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As the daughter of pastors, I began to experience depression and anxiety. I wanted to end my life, and the day I thought I was going to die was the day I said to God, "Why didn't you let me die? Why didn't you kill me?" And that's when the Holy Spirit told me, "What's happening is that my purpose goes beyond who you are." I didn't like to worship, I didn't like to sing, I felt I didn't have the ability to achieve it. Where do your worships come from? I started writing without knowing I was writing a song, and tell me, I want you to write what you are feeling now. My Lord, I can't stand this process. My mind says I can't, that I should give up and leave everything here. My heart wasn't ready because I was looking for fame, for exhibition. Look, I feel it, you want to project yourself. So, when you want to project yourself and you want to, you know, show off yourself, then the Holy Spirit isn't there because that is pride. So, the Holy Spirit needed to work with my heart for me to understand that under no circumstances was it for me. I said, "Wow, Lord, truly you are faithful. God bless you, God keep you in a special way. The peace of God be with you, your house, your family, your ministry, everything you represent in the Lord. Welcome to your platform Benancia Ampar Oficial. This got serious. On this occasion, we are here outside the studio. You can already see the atmosphere because we are in a part of our beloved Dominican Republic, Puerto Plata, known for tourism, but also for men and women of God who have risen with a revival. And on this occasion, we have a young woman whom God is using, our sister worshiper Coral La Luz. God bless you, anointed one. God bless you, Venancia. It is a pleasure for me to be with you, and I know that the Holy Spirit will make many lives full. How do you feel? I feel very good, thank God. Amen. So it's a pleasure to have you with us and to have this chat, this conversation that I know will be a blessing to many people. Uh, those who are here in the Dominican Republic have heard how the Lord has used you even outside the country, uh, with worship, through worship God has ministered. But many people have heard "Vuelve Arder" and how you worship the Lord with that fervor, but I would like to know where you come from, what your childhood was like, and how you were formed in the Lord. Well, I was born into the gospel. My parents, uh, raised me from a young age and truly instilled Christian values in me. However, it wasn't until I turned 16 that the Holy Spirit had an encounter with me, and that's when I truly understood, uh, what my assignment was here on earth. Uh, when you are born into the gospel, what were the first things you began to experience within the church? Well, they used to have me sing in the children's services. I sang in the children's services from a young age. Uh, my parents were always involved in the ministry, and they always involved me, always tried to get me to participate, and that made me passionate about the altar. And did you desire to be a preacher, a worshiper, truly from your childhood? Well, when I was a child, yes, I liked it, but when I entered adolescence and my parents began to pastor, I entered into rebellion with God. I no longer liked to worship, I no longer liked to sing, I said, "That's not for me." And my dad always told me, he insisted a lot, he told me, "Coral, you know you have a calling." My mom also always kept pushing what was in me. But I began to enter, uh, into that rebellion and felt like I didn't have the ability to achieve it. Mm. And that's what made me, instead of advancing, withdraw into myself, I even wanted to be of another religion. I no longer liked the evangelical church. What did you like? I wanted to be Adventist because, as I grew up, I grew up in an Adventist school, as I grew up, I began to have a lot of shyness, I began to have depression, anxiety, because I was very chubby, I entered into depression because of it, because people made fun of me and all that. And that caused my identity, my identity in Christ, my identity as a person, to be damaged. And that's when I no longer knew if I wanted to be evangelical, if I wanted to be Adventist, I mean, I was already in a labyrinth, really. And when that thought came, how did you end up? I see you're not Adventist, you're Pentecostal, one of those who catch the fire of the anointing. How, in that stage, did you decide for the evangelical, for Pentecostalism? Well, as I was saying, at 16 years old, I had an encounter with the Holy Spirit where I wanted to end my life. My parents didn't know, being the children of pastors, people sometimes believe, right? Because if you are a pastor's child, you don't have to have those kinds of desires. But Satan tries to mark your life, you know, and tries to make you get lost. And I really began to have suicidal thoughts from the age of 13, but it wasn't until around the age of 15 to 16 that the suicidal thoughts began, and at one point I attempted my life, I took pills, and the day I thought I was going to die, that day I said, "Well, that's it, I'm going to take the pills and that's it." That was the day the Holy Spirit gave me a vision. After I took the pill, I fell asleep, and then I had a vision where I was ministering and speaking in tongues. I mean, I didn't speak in tongues, I didn't like any of that. And I saw myself speaking in tongues, and I saw myself in a way that was not the current Coral. I saw something in me that I said, "That's not me." And I was speaking in tongues and prophesying, and I was as if in an auditorium with many people, and people were receiving. And when I opened my eyes and woke up, I started crying and I said to God, "Why didn't you let me die? Why didn't you kill me?" And that's when the Holy Spirit told me, "What's happening is that my purpose goes beyond who you are." God, I will never forget that. Never. That encounter with the Holy Spirit made me understand that it wasn't even because I wanted to, it was because He had chosen me. My God, terrible. Now, when you have that vision of yourself on fire speaking in tongues, all in that stage, in that context of what you were living, we see that God is glorified. From then on, what happened to you? From then on, I began to be passionate about the altar. I joined the church group, I began to sing, I did choirs and all that. I was in the dance ministry, in the children's ministry, in the cleaning ministry, in all the ministries. I put myself in everything. However, the Holy Spirit had not yet baptized me. I was in everything, but I hadn't yet had that encounter, you know, with the Holy Spirit, I mean, I hadn't received the manifestation of the Holy Spirit and fire in me, until one day, at the age of 17, I was singing in my congregation, and the Holy Spirit took me in such a powerful way because, as I explained before the interview, I have a very different personality from how people see me roaring, running, I mean, I am very shy, I have, you know, I'm a bit shy outside of what has to do with the stage, and that day I understood that your identity as a person has nothing to do with what God wants to do