2026 Fantasy Football Drafts for $200,000 + Q&A

Alrighty, fellas. What's going on? Uh, I am live from beautiful, uh, Chiliwack or Vancouver, British Columbia, where Underdog drafts are totally 100% legal. So, I can do some big board drafts from here, and that's what we're going to be doing today.

Uh, for those of you guys that are wondering, maybe have any uh, questions pending on the site: if you want to ask a question on the site, we'll definitely get to those throughout the stream or maybe towards the end of the stream or whatever. Um, I'll drop the link for that in the chat right now. If anybody wants to get a um, a team review or, you know, uh, just a trade question answered, I uh, will rip that in there.

But yeah, we're going to rip some big board drafts, have some fun here, talk, guess a little bit of redraft, but obviously the dynasty implication for those people uh, who are, you know, doing dynasty drafts, including us. We're doing a startup right now, mid-startup as we speak.

Yeah, we'll give you an update on how that's going. And uh, also too, I think doing big board drafts during dynasty season is actually a really underrated way of getting a sense of like how to build out good contenders, 'cause you can get like, for, we'll see some of these guys, like when I enter this, we'll see like, you know, how high Parker Washington's going and how high like guys that are not really highly thought of in the dynasty space, how highly thought of they are in the redraft space, and, you know, whether there's a disconnect there or whether maybe the redraft market's right about some things.

Uh, what's good, fellas? You know, appreciate you guys. Let's go, everybody early. We got Joe Joe Blackco and Jared just uh, talking, talking. So,

And also, I would, I'm in a much nicer city than Buffalo. Let's put it that way. Like, absolutely. I've never been in uh, British Columbia before, and it is freaking beautiful here, dude. Holy crap!

Always considering moving now.

Yeah. I mean, I understand why so many people that I went to high school with now live here. Like, I know a lot of people that move down here from high school because it is like, I feel like I'm in Switzerland when I'm driving around, man. The mountains are [__] beautiful. The air is clean. Like, yeah. Way nicer than doing drafts in Buffalo, let's just put it that way.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, Amherst, Buffalo is just basically Hamilton, Ontario.

Yeah, both cities are absolutely...

See, I like them. I like them. I like them.

Yeah, Danny, unfortunately, you just have low expectations. You got to go some places that are nicer. Um, all right.

Also, yeah, speaking of uh, college basketball, speaking of March Madness, so uh, Michigan just beat St. Louis, uh, what, 95-72. Second game is going to start today. And I was just mentioning to Cory right before we started streaming: we all did, you know, our March Madness brackets, all entered Ron's pool, and uh, sure enough, a team that I picked to make my Final Four ends up getting, you know, out, losing in the first round. And High Point takes down Wisconsin. Dude, that shocked me. Wisconsin was playing some very good basketball against some Big 10 teams. Obviously, the Big 10's been so competitive all year. So that, um, that hurt. That hurt, 'cause I think, you know, obviously Arkansas versus High Point is going to be a pretty good game now.

Sure. Yeah. I was going to do Ron's March Madness pool, but then I just forgot. I just don't care about college basketball. I wish I liked college basketball. I only have so much brain capacity to care about certain things, and uh, college basketball is unfortunately just not hitting the radar there.

But, um, all right, I'm going to enter this draft in about 5 seconds. We're going to do 20 seconds per pick. Again, uh, the big board is what we're doing over on Underdog. You guys know the drill. Uh, if you want to join the draft, you just go hit the enter as I'm hitting the enter. And uh, yeah, in about 5 seconds, I'll hit it. And if you want to get into this draft with us, we can uh, we can rock and roll.

And uh, Jared in the chat basically, "Oh, disabled developer mode in your browser." Okay. What the [__] does that?

Oh, wow.

Something on your computer is definitely not working.

Hold on. Maybe I'll enter it on my phone, and that'll...

Make you do that.

Um, sorry about that if you got into the draft and it did that for you. Okay, hold on. NFL big board. Okay, I'm entering in three, two, one. And we are six more to start.

Can you pull it? Can you pull it up here?

Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it lets me pull it up here.

Oh, perfect. Um, uh, drafts active. There we go.

There we go.

There we go. Um, coast is clear. Yeah. By the way, so Corey, St. Louis, their best player is somebody that's referred to, I'm not even joking you, as SLU Cinder. You know what that, like, obviously, like the pun is there?

Um, no.

So, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's real name is Lou Cinder. They called like some like chubby Spanish center, his name's Robbie Aila, they're calling him SLU All Cinder.

That's funny.

Also, Chase Brown just went off the board to Jason. I am on the clock in two picks.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll uh, we'll definitely give you, maybe towards the latter rounds of this big board draft, when it's getting less interesting, we can uh, pop over and show you guys the startup.

Um, yeah, I feel pretty good with how I've uh, made out in the startup so far. Ended up collecting a future 2027 first. I've still made five picks through the first five rounds, not sacrificed really anything. I kind of went with more like a one-year punt build, um, because I don't really have many of those left in my portfolio because I did so many of them in 2022, 2023, and 2024 that a lot of them are kind of in their contending windows now.

Yeah. I mean, I'm in a good spot, too. I have four players so far. I'm the next pick. So, I will have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. I have 11 picks in the top 10 rounds and also 327 first accumulated. Yeah, that's crazy.

Can't complain.

Um, yeah, and I should mention too, because we're waiting for two more people here. Um,

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the other nickname he has, by the way.

Crazy.

Epic.

So, right now you can uh, you can get $50 in bonus entries on your first five bucks with um, with our code FSE, of course. So, for those of you guys that are new to Underdog, you can see the uh, the link there in the chat. I kind of [__] up the uh, the thing here. Let me put this in the link one more time.

Um, yeah, they were throwing first at Danny, is, is indeed. Yeah, I don't know what the hell's going on there. One of the, one of the trades, I was like, Jordan, if you're in here, I was like, "Brother, that's uh..."

I mean, it was the, it was literally Puka Nacua. Like, it's going to be worth a pretty penny. Like, you trading the 112 is not the same as me trading the 107 when Puka is on the board. I mean, Puka and Amon-Ra are separated by less than a first-round pick of startup value, in my opinion.

I, I think that's a clean first.

Yeah, maybe not in '27. Maybe a '28 one or like the 2026 111.

I, I would say at least a mid-to-late one between them.

A mid-to, also a mid-to-late one. And not, not to mention, I mean, I traded down from what the, or I traded down to the 212, I believe.

Yeah. People just, I, as I've experienced this, I don't know what it is. You know how like once a year, once every three months, you'll get like a gift in your inbox and someone will just send you like a [__] dog [__] trade for them, and you're like, "Thank you very much." I feel like you get those, Danny, once a week.

I get them a couple times a year. You get them often, especially in startups.

See, that's cap, because a lot of the trades that I work on have been orchestrated.

I'm, I'm orchestrating just as much as you are.

I, I don't know, man. I, I'm in the [__] weeds.

I'm in the weeds, too. I got DMs going with pretty much everyone in this league.

Oh, the boy, the boys I've worked with know, they're like, "Hey, [__]..."

I'm, I'm always working on a deal. And not to mention, am I not only not work, or only working on a deal, I'm working on multiple at once, man. I'm working on like picks that aren't even on the clock yet. Like, I'm getting ahead of the curve.

Yeah.

Danny works hard. Danny puts in more work than Bush, can't confirm.

I mean, you, I wouldn't, I'm not going to sit here and say that you don't put in more work than I do, but I'm just sitting here saying that I'm putting in work myself as well. It's not like I'm just all chatting, "Someone send me a deal." I do do that, but I'm also following that up with looking at teams who could be interested in making a deal and whatnot.

Well, that was the first thing I said in our group chat. I'm like, "Everybody's just posting [__] on the block in the [__] Sleeper chat." And I'm like, "Hey boys, why don't you roll up the sleeves and start DMing people if you want to get a deal done?" Like, just putting up like, "Yeah, my, my, my 111's on the block." It's like, "Well, what exactly does that mean?" Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Danny is, Danny is just a demon. I'll give him that. He's an abs, he goes demon time in the DMs there.

I, I've hit people up of players I've already drafted in the startup. I'm like, "Hey, like I drafted Hampton. Obviously, this running back run has been happening. If you want to try to trade up, feel free to make me an offer." Mhm.

Like, like, you, you got to explore every creative avenue when it comes to trades because you never know what you're going to find.

Yeah. Looks like Jared's in the draft with us. He goes Bijan at 102 there.

That's fire.

I believe The Source is probably in the draft. I've recognized that as well.

Yeah, I've recognized The Source before.

Also, Surfer Kev, is that somebody that we know? I feel like I've recognized that one as well. If you're in the, if you're in the draft, obviously shout it out in the chat here because, um, yeah, this is, these are actually my first best ball drafts of the year. I have not done any big boards yet 'cause I haven't had an opportunity to in Ontario. And also too, um,

I'm about caught up with dynasty stuff and [__].

Uh, luckily I was able to get out for the Sabres-Habs game in late January. So I just entered a bunch of slow big boards. So I think I got about 40 teams right now.

Yeah, I did a lot more in January last year because I went to Montreal the last two years in a row in late January, but this year I wasn't able to. So...

Love's ADP's gone up a good bit since I was doing them. He was in the 20s.

Yeah. All right. So, we're on the board. Mainly running backs is the uh, highly valued assets here. I, I'm cool going uh, I'm cool going Jimmy Cooks here. I feel like he's the best projection.

Maybe London, turn if we can.

I uh, I'm very much open to just taking two running backs here. I think they are by far and away the better projections on the board than those receivers.

I would say London's pretty...

I would take Walker and Henry over those receivers, to be honest, let alone the other running backs that are on the board. Not over London. London was like a top three to four point.

Oh, hell yeah, dude. I would take Walker and Henry over London all day.

Nah, I'm good.

Henry may be a little bit more demand, for sure.

Walker's fair, but also keep in mind long-term contest. Walker was going in the mid to late 20s.

Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna...

Hampton.

Yeah, I'll go Hampton here. Roll with Hampton.

Hampton.

I, I definitely prefer Hampton over Han at this point, given the fact that Miami kind of looks like they're tanking. Trade away Jay Lum. You lose obviously Mike McDaniel. Like, I still like Bobby Slowik, don't get me wrong, and I do think the offensive line is underrated compared to kind of what the narrative was coming into the season, but at the same time, it's just like, are they going to be the 25th scoring offense?

I know it feels like it could be like a Breece Hall with better receiving chops kind of season for Han, which kind of hurts a little bit, but Han's obviously just a monster, so it wouldn't shock. Maybe he still finishes. I just think like the ceiling for Han this year is probably more like RB in fantasy just because...

RB4 is reasonable.

Yeah, I mean, I would, if he, if you think he has an RB4 ceiling, you should be taking him over Hampton, in my opinion, because he's much higher ceiling than Hampton would be, just given what we know about Hampton.

I think there's a legitimate chance that Hampton can have like the Jonathan Taylor where it's like, "Oh [__], this guy's..."

I would be shocked if he commands that kind of workload with Vidal and Mitchell in the backfield. The thing with Hampton that's so fascinating is, I mean, the Chargers are going to be a team that's probably going to win 10 to 12 games. I would probably put the projection at, um, I do think with a healthy offensive line, you sign Tyler Bottis, you're getting your two healthy tackles back. We'll see if they add maybe a potential another filler in the draft. On top of that, I mean, you look on the outside there. I think overall this offense is going to be built around Hampton using that play-action game.

I just think the other running backs are the major concern there because I do think that Vidal can play. I do think that Mitchell can play, and I think that McDaniel will sprinkle those guys in. And also too, like, between if you're talking purely Hampton versus Han, Han's um, range of outcomes is so much tighter because he's a multi-time RB. He's never not RB1 in his NFL career.

He's a very safe option. I just think if you're looking for like the explosive, "Oh [__], he hit 22 points per game because he cracked in 18 rushing touchdowns." Like, I think Han's got that in his wheelhouse.

I mean, Han hit a 20-point per game season on the already terrible Dolphins team last year.

But I'm also baking in, it's like, as much as I do like Bobby Slowick, maybe relative to the market, it still isn't Mike McDaniel, and I do think that the emphasis is going to be on them tanking on top of that. You know, if he has any type of...

Soft tissue injury, are they more likely to hold...

Shut down situation like Bowers and Wilson last year?

A little bit more risk there. Um, again, that's maybe something I guess the best community, the fantasy community in general, doesn't really like touch on. It's like...

They should, considering the Week 15 to 17 nature of these contests. Like, you should definitely factor in like if Garrett Wilson plays for the Rams last year, he's probably not shut down for the year.

He's playing, probably playing at the end of the year as well.

And that maybe makes you think last year, like the Adams versus Garrett Wilson tiebreaker at that 3-4 turn, probably lean Adams.

Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. Um, I'm on the board here. I got Hampton. I mean, I could go Manki. Wilson's interesting. I think McCon is pretty solid here.

I think I, I feel comfortable with whatever falls back. I think Wilson to me would be a slightly better option. I think that...

He, it just has, McConi went, but he does have a ton...

To me, Garrett, to me, just has a ton more ceiling than Manki because Garrett has the upside to finish with like a 32% target share on a season.

I don't know if ceiling is the right word for it because I think the receivers on the Chargers are much better than we gave them credit for going into the season. Um, Lad's rookie year was better than anything Garrett Wilson's done, realistically.

Yeah, I'm going to go...

Finish it.

Honestly, I, I know it's like a little weird taking three running backs this time. I just think Kyren's a much better projection than these guys.

I mean, like, I'm looking at wide receiver here. I, I don't, I don't see any wide receiver one likely. Like, could any of these guys have a wide receiver one season? Yes. But do I see likely wide receiver ones? No. I see a likely top 10 running back on the board. So, I'm taking him. I know you're, you're not on that board, but I would take Loveland.

Yeah.

