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Lawrence: Trump is using the government shutdown to shut down the Epstein files

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Then I won't be sure if it's not you. That's the tricky not you. That's the tricky thing.

"We'll see."

"We'll see."

"We'll see."

"Thanks, Jen."

"Thanks, Jen."

"Thanks, Lauren."

"Thanks, Lauren."

"Thank you. Well, today, an ordinary American girl from."

"An ordinary."

"American family."

Brought down a British.

"Prince with her truth and extraordinary courage."

"That is."

"The first."

"Sentence of."

"A statement released."

"By the."

"Family of a woman."

"Who accused."

"The man who the."

"British until today called."

"Prince Andrew of raping her."

"When she was 17 years old."

"The British press and the."

"Press around the world is."

"Reporting tonight what the New."

"York Times calls, quote, an."

"Extraordinary punishment that."

"That man."

"Named Andrew has now."

"Suffered at the hands."

"Of his."

"Brother."

"Who is the."

"Current claimant."

"Of the."

"Title King of England."

"His older brother, a so-called King, had."

"Already taken his house."

"Away on the palace grounds."

"And banished him to his still."

"Royal country house. And today."

"Finally."

"The absurd title has been."

"Removed. The extraordinary."

"Punishment the New York Times."

"Is."

"Referring to is that Andrew."

"Will no longer."

"Be."

"Called a prince."

"End quote."

"Will now be known as."

"Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor."

"And while we're."

"On."

"The subject."

"Windsor is a fake."

"Name too."

"Windsor is."

"An invented name used."

"To mask."

"The German heritage of."

"The people who have been claiming."

"The position of royal family in."

"Britain for the entire 20th and."

"21st century. In 1917, in the."

"Middle."

"Of the."

"First World War with England."

"Fighting against Germany, the."

"So-called British Royal Family."

"Decided."

"To mask."

"Their German."

"Background by plucking from."

"Out of nowhere, the classically."

"English-sounding name."

"Windsor. And suddenly claiming."

"It as their own. The truth."

"Is."

"A name change is not."

"Punishment. If you offer."

"Jeffrey Epstein the option of."

"Being arrested."

"And sent to prison as a."

"Child rapist, or having."

"To change his name, which do."

"You think he would have."

"Chosen?"

"And so."

"Now the big punishment for."

"Andrew is that no one in."

"Britain."

"Will call him the Duke of."

"York or his Royal Highness."

"Which no sane person anywhere."

"Ever should."

"Have called him. None of."

"Those preposterous."

"Descriptors."

"Of that."

"Human being have."

"Ever been allowed on."

"This program. He had his."

"Titles removed."

"From him."

"On this program. On the first mention."

"Of his disgraced name here."

"Nothing changed today."

"There was no."

"New."

"Evidence for Andrew's."

"Older brother."

"To suddenly react today, but."

"The weight of Jeffrey Epstein's."

"Legacy forced the."

"King of England."

"To."

"Symbolically and only."

"Symbolically distance himself."

"From his deeply."

"Epstein involved."

"Little brother."

"The manipulative, so-called."

"King."

"Wants it."

"Both ways. He wants to."

"Suggest."

"That there's a."

"Possibility."

"That his little brother did."

"Not rape."

"Virginia Giuffre."

"As she claimed. And so."

"The statement issued."

"By the."

"King's press release."

"Writers said."

"These censures are deemed."

"Necessary, notwithstanding the."

"Fact that he continues to deny."

"The allegations against him. And."

"Then the King's."

"Writers tell this lie about."

"The rest."

"Of the family, saying their."

"Majesties wish to."

"Make clear that their."

"Thoughts."

"And utmost sympathies have."

"Been and will remain."

"With the."

"Victims and survivors of any."

"And all."

"Forms of abuse."

"Okay."

"Then, give them the houses."

"On your country estates you."

"Just gave your accused rapist."

"Little brother, another country."

"House on your family's estates."

"To live in for free for the."

"Rest of his life. And you claim."

"That your utmost sympathies are."

"Not."

"With."

"Your little brother, the."

"Accused rapist, but your utmost."

"Sympathies are with, quote, the."

"Victims and survivors of any."

"And all."

"Forms of abuse."

"Do you."

"Mean any and."

"All."

"Forms of abuse visited upon."

"People around the."

"World by the British Crown throughout its."

"Ugly history? Or do you just."

"Mean the."

"Survivors of any and."

"All forms of abuse delivered."

"Directly to them by individual."

