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Probably the biggest thing that I'm concerned about and worried about right now, uh, is the existential risk that AI poses to the economy, to humanity, to the world. I think there is a real chance that we blow ourselves up. I hate saying that. There are almost an infinite number of ways that that can happen.
Of course, you know, I think the one that I want to say the Anthropic CEO recently brought up, which is on my mind and a lot of people's minds are, you know, uh, the next virus, right, that's AI-designed. Uh, the artificial intelligence is getting recursive over the last few weeks. So, OpenAI basically came out with their model called Codeex. And in kind of the log of how that model was formed, they admitted that the AI is now writing itself and improving itself. So that's the thing that we've all been worried about the last few years. That is the big existential risk. Once the AI starts writing itself, it starts to accelerate how good it is and what it's capable of doing.
Um, so now we're actually, you know, over the course of the last year, AI was mostly the same and then we get a little model bump, right, guys? But it was mostly the same over the past year. What we're seeing over the course of the last few weeks is acceleration. And we do not know where that acceleration is going to take us because now we have agents that are in there making the code better, right? We have agents that are figuring out how to make the next AI. And when that starts happening, we really do not have a sense for how quickly this moves.
So obviously when it's accelerating and moving quickly, that could result in a lot of really amazing things like our ability to have personalized feature-length films that are indistinguishable from what Hollywood has been producing. But it also has the ability to give bad actors, uh, uh, the know-how to create a virus in their bedroom and to tell them exactly how to deploy that to destroy the world. Okay. So like as scary as that sounds, that's real, guys. And like I am not someone that was really that worried about it up until two weeks ago.
>> So how would you, how would you express that as a question? Does AI move too quickly to the point where we can't contain it and control the negative consequences of it falling into the hands of bad actors? And if the answer to that is yes, it's moving that quickly and we're not able to contain it, we're not able to work together as, as companies and as countries, if we're not able to collaborate with other labs, with China to say, "Hey, I know we're competing against each other, but this is more important." Right? So the same way that we did with nuclear arms, right? We all wanted to have the best and the most nukes. At some point, we all figured out that, hey guys, if we continue to go down this road, we're, we're done. We're all cooked because someone that we don't want to have nukes is going to get the nukes. So, we have to come together and realize that our collective power, we have to ensure that no one else gets these nukes. And we're going to have to, to also kind of tone it down ourselves here in terms of what we do with the nukes that we have. So, that was actually pretty miraculous. Um, that's amazing. And we need to do the same thing again. Will we, can we, or is this, is this moving so fast that we don't even have the time and the right people and the right people in politics right now to actually sense what's happening and to put proper measures in place to have those conversations?
>> People already do this though. What makes AI so unique and that it could accelerate this to that degree?
>> No, I mean, AI is bringing the cost of all intelligence down to close to zero. It's fully democratizing all intelligence.
>> But like if someone wants to destroy humanity, they, they did, they won't have the ability today, but they might in a year from now.
>> Yes. Yeah. I, I think the ability to destroy humanity will get meaningfully easier, uh, with artificial intelligence and agentic AI. I just told you how, how a person with no technological know-how can create a business that would take dozens and dozens of employees and maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars and months to years of time. How your random friend from high school with no technical know-how can do that in 48 hours for $600 in their bedroom. So that's a good thing. Mhm.
>> But that person can also do something evil with $600 in their bedroom now because they have a whole army of super intelligent agents that can work with them and figure out how to put all the pieces of this master plan together, right? And how to actually enact it and do it.
>> And so what conclusion does your brain go to when you start asking yourself these questions? I don't let myself go, go there. It, I, I tell myself that I am not one of those people that can actually enact change. I hope there are people that will actually take those steps who are working at the big labs, who are working in government. Um, that's not me. So, I'm not, I'm not going to like.
>> Why don't you give a message to the people watching because chances are there might be somebody in the group who can make a change and listening to you might be the push they need just to get it over that edge.
>> I hope someone can leverage this technology and this intelligence to help figure out how regular people can actually enact change with the head of, of these labs and with government, right? Like, like you don't have to go at it alone. Let the AI help you figure out what we should be doing collectively. Everybody has their one political cause that they'll go to a rally for, they'll contribute money to. It's astonishing to me that more people aren't making this their cause because this is the thing that could just take us all down really quickly and then nothing else actually matters. All your other causes don't really matter. So, I think a big part of it is people don't yet fully appreciate how real it is and what's happened in the last two weeks.
>> And that's purely because of the AI agents.
>> That's correct.
>> It's just that.
>> That's correct.
>> So, I was seeing it explode online unlike anything I've seen in a long time. The use of it was originally like clawed code, right, is like what they would, or Claude Bot, >> is what they would say. And then it turned into open claw, right? So.
>> Well, and by the way, also, you know, Codeex by OpenAI again, being, you know, outwardly coming out and saying, hey, we're using the AI is now writing itself and now improving itself. That's a big piece of it as well. So there are a couple things going on here. There's agentic AI, but there's also the fact that these labs have figured out how to leverage the AI itself to improve itself.
But it's not your job to predict the future in terms of how will this all play out. Will humanity end up destroying itself or will we end up being able to come to agreements with competitors and thrive because of it? It's your job to be able to see in a snapshot, present tense, right now, for what it is, and then find asymmetrical information stuff that you can see for what the reality is and other people, they don't see it that way, and you can make money off that difference.
>> That's exactly correct. Um, I'm more focused on, uh, properly assessing the ground truth that is the present, as opposed to trying to predict the future. And there's so much happening in the present. It's changing every day. And the amount of misinformation and noise has never been bigger, which means that the opportunity for someone who's able to properly assess what's real and what's not real is huge.
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