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[Music] [Music] I cannot say that I saw this coming. Um, look like Aba made a follow-up video to our debate the other day when we was debating Kirk issues and he's titled this video this debate red pilled me but it's uh the thumbnail he got a picture of me and him on it. You know what I mean? And you know uh Aba ain't no stranger to doing the extra. So I'm I'm wondering what the angle is, bro. cuz you I mean I ain't take anything negative from that experience. I thought it was a pretty cordial or productive conversation, you know what I mean? Um so yeah, this video was 31 minutes long, man. But uh let's get it.
>> Do you agree that there's a lot of parents who neglect those children?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So do you think that those kids should suffer because they have bad parents?
>> No.
>> Okay. They should, but but bad [ __ ] happens.
>> On to the next point.
>> And there there's so many people that die from car accidents, bro. [ __ ] It's bad up [ __ ] happens. Like, we can't save everybody. We can't save everybody, bro. Like, it is.
>> But just because we can't save everybody doesn't mean we don't try.
>> Advocating for kids to take advantage of the surplus of food available to them in different ways that it is. It's not on somebody to do it, bro. Like, you know, you shitty parents. I get it, dog. This life. Life ising hard, dog. And some children are born in up circumstances, bro. It is what it is.
>> Yeah, but I had a debate with uh Stevie Knight from Night Talk. Uh he reached out to me to have a discussion after he covered our Kirk video a while back. There's like two parts that really like threw me off a lot.
>> There should be uh free school lunch for all children.
>> No. Why?
>> Of course not. Cuz parents should feed their kids, not the government.
>> What if they can't?
>> Go get a job.
>> A child.
>> You want the parents should go get the job. You are a dumb, dude. Don't give me this stuff of of first of all this is really
>> I want children to eat. Of course I do. Show me a single child in America going hungry. Doesn't exist. It does not exist. We have a child obesity problem.
>> I'm like if you just Google it what he said is a blatant lie. But the smuggness with which he said that
>> says in the US around 13 to 14 million children experienced food insecurity in recent years with one in five children lacking consistent access to enough food. This condition known as food insecurity means families don't have reliable access to enough food. The number has seen a significant increase with 2022 data showing a rise in child food insecurity, reversing previous declines. But where in that does it say kids are starving? We can't be switching words out now, man. Food insecurity is entirely different than starving. That was the question posed in that debate with Kirk. And even with addressing this topic, I mean, I'm I haven't seen where he's going with it, bro. But, uh, this video was one of the videos I cherrypicked to manufacture a narrative about Kirk trying to highlight him as disgusting. So, like, we're moving the goalpost and discussing a different topic. Hopefully, he doesn't take, you know, I'mma wait. I'mma wait before I get ahead of what's going on here, man, because he may address it. But um yeah, it says food insecurity, bro. It doesn't say people starving. Oh, let me let me let me let me ask chat GPT and see how many people are actually starving in America because I I don't even need to look up the stat. I know I'm 99.9% sure that we do not have a starvation problem in America. Um, is there a child? You know what? I ain't gonna leave opening like that. Um, how many children are starving? I'm I'm trying to be objective about this. I don't want to be have a leading question into, you know, my bias. Um, like how many children are suffering from starving in America? So short answer about 13 to 14 million children in US live in food insecure households in 2023. What the [ __ ] is food insecure mean? A bit more detail on what those words mean. Most official counts use the term food insecure, not the clinical word starving. Food insecurity means a household sometimes lacked enough money or resources or other resources for adequate food. It ranges from worrying about running out of food to skipping meals. According to USDA, ERS, and major anti-hunger groups, nearly 14 million children live in a food insecure household in 2023. That represented about one child in five experiencing some level of food insecurity during the year. Local conditions vary a lot. Some countries and communities have much higher child food insecurity rates. Um, important distinction. Starving describes severe malnutrition and is relatively rare in the US. The larger measurable problem is food insecurity. People missing meals, cutting portion sizes are not having reliable access to nutritious food. Surveys show many parents skip or reduce their own meals to feed children. So child hunger is a serious public health and developmental issue, even if full clinical starvation is uncommon. I mean, so we're talking about two different things, but you know, I, you know, for the sake of the argument, I guess I'll give him this food insecure point he's trying to make, man. But that wasn't the question that was posed to to Kirk. Like, we we don't have a starvation problem. You know what I mean? Skipping meals, not getting, you know, the nutritious meals um, you know, bodies require, you know, that's another conversation. But at the same time, we talking about schools providing the foods. And I don't know how familiar y'all are with the actual food that these public schools give children in the at the cafeteria, bro. It ain't the highest of quality, right? That's a whole different conversation, bro. But um anyway, I want to continue before I start nitpicking this [ __ ] like crazy. Um, what he said is a blatant lie, but the smuggness with which he said that stuff, he's like, "Well, the parents should pay it. We all know there's bad parents out there. We all know there's like parents who neglected kids, parents who got on drugs, whatever it could be." And Stevie was like aggressively defending the stand. Go get food stamps. You can get food at churches. There's no reason to starve. Do you remember that?
