Ancient Scroll Found In New York May Have Been Written by Jesus

Hello everyone. Many of my listeners know that we are in the midst of a major paradigm shift with respect to the narrative of history. Evidence continues to accumulate that the truth of our human past may be dramatically different than the textbook version that has dominated academic thinking for more than a century. Science and scholarship advance by a willingness to ask questions and to challenge entrenched dogmas. In the quest for alternative interpretations, we might sometimes be led astray down dead-end paths and at other times inadvertently come upon evidence that opens whole new vistas of thought. I would request of you to emulate my approach to controversial material, to neither uncritically accept or impulsively reject on the basis that it may contradict prevailing narratives of history. Scott Walter, a friend and fellow researcher that I recently interviewed, has presented a body of research that undoubtedly fits the definition of controversial. I make no claims as to the authenticity of this material, only that I do believe that Scott is a man of integrity who would not deliberately perpetrate a falsehood or knowingly promote a hoax. Some of the material presented by Scott in this interview does have independent support from other sources, some of which I will address in future podcasts. One factor that seems to set this material apart from the typical historical scholarship is that it bridges the realms of science, religion, and even politics. To partisans and true believers of whatever inclination, it will likely prove to be disconcerting. In the meantime, always remember the council of William Morris Davis, the founding father of geomorphology, who in 1926 admonished his colleagues that what appears outrageous today may turn out to be mainstream tomorrow. So keep an open mind.

>> All right, RANDALL.

>> SCOTT.

>> HOW ARE YOU, BUDDY?

>> WHERE DID YOU JUST

>> HE DISAPPEARED. IT JUST SHOWED UP.

>> THIS IS THE BEST WAY. someone when they're off guard, you're going to get a genuine, honest response. That's what I want from you.

>> You caught me off guard here. I'm sitting here thinking, "Yeah, how peaceful and quiet it is here this afternoon." And then here you are.

>> That shit's over, baby. Okay.

>> Okay.

>> All right. So, here's the deal. We just recently told everybody about the Yeshua scroll that we found back in August of 2025. And so seriously, what I would like to do here is I would like to share the scroll with you. I want to tell you about how we found it, how we decoded it, what it says, and then I want to get your feedback on some of the aspects of what it says.

>> That sounds like a good game plan to me.

>> Okay. Well, before we do that, however, you got to earn it. And the way you're going to earn it is with uh a little background information, a little context to help you understand what this thing is and how we got to this point.

>> How we got to this point is always valuable.

>> Okay. So, first off, um, let me just go back to the beginning because there's a piece that's very important that connects directly with the scroll and its contents, but it actually started at the very beginning when Don Rue, Bill Jackson, and some of their other friends were scuba diving off Bannerman Island looking for munitions that had been blown into the water that they could salvage and get money. This was back in 1968. Uh Don went over to the east shore of the Hudson River where stuff got blown over to the shoreline and he found a decorative ornament that was in the flower gardens of uh Mrs. Bannerman and that got blown over to the shore. Don realized and he knew that Bill Jackson, his best friend's wife, Muriel, was also a gardener. So he gave these two ornaments to her.

>> These ornaments were in the river.

>> They were on the shore. They got blown. Yeah. Right on the shoreline of the river.

>> Okay. Like you think they were deposit there like during a flood or

>> No, when they when the Francis Bannerman was an arms dealer.

>> Okay.

>> And so he started there and on Banaman Island sometime in the 1800s right before the Civil War. Don't quote me on the exact dates, but I know he was selling munitions to both the North and the South. Became very wealthy. His son then was selling munitions uh to whoever would buy leading up to World War I.

>> Okay.

>> He died in 1916 and the family was fighting over the estate is my understanding and nobody took over the island and it fell into disrepair. In 1918 there was an explosion of the stored munitions there.

>> On the island.

>> On the island it got blown into the river.

>> And Okay. Okay. So the island is closest to the east bank. It's only about a quarter mile if that from the island to the eastern shore of the Hudson River. That's where Don was looking for artifacts and found these decorative ornaments.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> So the decorative ornaments were on the island.

>> They were on the island, but they got blown off during the explosion.

>> Okay.

>> Make sense?

>> Yeah, I think I got the picture now.

>> Okay.

>> So are the westerly winds is that what kind of moved? So they were they on the bottom of the water and

>> No, they were on the shore. He was walking along the shore. In fact, Janet and I interviewed him standing at that very spot. I said, "Where did you find this?" He took us right there. So it was

>> So the munitions plant was on the island. It blew up and these things ended up

>> On the shoreline.

>> On the shoreline. Okay.

>> Now remember this this explosion happened. They found this stuff in '68. That happened in 18. This is 50 years later.

>> So this stuff has been laying there all the time.

>> Been laying there the whole time.

>> Okay.

>> So, anyway, so he gives these to uh Bill Jackson's wife, Muriel, and she installed them in her own garden.

>> In 1969, the following year,

>> their 5-year-old son, Mark, is playing in the garden, and he grabs one of these ornaments and it breaks off and it hits the ground and breaks open. Inside, they found two things. One was this brass disc right here.

>> Can I hold it?

>> You sure can.

>> Heavy.

>> That's dense.

>> It's very Well, it's lined with lead on the inside.

>> Oh, well, no wonder it's Yeah. That's amazing.

>> Pretty crazy, huh?

>> Yeah.

>> Now, what you do is you take a little pin and then you pop this and there's a little rod. I don't know if this will work or not, but

>> This little There's

>> That's the little release right there. And then you pop it.

>> You push it there. Let's see if I can hit that. Yeah,

>> you were missing it by about a quarter inch. There you go.

>> Oh, that thing's in there hard. We need to pop it. It's It's stuck in there pretty good. We don't need to open it right now. But anyway, this thing opens.

>> Okay.

>> And inside there were four metal inserts. And on one of the inserts was etched the word Antiora. Aeora. Have you heard that word before?

>> Yes. And don't ask me where. Um. Yes, I have.

>> Well, actually, there's a there's a town in upstate New York named Antiora. But Antiora is the old name for North America going back 2,000 years. And that it was that word that was etched on one of the metal inserts inside of this that led Bill Jackson to go to France to meet with uh a friend of his bosses, Dan Spartan. His father served in World War II with a guy from France who was part of the French resistance. And after the war, he opened up a rare bookstore in France. Spartan gave Jackson the information. He went to this guy. He bought a Bible for Muriel and he bought a booklet that was published in 1715 that basically was about Native American words and European languages.

>> American

>> Native American word

>> North America

>> For North America. That's what they called North America. So in this book it had two authors. One was Ben Venudo and the other was Roshvakold. Now the rovold name, you know what ro means in French, right?

>> Rock.

>> It means rock.

>> Yeah,

>> exactly. Um, anyway, so what Jackson did is he traced the descendants of both authors and he met with descendants of both of them.

>> Wait, who did this now?

>> Bill Jackson.

>> That's Bill Jackson.

>> Bill Jackson, the guy.

>> Now, Bill Jackson and Don Rue were they they were friends.

>> They were best friends.

>> Okay. They were best friends.

>> Best friends. They worked for the agency and one and they lived in New York. Um, and that's where and they would go on weekends and do things like scuba diving the river looking for munitions and and you know pawning it back in in uh in the Bronx. Right.

>> Okay.

>> So, okay.

>> So, the other author was Ben Venudo and he traced that descendant to Rome and he was the one that had the Cremona document. Now, he found this guy in 1971 and what he did was he showed him the document translated and basically what that document talked about was a Templar mission that left uh

>> That would be the Knights of the Temple.

>> The Knights of the Temple.

>> Yeah. Um, in 1177 they left England, went to Denmark and got the navigator that brought them over to North America. Her name was Altamara.

>> Altamara, the navigator that brought them over to North

>> Brought them over. She was indigenous and the reason she knew how to get back is because she had come from there and ended up in the Danish court.

>> How did she end up there? Well, because the Templars had been there before that and that's why they went there because they knew she was there. But somebody had to marry her in the fleet that he was in. Well, Lionel Dewald, let's see, who was it? No, Ralph Duttley. Ralph Duttley was the leader of this expedition. They had six Templar knights and 144 men and women on six ships that traveled from England to Denmark. They got Altara there. Then they came over to North America. Ultimately, their goal was to travel to a place called the Temple of the Goddess in the Catskill Mountains, specifically on what is now called Hunter Mountain. This is up in the Catskill Mountains of upstate New York. At the temple of the goddess were ancient biblical era scrolls from Europe that had been hidden in North America sometime before the 10th century. We don't know now. His mission was to go over there and recover those documents and bring them back to Europe. On the way there, they lost one of their ships when they were going around Newfoundland and they hit rocks. They couldn't salvage it. They offloaded everything to the other five ships. They towed it out and scuttled it.

>> So that ship that was stranded up on the on land on the island. Is that right?

>> They Well, they limped to shore.

>> They offloaded everything. Then they towed it out and they sunk it because they didn't want anyone to know that they were there.

>> Of course, this is before long before Columbus, so why would they worry, right? Well, because a lot of people were going there, apparently. In any case, Jackson focused on that part of the document and what he said was, "If you will give me this piece, I will I want to verify this story and then I'll come back." And that's what he did. So, this notebook right here is Don's notebook. Remember, Don never married, never had a family. He was always available. So, Bill Jackson would say, "Hey, Don, I want to go to Newf Finland. I want to go scuba diving and I want you to go with me." And Don tells the story and he says, "And then he said the magic words, I'll pay."

>> Oh.

>> So, so they went up there with the idea of trying to locate a 12th century sunken Templar ship and they found it.

>> No, they found it. Now in this book, I know I can sense the skepticism. I was skeptical, too. 32471 1971 BJ called wants to go to Newfoundland this summer. Why misses to take kids to Ireland for relatives? Magic works. He will pay. So this is this is what's initiating this trip to go

>> Explore for this sunken Templar ship.

>> When Don did this, he had no idea what was going on. Bill never told him.

>> Okay. So So this is Bill. This is Bill writing this.

>> No, this is Don.

>> This is Don. So Bill

>> BJ is Bill Jackson.

>> Bill Jackson. And so he Don is making a note that

>> He will pay.

>> He'll pay.

>> He'll pay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. So then he takes copious notes about their trip. Okay. And here in Black Inc. 2010, Lavali Aviation and School there. Now, he's even up making updates as things go along.

>> But he talks about their whole trip in detail.

>> Mhm.

>> With Twler. Uh, back to Hall in Fishnets, left side marina. We go out in Placentia Bay. First dive, 9:45 a.m. Water temp 40 to 44 degrees, wet suits, full uh head masks, and he he lists the whole thing. Second dive, third dive, fourth dive, fifth dive, uses device he saw a picture of in book. What book? Looks like boat, horn, picks points on shore. So he's triangulating and actually they have we have a map in the Cremona document of the triangulation of where the ship went down. So then they started pulling up pieces of the ship. This is the mast. This is part of the deck. There was a brass strap around a stone right here. We have pictures of that stone. They found three wood pieces. Ship's keel. See diagram below. There's a diagram of the ship's

>> Keel.

>> See that?

>> How deep was it?

>> About 30 35 ft. It wasn't very deep.

>> Okay.

>> There's the strap. These are carvings that were on the stone. That's Tenit, the ancient Phoenician goddess Tanite. And actually with her arms up like that,

>> It's Virgo.

>> Oh,

>> And that's the five-pedal rose of uh that's a symbol of the Magdalene tradition. Bill is happy. No Muriel complaints now. Bill says he thinks the top stone design is something called a tenit, ancient seafaring goddess. Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. And he's got all these notes. Then they went over to Newfoundland. They found some more stuff. They found this stone and there was an artifact under that because the document told them where to go. So anyway, the long story short here, they keep going. Sleep slept well. Uh tiring trip mosquitoes ate well though most of our time was on the water or in the car. Bill told me that Doc he is translating the one he got in Italy told of a voyage to America in se 1177879 question mark shipwreck near where we found mast and keel told of a rescue from sister ship on land visible from sinking Newfoundland. The survivor left sign of there being there under ancient anchor stone. He got the brass bar under on pistol. I'm skeptical.

>> The anchor stone.

>> That's this round stone that was on um

>> And it has a hole in it.

>> It's well it's a big I've got pictures of it in here. It's they took pictures. It's like a it looks like a a mill grinding stone,

>> But it's thinner. It's not quite, you know, they're usually pretty thick. It's more like that, but it was on the shore and they flipped it over and he found what was the the token that was left underneath it.

>> Okay.

>> Here's another drawing of part of the ship or of the mast. And there's more in this book later that has to do with some of his missions. Um, these are some coded alphabets. Um, some of this stuff I know he'd be pissed. Vatican restorationist Luigi Famiglia sold BJ three documents 1979, 1980, 1981. Encrypted anagrams per Dr. Arthur Elen 1982. So he bought more stuff afterwards. Anyway, let's get back to the story. So he goes to Newf Finland. They find the ship that's talked about in the document that proved to Jackson that the story was true. He goes back to Rome

>> To meet with Ben Bonudo and purchased the document. That's how he got the document.

>> Um, so we'll come back to the document later, but that's that's how he got it. So he got it in 1971. Okay.

>> This was inside the ornament. But there was something else that was inside the ornament that is germane to why I'm here today.

>> It was a clay tube about 4 in long. That's how they described it with an inch in diameter that was sealed in beeswax on both sides. When they opened it, inside were two lambskin parchments. This is one of them. Now, the reason we have photographs is because Bill Jackson took photographs of them, but he sold this to the Vatican eventually in 1994.

>> So, so we don't have these. Do you see the wax seal down here?

>> This is Theban script. That is the ancient script that the Templars would typically use.

>> Theban t-h-e-b-a-n

>> And this is the other one. So, we also have documentation from Bill Jackson's estate that he gave to Don when Mark Jackson, in 2004, he's now an adult, signed an agreement with Don to turn over all of his dad's research. And in that research were a series of corresponding letters back and forth between the cryptographer that was in the agency with Bill and Don and Dan, a guy named Dave Ryan. He was the cryptographer and the computer expert. Right.

>> Okay.

