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been in times when I'm like literally terrified and like dancing on stage. And I get down and I just feel my teeth pop. And I'm like, oh my God, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Pam.
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I can't sing, but welcome to the show, babies. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to your favorite podcast. This is Pillow Talk. I'm your host, Ryan Pannell. We're joined by our co-host today, Amber Emery, who was just on last week's episode with Kazumi. Great episode, great episode. And today is a very special episode. We're taking big steps right now with Pillow Talk. This is our first trans porn star, Emma Rose.
Hello. I must confess, our first DMs together, I think I did. You did. You did. I guess I think you, you like to feel my picks. And I did. I just got my comeback after it being deleted for like seven months. And, um, did you have to pay? Yeah, I paid. [ __ ] five thousand dollars. I paid four. So, um, thanks for the promo. And she liked to feel my picks. And, you know, I love my blonde hair, blue eyes. Excuse me. So now you don't like me anymore? We're friends. That's not what our stories showed the other day. We posted like three stories together and the girls were messaging him being like, have fun with Amber. Yeah, good. That's great. That's. I do it on purpose. And I, I, Emma Rose, and I thought, I, I think I said, you like, are you a porn star? Yeah. Yeah. There's no way that you do porn. Yeah. And I was like, I absolutely do because she looks like a sweetheart too. Yes. Yes. PornHub, Trans Angels, uh, on all, of course, all the trans porn sites. Lots on PornHub. Yes. Yeah. Hold on. Mind Geek Star. Do you do cosplay stuff too? Uh, I want to. I want to. I want to. It's just, it's so much fun. I wish you were staying longer. I know, I'm only here for the day. Wow. Who does that though? Okay. And then also had a scene yesterday. And, uh, science. No, no. Good for you. I am. Amber was getting [ __ ] on a boat yesterday. So anyways, Emma Rose and I was hitting on her guilty. And then I watched her TikToks, her Reels that she posted. And she made a joke about how she has a penis on one of her Reels. And I went, oh my God, it's a cute one. I like the term she-ness. I love that. Uh, then, then I, I went to look at her porn. And of course, she had a penis. No testicles. No balls. It's five inches actually because of the hormonal, it shrunk. I used to be like six and a half. And I used to like actually big balls. Um, so I had a nice dick. Okay. And then, so now it's so, it's, it's shrunk and it's gone. I got neutered. So I was always called castrated. I got castrated. It was in Detroit.
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Let me have them on table. But, um, I couldn't fly with them. So is that a lot? You can't fly with balls? It's like biohazard. Wave. Yeah. I flushed them down into like a goldfish. But anyways, imagine, imagine you're laying down and they take this big ass needle of Lidocaine and they go in each ball. Are you asleep or awake? I'm awake. Usually they put you to sleep. But I was like, it's 45 minutes. You can literally feel the cord is being pulled. Leave. Uh, I feel like I was a cheapo and I was like, just cut them out. 45 minutes to get your balls removed. Uh, not in porn, but for a lot of trans girls, yes. How come? Uh, because it stops the testosterone. Yeah. So I don't have to take testosterone blockers. I take progesterone, estrogen. I take a testosterone cream to stop atrophy. So my dick doesn't shrink even more. Um, and also it's like important. Your dick would shrink. Yeah. It starts shrinking because your tissues die, man. Like it, like just gets little. And I'm like, well, so now it's like, so to get hard after so much estrogen, is there an issue with that? Um, usually for most trans girls, it is. Hard for me, I'm just a horny [ __ ] I don't know why. Um, with my progesterone, it's released during your, um, your period when you're pregnant. So I'm like, I'm always horny. Okay. Like 24/7. And then I take Cialis and then Viagra as well. Both. Uh, I think Cialis every day. And then I take back for scenes every day. I had one yesterday. Good for the blood flow. It is good for the blood flow. The sauce. I need to use. I'm using this new like, the pump thingy because it helps. Yeah. So it's good because it forces the blood in your dick. So it's easier to get erections. Because a lot of times guys, right before, it sucks. You pump your penis. No, I, I do it like, like I should do it every day. But I do like once a week because it just helps with the blood flow and keeping. I would just, yeah. Contraption. I think you could use a little dick pump. Good to know. They can make a five-inch dick. Maybe you should use it. Literally, it makes your five. Eventually, you can make it nine inches. Like in the tubes, it's that like, it's that big. Oh, yeah. Five to nine. Yeah. Nine to five. Wow. That's pretty good.
