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Cloud Code plus Karpathy are about to destroy every lead gen agency in the next 12 months, including ours, and I'm going to show you exactly what I mean. We have over 50 customers generating anywhere from 200 to 300 positive responses per day, and we had an enterprise customer that we presented the strategy to, and it doubled their reply rates without us writing a single email or manually uploading any leads to any of their campaigns.
So, in this video, I'm going to go over what we did, and by the end, I'm going to give away the repository so you can install this for your own business as well, too. So, before we get into the actual meat and potatoes of everything that we did, I thought we would first go over the results.
I used the SmartLead API to pull the reply rates, and as you can see, between April 6th to 17th, our automatic campaigns produced 20.71 replies per 1,000, and the other campaigns produced 10.71 replies per 1,000, and then it stayed strong week over week as well, too. So, our automatic campaigns were getting this reply rate, and then our other campaigns were getting just around a 1% reply rate, while into the second week when we were still running, it still kept that pace as well. So, it wasn't just a little bit of a fluke.
So, now that you've seen the results, let's talk about what we actually did here. Andre Karpathy is a software engineer that used to work at OpenAI, and from time to time he comes out with these amazing ideas, and he shares them as open-source repositories. He created a repository he called Auto Research that he was using in order to train a small local model in order to get some kind of computation right that he wanted to be able to do personally, and it basically ran an experiment every 5 minutes to self-improve itself, and it would run experiments, figure out what worked, and then keep progressing forward. Basically, giving you machine learning capabilities straight from your MacBook.
As soon as I heard about this, I thought, "Oh my gosh, you know what the number that we want to optimize for is positive reply rate, we should install this as well, too." And so then, we presented this to this enterprise customer who is totally game. And what was funny is when we actually set it up with Cloud Code, Cloud Code actually threw away Karpathy's repository cuz it wasn't actually necessary to use that. It's just simply the idea of what we're trying to achieve. That's the most important part.
And so, what we've done is we've created a system that can read through all of the past campaigns that you've sent with the copywriting and what were the leads and who were the companies that we were targeting. And then, it can look at who negatively responded and who positively responded and which campaigns had the highest positive response rate so that it can keep doing more of the thing that's working and less of the things that aren't working and doesn't require a human to intervene and come up with all of the new ideas.
And so, if I were to give you the repository right now, you would actually be shocked at how much of the auto research part it actually is. And it's actually all about getting context about your company. Because without really good context, none of this is going to matter. And so, this visualization is just based off of all the skills that we have based into the repository and goes over what we need.
So, when you start this auto research skill, you're first going to enter your website and it's going to just learn everything about your company and your offer that it automatically can. So, we'll enter their website in step one, in step two, you'll do your auto onboarding draft, and then for step three, you're going to fill in some of the gaps. And so, I would highly recommend you go for a walk and you start recording a voice memo and just dump as much context about your dream outbound campaigns and who your target customer is. Take that transcript and then give that transcript to Codex or Claude Code or wherever you're going to run this so it has an unbelievably great amount of context about your company.
What it's then going to do is it's going to create an ICP markdown file, it's going to create a case study markdown file, it's going to start getting a value proposition markdown file, a problem statement markdown file, and start filling in those things so it now has the context about your company, what your customers care about, how you help them, all those other things.
After the context, we have also found that pulling your entire TAM is incredibly important in order to run this process. Because one mistake that we made when we were first running this is we were letting Claude try to make game time decisions about, "Hey, I want to run an experiment on companies that recently released a new product. Let me go find companies that recently founded a new product, and let's run a campaign to that. And then, it just would make decisions that weren't really that great, and it wouldn't get good coverage, and then there weren't actually that many companies that launched new products, so then the sample size was small, and it just it just didn't work.
So, now what we do is when we're taking customers through this process internally, we build the entire TAM with every conceivable data point or qualitative signal that you would want to know about these companies, we just get it all done up front. So, that when Claude Code or Codex is reviewing all of the data for the experiments that it can run, it doesn't make any game time decisions. All the data is just done, and it's super easy with Claude Code and Codex to keep this data updated on a monthly basis, so that everything is fresh and new.
And here's an example we made for another company. And as you can see, what this company really cared about is they wanted to target B2B SaaS companies, but the main thing that they wanted to know is, as you can see, this is all just data that you'd be able to get from Clay and their derived data points. And then you see we have this custom data right here, where we have their demo booking CTA, the contact sales CTA, the soft match, and the match text, and all these things.
This company, it's really important for them to know, does this company have a talk to sales button, a get a demo button, meet with somebody button, what is their sales motion? This is the most important thing for this customer. The second most important thing is figuring out what is this company's pricing. What's the lowest pricing that they list on the website, and what's the highest pricing that they list on the website? Do they have enterprise? Do they have a free trial? And we got all of that data done right here.