>> And he was the one that was able with the help of a guy he was corresponding with in Portugal. This is a one-to-one letter substitution. Each of these symbols represents a letter.

>> Mhm.

>> So they were able to convert it, you know, into

>> Uh, you know, Roman letters.

>> Uh-huh.

>> And then

>> One of them was, it's the same message twice. One in French, one in Portuguese. That's why he was corresponding with the guy from Portugal.

>> And they eventually

>> Uh, translated after they decoded it into English. And I want to read to you what it says. Okay. Now, this is heretical.

>> And this document is something that the Vatican would definitely want to have. And they bought it and they paid a lot of money for it from Bill. But here's what it says. And Misha, the daughter of Elizabeth, sister of John the Baptist, of the River Jordan, took the red wine with the poppy in it, having been there for seven days, and gave it to the soldiers, saying, "A gift from the Arya, Joseph,

>> Who I think was Jesus's cousin, right?

>> Uncle, I believe. Or

>> Uncle. Yeah. Something like that. Don't quote me because I'm not a biblical expert by any means.

>> I think some scholars have said he could have been his uncle.

>> Okay.

>> But I don't know if that's everybody agrees with that or

>> Then came Ishmael, the brother of Benjamin and the Magdalia, Mary Magdalene,

>> Of course. Now, what's interesting is I've talked to some biblical scholars and they've said they didn't know that Mary Magdalene, they didn't know the name of her family members, her siblings, and this names two of them,

>> Ishmael and Benjamin. I don't know if that's true or not. We would have to have a biblical scholar verify that, but apparently these are new names.

>> Uh-huh.

>> The soldiers are asleep. They drugged them with poppy.

>> Oh, okay. Remember

>> Took the wine with the poppy in it,

>> Gave it to the soldiers. Now they're sleeping, so they drugged him.

>> They took him out and put him on a stretcher.

>> Him.

>> You know who this is?

>> I can guess.

>> Yep. She said, "Fold the headcloth alone. We lift up Jesus and took him to sleep with his ancestors, but Ishmael with his new beard stayed." So they subbed him out apparently. We have destroyed all trace of our being here. We are unclean. We fled Jerusalem and all of Judea was against us. We fled to the north always. Dendra. Now we fled to the north will come into play in some documents we're going to show you in a little bit.

>> All right. We think the north is France and ultimately they went to Scotland.

>> So that would be beyond the reach of the Romans at that time.

>> So I don't know who thunder is. It says always Thundra. But this basically says that they took Jesus out of the tomb, substituted somebody else. So when the soldiers woke up, they probably went, "Oh shit." Uh-huh.

>> We're [ __ ] Uh, yeah. This is him. This is him right here.

>> I mean, I don't know.

>> Well, that would make sense.

>> Something like that.

>> But normally when you say, and again, I just I don't want to come across as an expert because I don't know this for sure. But if you are unclean as a Jew at that time, isn't that because you're handling a dead body or what you think is a dead body?

>> Mhm.

>> Hold that thought. Okay, that's a very important thing I just said.

>> When we get to the scroll

>> Now, you'll know. You'll know why I said it.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. So, I think the next best thing is there's a whole bunch of of things that have happened over the course of the last since 2017. And and essentially what's happened is Don worked with a bunch of people in this agency that Bill was a part of and Spartan was a part of. They took blood oaths and during CO Don shared over 500 pages of reports, agency reports. Every page has top secret at the top. They were working for our government. They were hired to do certain missions for our government by military generals. They that's who they were getting their orders from. A lot of trafficking stuff, a lot of getting bad guys in compromising positions, very much like Jeffrey Epstein, using women uh in sexual scenarios to get people compromised.

>> Um, they killed people and some of those people killed them. So, this was not kidding around stuff that Don and Bill were involved in. Um, but when I read these reports, I came away feeling like these guys are American heroes. Um, they knew when they took on this work, they were going to be paid for it. They never expected any gratitude or recognition. They just did their jobs. Um, and I feel privileged, frankly, to uh um to have this information shared with us to the personal level that Donna has shared it with us.

>> So, I want to be respectful of his work, but um I I want people to understand what he was doing and what Bill was doing. So what we've in 1994, Bill realized as a medical doctor that he was dying of arterial sclerosis and Parkinson's disease.

>> And so he knew he didn't have long earth.

>> Okay?

>> And so that's when he sold the document. Now, when we first found out about that, we were very upset like what the the Vatican really that's the last place that we would have wanted him to do that. But we also found out in 2013 when one of his colleagues in the agency realized that Bill had given him some rolls of 35mm film that had not yet been developed. That colleague asked Don if he wanted that film and Don said, "Well, of course I do." And he developed it and it was pictures that Bill Jackson had taken of everything he sold to the Vatican.

>> So we have it all.

>> Oh, okay. So, we didn't know that. Then in 2017, people in the agency that he worked with started to pass away. And then he would get um messages from the executives of their estates saying, um, this person has something for you. And when Don would get those calls, he would call Janet and I and we'd say, don't open it. And we'd jump in the car, we would drive to New York and we would open it with him and record all this.

>> Okay?

>> And and there were always letters in there and the letters were from the deedent talking about Bill gave me this and he wanted me to give this to you upon my death.

>> Oh, okay. So, a lot of these documents I'm going to share with you are those people who passed

>> And what they left for Dawn.

>> And over the past since 2017, I would say seven or eight people have died,

>> Including the most recent one in June of 2025 when Don called me literally as I was speaking at the cosmic summit.

>> Oh, really?

>> Yes. It was it because when I got off, I looked at my phone and Don had called. So anyway, um so I just want to give you the context and I can't remember who exactly left what. Um it'll probably come to me, but it may not. So um so I think the next thing I want to show you, this is kind of a cool page right here because this is drawings of the underground project as they call it. It's in French here.

>> Sutter

>> At Oak Island.

>> Oh, really?

>> So, these this is the tunnel system under Oak Island.

>> I Yeah. And frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but there's something else on this page.

>> Well, I think maybe we should a project. We should duplicate this.

>> Well,

>> Out in my backyard.

>> Okay. Now, you ready for this?

>> Well,

>> Did you see the movie National Treasure? Long time ago.

>> Do you remember when they had the Declaration of Independence and they put lemon juice on it and then they heated it up and they got a hidden message?

>> Yeah, vaguely. Yeah, that's I kind of remember that now. Yeah.

>> They did the exact same thing with a bunch of these documents. And at one point they were using lemon juice and heat, but one of the maps that they had burned up and they were taking pictures as they were heating it up to catch what would light up because once it cools down then it goes it disappears again. And they were heating it up with a hair dryer and it it ignited and it and they have pictures of it in flames.

>> Now who this is Bill

>> Bill Jackson and whoever he was working with. He was working.

>> Probably Dave Ryan. Okay. You ready for this?

>> Uh,

>> Flip it over.

>> Okay.

>> Oh, interesting. There's a map. It looks like

>> Look at the top.

>> The Read it out loud.

>> The skull of Yeshua. The skull of Yeshua. What? So that's so this is a map showing where the skull of Yeshua

>> Yep.

>> Is that this I'm that's okay. That's the implication here.

>> Are you okay, brother? Are you okay?

>> That's interesting. Now that is very interesting.

>> Yeah. Okay. So, we didn't know about this. Don had this page for quite a while before he ever put the black light on it. Then he calls and says, "Scott, YOU KNOW THOSE PAGE WITH the mechanisms?" I said, "Yeah, there's invisible message there." And you have to understand, Don, I can't not do his voice. I just can't I I can't not do it. I can't not do it.

>> Okay?

>> But you have to understand, Don is basically a born again Christian.

>> He's struggling with all of this.

>> There's a part of him that struggles, and there's a part of him that can separate it very easily and just get down to business. Uh-huh.

>> And that's what we've done. So I Let me explain to you. Flip it over and I'll explain to you a little bit what's going on. Okay. So this is an island.

>> Yes.

>> That's what I would have inferred.

>> And this is another island.

>> Mhm.

>> No, this is the lake. These are the islands. This is pointing to an island that we have been on. And this is measurements. I'm not sure that scale. I haven't spent a lot of time looking at it, but I know where this island is and I know where this one is.

>> And actually, that island is right next to that one. And we will see more. Okay. So, I just want to show you that. Now, not only is there a scroll, but there is a skull. Now, let's just unpack this for a sec. Okay. If you recall in my book Akenatan to the Founding Fathers,

>> Uh, I know you read it cover to cover. You have it memorized, I'm sure. At the very end, one of the things I talk about is the Telpia tomb.

>> Uh-huh.

>> And that's where the seven individuals

>> Uh, where there were 10 individuals, 10 ashu, seven inscribed with names. Yes,

>> That's what Okay. Seven inscribed with names. Yeah.

>> Six in Aramaic, one in Greek. And the names are Yeshua, Jesus, son of Joseph. James, son of Joseph,

>> Brother of Jesus.

>> Uh, Joseph, Matthew, Maria, Judah, son of Jesus. Those are the six names uh, inscribed in Aramaic, and they're scratched right on the side of the boxes. We've we've looked at them. We've seen them. Um, and then the seventh one is in Greek says Marynne the mara. The mara is a title of honor as in lord, master or queen.

>> Okay.

>> Um, and of the 4,000 or so oushuaries that have been discovered in Jerusalem that are in the Israeli Antiquities Archives, only six have that title, the mara. Three are male. This is the third one that's female, which is interesting. So apparently in this tomb that was discovered in 1980, you have Jesus, his wife Mary Magdalene, and their son Judah together with other family members. And who knows who the other three are that are not inscribed with names. So I wrote about this in in great detail uh because there's a number of symbolic uh aspects to this um include and and and actual things factual things that are quite interesting from a geological standpoint. Now, a first-century tomb. Well, first of all, the Ashuary culture was the Essene tradition.

>> That was Jesus's people.

>> And when the Romans attacked the Jews in Jerusalem in 70 AD or so,

>> That practice ended. So when they find one of these tombs in Jerusalem, it dates to the first century and nowhere else because it only existed for about a hundred years.

>> So we know this is the right time period. But what happened over the centuries is somebody entered that tomb in the historical past about 900 years ago. And what happened 900 years ago in Jerusalem?

>> Let me think. 900 years ago. What did happen in Jerusalem 900 years ago?

>> First Crusade.

>> Crusade. Well, yeah. Okay. I was about to say the crusade.

>> Okay. And who fought uh in the First Crusade?

>> Well, I would believe the Templars.

>> The Templars.

>> And they established their base of operations in Jerusalem. And they installed their first Grandmaster, Hugh Deans.

>> That was in 1118. Now what I wrote about in the book and I stand behind because I know it's true is you know the true purpose of the Templar's mission in Jerusalem was not to capture the Holy Land for Christendom right for the church. It was to establish a base of operations in the region so they could go into Lebanon, go into Turkey, go into Egypt and round up stuff that they knew was there waiting for them.

>> And we're talking about uh documents, we're talking about treasure, we're talking about technology, we're talking about maps, remains of important people.

>> Mhm.

>> And that includes the Telpia tomb. In fact, what they were looking for in the Telpia tomb were the remains of their ancestors, both ideological and biological.

>> Was there a connection between the Templars and the Meavvenians?

>> Of course.

>> Okay.

>> The vine of Mary, right? That's what Maravvenian means. Absolutely.

>> Okay. Wow.

>> So, so they took the bones and what happened is 900 years ago when they went into the tomb to collect the bones of their ancestors, a lot of people don't know this. A lot of people don't even know about the tomb, but the people that did the archaeologists that did the collection uh documented that all that was in these ashuaries were bone fragments and splinters.

>> Mhm.

>> The main bones were gone because the Templars took them. And think about this. The Templars became immensely wealthy and powerful. And essentially, the popes really had no jurisdiction over them. They could do whatever they want.

>> And that begs the question, why? Why did that happen? What was it that they had? What secrets did they know? What artifacts did they have? What remains? Did they have the skull of Yeshua? If you've got the skull of Jesus, that's pretty powerful leverage over the church, isn't it?

>> So, here we're seeing that the Templars had it in addition to the skull of John the Baptist and Mary Magdalene. But I digress. So, I'm just trying to give you a little bit of context.

>> Mhm.

>> So now I think we want to go to

>> Quick question. Did the Templars bring these they came brought these back to France initially? I'm guessing

>> They

>> And then some would have some would have been secreted out of France at some point.

>> At Yeah. At Well, we know that one of the relics, probably the skull of John the Baptist, came over uh in 1307.

>> Okay.

>> And probably the skull of Yeshua, but they kept that very quiet. But we hear a lot about Yeshua in the later documents that came to Don. A lot.

>> Not to go off too much, but is it possible that the Templars could have stashed something at Reno Chateau?

>> Maybe on the way.

>> Mhm.

>> Yeah, that's Yeah, we don't we don't know exactly the details. That doesn't talk about the details of the movement of stuff, you know, prior to 1307. Everything that we have is post 1307. And that actually makes sense because we have one document that tells us what the Grandmaster ordered,

>> What what the plan was. Do you want me to read that one to you?

>> Well, I don't want to whatever the narrative.

>> Well, I think it it helps it's going to help you with with context.

>> Okay.

>> This one says, and this was message number one that came from Roberta. Roberta was a family member uh who was um new Bill Jackson. And I'll leave it at that. Oh,

>> Okay.

>> The power of God is within you. This is the final writing of this report. First done in 1308 and revised three times till 1908. So what the Templars were doing was updating their records every 150 years or so. The last update was done in 1908 by a guy by the name of Kifus Lucinius Jarbo. That's a pseudonym. That's not his real name,

>> But he So all these documents that you're seeing I'm showing you, those were done in 1908

>> By one by one guy. The final putting of the relic is told here, the skull in 1304. So remember how we talk about that the Templars knew that something was going to happen on October 13th of 1307. They were prepared.

>> They knew as far back as 1304

>> Uh, that that Phipe was planning

>> Something was going to happen.