I think Lovelin's probably about eight to 10 picks too cheap on the market.

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I could have gone Egbuka, too. If I went with a receiver, it probably would have been Egbuka or Burden. I just, um, I don't, I, I think Best, I'm not letting best ball convince me that wide receiver twos are worth going in the third round. I'm just not, 'cause they do it every year. They go, "Oh, like this guy is such a great projection, all this upside." It's like, yeah, but the actual likelihood that he hits set upside is not that high. So, I...

You're hyperfragiling this?

Yeah, I'm going to hyperfragile this because I'm not, I'm just not passing on RB1 projections for guys that are wide receiver twos. I, I'm not. Could Burden be much better than Kyren this year? Absolutely. I just think it's way more likely Kyren outscores him.

Yeah. I mean, I, I'm more worried about Corum than you are, for sure. But at the same time, I mean, like, you can't go wrong taking, even if it's a 60/40 committee, that of a top five offense.

Yeah.

Yeah. It was a 60/40. If you take the exact workload split between Kyren and Corum last year, when Corum started to become a bigger part of the offense, Kyren was still an RB1 in fantasy. It didn't matter.

Yeah. I mean, the scoring equity is going to carry over.

Yeah.

Um, and I'd argue that they might even be better this year on offense.

The thing that is beautiful if you do take running backs early in these rooms is now you get into a sweet spot of like Carnell Tate, Emeka Egbuka, obviously Odunze's listed up there as well. If you like a Christian Watson, I think he's got some upside. Like, there are some interesting range this year, even more than I felt last year. Like last year, like people were taking DJ Moore in the mid-fourth, whereas this honeypot of wide receivers to me, like Brian Thomas Jr., are pick 61 as well. Like, that just feels like nice value.

Yeah. And this, so this opinion could change for me a little bit throughout the offseason, but my opinion on the Bucs wide receivers as of now is that Godwin and Egbuka, I think, will be pretty tight in terms of their production. Maybe people are thinking, "Oh, Egbuka is going to have like 13,400 yards. Godwin's going to have 900 or something like that." I would argue that both of them are going to be about 1,100-yard wide receivers. So, I will take Godwin probably in the seventh. I don't even know where he goes, but it's probably really late versus where Egbuka is going to go, which is people are going to steam him to the, the extremely high, you know, top three to five upside that, that he, again, he could easily have that upside. I just, I didn't see enough evidence from Egbuka throughout the entire duration of the season that he's going to just lap the field in that receiving corps. I don't think he's that much better than everyone there. I think he's the best receiver upside-wise in that receiving corps, but I think a healthy Godwin is just as good and can be just as productive as him.

I, I guess I think you're, I mean, like, obviously this is inherent because, like, you are a Buccaneers fan as well, but I do think, like, you're, you're a little more optimistic on the overall passing offense there with Mike Evans gone. Like, I think there's a very real possibility it could crater. It could be a, it could be a league average passing offense very easily. It wouldn't shock me if that was the case.

He goes to pick before.

I, I would have taken BTJ over him anyways. So, I, I'll go with BTJ there.

I mean, hopefully Egbuka falls. That would be great to pair both.

Um, yeah, I don't really love these receivers that are on the board right now. I think Egbuka's best. I...

I don't mind Egbuka and Harrison, but after these two, I kind of feel like it falls off pretty dramatically. Hopefully this guy doesn't take Harrison as well because I'll take Marvin here if he doesn't.

What tight ends are available? I'm just actually curious what this range looks like.

Uh, yeah, Warren and Shannon. I just have no interest in taking a tight end.

Sakes. I mean, I could take the swing on Tyson here because he's the one I feel the most confident upside.

Um, I, I think I can get some safer wide receivers later. So, I'm going to go with Tyson here, and I'll, I'll backfill with some best ball filler type guys later. I think I'll get like a Godwin. Yeah, Godwin's down here. I'll get guys like that I can backfill with. I'll take the swing on Tyson.

That does suck that Egbuka and Tate both went.

Yeah, I would have definitely rather had Egbuka there, for sure. And even Harrison.

Yeah, for sure. Um, would...

Get hurt again. I mean, he very...

Built into his price.

Yeah, built into his price, for sure. Very easily could get injured again, but it's not like he's really expensive. I'm not, I'm not quite...

If you told, if you told me he plays 15 plus games, I would tell you pretty confidently he's going to have a thousand receiving yards.

Yeah. Again, I'm a little bit worried, more worried about the downside risk with him just because it's an older wide receiver dealing with those lower body injuries.

Yeah. But like, well, once you start having those lower body injuries, that [__] ages you. Especially when you were a player that was so explosive at his prime. Like, when Godwin looked at his full health, he's like, again, like the pathway is, of course, you know, the first five games of two years ago where he didn't really look like his explosive self, but he was just getting fed so many under.

I think schematically they are going to gear towards that scheme a little bit more. And also too, here's, here's kind of like my low, this would be like my 30th percentile outcome for the Godwin pick. I think like, not worst-case scenario, but close to a worst-case scenario, you're getting Deebo Samuel from last year. Yeah, solid eighth, ninth-round pick where Godwin's going.

Yeah, I mean, that's like kind of like my floor to med, the low-end median comp for him.

I would say that's probably more about like average percentile for me. Like, I don't think...

I'm not going to sit here and say he's got, you know, 1,400 yards in the bag still at this point in his career, but I, I do think he could have a 1,200-yard, seven-touchdown season...

With the right number of receptions and that kind of thing.

Listen to Wave. Get those likes up. Get those likes up.

Yeah, get those likes up. Appreciate that. Um, and again, I, I mentioned at the beginning of the stream, but if for whatever reason you guys want to get a question answered over on the site, um, we'll, we'll carve out some opportunity to do that, maybe in between drafts or after a draft or something, we'll uh, we'll pop over to the site and do that. And uh, yeah, we want to showcase what we're doing in our, our startup, our listener league startup. So far, Danny and I, between the two of us, have now, are now in possession of nearly half of the first round uh, in 2027. So, yeah, five out of the 12 picks, so we're decent.

I'm about to be back on the clock. I'll see maybe if I can get another one added there.

Well, I've been, I've been, some, some people in our league are, are clenching them out for sure, but some uh, some people are willing to give them up.

This is what happens. I mean, it's a $150 buy-in league, right? So people are, if, if you're in a, a market like ours where people are going to be prone to rebuild more so than the average dynasty league that most people probably play in, I don't think it's an outrageously bad strategy to sell your first-round pick knowing that you could, you know, bank a win pretty early on in the, in the, in the Dynasty League.

Well, like, for example, I have Hampton at 26, and like the beauty of having a guy like that is he's a staple at the position, and he's also young enough, but at the same time, like, he's a one-two turn pick in redraft. So now I'm at the point where it's like I can hold him for a year, or if somebody really looks at it and says, "Oh [__], I need to hammer my lineup and I'm willing to pay up for a guy like that." Like, I have the flexibility to hold that, or I have the flexibility to sell for a top dollar. So like, I'm feeling like really good because then that London 103, 104, hopefully, you know, in an ideal world...

I grab Herbo here.

What, a Lemon or Tate plus uh, Mendoza?

I grab Herbo here because I have Hampton already, so I'm kind of locking some of the production.

Manki would have been so nice. Yeah, Makoni would have been nice, for sure. I don't, I feel like I need to get receiver here because I'm going to get locked out if I don't.

I also like the year value. He should have...

The year. I don't mind. I mean, I should just probably take QJ here.

Probably if you're going to take someone.

Yeah. No, you know what? I, I think this is where he should be going. So, I'm going to take him.

Damn. Okay.

I, I think Godwin should be going definitely like, if I look at the board here, let me actually pull this up. Um, I would take Godwin over me, like, Metcalf would be a close conversation. I actually think Metcalf went too low, to be honest. I think that where like Harrison and Tyson, where they went about a half round later, is where Metcalf and Godwin would be for me.

Like, kind of right after where Jalen Hurts went there.

Yeah. Um, I think Metcalf and Godwin are pretty, pretty decent projections. Again, are you getting some world-beater wide receiver one upside player? I would say there's a pretty low chance at this point in both of their careers that you'd get that. But I think that the wide receiver two-ish type production you might get from Metcalf or Godwin in this area of the draft might rival the wide receiver two-ish type production that you would get from Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Luther Burden, and Rome Odunze, like some of the guys going way, way higher up the board, assuming they don't hit their, their, you know, 100th percentile kind of range of outcomes in that area.

I'm curious what the running back depth looks like right now because, I mean, like, I just...

We're pretty strong.

No, I know. I just want to see, I just want to see like uh, on the board, 'cause this is a weird spot on the board.

'Cause I'm like looking at like Tony, like, like uh, like how is Pollard ahead of JK Dobbins? I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, Jarian Price should be going ahead.

Coleman, Pollard as well, I think.

Yeah.

I didn't realize Gainwell was steamed up the board this much. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense because Bucky got steamed down to what? Round four.

Is that how far down he goes now?

I believe so. Check here. Check the board. I'm curious uh, where he went in this draft. Did he go Round four or late Round three?

Thought he went Round four.

Yeah, Round four. That's pretty crazy, man. I mean, I would say from a dynasty perspective, it's more reasonable to be worried about Bucky. Uh, I will take the discount in Round four of redraft leagues, though. I think that's, I think that's a good value in redraft specifically. But like, taking him as like a top eight dynasty running back to me is a different story because he's a day, he's a former Day Three guy. You don't know what the like long-term commitment of the team is.

You're less worried about...

Aspect. I actually don't mind the value on him right now.

You're less worried about Gainwell. You're more so worried, "Oh, next year if they're picking, you know..."

Top of the second round, and they sounds like there's some mental stuff that he's going through that could result in a shorter career as well. He's also an undersized guy, too. So, how much of a, if he's already dealing with injuries at this point early in his career, I, I just worry about Bucky Irving across the board as a dynasty asset. But on a one-year, "got to have it," you know, redraft league, I, I'll take him in Round four all day because I think even if him and Gainwell are splitting time, I think it's kind of like what I just said about Kyren and Corum. Obviously, not in as good of an offense, but it's Bucky will have the majority of all the good stuff, and he should very reasonably be live to finish as an RB1 still. It's just that Gainwell is going to factor in for sure, and that's going to cap his upside. It hurts his ceiling, obviously, but I do think that the, the low-end RB1 kind of pro, uh, projection would still be there for Bucky, even current state of the backfield.

Or really, I didn't realize Gadson went this high. Um, I...

I mean, you have Herbert and Hampton.

I do have Herbert and Hampton. Yeah, it's probably a good idea to take Gadson.

Also, Gadson with one of these...

Obviously, um, this on your account. I know on my account, Jalen Cooker at 117.4 is going to be something I'm going to be targeting pretty heavily.

Honestly, I actually don't view that as a screaming value. I, I think that's about fine for him. I, I think that's about where he should be going. I wouldn't, I don't, screaming value or anything like that.

Improving offense, clear opportunity at the number two role in terms of volume. Like, I'm, I'm going to be pretty pill.

Yeah, I'm uh, I'm going to, I'm going to go risky here, and I'm going to go for the Xavier Worthy bounceback. I think at this price tag, I'm, I'm willing to take the shot on a former first-round pick in the 10th round. I uh...

Oh, bro, you're going to be in the gulag for those first four weeks with Justin Fields out there.

Oh, probably. I don't think that, to be honest with you, I don't think that Mahomes is not going to be ready for Week One, based on everything that they've said so far.

Why would Fields sign there then?

Well, I mean, I guess he probably got no other options, an injury. Having a better backup quarterback in general is a good, good process move. And also Minshew is either no longer there or also suffer, he suffered a major injury himself. But yeah, they said it was not an ACL tear, or was it an ACL? I don't remember what they said about Minshew. But I think when you have a quarterback like Mahomes, and you have Super Bowl aspirations year-over-year because you're Kansas City and because you have Patrick Mahomes, it only makes sense to have one of the better 10 backups in the league, in my opinion, because you, you want to safeguard against Mahomes getting hurt, and you like, you know...

I get it from their perspective. Like, some of these teams would be a lot better suited to, to manage the storm. Like, had the Bengals had Jacoby Brissett under contract as their backup quarterback last year, then Burrow might have come back to a playoff-caliber team.

Maybe. Um, they still would have had a horrible defense. So that, I don't think scoring points with Flacco was really the issue. I just think they couldn't get stops.

No, no, of course. I'm just saying, like, in general, if I have a superstar franchise quarterback that allows me to be a Super Bowl contender in my conference year-over-year as a result, I would make sure that I have a very good backup quarterback at all times just because I want a guy that can win me games because it matters, right? Like, you're the, let's say you're the Bills, and next year Josh Allen misses five games, and that's the difference between you being the six seed and the one seed. That's a huge deal. So I would go, if I was Buffalo, and go bring in Kirk Cousins to make sure that I can get by if Josh Allen misses time.

By the way, I'm curious. What's Amari Cooper's ADP now? Because I might be able to flex.

151.7, bro. Every team that I got, I have 75% of him in the big boards. Every team I got him at, I pick 180 or later.

Yeah, that's an insane. I mean, there's definitely a lot of benefit to drafting some of these teams as late or as early as you can draft them in, in big boards. For sure.

Sadiq's actually still falling like pretty decent. Like, I thought maybe after his combine he would have been a little bit more expensive.

Yeah. Well, I made, um, to the point of getting these early, these early values or whatever. I made uh, a team last year that almost made the big board final that...

Or sorry, it was the biggest board. It was a $250 entry team. It was, I, I got out in Week 16. Um, my tight end core was uh, Jake Ferguson was my first tight end who I took like about where he ended up going in overall ADP by the summer. Um, but my other two tight ends were pick uh, pick 160, Colts and Loveland, and pick 213, Harold Fannin.

Oh my god, that's a score.

