No F*cks Given ft. Kylie Jenner | Khloé In Wonder Land

Kylie, you're my [ __ ]. I don't know if I've ever been on a podcast before. Kylie and I are getting soed up today. Chloe, please.

What is something that you think about all the time? Aliens. The first scary movie I've ever seen was Signs. What the is science? When you're spiraling, who do you text first? When do you mute our family group chat? You were always muted. What? Truth or dare? Okay. Will you pick? Oh, are you okay? Are you okay? I see your eyes watering. No, mine are glossy from alcohol. Yours are glossy from tears. There's a difference. Sweet.

What was our bonding experience like being pregnant? I don't think we ever expected to be pregnant at the same time. Okay, let's call mom. Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram? Bang, bang, kiss, kiss. What? Show me. Tell me right now and get it down. What are some of your superstitious rituals you do? Sorry, I'm applying my lip liner. Cheers to us. Cheers. And welcome and thank you for being on Chloe and Wonderland. I love you. I love you. I'm so scared to see this episode. You are getting nasty right now. Better calm down. Kylie. Hi. Welcome to Wonderland. Thank you. I'm so happy. I'm so happy that you're here. So happy.

So, I don't know if people know and not like this isn't like a diss. No, it's fine. But this has been like the fourth attempt to get Kylie Jenner on the pod and it. But timing is everything. Timing is everything because you're here now. We're present and Kylie and I are getting soed up today. Yeah. I don't know if we would have done that the other times. Yeah, you're right. We wouldn't have. Timing is everything. But also, can I have the floor? You can say everything. Okay. So, when you first were doing your podcast, we had a date. That's not true. I'm just kidding. We had a date to do it, but I felt like I felt strongly that you needed to have nonfamily members on first to solidify your place in the podcast world. Right. So I felt like you need to do you and then I'll come on. You hoes half the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And also what I do want to say to all the viewers and listeners is that I need to get something off my chest. Oh my god. I'm like wasted. Breaking news. Me too. It's hitting me. So Kylie and I before we started recording, we shared a shot together. Like what the is going to happen this whole time? Okay. But Kylie and I don't really drink that much anymore. And half a shot of vodka and half a martini really us up. Oh yeah. It's also like too when the olives slap you in the face, you know it's a big deal. I'm like so like what's happening? But what I did want to say is that so Kylie and I shot a YouTube video together. Everyone has seen it cuz it's like the most viral sensation. It's definitely the best most watched video on YouTube, but we did that ages ago. So, in honor of that video, we did a YouTube video for your YouTube channel where Kylie and I were so drunk. I literally blacked out in the garage here, which is crazy. And Kylie's security to take me home when I had to hold it together for security. I felt like I was like, "Hello, sir. How are you?" I don't know why. Like I literally had like an accident. That's when um it was like well that's when I I was drinking personally a lot more and in the video I go I took six shots, Chloe took five shots. We're going to start the video. I've taken one shot and I'm like okay half of one with me. Yeah, that's true. And Kylie and I we're here. We have all of Kylie Cosmetics here cuz we're here and we're trying to bring that same energy. But I'm not asking Kylie today like where are you from because you're my sister. Like it's weird if I'm like so how was your childhood? So we're just going to ask random fun questions that probably most interviewers fun. It's fun. It's fun. And whatever you don't want to answer, say it, [ __ ] Shut the up and we don't answer it. And we move on. And these aren't like riveting questions because you're my sister. I can ask you things that another interviewer's too afraid to ask you because they need to be like proper. You [ __ ] I don't need to be proper. And on that note, let's take half a shot. You think so? Chloe, please. I'm not okay. How are you okay? I'm not okay, but I can read still. Okay, so I'm going to take a quarter. Mhm. I Can I just take a big gulp of my martini? It's like the same thing. Whatever you want to do. Okay. I also wanted to say I don't know if I've ever been on a podcast before. What? Right. I don't know. Whose podcast have I been on? Stars. No, I've never been on a podcast before, but I wanted this public announcement. I wanted to start maybe getting on some podcasts, but I couldn't have done that without going on your. Now you're on mine. So, honestly, that's how it should be, though. Yeah. Duh.