>> Yeah. In 1304, Louie D. Grammort by order of Grandmaster Jacqu de Mole arranged for three ships to embark from Lorishelle to local of Ramsay and point to air and leaf the Sadel. That's uh in the Isle of Man. Now, Saddle is an abbey in western Scotland

>> On um one of the points there and directly across the FTH, which is the bay, they call it a fur over in Scotland, there is a cave called King's Cave. And what's interesting about that cave, I've been to it a few times, the entrance is actually angled away from the shoreline. And the first time I went there, it's a three and a half mile hike all the way around. You go to the caves and you come back up. There's a there was a sign and I walk up and I see a picture of Robert the Bruce and I'm like, "Robert the Bruce, what the hell was he doing here?" Robert the Bruce visited King's Caves three months before the put down. Three months. Remember, remember he had already been excommunicated from the church. He was obviously at odds with the crown.

>> So, he didn't give a [ __ ]. And so, it would have been perfect for the Templars to escape and go to Scotland. Now later on we find out in these same documents or actually no in the um Sinclair Williams journals that you read that the Templars actually did serve at the Battle of Bannockburn and helped turn the battle over to the Scots, which was the greatest history

>> Uh, in the history of Scotland and obviously Robert the Bruce is a hero and the Templars then stayed and the Scottish Earls were obligated to protect them and help them for their service at Bannockburn until they could bring them over to North America, but that's another story. So, what we're seeing here is it's telling us where those ships went. They went to Scotland.

>> Mhm.

>> And we know where they hid the treasure and it's just it all connects perfectly.

>> They hid the treasure in the caves.

>> In the caves. Yeah. But eventually they they were moved to uh Kilwinning. Uh, and that's there's an abbey there and there's a uh Masonic lodge there now. I've visited it's amazing. But the ruins of Kilwinning are still there and there's all kinds of rumors of treasures being there and underground tunnels and that happened. And then they eventually went to William's Caves on the north side of the Firth of Forth on the southern shore is where Edinburgh, Scotland is. So that's in Scotland. And directly above those caves uh is the castle and they were the ones that were involved in bringing the treasures over. All this stuff fits together like a beautiful digress. Yeah.

>> Are you a golfer?

>> Um I like golf but golf doesn't like me.

>> Well, the reason I asked is when I was interested in the origins of golf and it traces back to the 1300s. The Firth of Forth was the first known golf game.

>> Oh, is that right?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Well, there's golf courses there now. Links courses, right?

>> Yeah, I'm not surprised.

>> Well, could be a connection there.

>> There could be. All right, so let me keep reading here. Um, with the pilot, navigator, Francisco DeLeon. They embarked to Harris West for designer architect Plet Justinian Ro. So, this goes all the way back to the 1300s. The Ro family just keeps showing up in this

>> In this story all the time.

>> Set sail March 21st for the brethren in northern the Northland. That's Scotland. This is the account of the journey and the 300-year project to secure the relic now held by Lionel Dewald III. Lionel Dewaldron I was on that 1177 ship that came over to get the documents. So this is his descendant. 44 years old aboard the Gasbard also captained by Phipe D. Arman with a crew of 56 and one chest of jewels and jewelry with the relic. Phipe de Arman relative of Pierre in Latore. That's the name of the ship, the Guardian is what that means in Italian. With a crew of 74 and three chests of gold and silver bars. He also carries Ibraham Muhammad El Zakara, maker of structure. He's the one that designed this and he's the one that oversaw construction of the Newport Tower.

>> Okay.

>> He was Muslim.

>> I love that.

>> Okay.

>> Well, from the name, I would guess he was Muslim. Yeah. Well, do you think that the church would have a Muslim architect?

>> Good question. I mean, probably not out for public consumption, but maybe behind the scenes they were conferring with

>> Well, this isn't behind the scenes. This is right up front. The Templars would take any and all.

>> Any and all. Right. Right. Right.

>> That's what masonry does to this day. So, that's an interesting point. Maker of structure, Captain Wanda Alvarez from Garda, Portugal in Lavalian. That's the ship he was in with chart maker Sodomman Jarbo, son of Lucinius and a crew of 68 with five chests of gold and silver coin completes the trio. They arrive at the observatory.

>> And that sounds like it could be

>> The Newport Tower.

>> Mhm.

>> June 21st and leave July 21st for the land of the Wasuda and the Mickey Max. So they went north up to Nova Scotia. That's where the Migma. They say Mickey, but it's pronounced Migama. That's how they pronounce their own name.

>> Okay. So um so what we learn from that is that the relic the skull was brought to North America in 1307. So now this or was brought to Scotland and then to America sometime after 1395. So, at one point about three years ago, Don called me and he said, "I want you to come out here. I have something to show you, but I'm not going to show you um until we're you're here in person."

>> Okay.

>> So, I I go out there and then he says, "We're going to go to this place." Remember that invisible map?

>> Yeah. We went to that place and we took a float plane and we flew in because there's no roads, there's no houses, there's no cabins. This is way up in the Adirondacks. You can hike in there, but you you can't drive there. And so we took we rented a plane and we flew in. They dropped us off. The guy had canoes parked there and we took the canoes and we paddled to this island. And then once the plane took off and left us and we told him to come back in five hours, Don pulled this out of his and showed me that.

>> And this is a cross-section. It's showing 18 in deep.

>> Yes.

>> Uh, to the bottom of the pit, it's showing 12 in deep to a little looks like a little notch or a terrace there. That is

>> Stone.

>> A stone. That's a stone right there. Okay. So, I'm not sure what this is. Okay.

>> See this?

>> Yeah.

>> See the arrow pointing to that?

>> Yeah.

>> We found that.

>> Well, that's pretty convincing, isn't it? Uh-huh. So, we have the what looks could be uh square and compass kind of a figure.

>> Yeah. Yeah. A hooked axe. Uh-huh.

>> And then a compass that makes a compass and square on the top of the hook decks.

>> Now I'm showing you something we have not told the world yet. That symbol we have trademarked what we call that.

>> Okay.

>> The hookex covenant symbol.

>> Okay.

>> Because my interpretation of that symbol with the hookex on the bottom is Templarism.

>> Mhm. The compass and square is what?

>> Masonry.

>> Freemasonry.

>> Freemasonry.

>> And what have people in our craft argued for centuries now?

>> Well, that there's a a connection, a genetic connection, an affiliation of some kind going back. But the the problem with that has always been that Freemasonry is only officially recognized as going back to 1717. Although we have some documentation I believe of Elias Ashol is that right being being uh initiated or raised in the 1600s but there's this gap.

>> There's a gap.

>> Right.

>> Between of of documentation right.

>> Between what is now the modern craft of Freemasonry and the the Freemasons of the Middle Ages. So now what I'm getting from this is this is a major piece that closes that gap.

>> We have all kinds of documentation that talks about people being raised back in the 14th century.

>> In the 14th century.

>> 14th century. So my interpretation of this symbol is that it represents the evolution of Templarism into modern Freemasonry. And when you read the Sinclair Williams journals, there's no question that that's what happened. And when you fully digest all of these documents, you'll come away with the same thing. Now, here's I'll just show you another one that happens to be on this page.

>> Mhm.

>> There's another one that's at the bottom of this encrypted message.

>> Wait a Yeah. Same thing.

>> Yeah. Yeah, I see that. So, let's look at

>> Is that crazy or what?

>> That's pretty crazy. Now, let's see. I'm trying to Okay. So, where's the hook on here? Is this

>> Right here?

>> Oh, that that's it right there. Okay. Yeah.

>> That's a hook.

>> So, then that's what we're seeing right

>> Right there.

>> Right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Got it.

>> It's the same thing. It's a hooked axe and a and a compass and square with a circumunct on the top, which is symbolic of many things including the symbol for gold.

>> Right.

>> But it's all, you know, there's all all kinds of meanings for a circle with a dot in the middle.

>> Yes, there is.

>> So, let's go back to this page.

>> Okay. This page.

>> So, Don broke it to me that we are looking for the skull of Yeshua, of Jesus. That's what we went looking for. And so this map here tells us the dimensions.

Now. And so what we did is we paste this off and we went right in this area here. We started metal detecting and I got a hit and we dug out this.

Is there any inscriptions of any kind on it?

>> I haven't seen anything except for linear lineal striations.

That's a bullet.

>> I was going to say, is it a bullet?

>> It's a bullet.

>> Yeah, it's a bullet.

>> And it's a 22 caliber bullet.

>> Okay. Whoops.

And then immediately below that, we found this.

>> That's where you found this.

>> Yes. Now there's something else.

>> And there. Yeah. Now I can clearly see the hook.

>> Yeah, you can see it now.

>> Yeah, right there.

So that was crazy. But no skull. So guess what? The skull was moved or it was found by Bill Jackson because if you see this little thing right here

>> Mhm.

>> That's a button.

>> That's what that is.

>> A metal button which would But we don't have the button here. We have it at home. We didn't bring that button. Why didn't we bring it?

>> I don't know.

>> For it's got an American Eagle on it.

>> It's It's not old.

So, we think Bill Jackson beat us to it

>> and he moved it.

>> So, we struck out on this, but we got the bullet. I think Jackson put this bullet there and he left the stone because the stone was on top of the skull

>> according to this. And see, Bill Jackson made this map.

>> So, how would he know all these details unless he found it?

>> So, he's showing here was 18 buried 18 in deep that somebody dug a

>> hole and then this stone was placed on top of it and then he

>> with a button

>> with a button

>> so it could be located.

>> So, Bill put the button there, you think?

>> No, I think No, I think the button was He found the button. He found the button

>> because we have the button.

>> Uhhuh.

>> Don had it in his stuff. And look, Bill Jackson made this sketch.

>> Mhm.

>> But we still went and looked anyway and we found this. So I think this is Bill's calling card. And this is so appropriate for the agency he worked for.

>> A bullet.

>> Sure.

>> Wow.

>> And the metal detector.

>> Well, no. It was placed there. so we could find it again. Yeah. But this is what Bill does.

>> I know.

>> So, without going too much into the story, this is the second time Bill has left a calling card for us. The other time we found a treasure that included this little

>> And that's a legit

>> Well, that's a Templar cross.

>> Cross. Yeah,

>> sure is.

>> With the five dots.

>> Yep. There it is with the five.

>> And we found we found 23 Roman coins in this cache and two crosses. That's one of them.

>> There's another cross, but we just brought the one.

But you know what else we found that led us to that? This. Okay, geologist, I'm just gonna let you look at this and I want you to tell me what you see.

>> Okay.

>> Well, it looks to me like a variation of the square and compass. It looks like possibly a possibly a hook. Is that possibly? Um,

>> I don't remember there being a hook on this one, but

>> maybe. Yeah, I think you might be right.

>> Yeah, I mean, look at Right here.

>> But it's not as deep. But I Yeah. No, I see right here. I see it. Yeah.

>> You know, I never noticed that before.

>> Well, get a get yourself a magnifying glass.

>> Oh, Jesus. I'm sorry.

>> No pun intended.

Okay. There's something very telling about this stone. And this was at a different place. And this stone was underneath a big stone.

>> Okay.

>> But it looked out of place.

>> And Don,

>> this was on the island.

>> No, this is in a different spot. This has nothing to do with with um this place.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> It's not. It's a different place, but it's it's up in the aderondex.

>> Okay.

>> It's up there.

>> A different place. Now, when I looked at this under the microscope, I noticed something. That was made with the Dremel.

>> This?

>> Yes. That symbol on there. And you notice how it has an arrow pointing?

>> Yeah.

>> So, when this was in the ground, it was like this and we followed it and that's where we found the cash that had this cross and a bunch of other stuff.

>> Uhhuh.

>> So, Bill Jackson beat us to that, too. Bill left this and he left the coins and he left the crosses and whatever else we found. Remember

>> the bracelet. Yep. And that was Bill. Yeah. So, he's been to a lot of these places. We're walking in his footsteps in many cases, but not in all cases.

Okay. So, now let's keep going. this guy. Tell me what you see here.

>> Oh, well now is this the

>> uh some of it is.

>> Some of it is. Okay. Yeah, there's a mix of stuff here.

>> And you remember when I told you that we've we've decoded about 25 to 30 messages. I don't even know what the total is now. And everyone is done differently.

>> Uhhuh. Even if it's in theban, they'll put it in a different language or they'll it's it's never the same thing. And you'll see this is the and then you get here. What the hell is this [ __ ] Right. This is a whole different s alphabet using different symbols.

>> Mhm.

>> But then they sometimes it'll be all the sometimes it's all that. Sometimes it's a mixture. And then we have zodiac symbols every other line. Yeah, I was going to say I mean these these are symbol. Yeah. And I mean so that right there's symbol for Jupiter.

>> Well, yeah, but that's actually a letter. That's not a symbol for Jupiter. It is here.

>> It's one of these. And then you know

>> there's Venus.

>> There's Venus and uh Taurus.

>> Yeah.

>> Uh go like that. U there's one. There's

>> Capricorn.

>> Capricorn. Yep. So this is using a a zodiac code. And each one of these have to be put in line. And here's the cipher.

>> Telles. Telst.

>> Tetstee.

>> Tetlestee.

>> Do you know what that is?

>> Uh, tetlestee. Yes. I should know what that is. Is it a shrine?

>> It's It's Greek.

>> Greek. It's the last words that Jesus reportedly said on the cross.

>> Okay.

>> Which means it is complete. It is done.

>> Yeah.

>> It is finished.

>> That's a pretty cool cipher, isn't it?

>> Yeah.

>> So, remember I told you we were talking about how you do these ciphers.

>> So, what you do is you get a piece of paper and you put lines on it and you you spell out tetilstee. Mhm.

>> And then what you do is you go to the, you know, A, no. B, no. C, no. D, no. E. And there's four E or what? One, two, three. Three E.

>> Uhhuh.

>> So you take the first zodiac sign.

>> Mhm.

>> And then you go to the first E and you put it this way. Then you take the next one, you go to the second E, put that down. third E and you go through the alphabet until they're all used up. Then you read it this way.

>> That's how you decode this stuff.

>> So we have what looks like could be Aries there. Cancer. This is cancer right here, I'm guessing. Is that right?

>> I can't remember which one that is.

>> That's cancer. Yeah.