>> Yeah. There's no reason to starve in America. But it's like 1% of households, what what I say starve. This is food insecurity. Starving and food insecurity entirely. Two different things. You saw the stat. It says starvation is extremely uncommon, extremely rare in America. But they came up with a new definition or a new problem labeled food insecurity, which means you may not have ade adequate food available. You may skip meals. You're still eating. You're not starving. That's a different problem, man. So, we're moving the goalpost. removing the gopers. I wish we could have gotten this conversation during the debate and not trying to do this, you know, after the fact [ __ ] man. But yeah, this is cap. All right, this is cap.
>> Like a uh I guess uh technically a hunger issue, bro. But people are not starving to death in America, bro. [ __ ] are fat as hell.
>> But I remember just throwing me off cuz I'm like, what possesses an adult to look like a at a sevenyear-old? And like I said, there's 14 million kids suffer from food scarcity. That means they don't know where they going to get their next meal. I went to school with [ __ ] like that. Yeah. Y'all didn't go to school with nobody who just sometimes they would show up and they didn't have a lunch and the teacher would sometimes have to fill in if they would. But I remember some say this again, bro. You clearly saw me state that there is no starvation problem in America. Children are not emaciated. When I'm talking about this, I'm thinking of the likes of like famine. You know what I mean? skinny extremities, popped out bellies, like really starving. People in America do not know what starving feels like. We don't suffer from that. Anyway,
>> the kids didn't get [ __ ] They used to have to eat out of other kids' boxes. And you know, people like, "Oh, what's wrong with skipping a meal?" When you're in development, it's bad. It stunts your growth. Their academic scores are lower on average as well. It is hard to believe, but a government report out tonight says more than 17 million American children don't know where their next meal is coming from. Many count on school food programs. But what happens now that school is out?
>> And then afterwards, Steve's like, "Well,
>> if homeless are hungry, they can go get some [ __ ] food, dog. Food stamps, bro. The homeless don't go hungry, bro. They can go get a meal. They want to get a meal."
>> You're comparing children to homeless. Have you not been a child before? Or do you think kids know where to Yeah, but the teacher
>> call parties that do this for a living to find children the resources that they need. Like teachers do this all the time. They'll see a child that may be neglected and they'll make the calls or alert people to, you know, intervene.
>> You want to call child services. You want to put them in foster care.
>> It may be better than having them the shooty ass parents.
>> Have you looked at the foster care city? Have you Googled foster care?
>> But you're you're you're describing these parents as ain't [ __ ] bro. Like it is bad [ __ ] happen. You want the teacher to wait till the kids like emaciated and clearly skinned. You know what I mean?
>> That's what I'm saying. I was like, okay, this
>> How am I saying I'm we're waiting for the kids to be emaciated?