Okay. Kylie Kristen Jenner. Why are you scared? No, it's fine. Whatever you don't want to talk about, we're not talking about. It's fine. Okay. I'm just so drunk. Discuss your Roman Empire. Like, what do you think about way too much? What is something It could be the most like I think about the color pink all the time. Whatever it is. What is something that you think about all the time? Aliens, maybe. Yes. Talk to me. Yeah. Probably I just had you and I at this moment just we got so much deeper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we just did. No, this we relate about this a lot. I just love you more and more every day. I don't know what it is ever since I was a child. I think it's because the first scary movie I've ever seen was Signs. What the is Science? Signs, [ __ ] I don't know. with Walking Phoenix. I don't know if I know. I have to see. Maybe if I show you a photo. But the f that was the first scary movie I've ever saw and it just gave me this like intense fear of aliens and that would just be something that I think about a lot. Do you think that they're So are you afraid of them now? Yes. So I want to reassure if aliens were to land on Earth like No, but I would I don't know what I would have to just Kylie, they are among us. You don't have to be afraid. Dr. Steven Greer already said that the government Thank you. that they're going to stage an alien invasion. So, don't believe that. You said they are. They are. Dr. Steven Greer said they are. He said the government is going to try to instill fear in everyone. They're gonna stage an alien invasion. So, [ __ ] I'm good. Okay. When you can't fall asleep at night, what is your go-to scrolling app? Tik Tok. What are you looking up or you're just like mindless on the for you page? Yeah. And what is like your algorithm? It's really It's a lot of animals. Okay. And wait, wait, cut to how many animals do you have? So, I just got two cats and I have lots of dogs. I lost count. Yeah, you have a ton of dogs. But my Tik Tok scroll is like animals, like funny videos of like chickens and you have chickens. Lots of cats. I have chickens, too. Lots of cats. And what else is on my for you page? Like people falling and stuff. That's random. Okay, that is random. Um, how many group chats do you think you have? I I feel like I only speak in group chats. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. So, I feel honored when I have an individual conversation with you. Yes. Okay, cool. I'm like, "Oo, this is serious." If Chloe's texting me on the side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to know what are some of your memories of us growing up in the same house? Like, they could be the most random. Like, I don't know. What are like the things that come to mind? Okay. Do you want to know some of my earliest memories with you? I do. Okay. We were at the Hidden Hills house and I remember you were it was my birthday. Okay. And we were by the window. I just remember this was like a very early memory. So I just remember we were by a window by the by the backyard and you were ask you were telling me how old I was turning and I think I was like four or something. Shut up. Yes. And you were like, "Hold up your fingers." And you were helping me hold my fingers up. Kylie, there's no way you remember this. Are you going to cry? No. I need to hear the rest. I cried. Wait, are you okay? Are you okay? I see your eyes watering. No, mine are glossy from alcohol. Yours are glossy from tears. There's a difference. Sweet. And then I remember um this is a little scarier. Oh, I just remember you when you got in your car crash. Wait. And you were like laying in your bed with a neck brace. And I remember these are not the same story, by the way. No, this was a different time. Okay. So then So the first memory is That's so sweet of me. You were four and you were holding up my fingers to tell me how old I was. That's so sweet. I'm going to cry just cuz you're crying. I mean, it's the martinis do this to me. I don't know why. Sweet. Okay. And then pause. Pause. Another memory. Memory is I remember you. I remember I think my when my you know my mother and my father Mhm. I know that. And they were like, Chloe, they kind of I remember they like explained to me kind of what happened and then I went in to see you and you were like laying in bed with a neck brace. Am I wrong? No, you're not. Yeah. So, at 16 years old, I got into a really bad car accident where an older gentleman ran a red light. I spun out. I went through my car windshield. I had to be removed from the car with the jaws of life is what it's called. I've had three knee surgeries um from it. I was in a neck brace. I had like third. Yes. My head went through the windshield. Um, and my dad always said, and I remember it was on Cold Water right before Ventura, my dad's office. I never knew where it was. I knew I know exactly where it is. If I drive by it, I'm like, "Oh." I literally start like tensing up cuz I'm like, "Pay attention. Look all around you." I And I remember the stop sign the man rolled to hit me. So, it was a stop sign. Yes. So, Ventura was there and then right below it was like a stop sign and to my right cuz I was driving to my dad's office and my dad's office was there was a Jerry's Deli in a pins bowling alley and my dad had an office right before. Okay. And my I had a Mercedes and my OnStar immediately called my dad's office and Kim answered cuz she was his secretary and it said airbag went off whatever it says and Kim ran down and I kept saying mom and I bl I have no recollection of that at all. Kim would always say that and they cut my jeans and it was the only I was a little chubbier so it was the only pair of jeans that fit me and I kept saying these are the only Kim told me this. These are the only jeans that work. Don't do that to me. Oh wow. And I went straight to surgery that day for my knee. But um and I had some memory loss from that incident. And yeah, and that was horrible. And then I was put in a neck brace. I had a knee brace from my ankle to my upper thigh for like 3 months. And mom made me go on a date with someone in that time. And I was like, the way I walked into the date, her and Gunner put me on a date with someone. It was like the meanest thing. remember you healing at the at home. I remember that was like very significant. Yeah, that was that was and you and Mad with your neck brace. That wasn't great. But I'm alive and praise God. Praise God.