So how did you, uh, get into porn? So I was a shipper for, uh, I think five years. I transitioned when I was 21. I'm 26. Congratulations. Thank you. I, um, used to be a go-go boy. And then as I transitioned. So you had a whole other life as a guy? Oh, yeah. For sure. Uh, before 21. And then, um, I was shipping. I was Googling. I transitioned. And then I started dancing at strip clubs. I like Chan strip clubs. But then as I got more possible, I started dancing at straight strip clubs. And I just used duct tape. And nobody knew. And the managers didn't know after a long period of time. Yeah. I imagine it's just aching. And so I would wear that and a really chappy outfit that would be really hard to take off. So if people touched me, that they wouldn't tell me what I didn't have a [ __ ]. Has there ever been an altercation where they did? There was a, uh, there's been times when I'm like literally terrified and like dancing on stage. And I get down and I just feel my teeth pop. And I'm like, oh my God. And I was in this just very like, I had panties on still, but like, it was definitely more bulgy. And imagine like when you duct tape, you gotta go on like your mound around the penis. And it just popped. And you can't put it back because you're sweating. So I like literally like I just run off the stage. I'm like, grab my [ __ ]. I'm supposed to like pay the people. And I was like, [ __ ] no, I'm [ __ ] leaving. And I never went again. Sorry, lookers.
I'll tell you something that happened to me and I'd like to hear your opinion. Okay. Okay. So when I was in Barcelona in 2012, I went to a place called Baghdad. It's an interactive sex show. Okay. The idea is it's a circular stage. You guys have been to sexuals before? Yeah. Where the stage spins. This one was more sexual though. They actually bring guests on. Blow jobs on stage. You actually [ __ ] on stage. And almost everyone in the audience gets a turn as long as they're happy to do so. Yeah. Grand finale. They say they pull out a chair and they say, 10-minute [ __ ]. And he takes that. You know, put my hand up. Six hours. I just saw a bunch of people do it. It's like, put me in a chair. And then this girl with lots of tits comes out. And she goes on her knees. And with a condom, you know, she gives me a 10-minute [ __ ]. True story. You lasted 10 minutes. Why are you always surprised? Yes. I lost it. 10 minutes. To be honest, I was only half-hearted. I was very nervous. Through a condom in front of 20 people. You know, I was 12 years old. I love crowds though. Literally, the more people, the hotter. Well, so then they sent me back down. And then a guy comes out with the drum thing and goes, drum roll. And then the girl that just gave me a 10-minute blow job rips track pants off. And it was a transgender. And then she goes, you're gay. And then everyone dies laughing. And then on the way out, all the security are like, don't tell anyone about the finale. We fool everyone once every night. And at the time, well, what year? I was very offended that I got, I had like that. Yeah. This was in 2012. Okay. That's very 2012. Yeah. It's like nowadays that would not happen. How do you feel about that? Uh, I feel like, what, one, that's a true story. Yeah. I wouldn't. I feel like at the, at the beginning of my transition, I would definitely not tell people because I was like, I'm a real woman. And I'm like, I would never ever do that to somebody and like lie to them or took them. But, um, I feel like being a trans woman doesn't make you gay. But also, I'm like, people say, and I identify as literally everything now. So I feel like it's really, there's a girl to whatever you say. There's a girl in Toronto going around and she's giving, she gives blow jobs in bathrooms too, right? All the King Street guys. And two of my very close friends, two of my very close friends. She's very pretty. They got blow jobs from her. But she pretends she's a girl. Yeah. And gives the [ __ ] and then afterwards, she laughs about it and tells people. Like, that's horrible. That's how you get killed. First of all, it's really that. So you do that too? Honestly, there is one. I think that's. I love trans women. That's kind of messed up. Yeah. That is [ __ ] up. Yeah. One time, I, I was like a year and a half into my transition. And I didn't tell him. I remember like this guy like had me against the wall like choking the [ __ ] out of me. Like when I was like, this is not. So you used to trick people too? I used to. But honestly, I feel like I feel like you should definitely grow out of that way early. Because I'm like, either if you're not sucking my dick, yeah, I'm like, if you're not sucking my dick, uh, I don't want to [ __ ] you. True that.