>> Okay. Now, keep in mind that Clif Lucinius Jarbo was the guy that did the last update in 1908. He's the one that made all these codes. He did all this work and and drew all the maps. So, his job at one point was to go recover certain scrolls that were hidden at the temple and taken away in the 1600s. But as they were taking them up to Montreal, they diverted and dropped off the book of the wars of the Lord and the eight Yeshua scrolls. Okay. The angel K was probably an alien told CL Y Cus the guy that did all this work to go get the book of the wars the Lord and give it back to him because the world was not ready for what was in there and to recover the scrolls. That was his mission. This talks about that mission.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. Old man Derby has died. We don't know who the hell Derby is. And his people are good to his word. They meet us at the sea of reeds. Take us in boats. Four each 40t long. We are across all in two trips. I think what they're doing is they're crossing the St. Lawrence to Montreal. what is now Montreal,

>> the place of the

>> SPIs,

>> who were from France. Then by ox carts to the next river, a barge puts us on the new shore. We meet Oia's people. K says to me, hold back the Yeshua scrolls. Choose one, burn the rest. I do. So, I'll go with the Sopescians. And then there's more to this message that's really not gerine. It's coded information and it's really not it has to do with other stuff. But that's what this message is. So, of course, when you see a big open space like that, what do you do? Grab the black light.

>> Nothing here. So, let's put that one away and move on to the next one. This guy, we didn't have this when we decoded this because these goofy letters are right here and they're numerical value and uh what the the letter is. See the hooked X?

>> Yeah. veritas vas liberabit which means the truth will set you free. Then on the back we've got a message right here and that one says let all nations be gathered and let the people be assembled. Who among them can declare this and show us former things? Let them bring forth their witnesses that they may be justified. Or let them hear and say, "It is truth and the truth will set them free." And of course, we got to do the same thing, right? We got a big open space right here.

>> Well, why don't you get the black light, Scott, and see what see if there's anything there.

>> You catch on quick, my friend. Holy cow. What? What? What? What?

>> That's okay.

>> Read it aloud.

>> The Yeshua scroll is not at our lodge. We went back to the old land and laid it in the dirt where the bear eats the moon. It is a right bite. It is a right bite.

>> Talico. Talico.

>> Now I haven't told you this but CL Y was married to an indigenous woman.

>> Okay.

>> That is his Indian name. Talico is

>> uh Mohawk for great eagle.

>> Mhm.

>> So we see Talico in a lot of these later messages. So

>> well the bear eats the moon. Could that be a astronomical reference?

>> Well Let me show you what a certain female named Janet Walter found.

>> I've heard of her.

>> Yeah.

>> See there?

>> Emperand Lake. Uh Amperand Lake. It almost looks like it could be a very very old impact scar with a

>> Oh, impact crater.

>> Yeah. You draw this and then this would be the central uplift here.

>> There was another one.

>> Do you see the bear?

>> Right here.

>> Do you see the his mouth is open?

>> His mouth is open. There's his eye. There's

>> It is a right bite. Which way is he facing?

>> Well, it looks like he's facing east

>> to the right.

>> To the right. Yeah.

>> And this you could interpret as a crescent moon, right? He's taking a bite out of the moon.

>> That's what I thought.

>> It is a right bite.

>> Okay. Yeah. Pretty convincing, right?

>> Aderondex.

>> Aderondex. But guess what?

>> That's not it.

>> I THINK

>> WELL, DARN.

>> I think it could have been there, though.

>> It may have been there in the past, but that's not where it is now. So, uh, that's a pretty good clue.

>> It's out It's out in the back in the bed of your pickup truck.

>> It is. How'd you know that? How'd you know that?

>> I saw something under the tarp there. I was wondering what it was.

All right, so now we're going to get into some really good stuff.

>> Well, yeah.

>> Now, this came to us and I just posted this picture of this guy on the internet and I said, "Can somebody help me with this?" In five minutes, somebody said, "Yeah, that's and and it turns out that he was a very interesting character." And there's the picture.

>> Yeah, there it is, John.

>> Check this out. Here we go.

>> Theophilis Daglier is his name and he was a um a very initiated brother.

>> Daglier. Yes, I've encountered his name before.

>> Okay. But what I want you to look at is look at the back of that picture.

>> What does it say?

>> He knew the wear of the cup, but not the skulls. He knew the wear of the cup, but not the skull. Or skulls. Skulls. That's plural, right?

>> Yep.

>> Of the cup. As in the chalice as in

>> it's mentioned in other places.

>> Okay.

>> But I don't want to go down that path.

>> Who? Okay. So, who wrote this on the back of this picture?

>> I'm assuming CLY did.

>> So, this guy, this guy's on the squad. He was on the squad in his time.

>> So remember, we think the skulls came over around the late 14 around 1400.

>> Okay.

>> So he would have he would have lived I think in the 1700s. I can't remember now, but um but he knew he was part of he was on the squad. There's something else on that page or on that in that little folder there.

>> Yeah. I mean, I'm looking, you know, we got we got Mars, we've got Mercury there,

>> but they're modified.

>> Uhhuh.

>> They're slightly different.

>> Slightly different.

>> Mhm. Okay. Now, I'm going to read that to you and then we're going to get real. This message is an abbreviation of this. So, this one was hard to figure out. We didn't have a key, but you see that that symbol right there? That looks like a Y, right?

>> Mhm.

>> So, we just guessed and said, "Well, maybe that first word is Yeshua."

>> Mhm.

>> It was. So, now we know what these six symbols are. And so we applied that to where they occur in the rest of the message and we were able to figure out what the words were.

>> All right?

>> And each time we got a word, we get one or two more symbols and then we would apply those and eventually you got the whole message.

>> It was actually

>> pretty good effort, I have to say. Okay. So here's the message. Now, I want to preface this by telling you that something you already know that when we did the work on the Kensington room, the most mysterious and puzzling symbol that was being used for the letter A was what I coined the hookex.

>> And obviously, it was a symbol that scholars had never seen before. So, that's a reason to say that it's fake. No, it just means you haven't seen it before. Yeah, but I digress. As we went along, we tried to understand what we thought that symbol meant. And eventually we came up with the idea that it was a symbol for their true ideology of monotheistic dualism. The idea of a single deity that had dualistic aspects that were opposite like male, female, heaven and earth, good, bad, light, dark, yin-yang. the concept of opposites that keep things in balance. Right. Right.

>> And the symbol of an X, if you chop it in half, you have a peak at the bottom, which is the sword, the phallic, the symbol for the male. On top is the the vessel, the chalice, the womb, the symbol for the female combined in an X represented that allegorical union, male, female, he heaven, and earth dualism, right? And then the hook represents the child. In this case, a daughter inside the womb of her mother representing what could be called the Holy Trinity. Right?

>> In Catholicism, they say the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And then I ask people, "What's the Holy Spirit?" And they go, "Will Spirit in you?" They don't define it. It's not well defined. Sure.

>> And then we come back and we say, "We have the father. We have the child

>> who's missing. Mama.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. So maybe that's what the Holy Trinity is. So So I've been arguing for 20 years now, over 20 years, that the hook deck symbol represents the true ideology of the Templars and their ancestors, including Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and John the Baptist. That that was the true religion that they were teaching. And I've been saying that for 20some years. So, when I got this message, when we got this decoded,

>> well,

>> I'll let it speak for itself.

>> Okay.

>> So, I told you this was Yeshua, right?

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeshua wanted a dual gendered God religion.

>> Yay. I read this. I just about [ __ ] myself. Honestly, gets better. Simon and the Roman Jew sold him out. He, his wife, and children preached in the Northland and of Scots. The Northland is Scott. Scotland.

>> Sure. But only the temple of the goddess, the people that were guarding the temple, remember when Dubly took the six ships to recover the scrolls,

>> that's the temple of the goddess. That's in North America. Those people embrace this same ideology of a dual gendered god religion. But only the temple of the goddess and the cohand and my people listened. That's what this says.

>> And this, let's go back to the origin of this.

>> This came from Roberta.

>> Roberta is

>> Okay. So, we just, we'll just be real. Okay. So, as people were dying over the years,

>> right?

>> They were all guys that were part of the agency

>> that Don worked with,

>> put their lives on the line with, and and Bill Jackson, too. Remember, Don and Bill are best friends, okay?

>> Their whole lives.

>> When we found the treasure that had that and the and the stone that is um with the Dremel tool.

>> Mhm.

>> That was in a different place. I don't want to say that place cuz I don't want people going there.

>> Sure.

>> As we were walking out and we had an amazing day. It was Jan and I and and Don and we crossed a little stream and he got his feet wet. I need to rest. And so we stopped. We sat down and I took a selfie of Don and I. I use that in my presentation when I tell this story. And we were sitting there and I looked at Don and I said, "Don, is there anybody left? Any of your colleagues that are still around that might have something?" He said, "Well, McMasters is still living, but he and Bill Jackson didn't get along. He wouldn't have left him anything." Then he sat for a minute and he looked at me and he goes, "Bill had a girlfriend." And we know who she is. Not me or his wife. He had a girlfriend,

>> right?

>> And it turns out she got the best stuff. So, three months after that, we found out that her code name was IUDA, which is really Judea because they didn't have a J back then. They called it UDEA. That was her code name. And she was um she was a uh she worked in the medical field. That's where he met her.

>> Anyway, um, they were both physicians. She died two years prior to three years ago. So, she's been dead for five years. But before she died, she gave all of the stuff that Bill had given her to her cousin Roberta. All the stuff that you've seen, this latest stuff came from Roberta. And when we when Don got to Roberta,

>> she had just had a stroke. And she wrote a note. You can see her handwriting is really labored. and she basically said, "I have the originals in the attic. When I get them, I'll I'll give them to you." And that happened. So, we have everything. And that was a lot of stuff. And it's all this stuff, including this stuff.

>> And then we got the stuff. That was 2023.

>> Yeah. 2023. And she died in August of that year. But we had gotten everything from her. And we've been decoding everything since except for this last stuff. So, we're having a party when we got this, right?

>> I I'm not a little bit happy about this. I'm to the moon.

>> But this was just the warm-up band. And the warm-up band wasn't even that good compared to the main line, which is coming right now. Well,

>> so flash forward to six months ago or seven months ago, whatever it was, when you and I and Beckett and you and other people were at the cosmic summit 2025. I'm giving my presentation on the main stage and I talked about this

>> because we had just gotten that

>> and while I was speaking somebody called me

>> Don Rue now I didn't

>> while you were speaking

>> literally while I was speaking

>> while you were up on stage

>> but I you know I had it on silent the one time I didn't leave it on right

>> so after my lecture and you know I answered questions whatever I go to my phone it was Don So, I called Don. Guess what he said? McMasters died and he left him some stuff. He was wrong. Remember the guy that didn't get along with Bill?

>> Yeah.

>> He left him the best stuff.

>> Okay.

>> That stuff is that. So, that first group, tell me what you see. I'm not familiar with the Theban alphabet.

>> That's all theban.

>> That's all the I see some Latin.

>> That's Yeah.

>> Yeah. Some some So we've got MCM. So that's 1933.

>> Exactly.

>> And then we have down here if that's 100. Let's see. So 23. So 123. Is that what this is?

>> No. Let's see. What is this?

>> Oh, that's his sigla. Clipus lucinius jarbo.

>> Okay. That's That's our guy.

>> Okay. So, he's got his signature 23,

>> right? He's the 23rd. Here's here's what you have to understand. The name Clyus Lucinius Jarbo was a was a code name.

>> I got it.

>> So, and and these are the guys that updated the records over the centuries. Now, if you are the Templar recordkeeper and maker of maps where the treasures are hidden,

>> there are certain people that probably want to have a conversation with you, right? I wouldn't be surprised.

>> So, you're not going to use your real name.

>> Sure.

>> So, that's the name that they use. And we know of at least

>> five generations. Now, this is the 23rd. And on this, I think we have the 22nd. Yes. Jarbo 22nd with a hooked X. Now, hold that map. Hold that map. We're not there yet. So, so that's, you know, Clyus did this. So, this is the first little message. And here's what it says. Due to increased storms, the order thinks the island not safe now. Captain Marawn will get scroll and bury it on mainland. 1933. So, when I read this, the first thing I thought of was weather, increased storms.

>> Uhhuh.

>> Well, stupid me, that's not what it was. And Jerry Lutkin was the one that first pointed out to me. He said, "Uh, Scott, I don't think it's weather." And I'm thinking, "Oh, it's going to rain so bad it's going to drown the islands. The water level's going to No." He said, "I think they're referring to events leading up to World War II." And when I thought of I went, "Of course that's what it is."

>> And that is what it is. Now, in talking to brother Tim Hogan, he told us that, and I looked it up, and he's correct, that in 1934, there was supposed to be a meeting of all the surviving Templar traditions in Europe. And they were going to consolidate everything that they had and get it out of Europe. that was called the um Council of Fedi, but it never happened because there was too much chaos going on with Hitler and the Germans

>> by then. Yeah.

>> And they just said, "We're going to get out of here." And they came to the United States.

>> So this is probably an outgrowth of that.

>> So So that's the first message. So, the islands we're talking about are the bear and the moon. That's what he's referring to. And I'll show you why we know that's true in a in a little bit. Now, this second message says, "Captain Marawn got scroll, repackaged it, rehides it. Trees are gone, stumps remain, moss covered." 1953. So, they apparently didn't like the way it was packaged

>> and so they repackaged it and now I understand why and we'll get to that. Okay. But then we always check everything now. So, please indulge me,

>> okay?

>> And do the work. Captain Marshand dies 19 73.

>> Yep.

>> Exact location of scroll lost to us. Hook decks

>> with a hook decks.

>> So this would have been written by who? This do we know some? Well, I think it was written by a descendant of Clif 22 and 23. This was done later

>> because that's the 23rd. Clifus the 23rd may have been his son or whoever the next guy was in charge of keeping records.

>> 1973. Huh.

>> So, what do you think this message is? Well, so Captain Marshian must have known precisely then where

>> he's the one that repackaged it and rearied it, right?

>> Uhhuh. So he passes away. We don't know why, but that he dies in 1973

>> or

>> or

>> it's a false flag.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Because if somebody gets a hold of this

>> Uhhuh.

>> they're telling you a lot of information.