I know. Like, when you draft that early and you kind of know the class strength ahead of time like that, you can really get some nice values. I...

Rookies here. I'm going to grab Coleman here.

My biggest piece of advice, if you feel like you're waiting on quarterback two or three in these rooms, don't. They go so, I wouldn't be shocked if you got completely rinsed out at quarterback by your next pick in terms of the next like pass-full range.

Yeah, that's how [__] it is.

It does look pretty bleak if you do pass on them. I mean, if you don't take one here...

First-round capital projected and Cooper with first-round capital projected are intriguing, but I think I should probably take a quarterback. So...

I'm telling you right now, five or six names are going to be gone by your next pick if you don't.

I'll grab Cam.

Grab Cam Ward here. I don't have any stacking partners, but I'm sure he's got some late guys that I can stack with him.

Yeah, him and Mendoza are a nice little two options in that round because I feel like it's very easy to, you know, retool.

Are these 20-round drafts?

Yes.

Okay. All right. So, I might only do two then.

Yeah. So, I mean, it makes sense to you why the quarterbacks will go high. Like, Bryce Young, Mendoza, like all them, like, there's going to be legitimately by pick 150, like the best quarterbacks available, I remember, were like Michael Penix and stuff. Like, it was horrible. Yeah, that's not ideal.

Yeah, I know.

Um, every video I'm watching in the last few days dissuaded me from drafting him in top eight picks for Ja'Tavion Sanders.

What videos?

I mean, probably from other channels, I would imagine. Um, Browner, if you, I don't know if you have our draft guide, but our film review of Sanders will probably make you feel a lot better about him. Yeah.

If you're uh, just, and, and not that we're like, you know, glazing the [__] out of the guy. Like, he, he does have some deficiencies that make him a worse prospect than the two top guys last year uh, at tight end, but...

I think he's better than Warren. I have a higher grade.

I don't, just because I think that his translatability is, is slightly more of an uphill battle than Warren's, but I think he can be better than Warren, for sure, especially for fantasy because I think the movement ability of Sanders is significantly better than Warren, for sure.

Yeah. I, I just think about it like, who's going to be a bigger uh, hear about his productions, which is lacking apparently. Yeah. But you have to contextualize the, the overall production.

Yeah. The word like, so again, tight end...

People just look at box score.

Yeah. Tight end is a really challenging position to evaluate what analytical thresholds you need to meet because it's very different from wide receiver. Like, most people can go 30% target share. That's good for a wide receiver. Like, tight end is so much more of a differing position because college offenses use tight end so much differently than they would use a wide receiver. And also too, like raw box score scouting that some people are doing is like 670 and eight touchdowns or whatever. Um, Sanders had, I can't remember exactly what his, his stat line was.

That when you contextualize among NCAA tight ends, it was like top five in the country, but people go six, like, that's not that much production for a receiving prospect or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah. They're used differently. Like, I'm telling you right now, if Sanders got the utilization Stover had, oh my god, that guy would have been...

It's a very easy test to think about how much, like, to think about who actually is the better prospect when you go, "If they were in that guy's situation, how would they have done?"

Yeah.

Like, it's a really easy eye test and, and way to contextualize things. Like, I think about, um, like Jayden Daniels, obviously great quarterback prospect, became a great quarterback in the NFL, but Drake May and Caleb Williams would have put up bigger numbers with, with the LSU Tigers offense, in my opinion, because they were, they were better players. They, like, they elevated the play of the guys around them. And again, you can use more extreme examples than that. Like, how would, um...

You know, for example, Denzel Boston, who's kind of like the guy in Tyson's situation...

What's up?

How would Carnell Tate do in Jordan Tyson's situation this year? Well, yeah. What I was going to say was, how would Carnell Tate do in, in Denzel Boston's situation was what I was...

Yeah. Fair.

Where he's the number one receiver. He's the go-to guy. He gets all the red zone stuff because people talk [__] about Carnell Tate never having a thousand yards and stuff because they're just box score scouting. It goes both ways. Again, if you drop everyone, no one's arguing that Boston's better than Tate. I'm just saying like, to contextualize how much better he actually is, just think about how much more production he would have had.

So, a, um, I'm always taking Travis Hunter here. B. Um...

Yeah, I'll take Travis here, too. That's [__] crazy. Ah, you [__] [__].

Um, yeah, the Carnell Tate's a funny one 'cause people were like, "Oh, he gets all soft coverage because of Jeremiah Smith." It's like, or you're looking at a receiver who had over three yards per run next to [__] Julio Jones. Like, what?

I'll uh, I'll take Charbonnet because I actually kind of like, there's not like a ton of smoke that they're going to do something, like they could take a Jarian Price or whatever. Would still be a great best ball pick potentially in that format.

Like, they got Emanuel, Emanuel Wilson. They, they're surely like expecting him to at least be ready like soonish.

Yeah. Yeah.

Moderately decent about him, I would imagine. Um, I, I think I want to grab a tight end here potentially. Do I want to grab a third quarterback?

I think the next range is better.

I mean, I have Garrett. I could take Geno here.

Also, what did I say about quarterback? The next best...

[__] did it get wiped out? I, I can't take Geno ahead of ADP. That's [__] jail. Maybe, maybe a receiver here, tight end next, or what are you thinking? 'Cause I, I don't know a difference between these.

Yeah, I don't like these tight ends really. I'll, I'll take Judy. I think Judy's fine here.

Sure. Yeah.

I think he's kind of going under the radar just a little bit. Like, he's also one of these, every second year he has a surprisingly good season. So...

Him and Ridley are just like the guys that people like are over with. Yeah, I feel kind of the same a little bit about Pittman to some degree, too, where it's like every, every time people doubt him, he actually has like a nice season where he returns on uh, value there.

Where was Stover going? I'm curious.

Holy [__]! I didn't realize he was on the board.

Yeah, I got so many shares of him when he was legitimately going in like the 210, 220 range.

Yeah, I mean, when he comes back around, I'll definitely take a swing on him if he's there. Um, but yeah, I mean, if you, if you look at these, if you look at these boards and you go, "Holy crap, how is that guy falling? How's this guy falling?" This turn, this tournament is a lot more beatable than Best Mania. Like, it, it really is like it, I know you don't really want to draft teams, you know, Underdog draft teams and, and fantasy football draft teams this time of year. But it truly, like, if your sole goal is like taking one of these things down or like being a profitable best ball player, like these tournaments are much more beatable than, than Best Ball Mania. So much data going on during the summer. Everybody's laser focused. The news gets reacted to so fast. People are so behind on these prospects and have no effing idea where they're going to go and how good of prospects they actually are. Like, I guarantee, and this happens every year, how much revisionist history in the six years that we've been doing this have we experienced? Like, remember when Ja'Marr came out and people were like, "He can't catch and he has no good hands." And then suddenly it was sacrilegious two years later to compare a prospect to Ja'Marr Chase. I'm like, "You guys remember talking [__] about him two years ago, right?" Same with Drake London. People were pretending Drake London was like the GOAT when I compared Teteroa McMillan to him last year. And people are like, you know, he's nowhere near as good as Drake London. I'm like, "Didn't you comment on our YouTube videos two years ago saying that Drake London can't separate?"

Yeah. People are all like that. And Jared hopped right on it. At least he gave the warning.

