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Uh, my quick apologies that we were started a little bit late today. Um, we had a couple of people uh, flake, and uh, so last-minute flakes. So you know how it is. Anyways, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location—so where you're from—and occupation. Go ahead.

My name is Miss Exquisite. I'm 28 years old. I'm from Wilmington, Delaware, but currently in North Folk, Virginia. Okay, and I'm a plus-size model and also an influencer. All right. Welcome.

My name is Madison. I'm from San Diego, California. I'm 19 years old. I work on the Whatever podcast and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College.

Hi, my name is The Gobler. I'm from upstate New York, um, and I'm 30 years old, and that's about it. Oh, oh, I'm an adult film star. Sorry, got that part. All right, welcome.

Uh, hi, I'm Annie Charlotte. I'm from London, um, and I'm an OnlyFans model with two vaginas. Okay. Uh, age first. Oh yeah, why do I have to say that online? I like to keep it a secret. I'm joking. I'm 25. So you have two—two uh, two—two vaginas? What—what is the—is there medical—Oh, hold on. We'll come back to that.

Donated $200. Thank you, Andrew. You are my favorite guest. Any of you ladies with tainted morals, buckle up. My dude brings the thunder. Maddie's top dog at the table. Top dog Maddie at the table. All right. Hey, Brandon Lee, thank you for your patronage. Thank you for the TTS, man, very much appreciated. Um, yeah, Brandon. Oh, do you—yeah, do you want to say anything to the—since it was for me? Sorry. Oh, hold on. Well, Fat Bastard donated $200. Get in my belly. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. CH—Uh, thank you. You—thank you, Pat Bastard. That's my favorite movie. Awesome powers. Awesome powers. Okay, thank you. Um, did you want to respond to—to Brandon? No, I was just going to say thanks, Brandon. It's a—all right. There you go. Support the show. Yeah. Um, you were saying, is there a medical term for your condition? Uterus didelphys. Okay. So—so is that like—but are there two canals? You got two canals? I have two. So it's one vagina, like whole, and like splits in half. So there's like two vaginas. Sorry, I don't know why I'm like—okay, I'm been nervous here. Two vaginas, two cervixes, and two uteruses. So I have two like fully functioning like reproductive systems. But yeah, two halves don't make a whole. In my respect, it's like two halves of a vagina, so it makes two—I vaginas. Interesting. And so could you have two pregnancies at different times, different daddies? Well, at the same time, right? So I could have like—but they could have like start at different times. I—oh, okay. I see. Interesting. Yeah, and think you could be eight months pregnant and then one month pregnant. I don't think I'm allowed to get to eight months pregnant because of like this, cuz they're obviously half the size of like a normal one. Oh, I can like only carry them to a certain amount of terms, and I'll probably have to have them in like—oh, sorry—an incubator baby. But like, I could have like a one-month and then like a three-month pregnancy. Yeah, probably. I could—that be surgically altered into one reproductive system? Yes. Um, I found out when I was 16, so I was like, I want this gone. Like, I want to be like a normal 16-year-old and have one vagina, please and thank you. Um, and he was like, I could—it's very possible, but I could damage you in the process. Not in the sense of like he's going to hurt me or anything, but it's more like science will get so advanced by the time I want to have kids. When I was 16, he was like, there's no point; it would just be like a waste because there's probably loads of things that could be in place to help you. Interesting. And I'm—I'm jumping the gun a little bit on this question, cuz we're a little bit later on, we ask about relationship status. You currently have two boyfriends? Is that correct? Yes. I currently have two boyfriends. And what you told us in your pre-show notes was one boyfriend for—one boyfriend each respective—yeah, so one for the left and one for the right. Do they like—how do you decide which one gets which? Well, I met the first one first, and he chose the left because it's tighter. Oh, he—he gets dibs? Yeah. Well, I met him fast. You—yeah. Well, I also don't know. But what would happen if like the other boyfriend accidentally—accidentally put it in the—so it's—it was a conversation, cuz obviously my—like when I met my psycho boyfriend, he was all like—it all happened in like a—he was just like—like, oh, for some reason, every guy I've ever met always wants to own one. Don't ask me why; it's a thing that they want to do. And he was like, oh, I want the—the left one. I was like, oh, I can't—I use that one for work. That one's like—a go-go. But he—you ultimately allowed him to have the—the right one. Oh, wait. So like, one has the left and one has the right, but they don't know about each other having either access to either? A—well, it's not cheating. They're different—they will know that, but like they don't—they don't—it's not cheating. Cuz it's the same—it's a different hole, right? Facts. Facts. It's the same—but it's the same vagina. No, it's not. It's two different vaginas. One vagina, two different—I got to ask: are there medical conditions where there's men who have two penises? Yes. That is a guy—um, who has two dicks. You're trying to set something up. Oh, no, I'm just curious. Oh, my go—I'm just—there should be like a dating—this is a new one to me. That's—guys who have two dicks. Vag—his dicks though wouldn't fit inside my vaginas because his are on top of each other, and mine are like a shotgun. Does that make sense? Makes sense. We have—we'd have to like scissor each other. Wait, so the two—the two boyfriends, they don't know about each other? Well, not yet. They might now. They might now. Yeah. Um, okay. I only—new—it's just like—I just—G—how long have you been dating these two guys? Uh, only like a few months. I was just giv—given it a go, cuz I had like this whole article come out about me like the beginning of last year, and they—was it the New York Post? I don't—I don't know. It was just that I used one for work and one for pleasure, and my boyfriend was like—well, pissed off, so he broke up with me, and then people were—then interested in me because I had to—so then I found two people who I started seeing, and then led to being my boyfriends, but I didn't really want to be in an open relationship, so I decided to be in two closed ones. Wait, do you actually like—is this—um, you said it's—I mean, not to get graphic here, but like, is this true? Yes. Like, you're not just saying this just for—no, cuz a lot of people make up these stories. Oh, I've got this interesting situation. I can show you a picture of—of my two vaginas if you want. I actually have a picture—like, I can show you—I can't—yeah, we can't show them. Uh, okay. Maybe if—tell you what, while you get up at some point during the show, I will go back, and you'll show me, and then I will—I will come back to the table and tell the—the viewers if it's true. That I also have a YouTube video, but I had like—I've been in YouTube videos about it, but just want to—what's that saying? Trust but verify. Yeah. The amount of things I have to put inside and—str—myself out to prove this, it's like—I don't think I'd be lying. I promise. I'm out of this conversation. Excuse me. Okay. Uh, all right. What about you? What's—tell us—yeah. My name is Crow. I am 22. I am from South Dakota, and I'm actually a car salesman. Okay, welcome.

I am Malik. I'm 24. I am a full-time Twitch streamer, and I'm from the Appalachian Mountains. That—uh, what state? Because it spreads a couple different—in the middle. I don't publicly state my state online, just due to different stalker situations. The Appalachian—isn't that like a pretty poverty-stricken area? Yeah. Okay. I—I live with a bunch of hillbillies. Oh, all right. There you go. All right. What about you? Uh, I'm Alexis Wilkins. I'm 25. I'm a political commentator. Um, I have my show, Between the Headlines, over on Rumble, and I'm a country music artist. Oh, nice. Welcome. Uh, do you—uh, you play guitar? I do. Oh, we should have—wait, I might have a guitar up—up in the—can—can we hear a little—little singing? Uh, all of my stuff is online. Oh, okay. All right. Find—all my stuff is under my name, Alexis Wilkins. We have an auto-tune in the studio? Oh, gosh, I—me—okay. Okay. All right. Just, you know—uh, Andrew, what about you? I could just play too, but—uh, you play guitar? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Uh, my name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible. I'm a political satirist, a political commentator, and um, a blood sport debater. Okay, welcome, everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, poly—whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been single, and what's the longest relationship that you've ever been in? Starting with you. Go ahead.

I'm currently single. Um, I have been single for five years. Longest uh, relationship—my longest relationship was four years. All right, got it. Single for five, longest for four. Madison, what about you? I'm currently in a relationship. My current relationship is my longest.

Fat Bastard donated $200. Get in my belly. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. CH. It's baby back ribs. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Fat Bastard, for the—again. Um, Madison, would—um, yeah, current relationship, longest relationship—it's a year and a half. All right, sweet. What about you? U—me? I'm single. I've been single for two years now, and the longest relationship I had was seven years. S—s years. Got it. What about you? Well—well, you kind of told us, but two—probably soon to be broken up with because of this podcast, but um, yeah, no relationship. They've only been—I've only been with them—well, with one of them for like four months and the other like two. Um, and before that I had one boyfriend, but then before that I was completely single, and I was single for 20—three years. How long—how long was it? Well, so what's your longest relationship? Um, I'd say six months. Six months. Okay, learning it. All right. Um, and wait—uh, just going back to you really quick, so you've been in a relationship for two years, right? No, I've been single for—years. Single for two. Sorry. Your longest relationship was seven years. Consider like a sub—a relationship. I don't—because they're like—what's like a—I—so yeah, I have that, but he's not—are you—dominatrix? Fin—talk about—he—I'm his master. Oh, master-slave. Yeah. So—well, I don't call him a slave; I call him my b-boy. B-boy. [redacted] boy. [redacted] boy. Yeah. So what is a [redacted] boy? A [redacted] boy—he does whatever I say. Like—whatever you say? Yeah. He makes videos with me; he gives me money, like—whatever I need. Did they just give you—sorry. No, go ahead. Goad. Do they just give you like money, like you'd be like, give me a hundred bucks, and he's like, yeah? Yeah. Literally. I say, let me spit—I like—let me spit in your mouth. He's like, okay. Let me—you know—whatever he lets me do it. Huh? Yeah. Uh, but he's not my boyfriend. Wait, so like—what about—okay, if you were like, I want you to be a leg stand for me, so while you're sitting and you just like kick your legs up on his back, he would—he would do that? Yes. He would crawl on the floor from outside to inside. He crawls. He'll do whatever I—yes. If I wanted to—put—yeah. Yes, crawl. He'll crawl on the floor to me. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, but that's it. That's all. How long have you been connected to him? For about six—six months now. Oh, six—seven months. Yeah. And he pays you money for this, right? Or—yeah, he gives me money, whatever I want. He gives me—whatever—does he do errands for you? Um, no, I haven't used them for that yet. Oh—well, I mean, sometimes he'll help, like, you know, hold my camera if I need him to—say if I want to make new content, you know, he'll let me use his house and stuff like that, or he'll let me use him for content stuff like that. Wait, so he—he'll hold the camera, and cuz you say you do adult content, so—but are you shooting content with him? And—but does he ever hold the camera for you when you're shooting content with another man? Yeah. In his room. In his bed. In—this is like a cuck. He's a cuck, too. I mean, he's not my boyfriend, so he can't be—how is he a cuck? He's not mine. Well, okay, he's not my man; he's my—he's a—bo—he's nothing. He's like my [redacted] boy. Like, he's—is it like—guy—no. Okay. Just—check—I was just—CU—I mean, I wouldn't mind guys—y'all can come—I love—pig—any of that, you know, I'm down with it. I will—whoop your ass. I would do whatever you need me to do to make you feel like you're not [redacted]. And you said your name's The Gobler? DU—two ways. Wait, just—just do you ever reveal like—do you have like a normal first name, like a government name? Yeah, but I'm not going to tell them because my real life—I'm a nurse. So you know, if I tell any of those things, then people—some—like in the beginning, they were telling me—in the beginning, they were telling me like, oh, I'm going to get you fired. I'm going to get—call the N—nursing board. They were going to try to basically make me lose my vanilla lifestyle because of what I do. And I understand that because when you professionally work for a nursing home, like if you are in their facility, it says you can't do certain things online. So me being a basically an agency nurse, I'm not through your facility; I'm my own entity. I come through many different places. Wig off, no makeup, glasses on—Clark Kent type of thing. Nobody knows. And so you're an RN? OPN? Okay. Yeah. I went to school; I got education. So you are trade, but you know—so you are single, but you have a [redacted] boy? Yeah. A [redacted] boy who—CRA—he crawls. I mean, that's not his only—I mean, he's more so like a dumpster. So I could spit—say if I was—gster—dumpster—dumpster—whatever you want to call him—dumpster—comster—like a—like a—you live with them? You live with him? I got—oh my God. No, I was just curious cuz you said you shoot content. Yeah, but that—mean that's at his place? Yeah. Wait, question. So do you shoot—Mike Davis donated $200. Brian, I won't let the disrespect slide no more. Talking how I work at BK pod wasn't no numbers until I came in with the smoke. One if you agree. CH. I might take a flight down to give you a whooping. A whooping. A whooping. Yo, Mike Davis, first off, I'm very clear that you—it's not that you—you own multiple chains of—you are an—you are a proprietor; you are an entrepreneur. That's Mike Davis, everybody. That is Mike Davis. He—look, he's—he's behind the counter there because he's one of these CEO types, owner types that wants to be on the front line, you know, slanging burgers. So Mike Davis, listen, man, the invite—yo, you're—you're welcome. Welcome, brother. You're welcome to come anytime. Um, wait, so you're—your guy that you're seeing—okay, he will be—oh, sorry, you're not seeing—but who's your b-boy? Uh-huh. My b-boy—he will let you shoot content at his house, and then when it's like a—a—a mountain of spit—I can take it, and it's—let's not talk about the spit, but yeah, but um, that's why I mean a comster—that's [redacted] disgusting. Oh, [redacted]. I mean, he loves it, but like—do—so do you shoot scenes with other men? Yes. In his bed. In his bed while he holds my camera and films me. But he's not my—his girlfriend? Does he—but well, it's kind—so he sleeps in the bed after you have sex in his bed with another man in his bed? Is that—he—the sheets—unless I tell him he could wash the sheets. I love—F—I have a question. Is it okay if I answer—is it okay if I ask a question? Yeah. Is he like attracted to that? I just say he likes—he likes—he loves it. Okay. Good times. Good times. Um, what about you? Or—oh, you already told us. Sorry, you already told us your relationship status. What about you? And—or did you have a question for her? Or you already asked? Okay. Go ahead. So I am currently talking to somebody, and my longest relationship was two years. Currently talking—you're in a talking stage? Yes. Yes. How long have you been in that? A week. Oh, one week. Yeah. Okay. Are there multiple talking stages or just one? Just—just one. Just the one. Okay. Uh, how did you guys meet? Tinder. So you met a week ago? Well, you knew each other for longer? Or no? We—we might have—how many dates have you been on? Two. Two. Okay. All right. Talking stage. All right. What about you? Uh, so my longest relationship was two years. I am currently single and have been single since then. That was my only relationship. Um, and I'm single not because I'm whoring around because I'm just focused on work. Uh, like I said earlier, I do Twitch full-time, and I'm also doing real estate, so that kind of takes up all my time. Okay, cool. And so you've been single for two years? That's correct. I've been single for four years. Oh, four. Oh my God. Sorry, guys, I don't listen. The relationship was two years long. The relationship was two years long. Okay. I mixed those up. Um, what about you? Uh, I am in a relationship, and I have been for a year. All right, cool. Andrew, what about you? Married. Have been for 100 years. 100 years. He's a vampire, folks. Uh, all right. Or—that the vampire was last episode, I think. Um, okay, cool. Let me do one chat here. Uh, this one unfortunately—hey, our—we bumped the threshold for today's episode. Uh, so sorry. I know you wanted—I know you wanted this to come through as uh, a TTS. I'll read it. [redacted] it. My rfle copter goes—donated. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Um, yeah, we did bump the uh, triggers uh, for today, but thank you, man. Appreciate it. Uh, yeah, there it is. Okay, cool. So one thing I'd like to start off with—good jumping off—actually, before I do that—going around the table—um, are your parents still together? No. No. My mom is—is deceased. Sorry. No. No. Um, divorced and remarried, both of them. Okay. No. Yes. Okay. Yes. All right. And yes for me. Okay. So jumping off point here, I like to start with people who disagree with me or the show. Maybe you've seen a clip of myself, maybe you've seen a clip of Andrew here who's been on the show a couple of times. He—uh, so does anybody dis—disagree with anything that you've seen? That's a good place to start, and then uh, we'll get into some of the pre-show notes that you guys provided. Anything? Not at this moment. No. Any—Madison, this is your chance. Madison—no, this is your chance. Anything? Okay. The moment—thing you got to like say it, and I'll get annoyed at you. Yeah, that's fine. We can do that, too. But if—yeah, just trigger me right now. No, it's—it's just—sometimes people watch the show, they come on, they disagree. So—okay, cool. So what we're going to do first, actually, is I want to react to a video. Nick, it's going to be our—the big video—the uh, man on the street video. We're going to react to—actually, we should all wait—how many girls here do—of—three? We might actually want to redo the Sha Evans one because that was kind of related, and we only had—maybe—we'll see. Let me ask the chat. Chat, should we uh, ask this panel about the Sha Evans breaking up with his uh, P-star girlfriend? Nick, if you're able to pull up the chat—tentatively—if you can pull it up—tentatively—last time we only had one girl who was—who did adult content, so it might—you know—just kind of fell flat. Seeing a lot of yeses. I'm seeing a lot of yeses on the Sha Evans thing, so uh, we'll do the reaction to the video first, then Nick, we'll pull up the Sha—you can work on the Shawn Evans things while we're getting the reaction to the video of—communic—yes and understanding.