>> Uhhuh. And this Captain Marawn guy, we might want to talk to him. Oh, can't talk to him. He's dead.

>> Well, maybe we get a hold of some of the people in the order. Oh, can't talk to them. They don't know where it is.

>> This almost I almost called off the search because of that. And the fact that it's invisible. Oo, it must be even more important, right?

>> It's a false flag. And the reason we know that is because we found it. This was the other thing that Marawn had or not Marawn McMasters

>> five tree dig 18 in to 2 feet.

>> Yep.

>> Okay. 320° 138 minutes. We've got what looks to me like a lake. Uh scroll showing it's buried. Yeah, the scroll aisle. Do you 138 to bear. Bear. Okay. Oh, right there. Moon. Moon. Right. Is that moon?

>> Yep.

>> Let me see here.

>> Moon.

>> Moon. Okay. So, the moon 138 ft. This is a bear. CSubrament 1933. A with Lewis Marshand. Oh yeah. And then and then this name 22.

>> 22. So this map is older I think than this.

>> Mhm.

>> But this tells us where they put it.

>> So you see those four

>> Yeah.

>> dots.

>> Mhm.

>> Those are glacial boulders.

>> Those are the boulders. Those are the boulders. They're like as big as this table.

>> Uhhuh.

>> And they stand up between three to almost 5t tall.

>> Fairly prominently.

>> And they're right on the shore. You can't miss them. If you're paddling along, you can't miss them.

>> Uhhuh.

>> And so you see the far right one,

>> the one on the far right has looks like a a line leading up. Well, yeah. It's a

>> And line 138 ft. 138 ft

>> from the shore, I'm guessing. And then

>> No, from the boulder.

>> From the boulder, not the shore of the boulder.

>> Yep. The boulder's up maybe

>> 40 50 feet from the water line. Okay. From the water.

>> Okay. Now, the current water line could have varied.

>> Could have varied. That's why they use that rock's not going to vary though.

>> Correct. Okay. So that is the same place where we went looking for the skull that lake

>> but it was on the other island. There's two islands together. The round one that was in that first invisible message that was that said the skull of Yeshua.

>> The scroll was buried on that island. Right next to it is the moon island where we went looking for the skull.

>> Is that what it's known as? The moon island.

>> Well, that's what they call it because it looks like a crescent. You saw the picture of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a crescent.

>> So, they were right together. The skull and the scroll. The skull's been recovered. The scroll has been moved. And so, we flew back in again on the on the same plane. Same guy flew us in. We got in canoes, went over here, got my phone out with my compass. I set 320 degrees

>> and started azimuth from that boulder

>> and walked 138 ft.

>> Now, when I got to 138 ft, there was actually a little bit of a hill that went down and a little bit of a draw there

>> where the water was flowing out. and started metal detecting on a little bit of a slope and I got a hit. Of course, started digging and found a little aluminum vessel for cooking, like camping, and it was trash, buried trash. So, swinging a mess, right?

>> But, you know, when you're taking uh an azimuth heading like that, you know, you get off even half a foot by the time you get

>> Yeah.

>> you know, you're going to be off several feet, right? So, we just started arcing to the right and we went over about 15 20 feet, started metal detecting, found a 19 I think it was 50s era coke cam.

>> No good. Swinging a miss again. then went over a little and and kind of got to a flatter area of this particular slope that was going down towards the lake. And there was a stump, an old stump, a big stump. I mean, it was maybe half or bigger, you know, diameter of this table.

>> So, it could have been a couple hundred years old.

>> Oh, it was an old tree, but it had been dead for a long time.

>> Yeah. So started metal detecting and got to the base of it and got a hit. So I started digging and I pulled out an aluminum tent nail that's about 10 in long and I'm like this isn't trash. Somebody may have forgotten it, but it's buried. And I thought maybe it's a marker like the bullet. And so metal detected again got another hit. and started digging again. And I got through the organic soil about a foot. Now, this thing said what, 18 in to 2 feet.

>> So, there was about a foot of organic, deep organic stuff.

>> And this is like now I'm like right up against the edge of the stump and actually started to dig under it a little bit. And then I got to glacial soils. It suddenly turned gray

>> and instead of dark kind of a reddish black color organic ridge and then I started pulling rocks out and sand and then this happened. You found Legos?

>> No, I did find Legos. I've seen this before somewhere.

>> The green jar.

>> The green jar.

>> And I pulled it out and there was there was a tin top on it like this.

>> Okay.

>> And that's what was pinging, right?

>> That was what was pinging. So

>> somebody wait buried this jar and put the metal on it. put the tin can on top

>> thinking that it would then be more possible to find it

>> with a with a detector.

>> Yeah.

>> And now we know when that happened.

>> We do.

>> We know exactly when that happened

>> in 1973.

>> 53.

>> 53.

>> 53.

>> 73 is the false flag of Marawn dying.

>> Okay. So 53. Yeah. I'm two years old and I didn't know about this at that point.

>> Wait, you were on the Mayflower with me. You were sitting right next to me, Randall. Oh, was that you? Okay.

>> Anyway, um, so I So I'm holding this thing and I'm like in shock. I'm like,

>> but there's something inside.

>> Well, yes. I'll get there. Hey, I got to enjoy my moment, right? I mean, I'm holding this thing like this and you've seen that picture. Oh, yeah.

>> And part of me is going, there's no way. The other part of me is like, this is it. My gut was saying, this is it. But you know, there's a part of you that goes, you don't find stuff like this, right?

>> So, I'm holding this. And

>> now, this has been dug up from under this stump.

>> I pulled it out from under the stump. It was laying like this. And I pulled it out like that.

>> Okay.

>> And I remember grabbing the bottom.

>> It's sealed.

>> Well, it Yes, it was sealed and it's sealed. It was sealed with wax.

>> And so, I took the tent pole and I, you know, took this the wax off. I collected the wax. We have that. And then I opened it. You can see it's corroded a little bit, but it's in pretty good shape.

>> Yeah.

>> Say what the jar is or what it was for.

>> Yeah. This is a prune juice jar. And we the company that started making this particular vessel with prune juice was back in the 1940s.

>> Uhhuh. So this would have been around in 19

>> Yeah. So it fits, right?

>> Yeah. So then what I did was it was filled with sand.

>> So I got a big sample bag. I poured the sand out into it. I have made a thin section. I've identified what the sand is. It's a very fine grained, highly angular quartz and felt spar sand. And the high angularity is going to the high surface area is going to absorb moisture. Mhm.

>> And when I poured it out, there was like dust billowing. It was dry as a bone. So, the paper inside was perfect. Now, before I get to the paper, I want to tell you what else was inside. Eight of these. And what we have here, it appears to be uh well, he's wearing a helmet. He's holding a mace and a shield.

>> Yes.

>> Uh the helmet I don't Is that Templar or is that

>> Well, according according to the material that we found, this it's supposed to be a knight, right?

>> Yeah.

>> And so I just think it's appropriate. But what they did was they put eight of those inside the jar.

>> Someone's coat. That was from his coat.

>> From a coat. Yeah. And actually there was a piece of thread still on one of them. And we we saved all that. But the reason they put these metal buttons in there, I think, is that if that tin can on top eroded away,

>> this was the backup so they could find it.

>> Uhhuh.

>> With the metal detector.

>> Got it. Yeah.

>> And of course the number eight.

>> Yeah.

>> Perfect. Right.

>> Mhm.

>> So anyway, we didn't find those until much later because we were so focused on what was in the scroll.

>> And the scroll itself was wrapped in a um

>> placemat.

>> Was it a handkerchief or a placemat? It was a placemat. A designer placemat that was made by a woman who her little uh icon was a ladybug. And that partic we found the exact place mat and it was manufactured between 1950 and 1957.

>> So again the the the time frame fits

>> everything fits. Um, the paper we were able to check the watermarks on the paper.

>> The paper was manufactured in Wisconsin paper and they were founded like in the late 1800s. So that's no problem. And um, what was the other thing? There was one. Oh, the cho the the tin can

>> was a Chongqing chowine tin can. You know remember how you used to get

>> uh Chung King and it was in you you get the noodles in the small tin can and then the rest was in the big one. It was the noodle can and that was actually founded in Duth, Minnesota.

>> Okay.

>> By Gino Paluchi. Oh, Gino Paluchi.

>> You know that name? He was one of the donors of of uh to the UMD football team

>> and I played football up there. So, I knew Gino Paluchi. I knew of him. I didn't meet him, but anyway, that goes back to the 1940s. Here again,

>> yeah,

>> everything fits, right?

>> So, it looks like it's authentically early 50s.

>> Everything Everything fits what the information tells us. Mhm.

>> So once we unwrapped it, we got a bundle of paper. The first thing we got was this. This is Italian.

>> It is very good.

>> Not really. I would have to go over there and perhaps call on my old friend Google's uh translator.

>> We've already translated it. We're way ahead of you. You ready?

>> Uh I'm ready. Oh, I swear there's some mathematics down here.

>> Hold on. Hold on.

>> Okay. Okay.

>> We'll get there.

>> All right.

>> The power is within you.

>> The glory of God shines around you through other people.

>> Gloria, that would be deity, right? Splenda in tornado within you. Yeah. Okay. And then what was the last part?

>> The glory of God shines around you through other people.

>> Through other people. Al altra person. So other people. Okay.

>> Well, that's pretty profound.

>> Yeah.

>> That's good stuff, isn't it?

>> Yeah, that's good stuff. So read it again so you

>> The power is within you. The glory of God shines around you through other people.

>> Okay.

>> Oh, you're very good. He's learning. Good job.

>> I was waiting for that.

>> What do you see?

>> Moon.

>> Moon.

>> Moon.

>> Moon is Jesus's skull.

>> Oh, yeah. The bear is the scroll. That's where they were hidden.

>> Oh, there's the bear. 138 ft and the moon.

>> You know what's interesting about 138 ft?

>> Uh,

>> not only is it where this was, but it's also the distance between the two islands.

>> Okay. So that would actually give them a reference if they knew, you know, the distance between the two islands. They could always calibrate.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. It's confirmation.

>> Now, there was another sheet.

>> Alpha equals

>> Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that. over 4 m. Let's see what is that. So, we got beta equals a over 2 pi. I'd have to spend a little time with this to make sense out of it. I can't quite make out. 4 m and what's the little that little little it looks like a a a degree sign, but it's down at the bottom. H E or H C.

>> The bear and the moon.

>> Okay, there's the moon.

>> There's the bear. There's the moon.

>> Oh,

>> 138 ft. That's the distance between the two islands.

>> Okay,

>> just so you give you context. And oh, by the way, before we go to this, do your work.

>> Well, that looks like the moon. right there. This looks like Let's see.

>> Flip it this way. Go this way.

>> Yeah. There we go. There we go. Yeah. So, we got

>> 100.

>> I was going to say C X plus, right?

>> No, that's they're X's.

>> X's. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, we got 138

>> 138 ft. Okay. Right in

>> the same. Is that a hooked X? No, not there.

>> Not there. Okay. Got it. So, it's you got a C for 100 and then you got the three

>> three X's which is 30 and then you got a V and three I. So, you got 138.

>> Do you see the bear?

>> Uh-huh.

>> Isn't that cool the way they drew it?

>> Can you get that? Uh,

>> Becket,

>> can you see this, Rowan?

>> No. No.

>> No. Okay. Cuz Yeah, Rowan's not supposed to see this, right? Well, you can't from this side because I have a document covering it up, but you wouldn't see it anyway.

>> You have to be on this side.

>> That was a Rowan joke.

>> Rowan's not supposed to see.

>> Oh, god. Your jokes have to come with instructions. I I can't I can't.

>> Oh, he's my little brother. He might not be able to handle this.

>> I think I left my sense of humor at back in Minneapolis. I don't know.

>> Okay. Well, let's get back to this.

>> Yeah, let's get back to

>> So, what is that? I I We still don't know what that is. I'm trying to look and see what we wrote about this, but I don't think we know

>> A and B. So, we got an alpha and a beta.

>> We should start with the simple one, beta, which is your alpha over two

>> pi.

>> 2 pi is what I'm guessing.

>> Yeah.

>> Equals alpha squared. That's the part, you know, it looks like if this was if this was maybe it's deliberately offset. I don't know. If this if this was right here, if this was up higher, I would immediately go, okay, it's 0 degrees or something. Oh,

>> but it's not. Yeah,

>> it's not. Um,

>> it's a Would you agree it's a complex formula?

>> Yeah. So, so they're giving you So, this you'd have to substitute this into here. You see, a is equal to this.

>> Yep. Yep.

>> Um, so beta is equal to all of this divided by 2 pi.

>> Mhm.

>> T2 equals this this whole thing, right? Equals a^2.

>> Where are you seeing T2?

>> Right here.

>> I think that's

>> Oh, that's r that's your No, I think that's a beta.

>> Oh, okay. Okay. I'm looking at We're looking at alpha and beta here.

>> Okay,

>> I could be wrong, but that that was my first impression. That's that's the Greek letter beta, but uh I don't know, but I'm going to play with this because I Yeah, I don't

>> Please do.

>> Yeah.

>> And that right there, H C or H E here. This

>> looks like a C to me.

>> Well, is it the same as this? No, I don't think it is.

>> So, this looks like an E.

>> That's an E. I think E squ and H C is what I see.

>> Uhhuh. HC.

>> And then is this a four?

>> I would interpret that as a four. I mean, yeah, that

>> Yeah, look at this. Because here's a four here. It kind of looks similar.

>> Yeah.

>> Sort of boxy looking, right?

>> Yeah. 13 and then 17 in parentheses.

>> That's crazy, isn't it? Do you want to

>> Yes, I do.

>> I think you should play with that a little bit.

>> Yeah, I I will write that down and

>> Oh, just take a picture of it.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um,

>> so Randall, you've been spending time with this equation.

>> Uhhuh.

>> How would you sum up what you think you've discovered? Well, I I'm going to have to dive more into what Beckett has discovered about the fine constant.

>> Okay,

>> I want to thoroughly understand that. But I I I noticed some interesting gamatria connections. And what tipped me off was 729, which is a number we find frequently in systems of sacred geometry.