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Does Kylie remember Chloe sneaking out and getting in trouble? Are those any of your memories? Okay, good. I think Chris shielded me from that. Thank God. Yeah. So, what are your other memories? My other memories, they're all positive. You were definitely a strong authority figure in my life. So Khloe's the one that like always had my password. I remember I really wanted a Facebook or MySpace and Twitter. MySpace, Facebook, Twitter were the first three socials. But before I could even have an account, like you had to sit Kendall and I down, talk to us about the dangers of social media. You needed our password. And if you guys changed your passwords, I would always say, "I'm coming to find you and I'm taking them off your like whatever. You're not allowed to have them because if you violated not giving me the password. Yeah. And you guys were so good. Yeah, we were. Yeah. I think that saved me from a lot of things probably. I didn't even have the thought that I can do anything bad on social media cuz I really felt like you were watching that. And then just like if I would get in trouble, you would take the home phone away from my bedroom. You were definitely like I respected you. I don't know who I would have been. I don't know who I would have been today if you weren't there. I remember because you were like the discipline disciplinary in my life. Yeah. And I love that. But we also had such a great relationship. Like I remember when you told me the first person that you had like a real serious relationship with and I remember like you would talk about it so freely. I remember exactly where I was. I was actually on the freeway. You called me and you told me all these intimate things. And I remember like, okay, I had to put the phone down and be like, okay, we just turned a corner. Like thinking to myself, she's not a little girl anymore. But I had to like be cool, okay? And not like, don't blow it, Chloe. Like, let her still tell you things. But I I was driving to a basketball game, I think, and I just remember like telling myself, "Okay, be cool. This information isn't great, but now she's like dating people. We're okay. We're okay." And I just remember and you would always come to me with problems and I took such pride in that. A yeah, I didn't know that. I Well, cuz I literally was like, "Don't freak out. It's okay." Do you remember the first time you've ever like lied to me? I don't really know if you and I have a lying relationship. We don't really have a lying relationship, but anytime I would even attempt to, I feel like you would catch me in a lie like immediately. I feel like we're both way too afraid to lie to you. Yeah. And you're just we don't have a lying family really. Yeah. Like I feel like we're we would just avoid as opposed to lie. Yeah. If that makes sense. I agree. Oh yeah. It up, Kylie. Cheers to that. Cheers. We've already cried. We've laughed.

What was our bonding experience like being pregnant? I don't think we ever expected to be pregnant at the same time. Never. In a million years. No. going from you helping me count my birthday on my fingers to being pregnant together. So, I think that we embraced it. I think we were we were Yeah, we did. I remember like respectfully. I think Kim was first and she was a surrogate so she wasn't We really took her shine away really quick. We did. And I remember how jealous she was that you and I were pregnant together. Oh yeah, cuz then she was like, "Why did I do that?" Like, "Why wasn't I pregnant with you?" Cuz it just would have been like, "What an experience." And then you were pregnant. I had not a clue. Obviously, I was pregnant 3 months after you. And I remember having the barbecue at mom's. You couldn't be there. You were sick from pregnancy and you were in bed. And when we facetimed you, you were like, "Stop. Are you pregnant?" And I remember saying, "Yes." And it was like, never in a million years did I think that. You and I did photo shoots together and so many amazing things, but never in a million years would I think that. I know. And God has such a way. And having our sons together, having our sons together, ever. And Kylie is really one of the main reasons why I felt so safe and comfortable having Tatum because Kylie was like, "Come on. Heir is six months older than Tatum. And when I was like crying and like why is this happening? I can't believe it's happening a second time. And you were like but God makes no mistakes and this is supposed to happen and now our sons get to grow up together and we and Stormy and True and now we have Tatum and Heir and you were so right. Well, who could have planned it better? God, you know, that's it. It was like It's crazy. It is crazy. It really is crazy. And they have each other. Thank God. Cuz who would Aaron be with? I don't know. No. Who would Tatum be with? I don't know. Right. It's crazy. They're so cute. And we have to keep them like nice and sensitive cuz when they're together, they like I just sent Chloe a video like two days ago. They went to Disneyland and they were like in the cart like holding hands like this. They around Disneyland looking around like looking enjoying the experience. I want them to like They will love each other. Yeah, they do. What surprised you most about becoming a mom? I don't think you realize how selfish you are. Like even the little things until you have kids, like leaving the house, just Yeah. leaving the house. Like even just going to a friend's house. Can't do those things anymore. Yeah. So, I think just little things like that. But also, I was really scared the first time I was really young. I also think that maybe people don't fully know about you is that since you were little, you were the biggest nurturer. And Kylie had a dog named Dolce. Mhm. And I think you got this dog at seven, maybe younger. Mhm. But around seven in um Sherwood, so probably younger, like maybe six. Maybe six or seven. And the way Kylie was obsessed with this animal and the way like normally kids are like I want a dog. I want a dog and they're cool for like 2 weeks and then the kid like it's the parents responsibility. This dog was Kylie's baby. I couldn't have sleepovers because I was so obsessed with the dog and it was instead of calling your parents when you're at a sleepover like mom I miss you. It would be like how's Dolce? Is Dolce okay? I have to come home. Yes. So I think innately Kylie has had this maternal instinct her entire life and even if people saw it or they didn't see it like so obviously a dog and a human are two different things but you've always had these progressional steps that were so natural to you and you had this maternal instinct even with your friends and you're silly and fun and all of that but the mom gene I don't think there was a lot that needed to change you cuz you were just like okay whenever it happens happens. I'm ready. Like I I can lock in. Yeah. And you do. You lock in. Thank you, babe. Cheers. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm still going. You better go.