Of the person and accepting their flaws. What's the worst thing a man can do during sex? The worst? I don't know. I've never had sex.

Either have I.

You guys aren't virgins?

Yeah, we are.

Ain't no way.

Yeah, well, why haven't you done it yet?

We're very religious. We're saving ourselves for marriage.

Yep. Yes. Okay. Now be honest with me: when you come out to the clubs in Miami, especially, and you dress how you dress, do you think I dress how I dress?

What does that mean?

I'm saying exactly how you are right now, which means implying what?

Well, let me finish the question. Okay? I would just like you to express details and what you said.

What details are you interested in?

You said, "dress how you dress." Please. When you have your belly out, you're wearing tight clothing, and you're showing cleavage.

Yeah, with cleavage. Okay. Do you not have your cleavage out?

These are attached to my body, so that she has that I have. Exactly, of course. But you can help what you wear, though.

Exactly. So finish your question.

So my question is, do you think that when a man looks at you, he's thinking, "This is somebody who I want to make my wife one day," or is this just a girl who I could probably have fun with?

I never put and think about what men—I have never gone to the club to meet a man. I go to dance with my friends. I don't want to find my husband at the club, just as much as a man doesn't want to find his wife at the club. So it's not to seek validation at all from a man when I get dressed. I never think about what a man wants. I think about how I feel. Okay? The man's opinion is never something—is never something that's validating ever.

What's your age? I'll pause it. Okay, so uh, the first thing I—there's two different things there. So to start, both those girls claimed that they were virgins, which I think is perhaps dubious based on how they were dressed. The girl on the uh, on the right was not blasted in tattoos but had quite a few tattoos, which I suppose it's possible you can be a virgin clubgoer who's fairly tatted up, but it kind of raises an eyebrow. So do you guys—so the first question is, do you think that girl who was tatted up, out clubbing in Miami—her, she wasn't dressed super revealing, but a little revealing—do you think she's a virgin or do you think she's lying? Starting with you, and we'll go around the table.

I think she's a virgin. I feel like, you know, you should be able to just freely live your life; it doesn't matter whether you have sex or not. And the chat's welcome to weigh in on this too. I mean, obviously she could be, but considering she claimed she was extremely religious but still did the activities that she was doing, you could tell that was kind of a lie already.

So well, the religious claim could have been dubious also.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying, like since there was a lie—like a possible lie already there—what else could she be lying about? It also took her a while to answer that she was a virgin.

Me, I believe them, because why would they lie? You know, why—why would someone lie?

Yeah, no, why would they lie to him about, you know, the question? Why would they lie? What was the point in lying to him?

I could think of a bunch of reasons someone might lie. I mean, if they're saying they don't care what men think or how they think about them, like why lie to a man about if you're having sex or not, if that is your—your point. I'm not sure what the reasons might be for why they would lie, but—but that's—I'm detecting a lie.

I detect a lie.

I mean, you would detect a lie because of how they dress, but you know—and the tattoos and the tat and the tattoos. Virgins can't have tats, God forbid, you know? I mean, okay, she's out clubbing, so I mean, I don't know what the scene is like in Miami. She's over 21. Uh, it just doesn't really—clubber, tattooed look—you could be a virgin, but you know, dress like a duck, act like a duck, quack like a duck, you're probably a duck. I mean, but they're proving—point. I mean, proven their point is in they don't care what you guys think about them, you know? At the point—not about what they care or don't care about—it's whether she's lying or not about—I mean, yeah. I mean, okay, fair. Uh, well, I think it's more satire than anything else, like because it's a [ __ ] question to someone, isn't it? If you woke up somebody—you're a virgin—of course I'm going to be—he didn't ask if they were a virgin; he asked like, what's the worst thing a man could do in bed, and they were like—they offered up—we're virgins. They offered up that they were virgins. Oh [ __ ]! I wasn't paying attention. Sorry. I w—I was—but like, in the sense of like, you walk up to a girl, you ask her a question like that, she isn't more than entitled to turn around to you in satire and be like, "I'm a virgin," and there should be no questions asked about that. Are we not allowed to make jokes, or do we have to sit there? Mean, they should be funny. It—it—I thought it was—well, it was, but not for the reasons you're saying it was, but I—oh, well, we obviously find entertainment different. I actually—yeah, I like things that are funny. I like things that are also funny. Taking control of the situation was funny, and him being a bit like—she wasn't taking control—funny for me. She didn't take control of the situation; she got—she got—she got mad. Right. Ow! How dare you! I can't believe that you would ever assume that me, dressed like I'm dressed, would ever think for a minute that I might, you know, kind of be a little on the promiscuous side. But that's the joke.

What's the joke? That like the whole—the coming—for a woman to be like—R1 Motorsport ports donated $200. What a panel of win we have here. Double bubble is more of a virgin than the girls in the video. H—just the way they hesitated and changed the posture when they looked at each other and decided to lie. Yeah, come on, let's—chicks, we're full of [ __ ].

I'm not saying they weren't full of [ __ ].

When did I say that? I actually—I think I know what you're saying, so I actually kind of agree with your assessment in that they kind of were joking, like they were—now I—I agree with Andrew; it's not a funny joke, but I think they were—I think they were—they were lying, and they were kind of like turning it—turning it on him, but yeah, then they—they go a bit like—it was a bit of a dismissive answer to their qu—to his question, because they didn't really want to engage, so they're just like, "Oh, I'm—I'm out here 'cause I'm super religious," like, what—come on, what do you think? So when I saw—Yo Miss Nims, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships, appreciate it. Go ahead. So when I saw the video, it looked like as soon as he asked that question, they got really like aggressive, and they lied about it, in my opinion. They lied about it. No, I'm religious. I'm Christian. Am I a virgin? Absolutely not. But Bas—I don't go to clubs much either, but based on how they're dressed, based on their posture when they were asked that question, I really think they were lying. Okay, could it have been satire? Body, absolutely. Plus, the other one came in as like a support mechanism. The first one's like, "We're vir—" The other one's like, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're fortunes."

What about you? I don't—and I never have understood why men care so much. If you're intending to be in a relationship with this woman, to date them, be their girlfriend, wife, whatever, I can understand wanting to know that or be concerned about that, but I don't know why so many random men care so much about women's body count and whether or not they're virgin or not. Could those two women have been virgins? Absolutely. Could they have been [ __ ]? Absolutely. I don't think there's any way of telling; only they know the answer to that, and I don't know why random men care.

Well, let me ask you something. Let's assume for a second that you were rolling the dice, and it was your life on the line, and if you got the wrong answer—wrong answer—that's it, it's lights out. First answer: they're virgins. The second answer: they're not. What's your answer?

M, yeah, based on how they were dressed, the tattoo, the cleavage, stomach showing, I would assume that they weren't.

And Mal, I think you're going to survive. My life was on the line, but normally I wouldn't assume. I don't care about other women's body counts.

Can I say something quick? Could they not have just been virgins because they were over the age of 20, fucking 2? Like, why do we have to keep going because of what they were wearing? Because of the tattoos, right? I don't think age matters.

Well, no, it's all—it's all of there, right? When you can legally lose your virginity—I don't know what the age it is here, but in England you can lose your virginity at 16, so most people going to—shotting people over 16, 18, you can—you're going to not be a virgin, so why does it matter that they had pretty—I thought that clothes were pretty. I would wear that. Like, they weren't that provocative, in my opinion. Could have been way more.

Yeah, it wasn't extreme. Well, one was dressed a bit more revealing than the other, but uh, the one on the left was not that b—it made about hookers or something like, right? I can see her coochie.

Continue. Go ahead. Go ahead again. I—I don't understand why it matters, and I do agree with um, what you were saying before about they got defensive and kind of respond with satire, like, "Oh, I'm a virgin. I don't want to talk about my sexual experiences in bed," um, but at the end of the day, like, because I—I deal with that a lot—a lot of times men will come up to me and assume my body count as high. Like I said, I've only been in one relationship; I've only slept with one person in my life, and people just assume—um, if I dress a certain way or I'm attractive, and I dress pretty conservatively usually—I—I don't know why random men care about—because we're pattern recognition machines, and so what happens is is that if we see—we see a pattern all the time of certain behaviors, then what ends up happening is we make these assumptions. Now you're right, they're not always right; they're not always right. Okay, but you can understand why people do it. You do it yourself.

Yes, I understand that, but if you make this assumption, then why don't you just rule that person out in your dating field?

Yeah, well, you might, but the point of this was he was on the street conducting interviews, so in part of his show is obviously to try to understand the engagement between men and women, so I completely understand why it was that he was asking that question. They have a right to do whatever they want, but I mean, it's reasonable to think, you know, based on the patterns, based on what we see, right, we can kind of make these assumptions, and yes, we're going to be wrong sometimes, but we're mostly not going to be right.

I—I'd agree with that to a certain degree, but again, I don't see the point—the point of what—the point of men caring what a woman who has nothing to do with their life's body count is.

I don't think most men do care, but we do care about the women who we might be pursuing romantically. That's—that's what I said. If you're pursuing a woman romantically, it's perfectly fine to um, ask about their body count and maybe if they dress promiscuously to question, "Hey, are you sure you're a virgin, or you sure your body count's what you say it is?" That's completely understandable if you're pursuing that person, but if it's just a random woman, she tells you she's a virgin, why are you going to have a back and forth about it?

Well, because he didn't want to suspend his disbelief initially. He also didn't ask what their body count was. It's like if you're walking down the street and there's an alarm going off and a guy has a ski mask on and an AR and a bag of money and you're like, "Hey, that bank's alarm's going off," and you're making assumptions, right? Well, it's true, you are, but—and like I said, if someone—it was life or death, you had to assume were they virgins or not—I would have assumed no, just—just based on their appearance, but—but I—I don't know why men get offended at—I don't think was offended. Oh, we got G One Motorsports donated $200. Yes, men must assume that if you dress like—hang out with—and go places that 304s go, then you are probably not a virgin, and we have to care. No man worth having wants today to see men—receptacle. By the way, I love that guy. The best super chatter is good one re—and also what's the same—oh my God. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Um, so also he—he was asking a question; they responded by saying that they were virgins, so he probed based off of their uh, questions, and he perhaps even detected on his own, just based off of our own observations that we made based on how they're dressed, based on their tattoos, but also perhaps based on the way they answered, which we kind of brought up uh, you know, he was probing, like, "Is this—are you guys serious?" Like, so—your thoughts on this. Also, could you scoot that way just a little bit? Uh, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I—I think that they were—they were joking, but I think that they were lying, and I also think that, you know, these videos, they get sectioned out so that people can just, you know, react to this, but you know, I work with PragerU; we do man on the street videos all the time. Walk up to people, and you either get a written permission that you can put them on camera and ask them questions, or you know, somewhere in the—can they have a audio visual with them saying, "Yes, I don't mind answering these questions," so it's always funny to me when, you know, people get on camera and then they have these like very evasive or um, aggressive responses. And so when I watch this and whether they're joking or not, whether they're lying or not, you know, I think this is a meritocracy; they're lying, let's judge them on that. Um, I—I think that the—this aggressive response—I always think it's funny when people uh, react that way, given they consented to be on camera. Okay, Andrew, your thoughts on the—are they—ve—well, I think you maybe already went into it. Okay, well, let me make it abundantly clear: they're [ __ ] lying. Okay, there you go. And then the uh—who was the other thing I was going to ask—the video. Okay, um, wait, what was the other thing I was going to ask? You didn't mention it. Just blanking. How am I blanking on the—I feel like I need to rewatch the video again. Uh, wait, how they were dressed—it was something—oh my God, it was like—wasn't it—judging by what they're wearing? Yeah. Oh, I guess yeah. Do you think that he was uh, off base for—aside from whether they were lying or not about the virgin thing—um, what do you think about, you know, his comments about, you know, how they were dressed? Was—was that even my [ __ ] question? Godam. Okay, was that even your point? Um, I honestly feel like it's just—every man does it, you know what I'm saying? They just judge you off of looks instead of, you know, getting to know you first, like that's everybody's first thing to do is just judge you off of your appearance, and um, I think it's BS because you could dress like what I'm wearing today; you could be the most innocent person in the world; you just—you don't know. But don't you J off parents to Fat Bost get in my belly. I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs. I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs. CH is baby back ribs. Okay, thank you for the third time. Thank you, Fat Bastard, appreciate it. Thank you. It's still—it's still funny though. Still fun. It's always funny. Thank you, thank you, man, appreciate your patronage. Did—did you have more on—on that—had a question? Yeah, I was just saying, I mean, you do that too though, right? I mean, yeah, but it's not all about appearance. Of course, you glance at somebody and say, okay, yeah, they're dressed nice, or they're dressed, you know, decent, but it's not just—for like a guy is uh, is way shorter than you, right? Kind like—wouldn't that be a thing that you would go—but that's because that's not my preference. I don't like short men, but that's judging off appearance. That's not for me to—no, I didn't judge him because I didn't say, "Oh, well, he has less money, or he—he doesn't have a good career," or—no, but I mean, you judge him against your preference. Well, yeah, but that's not the same thing.