>> Teachers are aware of good teachers are aware of their students conditions, man. And if they notice something off, you know, I mean, maybe they may notice a child looking extra hungry. It's the same thing as like if they notice uh um you know a child that may be getting abused at the home, they're going to make calls necessary to rectify the situation. They see a child that may look like they're hungry, you know what I mean? They're eating super aggressive or at the cafeteria or maybe they're, you know, going through other people's food or whatnot, like, you know, teachers are are able to observe, you know what I mean? But like we're being nitpicky at the end of the day because you know the beginning of this conversation we were comparing and I'm sure he's going to leave that part out. We were comparing maybe I brought it up. Oh, he brought it up. He said, "How was this? How is Kirk, the same person that is, you know, pro-life and, you know, anti-abortion, so inconsiderate of the children that are, you know, suffering from it was food insecurity or food uncertainty, whatever label they created for that, right? And, you know, I posed the the question. I said, "Well, what do you think's worse, abortion?" the amount of abortions in America or the kids starving. I'll provide that clip so y'all can see when I pose that question. I haven't even looked up the the stats. Just know literally to the sense of starvation. Man, you saw chat GBT said starving is almost non-existent in America.
>> Do you guys even Google this stuff? Do you guys even look into it? But you speak confidently against this stuff that's hurting hundreds and thousands of kids. And I'm like, I don't get it. Who? Okay, I ask you a question. Um, which one is higher? The amount of abortions in America or the amount of starving children in America?
>> The amount of starving kids in America?
>> Oh, that's cap. That's cap.
>> That's cap. Did you Google it?
>> Did you Google it?
>> I don't need to Google it. But
>> you don't need facts. But you know what? Facts don't care about how you feel about it. I need you to Google it.
>> Okay, I'll Google it. Somebody Somebody Google it in the chat, bro. But if you're pushing the goalpost and saying children that are not getting their meals or don't know where their next meal is coming from, that's another conversation to be had. I clearly kept repeating starving. Starving. Starving. Starving. Right. Americans don't know what starving is. We don't know what starving is, man. But, you know, I see what he's doing here. He's playing semantics and moving the goalpost with this conversation. Bro,
>> be right just to be right. What are we doing? Is that what we You think the kid is going to go out, oh yeah, you know what? My lunch break. Let me go to this food bank real quick. I'll hop in my car and go on. Why am I even trying to say this to someone? It's like, you don't know teachers. You don't know what teachers do. You haven't never been to school. It's okay to be wrong and say like, you know what? Hey, you're right. And and then afterwards, it kept getting colder and colder. like you know all these EBT stamps you get food stamp I'm like you want a 10-year-old to get food stamps like y'all know and then it kept going at one point just said well listen man it is what it is you know what I'm saying like and the world is not perfect dog it's not utopia bro so it's like I get and then I'm a capitalist dog I don't I'm not in support of the government coming out taking care of everything I know it's a problem I never said what I want to do about it I could care less like it is what it is dog this life is [ __ ] hard dog and some children are born in [ __ ] up circumstances bro it is what it is But to kids not having access to food, [ __ ] happens. And and it I I remember why thinking like now with hindsight, I remember why this moment really stuck out to me. It's like if you talk like that about kids not having access to food, is it any wonder why people think you guys are monsters? I don't agree with it. I think it's an abhorrent view to hold. But this is the extremism that leads to somebody like Charlie Kirk getting shot.
>> Bro, here we go, bro. He taking me out of context again. See, Aba ain't [ __ ] He ain't [ __ ] bro. I thought he was [ __ ] but he ain't [ __ ] You know what I mean? Because this whole this whole conversation was about Kirk and how he demonizes Kirk, right? When he posed the question to me, I said I wouldn't be against the government if some if that passed, right? It is what it is. You know what I mean? I wouldn't be against it, but I'm not going to demonize Kirk for having this stance. And I understand Kirk's perspective, bro. But he just running with the I guess the negative [ __ ] that I don't know. This must have got to him. You know what I mean? Cuz it ain't like I'm some big ass YouTuber or some big ass personality on YouTube that's going to get him views. Like this really must have struck him the wrong way. So he he must have only heard what he wanted to hear. You know what I mean? Because I gotta pull that snippet up too. I said, I clearly I wouldn't be against the government if they budgeted that for it, right? But I'm not going to demonize Kirk for his stance because I understand it.