with you. I mean, immediately the Holy Spirit took me, I mean, the shy Coral, the one who was embarrassed, all of that disappeared. Immediately the Holy Spirit took me. From that day on, my life changed. From the arrival of the Spirit, from when the Holy Spirit arrived and baptized me, everything was different. Now, when the Holy Spirit came into your life, how did you begin to commune with him? Because one thing is for him to come, to remain, but to keep him, there is a process for him to be with us. How was that process? In that process, I no longer settled for feeling him from time to time. I already told him, "I want you to remain in me." So, uh, I began to do penance because that's what they instilled in me. I began to do penance, I began to fast. I fasted for 2 years for God to use me. Wait, let me tell you something. When she says penance, the penance we do here in the Dominican Republic is a penance of faith. How of faith? We believe that sleeping on the floor is not biblical penance. No. We believe that sleeping on the floor has not yielded results, and most people here in the Dominican Republic who are being used and were used did that type of penance. You did penance for 2 years. Two years for God to use me, and God told me he wasn't going to use me. Wait. You spent two years seeking God in penance because of a sacrifice. Uh-huh. And God tells you, "I'm not going to use you." How did he tell you? How did you take that? Because when I began to commune with the Holy Spirit, I wanted to feel that manifestation that I felt that day. I wanted it to be everywhere, but just as God did it with me, it would touch other people while I worshiped. But what happens is that I began to seek God so that he would use me, not to know him. So that's where I made my mistake, because I understood that if I did penance, if I fasted, God would use me, because that's what they had taught me. But the Holy Spirit told me, "No, I don't want you to seek me so that I can use you. I want you to live for me. I want you to be for me. I want you to breathe for me." I mean, it's not just Coral, start seeking so that people know that God uses you. So those two years were two years where the Holy Spirit began to form me, to transform me, to commune with me. The Holy Spirit began to teach me what it was to truly know him, that it wasn't about the screen, it wasn't about tongues, it wasn't about a shaking, no. He began to teach me his fruits. Yes, because many people believe that because God uses you, you have the fruits of the Holy Spirit, and they are very different things. Explain that to me. Look, I wanted God to use me, but I had things in my life, in my character, in my way of being that really, wow, really took me away from God's presence. I thought that by seeking God for 2 years in penance, God would be closer to me. Because I understood that being used meant being closer to God, but God told me, "No. If you don't have my fruits, spiritually speaking, if you don't have my fruits, you won't be able to achieve what you truly have to long for, and that is salvation." My God. Someone who is simply used but doesn't have salvation, unfortunately, I mean, people who are chasing after God using them, after being known, after being famous, after being prominent in the area where you might be flowing, but they forget that the fruits of the spirit are what will allow you to enter heaven. And the Lord taught me that my ministry could not come before my salvation. God, that your ministry does not come before your salvation. Of course, because many times we do many things for God and end up disconnecting from God, and that is what we as ministers must take care of. Now, when you have that experience with God, because it was a powerful experience, totally, that you wanted to be used, and that's what I wanted, for you to have a relationship with her. Exactly. From that moment on, I would like you to explain to me, at the level of your education in school, what was Coral La Luz like? Yes, because many times we talk about who we are at the altar, but beneath the altar, how are we? Well, I used to like to fight a lot. Yes, yes. I was very feisty. I was quiet, but I was one of those people who was impulsive. Okay. Anything made me fight, argue. So, uh, later on, when I began to know the Holy Spirit, then I began to be shy, and instead of being feisty, I kind of compressed myself, and really, the people from my school who see me now, they don't believe it. No, no. They tell me, "No, that's not literal Coral. That's not you, really. It's not that, that's what we see, that's not what we knew, you know, because God sometimes allows people to see nothing in you, for people to think that perhaps you will be, I don't know, just another person in life, or that perhaps you will be a failure because what I projected, it truly projected failure. Yes. I didn't see myself as a young woman with vision, nor did I see myself as someone who projected that I would do something in life, or anything like that. And the Lord truly has his ways of doing things. Okay. Uh, from that moment on, when people begin to see that change, that a person in school had that demeanor, now is passive, quiet, because what the Holy Spirit does is that the Holy Spirit makes those who are very strong, meek. Yes, it's true. And that is truly the work of the Holy Spirit. Wisdom, patience, everything develops in your life. Now, how do you begin to minister at the altar? Uh, in a way that you say, I am truly a worshiper who will worship God through song. How do you define yourself? Because I feel and see that you can also preach. Oh, oh, oh. Well, look, after the Lord had that personal encounter with me, then, uh, they had an event here in Puerto Plata. And I had, I always say that there are always people you need to have by your side who will push what you are in God. And I remember I had some friends from another congregation, and they would say, "Come on, we'd start singing, let's go sing somewhere." But nothing was formal, nothing formal. And the Holy Spirit united me with people who believed in me more than I did. Mm. There were people who were key in my calling, in my ministry, who were my age, from my same circle, and they would tell me, "Coral, but you can sing, you can do this." I mean, they believed a lot in what I had, but I didn't believe in what God had given me, because that was truly a process too, for me to believe in what I was from God. You didn't believe it. No, no, no. The truth is, I didn't. I really said, "No, I'm not cut out for that." I mean, I knew God had called me, but I felt like I had to go through a process, that it wasn't at the time they were telling me. And one day, one of my companions, my friends, told me, "But let's make a video, let's put you on Instagram so that, you know, the people of Puerto Plata can get to know you and all that." And he recorded me. And then, uh, a person who was going to do an event here in Puerto Plata said, "Oh, look, I would like her to open the event that we are going to do there in Puerto Plata." So, that day I opened that event, and one of the people who was going to sing was Cales, Carles Luima. I bless, I bless the life of