It's the same thing.

No, it's not. How could it not be? Because you're judging someone based on your preference, right?

No, it's not—preference. You're judging them just because you think, okay, she dressed provocatively; she does, you know, ho [ __ ]. Yeah, and I have a—and I have a preference against that, right? But some people don't. I know some people don't. But you—the individual with a preference would be like—we can agree that's a society thing. Provocative—what she's wearing—that's society's view; that's not our personal view. When you—like people put into boxes, like, "She's dressed like a [ __ ]; she's dressed like a this," that's a society standard that has been placed upon someone. Sorry, it's happening—um, and—and what's—society made up of people, but it's a group—a group opinion—and a group opinion are made up of individual opinions that the most amount of those individuals have, right? You can have a different opinion to a society opinion, you can, but I'm just saying if you're looking at averages, you're saying—look—yeah, but you can't make everything average. Yes, but if most people hold the opinion—that's why stereotypes exist. But yes, but that's—but that's not what you were asking her. She said we're having a different conversation. No, 'cause you said you don't—she doesn't like short people. Yeah, right. She has—because it's against her preference. Yeah, you asked me—sorry, and it didn't mean to interrupt you. You asked me if I see a short man, would I judge him, and I said, "No, I'm not judging him; I'm just not going to look his way because that's not my preference." Then that's a judgment. It's not a judgment. How could it be anything other than a judg—not to entertain a certain type—let me see if I can demonstrate it to you. Let's say that you're on a blind date. Okay, room's totally dark; you can't see him. Mhm. Would you judge him on your height? You couldn't see it. If I reach out to touch—no, no, no, you can't see it. You stand that man up; can't you? Can't do any of that; don't have that requisite information. Would you judge him on his height? I can't—if I can't see him—the second you see it though, you make that judgment. It's not—but I don't feel like it's a judgment thing. Can you scoot your—can you scoot your mic this way? Yeah. To kind of be as charitable as I can be to this—I think I understand, and you can correct me if I'm wrong—you're saying when you're talking about judgment, yeah, you—when you think of judgment, you think of something negative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let's take that view away for a second. Okay, so we're not talking about negativity, but just general judgments, like if you're—if you're going to go across the street, you don't want to go where the traffic's busy, right? Right. Good judgment. Right, right. Okay, now I understand. You see what I'm saying? I can agree. Let me read this really quick. It didn't come through. Uh, if you just like a—"Oh wow, oh hey, she was a h—" You're going to be seen as a—"Hey, she was a h—" Feminism has made women think they should sexualize themselves, then I'm be about it—have some self-respect. The patriarchy is here for you. Well, honestly, some of us don't really care uh, if you see us as [ __ ], you know, because some of us don't want to be your wife; some of us don't want to be in a relationship with you guys; some of us are really just here to get your money, honestly. So you know, if you're looking at people—if I know that getting your money is me—if I dress provocatively, if I do this and I do that, that's going to attract you, you know, because you're looking for a wife, so you're going to go for a woman who is dressed a certain type of way, but me, I want your cash, so I'm going to act a certain way, and I'm going to talk to you a certain way so that the people who are interested in me as a dominant woman, they're going to come to me because they want me. So think—think about this: so what you're saying is based on all those prerequisites and the way that you ask, you're going to attract the exact type of whatever that you want to attract, right? Yes, of course. So then a stereotype will exist based on those things, and people will make those judgment calls, and they'll probably be right. But I've never said people don't judge. I—I get every single day—people inbox me every day unprovoked—tap, you know, just because of what I do, so it's like—it's not really—I—I know people judge; I get that, but I use it at—towards my advantage because I know people judge. No, I get that. I'm just saying that you understandably—if what they are judging based on this is probably accurate—that's the point because that we're living—we live in America. Go to another country—in Africa—we tits her out walking down the street—are you going to call her a [ __ ]? No. The judg—going to be because that's different because it's a different society, just like she told you—it depends on wherever you are, whatever society you are in, that is the opinion you have. So if I was born somewhere else—me outside my titties out—would not offend you. Yeah, but you're not—not—I'm not—in here, but it doesn't matter because—but if you were in the other—I'm not looking for what America society is here to give though, right? Because here—I'll explain, please. So let's assume that you're in this different nation and the standard for what they considered women who were looking for the preference of attracting people so they can get their money was that they dressed in sundresses. Mhm. Would you dress in a sundress? Yeah. Well, then you've just set the societal standard for how we can judge whether or not you're kind of a—a—I'm not disputing that though, but the whole point—and that's why the judgments there would be the same as the judgments here, and generally speaking, they'd be right. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that just—I'm just agreeing with what she said that this is a societal norm, and us here in America, we look at stuff a certain way; in a different area, it's looked at a different way, which is—is agreeable; it's just where you born at. Yeah, I'm not—I'm not disputing that—you're doing such a generalization though, and that's like—you can't take everything and be like, "Yeah, cool, so this one time, and then this second time, then this was a thing, so—so therefore it's all thing"—that's what m—do. Okay, forgot I was talking to a man. Well, let me ask you this—it's just a jokey joke. Go ahead. If you had to choose between crossing the street where there was a lot of traffic or crossing the street where there was very little traffic, but we're not talking about traffic—answer the question—which—it's not the same—I'm sorry—which street would you cross? I'm not—traffic—I'm not traffic—I'm

A human being. I didn't know that, but can you answer the question?

I'm not going to, cuz I'm not traffic. You're not going to answer the question. I'm not traffic. When, when did I walk in here with a big old two headlights in my head shining, blinking? When are we in the car movie? Realiz--are we in the car? Yeah. Do you realize though that I'm just making an analogy to test your logic?

Yes, but what you're doing is you're making an analogy on anatom objects and situations which don't comply to society.

No. Then answer the question, and then I'll look stupid, cuz you're just going to go, "Oh well, that's like what I expected you to say because you done it like five times already," because that would mean that the generalization would be correct. Generalization is correct, but not when you're talking about people's emotions and feelings.

Sorry. No, prove it. Hang on, hang on. Show me how generalization is not correct when you're talking about people's emotions, feelings. Like, for right now, I can tell that you're animated. That's a general statement. Am I wrong? This might just be the way I am all the time. I'm quite an excitable person, actually. You could ask my friends.

So wait, so you're, you're an excitable person and you're animated, and I made the general statement that you're animated, and I'm right.

Yeah, but what--

Yeah, but nothing. No, cuz you're still doing it again. I know it's people's feelings that you're putting out there and that you're generalizing. So, and I would generally get it right. Someone is a slot because she wore a nice pink dress. Didn't call anybody a SL. The thing here is, is the conversation from this side of the table is I'm hearing that that some people are okay with being a hoe. I think that was an exact, and that was an exact quote. You know, I'm not, I do not care about being so. Here, here's--I'm not saying there's a problem. I'm saying that B Grid One Motorsports donated $200. Brian, I am off for the night. Flying tomorrow and tired. Flying gets you killed. Maybe remind the panel this is a dating panel, not a ho panel. So if you want to end up alone with cats, keep keeping on. I do, I would love to have a bunch. How many cat--how many? I would have, I would probably have like three dogs and maybe like two cats. Two c--two cats. Yo Grid One, thank you, thank you man, appreciate it. Cuz they will take care of me, you know, I just have to give them some, you know, clean stuff, much. And that's kind of my point is that if that's your goal, and that's what I'm hearing communicated from this side, from from the that corner, what he's saying and what you're saying are not dissimilar. You're making a judgment upon yourself. He's making a judgment. I love--I know me. That's fine. I love taking out the negative connotation of judgment because I think that's totally fair, because it doesn't have to be negative. And so I think you guys are kind of saying the same thing. And I, you in about her, they were the one going back and forth. She was defending no that because when it comes to emotion, is totally different. But it's not really totally different, is because when you go out of your way to hurt someone's feelings, like in that thing, like those guys were offended, and they were up like that. Those girls who agreed to be on camera and answer his questions got really offended by the questions that they were then asked. But right, that's it's the same way, like we're on this podcast and we're talking about things that are going to get heated. Things get heated. I've agreed to be this podcast. I've agreed to--you're kind of going against your own point right now.

No, I'm not. I've agreed to be on this podcast. I've agreed to accept what is being said to me. I'm still allowed to get offended. Sorry. When was that?

Yeah, you can get offended. Yeah, it's fine. So they were allowed to get offended. They were allowed to get upset. You said that they weren't allowed allowed to get offended. You just did. Wait, what? When? Cuz I just said like it's people's feelings and you were like, "It doesn't count with emotion. Generalizations don't count with emotion." Yeah, and we were talking about those two girls and I'm generalizing about their emotions, but opinions. But you're almost there. The light bulb's about to go--come on, it's about to go. We were like, we're so close [ __ ] it's about to ding. Come on, it's--I just--they, they were offended, and I--they're more entitled to be offended. What was being applied on them? The word, unfortunately, the one that he has to bleep out is an offensive word in our society, and he was refined to that as them. They got offended. They're allowed to get offended. Generalizations on what girls were to call them things like s--am I allowed to say the word?

Yeah, but he didn't--that guy didn't call them any of those things. S--s--s--a slute. He was inferring it. You could infer that that was--there's no way you're not a virgin. Assumption. Dress that way, and they--he--wait a--for if the inference is that he thought they were a slute, then they were generalizing about his emotional state, weren't they? They both made assumptions there, but one of them isn't okay when you're offending people. I don't know. I just don't think it's nice to be mean to people. But if I didn't like redheads, your emotions are IR relevant. I still don't like redheads. Well, it's still bit me that that's an opinion though. So wait, you don't like redheads?