>> We we pay so much in tax dollars and most of it goes to the military to do funding wars overseas. I don't think it's so crazy to say, "Hey man, take 1% of that budget and make sure these kids don't go hungry. Take another 1% of that budget and take care of veterans." But, you know, maybe aba I wouldn't disagree with you with that, but I don't disagree with Kirk either. I mean, I don't think he should be painted as a demon for having that that viewpoint.
>> Um, I mean, I think it's pretty demonic to not want kids to have meals. Personally,
>> he's not he never said he didn't want kids that have meals. Is that the only conversation you said discussing that topic
>> when he was suggested a food program to make sure that kids who can't get access to good food or decent food or have manual nutrition get food? He said, "No, that's [ __ ] stupid."
>> Did you Did you answer my question though? Was that the only video you did? You let that video play and see what else he said in regards to that discussion?
>> Yeah, I played it. And what what did he say?
>> He said that he thinks that the parents would take care of
>> No, he said pull it up right now.
>> We have churches. We have food shelters. We have we have billions and it does not exist. We have a child obesity problem, not a child starvation problem in this country. That 50% of our kids are obese or overweight. There's not a single kid in America that is not a starvation in the last 10 years. Show me that kid. Show that not this is a propaganda thing from the Democrat party. Our kids are so overweight they have type two diabetes by the age of eight. So,
>> so the number one problem for kids right now is that they're not moving enough and they're eating too much. Not that there's child starvation. Instead, let's get back to a time where we say, "Hey, parents, feed your kids. Churches feed your kids. Communities feed your kids." Not big daddy government coming in and doing what the families should do. With that, I say thank you guys so much and have a great day.
>> And I'm going to reiterate there's government programs that literally focus on this feeding the hungry, right? And I don't know what is available for children or whatnot, man. But even even at this point, right, we're semantics like moving the goalpost. We're talking about I was talking about children starving. All right, that's what I said. Children starving. But anyway, let's continue.
>> This kind of like bad faith almost like mean-spirited. It's like I don't understand what's Christian about that either. Not not your pushing, but Charlie is like we have kids that are suffering. You guys are like super anti-abortion, pro-life. You guys want to preserve. Then these kids come out and there's like this smug attitude of like
>> I'm pro-life. I'm pro-life. But if you're hungry, man, [ __ ] happens.
>> And if we're being honest, the comparison between abortions and food insecurity, it's a stupid argument, dog, because regardless of these children's circumstances, they still have the ability to live. So what are we talking about? What are we talking about? Why are we comparing killed babies to babies that are alive? Nobody in America is dying from starvation. We ain't about to do this, bro. We could have talked about all this [ __ ] in the [ __ ] conversation, bro. So, I don't know if he slept on it. Something bothered his ass, bro. But this [ __ ] is
>> Do you this this [ __ ] is whack, bro? Because like you said, he's taking me out of context, which he did with Kurt. I'm not even trying to have bad blood with this. It's not even that [ __ ] serious, bro. But like this [ __ ] don't this [ __ ] don't come across as genuine. So what I'm going to do is pull up our conversation, bro. And I'll just let it speak for itself.
>> You said it was different in your video because Charlie Kirk died on camera. Nobody was supposed to see that. Remember that saying that?
>> Yeah.