"Members of your family?"

"The New York."

"Times points."

"Out today."

"That Charles."

"And his little brother have."

"Done quite a job on."

"That whole concept of."

"British."

"Support of a."

"Monarchy."

"During their."

"Public lifetimes. In 2023, a."

"Poll of British social."

"Attitudes by the National."

"Center for."

"Social Research found."

"That."

"54% of people surveyed."

"Said that it was."

"Very or."

"Quite important."

"For Britain to have a."

"Monarchy."

"Compared with 86% in 1983."

"That 86% support of a."

"Monarchy."

"Was in the second year of."

"Charles' first marriage to Diana."

"Which ended miserably and."

"Helped drive."

"Support of."

"The Monarchy down every day."

"With Andrew then bursting into."

"Public view much later to drag."

"It down into the mud from which."

"We can hope."

"It then sinks and."

"Disappears."

"The difference between the."

"Charles, who calls himself."

"A King, and the Donald."

"Who wants."

"To be."

"One, is that."

"Donald Trump."

"Does not care what comes."

"After him."

"Charles wants the Monarchy."

"To live forever. Donald Trump."

"Knows that he cannot live."

"Forever. Donald Trump knows."

"That his presidency."

"Cannot."

"Live forever. So Donald Trump."

"Knows that all he has to."

"Do is."

"Keep the Epstein files secret."

"For the next three and a half."

"Years, and the intensity of."

"Donald Trump's apparent need to."

"Keep the Epstein files secret."

"Becomes more vivid every day."

"Especially with every new day."

"Of the government shutdown."

"Congressman Robert Garcia is a."

"Leader of the Democrats, who."

"Have joined."

"With some Republicans in the."

"House."

"Of Representatives."

"Who are trying to have the Epstein files released, and he."

"Now sees."

"The government."

"Shutdown as being as much or."

"More."

"About the Epstein files."

"As it is about the federal."

"Budget."

"It's criminal. This is."

"Outrageous that we have a duly."

"Elected member certified. The."

"Election has been certified by."

"Her own state. There's over."

"800,000 people in the state of."

"Arizona with no representation."

"In Congress, because Mike."

"Johnson is afraid of the."

"Epstein files and is currently."

"Right now playing cover-up for."

"Donald Trump and the White."

"House. This idea that we now."

"Have a shutdown because they're."

"Too scared of the truth,."

"They're too scared of getting."

"Justice for the survivors of."

"Women, women and girls that."

"Have been trafficked, as we."

"Know in the past by Jeffrey."

"Epstein and other powerful men."

"And so this shutdown has be-."

"Come, I think, really emblematic of."

"The corruption in the."

"Republican Party."

"We now have a shutdown."

"Because you are too scared of."

"The truth. The shutdown."

"Appeared."

"To be about budget."

"Issues at the beginning. But."

"As it drags on with absolutely."

"No attempt to negotiate those."

"Budget issues, you have a right."

"To wonder what it is really."

"About and what the Speaker of."

"The House using the government."

"Shutdown as an excuse for not."

"Swearing in the newest elected."

"Member of the House of."

"Representatives, who would."

"Become the decisive vote in the."

"House to release the Epstein."

"Files, gives Congressman Garcia."

"More than enough evidence to."

"Reasonably argue that, quote,."

"We now have a shutdown because."

"You are too scared of the truth."

"If the shutdown is not about."

"The Epstein files, then prove."

"It. Speaker Johnson can swear in."

"The newest elected member of."

"The House of Representatives."

"Tomorrow, Adelita Grijalva."

"And the only reason he is not doing."

"That is that she would then."

"Immediately become the decisive."

"Vote to release the Epstein."

"Files. Technically, she would."

"Become the 218th signature on a."

"So-called discharge petition."

"Which forces a vote in the."

"House of Representatives on."

"Releasing the Epstein files, a."

"Vote everyone knows will pass."

"And so Donald Trump travels the."

"World, avoiding any possible."

"Negotiation to end the shutdown."

"Because the shutdown shuts down."

"The Epstein files, Donald Trump."

"Proves the pointlessness of his."

"World travels whenever he talks."

"About them today on Air Force."

"One, after his meetings in."

"China, he told reporters."

"Something that would be."

"Unthinkable for any other."

"President in that situation."

"He said, quote, Taiwan never came."

"Up. It was not discussed."

"Taiwan never came up. No."

"Kidding. It never comes up."

"Unless the American President."

"Brings it up. No Chinese."