No. Every--everybody's dog piling. Crazy time to say that. Sit in the corner with my friend. Emotions are irrelevant when it comes to other people's opinions and generalizations. That is true though. No. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. Opinions are like [ __ ] everyone has one. Wait, not everyone's entitled to their own, but some people might have two opinions. No, everyone's a to your opinion, but I'm not going to say that everything I just said. Simon, a set like, "Well, here we were, we were going around the table getting people's just general reactions to that interaction." Um, I don't know exactly where we left on to close stuff right. I think, okay, yeah. So when, um, I'll tell you something. So when that guy that I'm talking to recently, we went on our first date. Sushi. And the first thing he asked me--well, not the first thing, but he asked me, and he said, "Would it be okay if you know, like if you were going out on a night on a night with your friends or something and you were wearing something that I didn't like, would you be okay on compromising with me to wear something better?" I was not offended by that. Oh, I thought that was okay because it's communication, and that's what matters because we're both striving to have a future together. And it also depends on the woman too. If he was on a date with another woman, and another woman got offended by that, but I didn't get offended by that. It also depends on the woman. It also, it strongly depends on the woman and how they're how they're taught and what they're comfortable with. And like I said, I was okay with it. You're, you're a better woman than me, babe. What I said, you're a better woman than me, babe. I'm really argumentative. I'm a b--better. Sorry, better. I was giving you a [Laughter] compliment. Fishnet fatty on the right donated $266. Don't insult her. If not, do I have a shot? I'm white, 5'10", semi-jacked, rich, and 100% authentic African-American below the belt. P.S. Get the foury pig off the show. Wow. Okay, what the [ __ ]? Sorry, that was--you're nasty. Sorry, uh, Madison, do you want to respond to--I already have a boyfriend that checks all those boxes [ __ ] I get you a hug. All right. Did you not--no, I don't like white guys. So shito, what is it? Works out then, uh, wait, just behind you cracked on that you don't like--not not like--no like--no no no no like I don't date white guys. Just curious. Pren--so I just love darker skin tone. It's just the melanin for me. I don't know why. It's the melanin. It's the melanin. It's the melanin for you. The melanin. Um, so when you say darker skin, are you talking uh, Latinos, black, uh, anything other than my skin tone? Anything other than white. Anything other than my skin. What about like a--what about like a light-skinned black person? Yeah, that's, that's okay. Yeah, okay. All right. My, my ex-fiancé ruined that for me. White people for you. Yeah, I, I'm curious if like, let's say your ex-fiancé was black and then we were just were to reverse and say, "Well, my ex-fiancé who was black, he ruined everything for me with," so I don't--that that might be a little questionable of a statement. Maybe, maybe it's just your preference. No, you look, I think you can have, I think you can have racial dating preferences, but when you say, I think if you specifically say, "Well, I dated this one specific white," say because of your guess--it's not--I guess it's not because--I guess it's not because of my ex, but that's what you just said. I know. Okay, I feel like you could blame it on your experience. So my ex-fiancé cheated on me 10 times, and I stayed with him all of those 10 times. So you think all white guys are cheaters? No. So when he cheated on me all those 10 times, was it with black men and that's why you're--wait, wait, you said he cheated on me with--he cheated on you with 10 black men? No, no, no. Oh, okay. I thought maybe that was the basis of your--did you, did you cheat on him with--I'm confused. I wanted to revenge story. Were there any men involved with him with him? Yeah, I, I don't know. Oh, okay. But he cheated on you with 10--10 times. 10 times. Damn. That's 10 times. So this one was kind of this--so one, there was one instance. This is when I was pregnant with his kid. Oh, and the story has gotten deep. So I was pregnant with this kid. This was around July, and this is--I lived in a small town at the time. So, um, I came out, we were in an argument about something. I don't remember what the argument was about, and then he came outside and I said, "Why won't you let me see your phone? You know, I'm not a, I'm not a controlling person," and he's like, "I'll let you see my phone, but I got to delete someone first." And instantly I already knew something was red flag, and I was like, "Why?" And he's like, "Well, I'm in an argument with somebody. I just got to get rid of them so that way it's not harmful for you and the baby." So he deleted that person. We were going in my car to go see his dad. I saw that he had a Kik account. I checked his Kik. So you know, like those uh, scammer robots, like the ones on Snapchat, Instagram that like ask you to pay for photos. Sorry, this one cracks me up every time. As soon as, as soon as I, as soon as I saw that chat, he, he was saying, "I love you" to it, to a, to a bot. Yes, to a bot. Like it was a real person. That's be embarrassing. And I didn't even cry. I didn't even flinch. I just started laughing. Yeah, that's quite, quite funny. Good times. And then, and then he cheated on me like two more times after that. Wait. And so you have a kid? Yes, I have a son. I have one son. But you guys, uh, how's the, how's the son? He turned two in December. Two in December. How long have you been split with, uh, we split in--so we got together in 2019, and then I split with him in 2022. Would you date an Italian? Yeah. What about a Philip--like a Filipino? Yeah, man, cuz they have like dark--wait, you date an Italian guy? What? I date an Italian guy. Yeah, yeah. They're white. Darker skin. They have a little bit darker skin. Ah, I see. Okay. All right. You're talking like the Irish. I'm talking like pale, pale, pale, like me. Yeah, I'm too pale. Okay. And redheads. Red heads. Gingers. Out. Blue eyes. If they have blue eyes, it's no--I mean, can have--people can have a darker skin tone, blue eyes. That's true. That's a very sexy combination, actually. Very sexy. I have a, I have a good, I have a good friend of mine that's darker skin tone, and she has blue eyes. Okay. Must be, uh, getting back to our reactions here to the uh video. What about you? Your thoughts about the outfits? Well, just your general reaction to the interaction. Yeah, yeah. I think the interaction, um, was pretty awkward. I don't know, like what you both stated why they got so defensive after they agreed to do the interview, um, and I think they did a really shitty attempt at making a joke about themselves being virgins, and they didn't expect to be pressed about it. And then when he directly started attacking her outfit, you know, showing cleavage, showing, um, her midriff, I think she got offended because he was right. Um, someone who is not meaning to be sexualized obviously wouldn't dress in that way. And all women say, "Oh, I'm just dressing for myself," which at the end of the day, maybe they are, but you know that if you dress a certain way, men are going to see you a certain way. Okay, I mean, I think that they, they knew that. Again, I'll say that they knew they were being interviewed, um, when they agreed to do it. I think that you know, there's some accountability for the way that you dress, kind of like you said, said. I, I agree. I think that there's, you know, they can say all they want that it was for themselves or it's because we're out in Miami or whatever the reason was, like, i--I've been in Miami. I, I understand, but you know, there, there's some accountability in how you present yourself. And only when you get on a a questionnaire video do you really say like, oh, like, well, it's for me. It's--well, you know, it's kind of an attention thing. Even if they weren't looking for a guy, you know, I think I pretty much stated my thoughts on it previously, but that's, that's--it's an attention thing, even if they're not, you know, out in the club looking for a guy that they would settle down with, which I'm going to go ahead and assume that they weren't. They even just like instigated it on themselves, like they were just asking him questions like, "Oh, why don't you think I'm a virgin? Say something about my outfit. What do you think about my outfit? Why do you think that about my outfit?" So they were kind of asking for it. Yeah, like they asked for them, they ask for--right, it's kind of that thing where, you know, "Oh, we don't want, you know, you to have an opinion on what I wear. Oh, don't have an opinion on what I wear. Oh, guys can't have an opinion. Don't judge a woman," but like, like they, they were, they were asking for that. That's a great point. Any closing thoughts, Andrew, on this specific video? I don't think that women dress like that for themselves either. I honestly just don't, I don't believe that. I don't believe it. I don't think that they go out in public like that, "I don't want anybody to look at me. Don't look. I do it--what's [ __ ] you know what I do it for? When I'm in the toilet and a really, really hot girl turns around to me and goes, 'You look really nice,' that makes my night over a guy hitting on me. 100%. A girl going to me, 'Where's your dress from? It's so pretty,' or 'Your makeup looks nice.' I'm like, 'Yeah, look at me.' I love that. I love that [ __ ] I mean, the club is for--Fat Bastard donated $200. Get in my belly. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. CH--it's baby back ribs. That's like, all right, okay, that's a lot, man. Hey, thank you for your patronage. Appreciate it. Um, I think you were about to saying like, okay, they're going to the club. We're supposed to address a certain way, like how when we got the thing it told us, you know, what we can wear to come here, and he said, you know, one of the said, "Club attire." Devon Jackson donated $200. I dress for myself just means I dress for the way I feel. When people look at/see me online, it's not the deep. Y'all take picks to post them, and y'all go out dressed a certain way to be looked at. Right, right. Yeah. So what I was saying, like the club is where we go to have fun, entertainment, where you know, you're going to be seen, so you wear club attire when you go out. So of course, when you see somebody on a Miami street leaving a club dressed in club attire, why, why does it have to be [ __ ] wear? It's literally when we go to Fashion Nova or whatever, we put in club wear. We don't put in [ __ ] wear, wh--wear. We put in club wear because it's a specific type of clothing that you wear when you go out because I think that probably the stereotype exists and probably rightly that women who go out to nightclubs a lot are probably fairly loose women. That's F--I mean, that's fine. That is fine, but I don't see the point in it being demonized because they're going to the club. I'm not sure he demonized as much as he was just couldn't suspend his disbelief. Well, you did just them loose. That's true. It--he was stuck on the virgin thing of a loose woman just means like uh, you know, maybe promiscuous. Does it? I would, I would think if someone's calling me loose, they're going to say I have a loose vagina. Is that--I mean, I feel like it's subjective. Everybody has their own thought process when it comes to being called loose. I guess that's when they say loose, they're trying to say you--maybe it's just different in in England, cuz that if you said that to a girl in England, you would literally be saying it was snagging. And well, that also would apply here, but it's like it--you could use that term specifically, but loose, I think means she's promiscuous. Okay. That doesn't--in England, you, you get slapped. I mean, more time, nine times out of 10, nobody is saying you're loose in your face. They're saying it online, behind TV screens. Nobody has ever said anything to me disrespectful in my face ever, like unless you're trying to show off for this type of thing. Nobody has ever came to me and said, "Oh, you fat pig," or "Oh, this and that." They never have done that. And my day-to-day walking out and about, people come to me and they are very respectful. They say, "Oh, you look nice. You, you're so beau." They don't be rude. This is an online fantasy that people do. They feel more confident they're behind, you know, whatever, and they want to be disrespectful, or they want a viral moment to make you look like, you know, whatever, like this person who keep doing the Fat Bastard thing because you know, it's to make us look, to humiliate us, but you know, we're not--I'm not going to be negative because it's also giving you Cor. So at the same time, I'm not going to be negative, but it is to be disrespectful towards us being plus-sized, which is not cool. At first it was funny. It's not what's happening. Come on, y'all. I know y'all not--are y'all, are y'all serious? No, I didn't, I didn't know about her. I don't know about her, but all the time username. Yeah, it's F bastter. Come on, guys. Okay, it's from Austin Powers, right? He, he actually sends that on like--yeah, yeah, but he's doing it when plus-sized people are talking. He's not doing it when skinny people are talking. He's, he might have sent it once when Andrew was talking. I don't know. Okay, guys. All right, all right. Let's go. We, we will move on. Let's go on that point about like people not like saying negative things to your face too. I also feel like it's just with like our society and our culture of people just thinking things are or just like accepting everything as okay now. I actually agree with you on the like in, like in person people wouldn't say anything like that to your face, but then like online people would talk mass of [ __ ]. That's something I deal with. I'm sure anybody else here who's a content creator has dealt with somebody saying some [ __ ] they would never say it to you to your face. I think it's--Mike Tyson has this quote like something like, "The internet has made people way too comfortable uh, talking [ __ ] or something like uh," Oh hey, Burmes, thank you for the uh, 20 gifted Subs on Twitch. Appreciate it. That's cuz guys used to talk [ __ ] to Mike Tyson when he was going into clubs, and he'd knock him out right there in front of it. That's why--what is the actual Nick? Are you able to find what, what is the Mike Tyson comfortable disrespect social media made y'all way too comfortable comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it? So great quote from uh, Mike Tyson. Okay, we're going to react. You just didn't have the voice though. Like you have to make fun of the voice, but yeah, I probably wouldn't do it there. Okay, so let's uh, react to the Shan Evans thing. Uh, so if you're able to pull it up, Nick, if you could put us on the other side. So Shan Evans was allegedly dating, reportedly dating po--uh, P star Melissa Stratton, and uh, if you can scroll, is there anything else? They're just hugging, whatever. Scroll back up. So this was actually--what's the date on this? Scroll down. Just show us the date. February 13th. Okay, right before Valentine's Day. Uh, next post, Adam 22. I believe this on Valentine's Day says, "Congrats Sean, her [ __ ] is fire." Damn, that's funny. And then skip over to--we're not going to look at--that was the inter of the month. And then the day after Valentine's Day, it's reported by TMZ, Hot Ones host Sean Evans breaks up with porn star Melissa Stratton. So there's two things here. One, actually, I don't really care about the whole Valentine's Day angle. He broke up with her on Valentine's Day. Who cares? Uh, more, more interestingly is the conversation of, "Well, he was dating her." I assume, I'm--let's just assume he almost certainly knew going into to dating her that she was in porn, uh, but when he got--look, who knows why they broke up. He got a little heat for it online though. Within 24 hours, 48 hours, they've been, they're broken up after getting heat. In Adam 22 congratulating him on his girlfriend's [ __ ]. Do you think it's wrong for Shan Evans? Now, if background for viewers who don't know him, Shan Evans, host of Hot Ones, millions of subscribers on YouTube, incredibly successful. They interview big name, like A-list celebrities on there. A very successful show, uh, I'm sure he's, he's a millionaire many times over, uh, clouded up, whatever. Do you think it was wrong of him to have broken up with her because she's a porn star?

Yes, absolutely. Um, and, and why? You knew what it was when you signed up. I feel like he kind of had a moment where he thought this was going to be his big one, like, "Oh, I'm dating a porn star now, and I'm already, you know, I have a lot of clout, I have a lot of subscribers and fans. This is going to be big for me," and instead it backfired in his eyes because he was getting more heat and more, you know, negative commentary than positive. So I feel like once he got all of that heat, he was just like, "I kind of, I kind, I messed up here." Okay, so, okay, but if you were on Twitter and you saw that and you saw Adam 22 says, "Congrats bro, her pussy's fire," you would laugh, right?

Yeah, laugh. I'm bust--all laughing. Just damn, like, okay, like, what can I say? I don't know. I feel like he was lame for breaking up with her for that. Okay, Madison, your thoughts? Um, again, I feel like you knew what you're were getting into, into, but I honestly think it was bound to happen, better sooner than later, me. I feel like he was wrong. She should have went with a cuck because when Adam would have said--when Adam

Would have said, you know, her [ __ ] was fire. They would have just been like, he would have been like, “Thank you. You know what I mean?” and just kept it pushing and been happy.

And also another thing: a lot of this stuff is just for clickbait, so who knows if that wasn’t set up or fake or something? And they did it so they they can get this viral moment. Like everything is for clout nowadays, so you know, he got a big story out of that, even if whatever it was. Wait, Sea or Adam22, both? But Sean, but but Sean and the girl, because I was on her page and she was like, “You know, you shouldn’t date a porn star. BL blah blah blah.” But you know this as well, like you’re a porn star, so you already know what type of backlash we get. You know why come forward? You come forward because you know this is going to give you some type of type of attention, bad or good. You know they know that if you get attention, good or bad, you you still going to get whatever it is you want—followers, whatever it is that you’re trying to get, it’s going to come with it. So I feel like he was wrong, but at the same time, I don’t know if it was real. So, going to set it up though—it it would not have been good for that guy to set that up like that, right? Like that would not have been good for his reputation. Publicity is any publicity is good public—any publicity. I don’t I also don’t know if that was serious to him, cuz he wasn’t—or I saw in like one of Adam’s clips like he was not posting about it at all, but she was like posting on her story that she was with him and everything, and he just like no response. Like, wait, Adam—no, sponsor Sean. He posted about the relationship, and she was posting so much about it.

Like, obviously he knows the thing with some of these asymmetrical relationships where one person’s like way more famous than the other—like it only serves like the person who has less engagement, less followers, they have only to gain by engaging in any sort of drama farming with potential or even current uh, whereas the GU—the person has only to lose by engaging with, like if if you’re Sean Evans, who’s got what, over 10 million subscribers on YouTube? Can get a number check—like it’s just not—it’s not good. He’s a—and he’s not just like a normal content creator—like he’s moving the circles he’s moving in; it’s not just like other content creators. He’s bringing on A-list celebrities to his show. He’s brought on, I mean like, yeah, musicians, actors. What’s up? No, we don’t need to pull up the YouTube, but 13.2 million subscribers. That’s why I think he didn’t even care about like the drama and the flack that he was going to get. Like I don’t think it was that serious to him; he wasn’t posting publicly about their relationship at all. Like, say, reportedly how did it—oh, it said reportedly, so it wasn’t—no, it wasn’t a real, yeah, relationship. I’m asking because honestly, what if this is the case? He has 10 million followers—this, right, right? Why didn’t he have her sign an NDA?