>> Okay, uh it the square root of 729 is 27 which is one of the foundational numbers of the whole system of Damatria and particularly Greek Cababala.

>> Yeah.

>> But also the temple and the proportions of the temple.

>> So see so if you take 27 and you square it that's where you get the 729.

>> Ah right here.

>> Yeah. Right there. So

>> so these are the divine proportions of the temple in Jerusalem. Is that what you're saying? or just the temple in the in the temple in the lodge.

>> Well, yeah. Well, yeah. So, the the this is a number that you find frequently incorporated into the systems of sacred geometry that are used in many examples. Usually, not very prominent. They're not necessarily the prominent numbers, but you see, if you if you take like a for example, if you have a a square that's 27 in on a side, it's area is 729 square inches.

>> Okay?

>> See that? So, you have this correlation there. and and so yeah, Gamatria' be I think too complicated to try to get into now and at some point I'm going to do some recordings about the whole system.

>> Okay.

>> There's a Greek system, a Hebrew system and a and an Islamic and Arabic system.

>> Oh, okay. All right.

>> Um, and of course they're all based upon the idea that numbers and letters can be interchanged.

>> Right. Right. And they had their origins back before the advent of the Hindu Arabic numeral system which is what we have now. So

You have numerical values. You have letters of the alphabet. Gematria, called gumatria. But prior to about 500 BC, they were the same set of symbols, and that was the gumatria.

Okay. The gumatria is the idea that if you, if you, uh, it's a substitution cipher. So if you take the words like you just took a word, two words, you took a name, an important name from the Greek word we just deciphered, right? Yeah. And it got, it has a number, right? Right. Now, that number has geometric significance, okay? In the relation between a pentagon, a pentagram, the five-pointed star, which you've written about and talked about, and the square. That relationship can be based on the, the, the, the ratio of 2.368. So there's geometric symbolism in that.

Okay? And we could get into that, but it would be, it's better with examples and to show the right. We're not prepared to do that. We're not prepared to do that. But but essentially, that's what we've got here is that significant numbers and ratios, particularly as they relate to geometric relations, can be encoded into words that can be constructed into sentences and names. And that can be now presented, if you want to call it that, the outer veil of a teaching, where the inner teaching is the underlying numerical patterns.

And if you haven't been initiated, I could say something to you. Two initiated people could say something, and other people in the room have no idea what we're talking about, but you and I do. That's right. That's basically what you're saying. Well, in a way, yes. I mean, I might be talking casually, mention a number. Yeah. Yeah. And you would immediately know that that number has significance in a number of different applications. And I mean, what we find is that there's a structure that sort of on all levels of of measuring of time and space. We find that there is an ancient system of numerology that has its roots in sacred geometry. And those are the numbers we find embedded over and over again in the measures of time and space.

Right? So, it's no coincidence that if you take 10 days of time, there's 864,000 seconds in 10 days of time, and there's 864,000 miles in the diameter of the sun. So, the same number is now measuring time and space. Well, this, this has to be a connection here with ratios of planets for and and heavenly bodies. I'll give you an example. I find it interesting that when we have an eclipse. So, let's say that the Earth goes between the Sun and the Moon, and the shadow of the Earth is exactly the same size as the Moon. And they're not anywhere near the same size, but yet that shadow, when it hits the Moon, covers it perfectly. And when the Moon goes between the Earth and the Sun, it covers it perfectly. And so those are not coincidences. This is all divinely or, well, the ratio of the sun's diameter to its distance from the Earth is 400. The ratio of the lunar diameter to its distance from the Earth is 400. And it actually works out that's the ratio. But the, if you look at the sizes of the orbs themselves, they're both 108 times their own diameter from the Earth, which is an interesting number because 108 is one of the core numbers of the whole system of sacred geometry. It's the angle you get between two edges of a pentagon. 108 of a pentagram. Pentagon, which is how you get the pentagram. Right. Right. So that's for sure sacred geometry right there. That's right. And and so there's there's this connection that we just saw between the number of Jesus Christ and the pentagram. So and it, we found it in in this number too. In this number here too. Well, there's a lot more work that can be done here, but isn't this amazing? And this was the first document that was covering the rest. Do you want to see the rest? Let's do it. All right, baby. Here we go.

So, when we unwrapped the scroll, the first page, and actually they are numbered because if you look here, uh, you see like a a dot and then I forget. Yeah. And here we have like an asterk here, an asterk here. Then we have one here. We have two here, three here, one, two, three. And then we go three here connects here like this. And then four. And then four connects here. So you just follow the numbers and you, you do it in sequence. So let's, let's do it in sequence. Okay. So here's the beginning. Now take a look. And this is the, how many rows of the are there? Well, let's, eight. There's that number again. We keep getting this crazy number, right? Well, you know, interesting. Look, eight has always been one of my favorite numbers. For example, we're sitting at an octagonal table right now. That was by design. I, I'm sure it wasn't a coincidence. Okay. So, now I am going to tell you what that says right here. These are the two pages. So these eight Theban rows say this: "The 325 year compilation of old and new writings is not the infallible word of God, but the fallible compilation of the Roman Catholic Church to support their doctrine." Read that again. The 325 year compilation. The 320. Okay. Do we know what does that refer to? The 325 council of Na would be was 325 AD. And that's when they determined the dogma, the church doctrine would be the doctrine and by implication what would be heretical. Yeah. If you didn't follow that doctrine. Right. Right. Right. In other words, they're [ __ ] And I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it because it's it's [ __ ] The 325 compilation of old and new writings is not the infallible word of God, as they claim. But the fallible compilation of the Roman Catholic Church to support their doctrine. I find that to be astounding. I just love that because it's true. Mhm. It's 3:25 at the Council of Nicaea when Constantine brought all these leaders together to try to consolidate the Roman Empire. Instead of doing it through force, he did it through faith. And what he did was he took a little piece of everybody's, you know, ideology and put it into the doctrine so they could all go back and tell, hey, look what I got, right? So they were all on board. It was actually quite brilliant. But it set up and ended up being the scourge of the world for the next 1700 years to to the year almost last year. 2025. 325. 1700 years later. Wow. Okay, let's move on.

See these numbers? Yeah. We got rows of numbers. We actually got word separators for like the first time. Normally we don't get those. Uh-huh. So you got one, two, three, four, five, six, five rows of numbers. And then here it transitions. Yes. See, they got a period, meaning we're done. Then you get into this next code. But let's do this one. Let's do that one. See what we got. This one is really important. And I'll tell you why in a sec. "Translated from the original Aramaic by Brother Simon for the Poor Knights of Christ." So you got the twice, the the Poor Knights of Christ. Now, stupid me did not get it. But then when I called Don and after we found this, I made copies and I immediately went to Don's and gave him copies, full-size copies. And then went to hotel and we started to decipher while he was deciphering at his place, right? But we were calling back and forth and I got to hear and we figured out what this was and I said, "Don, what, what, what the hell is this, the Poor Knights of Christ?" He said, "It's a tell." And I went, "Oh, the Poor Knights of, that's a cipher phrase." He said, "Exactly." And that is at the end. And I'll show you that, but Don was the one that figured it out. So I want to make sure he gets credit for that because I was struggling. Athe. What is the 'the'? Hello. It's a tell. And so, and I should know that because we've had lots of tells in these coded messages before and I just didn't get them.

What, what do we mean by a tell? It's like, pay attention to me. I'll give you an example. On the Kensington Runestone, when I did the photo library, I was finding under low angle and high angle reflected light, I was finding punch marks and short strokes that were added to the runes that nobody had ever noticed before. They were clearly man-made, and if they were man-made, they meant something. So, what I did is every time I came across one, I would put it in a separate folder and I labeled it "odd runes." And then later on, Dick and I figured out what those codes were. Dick Neielen, who I wrote the Kensington Runestone: Compelling New Evidence that book with. Now, there were a number of codes that we found. The first code we found was a dating code. On the front side of the Runestone, we have the number eight. The number eight keeps showing up in this stuff. I wonder why. No. Well, I know why. It's a sacred number. It's part of the Fibonacci sequence and it's goes on and on. In any case, the number eight was singled out. The L on, I think it's line four in the word "skiarr," which is also "slarr," possibly a corrupted spelling of Sinclair. But the scholars didn't know what to do with it because there's a short stroke in the middle of that L. But L is also perfect for a golden year if you're making uh an encrypted date using the medieval Easter table. And then the last thing on the inscription is a fancy looking U with a stroke and two dots. Shouldn't have the stroke. And if you plot those three things on the Easter table, you get the date 1362. Now, we also have the date 1362 in pentatic numbers in Arabic placement on the Kensington Runestone, but we also have the date encoded within the inscription because I'm saying it's a land claim. And if somebody added another stroke to the three in 1362, that's 100 years. Uh-uh. Can't do it because we've encoded the same date within the inscription using the medieval Easter table dating tradition from the exact same time period. That's one code. Another code that we found that becomes absolutely germane right now on the Kensington Runestone. The first four runes that are singled out with a dot or short stroke are the letters G R A L in sequence, which in medieval Old Swedish spells what? Grail or growl? But Grail. That Grail. That Grail on the Kensington Runestone. And of course, what did people say? Oh, isn't that cute? Isn't that precious? You found Grail. What do you want from me? These things are singled out and in sequence. This is what it says. I want to say something to those people that used to criticize me. I have said things to them, but I'm going to, I'm more mature now, so I'm going to calm down. We've got Grail on the on the stone. Uh, we also have, this is interesting, too. This tells you the complexity of and the level of initiation that the carver of the inscription had. The numbers that we see in the inscription: 8, 22, 10, 10, 14. Did you know that there are exactly 22 hooked X's in the inscription? I recalled that from the book. That's one of the numbers, right? Do you know how many individual pentatic numbers there are? That I don't remember. 14. Oh. Coincidence? You know how many G runes there are? And G is backwards. And of course, the scholar said, "Well, that's not right. It's got a dot at the top." 10. No, take that back. The W rune, which is used for V and W, like Vinland. There are 10 of those. Right. And it's the G rune, the backwards G rune. There are eight of those. Okay. So they are, they're in the numbers are all encoded with these rare runes that the scholars said never existed. And guess what they did? So I mean, that is just one level of of depth to this inscription that nobody's ever documented. How come I'm the first person to point this out? Because it's a fake and nobody ever bothered to study it. But anyway, and there's more, we'll get into, but let's keep going here. Yeah, let's keep going.