The other thing that we did is we don't necessarily have a use case for this right now, but what if one day we wanted to run an experiment where we wanted to know, okay, what about companies that had a sales leader, but no sales individual contributors? Or there was a lot of sales individual contributors, but there was no sales leader? Or there's a lot of marketing leaders, but no individual contributors? Or the ratio of all of them? So, we even got how many sales leaders there are, how many sales individual contributors there are, how many leaders there are on the marketing team, do they have a CRO, do they have a VP of sales, do they have a director of sales, do they have a CMO, do they have a VP of marketing, do they have a go-to-market engineer, are they running meta ads, are they running Google ads, do they have case studies listed on their website, what case studies do they mention, what's their offer summary? We have all of this data already put in here.
And I just go over all of this and to kind of just inundate you with what's possible that what you want to do when you set this up is just get any data point you could reasonably want to know about done inside of Claude Code. To short cut this, I think most of the data that we used was with Rapid API, Apify, Prospeo, Blitz API, and then that website crawling that you saw, that was all done with an open source library called HTML to text to be able to find the keywords about the book a meeting and all of those other things. And then we used the Batch API to do some AI processing with GPT-5 Nano. The Apify MCP was also great for finding the ads data and things like that.
All of these things are all in easy Google search or just ask Claude Code, "Hey, the data that I want to know is this. What's a good data provider for that?" And Claude Code is going to point you in the right direction, for sure.
Now we've got everything. We have your social proof, your context, the companies in your TAM, what do they look like, what are the different data points, everything. And then that's when Claude or Codex starts creating the first round of experiments for us to run. A lot of you might have heard the saying, "The list is the message." It will create campaigns based on, all right, what are the cool data points that we can find here that can uncover some pain for us, what are some just overall campaigns that share value propositions that we should send. And so it uses that underlying data with your context and then suggest the campaigns for you.
After you approve the experiments that you want it to run, it will even say, "Hey, based on my knowledge, this is an email that I would send." I would say I spent no time trying to perfect this email writing thing because when we give this away for free to everybody, you all are going to have your own opinion on what a good cold email looks like. So it's going to give you a suggestion of what to send based on the experiment and based on the context, but it will also present you with three to five contacts with all of the information about the contacts and the companies, so that you can write the message, and then you don't have to blame me for saying that the messaging isn't good. Just write the message based on if this is a VP of sales and they have a demo button and they don't have a sales team, this is what I would say. And then you can build your own messaging skill into the repository as well, too.
So, now we have all the ingredients for an outbound campaign. We have our company list, we have our contact list, we have the context about the sales offer that we're doing, and then we have the experiments, and we have the copywriting. Then it loads everything into SmartLead and everything into Instantly to be able to run the first batch of campaigns.
What I then suggest you do is you use Codex in order to They have an automation button and I would run an automation every Friday to use this repository to review the past performance and help come up with the next round of campaigns that we should be trying. And then approve that copywriting and then push it all in. You could I am not even going to attempt to release this internally. We have it automatically making the campaigns and then sending them. I am not even going to attempt to release this for free and make that the promise. You still will have to see the next round of campaigns, you'll see the insights from what you learned in the last week, and then you'll be able to make decisions on what campaigns you're going to run next week. It's not set to automatically run. I'm sure you can just prompt it to automatically run on your side as well, but I just don't want to make that that kind of promise.
A couple of things that I urge you not to change about the repository is you want to make sure that the CTA is locked. I have it in there that one fear we had was when we set this up for a customer, we would accidentally come up with a campaign where it would just give away the software for free. We locked the CTA. So, if you say, "I want to book meetings," then it's going to be locked to booking meetings. If you say you want to give out a lead magnet or you have some kind of offer of a lead magnet, it's going to get locked to that. It might come up with different ways to say the CTA, but it's going to get locked onto that CTA. And I think that's the most important part.
We already have in in there that unless Million Verifier has approved the email, it cannot be put into Smart Lead. I showed you guys that we put all the customers, companies, and their TAM file into Superbase. For you, it'll locally just run inside of a CSV file so that you don't have to go crazy and put it on the cloud or anything. And then, we hard-coded in that it has user approval as well. And then, it'll learn every week. I would just say, "Hey, Codex or Cloud Code, schedule this so that it runs every week with a routine on Cloud Code or an automation on Codex." And then, [music] you'll get the suggested next round of tests, and then you'd be able to approve those and see the copywriting and everything, and then upload everything to Smart Lead with all the contacts because it even will keep track of who you reached out to and who you haven't so that you can keep running these new experiments and all this.
I personally think that this is going to usher in the next era of marketing where AI is kind of running these experiments faster than a human would be able to. The previous round of outbound that we were just in was kind of this world of, "Okay, now we can have as much data as possible. Let's see all the crazy things that we can do with it." But now, we're going to give all the contacts and all the data to AI, and AI will be able to run way more variations than you'll ever ever be able to run by yourself. And I I personally think that this is the future not only of outbound marketing, paid media, organic and we're already seeing it being done by other people as well, too.
If you are a B2B business owner doing over $3 million in revenue and you have a sales team that doesn't have enough leads, and you don't want to touch this, and you want a company to install it for you, we always launch our first campaign for somebody for free. There's a link below in the video description where you can apply to launch your first campaign with us for free. We'll use our infrastructure. We'll pull the list. We'll do the copywriting. We'll do everything for you and validate that we can get you leads before you ever sign a contract with us. If you're interested in that, the link is down below in the video description, and I hope to see you there. Thanks for watching.