in here. Yeah. Like if Stoers, if Stoers and Sadi hit, are you ready for people to go, "Dude, he was Vernon Davis the whole time." Like, no. Yeah. People are. They're going to do it. It's just how people like, again, it's always it's feeling good about this, feeling good about some of these. And like, like, again, we're not going to get these ADPs again. That was like two months ago when a lot of these were going on. But we're feeling very good about just like stacking up on the value. Like Jonah Coleman at the time was like 11th or 12th round. He hasn't really gone up much. But everybody else like Tate and [ __ ] Cooper and Sadique and Stowers down here and Mendoza, like we're feeling feeling nice. Yeah, I will share back your screen. Yeah. Um, got got my fix. Yeah. Oh, don't worry, Gabriel. We're we're well aware of Eli Stoers and his Danny is actually a kind of a big hater on Eli Stoers based on the great. He's literally my tight end three, by the way. Having him not tight end two is being a massive hater on him. If I knew Elijah Serat was on the board, I probably would have taken him over Ridley. I don't think it's being a massive hater. Like, you you ask some conglomerates and they have them like, "Oh, he's not a real tight end, so therefore he is like tight end six or seven for me." Like, I see a lot more Stoers's tight end one than I see of what you're talking about. Yeah, sure. From certain like analytics guys, yeah, you're going to see Stoers tight end one because Stoers has a very good production profile. But like, in terms of the tape guys, there's nobody that has Stoers even two. I feel like. Yeah. Even three for that matter. I have three. I see the majority of tape guys that have him too still. I don't. You got to point them out to me. Regardless though, I mean, he's my three. Um, that's just because I really like Maxclar. Like, I think he could be getting Sam Leaport a 2.0. I think I'm going to grab Gino here. Um, yeah, that's not bad. I He kind of. I kind of need a tight end, but I guess I grab Taylor as well. Or David and Jojoku, bro. David is gonna sign somewhere. I think I might be done. Experience. There's no way you can take Mason Taylor over David and. Well, considering I already have Garrett Wilson and Gino Smith, I'm already correlated to this offense. Okay, fair enough. And I just I don't see. The guy is going to get back to, you know, recent David and Jooku production. I don't know, man. I think David and Jooku might be at that point in his career where his body is just kind of betraying him a little bit. I mean, he got injured one year and two years ago he was a top. He's been injured like four of the last five years, actually. Two years ago, he's a top five tight end in points per game. He missed five. He's also 29. He's also 29 years old. No, I I'm not saying he's old. I'm saying his body is starting to. Now, I don't know. I mean, part of it cuz he's older, but I'm not I'm not like I The fact that David Injoku isn't signed also speaks a lot of what NFL teams think of him. And tight end is one of those positions where you kind of need to get the reps, the belief of the team, the snaps, and all that kind of stuff. I think wherever he goes now, he's going to be like somewhat part of a tight end by committee rotation type of situation. Um, I think it's fine at this point in the draft to take him. I just I actually like I think Mason Taylor looked pretty decent when he had opportunities last year, but the Jets were so unbelievably unevaluatable because the team was so bad that we can't even take anything away from them. And Gino's not good. Um, but Gino plus whatever maybe rookie that they bring in. I think if Taylor is a better player and takes a step, he's only like 22 years old still. Um, I just think is that better player? I I don't know. I If you told me like there's no way of really measuring this for for the two of us, but like just pure tape subjective opinion, who looks like the better tight end next year? I would pick Mason Taylor. I would take Andoku. Um, I just think that Mason Mason looked pretty decent as a rookie and he was extremely raw. He's solid. I don't mind him. He's younger than most of the tight ends in this class. Only Sadik is that's far more pro and jooku. I think when he's fully healthy, he's a top 10 tight end in the league. Yeah, I just don't I think at one point he played that way in flashes. I don't think that's a he was really never actually a top five tight end in the league. I thought there was a time when he was playing like that at uh briefly, but I don't know. Well, I mean, we'll see what ends up happening with him. I hope he signs soon enough so we can actually talk about the signing and how he projects. Yeah, you didn't get enough of uh you had bags and bags of him last year, didn't you? Oh, yeah. And then he got hurt. Yeah, I was um as Thankfully, I was not I started out like you like in June, May or whatever. I was drafting a ton of David and Jooku and then I was like I don't actually love the ADP now and I really cooled off of him and started drafting more Fannon thankfully. Yeah, I feel you. Reraft David and Jooku Dynasty Mason Taylor. Yeah, again I obviously that's a very reasonable opinion. I actually just think he's a much I think Mason Taylor is one of the better maybe buy lows right now in dynasty if that's how people are viewing him especially on like one-year punt type of teams because he's he's so young man and I think the the Jets I mean I mean you said the how people are viewing him I think this is the reasonable take though unless people think it's David and Jooku for both which would be unreasonable. I mean I could still get David and Jooku here for what it's worth. No I know I know I'm just saying like you said if this is the take like is like uh David Injoku at this point in his career reddraft. I take him over Mason Taylor. I think that that's probably an opinion that everyone would share most likely. I would take Mason Taylor straight up. Yeah, it could be injoku. Um okay, we got Vidal, Brian Robinson. Unicorn. I've addressed it here a couple times, but I've had I had some issues last year I had to take care of, but I'm going to be back this year. Oh, yeah. No, he's he's he's back for the flock league. And I know we've gotten asked it a million times, but the uh the Denny's punishment that Danny has to do. Oh, I'll take Zachariah Branch here. Oh, actually, [ __ ] Uh, I'll probably get you lane with my next pick, actually. So, I'll take Zachariah Branch now. Appreciate it, Unicorn. Yeah, we'll um we'll we'll handle the uh or you'll handle the the punishment at Denny's in Austin when we go there in mid August to do next year's draft. Um, I also had an idea, Danny. Let me know what you think of this. I don't know if Austin has a racetrack anywhere, but I thought maybe an idea that could be fun for the draft order is we all go in not knowing odds and pick a random horse. Oo, okay. We could do that, too. Yeah, I'm down. I thought you meant like literally like when you said racetrack, I thought you meant like we could go-kart. Oh, we could do a go-kart race or something. That would be fun, too. Actually, I didn't actually even think of that. My thought was we go like, you know, bet on a horse or something. So, you want to know the I'll say right off the bat the trick about go-karting. You know what the trick is, right? What? Take the turns wide so that way you can cut across them. People think you want to take the turns narrow. You want to take them wide so that way you don't have as much carryover on your drift. Yeah. A car a go-kart race for the draft order would be really content. I think for sure because that's that's the like obviously for for our purposes we need to think of what'll make the best video as well. That bro [ __ ] And then it's like no bumping but like we're bumping slightly and stuff you know. F1 nowhere. Jeff Axar. I used to watch F1 when I was a kid. Big big F. Let me guess. Your favorite F1 racer is the most successful of all time. Big Ferrari guy. Yeah. This guy's Jeff Gordon or whatever of F1. No. No. It was around the time when uh when Ferrari had Alonzo and and Massa and all those guys. Like that was the OG days. I haven't watched it in a while though. But like that was like early 2010. This would be in San Antonio. Uh, but they can hit the Andredy go-karts there. Sweet. Okay. Beautiful. Yeah, we're we're obviously going to be farming out some ideas too. Like what do you guys want to see? And that kind of thing. We'll definitely uh we'll definitely do that. I I also told Mason, too. I'm like, we should just honestly be recording a lot of what we do because I think it would just be fun for you guys to watch us just hanging out as well. Like like even if the go-kart race is not for the draft order, if we went and just did that, it would be pretty fun. Yeah, that'd be elite. It'd be pretty fun to watch at least. I I would enjoy watching it back even as part a participant in it. So, hey, last year I wish we could have included some of the comedy show in the [ __ ] draft log, you know. Yeah. No, we'll get killed if we bring a camera into the mother ship, though. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That That was a good time though. Holy crap. Yeah, I know. That was a lot of fun. I just think we we had so many good like debates, sit down and have convers like why don't we have cameras rolling more often? You know what I Maybe it's all just slop like the the footage that comes out of it. But if there's two to three full videos that people like our slop though, bro, you don't think half of the [ __ ] that we record is, you know, like [ __ ] when I'm talking about how I have CTE and [ __ ] Like that's pretty. That's what I'm saying. Like when we're like if we're just if we just had a camera rolling while Mason's frying up ground beef and we're talking about, you know, Courtland Sutton being worse than Devonte Smith this year for fantasy. like me and Nathan had a [ __ ] heated debate about like I don't know to me that that would be kind of interesting behind the scenes for some people to watch. Okay. Um this board kind of blows chunks. What do we got at wide receiver here? Honestly, I'll take uh I'll take Chris Bell at this point in the draft. I think that's a good dart throw. 12man geogesser draft orders based on who finishes the best to low to worst. Geogesser would be fun. I get hilarious. Whether it's for the draft order or not, might just make for good content anyways. Oh, yeah. I I've been I'm so bad at Geogesser, but I've been trying to play it recently. Like, I'll watch a Geogesser video of somebody, they'll be like, "Yeah, these are Austrian horses right here." Or like, "These are Australian." Some people are dialed the [ __ ] in, dude. Some people are dialed. I I try to find signs and see, oh, what what language is that in? Oh, Spanish. Okay. It's either South America, Mexico, or [ __ ] Spain. Yeah, those are all areas of the world that are very far apart. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm gonna grab Antonio Williams. I like I like me some Antonio. I saw [ __ ] DeAndre Hopkins was like, you know, I like that Antonio Williams from Clemson. Like, what school did you go to, bro? Didn't he like complain? He's like, uh, they they made me like a red zone merchant last year or something. I want to play a real receiver role or something. Like he like like said that or something like that. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, is this y'all d last draft of the day? No, I'm going to do another one after this. Um, another one. Yeah, I'll do one more. Um, y'all some fantasy streamers. Is that what we are? Are we streamers? Are we officially streamers? What is that [ __ ] stupid site that all these um idiot Manosphere guys are on? Uh, kick. Yeah. Yeah, that site. Do we need to be on kick? Bro, that that that site I already know just everybody's keyboard who's in there stinks. They haven't washed it in years. Come on. Haven't brushed their teeth that day. Kick's not bad. Rumble's bad. Crap. Just a cesspool. Dude, Kick's not bad. Rumble's bad, though. [ __ ] um Do you know you know Los Pooyos? The Chickens? No. Okay. So, you don't know the streamer. So, he he's from Jersey. Like, like he literally like looks like me. Like he streams with his dad. They both like look like variations of Mexican all the time. So, that Well, like you know what I mean? Like the like the Jersey Italian like thicker guys, right? They're just [ __ ] jokes. And um, now every time I go on TikTok, there's just an edit of him reading his chat and they're just like wishing him the most creative sounding death threats you've ever seen. They're like, "If you come to here, you'll be skinned alive. You're lucky I didn't shoot you last night in the mall." Like, it was just some crazy [ __ ] I I already know that the slop that gets spewed on the live chats of kick streams are strictly so that people can get up votes on the comments like or whatever like if they have that. It'd be like come to San Antonio and you will be beheaded like some random absolute death pool just some brutal [ __ ] It's so [ __ ] jokes though because now like people will just like post them as Tik Toks and it'll just be random edits of like the craziest text to speech chats he's read. Yeah, that's crazy. Um, quick update on the uh draft that we're in are here. Let us let me move us out of the way for a second. Um, so quick update on the draft that we're in right now. You guys can see the board here. Uh, kickers were the rookie picks. So you see where Jeremiah went off the board. He goes 110, which was pretty high. Uh, what are we up to? 104 off the board here. 102 goes at 309, which I thought was pretty good value for the 102 to go off at the 309. Um, I think where you got the 13 and the 14 is about fair, but yeah, the 102 I thought would have been off the board closer to the 23 turn. Like I I definitely was debating it around where I took Mahomes, but I was like I cannot pass on Patrick Mahomes for the 102. I think I would have taken the 102 over a lot of the guys that went after me, though. So definitely good value for YWL. I think your 102 is my 103. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I but in general like you know the 102 asset is going to be the best landing spot and that kind of thing of those of those options. It could change for me post ddraft just like it could change for you but that this is what I'm looking at so far through the three rounds or the five rounds. Sorry. I ended up trading back from 112 to 310. Huh? I didn't even realize I'm on the clock. Oh, yeah. Danny's on the clock. I traded back from 112 to 312 and then I traded back again with Arthur from 312 and then he ended up giving me a bunch of like four like a late two late fours or whatever for like my sixth or something. So I've actually made five picks through five rounds just like you know I should if I was sitting in my own draft slots but I also banked a 2027 first on top of it. Um, and I got, you know, a couple picks in the honeypot of round four, which to me getting Jordan Love at 409 was great because on the board where uh I was going to take at 312, I I almost just took Jordan Love there. So, the fact that I still got him at 409, I felt pretty good about it. My receiver core is quite risky with Neighbors and Burden and Thomas and Harrison and stuff, but I like with the extra first round pick, so I thought that kind of fit the build quite well. Dude, I thought it was a guarantee I was going to get burdened at this pick that's on the clock right now. So, I put the I put the pick on the block. I'm going to probably send some offers when we're done stream or I mean, if I check I have a time to check my phone, I'll probably send some offers out. But, um, that one hurt more than likely. If I'm not able to trade out, I'm probably leaning the 105. It is a premium and I mean that could be Tyson or Sadi kind of keep flexible. I wouldn't mind doing that. Um, outside of that though, there are still a couple players that I wouldn't mind. Um, but yeah, ideally I can move down from this 504. Um, I'm going to try my best to see if I can accumulate another 2027 first round pick because I have four of them right now. But, uh, so far or three of them. I would say what aies. My apologies. I I I would try to get my fourth. I have three right now. My apologies. But if you do, then we would I would like to get three so that you and I collectively own half the first round and it's not you having four first round picks. But it's like an arms race right now. I would say no one's really like like this isn't a real like the fact that you have three ones kind of pisses me off because you still have made you're still about to make your fifth selection. Like how is that even possible? Oh, I have 11 picks in the top 10 rounds I believe too. Okay, so we're feeling good. But I mean, hell [ __ ] I didn't make a single for Trump. You you'd be like, "Oh, Danny sold two first round picks or what or has two first round picks. How the hell did he still make two picks in round two and two picks in round three?" Like you'd think, oh, you sold a bunch of pick, like you selling out for 27 first, you probably didn't make a pick for like three rounds. Yeah, I mean, hey, we're doing what we can do. Uh, Drake London, I was initially picking at the 211, but I just really wanted to target 24 year old receiver, 20 plus point per game upside. I just think it fit the build I wanted to accomplish. Pair that with Amaran Hampton. Same type of idea, one two turn type of valuation we just saw on the big board. And then there 103 104. Whether that's a combination of Tate plus Mendoza or Lemon plus Mendoza or maybe Mendoza goes at the 102 and I get those two wide receivers. I really wanted to make sure I left with that 104 asset. Initially when I dealt up cuz I had the 311 and I had the 40 or I had the 407. I traded up with Ronaldo from the 407 to the 401 with the idea to take the 104. Unfortunately, Corey, who I thought was going to take James Cook at the 312, trades down with Arthur. Arthur scoops in right ahead, snipes that 104. And I'm like, "Okay, well, [ __ ] I like James Cook. I think he's a value on the board, but he doesn't fit my team build." So then, right off the bat, I went, "Hey, Arthur, listen. You have two quarterbacks. Do you really need Mendoza?" And he said, "Well, I can just play the value game. Obviously, the 104, it's a flexible asset." And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, that's all smart and all, but at the same time, what if I suggested this? You already have my 20272. me having James Cook on my team versus me having the 104. If you make this deal with an extra little bit of gravy, the gravy we agreed to was a 202073. You're getting James Cook off my team and you're getting the rookie 104 aka Mendoza on it. So inherently you're making the deal, getting value for the pick, but you're also increasing the value of the second I already gave you." Yeah, this [ __ ] this is how he gets all these deals done. Um, this is the most Danny looking draft. Yeah. No, it is a Danny looking draft. But yeah, I mean, some guys are going real competitive here. Shades got a pretty nice looking team. Uh, YWL's going a little younger. Blue Wolf's got some competitive assets here. Who was the one person? I think it was Brian Harris has a couple good competitive assets. Yeah, Bejon JT and those guys. So yeah, it's going to be an interesting draft. Um, let's see how it goes. Uh, yeah, it is best. So it's Dynasty Superflex best baseball, full PPR, half tight end premium, 0.25 25 first down bonuses to running backs, big play bonuses um for 40 plus receiving plays and rushing plays and touchdowns. And then uh the it was a third round reversal as well as