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This is the last question from Jared Higgby. "Thank you. Thank your parents, Jared, for for Chuck Knight says thanks for giving you just a regular name. Jared Higgby from Alamo, Nevada."
He says hello, Dr. Tyson. Lord Chuckles.
"You even said it right. Nevada. That's how they say it locally."
"They say it Nevada."
"Nevada."
"Uh, he says, this is Jared from Alamo, Nevada. My question is, Dr. Tyson, what do you dream about? Dr. Syon has mentioned several times about how easy it is for him to take a nap. And so I wonder what adventures his sleeping mind takes him. I will keep asking this question until I get an answer."
"Hey, he sounds like Freddy Krueger."
"I'm watching."
"I'm watching you, Dr. Tyson. Don't fall asleep ever."
"I'll be in your dreams."
"Uh, so that's a that's a perfect sort of uh Patreon behind closed doors question."
"Absolutely."
"So it is true. I can nap almost anywhere at any time in almost any body posture."
"So I can just curl up right here and go to nap. I can."
"I've seen you do it."
"I I can do it. Now you're yawning. Did I make you?"
"Sorry. You made me tired."
"I could do that."
"You sleep on a plane? I can't believe it."
"On an airplane. Yeah, I can I can do that."
"Yeah. And you're a big guy and you can sleep on a plane. I don't get it."
"Yeah. It might have been my years of dance."
"Really?"
"Yeah. Because when you dance, you're tired."
"Your your body, you're in complete control of every appendage of your body."
"You know what it's doing, how, and why, and what. And as a result, no matter what position your body's put in, that's just what it's in."
"You you can relax very easily in that position."
"Correct. No, that makes sense."
"There. People always have to I'm not comfortable moving, toss and turn. If you see what dancers do, they can do anything on the stage. Not that I was this was not the bo I was on like college troops but still I was very comfortable and that might have sort of been some early an early sort of baptism in being comfortable in almost any situation."
"So what do I dream about? I typically dream about um when I do dream and when I remember them, a recap of events in my life."
"Okay."
"So I don't dream new things. I don't dream new ideas."
"A lot of my new ideas, they come while you are conscious and awake."
"Uh, so that's all. It's nothing weird. I don't have weird dreams. It's pretty boring, I would say."
"Okay. And uh, but I own the book, the Freud book that he wrote, you know, hundred and how many years ago, the something analysis of dreams. And it's all."
"Oh god. Yes."
"I'm sorry to say."
"I mean, come on."
"What what I mean by that is he will interpret it for you, but you get another psychologist. They'll have a completely different a completely different. So there's no coherence to it. And in science, without coherence, you're really just making up."
"Of course. Yeah. So, I'm not going to look at my dream and then get a Freudian interpretation of it because I'm I'm not convinced of any of that."
"Yeah."
"Uh, I I like the fact that uh, I forget the last thing that I read uh about dreams and how they just may be a uh, the garbage disposal of your mind to to shake out the things that don't make sense or that."
"Right."
"It's like it's on a subconscious level. You're just emptying the trash. And the way the way you go into your computer."
"And if you prevent it from sleep because your body doesn't need the sleep as much as your brain does."
"Yes."
"Your brain is the one really needs the sleep."
"Your brain is the one that needs everything. Like how almost all of the calories that you eat that go straight to operating your brain."
"Plus when Jesus went into the desert and he starts hallucinating, right?"
"Okay."
"He hadn't slept in like a long time. I forgot exactly how long."
"Well, he was in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights."
"No, don't confuse him with Moses. No, Jesus was also in the desert for 40 days."
"Is that right?"
"Yeah."
"Okay."
"That was his."
"So, everybody was a 40-day thing."
"I mean, 40 is a is that's infinity. It's a long time in the Bible. Which is why 39 lashes was not infinity, right?"
"Right. For for when Jesus got whipped, you can 39 lashes. That was humane. 40 would be like, 'Right, that's pushing it.'"
"That's pushing."
"Don't blow it."
"But if you if you one more last if you spend a long time not asleep, your brain just can't handle it."
"Oh, no. Yeah. Without a doubt."
"Yeah. Yeah."
"All right. Well, that was cool."
"Okay. We got to end that there."
"Okay."
"So, now we go uh live questions rather than people doing my job."