Okay, so now we have a cipher phrase, "The Poor Knights of Christ." Which is how many letters would you guess that phrase is? The Poor Knights of Christ. 22. Bingo. That's not a coincidence either. Oh, that's on the Kensington Runestone. Oh, that's how many hooks we have on the Runestone. Crazy. Well, you know, that's how many letters there are in the Hebrew alphabet. In the Hebrew alphabet. Exactly. And the 22 paths of wisdom in the Zohar. It's a sacred number. Uh, yes. Yeah. You want to know another 22? That's really cool. Sure. Do you know how many bones you have in your skull? I would guess 22. You are correct. Eight in your cranium, 14 in your face. M. Add them together. 14 + 8 comes up to 22. Bingo. So when I give that lecture and I talk about, you know, this mysticism of these numbers and the mystical aspects and esoteric aspects of the Kensington Runestone, I talk about the spiritual journey that everybody takes at one point in their life, right? Whether it's through religion, through some spiritual pursuit, whatever. At the end of the day, what happens? It all comes back to you, right? And if you start adding other numbers up, like what's 8 and 22? 30. Plus two shelters. The next number in the inscription, 30 + 2. Oh, 32. One day's journey north. 33. How many degrees in the Scottish Rite degree system? Oh, I would say 32. Plus one, right? Plus one, right? And how many vertebrae do you have in your spinal count? Last last time I counted it was at 33. Bingo. It all comes back to you, literally. These sacred numbers. Okay, enough of that pontification. This next part with these strange symbols that goes to here. Yeah. Says, "Encrypted by Brother Lionus for the Order of the Grail. The Order of the Grail, 1897." Could this be the same Order of the Grail that did the Kensington Runestone in 1362? 1362. Could be. Could be. I'm liking it. Uh-huh. You know what? I'm going with it. So, the Order of the Grail, 18 what? 97. So, 1897. That's when this work was done. So, then where is the Order of the Grail now? Did they go underground? Did they dissipate? Did they pass away? Or do they still exist in some organized form? Do you think it's a coincidence that we found this? Probably not. I'm just asking a question. I think I think Tim Hogan is the grandmaster of that tradition. Okay. Interesting. So Tim. Yeah. I've gotten to know Tim pretty good over the last couple of years. Mhm. And we are going to do a a debunking of the BS around the Masonic brown beads. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah. If you need any help, I can I can frame up and put people down if you want. I want. Figuratively, of course. Of course. Yeah. I can still play. All right. So, Order of the Grail, Brother Leonitis, Leonitis, 1897. So, that's when this was done. So, they had the original, not the original Aramaic. I'm sure it was a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy because that's what the tradition does. We, we talked about it earlier. So, this was when this work was done. It was put on the Bear Island and then it was probably around 1900 or whenever they did it. Then it was moved in 1933 as we started to get involved in World War, the leadup to World War II. And then in '53, they decided they needed to do a better job of protecting this. And then, um, and then we come along. [ __ ] Okay, here we go. MF. [ __ ] Oh, sorry. You took the bait. I thought you were more mature than that. I tr Not always. I, I backslide from. I said the same thing. Okay. MF. My father. Okay. I like that better. Yeah. Equals MG. My God. My God. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Father. Genesis chapter 1. "Let us make man in our own image." Genesis 1 + 3:5:16. "Let us make man in our image. In the image of God made he him." To make more, he needed a female. So Eve, they made in the image. They made Cain and Abel. Cain slew Abel and MF put his mark on him, IHN, in his name. Okay. Okay. And banished him to Nod. So none there would kill him. But if a, if but if Adam, Eve, Cain are the only people, who is in Nod? Good question. Know this. Then they were not the first people, but the first Jews. That's a different slant on it. That's a different slant, isn't it? But it makes perfect sense. How can you banish somebody to a city if they're the first people? Well, I've pointed that out for years without ever getting any satisfactory response. Guess who's pointing it out again? Uh-huh. Him. Chapter 6:5:2. "And the sons of MF saw the daughters of men and found them pleasing in their sight. And Cain and knew them. And they settled in the land of Nod, where Cain was sent. So their children enjoyed life for its pleasures, both male female, male male, and female female." So apparently he doesn't have a problem with gay people. I'm just saying. Okay. I'm just reading it. This does not procreate or horf. So he destroyed them all. But flood nor fire succeeded. Thus the sons and daughters of natural man filled the earth. Yet nowhere did they mate with a Jew till Elizabeth. Till what? Jew. Filled the earth. Yet nowhere did they mate with a Jew till Elizabeth. Elizabeth? I don't get. John the Baptist's mother. Oh. Oh, okay. Who's they? Uh, the, the, the sons of God. Is that who it's referencing there? Mhm. So, who are those guys? That's the question. Yeah, that's the question. It seems to get glossed over quite frequently within the Uh-huh. up there. "Seeing at work in six weeks, the angel Anton came and knew my mother." How do you interpret that, Mr. Carlson? Uh, my mother knew my mother. Well, it sounds like the angel Anton came and procreated with his mother. Bingo. So, what does that mean? Well, who's who's speaking here? Oh, you're going to figure that out soon. Okay. Well, let's go on. You know who it is. Well, okay. What is this document called? I don't know. What is it called? Yes, you do. What have we been calling it the whole time? The Yeshua scroll. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, who's talking? Well, Yeshua. Let that sink in. But Yan and I chose MF. John. Yeah. On chose God. Mhm. Then know this, Adam and Eve could read or write. Thus, the tree of life was not a tree, but a book that spake, spoke. That makes sense. The tree of knowledge was a book. The fruit chapters numbered 1, 11, 2, 11, 11, etc. So MF looked like man except for intelligence, hence the book to store it all. MF and his wife Asher called wisdom rebuked his brother for having led Eve to open the book and sent him out of earth to Arcturus. But he returns when called, for many follow him here. What of the serpent? I don't know what's going on here. I'll be honest. I, I, I'm not tracking Arcturus. The eye of the bull. That's the eye of the bull of Taurus. Well, then it might make, could be a reference to the Tor meteor shower and serpent has been frequently used to represent represent that represent that. So the meteor shower, could that be them coming here? Well, I mean, we know that every year Earth crosses through a stream of meteors and it's the most likely candidate for triggering various catastrophes, like the glacial disintegration of the glacial ice sheets and at the Younger Dryas and yes, and the subsequent floods, right? Well, the raising of sea level, right? In fact, the Hebrew were, you know, this is we're talking about the constellation of the bull, right? Right. And in Hebrew, Hebrew, the Hebrew word for flood, the deluge, is "mabul." Mabul, and it comes, it's related to our word for bull. The flood itself, it's almost as if hidden in the the. So could that be a connection to Taurus and Arcturus? Well, I would think it could be, yeah. All of a sudden, that seems to tie together. We didn't know this before. Very good. Oh, well. Well, no, I, I mean, it just fits, right? Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. Cuz I, I couldn't make heads or tails of that. Now all of a sudden, it's starting to make a little more sense. Well, and there was a whole, I mean, at the core of the original Christianity, there was a very strong eschatological component to it. I mean, we see, I mean, how does the New Testament end with the whole apocalyptic tradition, which I think refers directly to the Younger Dryas. Yeah. And and the great cycle of catastrophes that all of the, you know, that was part of the wisdom tradition, understanding the the vast temporal cycles. That was the the concept behind the great year. Yeah. Which has definitely found its way into early Christianity. You're talking about procession of the equinox. Yeah. Yeah. And that whole cycle, yeah. 26,000 year long cycle that, if I'm understanding what you're saying right, is predicated on not just that um rotation of the zodiacal belt around the earth, but also this catastrophic event that happens once every 26,000 years. Or is it once every half cycle? Well, it's 12 cycles. Yeah. Or 13, whatever. Yeah. So, but a half cycle gives us the Younger Dryas. Right. And basically, you know, if you know, talk about the the lion of the tribe of Judah refers us to Leo. Leo. And then the cusp of Virgo Leo. So now we have that connection between the virgin and Leo. Right. Precisely defines the lower Younger Dryas boundary. So the geology has confirmed significance to the ancient symbolism. The hard science, science. Of geology. Of geology. And Yeah. And it's confirming. Yeah. Wow. This is awesome. And this isn't the first time we go back in time, we see this cyclical event, right? And where would it be best preserved? In those glacial ice cores. Probably up in Greenland. Greenland. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting that Greenland has been in the news lately, hasn't it? I know. Hey, we, I, I don't think it, it's a small thing for us to acknowledge that we are living through a very profound moment in history right now. And, um, and we're making these connections live as we're going through this. Look at the, you see a document up on the screen there with highlights. Yeah. Okay. That is a document about uh Younger Dryas studies from Greenland ice cores. Really? Because Greenland. I didn't look at that. I swear to God. I just said it, didn't I? Yeah. So, here's the thing. The Greenland ice cores are an archive. Yes. They're an archive. They're a book that's revealing. Yes. The past. Exactly. Yeah. Because it's, it's, it's a beautiful continuous unit of geological sediments that are undisturbed. Yeah. And they're the most reliable, especially in the last whatever million years. It's been a relatively recent record, but a lot of [ __ ] has happened in the last several million or tens of millions of years. What that is telling us right there is that, take looking at that Younger Dryas layer, there's a huge spike of ammonium. That ammonium is a byproduct of forest fires. Ah. That is then followed by a huge spike of dust. This is the ash. Is this ash settling down from those? Or it could be. Well, yeah, it could be. So you've got a lot of calcium, which comes from the crust of the earth. So if you, if you have a forest, the forest burns down in an intense fire, what you're left with is highly erodable, dried out material. Right. So now the wind can pick that stuff up. Right. Right. Right. And that's what hap you. So you've got the ammonium spike followed immediately by huge dust deposits. And that in that Greenland ice sheet is two of the signatures of the beginning of the Younger Dryas. And that's when 12,000, about 12,900 years ago. So about 13,000 years ago, about half a cycle on of the based based on the traditional number would be 12,960 years would be a half cycle. Okay. 25,920 is the traditional number um for the whole cycle. And if you use the 50 arcsec per year, which is slightly more, it means of course that's only our the the the rate right now. There's no, we don't know that the rate stays continuous. We assume it's a constant, but it may not have been. It may not be. So, but that gives you a little bit less than 25,920 years. Little bit less, not much. And and even in the textbooks, they typically round off the precessional cycle to 26,000. And that's okay. But that's even a greater error than the error between the measured rate and the traditional number. Right? The measured rate now of precessional motion is closer to 25,920 than it is to 26,000. But you always see 26,000 typically as the length of the procession. That's that's an okay number. It's easy to remember, right? I mean, we start, you start getting too detailed, people's eyes start glazing over. You got 100%. But I think it's important to remember that what if you project the the the the motion that we've now measured with a high degree of accuracy, uh, is actually closer to the traditional number, right? Than the number we use for convenience. Okay. That's my point. Yeah. Okay. So if you're going to be rounding off, you because I, well, you're rounding off because a real number is 50 seconds plus, well, okay. But it's not far off and it's actually closer. It's close enough for dirt work. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, okay. Let's go on then. All right. All right. Uh, natural female mated with my uncle and got the creature with legs that crawled from the waters and over the long, over a long time came to be natural man, strong and large of stature, worshiping its ancestor. A fork in the road became the snake. Another natural. I, I don't know what that this stuff. I don't know. Um, the serpent. The serpent comes again. For. So this is, this is uh allegorical, I'm sure. Another natural man and woman. So if you follow me, whether you turn right or left, you will hear a voice behind you saying, "This is the way. Walk in it." We know, interesting, distinctly by Gematria, the term Messiah, "Messiach." Now, this is in the Hebrew. Messiah. Yeah. Um, Mem Yod. Mem is 40. Shin is 30. Yod is 10. Uh, and is 8. Three. Wait a minute. Mem 40. Shin is 300. Okay. So that's 340. Yod is 10 and is 8. So 358. Uh, that's 358. Now, in the garden, you know, we, 358 are the three whole numbers of the Fibonacci. That's right. And yes, and the golden spiral, the golden ratio, which is the same thing. Now, in the garden, Eve is approached by the serpent who says, you know, asks her, uh, you know, "Hath God said, ye shall not eat of the tree of the fruit of knowledge?" And she says, "Yeah, God said that. He said, 'Not only that, if we eat of it, but we're going to die.'" And the serpent says, "You're not going to die. God knows that in the day you eat there of your eyes, you're going to be opened and you're going to be like the gods." So then she looks at it. She says, "Oh, it looks like it's good for food and good to make one wine." So she took a bite of it and gave it to her husband. And then what the book of Genesis actually then says is that the eyes of both of them were opened. Opened. All right. But remember, Jehovah said, "If you eat of it, you'll surely die." Well, then you read the Bible itself. It says, "No, it didn't say that they then died. It said their eyes were opened, like the serpent told them." Now, here's the point. The serpent is "nahash." Nun is 50, Heh is 8, and Shin is 300. 358. Yeah. 358 again. Yeah. Well, you know what's interesting? You said that they will die, right? But in fact, they were enlightened, right? They were, you could make the argument that this is resurrection in in the form of they were intellectually resurrected, right? If you die and you don't learn, you're dead, right? Mhm. It's almost like a Masonic um death resurrection ritual. But this is about education. And in many ways, that is the ritual that we go through because the person, you die, the person that you were is dead, right? The one that's not initiated. But upon initiation, you learn the secrets. You c you learn the knowledge through initiation and the degrees of Freemasonry. Then you are reborn as this new enlightened person. That sounds to me exactly what you just said. That's in the Bible. So, I mean, does that make sense to you? Yeah. And and this, this kind of inverts the whole idea of like, well, wait a second. Who, who is actually then telling the truth in this? I mean, it doesn't say, if you eat it, you die. That's a lie. Yeah. You will be initiated if you read it. Not killed. Right. Your eyes will be open. Opened. Yeah. Your eyes will be open. So they eat of it. And then what does it say happened? The eyes of them both were open. Opened. And they learned and they grew and they went forward. Okay. Well, let's keep going. Let us go forward. And then in English here, now we've gone through this, both of these two pages. And now we're getting to page five. And you can see the letters. Yeah. This is all, excuse me, these are numbers. These are all numbers. Okay. And they correspond to letters. And what's interesting is we have 1 through 99. There's only 26 letters. And what's interesting, we were able to find several numbers that represented a letter. I think the most we found was five or six numbers that correlated to the same letter. That's what made this so damn difficult. Okay. Any case, when we got done, it all made sense and this is what we got. But then in English, it says this right here. Can you read that? Read that line right there. Goes across. Asia. It looks like A S I A M A L. I'm not helping you, brother. M A L L O W. I believe the M A L L MO DTA that's an E. What do we MO? There's more on there. It's hard to tell if that's an L, but let's see. Say, "Welcome to my world. Two straight days of this shit." We got Asia. That sounds pretty obvious. Then it looks like an M followed by an A followed by an L. But could that be a K? Asia is not correct. What? Asia is not correct. Well, okay. As I am. As I am. All owed. As I am allowed. All allowed. As I am allowed to say. As I am allowed to say. Yes. As I am allowed to say. That's all it said. That's what it says. As I am allowed to say. What the hell does that mean? He is saying apparently after all that stuff that we just went through, he is saying as I am allowed to say. This is Jesus saying this is all I'm allowed to say. Apparently. Mhm. So go. Yeah. We go through this and then he says, as I am allowed to say, referring to what? Encrypted in these numbers, all the way through what we just went through. Okay. Well, can you beat that? Yes. Yes, I can. And we're about to do it. Okay.