the only other major thing there. But uh, yeah, let's pivot back into another big board here. And um, yeah, I will put the 504 on the block for anybody in the league that wants to make an offer. Um, obviously I would get more proactive, but we're in the middle of streaming. I will handle any more proactivity if I need to after. Yeah, [ __ ] All right, I'm entering another draft here. I think I might have to do it on my phone again. Um, I'm going to do it on my phone again just to be safe. Um, but yeah, in about five seconds I will enter another big board. So, if you guys want to join the big board with us again, uh, it's just a $10 entry. Go to the underdog fantasy main lobby and hit enter in about 5 seconds and you should be in on the 20 seconds per pick. Um, so I'm hitting enter in five, four, three, two, one, and we are three more to start. If anyone wants to join that draft, we will get it going in a second here and see what else we can roll with. You know, I just took in by the way, first team had James Cook, and James Cook is the thumbnail. There you go. It did. Shout out. It's getting in the game. Yeah. Uh Oh, yeah. Then accumulating picks is elite. Yeah, especially um especially volume of picks. It's also like a three wide receiver, three flex, too. So, it's a what is that? A start 11. Um, so it's it's a pretty deep starting lineup. So, in best ball, definitely ideal to have a lot of good um good assets. That's why I also like it hasn't happened yet. I kind of pre I I kind of This is an underrated and not always talked about thing in Dynasty. Um, loading up on a position to the point that you start the positional scarcity. Oh, for sure. I mean, love is my second quarterback even though generally I would say strategically I don't mind waiting on second quarterback a little bit more this year but because I took Jordan Love who was a very clear tier break at quarterback for me and then I also took five wide receivers in the first round or first five rounds I think that in the next round or two there's going to start to be a little bit of scarcity at both quarterback and wide receiver. That was the old school theory in 2020 of why we would hoard quarterbacks because we would start the run, people would panic and take the let's just say in a 2026 relative room, they would take the Sam Darnolds in round three because they panicked. Yeah, I got the influencer 101. Let's go. Um, let's go. I mean, I uh I I agree though. But like, you're right. It was talked about plenty with the quarterback position, so that's nothing new. But I do think the wide receiver position is a kind of underrated thing because if Running back's the one I noticed most this year. Like like we just saw Chase Brown off the board. I wouldn't be shocked if we see like Henderson, Bucky, McCaffrey, Bree Hall, all those guys go within like the next eight or nine picks. Yeah. No, they definitely could. I I'm actually about Henderson here. Yeah. I I'm just intrigued by the We H I think this might be crazy, but I think Gibbs is actually my 101 right now over Bjon. Yeah, man. I just without Montgomery like [ __ ] without Alier. Yeah, I know. It's I It's Tua and my It's your guy, bro. Like, that's I know. It's my guy. They're They're both absolutely sick running backs. It's like choosing your favorite child. I know. Some parents actually have an answer for that, though. What? I'm joking. I said, "Some parents actually have the answer for that." Well, I have an answer for it. I don't want to have [ __ ] two shitty left-handed quarterbacks throwing my running back the ball. Um, but uh, yeah. No, that I'm excit I'm excited to see how this draft materializes because again, I don't think people realize that in a three wide receiver, three flex, full PPR best baseball format. Um, wide receivers who put up spike, it's also big play bonuses and stuff. If you can stack up on guys like that, you uh you actually do kind of set yourself apart as far as like the interchangeability of spikes in your lineup. Um, and I think it's pretty easy to fill in like the tight end and running back positions sometimes. Sorry. Like best baseball's so easy to me to fill out running back production. Dude, I'm I'm so dumb. I thought that said that Amra went 104 for a second. That's why I went like that. But that 106. Okay, that makes more sense. Jefferson 107 though is outrageous. Yeah, that is pretty insane. Is this This must people are assuming he's going to be as good as Darnold. Lamb on the board. You can't do that. I I wouldn't do it, but I do I would the under the the argument I could understand if somebody got there was uh Kyler is going to be bring the Vikings offense much more close to what it was with Sam Darnold and um Jefferson is clearly the number one. Hawinson and Addison are probably even less of risks for targets than they were last year. Probably I would argue the difference in offensive value is just so much to pass. Even with that being if you're pro Vikings, I'm saying you would have to be to view the Vikings and Cowboys as like like if the Cowboys are like a a top 10 offense in their mind, the Vikings could be like a top 12 to 15 offense in their mind and at that point it's a much bigger gap offensive caliber. To me there's just a much bigger gap. Yeah, I know. But you're also a Cowboys fan. So people who are not Cowboys or Vikings fans who have that opinion, I think Yeah, I I'm I'm kind of that opinion. I think that the Cowboys are probably like the eighth to 10th best offense in the league and I think the Vikings could be a top 15 offense. Yeah, they've just been, you know, a top five to seven unit for I think they're more eight to 10, but that's fine. Top five to seven with Dak pretty much. Um, Yeah, they very well could be. Yeah. Um, see what got H to do what he did last year. Yeah, that's a good point actually. He did. Yeah, he did. I um, I mean McDaniel also like really Yeah, Bjan's just such a monster. It probably won't matter ultimately. Bro, Stfansky with Noel Alzier. I know. My only thought process is we've seen the 18 plus touchdown upside with Gibbs. We haven't seen that level of touchdown upside with Bjan yet easily without Algier, but it's also still not going to be as good of a team, not going to be as good of an offense. What if you gave Nick Chub 85 plus projectable targets? Yeah, that's pretty much where Bejan's at. Like, right. Like, I also like to be honest I think both of these two rece these two running backs that are going one special live to go 100 targets plus. Do do you want [ __ ] more pass catching Nick Chub or do you want [ __ ] This is the 2020 Chimera season or the 2020 Dvin Cook season? That's like what you're choosing to smash picks. They're both clearly the 101 and 102. And if you ask me right now what's the best spot to pick from in reddraft? The answer is 101 or 102 in my opinion. I think that both running backs are far and away the best players in fantasy. Yeah. No, I don't I don't think that's especially consider all those guys JSN sick players. Nico from 101 or one or two. Especially when you could pick one of them at the 101 and then still get like a pickins or a Collins in round two. Mhm. I would prefer I think 102 is the best pick because then you don't have to make the decision between the two of them and you have the slightly better two and you just take two of the three here that fall with Barkley pickings and Collins, right? Holy crap. The easiest thing I've ever seen here. Holy [ __ ] Two of these three [ __ ] players. Give me them. Give me Barkley. I want him. Soup. You already have a running back. [ __ ] Okay. I mean, this is easy double top now. Yeah. Collins definitely an easy one for me over Pickins. I would prefer Collins personally. I think Pickins is the clear next though. Yeah, I think I like I don't hate the idea of taking like a Jacobs or something here. I just probably like because I feel like Jacobs ultimately is just such a safe rejection year-over-year, but I'll take Pickkins over over Jacobs. I What's the next turn? I'm curious. Yeah, we're right here. Ultimately, I can admit when I was wrong. Um, Pickkins is elite. Higgins is exactly where Higgins was last year, which is what like you said he could be T. Higgins 2.0 and he actually he absolutely was T. Higgins 2.0. So, um, yeah, he's basically right where T. Higgins off of good seasons would go, which is about that two three turn area. Yeah, makes sense. Um, I'm curious. So, what are the projectable running backs at that 3, four turn or four, four, five turn, sorry. Five turn. Um, I don't think Kairen and Bucky get there. I mean, maybe Javvante would slide. I think it's more like Trevian Henderson Judkins Swift. Yeah, not excellent options, but I don't really want to get locked out to only having one running back because Hero RB has actually been very very bad strategy in in in uh baseball the last two years. Yeah. like success rate wise, it's actually pretty challenging to to pull off zero and hero RBs at this point in time because it's no longer um the case where round 8 to 10 is loaded with a bunch of ambiguous backfields. Those ambiguous backfields are going back into the dead zone, I've noticed. And also the um the value I think the the part of the biggest reason why running backs are back is because all running backs that would have been second round picks before are third and fourth round picks now. And yeah, you can you can start a two by two running back wide receiver or get even three straight running backs at the beginning of your draft and the projections you're getting are just so so much better than what you were usually getting before. Um, so I I'm kind of of the opinion that like this year we might to see we might start to see the round six to eight portion become like the new dead zone and you want to kind of get a running back probably too before the round five area. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. After Javvante, like I feel like it pretty much melds in for me. Yeah. But like in round four. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. It's like you kind of want to get your running backs in the first two rounds or two to four rounds. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to say though is like once you get to the next range, it feels like a lot more of the projection range. Like I feel like Javvante like you know exactly what you're going to get. Henderson, Scataboo, Judkins, they're a lot more projection based. Yeah. Which is why I'm like I don't really love the dead zone. this year to be honest. Yeah. Like I would honestly even say as much as I like the talent of Henderson, like he's probably the start of it because Javvante you feel cozier. Like you're getting 250 touches, good offense. Like done deal. Henderson, Judkins, Scaboo all have their wrist levels. Swift, you don't near feel nearly as cozy as you do with a guy like Javante. Two, it's like yeah, the workload, the projection is so good, but he still has to prove it to a certain degree because we haven't seen him handle that workload. Like to me, this is the range of running back. you start to build some question marks and we'll we'll not even get into like the Montgomery Warren. I think Montgomery is actually not a bad pick there to be honest. I don't think that's really bad value. Not at the shares of him there. Not the 45. Probably like the seven. No, 65 where he's going. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's reasonable there. Um, um, might probably go Jameson Williams here if he falls. Yeah, you stack equity. I I don't think Wadd's uh bad either. I think um kind of like Adam's here too. Yeah, I mean Tate would always be a guy that I like here, especially given the range. I I don't think I could reasonably take Tate over Adams. That's fair. I mean, Wadd would also be kind of like I think I'd probably prefer Wadd as well. Yeah. No, I think that's reasonable. And I don't I don't hate Terry this year. I think he's actually kind of priced about where he should be priced. I don't I don't like normally we have very strong opinion about Terry McCor. He's usually really overpriced, but I actually do think this is about the range he should be going. such a strong force stack at wide receiver from a baseball perspective. Like pick J and Adams, like you're getting lots of touchdown and big play equity out of those four guys for sure. So now you probably like venture towards obviously another running back if you can. I I think I do need to get one with one of my next picks. I'm just hoping that like somebody kind of slips to me. Like I don't want to be looking at like Jaylen Warren as the best. That would be really bad if that happens. Ton would probably be nice, but he's probably not going to make it 20 picks from now. You're probably looking at more so like the D manong guy range which is kind of gross. Alier is not out not awful there. I mean you don't have to take Alier the next pick. He's actually a little buried like probably looking Warren Stevenson Hubard top of the board. I doubt Montgomery would make it but like he would be like a wild card. That is hilarious bro. What's up? Um Joe Hula is getting like roasted right now on Twitter. Like no offense to Joe Hulka. I just think it's really funny. EMTT Johnson's three cone, yeah, was the only three cone that a running back ran at the combine. And, uh, was the only three cone that a running back ran at the combine. And, uh, in one of his threads, Joe Hula was like he was number one in shuttle and three cone at the combine. And his his is objectively bad three cone. Ryan Heath quote tweeted he was like it was the eighth percentile three cone and weight adjusted. It's like horrendous. Like I it might be one of the worst three codes I've ever seen. Yeah. Like we can't just be saying he's number one at the combine in three code and short shuttle, dude. Like I don't know. Maybe I like I don't want to People are accusing him of something in the comments. You guys can probably guess what. I'm not going to say it. But um, yeah, I mean I don't think you could be claiming that. Yeah. No, that's just completely like you can't just putting that out as like a positive for Johnson that he like 7.3 cone is horrifically bad for a 200lb running back. Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me when I want a sample bias. Yeah, like I said, there's there's something there's something being accused of him in the comments that accurate to be honest. Bro, that's like saying uh um out of all rookies in week 18 last year, this rookie is the best. Therefore, he he's on the right track or some [ __ ] No, what what it is is like taking um uh Oh, I got the answer. Taking like Kyle Williams receiving yards in the playoffs or something or like be like, "Yeah, he's the best most receiving yards of all the receivers in the rookie receivers in the playoffs. He plays 24 games." No, there there was a one guy a few years ago, 2021. He was like number one at his position in points per game and he played one game. Yeah, Travis Fulgum effect. Yeah, like it was a running back. I remember that. Was it um uh [ __ ] I know exactly who you're talking about. He was a Bills running back, right? Yes. Yeah. Antonio Williams on the Antonio Williams. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Antonio Williams is the running back three in fantasy in 2020. Did you know that? Only Pat McAffrey and Dvin Cook. What a great season for Antonio Williams. That would be an electric BDG trivia question, by the way. points per game leaders. No, no minimum games. Yeah. Career points per game leaders like like rank them in the list. Oh man, I don't know. He goes, "Okay, these running backs suck dick." I might just have to trade Drake, man. What about Warren? What about Warren? Can I get you? I think Drake with one of these. Um, can I get you on Jaylen Mour? You cannot honestly. Fair enough. I don't I just don't get excited about him. I'm just going to take Tyson to be honest. I think he's just the best player on the board. Fair enough. [ __ ] it. I'm just eight running back build, baby. Yeah, this might be a [ __ ] eight RB build. AI slop running back [ __ ] core. Well, good thing you asked there, uh, Captain Clutch Pants, cuz we are doing a startup right now. The equivalent of the 103 went at the 311. So, in terms of equivalent names there, Boon Knicks, uh, James Cook, Coulson Lovelin, Chris Lave, like those are about the names that went around the 103 in our startup. So, hopefully, yeah, you can see it on the screen there. So, you can see uh you could see, yeah, was it Wil Yeah, Wilson, Ibuka, Rice, those guys were the ones that went after. And then, yeah, Lava and [ __ ] were the ones that went ahead. Did Did you see that? Um, Cam Scataboo said that CT isn't real. It's an excuse. I'm like, "What the heck? Didn't we just Igbuka just had like a account hacked that he said, "Uh, is CTE even real?" And then Scataboo's like, "Bet, bro. I got I got a window to talk about this. I got a window to make my thoughts clear on CTE as well." You know, it'd be hilarious if he was like, "Yeah, I saw the Bucks receiver talking about this on Twitter." There's no there's no chance his account was actually [ __ ] hacked. No, he's on a podcast. He said it. No, I'm saying Igbuka. No, Ibuka doesn't have Twitter. That was a verified Twitter. No, it wasn't. It was a blue check. No, the the the controversy is that the Bucks didn't know it wasn't his Twitter and they had tagged him a couple times, but then Buccaneers communications after the tweet came out was like, "We've verified this now officially and I does not own this Twitter account, which is I mean, is that not just a cover up low key, bro? I mean, could it be? Maybe. But basuka. He's like this hyperch Christian super great guy. Like there's I don't think he would tweet something like that. Personally, I think it is definitely fake. But they did tag him a [ __ ] ton of times. Arthur, I messaged you back. Let me know what you're thinking cuz um, you [ __ ] I could work something. I could work something. That guy is going to be white AB, bro. Yo, Scott White AB, man. White AB is crazy. White AB. Also, that that account is nuked. I searched up Amecha Gabuka. That exact account doesn't exist on Twitter. Yeah, it could totally have been the [ __ ] buck saying, "Yo, delete your [ __ ] account right now." Dude, I'm telling you, it's not his account. It's suspended. I know. They suspended it because it was impersonating somebody. It could be. Am I having a killer startup? Is that what's happening? I might be a conspiracy theorist. could could be believing in too many conspiracies here. Maybe uh my startup could go extremely poorly, Arthur, when Brian Thomas Jr. averages like I took two players in the first five rounds of a startup that had like 700 receiving yards last year and Marvin Harrison and Brian Thomas Jr. So, let's let's hold the horses on me having a great startup so far. I I I took major risks with my picks. Yeah, you're you're cooking, though. Uh, I definitely um I definitely want wanted Burden. Sorry, I can't speak. Uh, I was too busy reading this. Um, you know, he's he's live he's living in Israel playing Fortnite. Bro, you didn't know? Is that the thing? Yo, what's good, Dylan? 2027 video going to come out this weekend? No, it's going to come out when Cory's back. We're going to record it. Yeah, we uh it'll be it'll be out um it'll be out during the week. I promise you. Uh, Dobbins isn't a bad little fallback for running back touches on a build like this. Um, I don't know if I want to take him here because his ADP is so so so much lower. But this this running back is this is just bad. I I am This is going to be a We load up on the rookie class and Oh, yeah. No, for sure. This is an eight running back build. I don't think there's other Ah,