"I don't know if I appreciate this. Asking your own damn questions."
"They might even pronounce their own name correctly."
"Well, that's the one. Is it Kevin the Seoier?"
"On that it is."
"Kevin. Hey Kevin, what are you drinking? What's the last thing you drink?"
"What's What's drinking, good buddy?"
"Uh, right. This little Island Vineyards. Little little Sarra. 2019."
"Nice."
"2019 Sarra. Huh? From Island Vineyards."
"Uh, I Okay."
"Is that how you pronounce that?"
"Eisele."
"Yeah. Yeah. But spell that."
"E I S E L E."
"Yeah. I I Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen that. That's how you pronounce that. I didn't know that. Okay."
"Okay. Very cool."
"Yeah."
"Um, I'm about to check that out. What What's a word with S's in it and you don't pronounce any S's?"
"Yeah. Sounds very French."
"We don't like the S."
"I mean, especially this time of year, holiday, you're doing some roasts. Yeah. Sarai. I mean, I I there's a day I I that was my wine of choice, the Sarra because I I hardly ever found a bad Sarra because there's always a lot of good stuff stuffing in it and a lot of good features that could then and then you put it with any roast this time of year, any kind of meat works with a raw like it's wonderful, you know. Yeah."
"All right. So what you got, sir?"
"So, kind of keeping on the wine theme. Uh, if you had to build a a cosmic wine flight, what would uh the three objects be to the best tell the the story of the universe?"
"Oh."
"Look at you, man. How long do you stay up thinking of that?"
"Jesus Christ."
"Well, I once hosted a tasting where all the labels were cosmic labels."
"Oh, okay."
"A cosmic label themed tasting. So, you know, there was like Planeta is like an Italian. Oh, there you go. Astralis. Very good. Very nice."
"Yeah, that's Aussie Sarra Shiraas with And that's um the Southern Cross on that. That's a good one. That cost a couple of dollars right there. Okay."
"But he's a young so he's allowed to hold up expensive one."
"I mean, he's just doing research."
"Exactly."
"You know what I mean?"
"It's science bragging. I'm just doing my job. So the I'd like it when winemakers are inspired by cosmic themes. Another one, a whole winemaker in California, remind me of his name. He had the Pleiades. He had uh uh Orion. Uh, he must have done well in his Astro 101."
"Yeah."
"No no bad feelings a after that. Right."
"And so it'll come to me in a minute. So, so I I did that and what we found was that in all cases, the labels were better than the wine."
"Well, I did a focus group once um for they're not a."
"But the winemaker is thac."
"Yeah. But they're not a vintner, but they they represent a bunch of winemakers and wine labels are a billion dollar a year business. Had no idea. What do you mean by that?"
"It is a billion."
"What do you mean by that?"
"The wine industry pays more than a billion dollars a year to figure out the right label to go on the bottle to represent not only what's in the bottle, but to market it. Because most people to sell it from the shelf. The idea is to sell the wine from the shelf as you walk. Cuz you go into Total Wine, there's a bajillion wine bottles there."
"And most people don't have an experience where they can just look at a wine and say, 'Oh, it's this, this, this, and this. It's this year, this vineyard, this thing.'"
"So, guess what? The number one thing that causes people to buy a wine is."
"Uh, the word oak on the label."
"No, the label."
"Just the label."
"Just the label. It's the number one factor that goes into a purchase of a wine."
"So, all these labels were better than the wine that was in them. However, the wine that was in them was better than a randomly purchased other bottle. Okay? I had some other bottles that were like in tandem with it. They were all better than their counterparts, okay?"
"But they weren't as good as you would hope they would have been because of the label itself. Okay?"
"They didn't live up to the label. Okay?"
"So, here's what I might do. Uh, I might serve a Wamit Pinot Noir."
"Okay."
"Why ask me? Wam. This would be Wamit Valley in Oregon."
"Okay."
"Because right here in our whole of the universe, we have the Wamit meteorite."
"Wa! Look at that."
"Which was found in Wamit, Oregon."
"Okay."
"We don't think it hit there. We think it fell in Canada on a glacier and then it didn't like the healthcare. It migrated. So, so it came down to Oregon."
"Yeah, glaciers never go north. They always go, right? So, it brought the it brought the the reason why we think that there was no impact where where it was. So, then we think it just got plunked down there. But if we want to tell the story of the cosmos, meteors hitting planets."