And do a lot of straight guys have sex with you? Yeah. Yeah. I like, don't really get rejected all that often. But I remember I think, um, a lot of, I've had guys when I tell them in public and they're around their friends. And then usually they're just like, oh, no, it's not my thing. But you leave them by themselves. They're just like, [ __ ] oh, wow. Okay. Like I wanna like, oh, I'm high. And then everything's just like, and then other things happen. I've heard that a lot of celebrities like that. Yes. That's true, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of stuff is like, so many of these are displayed. Yeah. [ __ ] comes so easy now. They want a penis. Yeah. Do you feel like you suck dick better than a girl? Uh, yeah. Uh, uh, well, hard. It's a position. I feel like I just like sucking dick and I like eating [ __ ]. So are you bisexual? Yeah. I'm fully bisexual. Okay. That's why I like, literally my fingernails right here. Do you have a lot of threesomes and stuff? There, Matt? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I love threesomes. And then, uh, girl, girl. And then I, I've never had a threesome with another guy with him though. I have. Well, not with your boyfriend. Wow. So have you had sex with a celebrity? I have. Who? I can't believe. I can't say. That's the one thing. Whisper it in my ear. Tiger? No, no, no, no, no, no. Country singer and a politician. A politician. Big one. Uh, it's not in DC. He's not in DC though. But I don't kiss and tell. Like that's how I, I lose. Wow. Tell us more. What else do we not know? Uh, just the amount of people who do have like, they just like trans girls. And like so many people are out and about and you would never know. Like, and I think that's the biggest thing. Like on TikTok, so many guys like, oh, you should tell on your first date. I'm like, just because like I flirt with someone or if at the bar, I like drinking a drink, I'm not gonna tell them because I'm like, I don't want to [ __ ] them. I just want their money. You know what I mean?
So, break down your percentage of having sex with straight guys, gay guys, and girls. Okay. Uh, uh, well, you guys don't like girls. So it's like, you know, you have to [ __ ] straight guys. Yeah. Like, like, well, the only time is in porn. I've, I've [ __ ] some straight for pay. Like that. Because of the whole RuPaul thing. Uh, what, what? Say it again. Because gay people love it. Yeah. RuPaul. Oh, yeah. I don't watch it. They like Dragon. No, I always try to get gay guys to [ __ ] me. It's like a weird thing. As soon as I get attracted to you, it makes sense. They're just like, um, you're a girl. They're like, I don't like that. So with, so gays are out. Straight guys should be out. Straight guys are in. But they're in. Yeah. And then, uh, a lot of women actually. I feel that women are actually like, you know what? If I'm a girl, I'm [ __ ] a trans girl with a dick. Yeah. They're honestly women. Women's just women. Like the worst chasers. Yeah. Great. They, they're just like, oh my God. I saw you spitting games backstage. I saw you hitting on her. Sure.