Damn. I was actually going to take him.

Doc. Doc could go Lawrence or Birdie. Yeah, I'll take Lawrence cuz I know that Hunter will be on the menu later.

So, my man, I uh I'm going to grab uh I'mma grab Samuel L, too, because I like his uh little Samuel uh Leaporta here. Uh yeah, Arthur, just um let me know what you're thinking, by the way, because um I I texted you. I'm trying to multitask. Man, this uh this startup is getting to be I can't wait till it's at the point in the draft where we all want to die. That's my favorite part of startups when everyone's like, "Ew, this sucks."

At least people still find some uh players interesting, which is nice.

Dude. In be like, this is my my controversial opinion in Dynasty best baseball startups. I actually think that sometimes the diff like I I don't want to get too hot takey here. The difference between the people who win the league and the other contending teams in the league, so not like the whole league, but just like the contending teams who wins and who loses to me sometimes can be the guys who draft better in rounds 15 through 30 in dynasty start uh best startups.

15 people people who drafted like Michael Wilson and viewed him like, "Hey, he's a guy who gets on the field. He has a good snap share. He'll have a couple of spike weeks and then obviously he runs as pure as he possibly can." Um I actually think that drafting super super super well late in startups and having that best ball uh like specifically for baseball like it matters so so much more than I think people give it credit for. Like obviously people who won their leagues last year was probably because of JSN and Trey McBride and the guys that were league winners in reddraft too. But I do think that like like I literally won one of our dynasty basketball startups because of Terrence Ferguson.

And two years ago, like the the year before I won it because of um uh what's his name? Uh Foster Maro caught like two touchdowns in week 16 or whatever.

Hey Arthur, I'm going to pull the you from yesterday. By the way, I feel like we have a [ __ ] deal.

Surprised you didn't go golf. Yeah, I definitely could have gone golf. I like I have I had the infrastructure to take off. I just like Trevor Lawrence had fallen 10 picks past ADP and I thought that was a better value there.

Arthur, I want my third back and I want David goddamn Putney just cuz I feel like that's funny.

No, full transparency. So, he offered me the Everyone wants David Putney, guys. Everyone can't have David Putney.

He offered me 611 plus uh his 2027 second. Or is that his? Oh, I thought it was mine. Wait, I thought that was mine. Okay, let me Is that mine? Yo, sorry, I might have inputed it wrong. Let me let me let me resend it to you. But basically, it was the 611 plus my second and third for uh the pick on the clock.

I want my picks back. All of them.

I want to I'm just going to resend to you, Arthur. I I I want to make sure I sent it right because it said your name and I'm not sure if that's just a visual glitch on PC. I need Dobbins and Coleman to fall to me so bad here or I am so [ __ ] at running back and I'm about to get double sniped, aren't I?

All right, I I resent it now, Arthur. It should be all good. My bad.

Oh god, this is going to be bad.

Um, okay. Perfect. Perfect. Arthur, I couldn't tell on my end, so I just wanted to make sure I resent it perfectly. I resent now.

Um, I Coleman fell.

Yep, that's perfect.

Okay, we take Jonah with one of these. Rashad White's not to kind of like do I'm not taking Rashad White over some of these guys. [ __ ] no. Um,

I mean, he's not terrible, but I just pointed out running back touches. Don't shoot the messenger.

Uh, let me go. I'll take Casey here.

Little concept. This is going to be a This is going to be an eight running back build. Like, I'm gonna have to just be hammering names late in the draft. So, yeah,

I've already given up. The the the board hasn't flattened out to the point where I'm like, "Okay, everyone sucks. I'll take shots on running back."

Yeah. No, Arthur about to get some Blay. Some Squan Bachley. Looks like we have

Yeah, I can I I can land it for sure. It's just It's looking rough right now.

Yeah, I know. Um my my second running back might get day three draft capital. So,

Um what uh running backs are available? Uh, Kaka and Pee.

Tyrone Tracy is not a bad show. Jonathan Brooks.

Everything smells here. Everything.

Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones is a good value. I think this is like the type of team you got to take the risk on a Jonathan Brooks as well.

Well, you're not a big fan of 134 Mike Washington.

No.

I dude I like those Adrien Peterson tweets just pissed me right off. Yo yo yo yo play of this guy's career and go dude he looks like Adrien Peterson here. It's like yeah so does like the best play the best play of every running back prospect's career of the last 20 years. They all look like they're the sickest running back alive.

Bro, if you just look at a highlight tape of Trey Benson, you're going to be convinced he's a superstar.

Dude, if you look up a highlight tape of [ __ ] Jamar Jefferson, you'd be convinced he's pretty sick.

Dude, that guy was an industry plant. Like when I saw the he's like RB3, he's low-key just the old Mike Washington.

Yeah.

Terms of the No, dude. You gotta be so so careful in draft classes like these. Just we just have to admit that the running backs aren't good. Like we can't just do this. We can't go, "Oh, Mike Washington, we need an RB3 in this class, so let's just [ __ ] hype him right up." No. If they're a flex play caliber prospect in the model, they have a one in 10 chance of ever being fantasy relevant. That is reality of the hit rates. One in 10 chance means you could draft 10 Mike Washingtons and one time out of 10 statistically you'll get a a legit RB1 RB2 caliber finisher year-over-year.

What does it look like in that one time though?

By I know I'm [ __ ] joking.

Or Chase Brown. Actually, Chase Brown's too upside. He's not even here.

I'm I'm a Jamari Taylor fan. I will put that out there. I am a Jamari Taylor does does slap my Exactly. That's exactly who he reminds me of, too. He's exactly like Isaac.

That was literally my comp for him when I watched this tape.

Yeah, he's exactly like Isaac Corendo.

He actually kind of remind Like this is mean because this guy sucked so much ass in the NFL, but he kind of reminds me a little bit of Caleb Bell, too.

Oh, yeah. [ __ ] I think Ron said that, too.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, Jamari Taylor's really interesting. He's like I do see some some obscenely outrageous comps being thrown out for Mike Washington, though. It's really funny. So Taylor's smaller, but like I can see him like Jordan Masoning his way. It's like, oh, he tags onto a roster. Probably goes round five, round six. You can see like a four game stretch where he gets some significant touches. Looks good. Like he's just he's an NFL running back. Is he going to be like a like a top end starter? Probably not. Like unfortunately, but at the same time, if you just need a guy that can check every box in your backup role, like Jamari Taylor is him. And I think I personally would be comfortable taking him the end of the third early fourth round area. But I do think the NFL is probably going to push him down because of his size.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Um, Jadarian Price is a guy that is every year we're going to have one or two prospects like this where the film community and the analytics community are going to be kind of diametrically opposed on a player. Um, but I would say even the analytics community this year goes, "Okay, we kind of understand why he wasn't productive, etc., etc." Um, but you do see people going, "Whoa, why is he getting mocked in the first round or like it's like on Jedarian Price?" My thought process is like this feels more like Lad McConi where you and I were on the same page as the the film community. We're like, "Yeah, this guy's much better than his profile." And I feel the same way about Jadarian Price. This doesn't feel as much like Matthew Golden to me.

I agree. Um um and among running backs, I'm trying to think who's been like a a film like Jo like it feels more like Josh Jacobs than it feels like um who's a guy who had good film and bad analytics at running back.

Um I mean like this guy was hurt, but I know like there was a Rashad Penny high like the film watchers like he was insane analytically. What do you mean?

Oh fair. Like I just remember I just remember Okay. It was vice versa then cuz I remember like there was like a shock that he went in the first round at that time. I'm trying to think Mike Washington here.

I mean how far behind a trust the tape? [ __ ] that.

Yeah, I don't I can't take him over. I can't take Denzel. Tracy.

Yeah, I just picked him.

Uh Charbanet or Brooks here probably. No.

Uh yeah, I think I'll go I think I'll go Brooks. I I kind of want to take the risk on him.

Chamra's a good comp. He didn't go that high though. Like who went like really high?

Yeah, Chimera. Chimera is a good film film related comp.

Like who went really high that I'm trying to think of that wasn't Chimera. Sony Michelle were the ones that came for me.

Sony Michelle is probably the best comparable for like what Jadarian Price is.

He's literally my comp for Jarian Price. Like he's absolutely the best comparable for him.

Obviously like people understand Miles Miles Sanders is not a terrible one, but people had worries with Miles's film. Well, Walker's another one, but like Walker did have the big year before he he committed. I just analytically it was just receiving stuff that people were worried about were him with him. But people breakout age people said to be fair, Jarian Price people are like he has no receiving production and that's why his analytical profile sucks.

Um with Walker too, wasn't he like a late breakout? That was like what people held against him too. No, I think the majority of I remember the Walker discourse was that his receiving profile was like fifth percentile or something like it was really really pretty useless and for a guy that was the the full-time bellcow to be completely useless as a receiver people were a little worried about at least with Price it's like okay he wasn't the bellcow in any facet.

So I actually did find this by the way he he technically Walker didn't really break out till his third year because he left Wake Forest for Michigan State. Yeah. So, his his best non-M Michigan State year, he averaged 4.9 yards per carry, but had 13 touchdowns at Wake Force. And obviously, he goes to Michigan State, 6.2 yards per carry, over 1,600 rushing yards, 18 scores, goes top 40 in the NFL or top 45 the NFL draft. He went 41 overall. Um,

Another guy that I thought of actually too is um Raandre Stevenson. Had a horrible profile and the film people did like Raandre Stevenson.

Um, I just traded the pick, Jordan. I'm waiting for uh Mr. Waiting for Mr. Arthur to accept on the app.

Uh yeah, Walker's pass catching profile was brutal. Yeah, I usually like good players in secondary roles like Neighbors and BTJ. Yeah, I I think you can definitely get good value when any blanket statement is being made about any prospect. Like when there's a narrative out there that a certain prospect doesn't do this or doesn't do that or didn't ever reach this threshold that for some reason they decide is important. There's usually some kind of value to be had there. Like for example, um it can apply not even to production. Like Jonah Coleman will be a value in rookie drafts because he's going to go day three. Like people are just going to go, "All right, I don't draft day three running backs in the first round of rookie drafts or in the high areas of rookie drafts. I'm not drafting him until there's no way I could take, you know, Jonah Coleman who went in the fourth round over Zachariah Branch who went 38th overall. It's like I'll [ __ ] like I'll [ __ ] do it. I don't care. Uh 2027 seems way too overhyped now. Yeah, we we'll talk about the 2027 class. And um I would say the the first overview because I've actually loaded the running backs into the model already, so I'm actually pretty well verssed on the running back class. There's some guys that I don't see any hype for that have really nice profiles so far. I think that the class, the position group in the class that actually is the most underrated in 2027 is the running back class.

I think a lot of people are focused on Jeremiah Smith, rightfully so. Um Arch Manning and the quarterbacks and stuff. I am actually really impressed with how the running back class might end up being in next year's class versus, you know, I could see the bottom falling out of the wide receiver class a little bit next year. Like I I think that if Cam Coleman doesn't hit at Texas, if you know some guys go back or whatever, like it might be it might be not like this year's class at running back where it's Jeremiah Love and everybody else, but it wouldn't shock me if it's a little bit more of like a okay, there's a big two or a big three wide receiver prospects and then it starts to taper off at that point after that point.

Yeah. Well, um I was looking at uh mockdraft database and like holy crap, like a guy like Isaac Brown for whatever reason is just buried.

Yeah, dude. Kawan Lacy isn't even listed.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Yeah. Like, dude, the running back I'm There's There's three or four running backs I have in my model that I've never heard a single person hype up.

I mean, Hollywood Smother's probably going to be one of them because he went to Texas.

No. No, not Hollywood Smothers.

Really? Yeah. He was pretty productive before he left. No.

Also, when do you hear me hype up Texas players? I'm not even that hyped on Texas players.

Um, I'm scared about Spears. I'd probably rather take Wilson.

Uh, yeah. I mean, my love goes there. I I think Jonah is going to end up being a Seahawk, so I don't want to take [ __ ] Oh, fair. Wilson there. I'll take um Benson's pretty good here. You don't have Honestly, I'm just going to take Chimera.

That's pretty for what it's worth.

Anyways, um the other Louisville back or the other Texas Tech? Yeah, the other Texas Tech back is in there. He's he's one of them. Um Florida's running back, BA, I think his name is, is um I mean, Jame, yeah, he's huge. His uh his profile is materializing very nicely.

He's like 230 pounds here. Let me pull this up uh because I don't have it in front of me right now.

Wait, Branson Robinson's at Georgia State now. That's actually hilarious. I remember that guy at Nick Jobcoms. Yeah, literally literally poor one out for Branson Robinson, dude. There's a couple of poor one out transfers that you look at and you go, "Ah, that's tough."

Yeah, I know. Jaden Bos have 508, which is crazy. Jordan Marshall's good as [ __ ] bro. Like Jordan Marshall, I'm telling you right now, people are gonna sleep on. He's gonna go crazy this year at Michigan because uh what's it called? Hannes is out. Haynes transferred out because we got Haidider. Uh but he's a freshman. And Jordan Marshall was just so good down the stretch, he pushed Hannes out.

Yeah. So Jaden Ba from Florida is actually the number one running back prospect in the model in the 2027 running back class right now.

Interesting.

6'1, 231, projected to run 446. Very productive this year. Um traits wise very solid like had a a really high pass protection grade. Um rush like his market share like rushing touchdown market share and yards after contact numbers are like he averaged 7.4 yards after contact per attempt.

Well I remember hearing about ball in a couple group chats going into the year and I was kind of tracking him early in the season and yeah like the only real 90 rushing grade and a 70 receiving grade too like on PFM. like he's a really he's a really solid um he's huge.

Yeah, he's a really solid prospect so far. We'll see. Again, a lot of the running back class too, a lot of the best running back prospects in it are underassman.

Um so that's something that we got to worry about with running backs is that they don't always come out as juniors as much anymore because of the NIL stuff. But uh Jacobe Williams, the other Texas Tech running back is fifth in the model among 2027 running backs. So he's actually ahead of Kanan Lacy in the model. That's interesting because Kanan Lacy had a big time year.

Yeah. Um, so I did it a little differently because the running like in my opinion, this is just a subjective opinion of mine. The running back NFL mockdraft database is wrong. Like I don't even want to use it as a data point.

Like Kanan Lacy's not listed there. Isaac Brown's not listed there. Um, Jaden Bos listed as a UDFA. Jordan Marshall's listed as a UDFA. Like it's just wrong in my opinion. Like

How does Brown stack up?

Is it accurate for like Darius Taylor and LJ Martin and guys that we have multiple years of data for? Probably. But is it accurate on these underassman? I doubt it.

Well, like how does a guy like Isaac Brown show up because he um he's a senior this year. Yeah.

Well, well, no. He's a junior. He's he's the per game guy. He's a he's senior year.

Are you sure? He produced as a true freshman two years ago.

Positive. He's He's going into his junior or senior year.