I signed plenty of them. Okay, I can’t tell the people. Can you scoot your mic that way? Just perfect. Perfect. So you know, I signed plenty NDAs, and I can’t go out and say, “Oh, I slept with this person.” I could say, “Oh, I’ve dealt with NFL players. I dealt with, you know, NBA players or whatever.” But if he was—he was feeling that kind of way, he didn’t want her to go—why didn’t you make her sign the NDA? Is that—you have all these followers, you know your reputation, you—I don’t get it. Know, is he uh—I mean, he’s big, but I feel like is Sean Evans NDA big? I don’t I don’t know. Yeah, I I don’t know if you think so. Am I NDA big? Yeah, you should be. I’m NDA big. Go take it—take it. I don’t know—sign something—not speak of you know [ __ ] Okay, I got some loose ends I got to sh—too late. Yeah, it’s too late now. From this point on, post uh post-relationship NDA. Why uh okay. I I I think I think a plumbing company at this point’s indgo. Okay, all right. Um, wait, okay uh where were we? I think did you give your take? Uh, no, we’ll go around the table. Go ahead.

Um, I want to be offended because I like being offended by things, uh, and I think it’s more interesting. And obviously, doing the job that I do, it’s upsetting when you meet someone you really like and they don’t want to be with you because your job—ends up that you might have to sleep with somebody for a shoe, or you might have to do something, or people online see you naked, and that doesn’t change the way you feel about that person. You still fancy the pants off them; you still like could fall in love with them, and them not liking you back because of your job like sucks so hard. And I have been in that position where a guy was like to me, “I think you’re wonderful. I think you’re amazing, but your job makes me think you’re a hall, and I don’t want to be with someone like that.” And it was heartbreaking, but I have to respect—unfortunately, you do have to respect the other person; they have a complete right to say, “I actually don’t like the fact that other people go inside you, even if it’s not out of love.” Right? Absolutely. Like, and the thing is, Adam22’s literally slept with the whole industry. Jesus Christ! Like, well, if you slept with Adam 20, you’re probably still making good money, so by the way, if you want to, but like it does suck. And even I don’t know like the relationship between and 22 and the lady, the porn star—sorry, the P star involved um and it could have just been a shoe, but when you hear about it and then it’s different being like, “Okay, I’m dating a P star,” to then people talking about how they’ve been with your woman, and like you don’t you don’t know what you’re getting into until you get into it. It so I kind of—it sucks, and I wish I could be like [ __ ] you, you’re a [ __ ] He’s not a [ __ ] he just got into something he didn’t know it was going to end like—like you don’t know how you’re going to feel about it until it happens. That’s true. But when you’re like going into industry, either for work or if you’re even getting into a relationship with someone in there, you know that there’s going to be some sort of black—like you kind of have to expect that. If you have to expect it, but you don’t know actually how it’s going to make you feel until somebody says it. Does that make sense? Coming out on Twitter virally—like 22 is massive—him replying to your like relationship status being like, “I oh yeah, we’ve banged—like bloody amazing. I want to do it again.” I’m going to read that as the partner and probably be like, “Oh, I’m actually but hurt,” and you don’t realize that you’re going to feel that way. And people are entitled, as I said, to change their opinions and their emotions. We obviously like also don’t even know if like that was the reason they broke up, but like it’s probably—it. I can see it definitely being that because the amount of people that do have problems with female creators because they’re like being used, making money from something that a man wants to own, as I literally know from personal—like people want to own one of my vaginas for God’s sake! Like I get it, so like somebody else using that, I can understand why a man would be—they shouldn’t be. I wish they weren’t, but you you can’t tell somebody to feel some kind of way; you have to respect them. So yeah, that’s my take. I think it was more of an online image thing. When you’re someone with that much—that big of an audience—to be publicly called a cuck that goes viral on Twitter, regardless of—and I—this maybe she—I think he was calling him a c—I don’t think that was happening. I mean, that’s that’s what the implication is—say, “I [ __ ] your [ __ ]” like—but a cuck is somebody who watches in the room—like you have to be in the room watching them. Also, someone who’s okay, you know what I’m saying? You have—know what—no man wants to be dragged online for another men publicly stating he’s been with their woman, or any—it’s just bad for brand, and I don’t know whether or not he intended for the relationship to be long-term, but I think regardless, at that point it was, “Okay, this is bad for my brand, bad for my image. I need to cut this off and move forward.” Yeah, so I have to agree with you on that. I really think it was because of his image. He’s a he’s a known guy, and then as soon as started people posting on Twitter about it—about the relationship—whether he did it publicly, whether he did it privately, people are going to find out, and then if maybe the guy just got [ __ ] drunk and when he sobered up he’s like, “Oh [ __ ] maybe it could have been”—he was like, “Oh [ __ ] Okay.”

In my opinion, I really think it was just cuz as soon as everything started posting on Twitter and maybe backlash, compliments, whatever they were like, he was like, “Oh, I gotta protect my image.” And besides, it was only what, two days? But there was a photo of them together, right? Yeah, out publicly. Yeah, right. So that’s—I’m saying like I like—he looked like he could have been drunk in that photo—piur out with a porn star. It could have just been a fling as well, because—but it doesn’t look like a fling; they look like they’re together, like just based off of the photo is what I’m saying. They look like they’re together, and it could have been—I I don’t really know the situation at all. I just think ultimately it would have done more harm for his brand, for his business, for everything to stay in the relationship after that situation happened, and I think he valued that over continuing it. Yeah, and and also like I—it was two days; it’s not like they were together for years. That’s why I said I ultimately think that is the reason why he ended the relationship. I don’t see any other reason. You know what I’m saying? I don’t get mad about this because he ended it early. I mean, it was two days, and also it was because of his image, because I mean, he’s a well-known dude right now. If they were together for 5 years and then the—the heavy rain of disapprovement on Twitter hit and he’s like, “Man, five years, but I don’t”—all right, I’ve got to interrupt this conversation really quick. Me and uh our uh British friend over here, I went to go behind the scenes, then she reminded me she had to—showed me her and it—I uh for for science, I did confirm—course she showed me a—she showed me a photo. I can confirm she does in fact have uh two—these. We know. Good talk. Okay, back to Sean Evans. You went—correct, you gave your take. Did you give a take, Alexis? Not yet. I mean, he he he’s a—we’ve all seen his content. He’s a pretty monotone dude on camera who tastes hot sauce for a living, like versus other people. He can’t be publicly a pansy, like it’s kind of that thing where you know, I think that if um I don’t know the other Adam—is it Adam? Yeah, I don’t think if if Adam didn’t comment on it, you know, maybe he meant for this relationship to be public, maybe he didn’t, but for Adam to comment on it, I think the day after I get posted—you see that’s the first tweet that goes viral about your new relationship, whether it was just a photo of someone in the club or not, I don’t know. I think I think this could have been one huge accident because it said reportedly. It looked like a club photo—like this did not look like a committed relationship in my opinion, but let’s just say hypothetically it was—some guy gets back on Twitter that night that he’s you know been with the girl that you just announced you’re dating. You know, guys have a—I don’t care who you are, whether you have a platform or not—like guys have a a a biological proclivity to want to, you know, have—if they’re going to date someone, that’s kind of like the exclusivity of it. And if you know—you can say he knew what he was getting into with who he was dating. I I don’t know, but I think when you’re faced with it—kind of what you guys were saying—it it’s different. And ultimately, he made that decision after one day, which I think is is is much kinder than letting it go on uh if that—if he wasn’t down, then he wasn’t down, and that that wasn’t what he was looking for, and um that’s kind of it. It’s beautiful. Andrew, any—he takes? I have a take on this; it’s just [ __ ] hilarious. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, my take on this is that Sean Evans, you are famous, you’re rich, you don’t need to be dating a porn star. That’s my tape. That’s it. But what’s wrong with dating B—oh well, there’s plenty—oh, please do tell. I’d love to know. Oh, Lordy, Lord, Lord. Is this the UN? Talk about this. We talk about—obviously, if you don’t really question—I can roke it. I’d love to know. I’m not actually—and my angle on this—I’m not making an actual uh argument against porn. I am making an argument against men dating women who are involved in sex work, and there’s a couple arguments. First off, uh if your woman is—her work—now I realize some women are involved in sex work and aren’t having sex with other men. Yeah, basic standard for men—don’t date women who are [ __ ] other men. I don’t know if that’s an extreme take; I think that’s a pretty reasonable take for a man to have—to not be romantically or sexually involved with a woman who’s [ __ ] another man. But what if there’s no love involved? I don’t care. I don’t care if there’s love. I don’t I don’t care how much money she’s getting. PA—think about what you’re saying. Okay, so you’re saying that a guy’s wife goes to an office party and like bones the coworker and then goes—but there was no love involved. Yeah, but there was just like—either—and there was no work involved. They were at the work party, but it wasn’t really like they were working. Yeah, but it’s the same—it’s the same thing emotionally. You’re saying that the—the only—I don’t even know why word—I’m sorry, please let me rephrase my previous statement. If it—they are doing it with no emotional attachment and there are cameras and it’s work—yeah, why is work the distinction? Because at the end of the day, if it—there wasn’t work, you would be cheating. Yes. Why—it’s why—because you’re engaging in sexual intercourse with the—with—without—with—not the same thing you’re do—why—why is there a difference if you’re doing it with somebody filming it or not? It’s a difference because it’s a—jence—the difference is one is you doing your job and one is you just having sex with somebody. So your job is to cheat? No, your job is to have sex on camera. That—well, and if you’re with somebody as a partner, why wouldn’t they view that as cheating? They’re just—to much—man, you—my profession—if that’s the description of my profession, then how is that cheating? That is a part of my job. Literally—what if the description of your—if your—what if the description of your profession was like, I don’t know, to murder people. That was the—hang on, hang on, stop—stop analogies, and we don’t have to make an analogy. Cut through—well, we do—no, we don’t. Okay, we really don’t. Okay, so we just take your word for it. No, it’s not taking my word for it. Let me make an argument. Resp—take analogies. Okay, hold on, let him make his point, and then you—let me make an argument, then you can respond to the argument. I actually disagree with you on this one. If your job—if your job—I’ll say why—I’ll say why—if your job was to do something which um—what’s considered immoral, let’s say in this particular instance—I don’t know, murdering somebody for a living or something like this—does somebody else look at that and go, “Well, you’re not murdering people cuz it’s your job?” Does that even make sense? Yeah, how does that make sense, Andrew? If I—if that—that makes—hold on, let me—let me actually—you call it murder; I call—hold on, let me—hold on—stop—stop—stop—stop. I’m—let—I’m going to let you—literally a Hitman. So Andrew, mhm, you’re you’re making the argument that it’s cheating. Yeah, I don’t think it’s good for your girlfriend to be sleeping with other men, but if if you willingly date a woman who does porn and she’s disclosed to you and you know and you have knowledge of that—she’s going to be sleeping with other men—as much as I find that disgusting and repulsive, uh I don’t think it fits the exact definition of cheating because there’s—for me, cheating there has to be some degree of like you are un—you’re not privy to uh like if you’re—you’re basically in an open relationship almost. I don’t know if it’s cheating. I think it’s a terrible position for a man to be in, but I don’t know if it strictly meets the definition of of cheating because—for—Rel—hold on—for example, if—stop—stop, please—please—if you were in uh an open relationship with a woman, for example, and you both had a discussion about it and she could sleep with other men and you could sleep with other woman—women, and she slept with another man, would would that be cheating? Mhm. What would make that a relationship? Well, it’d be an open relationship. Yeah. Well, what—what—what is an open relationship? It’s just an immoral set of relationships. Well, that’s—I think that’s a different conversation—op—but that’s my point. But that’s your opinion; that’s not my point—is to look at this—so this is what I’m looking at, right?—is the definition. So we’re looking at the definition, so I’m saying—I’m making a moral argument. What he’s making—what he’s making is a different argument; he’s talking about defition. That’s what we’re talking about—we talk—but it is what we’re talking about. So if you’re asking—you’re—if you’re cheating, right?—is that bad? Yes. Well, then it’s a moral argument. So what you’re saying is this isn’t cheating, so it’s not immoral, so it’s a moral argument. Okay. I just don’t think any man who’s confident and has self-respect would want to put himself in a relationship where other men are getting SE—sexual gratification from his girlfriend, his wife, whatever it is. Do you know—on set—it so hard for a man to come—they are not just like whipping it out and having the best time. I don’t even—I’m—I don’t even know—that’s such a nonse—how is that to at all related to what she’s saying? Go ahead. I’m not even referring to the men on set. When you make corn on the internet, when you do o—or whatever—other men are getting sexual gratification and jacking off to that content, regardless of if the guy you slept with in the video got harder, enjoyed it or not. And I don’t know how any man with self-respect would be with that woman who has multiple men jacking off to their content. Do you know men jack off to regular pictures on Instagram? Yes, but they’re not created with—it doesn’t matter—you deliberately creating content with the intent sex—gratifying, so it really doesn’t matter how you’re portraying yourself in certain instances. No, it doesn’t. We can’t—other people’s thoughts. And then you can—you cut me off, but I will let you—no, you actually—I will finish your point. I I’ll pause. I was responding to your—to your stat—no, you’re actually speaking over me, but you can continue. I wasn’t—are you going to say the point? I I am if you allow me to. Thank you. So like I was saying, you do know that men do jack off to regular pictures, right? Also, you’re offended—I think you’re offended. I’m not offended at all—asking you—do you know that that’s what they did? I am aware that men jack off to animals—is—yes, you go—but the answer is yes, they do. I’m asking you a question. Why you got to bring animals into this? Leave the animals out of this conversation. Where I was going with it—that’s all. Okay, but I I think you’re personally taking offense because your Instagram may be very promiscuous to the point where you’re creating content for men to Su in a sexual way. I mean, that’s what they choose to do anyway, but they could—I agree with that—her only point is—her only point is that they still going to do it on Regular People Instagram as well. There there’s really no—you know—that’s basically all I was trying to say—like the one part that she was saying—I was just trying to point—that’s all that I was saying. I didn’t want to arue with anything else differ—there’s a complete difference between having an of where you get have sex with multiple men—murate whatever—versus having an stagram account where you post pictures of yourselves picking flowers outside. There’s a completely different—they still come to—they still coming to me. I understand what you’re saying about the intent, but that doesn’t have anything to do with what somebody chooses to do regardless. Yeah, but she’s not saying it does. I don’t care. She’s giv—what I was telling you does that—you were saying—does she—that’s what I’m saying—you cannot control—you cannot control what other people do with your—what I’m saying—you can control the type of content you create. Absolutely. I’m not disagreeing with that at all. Think—depending on the type of content you create online should 100% be a factor if a man has self-respect—if he wants to be with you in a romantic relationship. Okay, that’s your opinion, and I I don’t know why—self-respect—to be involved—like can’t can’t we just be a little bit less attacking? I would like—i’ like quite—I I thought you like being offended though, personally. No, but I’m—yeah, well, see, I’m being offended, so I’m replying to you uh so yes, I do like being offended, but I think sometimes self-respect’s a bit of a jugular. There’s going to be people—I don’t know if people watch this who are men who have girls friends—well words—English doing well um that people that watch this—but me—okay, people that watch the show who have girlfriends who do—yes. Well, if you are watching this and you’re a man and you’re dating a woman who does OnlyFans or porn and she has videos of herself online having sex with men—he’s going—my personal advice would be to break up with her post haste. Mercy buku. But why? And my personal opinion—I think my boyfriends have respect—let me—my—your two boyfriends—one gets one hole—the other gets the other—who don’t know about each other. Yeah, they have respect—they don’t have—they don’t have—hold on—I got s—on—but you started the podcast saying after they see this they’ll both probably dump me. Yeah, problems because you know they have enough self-respect to not want to be with someone who does what you’re doing. Yeah, one of them—the—that—I don’t think they’re going to agree with—sorry, I—no—mine was more—I think they probably going to agree with me where I think sharing—having two men—I think here’s the thing—I just hope that they might just um like my job because they know about my job already. I think it’s also a—sorry—I think it’s also a value—maybe a difference in value on relationships as well. Like if I was—if someone was dating two guys and announced it on a podcast with a ton of subscribers and knew that their boyfriends might see it and they didn’t really care—which I don’t—it doesn’t seem like you do—I don’t want to make that generalization—but if you’re doing this, you don’t care, then I don’t think that the value in relationships is there to—