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Fantasy. I was feeling her ass and stuff. Yeah. She was feeling my ass. Emma, I do have OnlyFans, right? And what do you do on that? I just do everything. I do girls, guys, solos. Um, what's your favorite? Oh my God, it's honestly really hard to to choose. I feel like I like [ __ ] guys like with content. But for porn, you want to say condoms. Porn, like studio shoots. I love shooting with women. Okay. Because it's not harder to film. No, like a girl going down on a girl. Like you have to go like sew in there. I agree. Yeah. The face. He's filming a [ __ ]. Yeah. Especially with a guy. Like you have so much room. Producer Terry. Honestly, I just hate. I hate. I love deep throating, but I hate gagging on a dick. Like I just hate the sound. I'm like, and guys love that [ __ ]. It's so gross. Uh, I hate it. But I mean, for a film, I let it like slobber up and all that [ __ ]. But I don't like that. I have. Okay. What's up with this? Should I start? Sushi is good for bottoming though. That's why. Because if you're about to like bottom, the rice, everything, it's good for your digestive system. So you don't [ __ ] on somebody. Because that's not a good thing. I've only. No, I've only shot on two guys on accident when I'm getting [ __ ] because besides that, it's like, it's so embarrassing. I usually douche. Is the whole prepping process like fiber? You do like an animal. Yeah. And then also if you eat a lot of fiber, you're not, you won't [ __ ] on somebody. If you buy room. Well, that's pro tip. Because everyone wants the bottom of home. We're learning today. Producer Terry, do you hear that? Very nice. I want to peg producer Terry one day. What do you guys do? All of sanitary. Hey, you're just one sexual now. Yeah. No. Oh, really? No, I've never heard anything in your ass. Lovely girl that I'm seeing, Kaylee Gunner. Do you know her? Porn star. Uh, yes. Yeah. Kaylee Gunner. We're kind of, you know, seeing each other. And she was the first to eat my ass. Oh. And I, I love it. She told me to how to do it, what to do. And you know, I did the whole leg up on the tub. And you know, and then she's like, she's giving me a blow job. And she goes, legs up, Brian. Legs up. I thought it was like the vacuum was going under you. And she's like, no, no, above your head. So I'm up like this, right? And then she just starts going deeper and deeper. And I was like, oh, as long as they're hygienic. Because I just love manly men. I like hair. I like, like, I hate hair. I like, like, I don't know. It sounds so bad. I like smell, like, like a manly smell, like, like a whiskey. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's like I like men to be like oiled up baby seals. Yeah. Okay. Stop trying to like name drop here. I have my boyfriend left. I do want to [ __ ] you. That's my boy. We can share them. Oh, you get the frog in the back. Okay. We're gonna go on. So well, very nice.
So what else don't we know? Tell the world. What, what the world should know? Oh God, there's like so many. I'm still getting over the balls being flashed. Yeah. She flushed them down. I flushed them down the toilet. Like literally. I wish I had the picture. On your hands. I would just show you how they're just like sitting there on the on the table. Um, only if they were powder. She started a dead guy once. Oh my God. True story. Coolest thing ever. I think, um, so she was telling me in the bathroom that I was like, so when you come, does anything come out? Oh, she says a little. So drippy drop does. But where does it come from? The prostate. So biology lesson. So there's semen and sperm. And then I think the semen is the clear part. The sperm is from your balls, which is what gives you pregnant. The white part. But when you cut out the like the white part, the balls, you just shoot clear. So people who have a vasectomy, think I think they only shoot clear, like come shots. Does it feel different? Oh my God, it feels so much better. You don't have balls. I'll get my balls. It's been men. Because instead of just like, I just feel it in like my face. I feel everywhere. It just feels like so intense and just like a body. Like it must be nice also for riding a bicycle. There's just nothing. It just like if you hit it, it doesn't hurt. Yeah. You know, you could go play as a hockey goalie. No jockstraps. To the. No balls. The holiday. Therefore, anyways, kids, but you can. I still just come a lot. Like if I add like a lot, just because it kind of just oozes out. Like drools. Just come. Like just clear splooge. Okay. And big announcement. S naturally from my hormones. Yeah. Yeah. Can I pull them out? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. So yeah, because I used to have really big bigger titties. But I was 25 pounds. Your nipples are very similar to mine. Thank you. They're from the progesterone, right? Yeah. They grew. So they're going to be about that size. Hopefully. Yeah. I'm 700. Oh, yeah. I'm five years. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm still gonna do them again. Probably. The nipples were stretching. They would be so itchy. Like when you're starting like budding, getting new tits. And it would like spiral around. So as like the areola is getting bigger and bigger. Like they grew that fast. Yeah. It grew up. And it would hurt. I would literally have to like use like a rolling pin to like break up the breast tissue because it was growing. And so tired and so painful. So you have the exact same body as Caitlyn Jenner? Uh, oh God, no. Not Caitlyn Jenner. [ __ ] up. [Laughter] They killed somebody. They would have ran somebody over. Oh, yeah, you're right. That did happen. Yeah. It's like the worst. She's the worst. Like you guys don't look at her as you're a God. No, no, no. Like we. Who's your leader? RuPaul. No. God, no. I'm gonna say another bad word. Uh, I am. So who's your trans leader? Uh, honestly, I don't really have one. Like us. To be honest. Call me, uh, ignorant. Yeah. We all think Caitlyn Jenner's your spokesperson. No. Absolutely not. Please do not think that. That's like, maybe I don't know. That's a conservative. So Caitlyn Jenner still has a penis? Uh, yes. Yeah. I don't even. Yeah. I think so. I don't know. I don't know about the ball thing. But, um,
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Which is a lesbian woman. Oh, yeah. She's lesbian. Lesbian woman. So still likes girls, but yeah, wants to be a woman. Yeah. Yeah. She really did transition like when she was already way over there. Yeah. It's, I feel like it's really hard. Um, to just transition late. I, um, when I was a kid, I always like sawing myself. I was like, oh, why we're a business woman, like thinking about the future. And I have asked like other like gay like guys of my age and they're like, no, I don't think about that. So I didn't even really meet my first trans person until I was, uh, 18. And I grew up country. I grew up on a farm. My parents are southern [ __ ]. And literally, I'm just like my other parents. Yeah. I was, I was an F, I was a secretary in FFA and cattle, everything. Little Wranglers and cowboy boots. But, um, well, she was telling me too that her dad is her number one supporter. He's my best friend. I love him. Oh, that's great. Yeah. And, and your dad knows, of course. Yeah. Because Kazumi, her parents actually have no clue. Oh, yeah. Crazy. Literally talked stuff. Yeah. She's big time. Yeah. I talked to my dad about things. I'm like, oh my God, I just shot with this girl today. And he's like, oh, that's cool. Have you shopped with like any of the Johnny Sins or Karen Lee's? Uh, for guy wise, uh, I shot with Angela White. That's great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She, she literally tossing around like a rag doll. And she's amazing. Yeah. Like she, I [ __ ] her everything. She gave me a body slide with her titties like falling down the side of my body. It was for Brazzers. Um, represent. Um, for guys, um, I'm trying to think of any big guys that I shopped for porn. No, I don't think so. I know like so many, uh, so many straight porn stars are in my DMs because they want to [ __ ] me. But they can't do it on camera because it'll ruin their career.
Let me ask you a question. I have a very close lady friend and she went through her boyfriend's search history. Yeah. And she saw that he is obsessed with trans porn. Oh my God. Most men are. It's like the fifth like biggest thing on PornHub. So what does that mean? Uh, I just think that guy is like something that's a little different. They, they like women because trans women are women. Okay. But sometimes just adding a dick, it's just kind of like, it's hot. There's a thing like, so maybe it's, it's guys who do so well with. They're kind of bored. Yeah. I feel like maybe like they're not even bored. They just like variety. Okay. Because in the 70s, because would you rather see a sexy trans girl [ __ ] a chick or do you want to see a guy [ __ ] a chick? Yep. I'd go with the trans girl. But two hot girls, titties, just like it's sexy. I'm sold. That makes sense, bro. Yeah. It's a lot of stuff. You have to see like a hairy [ __ ] and like the over and over. You just see a sexy ass [ __ ] dick. Two chicks. It's hot. True that.