What are the difference of these brushes? You know what I wish you would do? What? I wish cuz like for idiots like me who doesn't know makeup, you see how it says Kylie Cosmetics? I wish this said like blush brush. I don't give a [ __ ] about your number. No, I love that. Thank you for the feedback. Contour. I also don't want to but I don't want to limit it to Okay. But on the website it says more information. I just I'm not This is my foundation brush. I'm not Oh, okay. I was going to use that brush. This Okay. I need some blush. But you can use it for anything. Like this is my skin tint brush, but I use it for contour. I'm just not like a makeup brush. This is the concealer brush. You don't use this. I have it, but I wish it said concealer. So, no. No. No. This is the best brush ever for I just need something. I wish these said like specifics. That's just my wish and you could customize it just for me. How do you balance maintaining your personal identity while being a parent? I think I have a really good balance. You have a great balance. I have a really good balance. I think that I definitely still feel like myself. It was really hard for me having kids so young and your just the emotions and the postpartum and probably being the only one in your circle. The only one. Iris. That's Iris and I became a lot closer. She's a little bit older than me. She We had kids together also. Iris was on the pod. She was on the pod. But I think I did a a pretty good job. I think it just takes time. You did a great job. But I do wonder. It took me like a year probably after both times to really tell myself again. I think that's normal. Yeah. I think it just takes a minute to like get your mojo back. No, it does. Has being a mom changed how you think about your own childhood or how you view mom? Yes. In what ways? I think that I can relate to her more. I understand maybe some of the decisions that she made. For sure. It's changed my whole relationship with my mom. It's interesting cuz in interviews if someone asks me like, "Has being a mom changed the way you view mom?" And I say significantly. And I say I almost am jealous of Kylie for getting to have because I think when you become a mom, you have so much more empathy for your own mother. Like you understand, wait, we're just humans. Yeah. And she's doing the best she knows how to do. just cuz you're a mom or a doctor. We put so much like power with these people and like they're still normal human beings that like yes, we view them as superheroes but doesn't necessarily mean they are and they're just like our mom had us in her young 20 or had the older ones in the young 20s and then if she makes mistakes that's okay. We're allowed to give her grace and forgiveness. And so the fact that you get that understanding so young, your relationship with mom gets to be so close from such an early age where I feel like mom and I buted heads a lot when I was a teenager. When I was a teenager, too, though. Really? Like before I moved out the house, I couldn't wait to get the out of there. I feel like you and mom, you were like always a mommy's girl. Her nickname me and Stace lived Stace lived with me basically. Her nickname was Dark Shadows and every time she would walk in the door, we'd be like, "Dark Shadows is home." Like we like I had such a hard time. We But I She didn't understand. I mean, you know me as a human being. I'm very type Her name was what? Satan. Yeah, exactly. But I'm very type B. Yeah. No, there's no A. There's There's no A. Nope. In here. Mm-m. I'm like messy, but in a very like I know where everything is. It's just how my brain works. Like if if there's a mess and someone moves my mess. You guys, I know where I know during the fires. Okay, Kylie was nice enough. She we were getting evacuated. Hidden Hills, the podcast, we had to even I think prolong our start of our podcast because the fires. Kylie was nice enough. She was like, "Come evacuate me, Scott, all the kids." And we were all at Kylie about your evacuation. No, no, no. We were all at the No, no, I'm not. We're all at her other home in Beverly Hills. And Kylie's like, "Are you good? Are you coming to Palm Springs?" Like, "Yes, we're going tomorrow. Thank you so much for letting us be here." And she's like, "Are you are you um" Kylie said, "Are you going crazy?" And I was like, "Why?" And she's like, "Because all the piles of things everywhere." And I was like, "Well, now that you offered that, yes, it's a little crazy." And she's like, "Chloe, I'm just a go with the flow type of girl. I don't want to stress about things." And I was like, "Okay." She was so like like just laxidasical. I was so envious. It wasn't even like was everywhere. You were just like, "There's a method to this. Be cool." And I was not cool. Okay. I couldn't handle it. And you were so great. And I was like, and the fact they even let us all come over there, that alone would have freaked me out. You know, mom would have been like the the hotel is full. Yeah. Just even if it was empty, just because she's like, you and Scott, right, me, Scott, CeCe, LA, a all of our kids. Um, Rob and Dream. I didn't even know you guys were all I mean, I told everyone you can absolutely go, but I was out of town and I didn't I didn't. Yeah. No, you were fine. But you were so chill and you were like, "Are you going nuts?" I was like, "I was right after Christmas. I was in your bed. But the thing, but my room, by the way, we're making it seem like my room is like a tornado. It's just like, you know, I have books and I have my crystals and I have my stacks. And it was right after Christmas. So the presents and they was like, but to you it's or I was like, "Do you want me to help you put this away?" You're like, "No, I know where everything is." And I'm like, "Okay." Like it was great. And my closet, I don't know what to do about my closet. It's like, "No, but you're I keep trying to I know. So, it'll be a fresh start." Mhm.