Make that call. How much can you give a [ __ ] about these guys? If that's, you know, what I mean, that's what she's saying. How much could you possibly actually care about these guys if you're like, well, one had sex with my right hole, the other one with the left? They didn't even know about each other. Let me just let everybody in the whole world know that right now on this podcast. Well, well, more people know about it. I've got a [ __ ] massive mouth; I just talk. Sorry, I keep swearing; I do apologize.

You're so vulgar, so why don't you just tell both? Hold on, I got… that's [ __ ] disgusting. I am sorry. Sorry, back to the topic of cheating. I think like certain acts are obviously cheating, if you do them with emotion or without emotion; it's still cheating.

I agree. Well, if you can be emotionless and like cheat on your significant… Here's some more reasons why I don't think that men should date women who do porn and OnlyFans. Listen, you guys are wonderful women. You know, I've got the opportunity to meet you and talk to you—uh, not you, Mal. No, I was just going to say, can you include the fact… when you say men, men with self-respect… No, we're just going to say men. That's your opinion. You know what? Even—even men who don't have self-respect, I encourage you, from just a practical and pragmatic position, to not date women who do sex work because, one, you're opening yourself up to a greater likelihood of getting an STD.

Let… yes, yes, it's true. It's not… that's literally a very false statement. We have to get tested every 14 days. Congratulations. So, question: between those 14 days, do you wait until you get your STD test to have sexual intercourse with your partner? Probably not. Well, we have to both bring… SS to the… Can you kindly speak into the mic? Sorry, we both bring SS to… You can scoot into the table so it's a little easier. Um, so we both have to bring sets, so I'd have to bring sets and the person on set would also have to bring on set. What about your boyfriend? Okay, cool. So then… so… so what happens if the… what if the test gets a… gets a negative, a false negative, or what if the test… I don't know how it is in the UK, but in the US, they aren't testing—at least if you're like shooting in the uh, Los Angeles… what is it? San Fernando Valley… My understanding of the adult entertainment industry in the United States: you don't have to check for HPV and you don't have to check for herpes.

That's… that's your understanding of the… It's not just my understanding; it's a fact. I know what they do every… because everybody is not underneath a mainstream um, porn. Some of us do our own private… So when somebody comes to me… de… you have to have updated paperwork. Just like I'm bringing you… seven weeks I went down to such and such and got my paperwork. How… I mean, I have only two content partners; one was previously, and then I have one now. So whenever I switch to a new content partner, which is the guy, you know, I was having sex with, you know, doing him, and then the other one that I was doing, you know, my… my… I don't know… can I say the word, that word [ __ ]? Yeah, you can say… when I have my [ __ ] boy or whatever, when we do it, the guy, the other guy is him. So I have the clean paperwork. So it's not the same with everybody else, which, you know, their… your understanding is, but with mine, I want to see that. I want to see you don't have herpes and you don't have HIV. Saying like you have to request for those… Yeah, you have to request. Okay, so how many scenes have you done? Um, like you do traditional porn, correct? No, or you're doing like O [ __ ]? I do O, but I'm going into mainstream. Yeah. Okay, so can I jump in here? Who… sorry, can I jump in here? Okay, go.

So I personally know someone who… one of their close friends, they make… off content, and they were doing scenes with other people, and they contracted HIV. Oh, um… and this was just about a week or two ago. Because of… is not a professional industry; it's not held to professional standards, and a lot of these people are doing collaborations; they're doing scenes together, and they're not… But even if it was, it's really simple, right? The more sex partners you have, the more prone you're going to be to have an STD. It's that… it's that simple; it's not any more complex than that. Is… I mean, it… it's the truth. Nobody's… I'm not trying to refute that. It's easy; the more people you have sex with, it's easier to get, but that's not the same thing for a lot of people who are out here on a day-to-day basis and don't even get checked because they… they are… they think that their partner is the exception. But the exception proves the rule in this case. No, no, the exception proves the rule. So it's like, yeah, there's times where women who have sex with many partners may never get any type of STD, but you agree with me that the more sex partners you have, the more likely it's going to be, right? Yes, so that's going to be… I mean, but that's what I'm telling you. AOT for you to have the same thing with… if you're a construction worker, chances that you get, you know, a construction-related injury are going to be way higher, just because the field that you're in. So that's what he's saying; it's like your chances of getting an STD are a lot higher if your woman is having sex with lots of men. I mean, I agree with you; it's like wearing a hard hat though. So like, if you wear a hard hat, you're less likely to hurt yourself. That's why we turn up with sex, but you're still… so we're protecting ourselves. Yeah, sure, you can mitigate risk, but it's still more risky; that's the point. I mean, it's the truth. And you can also protect yourself and only have one or two content partners. We also don't know, honestly, like who else they're sleeping with unless they bring it up, and then… which is why I agree with the whole like… I agree with the fact with like O, it's like so much different; like it is a lot less professional.

I have a question for you that just occurred to me now. I'm just curious. Yeah, if you had HPV, could you have it in one of your reproductive organs and not in the other one? No, I think you'd have to have it in both. But on that point, I get tested for that every time, by the way. In the UK, you have to get tested. I have to swab both. Yeah. So could you, in theory…? I don't think so, because there… like it's like… I may… maybe, but I don't think so. Like, I did… you have whole specific STDs… I don't know. Like when I first went for my um, STD test, like when I was… when I first found out I was like, do I need two swabs? And the lady was like, "No, just put it in one and take out and put in the other." Did you lose your virginity twice? I did. I… I think so. I don't think that's how that would work. Well, I kind of think I did, because I did the whole like… I felt like I broke my hymen twice. Just… okay. So I mean, going back to my original point of just my advice to men, not dating sex workers uh, or women who do porn, especially porn with uh, other men uh, aside from just the STD risk, there's just also the reputational concern. So your family may frown upon it, your friends may frown upon it; there could be consequences for your children down the line if you choose to have children; they could potentially or very well likely be bullied. Because I feel like I'm starting to talk like Andrew here… You're… it's true. No, just the… the… the um… you… you know… the kids could get… could get bullied, and um… and also it's just… it's a good change, by the way. It's a good change. No, it's funny you said that because I've watched your previous, you know, shows, and that's the reason I came, cuz I thought you didn't do this kind of stuff, but now… like I didn't think that it would be like so much… I thought it would be like more calm and cool than just us like having like a little conversation. I didn't think it was going to be us versus, you know, these people. And I didn't think these people… What do you mean, these people? That side… everybody on that… it does happen to… as you stated earlier… our side versus your side. I said I was referring… I was just kind of like… No, I really didn't… I want to finish saying what I was saying, but yeah. So what I'm saying is, I… when you said that about the Adam, you know… cuz I really… so whose side of the table do you think is smarter though? Wait, let her… smarter girl… I'm… let me shut my mouth, just… here… go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go… go ahead. Go ahead. No, go ahead. It's 11… oh, it's 1:50. I said it's 11… 11 is crazy on the table and ask… please be… uh… okay. Anyways, but yeah, can we get security? Just… no. But from the other videos though, from the other… other videos, that's really why I sent you a message because I'm like, okay, he seems like a cool podcast to go on. Oh, wait, after I just said what I said… I'm not… I'm not… now that you… no, I thought you were when I seen it, but now that I… now that I'm here and the conversation is kind of going like… oh, you know, OnlyFans girls… is this… don't do this… don't… you know… I just seems off from what… off what? You mean like from what you used to do, you know, like on your podcast, which is… I mean, this kind of the bread and butter… your Instagram… well, the clips that you have on your Instagram is not putting us down, basically. It more so seems kind of upbeat; that's all I'm saying. It's a little different; doesn't seem like it's that contentious… her… one… my favorite… wait… okay, here, let me ask you… downplaying what we do? No, I'm not downplaying, but just act like I'm not downplaying… who's smarter? And that's from her, not… I didn't say that; that was her, but… dis… I disavow… her… her statement that… that was sarcasm. Sorry if you didn't pick up on… okay, so uh… I'm too stupid… remember… don't you guys kiss? I think that… but the way your makeup looks… yeah… all right… so personal attacks, guys. Okay, so uh… I look… I… I really… I invite OnlyFans girls and porn stars or whatever on the show. The time I really… I… I don't have a major issue with them as uh… you know, I don't have a major issue with you guys as… as people… as persons. I really actually don't even object that much totally to the work you do. I have perhaps some objections, but when it comes to dating—specifically dating—uh, I think it's a very sub… as a… whether it's me or other men, I think it's a very suboptimal move to date a woman who does porn or who does OnlyFans… dating or relationships… cuz dating is kind of like you go out… even casual sex, I would say… you wouldn't say… well, I have a very… maybe my standards are too high on this… maybe a woman… for example, the body count thing that we… that came up earlier… some guys say… some guys' standard is… well, if a girl has a high body count, I'll still have sex with her, but I'll never take her serious in a… in a long-term relationship. My standard is—and this is my recommendation for men who are watching—e… if she has a high body count, she doesn't get anything; she doesn't get casual sex, even… you might think, well, she's the ideal woman to have casual sex with… well, one, I'm not in favor of men having one-time casual sex with a woman, but to me, if… if… even if I was inclined to have a one-night stand or have casual sex, I'd much prefer… I would still prefer her body count to be low. I'd prefer her to be a virgin, even for a one-night stand, believe it or not, because this is a… this is really a societal norm. You guys want somebody who's fresh out, you know, who doesn't have… penis… I get that, but at the same time, it's… other guys in this world… it's 8 billion people on this Earth, and a lot of them… well, I'm not going to say a lot, but a… a little percent of men who love to be cucks, who love to be stags, who love to be… y'all don't understand it, but their… their brain is wired differently than y'all.