>> Right. To me, I understand that the fact that it he died on camera makes it much more graphic, much more in your face. But at the end of the day, murder is murder. Dying is dying. But it's the effect that has on society is not it's not the same in a vacuum. It's the same. But if if people were be able to see that video until the end of time now,
>> right? They're able to see that man go out the way that he did and knowing up until this I can't I can't compare someone else that had the amount of influence Kirk had. You know what I mean? If he hadn't been murdered in front of everyone at once, your analogy, your comparison would be fair, man. But you can't you can't you can't you can't minimize that. If Kirk's not killed on camera, is this situation more or less tragic?
>> It's less tragic.
>> So dying on camera makes a murder worse.
>> No, not the murder worse, but the effect that has on the people is worse because everybody can see it.
>> Sure.
>> It's different than watching a news report and you hear about somebody that was grotesque as as opposed to actually seeing it because this is this people are going through trauma with this right now. You mean they're going to have this burnt little kids saw this. It's nowhere. It's nowhere near the same as anybody else.
>> That's the effect that it has on you as an individual. But the the tragedy is the same. The tragedy
>> I disagree with you on that. I disagree.
>> Okay. We're definitely going to disagree. If my father dies on camera or doesn't die on camera, at the end he died. Somebody took my person away from.
>> So you don't think the fact that everybody can see your father die and have that accessible 24/7 on social media is not going to make the situation any different than having him die?
>> No. No. It makes it different. It makes it different. But from a moral standpoint, it's the exact same. There's no difference. Morality.
>> Well, morality is a different conversation. I'm talking about tragedy. I'm talking about the effects it's having on society.
>> Yeah. But if I'm talking about other murders, I'm talking about if I'm talking about other murders. I'm talking about the moral aspect of I I don't care whether it happens in front of 100 people, 10 people, a school, it doesn't really matter to me. Murder is murder. All political violence to me that happens for political reasons are equally bad whether they happen. That's how I feel about it. You might disagree with that
>> and I'd imagine a lot are going to disagree with that as with that perspective as well. Man,
>> the fact that you can see it,
>> you can hear about somebody that died by the guillotine, but then actually seeing it is going to be totally different. And with kids, college campus, friend of his babies, friend of his wife, the whole world see that, bro, is entirely different.
>> It's different in the impact that it has on the viewer.
>> Yeah, but that's my whole point. That's that's my whole point and that's why it's more tragic. But that doesn't mean that we can't contextualize it with those other murders. You say it's not comparable, but I disagree. They died for the same reason.
>> If you had related that way, trying to bring up the similarities and how you conveyed it just now, it would make more sense. But that's not at all how you conveyed it in the video. It it came from, you know, a leftist bias type of perspective from my from my end that you were trying to minimize it by bringing up other similarities. You didn't bring anything up about it being moral or saying morally. He was just saying to sum it, to summarize it, you know, Kirk died, everybody else died, and this happens with political violence. That's pretty much what you said.
>> Because what I'm getting at is not how he died. What I'm or like in front of who that he died. What I'm focused on is why was he killed? I don't personally care that he was killed on a live stream or in a pre-recorded video.
>> Do you think you're Do you think you're the anomaly with that perspective?
>> No.
>> You think that most people don't care that he that he died online? I think that's the reason why it went viral for sure, but that's not why they care. You don't care about this topic because
>> No, I'm No, what I'm saying what what I'm asking you is you said you don't care that he died on live stream. And I'm asking you, do you think most people don't care that he died on live stream?
>> No. No. Most people are focused on the fact that he was killed for political reasons. That's what people care about. No one's no one's outraged by this whole thing because it happened on camera.
>> I'm not saying they're outraged. I'm just saying that makes that adds more nuance. It makes it worse because of that. It's a it's a
>> but that's that's in the background. That's not that important. What's really important is that he was killed for political reasons. That's the focus. That's the that's not just a little bit. That's 99% of the focus. None of the coverage that we've been seeing lately is because like can you believe that people died on camera? Nobody's talking.
>> That's not my argument. Come on, bro. That's not my argument, dog. I'm not saying that it's only important because it happened on camera. I'm saying it's worse than everything else that that's happened thus far because it happened the way that it did.