What do you think our different parenting styles are? Cuz I think you and I are somewhat similar or No. Am I crazy? No, we are similar. Yeah, I feel like we are. I think you are Well, you're the best mom. Thank you. So are you though. Thank you. I think you're a little more uh regimented. Mhm. Regimented. Yep. Better word. Yeah. Than rigid. you are very like they need to be asleep at this time or like my day like it's the the world has ended you know where I'm a little like it's like fine we're at Disneyland like they can stay 30 more minutes you're very listen I let Tatum go to Disneyland the other day but even now not have I know he did I got the update I'm like wow I wasn't even going to say anything but he's like seven and he was a demon He's seven. He's three. He when he came home, he was like, "Don't you talk to me." I was like, "Oh my gosh, Tatum, is that you?" Well, because you haven't because he's never not had a nap. Tatum needs his nap. Tatum was a son. He hasn't had a nap in like a year. He has lost his nap. Yes, for a few months now. Kylie, that's major. Well, they're going to be in preschool next year. True. No, it's h it's happening soon. Is also six months older than Tatum. That's true. It's a big difference. And Tatum was out of the movie of The Exorcist when I saw him after Disneyland. I was like, I need But they got to go on more rides. And he's not going to remember. Oh, I was so tired. I just coming home from Disney. He's going to remember begging for his nap. I said, he will not have a nap. and he was fine.

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What is the peak and the pit of your week so far? Well, the pit of my week is losing my Norman. That was like very hard for me. Very hard. I didn't think that I was preparing myself because he was about to turn 13 and I knew that I didn't have as much time with him. But but how crazy was the King Kylie anniversary of it all? I know. It's like he made it to King Kylie. But that was definitely the pit of my day. The peak the week. The peak would be besides being here. Thank you. It would be I think my King Kylie collection launching. Been preparing for that for like years. No. In 10 years of any brand, anything, store, anything being in existence, that's iconic. Yeah, it's like a dream. It is. I didn't think this far, but it's pretty amazing. How could you? You were so young starting this from your you were at mom's house like this is what I want to do and you did it and look at you. It's amazing. Thank you. Speaking of King Kylie, we have pop star Kylie. Yes. Okay. How does it feel to be pop star Kylie? I send you so many Tik Tok. Okay. So, all I do is send I've sent you like 20 Tik Toks that I'm ignored on that Kylie. It's you send me Tik Toks like on Tik Tok. No, I don't know how to do that. Just to your text. I don't look at those obviously, but you look at your text messages. It's fine. I'm not offended. Okay, whatever. And they're all about the fourth strike song and people dancing to them. They have choreography. I do. I did ignore that last one. But only because I've seen it already and I was like, "Oh, it feels good." I just I don't care if you acknowledge me. I'm like, "You should like hype them up." I think it's so cute. How does it feel? It feels really good cuz I had zero expectation. I didn't expect really like I mean, I loved it. I was proud of it. that I thought it was amazing, but I I didn't really do it for to get a number one song or like I wasn't Yeah, I tried and I put, you know, all the love and the best I could do, but I wasn't expecting anything. So, anything extra is feels really good. It's just like creative freedom and to have fun. Well, you know, it was on my vision board. What? To record a song. I love that. Yeah. And when do you make vision boards? December. I do them with Iris every year like around New Year's. We just do it when our schedules align. Iris, I feel like anything she puts on those boards, she's such a good manifesttor. She's such a good manifesttor. It's crazy. Anything she puts on board, we did a vision board and honestly, I haven't done one in a few years since then, but everything on my vision board has like come true. Okay, then we got to do another one. That's what I'm saying. I'm setting up now. I'm like going to dream even bigger. I have some I have some thoughts for my vision board. Okay. I want you to put them on the vision board. I'm not going to tell you to talk about them, but I I need to be a part of this. Yeah, I need to. We should do with the three of us. We should. But yeah, I did record a record a song like get out of your comfort zone. Did you put acting on there? Cuz I mean, you're acting girl. I did. I put You did? Well, I didn't put acting, but I put more general like do things that you're afraid of. Do things outside of your comfort zone. What are the two things that you're most afraid of? Um, career-wise, acting and singing. Okay. And you did both this year? Wow. Oh my god. For the for the Charlie movie coming out, I was Chloe. What? I I I was so scared for for days. like what like to actually do it. I had a very small part. I mean I had a lot of lines but I was I was just so afraid. I think I'm so used to I think I used to do a lot more things out of my comfort zone and now I'm used to like being very sheltered staying in my in like a you know safe box box for me. I relate to that a lot. Yeah. just like my safe space to not be it's probably the reason why I don't share as much just to not be judged or criticized or years of that takes a toll on you and I think at a certain point you're like okay I'm going to do A B and C to just protect myself. I'm like so drunk. No, everything I'm saying I like mean, but I'm like, "Wow, I'm gonna look back on this and be like, you're not okay." But um and then um so I just I don't even remember what I was talking about. Anyway, I was very scared to do this and very proud of myself when I did it. I'm so proud. I remember when you did it. Yeah. I'm so proud of you. Who do you turn to for acting? I don't know if it's advice or just support or like to give you that confidence that you need. I think well before I officially it was right around when Jesus passed so I felt like I committed to it and then I was like wow I'm in a really bad place and I just don't know in a month from now if I'll be okay to do this. I think it was like a month away. And but I still, you know, I was like I I know the director obviously, Aiden. So I was like in contact with him and I'm like, I really want to do it. I hope that I'm in a better place. Like just give me a chance. Like I'll get it together. And then closer to I actually called Kim and I was just like, I know you're like in your acting bag right now and I just need a little like encouragement and some advice. And I read the lines to her like how I would say it and she was like you got you like you're saying it perfect. You got this. This is so easy. What's your role or do you not want to give it away? Myself. Cute. I can't tell you anything other than that. But basically it's major obviously. Obviously. Do you want to continue acting? I get in your acting bag. I would do it if it was like the right thing. Was the right thing. The right role. Okay. I would I don't think I'm so I would love to do something that was like I think I'm I think I'm hilarious. You are. So I would want to do something that was like funny or I don't know. I think it would have to just be the right thing. What is your goto TV show? Um I'm watching Task right now. What the is that? Oh my god, you're such a loser. I'm such a loser with TV. So tell me, what are you watching? Honestly, it's fine. Wait, let me just because I'm watching Love is Blind and when I get home later, I get to watch the wedding episodes. Have you watched I haven't gotten into the recent season. What? Okay, so maybe I'll get into that after. But I'm watching Task right now and I'm really into What's Task about? Task is about I'm like bleeding. It's cool. You're bleeding? Look at my big toe. Whatever. So, I have to pee so badly and I'm just like holding on. Just take a pee break. I need a second. I need to pee break.