"Dictator has ever jumped into a."

"Discussion on Taiwan unless."

"Forced to by an American."

"President. And so Donald Trump."

"Is treating himself as just a."

"Spectator in the back of the."

"Room saying Taiwan never came."

"Up. Don't know why, it just."

"Never came up, thereby proving."

"The utter pointlessness of the."

"Trump world tour, other than as."

"A distraction from the Epstein."

"Files, a distraction from the."

"Cruelties that Donald Trump is."

"Inflicting around the world and."

"At home every day. Of course,."

"Taiwan never came up. It would."

"Only come up between, in a."

"Serious discussion between a."

"President of the United States."

"And a Chinese dictator."

"And that is not what was happening."

"Donald Trump said he was going."

"To change his illegal and."

"Unconstitutional tariff."

"Structure with China, leaving."

"Most of the illegal and."

"Unconstitutional tariffs in."

"Place. And he did that a week."

"Before the United States."

"Supreme Court will hear the."

"First case brought to them."

"Challenging the illegal and."

"Unconstitutional Trump tariffs."

"This week is the worst week for."

"Donald Trump to be playing."

"Arbitrary public games, with."

"His tariffs showing how non-policy based they actually."

"Are. But that is how confident."

"He is that the Supreme Court."

"He appointed will let him do what."

"He wants to do. Donald Trump."

"Must believe that his Supreme."

"Court will find a way to change."

"The Constitution for him, and."

"Remove Congress's exclusive,."

"Constitutionally granted power."

"By the founders to set tariffs."

"Donald Trump was asked no."

"Questions today about Jeffrey."

"Epstein. White House reporters."

"Know that asking a question."

"About Jeffrey Epstein means to."

"Things: they won't get an answer."

"And they won't get another."

"Question. So they ask no questions."

"About the British."

"Reaction to what appears to be."

"The release of Virginia Roberts."

"Giuffre memoir, titled Nobody's."

"Girl: A Memoir of Surviving."

"Abuse and Fighting for Justice."

"Virginia Giuffre survived."

"Jeffrey Epstein's abuse and."

"Ghislaine Maxwell's physical abuse."

"Of her as long as she could."

"But she ended her own life in."

"April of this year, leaving her."

"Co-authored a complete her book."

"That has just been released."

"But Donald Trump flying around."

"The world to avoid the pressure."

"Of the Epstein files. While the."

"British Monarchy fears their."

"Own collapse under the pressure."

"Of the Epstein files and."

"Virginia Giuffre memoir. With."

"All of that happening, her."

"Family released a statement."

"Today saying, quote, Today an."

"Ordinary American girl from an."

"Ordinary American family."

"Brought down a British prince."

"With her truth and extraordinary courage. Virginia."

"Roberts Giuffre, our sister, a."

"Child when she was sexually."

"Assaulted by Andrew, never."

"Stopped fighting for."

"Accountability for what had."

"Happened to her and to."

"Countless other survivors like."

"Her. Today, she declares her."

"Victory. We, her family, along."

"With her survivor sisters,."

"Continue Virginia's battle and."

"Will not rest until the same."

"Accountability applies to all."

"Of the abusers and abettors."

"Connected to Jeffrey Epstein."

"And Ghislaine Maxwell. Today,."

"Over 20 survivors of the abuse."

"Visited upon them by Jeffrey."

"Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell."

"Urged the House of."

"Representatives to swear in the."

"Newest elected member of the."

"House and allow her to become."

"The deciding vote on the."

"Epstein files. Their statement."

"Says the continued refusal to."

"Seat her is an unacceptable."

"Breach of democratic norms and."

"A disservice to the American."

"People, even more concerning."

"To us as survivors, this delay."

"Appears to be a deliberate."

"Attempt to block her."

"Participation in the discharge."

"Petition that would force a."

"Vote to unseal the Epstein."

"Maxwell files. The American."

"Public has a right to."

"Transparency and accountability."

"And we as survivors deserve."

"Justice. Any attempt to."

"Obstruct a vote on this matter."

"By manipulating House procedure."

"Or denying elected members."

"Their seats is a direct affront."

"To that right, and adds insult to."

"Our trauma. Speaker Johnson."

"Must stop using procedural."

"Tactics to protect the powerful."

"And instead uphold the."

"Integrity of our democratic."

"Institutions. Our trauma is not."

"A pawn in your political games."

"Every day you stall is another."

"Day survivors are denied."

"Justice and the American people."

"Are denied the truth. Swear in."