>> Okay. Yeah. I I think we all agree to disagree. I don't think someone dying on camera makes it worse. I think a tragedy death is death. Murder is murder. If you are murdered by somebody on camera in front of a body, sudden you so so I played the whole thing. Didn't take nothing out of context, bro. So you tell me what's worse. You know what just described or the fact that someone I don't even know what word to describe that as um demented enough. Is that the correct word? Or desensitized enough or I don't know what it is, bro. But for someone to say that that this assassination happening publicly for the entire world to see um does not make this incident more tragic and it's no different than any other murder is asinine. That's problematic. Of course, it's bad because he died from political violence, but it's much worse that the entire world saw this man get clipped the way that he did. It was [ __ ] tragic. People are not meant to see that. Murder is murderous. Absolutely not the case. The severity of the the actions, the the the the grotesqueness of the actions and on top of the fact people were able to see it. Children were able to see it. Students were able to see it. Mothers and fathers were able to see it. It absolutely makes the situation worse. That's much more severe of a societal issue that we're struggling with as a whole cuz we've been we've been desensitized to things to [ __ ] on what happened to Charlie Kirk the way that he did and say it's no different than anything else. And him being assassinated publicly like that doesn't make anything worse. Bro, I pose a question to y'all, man. Charlie Kirk dying the way that he did, being assassinated the way he did, being shot down the way he did, does that make his situation worse? Does that impact society more? Are people traumatized more? Are people going to have bad dreams more? Are those images going to be burnt in the back of people's minds more? It's entirely different from, you know, back in the day a a a death row inmate dying from the death penalty from the chair and you read about it, but then to actually see it. Come on, man. Come on, man. It's absolutely different reading the amount of abortions that take place in America, but to actually see an abortion take place, the visual provided, bro, it makes the game entirely different, dog. makes the game entirely different, bro. Because we're humans. We're not meant to see that [ __ ] And we can empathize much more when we have the action take place in front of us. So to [ __ ] on that and say it's equal to just any murder, absolutely not, bro. Absolutely not. Honestly, it made me think about, you know, what things Aba has experienced, you know, personally to to address it that way. I mean, like, you have to be desensitized. You have to have to humanize people to a certain point to say, "Nah, it ain't no different than me reading a headline saying somebody got shot, right?" Nah, bro. It's entirely different. But yeah, this was whack. This was whack. Um, all right. Got some more time. I'm going try to get through the rest of this.
>> I remember hearing that and then I asked that about him and this and he's like, "Yeah, I feel like the right is a bit more logical and things like that."
>> You said the left is more emotional. So, I feel like you think the right is more logical. Yeah, I'd agree with that take.
>> Okay. And as we discussed the whole topic of good versus evil, there's a portion of it that's really interesting.
>> The cancer needs to be cut out, bro. Ain't no talking to them and it needs to be get these [ __ ] out of here. It is war because ain't no talking to them. Anything you say to them, they need to be deterred. They need to be controlled. They need to be [ __ ] exiled, decapitated. Whatever, whatever your cup of tea is, bro.
>> That's what he said in the original. Now, I'm going to be super good faith and think he was being hyperbolic and emotional at the time, and he didn't mean to say that. We shouldn't take off the heads of people who said this stuff, but I'm going just assume that. I'm going to be very good faith. Think he was just being spur of the moment. Let's listen.
>> I told him what I meant. I said I was just saying things to make everyone that felt what I was saying feel. But whatever, bro. Whatever. This is some uh some sensitive [ __ ]
>> I'mma I'mma disagree with you. I think people who do evil things aren't necessarily evil. I think sometimes they're hurt. I think sometimes they are in a really bad place. I think sometimes these are folks that, you know, and it's almost ironic, too, because I do believe that people should be punished for the things that they do and they should suffer those consequences. But I don't think they're irredeemable. Labeling someone evil, I think, is a way for us to look at something and then simplify it. But the reality is that things are complex. People are complex and the reason why they get to that place is very difficult. You know, there's plenty of people who were white supremacists or part of horrible gangs and came back from it.