Okay. So, I want to explain something. Okay. So, here is a series of letters. Yeah. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22. 22. And what did I say? The cipher phrase was, um, the, the, the, uh, the, what? Oh, "The Poor Knights of Christ." And how many letters did we say was in that phrase? 22. And how many rows? 22. Okay. So what you do is you take "The Poor Knights of Christ" and you set up a grid system like this with 22 rows. 22 rows. "The Poor Knights of Christ." So what's the first letter? Let's say A. No. B. No. C. Christ. Okay. So we go to our grid and we go to the C in Christ and we take the first row and put it this way. Okay? And then you go through the alphabet D E, the first E, and you, and you take this is the second one. Wherever the E is, the next letter. Boom. You go all the way through until you're done. And then you read it this way. You put everything this way. You read it this way. Okay. And here's what it said: "Buckle up, buttercup." Okay. That's what it said. Yeah. That's All right. Seriously, I'm not entirely human. A rupture of the small intestines was not enough to kill me, which would be, I'm presuming, the piercing with the lance. Uh-huh. I slowed my breath and was declared dead. Remember what we started this whole thing off with? When I read that and every time I read that message about the alternate resurrection, I assume he's dead. And they thought he was dead because they said we are unclean. And Jews, when they handle a dead body, are considered unclean. At least that's my understanding. Certain days. Well, interestingly, when when Joseph of Arimathea goes to Pontius Pilate begging for the body after only six hours, if you go into the original Greek, Pontius Pilate, the word he uses is "ptoma." And the word that Joseph of Arimathea is using in the dialogue in the Greek is "soma." The difference is "ptoma" refers to a corpse and "soma" refers to a living body. That's got to be significant. And he says s. Joseph of Arimathea uses the term soma. Really? Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, of course he would know. Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Well, and then Okay. Remember when when he said, "It is done." He gives up the ghost. He says "tetelestai." "Tetelestai." That's what that means. And this happened almost immediately shortly after he was given the hyssop on vinegar, which was undoubtedly probably an incense formula, or yeah, or or practice or tradition. Well, it was more, I think it was more than a practice and a tradition because if you go into the original Greek, "aidas" was one of the terms. "Hyssop" was one of the other terms. And if you look it up, they're, they're both soporific drugs which which cause your metabolism to slow down. Okay. So here's something I want to ask you right now. This is great. One of the things that I'm doing in this new book, this that's going to be two books. It's already 600 plus pages about this whole Cremona document material. Obviously, this is the crescendo, right? Mhm. What I have is a number of people as uh that give commentary. So when I, and Janet's done it, I mean, a bunch of people, Jerry, others. Would you be willing to write up something, your interpretation of this, specifically? It's really good stuff that you just said. And I would love to say, "Commentary by Rand Carlson," and we'll just title it whatever it is, whatever you want to call it. I would love to have that contribution. If you're Sure. Well, I mean, that's, you know, all this research that I've done, that's kind of what it's led to and I think confirmed is the idea that, yeah, he, he was taken down off the cross, a living body. The Shroud of Turin itself provides evidence. And that's one reason why I think they, they kind of did a false flag on that to make it appear as if it was a medieval forgery because in reality, uh, so you don't agree with Tim Hogan's interpretation that uh Leonardo da Vinci made the Shroud of Turin? I would have to disagree with Tim on that. Okay. All right. Well, he's pretty adamant about that. Well, that's okay. I can beat the [ __ ] out of. No, I'm. I have your back, brother. If you're in trouble, I'm there. No, I don't think Leonardo did it because why? Well, it's inconsistent, first of all, with, I think the timing. I mean, Jeffrey De Sarie, the nephew of the one of the last Grand Masters, I mean, Tim must know this, was is the first historical known figure to be associated with the Shroud. And that was, was that before Leonardo? Oh, yeah. Several hundred years before Leonardo. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, then that begs the question, are we talking about the same shroud? I mean, we could be talking about two different shrouds, right? Well, there was St. Veronica's veil. There's that. Which I don't think was the same as because the shroud is so, so unique. Yeah. That I mean, it's, it's a negative of a photographic image, right? Yeah. And my own conclusion says that it was a basically an image that was taken um in the tomb and the tomb was kind of serving the function of a pinhole camera. It was totally dark in there and all you needed was. Well, he's talking about a camera obscura is what you're talking about. Camera obscura. That's right. Yeah. So, well, I, I, that's an interesting question. I mean, like I say, Tim is pretty adamant about it, but doesn't mean he's right. Or maybe there's more to the story that we don't know. Okay, maybe there is. But, um, speaking of that, should we keep going? Keep going. All right. I'm going to be ready for some dinner after this. I'll be ready for that bottle. Where's that tequila? Um, I slowed my breath and was declared dead. My cousin of my earth father's side had me rest in his family tomb. That's him. Tell him. Yeah. So, right. And that's kind of indicated in the in the Gospels themselves because they make it clear that that that the tomb was, you know, uh, hewn especially for this event. Uh, it was also, it says in there that it was on Joseph of Arimathea's, right? Land. Land. Yeah. And that's, so this is, that's got to be his cousin. Yeah. His cousin or on my earth father's side. His dad's cousin or something like, like my cousin Lonnie is my age, but he's really my mom's cousin. Okay. So you're saying you think that was Lonnie talking about? Okay. My cousin on my earth father's side had me rest in his family tomb. I healed myself and my wife came and freed me. Well, Mary Magdalene. One of the Marys. Yeah. We traveled to the north and preached a joint religion of male and female. So traveling north, would they, was that going to France? I think they went to France first, but ultimately, ultimately to Scotland, probably to the Isle of Iona, and and disembarked probably at Marseilles, right? Because there's a tradition of Mary, right? Probably that takes its name from Mary. It doesn't, it doesn't say that here, but Right. Um, a joint religion of male and female. Here again, that's confirmation of the hooked X's and our interpretation is I am, I, I take this as confirmation that's correct. We bore two children, returned to Jerusalem, and finally I ascended to my father. My body returned to my cousin's family tomb. So everything that we wrote about in Akenaten about the Templars going there and taking the bones, he was there. Mhm. And now we know they took them and brought them over here. Okay. My spirit will re Okay. Now this is what this is. This [ __ ] is crazy. Okay. You ready? Mhm. My spirit will return at the end of the sixth day, June 6th, by the new counting, 2,999, at 6:00 p.m. So said my father. But beware. 6626 at 6:00 p.m. June 6, 26. That's this year. That's in about five months. Well, 6626 at 6 p.m. Mhm. What's 6 + 6? Well, it would have to be 12. Plus 26. Well, that would be Before that it had 2,900. No, that's a different number. That it said 2,000. But if you add six, six, six, and six. How do we do that? Add that up. 66 and six. 18 plus 26. That'd be 44. Plus 8. 2 + 6. Oh, plus eight. 22 + 6. Yeah. Two. It's 2 and six makes 26. So 666, it's 24 + 2 is 26. So if you take the numbers, individual numbers. So you got four sixes. Yeah. Is 24. 24 + 2 is 26. 26. Yeah. So 26 is reconfirmed again. And 26 is the total value of the Tetragrammaton, which is 2 * 13. And it was in there another time before this, you read something about 26. Yeah. Because I was thinking it was 2 * 13. Well, and in, and in a bunch of the documents we have, like they disembarked when they came over to recover the scrolls in 1177 to 1180. Sir Ralph de Sudeley, they lost the ship around Newfoundland. When they got to the mouth of the St. Lawrence, they dropped off we 20 and 6. Yeah. Mhm. They said it that way. Not 26. We 20 and six. And this is spelled, this is spelled out, 20 and six. Can you read that again? The whole statement. You mean that part? Yeah. And the sentence before that, "My spirit will return at the end of the sixth day, June 6th, by the new counting, 2,999, at 6:00 p.m. So said my father. But beware. 6626 at 6:00 p.m." What is the year? 2026. Now. Yes. And 66 has got to be June 6th. It makes sense. At 6 p.m. June 6th at 6 p.m. So what's going to happen? It's going to be three days before my birthday, obviously. Beware. Well, yeah. So, Beware. Preparation for. That doesn't sound good. No. Beware. What happens next? So, he says he will return 2,999 years, but beware of 6626 at 6:00 p.m. We got any comments coming by? Anything on the radar, Randall? Not that I know of. As far as this coming June. It's not when the meteor shower is. Well, I mean, to me, that would indicate some type of astronomical something happening.

and probably not good. I mean, don't we have some things that are supposedly coming towards the Earth right now?

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's Yeah. Nothing that Well, 20 uh 29 it's what's the name of it again? Becket not fat. um um the comet that's going to come by come very close to Earth in 2029. And the question is is is it going to be deflected enough in its orbit so that when makes the return the next cycle around that it could actually be >> uh you know targeted right on the earth >> on the earth right >> um >> I got to look it up. I can't remember.

>> But when is that supposed to happen?

>> 2029.

>> Well 2029 is the first passage.

>> Apous.

>> Apous. Yeah.

>> Of course the meteor shower you said happens every year that you said >> we go through the to meteor. Yeah. Yeah.

>> What is that?

>> This isn't the end.

>> It's October toward

>> right

>> October, November.

>> Tor meteor shower has two peaks.

>> Uh summertime peak, which is late June, early July, and fall time peak, which is uh pretty much centered right on Halloween.

>> Okay.

>> Late October, early November.

>> So, it wouldn't be that. No.

>> However, that's probably the meteor shower that's had the most effect on the Earth over the last couple of thousand years.

>> Okay. Maybe even going back to the younger Dus.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. There's more to be said about that, but go on. Let's Let's

>> Also, be not fooled by the false prophet, spelled P R O Fi T.

>> Oh, that's interesting.

>> And his clone who will rise on the third day after his death.

>> You know what came to mind? the false prophet. P R O F I T Trump.

>> Oh,

>> And his clone Vance.

>> Maybe.

>> Also, be not fooled.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, we're not fooled, but a lot of people are. I don't know if that's what it means, but I find that very interesting.

>> Sure. Well, I think part of the idea here is these, you know, this could be referring to archetypes. Yeah.

>> That that play out in multiple ways down down here.

>> Not necessarily an individual, but individuals represent that archetype.

>> Correct.

>> In their time period.

>> Yes.

>> Or during their time.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> That's what it says. I I not sure what to think about that.

>> Okay. And now we're getting to the end. Know this, in the beginning was the word and that word was God. There was none before him. There was none after him. The word is eternal.

>> Wow.

>> Interestingly too, you know, the word was God. Where's my pen?

>> G O D.

>> You took my pen there, Scott. Did I?

>> You're one of those people.

>> I am one of those. Damn. I almost got away with it. But if you write God using the Greek letters, the square, the circle and the equilateral triangle, you know, gamma, omocrron, delta,

>> gumatria,

>> well could be. Yeah, I mean gamma, what is that? Alpha, beta, gamma. So this is three. Omron is 70, right? And this is four. So you'd have 374. Now there's probably other associations with that but this is not necessarily how God actually in the Greek god is

>> theosh

>> but it's just interesting that if you take the English letters of the spelling of God and substitute into Greek letters you get the three three uh symbols of geometry which are you know the the the right angle the circle and

>> the circle and the triangle and the equal lateral trunk.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> So, gamma omocron delta.

>> It may have something to do with the the area within those shapes and outside like squaring a circle.

>> Mhm. Well, what is also interesting is that adds up to 14 or no. Yes.

>> Well, you know,

>> 374, right?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. 374 is 14.

>> And you know that in the tarot deck there's 22 major trumps.

>> Yes. And the 14th is temperance. Should look up some symbolism having to do with temperance

>> as in temperance, fortitude, prudence, and justice.

>> There's also a Venus Jupiter conjun conjunction around June 6th.

>> June 6.

>> A very bright.

>> Oh, Jupiter and Venus. That'll be so

>> very spectacular, huh? So beautiful.

>> Okay. So what do you think?

>> Well, what I think is that you know what I've suspected all along is that there is an origin like a a primordial Christianity that preceded the councils,

>> right?

>> Uh when it became essentially hijacked to serve as a doctrinire for

>> state

>> manipulation and control.

>> Yes, that's right. That's right. and the original ideals of it and meanings were suppressed and became heresy and then were resurrected. I think that the contemplers played an important role in that reaching back to the original gnostic traditions as did the Cathars.

>> Yeah, for sure.

>> And this is why

>> for sure they were practicing the truest form of Christianity at the time.

>> At the time.

>> And and that's that's why they were killed.

>> That's why they had to be suppressed. Yes. And then now this idea that the temp see because I figured ever since I read Plato and the Tmus where he's talking about you know beyond the pillars of Heracles are the group of islands and beyond those are islands. Yeah.

>> And beyond that is the true continent. And that's a reference you know from 300 BC

>> right?

>> And that to me was like the lurking variable if you know what that is. You know what a lurking variable is in statistics. the lurking variable is the outlier that could usually typically be ignored, right? Because oh well, we're doing a bunch of dates and they're all clustering around 2000, but then we get this date from 20, you know, 200 and 200. It's an outlier. Well, there's, you know, it's an oddity. We don't need to ignore it, right?

>> Right. Because it's not going to affect the statistical outcome. A lurking variable on the other hand, if you introduce that into your statistical equation, it changes the outcome totally.

>> Right. Okay.

>> Right.

>> And uh I don't know where I was going with that.

>> Well, let let's go back to what you were talking about with Plato and they're referring to these these islands.

>> Yes.

>> I mean, aren't they talking about North America? is that

>> well I think he's talking about the Azors which would have been

>> right

>> once upon a time very prominent in the during the late glacial maximum the Azors would have been a major island

>> sea level 300 to 400 ft

>> 400 ft

>> right right

>> but you're something else too you're raising sea bottom because of isostatic adjustment

>> good point you're around the ice sheets around the ice sheets

>> the ice sheets yeah when you're removing the ice sheets

>> you get isostatic rebound y

>> yes that weight has to go somewhere else because the geoid is constantly trying to maintain equilibrium.

>> If one place goes up, somewhere else needs to go down.

>> Yep.

>> Yeah. So, I think that there was probably a tradition going back to the ice age that there was people probably sailing the Atlantic during the ice age because we look islands all around the world were populated between 30 and 50,000 years ago. So clearly ice age people from 30 40 50,000 years ago had some seafaring capabilities.

>> Well, no question about it. In fact, um who was the guy that I interviewed on America on Earth uh who wrote across Arctic ice u archaeologist, really good guy. I can't think of his name right now. He's passed away since we shot that. But what he argued was that during the maximum of uh you know, the glacial ice sheets, they uh were hunting seals and animals in the ocean and they went right across the ice and they can track the movement by the uh obsidian points that they made. And what they're what they're doing is the fishermen are taking their nets and they're going down to the bottom of the ocean. They're scraping on the bottom and they were picking up points from sightes on the bottom of the ocean three and 400 feet that during the maximum they're they're picking them up now, but during the ice sheets maximum that was they were on the coast, right?

>> Yeah. Above ground suberial

>> and exactly. And so what they're saying is that these people migrated from what is now Europe across Arctic ice and came over to what is now the eastern coastline of North America of the United States. That's what they're finding these points that they can trace back

>> to uh the same style of point they can trace back to

>> places in Europe. Well, and then on the other side, you've got it looks like coastal migration

>> coming across the bearing land bridge, not through the ice three corridor,

>> but along the

>> along along the margins of the of the glacial ice along the oceans, right?

>> Yes. Makes sense.

>> Yeah, that makes and you know what, it's so funny that you talk about, you know, the the the migration through the corridor there. That was what we were taught back in high school and college. And I actually used that in my first book in the uh on Lake Superior Agots when I talked about the migration of humans. And it's a straight progression all the way down to the bottom of South America. And now I'm like, "Oh god, do I did I really do that?"

>> I did. We're going to have to change that in the next edition. Yeah. So that's that's interesting because the ice free corridor, you know, was probably between somewhere between, you know, marsh, pete land,

>> perafrost. It wouldn't have been an easy trek. Let's put it that way.

>> It would have been cold as hell.

>> Yeah, it would have been cold as hell. It would have not have been an easy trick. No,

>> there would have been large volumes of melt water, probably regular flash floods.

>> Um, yes. So, it seems I'm not saying that it was impossible, but it would have been challenging.

>> It would have been challenging, but life finds a way, right?

>> Life finds a way. But, you know, the idea of the the coastal migration

>> to me seems to make more sense.

>> It makes more sense to me, too. Yeah. Yeah.