"Can't beat that. It took out the dinosaurs, but it pried open an ecological niche for us, enabling our mammalian ancestors to aspire to evolve into something other than food."
"Cuz that's all we were."
"All mammals."
"Snacks."
"That's right. Snacks."
"Snacks."
"The dinosaurs were just like, 'If there was a god, I would thank it right now because this thing is delicious.'"
"So, so I think that tells a big story in a in a very simple way. Yeah."
"At least our universe being alive within it and not coexisting with the dinosaurs at the same time."
"But when you think about it, that makes sense because even the seeding of everything comes out of something else exploding and the meteors deliver."
"Right."
"Base ingredients. We found amino acids on meteorites and other organic molecules."
"So I would I would have a Wamit Pinot Noir tasting, I think. And Pinot Noir is their feature grape."
"Of course. That's a great for."
"And you got to love a Pinot Noir. And by the way, Oregon Pinot Noir. They did the right thing in Oregon. They were like, you know what? Let's just do one thing really well."
"And you know you know how they arrived at that."
"No, I don't."
"They looked at a map and say, we're about the same latitude as Burgundy. There you go. Maybe we can do what they do. Do what they do. Now, let's go get some soil from Burgundy. Let's go get Kimian soil."
"Yeah, we need that."
"So, that would be my easy out on that. But you know what else I would do?"
"What?"
"I would bring in a bottle of Dom Pérignon."
"Oh, sparkles."
"Sparkles. Okay. Because the Dom himself was rumored to have said upon his accidental double fermentation of the yeast in his white wine, right? Which led to the effervescence, which led to the ef because the first fer the first fermentation gives you the the alcohol and the second round it get you get the the CO2. Okay."
"He tastes it, stumbles on it, cuz he's trying to make a white wine. Stumbles on it and says, 'I believe I'm tasting the stars.'"
"Look at that."
"So now we get the meteorites and we get the stars. Look at that in there."
"There we go."
"And we got to throw in an Italian something from Tuscany."
"Okay."
"Really? A Super Tuscan."
"Okay."
"Let's say because then while we sip that, we can quote Galileo."
"Ah."
"All right. Galileo. Who said."
"I'm high as hell right now."
"That's what Galileo said."
"Is that what he said?"
"He said, 'This wine got me rocked, baby. I am so high.'"
"So, so he said the sun keeps their orbit, keeps the planets in orbit on their appointed paths, yet it somehow manages to ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do."
"Oo."
"That's a mic drop right there."
"That's good."
"That's some sun worship right there. I like it."
"No, I think I paraphrased that a little, but it's a great It's a great line. So you get a a Tuscan wine from Italy."
"So that's your Galileo."
"Yeah. And you get a French sparkler, champion. There's your stars. And then we get a Pinot Noir. That's the whole universe right there."
"And there's your tasting. Yeah. What a great What a nice question there."
"Thank you, Kevin. That was great for staying on brand."
"Absolutely."
"That was good stuff. So um how how much is that? Australius."
"The Astralis."
"Astralis. Now, Astralis probably retail, you're probably looking $600."
"Wait, $600? Is that Was it that much?"
"That's a lot of money."
"That's okay. I remember when it was a little cheaper than that."
"That's cuz you bought it a long time ago."
"At the time. Yes."
"Yeah. He bought it a long time ago. Yeah. He's got a big seller in the basement."
"It cost real money. It's tons of wine."
"It's the flagship wine of that winemaker. Yeah."
"Yeah."
"So, you got any of your in your seller?"
"I a couple. Yeah. But I bought a long I didn't pay $600."
"Oh, that's Well, you don't like Well, I mean, but you buy stuff instead."
"I have I have two bottles left from '05 and '06."
"05. Wow."
"So, I got they got a couple years."
"What year was yours?"
"They can hold. Uh, this one's a 2011."
"Oh, yeah. Okay."
"Oh, so yours is like $1,300."
"It can hold."
"If I put it back on the market."
"Yeah. $1,300."
"I don't do it to sell it. I do it to."
"I know what you're doing it for."
"All right, Kevin. Thank you, dude."
"Yeah, man. That was good stuff."
"All right. Ilay. That's what we got to get."
"Cheers."
"We got to get some Sarra. All right."
"Okay."