We are back. What are some of your silly and superstitious rituals you do in cuz you are superstitious. Sorry, I'm applying my lip liner. That's okay. Okay. Wouldn't you consider yourself superstitious? I think so. I just believe in like whatever you believe in. Yeah. So, what are three things you believe in? Like I don't know. What are you trying to say? I'm trying to say that. Well, you love crystals. I love I loved crystals. I still love crystals. Got it. Okay. But I wouldn't say like I I don't really like lead them out and the moonlight and the sun and charge them and the whole thing. But yes, I used to be obsessed. Okay. So, no superstitions. I don't think so. I think I just don't really speak anything into existence that I I I will keep things inside my deepest fears in my head cuz I won't think of them. I mean, I I won't say them out loud to other people. I will say that's the smartest thing you could do. I don't care what you believe in. The tongue is so powerful. I agree. And whether we sing it in a song or whatever, that comes true. M your body doesn't know if you're singing a song. Yeah, it comes true. I do believe in that. Period. When do you mute our family group chat? Like at what point? You're not muted now cuz I got a new phone. You were always muted. Oh, this just because sometimes when you guys are just sometimes we will be having separate conversations on the chat and it's like I don't really need to hear this right now. This has nothing to do with me. But so far I mean so far so far no muting yeah has happened. Your boundaries I don't know 10 years ago to now have they changed my boundaries personally? Yeah. For sure. Right. And do you think like I remember how much we all used to get on court for like the trigger word of boundaries. Yes. But now, like, especially that I'm older and like I have kids, I'm like I'm eating my words, like I love a boundary. Yeah. Do you love a boundary? I do love a boundary. Of course. What's your favorite boundary that

I have for myself personally? Like my kids' personal life, I guess. I will say you in court are the best at having whatever boundaries are. They're very different, you and court, but what your boundaries are, just abide by them. Yeah. I love that you guys aren't frustrated. I'm like, "Come on." Or whatever, but I respect how you guys like, "No, I'm not bending for anyone." And you don't feel guilty about it. I wish I didn't feel guilty about everything. I feel guilty about everything.

When you're spiraling, who do you text first? When I'm spiraling, well, I'll call you a lot when I'm spiraling. I love that. I do. I really love that. The last call was fun. What was that? The hair. Oh, yes. My daughter True had a really high temperature. I posted about it last Christmas and it like was so so so sad. True had 107 fever. Crazy. So crazy. I never knew that if you had such a high fever for that long. Months later, 3 months later, it will cause significant hair loss. True lost about between 50 to 60% of her hair in volume. She still has hair. We took her to the doctors. It was the most terrifying thing. Kylie and I really were able to talk about Stormy had an interesting hair situation and hair trauma is a big thing. Mhm. I think when it happens to you as an adult, you're like, "Okay, I can This sucks. I can process this. Hair will grow back. go get some whatever extensions when it happens to your kid. Like it sucks. And you have to stay strong so they don't realize there's a problem. Of course. Of course. And that's the hardest part. Yeah. I think that's the hardest part. I really do.

How are you letting loose and finding your happiness these days? Like what makes you happy? I have never been happier. I love that. Thank you. And what makes you so happy? Just all the stars are aligning. All the stars are aligning and yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot that I think it's just also growing up. I think and finding yourself and um certain things, surrounding yourself with the right people, everything.