So when you're doing a shoot for like Brazzers, how big is the production? Like how many people are there usually? Oh, it's big. It's like the most I've had. Usually it's like, is it Brazzers or Brazzers? Did I say that wrong? Yeah. Brazzers. Um, I think the most I've had is three cameras. Transfixed, which is for adult time. They have like the big huge cameras as well. They're big productions. Have you done VR porn? Yes. I literally put it on one time and I was like watching like pretty much me [ __ ] myself. But I think that it's different. Like I feel like if you're doing anal, because since like doing a like a [ __ ] is like so much easier with a smaller dick. When you do anal, you having a small dick with anal, so hard. Especially with porn. I need to do more anal. I feel like I don't do it enough. I love anal. So nice. Especially. I love topping too. Amber, I have a perfect dick for anal. I'm talking to like, it's like it's like actually like when I don't like [ __ ] virgins though. If the guy's the first time, I'm like, no, I'm not [ __ ] you. An experienced hall is a good idea. You haven't taken a virginity? Oh, I have. It's like a mini. It's my favorite. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. It was a Slayer in high school. Taking him down one by one. You know what I'm gonna guess right now. Who has more bodies? Ah, let's see. Her on camera counts, right? Yeah. Yeah. So she does. I'm gonna go 120. Babe, I don't [ __ ] count. No, you have 120 bodies. How would I know? How much did you say? You know, oh, you don't count. Oh, I thought you meant. Okay. And 220. Hi. But do you actually keep track? Oh, no. I just know. Yeah. I used to be a so literally before before I transition. So, uh, when I was before my transition, I, I was a bathhouse junkie pretty much. Where I was just going bathhouses and taking. What do you think? Were you just? Everyone said, you know, when everyone go and you [ __ ] there and like, like, uh, so before I don't do that anymore. These stores. I've never been invited to these places. Yeah. I'm sorry. Oasis sex club. Oh, I heard about that. Big pool, right? Yeah. For a bathroom. I think that I took 27 dicks and like literally like six hours. Before I, I like coughed and my [ __ ] hurt. That was when I was 19. Oh, that was awesome. Have you ever gotten like a hernia or something? Luckily, like the only time that I've been able to, uh, fist myself was when I was on Molly. Yeah. I can't do it like just on off rep. Bam. But like, usually if you like stretch it up. Oh, God. Yeah. But usually if it's like a girl, like a lot of girls have like small hands. It's like they can do it much easier. If it's a guy with a big handle. Like, oh, no. But I've been DP'd. Does it feel good? Uh, do you like it? Or is it good in the moment? You've been DP'd? Two dicks in the ass. Oh, okay. Yeah. Understood. It's gotta see. They gotta set. The one lays this way. The other one lays the other way. And I just like. Can you? I don't understand. Okay. So if there's, so the guy's linking this. Except another guy's like this. This is the same way. Wow. And then that's tough for this guy. What? Wow. Yeah. Okay. We have to cut. What are we at for time? Okay. Perfect. Okay. Well, we're done with the studio. 30 minutes is perfect. That was a great episode. Yeah. Yeah. Amber Emery was our co-host. Amber X Emery on Instagram. OnlyFans superstar. Starting to get into porn. I love it. This was Emma Rose. Do not cancel Ryan. Thank you. More Amber. Oh, shut the [ __ ] up. I'm your host, Ryan Panel. This is Pillow Talk. We'll see you next Tuesday.
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