>> How many people went to gangs and later on went to be the kind of people keep kids out of gangs?
>> Horrible things and came back from it. Same thing on the left side.
>> Get back from it. They better get back from it before it's too late. That's all I'm saying. Cuz I ain't got time to care about why they are that they are.
>> Now, just before we keep going this, I should also be accountable in the way that I engage in discourse cuz plenty of times where I have probably written people off out of frustration because you just see a lot of [ __ ] every day. We all have those feelings. The important part is that when we're talked back from that ledge, we don't stay there. Because the moment you start looking at people and looking at large swaths of people and saying they need to lose their freedoms, they need to do this. Listen, y'all can think it's desip. I agree it's despicable. I agree there's a lot of bad things, but doesn't mean that these people should lose their freedoms cuz then we go into a place now where you are now criminalizing things that aren't criminal. They might be abhorent. It might be views you don't agree with, but part of living in a free society means that the views that you have, you're allowed to hold them and still be free. Now, we might not employ you. We might cancel you, but this idea that we're going to bring violence, that we're going to bring police officer, we're going to put you in jail because we don't like what you stand for. Understand how that can be used for persecution.
>> Aba is disingenuous as [ __ ] bro. What the [ __ ] dog? This is crazy, man. I don't know. I can't. It's like we were we having the same conversation, bro. You know what I mean? My whole point in that conversation was there's no talking to them. That's all I said. There's no talking to them. You know what I mean? and he's trying to take this moral high ground saying that, you know, I'm talking I'm I'm saying that uh people should not be allowed to say what they say, right? Depending upon what you say and and what is done from what you're saying you're going to do, right? You deserve to get your freedom taken. You know what I mean? Or you say the wrong thing to somebody, somebody can hold you accountable. You I mean you say you you say talking [ __ ] you're gonna have to back up that [ __ ] you talking at some point. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, bro, the the the whole point do I need do I need to bring up timestamps for that? I thought it's just eye opening. It's eye opening to me, bro. The fact that he's taking things entirely out of context trying to present a narrative when you can go see the conversation for yourself. I mean, if you want to cherrypick in different points of the conversation to manufacture a narrative, bro, that's the whole problem we have with Charlie Kirk, bro. You picking and choosing what you want to focus on and taking all the context out of it, bro. All I I label all these [ __ ] as evil and there's nothing you can do with these evil [ __ ] bro. You know what I mean? At one point he said, "Well, if if it's possible if it's possible for these people's uh minds to be changed at some point due with, you know, time, patience, or whatnot, are they truly evil?" All right. Yeah. But that, you know what I'm saying? He's he's being contrarian at that point. That's not even all that's not the that wasn't the point. The point is we got some evil sadistic [ __ ] at this point right now who don't deserve any of my time and a lot of others time by the energy by the things by the demonic evil things that they're they're spewing online that they're spewing in public I mean to me personally in regards to someone's life being taken bro it's like there's no talking to some people there may be some talking if you you know what I'm saying a nun that can sit there sit there and waste your time talking to a all at some point. But these fools have to go on their own [ __ ] journey. I dropped a whole video about it, bro. Like some people you just can't talk to. Let them die on that sword, bro. All this kumbaya [ __ ] it's not reality, dog. That's why wars take place. You know what I mean? It's why countries don't like each other. It's why people don't like each other, bro. Differences in opinion. And if you say the wrong [ __ ] you do the wrong thing, there's consequences, repercussions for it. all this, bro. I don't know. I ain't got time, dog. I'mma go for a little bit more, bro. But taking me out of context is diabolical.