I agree with you, just like you guys don't think… okay, you know… a lot of people have been through stuff, so our brains… wait, did you say mental stuff? Yes. I'm not bringing nothing like that, but when your… your brain… you know… she's right; she's right. They do got mental stuff. When your brain… when you go through certain traumas in your life, your brain wires differently. I'm not bringing it up; I'm just saying your… true. This is the most based… this is so based. So you're saying cucks have mental issues? So… what I'm saying is… co… she's the new… whatever… co-host. I'm assigning you to the… whatever… podcast. You're my co-host now. What I'm saying is, yes, their brain is different than yours, because why would the societal norm… you… when you go from that… we… why do we go from the societal norm? It's a reason why you guys might not understand it, but when our brain is working in um… fight or flight mode… when you're in fight or flight mode, you adapt to what you can… you see what I'm saying? If I can jump in, and that's just for my perspective… me… can… if I can jump in here really quick… so are… are you saying… are you saying that cucks are a result of men being in their fight or flight mode? No, I'm not… I'm speaking only about myself. I have no idea… you're saying that due to various events, traumas, and environment, their brain rewire itself and it makes you act a certain way, which… me personally, I took it as an advantage. No, I don't want to go the same way everybody else wants… I don't want to go to therapy and… and live a life and be somebody's wife and do all this stuff. I've… I'm already tainted in you guys' eyes, but if you were to say the point… if you were to say what mental illness was… wouldn't you say that the… hang on, hang on… I'm almost done… you… you say that the easiest way for us to detect mental illness is deviation from standard norm? I mean, didn't they do that back in the day? Yeah, what do they used to do with anybody who was different from the normal? Well, I mean, I don't know… that just being different from the norm… look different… if you came out as a smaller person… if you came out… you… me… hang… hang on… hang on… just let me… let me just… let me finish the question. I'm just saying one of the easiest ways to identify mental illness is if there's a big deviation from the norm. I mean, that's… I would not say that because I didn't do any studies; I'm not a doctor; I'm only an LPN. I'm not going to say… I mean, how would you recognize a person who was crazy? Is there an easy way to recognize a person who's crazy where you're like, that [ __ ] is crazy? What… you… I've been watching the FBI shows; they say they show certain pictures and they… they do it… they say a person who just stared… I just mean from your… your perspective, when you're like, that fucker's crazy… what…? Tell… FBI say… they said… oh, sorry… they're saying like his… no, you're good. Oh, they're saying like his eyes is big or he does this… he works… I'm going to go with what they say; that's like profiling. I'm just saying you… that's when I go… yeah, but you… you personally, if you were to go… you're like walking down the street and you go, that fucker's crazy… he would have to be doing some [ __ ] that was way outside the norm, right? Yeah, and that's how you would identify it, right? So what Brian's saying is maybe it's mental illness because we can see that these are heavily deviated from the norm. I'm not… I'm just agreeing with her. I agree with her; she made a great… I just know that… I just know that it's the truth for a lot of people, and I know for myself alone… for me… I don't… can't say anybody else… been through things, but for myself, I know I'm the way I am, and I… I came to terms with it; that's why I just… you know… you're not going to make me think differently because you can't get me out of this state of mind. And look, a lot of women don't want to date me because of what I do; I get it; it's okay; it's all right. They don't want to date me because I'm a… I've got a toxic podcast, and it's fine; it's fine; I'm okay with it. I just think, you know, like dating… it's… it's a… you know… like I said, dating someone who does porn… no offense, guys… it's kind of subpar… it's like a pretty weak build. I don't know if you guys know World of Warcraft, but like… but like… I don't know… best in slot… it's going to be a girl who does… does… even have Instagram… best in slot though… like we'll accept an IG, but like… like kind of a shy girl, to be honest… like this… your date and profile you're doing, right? No, like he's giving you the OP build… this is profile, guys, right? Like, so if I'm like a mage, right? Like I'm just AOE… AOE farming these noobs… like… Blizzard, flame strike, cone of cold, Arcane explosion… like some guys don't care… don't forget fire… fire blast… some guys don't care about min-maxing their dating life, and that's cool; they're happy with an O girl and like having other dudes smack… smash their bird… but like… bird… you know… and bird… they bird… like… maybe they're just like… if you think about World of Warcraft Classic, right? They hit level 60… maybe they hit level 60, but they're just running five-mans, right? Just dungeon loot; they're just… they don't want the 99 parses on Warcraft Vlogs; they want to raid Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, Max Ramis, AQ40. They don't care about that; they don't care about the world boss loot, but I do. Okay, but these guys… they're in like… maybe… okay, fine… maybe they're in like a dad guild, and they're like wiping on Lucifron… they might wipe on Lucifron… like there's some noobs, right? Easy boss in Molten Core… first boss in Molten Core… they're wiping on him… like that's not me. I want to be like speedrunning Molten Core… 30… 30-minute clears Molten Core… no wipes… like 99% parses… pink parses… legendary parses… let's go. So virgin… virgin vagina for you? No… she doesn't have to be a virgin… earlier… no… I mean… low body count… that just has to be good loot. He said that… you did say that… you said you… a perver… a virgin… yeah… like if I'm… if I'm on my rogue, right? Like I definitely want uh… what's the… the ring from Ragnaros? Like I want… Premonition's Blade from Rag… I want uh… what's the ring that Ragnaros drops? Ragnaros… Ragnaros… uh… it's uh… not the Quick Strike ring; that's from the other… the… the earlier bosses in Molten Core… uh… well… okay… in Blackwing Lair, I want the Drake Fang Talisman… like that's bis for… through… KNX… Ramis… like you want [ __ ] the Drake Fang Talisman… and like… for me dating… I need another beer for this… anyways… could I weigh in about the Molten Core loot? Sure. So um… like back to like um… if I… if I was dating… not dating, but like… if I was talking to a guy and he had an OnlyFans… it's not as often… it's not as common as women, but if he had one, would I get involved? No… oh, no… there you go. No, I… I would not. It's just… and it's just my opinion, and I have to agree with what you said too, you know… everyone… everyone's attracted to different things; you know… everything plays out differently. There might be men that are… that like women like that; there might be women that like men like that, but as me, on a personal level… no… I mean, I even got rid of Snapchat because of how toxic it is; you know, I don't want to deal with that kind of stuff.

Interesting. And I mean, look, aside from the actual tangible things that you can point out that are negative things that are related to dating somebody who's involved in sex work, you also have to… some… question… what were the precipitating factors for them getting into sex work? And you mentioned it; there could have been past trauma… there could be uh… you know… mental illness… money… debt… money… well, sure, but uh… I can't say it was the money for me, honestly. Okay, sure. Uh, anyways, moving on to our next topic… let me get… oh yeah, let me just read this… David Kinser… Runway Maddie… they're… wow… you know… be nice guys… come on… they're going to eat you… and not in a good way… conf… me… my name is… the… wait… like… I mean, she looks… but we have… I'm not hungry. Okay, Maddie did… Maddie did make… she's very nice. Maddie baked uh… lemon-infused olive oil cake. Oh, there you go. All right, I didn't get the… okay, cool. Afterwards, you guys can have some later. Yeah, that was nice. We have S Mill here… 3x FNF Subs… you… R&D at level… bur… burkson… okay, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate your patronage. Appreciate the support. You got my name wrong though; it's not Buren; it's Bricken—B R I X A—and the X is… well, the X is silent, so I guess it's still Brian. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Okay, we're caught up on that. Uh, if you can pull up Twitch, guys, go to twitch.tv… whatever… drop us a follow… drop us a Prime sub if you have one. Thank you, guys. Appreciate the support. And also go subscribe to our Clips Chanel… Channel, guys. We're trying to get to 1 million subscribers. Oh, that is our merch… well, you can get our merch too… get our merch too if you want. Uh, that is our Clips Channel, guys. Go subscribe to our Clips Channel; we're trying to get to 1 million subscribers… or 75,000 away. We're going to go around the table here… actually… do I want to… wait… was there another video we were going to pull up? Uh… what video? Actually… hold on… hold off on that. I'm going to get into some of our pre-show notes here. Oh uh… okay, we'll get into that. So um… we… we… we talked about the… oh… Sweet Tooth… hey, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships; appreciate it, right? Um… let's see… going to… you… you… you said you were an OnlyFans model full-time for the last four years, but you also have a BA in philosophy and religion, and you wrote your philosophy dissertation on feminism. Yes, I wrote my philosophy dissertation on how Aristotle is a feminist, which is apparently physically impossible, but I wrote it and proved it to be true. Aristotle was a uh… a feminist. Yeah. So Aristotle was an ancient Greek philosopher who… basically… know that… per… oh, sorry… um… but yeah, I um… argued that his… with one line in his Republic… yes… no… that's Plato… oh my God… it's been five years… um… but with one line in um… one of his books that he believed that women were created um… with the ability for practical reason, so we were able to function in society, but society just hadn't given us the ability to like turn it on. So um… like with school, education… the way that we were involved in… in society… we weren't allowed to like activate our practical reason, and practical reason is what men had which allowed them to function… be politicians… have an education… lead societies… and be leaders. And I argued that he basically was like… society just hasn't given us the chance to activate it yet… turn it on… become like part of society in a practical wisdom way… but slowly… CU… obviously the more we've got involved in the world and movements and like things like the fact that we can sit here and talk about OnlyFans on a podcast like… is wild… and all things like that. So I just then argued that he was just waiting cuz his…

Society said that women couldn't do it, that he, his philosophy, actually allowed for us to be able to eventually okay, wait, do you know Socrates?

Yes. Did you write anything about Nick private chat? Did you you know anything about Socrates?

Do I? I did. You do any writing on Socr? Cuz wait, Aristotle was so it was it Socrates, Aristotle, Pluto? No, it went PL Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.

What was the order?

I think it's Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.

Yes, so Aristotle was the student of Socrates and Pluto?

No, no. So Socrates was not Pluto?

Plato. No, no, that's what I said. Okay, I said Plato. Sorry, English is my second language. Aristotle was the student of Plato, and Plato was a student of Socrates. I have a quote here, and I want all the women at the table.

Yeah, I was I was like, please tell me. I SP spent four years doing that. I want I want since we're talking about uh, you know, these ancient philosoph philosophical Jesus, oh my God, philosophical philosophical excuse me. Tongue-tied here. Nick, can you pull it up? You got to uh, trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will. Socr, what do you guys think about?

Agree or disagree?

Agree. Agree. Agree. Oh wow. Okay, this is Basse pound. Can we return to the feminism thing for a second because feminism, do you so definition of feminism in like is in in idea is that men and women are equal, correct? Do you not agree that Aristotle was saying the exact opposite of that?

Yes. Um, but he oh yes, sorry again. No, I just say so how is he a feminist if he's saying the opposite of that and he's, you know, we can't possibly decide for him. Um, so that's the whole how philosophical arguments work, so you take like a bit of text, which I took is that women have practical reason, but it is not auth like without Authority. Okay, so then I had to like philosophically analyze the word authority and how like Authority is society-given, so Aristotle was in a society where women weren't equal.

No, I get I get it. The hyp I know how philosophical arguments work. I totally understand. I was just asking, making sure the definitions were the same.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay, cool. Okay, so you're a feminist?

H yeah. I I feel like it's quite a harsh term, but yes, I feel like when you say you're a feminist, like people really think you're going to St yeah, I'm femous just yeah, which wave? Um, wait, let's give I think we need a seat booster. You want to get a seat booster, Madison? Keep keep going, keep going. Oh, um, I what I definitely not New Wave. Why? Because wait, can you push your mic that way? Sorry, it's fine. Just did they just go a little too far for you?

Um, they did actually. Um, I feel like everything like well, it's like the same with anything; there's always a minute group that go too radical and make everything look like crazy, and that's why sometimes I actually don't like saying I'm a feminist because you get as in the whole thing we've done today is discuss about how like we put people in boxes and judge them and like I'm I want women and men to be equal and like to live in tode.

Why? Because remember this is a philosophical argument.

Why? Well, because at the end of the day, like everyone deserves to be equal, no matter who they are.

That's not an argument; that's an opinion.

That is my opinion. Um, so why why? Because we're all human beings.

That's an opinion again, not an argument. Are we not are we not human beings?

But you're saying the reason why is because we're human beings. What does that have to do with anything?

Because we're the same species, and we should be treated with as the same. Again, it's an assertion. Now you saying should art so because we're humans. That's a philosophical argument. If it argument it would be a theory of science. That's an in that's an invalid argument.

It's invalid.

No, it's a if it's factually true and completely true, it would be a scientific. It's factually true when you throwing in an art. What makes it factually true?

Well, because we're not equal, so it has to be ought cuz if we were equal, I could say men and women are equal and everything is great, right? So why ought we be? Why ought we be? Because why on Earth should you be better than us?

What? That's a question, not an argument. I'm I'm responding with a rhetorical I'm responding with a question.

Yeah, but I'm looking for the the original argument before you give me the question for why we should be equal because we should be.

Oh, well, that's quite the argument. Why is the sun there? Because it is. That's a fact. It's a theory. What why shouldn't we be equal?

Well, that's a question. Why should that be a philosophical argument to make us equal? Okay, so should that's art, right? Art we be equal? I don't I hate K. That's not K. That is K. Should have not no yeah no it's just an art claim. Nothing to do with can't it is he made it. He made what the or claim? He can't made up Arts.

No, he didn't make up art arts. Okay, then why ought we be equal? Has nothing to do with Cy ethics. It has a bit to do with Cy and ethics. What? Yes. What? But I don't I can't like for me to come up with this philosophical argument about why we should be equal right now. I'd blood. You need to read about it. Do you think that men and wait wait hang on, this is a core belief you have. We should be equal. Why art we be equal? Because we're human. I don't really understand. You can laugh at me all you want. So should I be a construction worker if I put on a construction worker outfit? So but what your analogy is so um sorry um you can't answer a basic a like what do you mean by if you couldn't respond to my why shouldn't we be equal? So therefore it's the same thing. What would you respond asking asking me the question uh of why why why shouldn't X happen? That's fine, but before we do, can you respond to the actual odd question that you made, which is men and women should be equal?

Okay, great. Why? Why? I don't [ __ ] sorry, I don't know. I wish I knew. I wish I knew why we weren't equal and why people for men lowc is an indicator of commitment for women finding men with low BC is indicator of low chance of taking advantage of women. Both perspectives are respectable and valid. For wait for women finding men with low body count is indicator of low chance of taking advantage AG of women. Both perspectives are respectable and valid. Oh, Matt G, thank you, man. Appreciate your comment there. Well, I don't know if we linger too long on that. Perhaps we come back to it a little later. I don't think have an answer for that because at the end of the day, I just think I'm I'm sorry that I don't have a reason why I think women should be treated the same. I have one question on that, but then I'm going to move it on. That that doesn't seem insane to you that you don't have a single reason you can give for why you think men and women should be equal. Not one. What? I don't know why it isn't insane that I just think that can you tilt your mic down? Sorry. Um, ah Jesus. Um, I don't dud that's a bit too far. Oh my God, I'm doing so well. Okay, um, I don't know why it's insane for me to just think that because that just because our genders are different that we're not treated the same.

No, he's asking why.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I wish I wish I knew why we weren't treated the same. I wish I knew why the are we not? We are not. I I wish we were. Wait, question. Do you think so you're do you wish women got drafted? I was about I was about to make the I wish women got drafted. Treat them the same, right? Well, if a woman is I feel like if a woman wants to go into the army she should different. That's different. That's about a draft, forced military conscription. Well, yeah, I guess I'm going to make everybody equal. She's got to go. She I've got to go. But currently so off we go to war. We're not allowed to go because we're too feminine and we'll delay men. That's an argument, but I thought he wanted us to be equal.

That's a good reason why we shouldn't be equal cuz we're different.

Yeah, but C can you name why men and women are different then or why they should be different? Why should they be different? Yeah, you you can't think of any reasons why they're the same. So why should they be different? Why should they? I don't think they should be different either. I just think everybody should be treated equally, and I think anybody who wants to do whatever the blood the bloody hell should we treat criminals equal to non-criminals? Obviously not. Well, I guess you don't want people to all be treated equally. Well, I just I just want everybody to be so okay. Should prisoners have guns? I want all right people who live a moral people who live a moral life. There we go. Then should be treated equally. What's moral? Whatever the bud how you want it to be. Whatever you want don't so don't question in the name of equality. Don't feem isn't I need to look the statistic up to get the number right, but don't female content creators make more money than male content creators?