Cales wherever he is. And I remember that day, I had to minister, and after I finished ministering, he approached me and said, "Look, I need you to minister with us wherever we go." And that's when the Holy Spirit used him to be a channel of blessing for our lives. There we started going out with C, with more guys from Puerto Plata too, who also started with us in the ministry, and it was truly something too beautiful, it was something too lovely because that's where the Holy Spirit used that platform to continue expanding our ministry. Okay. People who are wondering, Cales Luima is a worshiper who belongs to, or rather, is from our neighboring country, Haiti, but we have truly adopted him. When we talk about Cales, we talk about the Dominican Republic because he is a tremendous man of God and he is also very famous here in the Dominican Republic and abroad. Coral, there's a point, and that is that you have released how many songs? Well, I have released three songs. Three songs. Most people know that there are people who sing, they are good interpreters, yes, but they are not good writers. So, where do your worships, your songs to the Lord, come from? Well, one of them, I didn't actually write it. I released it in 2021, but after that, the Holy Spirit began to give me lyrics. I didn't know I was writing that either. I discovered it through the process. Yes, yes. Because the process either kills you or makes you produce. One of the two. And in that process that I lived with, who is that, which was one of the first songs the Lord gave me to write? It was a very difficult process where I started writing without knowing I was writing a song because I was sitting in my room and I started talking to the Lord about a process I was going through at my job, precisely I was going through a process at my job where the [ __ ] was hurting me, and I was also having many problems in many personal areas of my life. And that's when I started writing, the Holy Spirit gave me inspiration, and I started writing, a tempest broke out, and my boat was sinking. I mean, literally the Holy Spirit was speaking to me, a strong wind arose, it wouldn't let me get up. I mean, the Lord was giving me every word in my ear, that when I say it, people think it's a lie. I mean, people say, "But how? I mean, how can God speak to you audibly?" It wasn't something like I heard someone speaking, but it was something to my spirit. Do you understand me? It was something to my spirit. Those who know about this know what I mean. And it was incredible because the lyrics, when I started singing them, they rhymed, everything rhymed, it was God gave me the lyrics, he gave me the melody, it was incredible. So, uh, he gave me the chorus right there, and the Holy Spirit began to tell me, "Write who is that, to whom even the wind and the sea obey." The Holy Spirit told me about the biblical story where Jesus calms the tempest, and the Holy Spirit told me, "I am the one who will calm that tempest that has broken out in your work, in your personal life, and I will do it." So, immediately I wrote that song. The Lord connected me with people who also helped me. Uh, at that time, my parents, my husband began to help me financially and all that, and well, it was born. Who is that? Yes, it's good that you mentioned Coral is married. Yes, of course. Show your ring. Show your ring. She is married. Yes. How long have you been married? 4 years married. Glory to God. Benancio is also married. But Coral, what was the expectation with that worship? with the second worship, I think, "Who is that," right? Uh, what did you think God had told you? Because you tell me that prophets had come, that they had given you words. Well, look, humanly speaking, I know that everyone, when we have a project, wants it to be a success, because that's something people can't say, "No, I do it for love, I do it not." Everyone has the desire for what God puts in your hands to be fruitful. Uh, so God had given me a word through prophets before I released it, and they told me, "God is giving you a song that will transcend, that will be known, and through that song, you will be known, and people will know Puerto Plata because of that song." I understood when God told me "Who is that," that it was that song. Yes. Because the prophets didn't tell me. It was going to be the second basis of a song, but since I had never written a song, I understood it was that one, and I got frustrated because after "Who is that" came out, "Who is that" transcended, of course, but not to the level of, you know, "Vuelve Arder." It was like a foundation that God prepared. That's what I understood. But at the moment, I said to the Lord, "But why did you make me do this if what you told me through the prophets didn't happen?" Because many times we don't understand that the prophetic word can come, but the prophetic time is another thing. The word will be unleashed in your life, but at the right time that God determines, the word will germinate. So, I understood that that word they had given me, uh, at first I said, "But, are the prophets making it up that it's going to be like that?" It was going to be, no, they weren't making it up. It's just that it wasn't the time, and it wasn't perhaps the song, although it is a very powerful song for which I give glory and honor to the Lord, because it ministers to me a lot and has ministered to many people, but God needed to process my heart before what happened with "Vuelve Arder" happened. So, you told me that your heart wasn't really ready, right? For the exposure at that time. Of course, of course. Why do you think so? My heart wasn't ready for many things, honestly, I'm very honest when I speak. The first thing is that my heart wasn't ready because I was looking for that. You know? When you're after that, you're after fame, exhibition, then I understand your heart isn't ready because you want to project yourself. Look, I feel it. You want to project yourself. So, when you want to project yourself and you want to, you know, show off yourself, then the Holy Spirit isn't there because that is pride. So the Holy Spirit needed to work with my heart for me to understand that under no circumstances was it for me. Do you understand me? I mean, I understood that, well, "Who is that?" Wow, I wrote a song, this is going to be for me, and mommy, no, it will never be for you, and I'm going to show you why it won't be for you. And this is what the Holy Spirit did with me, I mean, it processed my soul in such a way that it made me understand that I was nobody, it removed my interest in pursuing things. I understood that when you seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness, that follows you. The word of God is not mistaken when it says that it is an addition, you understand? So I understood that that was like my everything. I mean, I focused on that. I felt that without that, I was nobody. And no, dear, you are simply my servant. You have to understand that more than a singer, more than being recognized, more than fame, more than all that, you are my servant, and I want you to know that I am taking you step by step so that you never steal my glory, you understand? I was going to