>> Shin someday. You might be a religious person. What if the country becomes much more liberal or much more atheist? You might be the person who they come for one day and call evil. This is definitely the time where you want to tone that kind of stuff down. Now, I know it's not easy. I'm not going to sit here on my soap box and pretend I'm perfect. I've done it myself. But this is the emotional side of things. You know we talk about people being emotional. This is called being emotional. You might feel justified. You might feel righteous. But the moment you just say everybody who did this is just evil. Then what that happens is that going after these people becomes justice. If you hurt them, it's not bad because it's justice. You smited evil. That's all we got.
>> Yeah. Aba ain't [ __ ]
>> He ain't [ __ ] Bro, I got to pull up another snip. Something I just posted, bro. I told the fool in the middle of the conversation, dog. You trying to put words on me. Said you being emotional. You think it with your whatever. No, dog. I said it's logical for me to cut these people off because it would be a waste of time communicating with these people. That's why I don't [ __ ] with them. Don't [ __ ] surprise me about the [ __ ] world. And I was extremely surprised to see that amount of [ __ ] There's nothing I can categorize label as outside of [ __ ] evil or people I didn't [ __ ] expect. Even people that I I know personally, bro, that I didn't even think have that type of [ __ ] in them is out here celebrating a man's death that way.
>> But that's my point. I I get how you feel. I get the whole, you know, like the the sensation of like this world is a dark place and like we can't even negotiate.
>> I'm not gonna say the world's dark place. I'm just saying that part of the world got no hope.
>> I'm saying there's no hope for these [ __ ] You may give them hope. I'm not. They could burn.
>> You can't approach the world's problem from a hyper emotional place. And that's what you're doing right now. You're letting the passion and the emotion of the moment govern how you view
>> you misquing me, bro. There is emotion tied to it, bro. I'm a human being. I like I'm not a [ __ ] machine. But I I told you the reason why I feel comfortable having this perspective on it is because logically I know that there's no way to talk these people out of it. That's a waste of time. That's a waste of effort for what?
>> What's this logic? This logic that you can't talk people out of extremism.
>> There's no talking to any of these extremists, these evil [ __ ] out of their frame of mind until they take their own journey to do it. And I'm not going to sit here wasting my time trying to take them out when they they not ready to have that conversation. If you're not willing or you're not interested in that discussion, that's fine. But saying that there's no way to talk people out of forms of
>> Yeah, there is a way. There is a way. I'm just saying I'm not signing up for it. You can't. I'm not. Right. I feel good about it because I don't [ __ ] with them, right? But why would I waste my why would I waste my time talking to someone that there's no point in talking to? It's a logical thing to do. I'm done with this, dog. I'm sitt wasting my time. I'm I'm repeating myself, bro. It's like all taken out of context. And he's cherrypicking. He's doing the same thing social media does. Cherry-picking certain things to bring attention to to address a [ __ ] point that had nothing to do with the conversation at the end of the day. You know what I mean? The conversation the the the the debate was about how he minimized Kirk's death and him manufacturing a narrative. That those are my issues, bro. And then he's cherry-picking different things to, I guess, have this moral high ground, trying to be on some, you know, Gandhi [ __ ] We can all live in peace together. No, bro. No, dog. But whatever. Whatever, dog. This [ __ ] is [ __ ] this this is whack. I mean, this is whack. And it's whack because it's unexpected from, you know, I don't know, you know what I mean? But, you know, now I'm having a uh, you know, real [ __ ] to base my opinion on him off of, bro. And this is very disingenuous. He's manufacturing a narrative again. He's taking me out of context and he's cherrypicking things to address in this video that were pretty much irrelevant in our conversation, bro. I mean, I hit bro up on Instagram, dog. So, I don't want to do this online. I mean, ain't no beef here. Ain't none of that [ __ ] Ain't that [ __ ] serious, dog. But I'm definitely surprised by this dog. So y'all do with that what y'all will, bro. But you know what I'm saying? I appreciate the attention, dog. I appreciate the views or whatnot. I appreciate, you know what I'm saying? You know, all publicity is good publicity, bro. But you know, um, it's giving fake, bro. [Music]