Um I don't know about that. Isaac Brown, Louisville running back. He started as a true freshman and last year was his sophomore year.

Hold on, let me double check. I have I have it pulled up right now.

He's listed fourth year out of high school on um campus.

So he red shirted then. Yeah, he must have. He he he's been in says he's been in college for four going to four years. People are saying he's a junior. Okay, maybe Cam Scantton is wrong, but I swear on PFF it said that he had a blank year as a freshman as well.

He must have red shirted then.

Yeah, he's he's four year four out of high school is what it says cuz well his first his I guess red shirt freshman year he had 7.1 yards per carry, 11 touchdowns, over 1100 rushing yards. This year he averaged 8.8 yards per carry but he only got 101 carries because he got hurt.

Yeah. I mean he's he was born in ' 05 so he'd be 22 next year. It' be hard to believe he's a true junior.

Yeah. Yeah. So, he's probably rusher junior then. That's fair.

Yeah. Which is like not bad, but he's technically not an early declare.

Yeah, fair. I mean, 15 for 113 against number two Miami.

No, no. I But again, he's he's literally listed as an undrafted free agent on NFL mockdraft database, which I'm like, I just don't get where they're get like, so what I did instead of using the the the draft I just graded their their grade minus the draft capital input and then I uh here, let me make these picks for a second. actually Samson.

What about Brian Robinson? What do you think about that?

When he signs could go singles.

I guess I'm going to I'm just going to be Mason Taylor. I just don't think he should be going this low.

Fair enough.

Um yeah, Isaac Brown would have had 884 rushing in what? One, two, three, four, five, six. So what I did, nine games.

Yeah. No, he's he's a solid player for sure. What I did is I took the grades without draft capital. I basically did the math so that it would be out of the same amount as the total FSE grade. So, it's essentially just removing the draft capital input and just grading the profile itself. Um, but then what I did in previous years was if you were going into your junior season, your true junior season, like a true early declare, I gave them I divided the whole thing by 90 out of 100. If you were going into true senior season, so year four of college, I divided it by 95 out of 100. And then if you were a going into year five or year six, I didn't do any of that because I wanted to account for progression that they could have this year a little bit. So um yeah, there like as of now and again this is super early and you know not necessarily the most accurate read and some of these guys could go uh back to school. There's two workhorse prospects right now and there is seven RB1 upside prospects right now and eight RB2 upside prospects right now. That is an extremely loaded class. Like to give you an idea this year, Jeremiah loves generational obviously the next best running back is Jonah Coleman who's RB the only RB1 upside prospect. There are seven in next year's class projected as of now and in maybe in 2028's class as well because some of them will go back to who are the others like Haynes and then eight RB2 upside prospects which is equivalent to like RJ Harvey's and Belle Tutons and Jadarian Price type running back prospects. Um, the RB1 upside prospects are LJ Martin, Ahmad Hardy, Jacob, uh, Jacobe Williams, Kawan Lacy, Jordan Marshall, Justice Haynes, Mark Fletcher. That's those would probably be the guys I would have guessed. Now, I'm curious who's the other one on top with the Jaden Ball then.

Darius Taylor. Oh, right. Because he's got the big time.

He's got a complete profile right now, but the efficiency, the fact that the other guys can still progress and he can't really. So, I mean, if he has a bounceback season, the guy's profile is insanely good.

Yeah. The thing with Taylory old breakout age, man. Like, he was a [ __ ] monster early on in his career.

The issue is just the efficiency has gone down every single year. This could be like a Judkin situation.

Yeah. I would say that like this is a good point. Like I would say it's going to rival 2025s, but again it's going to depend on how many like how many guys come out early, how many of these guys build upon SL like ultimately some of these guys like 25 30% of them will have down seasons. Just mathematically that's usually what happens. But I would say like a good expectation if you're trading for picks like and build like rebuilding with the idea that the running back class is going to be good. I would expect it to be comparable to 2025s. Maybe the top end prospect is not quite as good as Genty though would be the only thing I would say. Yeah. Like I keep like a comparable 2020 like the Judkins and the Henderson types like you're going to get some of those prospects for sure.

Yeah. I'm curious about Taylor because I haven't he's going back to Minnesota I'm assuming.

Yeah. The guy that I think has the absolute highest ceiling in the entire class who's currently the highest rated up RB2 upside prospect is uh Kaden Durham from LSU.

Yeah. I mean he was good as a freshman. I remember that.

Yeah. He's um he's going to be barely 20 years old on the night he gets drafted if he comes out this year.

How was he this past year?

He according to NFL draft buzz, he has 42 speed.

What? Yeah, apparently. Again,

I've seen him in spurts. I didn't see that.

I know. That's why you can't read in too much to this stuff is like we don't actually know if he has 42 speed or not, but it that's the projection. And he was on the freaks list as well. So, I mean, Arthur, it's literally the exact same deal you sent me, except with my third back, which you got for free from moving down one pick to a guy that you value the same. Like, if you're willing to do it for my 2027 second, me adding the third back shouldn't sway them.

A [ __ ] Christ, man. I want Elijah on these teams.

I mean, I I I get it, Arthur, but like you initially offered that and I just added the third on top. Like, I don't think I don't think the third is enough to sway the deal off. know, maybe maybe I'm maybe I'm off.

Uh LSU is going to be I mean I don't I don't associate Sam Levit with fun typically, but um yeah, it just gave me a ch a chance to my mind. Yeah, I mean fair. Uh obviously obviously you're not entitled to make a move. But I don't know like if you're good to do the other one like I think I got I got to take another quarterback. I only have Drake May and Trevor Lawrence on this team but there's no starting quarterbacks left. I might have to take a late round Deshun Watson stab. Oh, it gave you a chance to change your mind. Okay, fair. Fair.

Um I don't know. I mean, you you have a running back. You can add another like elite point getter like grab playorn here.

It's fair.

It's a very heavy running back build because of how I built out this team. Um do one more tight end as well. And Jooku's just everyone's letting him fall. I guess I'll just take him again.

Too ridiculous. I need another quarterback with my final pick. Um hopefully I can get Tai or Watson maybe. Uh Max not a terrible third option. Also Fields isn't horrible for the implied upside if Mahomes has a setback or if he got Yeah. I mean he's been relatively durable throughout his whole career though of Mahomes. So I don't like really love that.

I'd actually rather take the shot on like an ambiguous situation like a McCarthy or something where I'm like ah maybe he gets in there for some games cuz Kyler's not playing well.

The only position I've done is is running back and I'm not going to do uh the whole tight end position. I'm just gonna put like Jamari Johnson in and like the guys that might crack a top 24 tier list. Um I might have to take Henderson, man.

And quarterbackwise, I'm gonna probably do the same thing with uh maybe just taking the draft capital with a grain of salt because I just don't like you can't convince me that DJ Lagway is a first round quarterback. Like, let's be serious cuz here's the other thing people don't understand about how NFL mockdraft database works. Um, people this time of year are not doing multi-round mockd drafts for 2027. So, a player who is in a mock draft will will start to get a first round ADP based solely on the fact that they were in a mockdraft because they're only doing round one mockdrafts.

Yeah.

So, if somebody's super high on on DJ Legway and they put him at 25 or something, he's suddenly going to have a mockdraft database ADP of 25. Like, everybody's mocking him there, but it's like a one mockdraft sample. Yeah. No, Arthur, you're chill. You're chill. Um,

Yeah. Yeah, he's fun, too. Tradez Green from LSU is is a fun tight end prospect for sure. He's like 6'7, like 245 pounds, and he had like one of the best tight end games I've ever watched um against uh who was I watching? Uh Garrett Garrett Nusmire's tape. When I was watching Garrett Nusmire's tape against um South Carolina, Trade Green had like 112 yards or something and it was he was unguardable. He was unbelievably good.

I'm trying to figure out who I want to take here now. Um

Yeah. No, literally like it's really wide receiver could I mean wide receiver could look even if wide receiver looks better than this running back class. I mean we're talk we are talking truly about one of the better classes of the last 10 years. Um because if we get three to four first round quarterbacks, this running back group materializes the way that, you know, conservatively it should, which is like at least five, six of them are top 100 picks in the NFL draft. Um and we get, you know, four to five first round receivers on top of that. Like we're we're looking at um a really solid class for sure.

Yeah, I'll still take offers, but now I'm trying to figure out who I want to take.

Yeah. Nick Marsh, Charlie Becker. Yeah, I mean there there's guys for sure. I think I I think Deuce Robinson from Florida State's pretty underrated as well. Um

Hey Cory saying I offered you Roma Dunce for Luther Burden trade up. You wouldn't take it?

No, because I purposely took Burden over Odun because I have four shares of Odun and zero of Burden.

I was more so being physicious. I realized that's why you did it, but I'm like [ __ ]

I mean, if you want to add a plus, I'll do it.

I mean, I wouldn't do that. They're four spots.

I mean, you should based on your rankings.

They're four spots apart. I but if you want burden that bad that's there I dude is that ever something I would do by moving up two spots at wide receiver and four spots in my overall rankings and giving an extra value on top.

I mean if you feel sometimes four spots in your rankings is a completely different feeling of the player though.

Sure. And I mean you have a Dun ranked higher than Bird and so I also know that I am.

Yeah. But I just I because I want a Burden share because I have so much exposure to Odun. wouldn't sell him unless you gave me Odun plus.

That's reasonable. I I just won't do that, but that's fine. Um,

No. Lit, dude. Literally, the fact that USC had Woody Marks as their running back, Lemon Lane, Branch, and Deuce Robinson all on the same roster and they couldn't win [ __ ] is pretty insane.

Good thing you have to play defense.

Well, and their quarterbacks suck, too.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, literally. It reminds me of them not winning [ __ ] when they had Pitman, London, and ARSB. You know what? I actually kind of think this is a little bit, and I think Penn State has this problem, too. Um,

Yeah,

It's more like they're they're setting their players up to become good pros, but they're not teaching them how to win college games, if that makes any sense. Like the coaching that they're getting is making them good prospects, but it's not making them great, super productive, and winning college players.

It's the old Kentucky basketball factor with Calipari. Yeah, it's a weird it's a weird dynamic because USC receivers seem to have this problem. Um, yeah, like Penn State, everything has this problem. Like the wide receiver and tight end position and even drawer, too. Like they seem like they have the tools. They're like they're being coached to like make plays where it matters and and run, but like it seems like they're a a year behind or two years behind where they need to be. And then once they get into the NFL, they seem to to fill in those gaps, whatever it is.

Yeah. No, that makes sense. the layoff go Trojans. Sorry, our bad.

Um, sorry, I'm trying to figure out.

Do I Do I just do I put my nuts on the table here, Danny? Instead of taking Ty Simpson with my last pick, I take D. No, I'll take Tyson.

What are the odds he starts a game next year?

Drew? Yeah.

If Hey, Drew. Drew could be a god next year. Let's be But here's the thing though. I don't think they have insane athletes that can't play well. I think that they play well. It's just they don't play well enough to win games.

Yeah.

Like they seem like they're a year behind where they should be. Like I said,

They're kind of losers. You're saying, eh?

Yeah. Exactly. Um All right. Uh I don't know if I have the energy to do and stuff.

Yeah, I know. We'll we'll we'll do that this week. I'm going to figure out what the [ __ ] I think when I get back. Um I'm kind of hung over and uh I want to take a nap. So I'm at like if anybody's wondering why I'm in British Columbia, by the way, I'm at my brother's bachelor party and they are uh sturgeon fishing right now. Um and if you're wondering why I'm not there, uh fishing has never been my favorite activity in the world. This is like a take that gets people so mad. I don't like fishing. It's not an activity I enjoy doing.

It's not because I'm impatient. I don't like being in nature. I just fishing to me is just not fun. I don't know. And I've caught fish before. I've reeled in [ __ ] 10 pound salmon before. Like it's it's I just am not a huge fishing person. And it's it's sacrilegious in Canada to say you don't like fishing.

You're not a fisherman.

No. My brother loves fishing. He always has. So it's been a a lifelong battle for me to go fishing with him. But it worked out perfectly in my favor that they're taking like a charter boat to go sturgeon fishing and there was only five spots on the boat. And if I wanted to come, they'd have to take two charter boats and it would have been like So you said, "No worries. No worries. I'm like, don't worry. You five go. It's only $200 a person for them to go. It would be 350 a person if we all wanted to go. Problem solved. There you go. You you get you get the chill and they go."

And yes, I do. I do get seasick on boats as well.

It's like manageable. like I just pop a gravel, but I don't love the feeling of being on a boat. Um, I'd rather throw a throw, you know, a cast into a river and sit on a dock. If I had to choose my my type of fishing, that's what I would choose. But you got to understand, too, my brother is a psycho and goes at 4 a.m. and fishes for 12 plus hours. Like, we don't casually fish in this house. There's no like going to a dock and fishing for an hour. Where I where I'm from, like in my household, it was go at 4 a.m. and fish for 12 hours. You know how you mentioned sometimes you just wake up with miracles in your inbox?

What? Oh no.

I'm not even joking you. I literally just woke up with a miracle in my inbox.

Shady. What on earth?

I I I swear to God I did not even I didn't even remotely start that. I just got got it sent.

I Dude, I literally offered him. Danny, I'm not even [ __ ] you. I offered him the 411 for the 705 in his 27 first and he [ __ ] didn't want to do it.

Maybe maybe he sees it as part of that tier and now he realizes that they're not going to make it to his pick. I don't know. I I had no I had no input. I just I checked the trades and that was there.

Oh my god, Corey is livid. I got my fourth five picks better of an offer earlier today. four hours ago. I sent him five picks better of an offer.

That's probably why he did it because he saw I was on the clock and accepting offers and there's probably still a player that was in that tier. Um but yeah, for those of you that are curious um shout out Shady, appreciate you, brother. I will take it. You're welcome for not accepting. Yeah. No, shout out Arthur. Shout out Arthur. Actually, he is the real MVP here. He is the real MVP. He can't keep getting away with it.