steal the glory. I was going to take ownership of what God had given me because it was God, it was never me. I mean, I'm not a writer. I mean, even now God has given me more songs, and I consider God to be the author. God is the author of every lyric and every song. I don't really consider myself to have written anything. God, God is the author. Totally. Tremendous. Yes. That, that, that is tremendous. And I really listen to you speak, and I remember that God ministered to me once, telling me that he was going to raise a new generation of worshipers. Amen. Because a generation had risen, but many became corrupted. And I believe you are part of that generation that God has already raised. Amen. Because the heart of man is worth a lot to manifest the anointing. Amen. If the heart is damaged, everything is damaged. That's right. And that's why God first works on our hearts, right? To then give us the exhibition. Totally. Now, when all your expectation is so low, when everything falls, when you feel, I put my resources, everything. How long did it take you to write "Vuelve Arder" after "Who is that"? Well, after "Who is that," a year and something passed after "Who is that," and I had absolutely no intention of writing again. No, no. I had no intention of writing again or releasing any single. I said, "Well, that's it. I understood that that word fell by the wayside. I'm going to dedicate myself to being in my church. I am a youth pastor in my congregation." And I said, "Well, I'm going to dedicate myself to leading the youth, to singing in my church." And that's where it stayed. I'm not going to do anything else. And after that, when I understood that everything had ended, then the Lord began to deal with my life, began to deal with areas of my life that I didn't know about, because there are things you don't know about yourself. And as David says, examine my heart. What is there? Because there are things you think, no, I am humble, I am not, lies. There are things in you that are hidden, that hide until God exposes you in intimacy. I mean, what exposes you is having contact with the Holy Spirit. And that's what exposed me. I mean, the more connected to the source you are, the more the Lord will expose what you need to change. That's why some people get frustrated. I'm going to make a parenthesis here, they get frustrated and say, "But I'm seeking God, and the more I seek God, the more I see bad things about myself." It's that the more you expose yourself to the light, the more the darkness will recede, and you will see more of what is truly inside. So I understood that when I sought God's presence, the more God began to bring out that Coral who was selfish, that Coral who had pride, who wanted things only for herself. I mean, I understood everything that God really had to transform me through exposure, I mean, through the touch of the Holy Spirit. There was an exposure, you understand? There was an exposure where everything that was inside came out. So, when everything came out, then I said, "Holy Spirit, okay, you want me to transform all this, fine, let's work on it." And I began to work on it. The Holy Spirit began to transform my character too, because I have a very strong character, as you see me, my God. Yes. The Holy Spirit began to work on my character as a wife, as a daughter, as a leader. Oh God. God began to work on me in many areas. I say it, and even, and that is powerful because truly Coral, sometimes we are excellent ministers, but we are very poor at the family, personal level, and the anointing, we think the anointing will cover all that, and we understand that the Apostle Paul told Timothy, "Be an example in everything." Yes. In everything. Truly, I understood what it was to live for Christ. To live for Christ is to deny yourself totally, and denying yourself is difficult, denying what you want, what you think, is quite difficult. And it cost me, but it's not impossible because in secret God will give you the tools so that you can achieve it. God gave me all the tools, and I give glory to the Lord because the people God put by my side, my husband, my parents, they truly form a fundamental part of my spiritual growth, because there are people who want to be exhibited, who want God to use them here, who want to, but they don't let anyone govern them, I mean, they don't allow their pastors to lead them, they don't allow their leaders to correct them. And God had to forge me in that area of my life. You have to learn to be correctable, to have humility, and all that truly costs. When you think you are always right, when you think you know everything, God will bring you down and take away your mental pride, because people say, "No, because pride is thinking you are better than other people." No, you also have pride in not listening to advice. Yes. Not sitting down to listen to another person, that is pride. Yes. And God worked a lot with me, a lot. I mean, I can tell you that if God hadn't come into my life, I understand, I mean, in that way, because, and as I told you, I had an encounter with God and all that, but I still hadn't had the revelation of what God truly wanted to do with me. I thought I knew God, still ministerially, having already been ministering for three years, giving the word. I thought I knew God because I had already been freed from depression. I felt, well, I know him now, but no way. When you think you know him now, that's when you have to start all over again to know him today. And the Lord truly has me in love. Yes, yes, the truth is. Are you in love with God? Totally. God made me understand that when you have him, you lack absolutely nothing. And truly, it has been a blessing to have God in my life, in my family, in my marriage. It is a blessing, truly. Now, when God works all that in you, how is the song "Vuelve Arder" written? How does it come about? In what condition were you, what was happening? Look, when "Vuelve Arder" was born, my heart was already, "Lord, whatever you want, I am willing to do whatever you want." Although I had my humanity struggling with me, it told me, "No, don't do it." I mean, there were voices, as the song says, in my mind telling me, "Don't do it. You won't achieve it, you won't get there." I mean, don't even dare to do it. You don't have the connections, you don't have the economy, you have absolutely nothing. Don't dare to do it. However, one day at an event I was at in Santiago, that was in October 2024, the Holy Spirit spoke to me through a person and said, "You are going to have an event, and that event will have a mark, and I will give you songs to project at that same event." And I said to the Lord, "Father, how are you talking to me about an event when I don't have any songs written?" And the Holy Spirit said, "The event will be called 'Vuelve a Arder'," the Holy Spirit told me. I mean, the first thing God gave me was the name of the event. I mean, "Vuelve a Arder." And I said to the Holy Spirit, "Lord, yes, but, I mean, I've never done an event. My parents have, because they are pastors, but I understood it was my responsibility, you know. And I had the burden on me. I said, "My God, I mean, tell me how I'm going to do it because I don't