How do you feel about Kendall turning 30? Kendall turning 30 really scares me. Why? I don't like it at all. But why don't you like it? Cuz you know you're next. Yeah. Yeah. I figured. Every time she gets to an age, I'm like, damn, I'm going to be there soon. Not that I don't feel, By the way, I feel like 45. What? Yes. What do you mean? I mean, I have two kids. I like have a million jobs. I have a business that just turned 10 years old. Like, of course, I feel 45. What do you mean? That is so weird to me. Really? Yeah. Don't you feel like I am that [ __ ] I have two kids. I have a business. What does 45 mean? I can't be still feel like that [ __ ] No, I'm not. I'm that [ __ ] and I'm 41. Exactly. But I'm just saying when you're not 45 and you have all those things, like most people don't come into their own until they're 40s, sometimes 50s. No shame in that. You are that [ __ ] at Okay. What was that? Under 20. Yeah, it's I feel very young, but I feel very mature at the same time. I can get that. So, I also think maybe because of that, do you get enough grace when you do have like like a wild night out? I guess you guys don't I think you you and Kendall have always been really I got it out during co I will say I got it out. What I was going to say is I think when you guys turned of age, society sort of changed a little bit where like the club life, the going out life wasn't what it was when I was 21. So, when you guys went out, maybe it was more private, but let's just say a a bad photo of you guys like stumbling out of a location, which is normal. We've all been there, came out, like especially if you're a mom and like you're like having a fun night out. Other moms do it. Do you feel like you get as much grace like a pass? Like why? You're a business owner. You're responsible. I think I do. Good. I hope you do. Yeah. It's I mean it's rare to find us like I can't remember the last. But I do think I get enough grace. Yeah, I don't really pop out like that. Let's be real. No, I know. But why don't any of us pop out like that? Because times are changing or because the eyes that are on us. I think I would just rather rather not cuz I do feel like we get dirty at one of our houses to pop out. Exactly. We're not like dying to pop out and I'm missing out on so much. I just I would rather just not do that. Yeah. You want to go to one Oak tonight or something? I do think times are just changing. One Oak's not even open anymore. You know that. I just learned that like two seconds ago. I'm like, what? Where have I been? Sometimes I drive in the streets and I'm like, where did this restaurant come from? And this that's how much I just don't know what's going on out there. I think you just broke my heart a little bit. One Oak is gone. It's gone. It's something else. I That's sad. I know.

What is your idea of a perfect Sunday? Perfect Sunday is in the backyard in the sun all day with my kids taking a walk, doing a puzzle, maybe a glass of wine at night. No gluten all day. No gluten. Oh my. You are getting nasty right now. No gluten, but maybe like a gluten-free cookie at night. You better calm down. You need to really take a chill. Like, oh my god. like glasses of wine. White or red, however I'm feeling. Are you a red or a white? Lately, I'm a white. I know what it kind of, you know, like what white. The white kind of just gets me going. But Santa Margarita Santa Margarita. Okay, talk to me dirty. Say it to me. Say it. Santa Margarita. Papy. Okay.