Yeah, that's what [ __ ] Ronaldo just said in the chat. I sent Shady this four hours ago, bro. I sent him the 411 for the 705 and a 27 first and he didn't respond.

He probably saw it now. Saw that you I waited the whole time though. I like I was on the like I waited a long time on the clock.

Oh, I mean I'll take it.

Good lord.

Now you guys see my point.

Excellence. You remember how I said Danny always gets way more offers than our gifts?

Never happened. That's like the first Danny. This already happened in this startup. Your first deal? No. Yeah. Your first deal was a fleece also with Jordan. Yes.

Bro, the reason I know it was a fleece is cuz when you know it's a fleece, you come into the chat immediately and defend the other side of the trade.

I do that on every trade to be fair.

It's actually pretty fair if you really think about it, brother. You've had two gifts in your inbox and one startup so far. It was Yeah, Arthur Arthur knows ball.

We'll let the chat decide. We We'll let the chat decide.

I don't think you essentially just traded like this this last one. Yeah. Okay. I did not I I got a nice ass deal like the one that I just woke up.

Let's say he takes Let's say he takes um uh AJ Brown, Bucky Irving, Trevon Henderson, Baker Mayfield, CJ Stout, etc. Tyler Warren, maybe that's who he takes. Let's say he takes one of those guys. You're going to get like a slight mini tier down plus a first round pick at that same position.

Uh what pick? Sorry.

This pick. Whoever he picks here, like whatever position it ends up being, it's you're going to get a very similarly valued player. Plus

I'm not going to defend this one. I definitely feel like I I got a good deal here. But I also think like this is about what Puka should go for.

I'll let you guys decide on that. I mean, it's Puka Nua. That was a mega fleece.

I don't know, D. Okay, Danny, in this deal. Like, you can't be serious, right? You seriously don't think this is a mega fleece?

I mean, puka versus the 211, the 311. I think you need to add on to the 21.

You dropped down like one spot, one round of ADP, and moved up from the You're too busy looking at picks. I'm looking at tier gaps. Spooka was the last of that tier in the mid-first round. It fell off after him. You moved up three rounds from round six to three.

Sure. On the other side of the deal.

Sure. What I'm saying though, Corey, is that Puka Nua I have valued as my 103.

Okay.

And so replace that with Bejon. Replace that with Gibbs. Replace that with someone with like I do think those four flex players are a tier above anybody else.

Well, here's the easy way to go about this. The 211 was Justin Herbert.

Yes.

The 107 was Puka Nuo. Would you guys want I would need over a first round pick in 2027 to move up from Herbert to Puka. Very You got over a first round pick. You also got the difference.

Yeah. Between what is that the 607 which hasn't even been picked yet and who went at the 311 the 103.

Um yeah, brother. You got the Are you like Are we serious? You got the 103 in this side of the deal, too. This is a mega fleece, bro. Mega fleece.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Maybe it was It was a fleece. you you essentially got the 103 just my original first for Puka Nua plus let's say optimistically that's Travis Hunter optimistically that's um that's uh Quinn Sean Judkins that that's definitely not going to be Judkins he's going to go before 607 so a also that 27 first is probably going to profile to be mad considering the context of his team b um the initial offer I don't know how that goes though with the initial offer I sent I was going to 211,42 and 511 for 107 and 706. That was what I sent initially.

Yeah. No 1142.

My entire point My entire point was that you got a gift in your inbox more than once at this startup alone.

Yeah, I definitely got better value than my initial offer. I can't lie.

Yeah. And I I'm not gonna I'm think that I did with Ronaldo was pretty good for my side as well. Like the 27 first deal that I did. But I'm surprised that you've been able to do this more than like you not only have you done it more than once, you've done it three times.

Like your f your third your other deal was fine. I thought that was fair value. But the like the fact that you've been able to collect these first pretty easily. That's pretty insane.

You want to hear the funniest part.

What?

By the end of the 10th round, I'll still have made 11 picks.

Like what on earth are we doing here, fellas? What are we doing?

He can't keep getting away with it. is exactly the correct opinion. This guy just got a mid7 for a mid a mid7 and a 27 first and potentially the best draft class of the last 10 years for mid.

You're getting so upset about it. Your offer was basically the same was basically but I figured he wouldn't take it. I figured we'd work back from that.

Fair, but like it's it's funny with hindsight because it's like if if he took yours, he would have been like, "Oh, this is totally like the best deal of all time."

To be fair, mine was also the 411. Mine was a fourth round pick. Yours a 411. The difference between he did it for he did he did all that for Christian McCaffrey. That's who he took. Uh Dunay it was a 504.

Oh, was it? So he probably wanted both. So okay, you have Odun ranked higher than Burton in your ranking. So therefore,

But I still wouldn't trade Odun. I would not trade a [ __ ] first plus, you know, uh whoever goes in the seventh round at receiver for Odun. Not a [ __ ] chance.

Yeah. No, I get that, Cory, but like you offered that. So, like you can't be that. But again, I expected him to respond. Give me like a ninth on top of it and I'll do it. And I would have done that.

Like I would have given I would have given him 411 and a ninth for the 705 plus 27 first. I would have that was the deal I was prepared to do. I just sent him my first initial offer.

Yeah. I mean, Brock, to be fair, um I was literally about to make the deal with Arthur to move to the 611 for a two my two and three, which are probably early to mid, but parthur Arthur got cold feet. Why' I say Parthur?

Partially because Arthur got cold feet was probably what you were thinking.

Uh London Hampton 102 103 and four.

First, Dylan. Off. Right off. Look at his picks, guys. Look at his picks. Oh, he has four first. You'd think he'd be missing every pick in this area. He has all of them. Not one pick in the mid rounds is he missing. Not only he has an extra eighth, guys. He has an extra eighth and an extra tenth. What the [ __ ] are we saying? He has an extra eighth and an extra 10th in four ones. And he's made a pick in every round except for round one and I guess round four and five as well. But like, what are we doing?

What are we doing? I'm gonna be licking my lips looking at the my team's evaluator after the startup's done.

Yeah. I mean, here's the thing.

I love trolling Corey, by the way.

We have we have a startup strategy video going live tomorrow, and a lot of this the strategy that Danny's employing is what we talked about in said video. So, I can't even be mad at it. I'm just [ __ ] annoyed that I literally sent this guy a exact exact [ __ ] same offer, but five picks better, and he didn't respond to me for four hours. And Danny in he he Danny didn't even send this offer. He sent it to you.

No, no, no. Corey, I thank you cuz you gave him the idea to send that to me.

I did. I literally gave him the [ __ ] idea. And it's not like, oh, I sent him the offer and I made my pick within 20 minutes. I literally elongated the clock like four plus hours.

Cory's offer got me a deal done.

Katie, if you're listening this, I'm extremely angry at you. All you hear from me is like, "Hey, you know how you mentioned earlier you just wake up to gifts in the inbox and then you're like, "Wait, what do you mean?" You see it accepted. It's the exact same thing you said.

Yeah. Arthur, you're the big winner here, too. Like, think of think about this. You do have my two and three. Oh, man. I was really upset that I didn't have my two and three. I don't mind anymore. Cory's working the phones now. He's trying to trade down from another.

I'm so mad, dude. Like, oh my god. Cuz like I I feel like I'm having a nice startup and I like want to build upon it. And if Shady had done that deal with me, like he should have because again it was [ __ ] five picks better. Um then I would have we would both we would own half the first round each and I would be three ones. You'd be three ones. And again I'm in a very similar position to you. Like I'm making picks all the time. It's not like I'm, you know, losing a bunch of picks or anything. I'm just [ __ ] annoyed cuz like it's not like you're like the bottom fell out. You you have like cuz I've seen you do this before, Danny, where you have like four picks in the first 10 rounds. You make four selections in the first 10 rounds and then you have the picks in the bank. It's like, okay, great. He doesn't have any players on his roster, though.

It's like no flocking.

Like you you literally have four two top four picks in this year's rookie draft, Hampton and London, in addition to having all of your future capital in the startup. plus more somehow.

It's

how do you have extra picks?

I don't know.

Like the four and the five is what you're missing here. That's all you miss. Four, a fourth rounder and a fifth round

and a one

and a one.

Fourth rounder, fifth rounder and a one for four first round picks in a potentially generational draft class.

Three first extra. But

that's [ __ ] ridiculous.

This is no flocking for those of you uh curious. And I also, by the way, this is the bar without analyzing the fact that the My Teams feature doesn't account for 2028 picks and I have four 2028 firsts.

Yeah, we should probably get that in there.

Yeah, that's definitely what we're going to have to do next. But I have [ __ ] May, Bryce, Young, Puka, Gabuka, and then just 102, 112, all these seconds, three 2027 first, all these seconds, and then four 2028 first.

Jordan and uh Shady, man, you guys are veterans. Like like you guys are probably thinking, "Oh, are these like casuals that don't know your guys' content?" Jordan and Shady, I've seen you guys in here for years, brother. Like, what are we saying here? I know both of your first names. Like, like Shady, I know his first name is Matt. Like, that's how long he's been around. He's been in

That's a That's a crazy bar. I can't lie. I know both of your first names.

Like Jordan, his first name is Jordan because it's in his like username and [ __ ] but like Shady, I know his first name. That's how long he's been around. the boys. I mean, like I guess I guess you just got to be more efficient with your offers sent. I don't know.

Yeah. Like, oh my god.

By the way, that's 100% rage bait.

I guess I should have note the clock the whole eight hours apparently. That's all I could have done differently was Shady gets up and sees my offer instead of yours.

Yeah. I I mean, I I'm going to keep it a complete stack. I did not expect that to be in my inbox. and that I had I had like I had nothing to do with that even appearing. I didn't even [ __ ] message that. Like

that's the part that I said at the beginning of the stream pisses me off is that you get

the only time that's ever happened though.

I know this is so victimy how I'm talking right now, but like it is it's really accurate. Anybody who's been in a league with Danny, you go to the you go to the trade has been completed, you go, who sends these offers to Danny? Like why are you just bending? Um, al also I guess Alcoholics Anonymous has to update to 2026, but Dylan is very fascinated on it. It's a league that I share with uh Flet and it's in a league with uh Mr. AJ. Shout out Jinger.

Yeah. So AJ and his friends have a problem apparently.

Yeah, apparently.

Meanwhile, I have to chop off an arm to get it to Yeah, dude. Brock, again, I uh I know what you mean. There's there's certain leagues where you just go, I cannot collect picks in this league. I'm in two dynasty leagues where I'm like, it is impossible to get picks in this league. No flocking is one of them. It is impossible to collect picks in that league.

Yeah. No, sometimes it's really hard to collect picks for sure.

Shut up. I know you have a lot of picks in that league.

I'm [ __ ] with you. What league is it? Don't give a flock. My low key, don't give a [ __ ] My team's actually kind of like not very good.

Don't give a flock. My team's good. Uh, Brock, I'd hit you up for some for some deals.

Yeah, don't don't give a flock. Um, I'm probably going to need at least another year to tank because holy crap. Um, I need to catch up outside of the quarterback position. My flex and wide receiver ranks are pretty low and unfortunately I gave up my first going into the year in order to get Caleb Williams and Drake May paired up.

The problem is Arthur has all the first. Yeah, Arthur truly does have all the first.

He does.

If I don't have first in the league, you know who does? Arthur. Yeah, that's why uh so when Danny we rolled two provisionals, Bailey was one of them and Arthur was the other. I was like moderately mad at Danny for not waiting longer so Bailey could join the league. No disrespect me, but I'm just so annoyed with Arthur always collecting all the first in every league that I'm in with him. Uh and actually Bailey's done that in leagues that I've been with him uh too. Uh but yeah, it's here for the unbiased advice. I should I sell my 27 picks to compete with the both of you tanking? I'm not tanking. I'm just punting for one year. I have one extra first round pick.

Hey, I mean like if you want to move up to this uh 601 here, we can talk about my two and three.

Yeah, I mean I also am in possession of a pick pretty soon. Um I'm 609. [ __ ] I'm not. [ __ ] off. Danny's gonna have three more first by the time I pick. Um I Arthur, by the time I get on the board at 609, if there's a player on the board there, I I would assume it's probably almost exactly a one for one swap, give or take. um on a 27 first of value. But yeah, I'd be if you want to sell one for for a player, you feel free. I I'll I'll buy it. But we take it. Yeah. Anyways, um

I am still baffled though. I did not expect to just rent. I thought it was Arthur resending the trade because he's like, "Ah, [ __ ] it. I'll do it." And then I saw a first. I'm like, "A first? I get me in there."

All right. I'm about to fall asleep, so I need to uh I need to go take a nap because I already know when these guys get back from fishing, they are going to be rowdy and I I'm not going to be able to nap once they get back. So, I need a nap now. Um yeah, appreciate you guys for tuning in. Uh yeah, kind of just a mess around stream. Uh tomorrow, like I said before I left, we recorded a startup strategy video that I thought was really, really good and really valuable if you guys are doing startups this time of year. Um but yeah, appreciate you guys for tuning in. Like, comment, subscribe, all that good stuff. And uh stay tuned. In about twoish weeks or so, we should have the final edition of our draft guide out. Still have, you know, some of those lower-end prospects to watch and grade and a couple more videos to make. But, uh, yeah, we are we're going to be on that pretty soon. And, uh, I mean, at the very least, like the the draft is actually

exactly a month and two days away from today. So, it's we're actually a lot closer because the draft is on the 23rd this year as opposed to I think it was like the 28th last year or something like that. Like, it was a little later in April. So, we actually get the draft a little sooner. So, appreciate you guys. Like, comment, subscribe. Peace out. And uh don't trade it Danny any first if you're listening to this. Take it easy.