have the resources." And God truly gave me that he wanted me to do something with excellence, you know, within what God truly allowed. And it was something so powerful that when God spoke to me that day, penan, it was tremendous. That same night the Lord told me, "The song will be about Jeremiah and it will be about the same process you have had to live." Jeremiah 20:9, when Jeremiah says, "I wanted to silence it, I wanted to abandon it, but there was something inside me that burned, that was stronger than me, and I couldn't reject it, I couldn't contain it." And that's when, uh, the first thing that was born was the chorus. "Arde otra vez, yo no puedo renunciar a ti." That was the first thing that was born because God didn't give me the song instantly, the whole thing that day. It was the first, the chorus that was born. "Arde otra vez, yo no puedo renunciar a ti," and then nothing else. I mean, only that, only that. And then in January I said to God, "Lord, remember that you spoke to me in October, but you haven't spoken to me again." So, a worshiper, my friend from Santo Domingo, came here to Puerto Plata, and she told me, "Coral, but come here, why haven't you started recording? I haven't seen you, and I said, "No, sister, I'm really praying to the Lord for direction, but I'm praying, and mommy, get on it, start writing, start recording because I really feel that you have, you are like ready." She told me. I told her, "Well, let's see what God wants." I told her, "And when I got home, her words didn't leave my head. God has already given you the word, God has given you everything, that you don't need money, the only thing you need is God." And when I got home, I said to the Lord, "Father, this is a process because my husband right now doesn't have the resources because we are going through an economic process. My parents either, I mean, who could also help me, let's say, and I really only counted on them, and now tell me." Then the Holy Spirit said to me, "You will depend on me." No, Lord, I can't stand this process. I mean, and people, when they sing it, don't understand that I was talking to God. Literally, it was a conversation of mine with God, and God told me, "I want you to write to me what you are telling me, I want you to write what you are feeling now." So I started writing, and I grabbed a sheet of paper and a pencil, and I said, "My Lord, I can't stand this process. My mind says I can't, that I should give up and leave everything here." I mean, literally, I was telling that to God. So right there, the voices in my mind started talking to me. I didn't write the voices of my mind, the voices of my mind started saying, "I think you're writing, you won't get there, God won't fulfill it. You won't achieve it." I mean, the voice of my mind told me. So, since the voices in my mind were attacking me, I mean, the [ __ ] was hurting me, I wrote that. I said, "The voices in my mind don't stop shouting that he didn't choose me and that I would be alone here." I mean, literally, as people hear it, it was exactly as God gave it to me. That nothing, that nothing will happen, that I won't get there, that nothing will change. And when I was writing that I wouldn't get there, the [ __ ] told me, "You don't have the resources, you won't get there, you don't have connections, you won't get there." That he won't fulfill it. Remember that a word was sold to you, right? You understand. A word was sold to you, but it wasn't fulfilled. That he won't fulfill it, that he won't sustain me. You don't have the economic means to achieve it. But there, but that's where I said, "No, wait, it's true, everything you're telling me, [ __ ], is a reality, certainly, but there's a fire that drives me to get there. My God. So, there's a fire inside me that doesn't, I mean, it doesn't let me give up. No matter how much you tell me all these realities, no. That fire is inside me." So that's where I wrote, "But there's a fire that floods me and drives me to get there." So then I let out a scream in my house that I think all the neighbors heard because I literally screamed, "Arde otra vez!" I screamed it, not sung, screamed. "I can't give up on that." I said it crying, on my knees. That glory that has served me, that whole stanza was cried, on my knees in my house, tears, tears, tears, and I sang to the Lord as if I knew the song. Yes, yes. With the same melody, everything that people are hearing, that glory that brings me, that fire that burns within me, I sang to God literally, that reminds me that he is my owner, and although I know I don't deserve it, "Vuelve a arder." And then I went to my friend, the producer Israel Martínez, I bless him in the name of Jesus. And I told him, "Look, God gave me this song, this is how it is, this is how it is." And well, the rest is excellent. You have the writing, right? You can.
Record the resources now because it's okay, God, you give me the word, you give me the message, but I have a commission that I have to do an activity. Exactly. And everyone who has done an activity knows that an activity with the excellence that God required you to do it, he takes his resources and there is a live recording. Mm. It wasn't that you were going to put it there, it was already a live recording. That requires multimedia, cameras, all of that. Uh, where, what happened? Look, when I already have the song, because God gives me "Vuelve," but then he gives me other songs that people will listen to later. That's true. God gives you the scripture, returns to the altar, but then he started giving you more songs. And how now, before it gets there, how do you say the one I'm going to release is "Vuelve a Arder"? Look, that was a divine conviction because we had a dispute among ourselves, there's another song that's going to come out, it's called "Desátenlo," okay? Which talks about Lazarus. And this song, uh, it told me, "Look, release 'Desátenlo' first because it's prophetic, it's like this, it's like that." But what happens is that "Vuelve a Arder" and "Desátenlo" were born, uh, in a prophetic atmosphere, an atmosphere of spiritual madness. Of those atmospheres where God enters and God starts giving you lyrics. That's how "Desátenlo" was born, but "Vuelve a Arder" was born based on the process, on pain, on me wanting to give up, and I told the guys, "No, 'Vuelve a Arder' is really the theme of the event, it has to come out first, 'Vuelve a Arder'." And well, afterwards we realized that that was the one that had to be released, because in the end we put everything on the table and we all agreed that that was it, and the Holy Spirit had also made me feel that that was the first one I had to release. So, uh, God gave me other songs, uh, for his glory and his honor, which, as I told you, he is the author, he was the one who wrote them, and well, I know people will be edified by them. So, how was that journey of being able to do the event? Because, uh, I didn't have the resources, there were processes. How, how was it all done? Look, uh, God gave me strategies because God gives you the word, but he also gives you divine strategies. Uh, we started, we were selling sweets, we sold everything, man, because truly, humanly, we