In an alternate universe, what would you be doing if you weren't you? I would be a I would be something super major. Okay. I would be like a maybe the best makeup artist in the world. Youing would I would you would I would be the best makeup artist. I just fun fact I don't I'm sure you remember this. So Kylie it's just not meant to be that Kylie ever does my makeup. Okay. We have tried, I know, at least two different occasions over the past 10 years. One of them, Kylie and I were going to film. We had apps together. You came to my house in the Oaks. We were about to film and mom got in a car accident. Oh my god. Yes. There was two other times that you were supposed to do my makeup on camera. Every time something crazy happened where you weren't able to do my makeup. Well, I would love to do your right next door to you. I don't know what my point is. I think I forgot because I'm drunk. But I'll do your makeup at any time. Literally, call me. Okay. I don't know why I brought that up. But anyways, crazy truth or dare. Okay. Well, you pick. Oh, haven't played this in a while. Uh, truth. First DM you ever sent to someone you didn't know? Oh, I know this one. You do? What is it? I send a DM. I'm not going to say who. Stop. I'm dying already. To some to a guy for my fors. Okay. So, it was like not for me at all. I've never DM'd a guy. What would you say? But, you know, I was pressured. Stace was like, I like this guy. I'm obsessed. I don't know how to get to him. Text him my page. I mean, DM him my page. And I was like, whatever. That's my girl. What am I supposed to do? And did you do it? And did you No response. I want to call St right now from your phone and be like, "Kylie's in jail." Oh my god. Do it. Wait, what do we say? Okay, you're going to say, "No, I need a prank." Okay. Okay, I agree. What is the prank? Wait, you want to know be so funny? Obviously. Okay. I've been wanting to do this for a while. Stop. Tell me now. There's like a there's a Tik Tok trend where you where like people will call their friend and be like, "Did you mean to post that on Instagram?" Okay. I think it's funny, but I like imagine we say some Kim or like all you say is Kim would cry. Did you mean to post that on Instagram? Try Kim. It's just you, not me. Just you. But I don't want her to even see me cuz then she'll see the face. No. So just call her. I'm going to FaceTime. No, she can't see anything. She can't see that I'm like lit and perfect. So Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram? What? What you just posted? What did I post? Well, look on Instagram. I'm just like, I should probably delete that. What? What is it? I don't see anything. That pic of you. What pic? What? Kylie, I don't see anything. We're just kidding. You're on the podcast. I'm like, what? I was literally just going through my phone. I'm like, "What?" Okay, let's call mom. Oh my god. Mom doesn't post. I know, but Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram? What? What? You just posted on Instagram? I didn't do anything. What? That picture of you? No. It's like a It's like a selfie of you in the mirror and you're like not clothed. What? Show me. Tell me right now and get it down. You've got to be kidding. What? What am I wearing, Kylie? Just be honest with me. Uh, well, I see your [ __ ] boob. I'm calling Jen. Got to go. Bye. I feel so bad. Jen is going to get yelled at. Jen, tell her back. Jen's going to get yelled at. Oh, no. I feel bad. She's not responding. Look, she's not answering. Okay, let's call Kendall. I love this. Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram? Don't do this to me. The photo is weird. Kylie, don't do this to me. Kylie, do you think I'm Why are you a legend? Why are you a legend? The smartest person you've ever met. Mom, it was a joke. I texted you. It was a prank. We text you. What? It was a prank. You guys just lost my mind. I'm sorry, Kylie. Oh my god. I just was shaking. I was shaking. I'm thinking, how can I? I'm getting old. How could I be so stupid? I'm sorry. I'm turning into MJ. Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram? What? What you just posted? You're such a liar. Is this a prank? How do you know? Your heart dropped a little bit. Landon was like, "You got scared for a second." I definitely did. How did you know? You and Kendall are like cool as a cucumber. Mom and Kim are like Yeah. And then didn't call us back for 5 minutes and we were trying to call her to tell her it was a joke and then she called us back five minutes later and was like, "I can't find it. I can't find." I'm like, "We're kidding." Wait, who? Mom? Yes. Oh my goodness. No, you guys you guys had me for a second. For a millisecond. That Yeah, that's a good one. Did you know Court and I had a great chat and her and I are amazing. Oh, good. I know. I love to hear that. I love you. Love you. We're going to get back to our podcast. 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Okay, we have one last card and that's it. Never have I ever Okay, let's get crazy. Please. Never have I ever ignored a sister's call on purpose. Do I have to sip? Just a little. So, I have. Well, you're going to have to sip probably the whole thing. Okay. Googled yourself on purpose. Well, yeah. I did that today. Blame something I did on another sibling. Yes. Okay. Not drinking anymore. Yeah, you're going to be drunk. I've done that. faked crying to get something I wanted. I mean, no. Maybe when I was like three. Okay. Well, you still do it. Okay. Have you ever been pulled over and got yourself out of a ticket with an excuse? And if so, what was the excuse? No, I haven't been pulled over in a really long time. Me neither. And when I did get pulled over, it was for the tents on my car. Same. Anyway, what do you want to ask me? Uh, we're done here. What do I want to ask you? Anything you want to know about me? Why did you name it Chloe and Wonderland? Because my name is Chloe. That's number one. And Wonderland is like Alice in Wonderland. You're falling down the rabbit hole. I like the strangest of topics from aliens to self-help people. Like from Dr. Aiman to aliens. So there's not it's not one category. Mhm. Every episode will be a totally different thing and I want people to go down the rabbit hole with me. I like that. And you're just in a wonderland. I want us to always wonder. Are you a flatearther or a roundar earther? I'm a round earther, I think. But honestly, I haven't had much thought or much research about it. I'm a round earther. And then Rob sends me all these things about flatearthers and I'm like, do I think anything's possible? Yes. Same. I do think anything's possible. I believe in mermaids. I'd rather not worry about it. Well, it's not a worry of mine, too. I agree. I'd rather like just live in Wonderland. Exactly. I would. Do I believe anything's possible? 100%. Do I care enough? No. I'm surviving. We've all survived here for thousands of years. Yeah. Whatever the earth is, whatever it's shaped like, we're good. What are we going to do? Ex Kylie. Yeah. You're my [ __ ] forever and always. What are we going to do? What is the next step for Kylie? Like, not to scare you, okay? But if Kendall is 30, that means Kylie will be 30 next. Okay. Just just putting it out there. Yeah. Just like a fact is a fact. Okay. What do the 30s look like for Kylie Kristen Jenner? The 30s look like my children will be 10. And that's crazy. Yeah. I'll have a 10-year-old, but I think my 30 is in my goal for the next year. I have I mean I Kylie Cosmetics is my baby. So, let's like not age ourselves. Yeah, Kylie Cosmetics is my baby. I have some more goals, some more things that I want to do for her. I think that's my main focus. I would do another acting job if it was the right fit. Love. And I do want to get back into the studio. Yeah. I'm not saying I would release any new music, but I want to try cuz why not try? Why not enjoy life? Why not enjoy try and just enjoy life? I think that's what try. But no, that's just my I think no if no were given before no are given now. Not a not a I love it insight. Not a no. I don't really care what people have to say. I don't Yeah. Yeah. I think I've had goals and dreams in my life and I just Why would I let anyone else's opinion stop me from living out um your dreams? Any dreams that I have. Oh, you know what? Cheers to us. Cheers and welcome and thank you for being on Chloe and Wonderland. I love you. I'm so scared to see this episode.