really didn't have the resources, but we had to work, we had to do something, we couldn't just stay, "Lord, send the money." God has done it with other people, and I respect that, but we had to work, put into action what had already been given to us, meaning, faith without works is dead. And we had to start working according to what had already been unleashed for us, and we started, uh, doing sales. The people from my congregation, oh, I bless my church, I love them, I truly honor them, I honor my family, I honor my house, I honor my church, truly, I have a family, meaning, our slogan is "We are a family." Those people truly gave their all. We had hot dog sales, we had flea market sales, we had all kinds of sales, and we had to charge admission because truly, uh, uh, it cost a lot of money, an amount that was really not within our reach and it was very, you know, very high, because you know that we had to find, as you say, a cameraman, we had to find a videographer, we had to, there are many things, I'm going to detail them. But the Lord began to bring provisions, and while we were working, God touches people, and they didn't call us, they didn't say, "God spoke to me and told me to give this much. God spoke to me and told me to give." Without us telling anyone, just by working. And people started approaching us, it started, meaning, God began to work in such a way that an event that cost a very high amount, the Holy Spirit supplied everything. You know how when, you know? People always say there are debts left and things left. Look, this, this is crazy, truly, "Vuelve a Arder" has been crazy in every sense of the word. People, some people don't believe me. People don't believe me because truly, what we were charging for admission wasn't even enough, not even to pay for the venue, it wasn't enough because, you know, it was very high, meaning, I don't want to mention prices and all that, but everything was very high. And we were like, "Lord, okay, you're telling us to do this, but tell us about excellence and this, but send us the resources." And the Holy Spirit began to touch people. That was crazy, man. People called us from different, from different places, people that I didn't have that connection with for them to do that. And when people saw the event, they thought everything was covered, you know, because that's another thing. Meaning, during the days of the event, I also had stress and anxiety. Yes. Everything on top of me. Of course, because we did this event, but I also didn't know if people would come. Because tell me, we were selling tickets, but in the last few days, there were about 200 tickets left to sell. And what was the capacity? Uh, it had a capacity of 400 people. Okay. A capacity of 400 people, and the Holy Spirit did something crazy, it filled up. Meaning, on the day of the event, there was still almost half missing. Exactly. And the resources weren't there either. With a week left until the event, there was a lot of money missing, and the Holy Spirit did something crazy, it flowed, meaning, oh my God, what I mean, I don't want to mention the amount, but there were truly people who God touched and gave amounts that were crazy, meaning, that you literally knew it was God moving there, and the Holy Spirit paid for absolutely everything. And those people said, "I don't want my name mentioned, I don't want to, because that's another thing." There are people who, when God brings them to you, they say, "I don't want glory. I just want to bless the kingdom." And those people blessed us, they did everything they did, and they said, "No, no, never say we did anything here. We were simply sent by the Holy Spirit." Meaning, we realized then, meaning, this was God. And on the same day of the event, that was crazy. I forgot the song. Wait, wait. Uh, because I already had, uh, everyone who does an event knows what the battle is. Oh, oh, oh. What is the battle? Look, look, brother. I remember in 2023, the ministry's anniversary, the stress was so much that my nose exploded, and I preached like that, crazy and without ideas. You say it, you don't know it. It's chaos, it's a battle. But you forget the song. How was that moment? "Vuelve a Arder." "Vuelve a Arder." I forgot almost all of them because this is crazy. My God. Look, I'm going to tell you something. The pressure of the moment and the stress. Of course. Uh, something happened to you. Something happened to me, my hair fell out, all my hair fell out with this activity. Uh, I got severe acne because people think it's easy, but doing an activity, and more so a recording of that magnitude, involved a lot of responsibility, and even though they told me, "We're helping you, the church is paying," I felt a weight. Yes. And and the [ __ ] told me, "Even with days left, no one will come, no one will come." Meaning, no one will support you. Who will support you? Because, uh, people think it's easy, but with an activity, you also have your humanity that tells you, "No one will come, they will leave you alone." I said, "Well, thank God I have my brothers, the people from the church who will sing backup for me because they are my people." I said, "They, they will do something there, people." Yes. When I look, God surprised me in every way because on the day of the event, I thought hardly anyone would come. I said, "Well, they bought the ticket out of pity, but they won't come, man." People, uh, uh, started, uh, to gather. It was so full that people, uh, uh, almost fought to get in. I said, "But my God, who, who is it, who is coming?" Because it's not me, because people are, you know, like with something, and I said, "Wow, truly the Holy Spirit is in this." And I cried a lot. I, the first recording, we had to record twice because the first time, the words didn't come out for me. I cried a lot. In the same place, they had to record it twice. Yes, I cried a lot, a lot. I cried because it's not the same as God giving you a word. You had it materialized. Oh, God. You had it materialized. The truth is, when I was there in front of everyone, I said, "Wow, Lord, truly you are faithful." Yes, I don't want to get emotional because it was really intense. Meaning, I didn't believe that that would happen. I didn't believe it. When I saw the people, I said, I said, "Lord, truly when you speak, you back up what comes out of your mouth." And after that, everything, everything is history. Wow. Everything is history. My God, God, what is all that history after that? The truth is, yes, the Lord did it. God did it. They had to record it twice. They had to record it twice because at first I cried from pain. I arrived, and I couldn't even say even the first stanza. Meaning, I started crying, crying, crying, and I started singing, but singing with such anguish because I said, "No, but this is incredible." Meaning, I said like, "Job, I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eyes see you." Meaning, what you told me, I know you prepared me for this time. So, uh, as I was saying, to not, uh, not take away from the point of what you were telling me, that I forgot the songs due to the pressure of the activity. But I remember that in that early morning when I said, "Lord Father, I forgot." Meaning, the day before, I forgot all the songs, and I went to rehearse, we did the soundcheck, and I didn't, I didn't know the songs, and the guys looked at me like, the choir, everyone was worried because, choir, tell me, the moment arrived, and now you don't know them, and everyone looked at me like, tell me, what's wrong with you? Meaning, you don't know the song, and I said, I don't understand, meaning, the lyrics, they just slip away, they go away, meaning, the nerves make the lyrics go away, and I said, "Look, [ __ ], I bind you and I rebuke you. God has already prepared the stage, we, I lost my hair, I lost everything. This is the moment, here, here you are going to have to do something, Jehovah. Satan, you are leaving in the name of Jesus, you are getting out of my mind, you have no legality." And that's when I, uh, in the early morning, I didn't sleep that early morning. Meaning, as a worshiper, those who are watching me know that all-nighters kill anyone's throat. And I said, I'm not going to sleep. Jehovah, you are going to do something with my throat, I'm not going to sleep because I have to, I have to practice these songs. Because imagine, if I'm like this, up in the air, after God gave me the songs, we already have them recorded, we have everything, meaning, we have everything produced, how is it that now I'm not going to flow in the songs? And I started with a, with a brush and started looking at myself in the mirror and started singing, and I kept singing it, and I kept singing it. I looked crazy that early morning, and until at one point I said, "No, I know now that the song won't escape me." And in the morning, I already knew that God had done it. It is finished. It is done. And when they started recording the songs, what, what impacted you most about the event besides the people, what experience did you have that you said, "Wow, something that caught your attention at the event, after the event"? Oh, oh, oh. Wow. Something that, that people couldn't really see with "Vuelve a Arder," that I regret perhaps, uh, wasn't able to, you know, be projected, is that after we did that song "Vuelve a Arder," that recording, meaning, the anointing of God was evident. From the beginning to the end, it was an anointing that fell in that place where people didn't know the song, they didn't know it, but the anointing was so strong that they started to flow in the songs. It was something tremendous. And you know what happened? After we finished "Vuelve a Arder," I made the call because there were many unsaved people, and precisely I had some friends with whom I grew up together in school, and we were also little friends from church, and she had gone astray. And I said, "Look, I know this is a recording, meaning, it won't be in the recording because we cut it, but I would like to upload it so that people can see that after we did the song and everything, we continued to flow there." And I said, "I know it's a recording, but I know there are people here who need to accept Christ because God is calling them, they need to return to the fire." And I said, "Who wants Christ?" And about 20 people or more came forward. They started coming forward, they started coming forward. But when I saw my friend who had gone astray, who had told me a few days before that she wasn't going to the event because she was angry with God, that God had been unfair to her for something that she had, for something that had happened. Seeing her broken at the altar, I was, meaning, all the people who came forward and all that, it hit me hard. I said, "Wow, Lord." Meaning, besides this being an event to bless in terms of a song, this is also for salvation, which is the most important thing. And that day many people received Christ, many people were also restored, who were on the path but were far from the fire of the Holy Spirit, from their assignment as Christians. So that day was an unforgettable day, wasn't it? No, you have, if you have that little part there, you have to upload that video. Yes, because truly, many times we see, uh, recordings, prophetic activities, evangelistic activities, and even the evangelistic activity ends without convincing people to convert to the gospel. So, for that to happen in a recording, that's something very beautiful. You have to upload that. Now, Coral. After you record the songs, everything, and release the song, how did you realize that the song had an impact, that there was already an impact in your city, on social media? How, how did that reach you? Well, I realized it because, truly, I didn't have any expectations, as I said, I had already, uh, left it to the Lord. I said, "Lord, I want people to be blessed through this." Of course, as I told you, one always wants God to do something massive, to reach far, and all that, but this time my focus wasn't that. Truly, it was for souls to return to the fire, for people to accept Christ through the song. That was like my objective. So, when we released the song, I told the young people in my congregation, "I want you to make a video of your before and after." God gave me a generation that comes from shallowness, from homosexuality, from prostitution. Meaning, my young people, the majority came from there. So, I said, "I want you to make yours so that people can see how you returned to the fire." And that was crazy because we started uploading the little videos on TikTok, and everyone started to be impacted by those videos that the young people from my congregation started uploading. Wow. But, meaning, they see them now flowing, preaching, and whatever, but they don't imagine they have such a dark past. So I told them, "You have to upload that so that people can be edified." And that was crazy. So that's when it started, like on TikTok, people started saying, "Wow, look at this and that, it impacted me." And they also started making their own videos, and it was crazy. From then on, the song, everyone told me, "I, I heard 'Vuelve a Arder'," people from different countries started writing to me. I was like that, meaning, even now I still don't really believe it, I don't believe it. No, no. I listen to the song, and I listen to it as if other people sang it, truly. I still don't quite convince myself, and I prefer to stay that way. You know, I always ask the Holy Spirit, uh, like Javes, "Lord, enlarge my territory, but don't let my heart be corrupted." Meaning, I want you to keep me from any of this causing me to say, "Ah, the song and such." No. I try to have the Holy Spirit keep me, because that's another thing. After God gives you the promise, then you have to see how you act after God gives you the promise. Because there are people who God gives, gives them something, gives them a car, gives them a house, but and after that, there are people who corrupt themselves, as you said, corrupt their hearts because God processes you and changes you so that you can receive what he truly prepared, but it depends on you whether what he gave you remains. Amen. So, well, a very powerful story. Now, Coral, I would like you, if right now I put a young woman in front of you and told you, Coral, with three pieces of advice or three principles that you would give her, that person can achieve success in her life, both personal and spiritual. What would be those three pieces of advice you would give a young woman? Well, the first piece of advice is to have holiness and integrity before the presence of God, because truly, that has been lost quite a bit, in the Christian term, integrity and holiness have been lost quite a bit, which goes beyond what can be seen. People think that holiness is speaking in tongues, it's that people know that God uses you. Meaning, more than, as I said at the beginning, that God uses you, that you project something, it's that your life is integral when no one sees you. That's the first thing I advise a person, that you be integral when the lights go out behind the curtain, and that truly when Christ sees you, he says, "Wow, she is truly my daughter. She is doing well." We know we are imperfect, that we make mistakes, but trying to keep integrity and holiness in every step you take, truly, I say that's something that will lead you to achieve things you thought you would never achieve. The second piece of advice is to always understand that it was never about you, that what God is doing with you is not because of your abilities, your talent, your vocabulary, because I know many people who sing better, who have better vocabulary perhaps than us, who have more connections than us, who have, I don't know, more money than us. But that in the end is not everything. Meaning, it's not everything, for me it's nothing. Because without God, you can have everything else, without God you are nothing. And people may know you, the world may applaud you, but what good is it if the world applauds you if God doesn't know you? So, focus on the fact that you always remain humble before the presence of God, that you always keep your heart in the right position with the word. And the third piece of advice, to finish, I understand is that you always know how to discern the times, because there are times when we get confused, and we understand, for example, God's discernment that he gives you. Of course, in intimacy, everything I'm telling you, the same intimacy will give you everything, everything intimacy will give you, but discerning the times will prevent you from getting frustrated when things don't happen as you think. For example, when you say in times, you understand that you are going to an activity, and God may do something massive and it will be crazy, but when you understand that you are going to another place where God does the same thing, but not in the same way, you will discern God's time, do you understand? of when to release a song, of when to preach a message. Meaning, I don't know if I'm explaining myself well, but when you discern the times in the spiritual sense, you won't get frustrated. You will understand that God works under Kairos, not under Chronos. I understand, when you work under that, nothing will disturb you, nothing will move you, because that's the problem that in this time we have many young people who have risen, have grown, perhaps have humility, have holiness, but they are frustrated. Why? Because they are not. They think, "No, but God called me, God chose me." Yes, but you are not under God's Kairos. You have to wait for that time to come, and for that you have to discern it, and the Spirit itself will make you feel it. What is your favorite verse? Your favorite chapter of the Bible? Look, I have many, but the one that you identify with the most, because for example, I identify with 2 Corinthians 4:17. I have many, but truly my favorite is when Paul says that God tells Paul, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is perfected in your weakness." And truly, that has reached me, it has accompanied me from the beginning until now. The Holy Spirit always tells me, "My grace is sufficient." Don't, don't want to, you know? Because there are people who always want to achieve a perfection that is impossible. Yes. So, there are people too, because there are two branches. There are others who don't care about being holy, who just want to give and give and give, but there are others who then consider themselves superior, very holy, they become Pharisees. Exactly. And you have to be very careful with that. You have to rely on God's grace because his power is perfected in those that perhaps no one knows, but that God does know. Do you understand? But you will always glory in that weakness, meaning, I will glory, as Paul says, in my weaknesses. Meaning, it's so that the power and excellence always come from Christ, not from me. So, that has truly accompanied me from the beginning of my story until the end. What would today's Coral say to yesterday's Coral? Today's Coral would say to yesterday's Coral, "Be patient, don't despair, because God knows when he will give you what you have longed for so much." And yesterday's, what would she say to today's that she doesn't lose? Yesterday's would tell today's to never, uh, uh, lose that dependence on God, to always remain dependent on God's presence. Because many times when God is leading you, sometimes the system itself makes you lose your dependence on God. That's why many people now no longer pray, yes, they no longer seek intimacy, they no longer go, in the case of people who go to the mountain, they no longer go to the mountain, they no longer lock themselves in with God's presence because they feel they have already achieved everything, but when you lose that dependence on God, then what people see is a resounding gong. So I understand that if I lose my dependence on God, then truly, they will just see someone who shouts a lot, who vociferates a lot, stomps a lot, and runs a lot, and that's it. My God, this is tremendous. Coral, how can I find you on social media? Because I know there are people who will want to communicate with you too. I know there are people who will want to invite you to events, how can they communicate with your team, everything, because I have a lot of commitments, brother. Afterwards, they will be writing to me. She is the worshiper. How can they contact you? On Instagram and Facebook, my name is Coral Luz Ministry, and on YouTube, Coral la Luz. Like that. And I know many people who are watching me, I wanted to say this before we finish, many people who are watching me perhaps have taken for granted that God has forgotten them and what God said about them, but I want you to understand that heaven is betting on you. Don't give up. There are people watching me, I feel in my spirit that they are about to give up. Don't give up. Don't give up. Never think that God has forgotten you, that God has discarded you. Truly, that was a word the Lord gave me. He told me, there are people who think God has discarded them and that God has forgotten them, but no. This is the time when God is forming some Davids who are behind with sheep, but they will go to the palace. Coral, it was a privilege to be here, interviewing you. Amen. A pleasure, truly, Benancio. Thank you for coming all the way here. I know you came from very far, but it has been a blessing to me. Amen. So, may God bless you greatly, may God keep you, and I just have to tell you that this got serious. Oh.