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Yes, we do. Yeah, probs. So what? So that's that's that's a inequality. Uh, no, there's just more women on there. A man a man can join. I mean, in total, I mean, I mean per per person because the clientele that go on to OnlyFans are after after something. So you're advocating for inequity there?

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Great. Then you just made the argument for why being Equitable and being equal is not possible. Why do we deserve to be paid less?

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that because of these distinctions. No, we still 22% here. Here's your philosop. That's not a true disparity. The wage Gap is not um it's not an actual disp afrian Americans to white or you talking about men men and women? Oh, okay, cuz I was about to say that, but go ahead. Could I have an opinion on this? So no, sorry, I just wanted to be polite. Just go ahead. Go ahead. So um I worked blue collar job jobs for the majority of my life. When I started working, it was mostly Blue Collar jobs. I got paid the same as everyone else did. Some people got paid a little bit more because they had more experience, but they were predominantly men. Can I ask you a quick question? How do you know everybody's pay?

I don't. Oh, okay. I don't know everything. Finish your go ahead. I just so I worked with my ex-fiancé, and that's his pay was better more than mine because he worked there longer than me, so it doesn't it doesn't I don't think it matters on gender in my opinion. It doesn't. I think it matters more on experience cuz there was a there was a woman there in the past. She made more than okay. We we've kind of ventured off into wage Gap discussion. I mean, really quick on the wage Gap since it came up, uh, I suppose it is somewhat Central to a lot of feminist arguments. Do you think female basketball players so WNBA should be they be paid the same as NBA players?

Absolutely not. It is the only God. Okay, let's start over here. Move around. Quiet you. Oh, I have opinions on this. No, no, no. I know, but just I okay. I do. I do. You think they should be paid the same? What about you, Madison?

No, I don't because of the um the advertisement. So uh the regular NBA, they get a lot of advertisement on their um, you know, when they're paying basketball and everything. The WNBA is not as much, so their the income would be a lot different, you know, because they don't fill up the stadiums like the NBA and all of that good stuff. So that's the only reason I say no, but if it was the same if they got the same endorsements, if they had the same fillment inside the stadium, yes, they should. That's all with the same fill inside like if they could fill up a stadium like how big Stadium.

No, they can't because it sucks. I mean, I don't know. I mean, a lot of people. I mean, it does, right? It sucks. It's not as fun to watch. I wasn't watching because I didn't really know about it like that honestly. Okay, so I mean, there's other components like merchandise sales and and other factors. You even if I think the WNBA could fill a stadium, there's still other components of the money that the respective but anyways um okay. What about you?

Um, it's this the same point really isn't it? Unfortunately, there's not there's not enough support for female Sport, and that's why that they can't fill the stadium. They can't make the money, so they can't get the same endorsement cuz there's not enough support for it.

I agree on both on what they say. Yep. Go ahead.

Yeah, I I also agree, and I believe the WNBA is the only industry that is in the negative as far as profits go every single year, and the only reason it is still funded, I believe, is due to legality of if they fund a male sport, they also have to send the equivalent funding to the female sport, but it's it's not that but you do make a really good point that the so the NBA subsidizes the WNBA. So yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, anything else or no? I just think it's I didn't mean to cut you off there. I just wanted this side. I wanted to start on that side and come around. What about you?

No, I don't think they should be paid the same for the same reason for the ad advertisements okay and everything else. Wait, so okay, going back to you, you said go back to me. You said so you said they should be paid the same. I honestly feel like they do simply because of the reasons that everybody is stating because they don't like history. I feel like it's the reason why they push more for the male sport than the female Sport, and since it's been that way, it's going to continue to be that way. There's never been I feel like there's not a bigger push for women's sports than like women's basketball regular.

I I've got a question for you. Oh, go name name three. I want you to name three WNBA players. Name three NBA players. Oh, that's easy. Um, LeBron James, Paul Pierce, Kevin Durant. Oh, keep going. You sounds like I mean, I can name more, but okay. Oh, you want me to keep going? Keep going. Oh my God. Uh, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, um, Alan Iris uh shoot you no one are here's the thing. It's like I think it's actually the case that even for women's at least for the N the WNBA actually a fairly decent portion of their viewership is men. It's not even so women just aren't watching sports. I don't feel like I was pushed to watch it enough push to watch like I feel like it wasn't like you guys said it's not enough advertising for WNBA than it is for NBA like you you know how big have you ever seen have you ever seen WNBA game on TV?

Yeah, they suck, right?

No, they don't suck. There are some there are some good women black they they're okay, but they suck. I don't think they suck. I just think they're not they're not covered enough. Do you think that if you had an all women's football team that that would be nearly as entertaining to watch as the NFL because it would be as aggressive and as you know, we want to see these guys knock the [ __ ] out of each other. I wanted to advocate for all women's football team. See, I don't feel like a certain Sports women should play, and football is one of them. So they're unequal in sports. Yeah, I never disagree with that though. You had something quick. Uh, yeah, interesting fact actually. Um, I can't remember what year, but I think it might have been last year that the women's English women's football team got into the World Cup final and the men didn't, and it wasn't even advertised in our papers. You remember that time that the they didn't make it, but it's just like interesting to see cuz they're quite good at they are quite good at football, but our football isn't our football soccer. They're not it's like no no they're not they're not quite good at football. You remember what happened when the high school team took on that big I don't remember what the team was, but it was a high school soccer team which took on National National. Okay, they do this in various countries. The the Women's National Team so the best players from all the clubs get scorched by 15-year-old Hot Boys. Yeah, soccer players. I mean, brutal, and they mess with them. These are like the best of the best, and there's like 15-year-olds, and they're just you know, knocking the soccer ball back and forth, playing with them, kind of giving them the fingers. They run it down. You know what I mean? They they kick it into the goal. They kind of laugh at them. It's pretty fun to watch actually. You should check it out. As in so your national soccer team or like the players from across the world? I'm I think I'm is it like players from across the world or is it just your National National? So as in like the American national team. Okay. Well, I was talking about the English national team. They're quite good. The the American national team was quite good as well. I didn't win the World Cup. Well, we did well. It's kind sorry that wasn't even a mean point. I wasn't even trying to be mean there. Like that wasn't it's kind of like women winning the Special Olympics like you're still W it's the comparison at point. It's like not skill level. It's men versus women. 15-year-old boys don't cancel me. Okay, let me do a couple chats here. We have F we're going to come back to the feminism stuff. Yo, good evening. Brian B takes didn't understand 90% of the stuff you mentioned about World of Warcraft, but I played it close to a decade ago, and godamn do I want to play it again after all that. Andrew equals w i don't play uh I don't play anymore, but uh you know it's uh it's out there if you want to go play it. And by the way, uh shout out to uh Nemesis for uh it's the band of Aura from ragnaros that's the ring that Rogues want.

Band of Aura. Thank you. Is we have at least HC. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. So if all humans ought to be equal, does that apply to unborn ones too? Okay, good question. Tre treading into dangerous territory here, but why not? You can choose your left or your right uterus. When do they when do they be are when are they considered human though? When is The Unborn Child considered human?

Conception. Well, this is a good question. We would say we would say a conception. Who would Christians would well yeah, I mean Christians I mean okay because it meets because it meets because it meets the criteria for biological life. Okay, so is do you consider that answer to be subjective then?

No, I don't think it's subjective. I think that we would always air on the side of life. So I mean always. So I think it's a subjective metric from the other side. I think the other side it says well we don't know, so we just whenever we feel like it. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's the way I I see it. Did you get to respond to the message or oh I love okay all right. No, it's okay. Um, I believe when happens so okay all right. Well, no, I got it. Um, I believe it's when it's brain function. When their brain begins to function, that's when human life begins, and then I think that's when it's wrong, which is quite early on actually. Does this mean that if somebody's in a coma or or some or they have some kind of like detriment to their brain function that it's okay to take them out or well no because if they're in a coma their brain is still does their brain just not function? What if they're brain dead, but maybe it could be rebooted at some point with technology? Is that still a human? That's a that's question isn't it? Um, I just feel like I don't um yeah, if they're brain dead, they're brain from the nursing perspective. If they have brain activity, they aren't brain dead, so we can't they're not going to pull the plug on them, but if they have organs that shutting down and them without the machine would cause them to die, then yes. Yeah, I get it. So so then what sort of brain activity would be a requirement for it to be a baby? That was going to be my next question. What was your opin you you wanted to well I was just going to ask because you're saying when the brain starts to function, but what are you basing that off of? Is that your own personal opinion?

No, like there's like stages of the pregnancy and the brain and the Heart stuff doing that stuff, um, and that's when I think that that's a little baby, but it's literally it's but you said That's you think um pardon sorry, what did you say? I'm just trying to understand because you said that's when you think it's a baby and it's consider human. Um, unfortunately, we have to make that decision if we're not going to do life at conception. You have to decide when, and I would say then that it would be wrong to terminate. When does the brain start functioning? I I cannot tell tell you off the top of my head, but there is like St stages, and they're like literal stages in the pregnancy, and it's quite early on. VI does it need to be fully functioning? Like what if the kid is going to be born with a with a really really low IQ for the rest of her life? Just because they have a low doesn't mean they don't have a brain.

Well, it does, and here's why because could be that their brain function is different than a normal kid's brain function, right? So you're saying it's when we get brain function. I want to know what kind of brain function.

Well, when you can when you read brain function on the ultrasound, I feel like that's that's the only way you're going to tell.

Just any kind. Any kind. Yes, I'll go with any kind of brain function. Y any kind of brain function. Okay, what's it called when you put the buzzer in?

Final answer. So okay, great. So why is brain function the important thing? Because it starts the heart to beat, doesn't it?

It starts the heart to beat. Yeah. Why is that the important delineation for when you consider it life?

Because it's going to have brain function, right?

Yes, and heartbeating. So they work together to pump life. Yeah, but it's going yeah, but what I'm saying is it's going to have brain function, so you are artificially stopping it from having brain function, right?

Yes, I am artificially shopping it for H PR. Yeah. Why? Why is that okay? Um, because there are things called unplanned pregnancies. There are situations in which you do not want to have a child. There are conditions in which I'm not allowed to say on this podcast that you don't want to have a child, and I think it's you are more than entitled to terminate life if you feel like you need to, and I feel like if you braction and if you can say before brain function, it makes the woman that's doing it feel a lot less guilty, and I don't think we should make women feel guilty for terminating life. So let's say brain function starts at 3 weeks. Let's just say it start let's just say it did. It starts at 3 weeks. If I'd like the exact time, I'm going to tell you why it's important. Just give me a second. Let's just say it started at 3 weeks. Just we'll just assume it for a second. Okay, and

This was an SA victim. Didn't find out until week six, right? Could the SA victim terminate then?

Well, I think… well, that's a difficult one, isn't it? I think you… every… I don’t know, because you just got done telling me that if the brain’s functioning, the brain is functioning, it’s a human. But every situation you have to take it into account. It’s a case-by-case basis. You can’t just be like… as you love to generalize life and everything, you can’t generalize.

I’m being hyper-specific.

Yes, I know, and I’m saying you have to take it case-by-case basis with… I just gave you the case. Here’s the case: the case is the brain function. You didn’t know you were pregnant and it was from an… baby. Then she doesn’t have to have that baby. Well, then the brain function… what you’ve just said is it’s a human being when there’s brain function, and to terminate it would be murder at that point, and you just advocated it’s okay to murder a kid.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. I think that’s more than fair. If I have… I have one question on this. Um, so your position is a woman should have the right to be able to…

I’m pro-choice.

Yes.

Yeah. Question for you, um, kind of sort of related to that. Um, let’s say a man doesn’t want to be… for the exact same… some of the exact same reasons that you listed out. Say he’s not financially ready, he doesn’t want to be a father yet, he’s not in a place in his life… whatever the reason may be, but primarily he’s not financially ready, and he just isn’t… maybe emotionally ready to be a father, and I think you cited those as some reasons why women should, could, or would have an abortion. Um, what I kind of… I preempted myself here. I question… so… but… but so a guy… a guy gets a woman pregnant, right? And she… let’s say she wants to keep the kid, but he has all those financial and emotional concerns. What would you say to him? If you had a male friend who got a woman pregnant under those circumstances, what would you say to him?

Um, so you can’t obviously force someone to have an abortion, but at the end of the day, I think there should be like… she… there should be a discussion that’s had with him and said partner. Because if he’s not financially ready to support… she… then can’t you… and she wants to have the baby, and he’s like, “I don’t want to…” she had… if she has the right to terminate and not keep, he should have the right to be like, “Actually, I’m not ready for a baby. I don’t think I can do this yet. I don’t want to be involved.” And that’s… but that’s all he can do, because he can’t force her to have a baby.

Sure. But you do… you do acknowledge that while the state… I don’t know… I believe abortion is just wholly available in the United… the UK, correct? Um, so the state would… despite her saying, “Well, you know… uh… I… I understand, you know, but I’m going to keep the kid,” and he doesn’t want to be financially involved, the state would then force him into fatherhood and would force him to… at… at minimum… uh… pay child support to the woman.

Well, actually, I’m not familiar with child support laws specifically in the UK, but I’m assuming it’s fairly similar… yeah… where you would be compelled to pay child support despite your lack of… so… but I mean, what do you say to a man in that position? So… do you say that… I… I wish I could… but what would you tell him? Would you tell him, “Well, tough; you should have thought of that before having sex”?

Probably as a joke, yes, but not seriously. But I would like… I’d love there to… I wouldn’t love for there to be a law involved, but I think if a man doesn’t want to have involvement, that is sad, but there should be… why is it… but it’s sad for a… it’s sad for the… it’s sad for the child eventually, because that child’s dad didn’t want them. That’s always going to be sad.

Would you make that same argument for a woman who gets an abortion?

Yeah, it’s sad. Okay. All right, that’s fair. And it’s also… women go through a lot of pain when they do that. It’s very… it’s a… not one… but you said… you said there should be a law where men can… when… almost like waive the right to pay child support if they don’t want to be involved.

Think… I mean, my personal position on this, in any state where uh… abortion is legal, I think men should have a corresponding right to…

I agree. I completely… it’s called legal paternal surrender, where they basically relinquish any sort of uh… par… paternal rights… parental rights, and by extension they don’t have to be obligated to pay child support.

But can they then get back involved? So say in like 10 years’ time they’re like, “[ __ ] I actually really want…” I supp… they can negotiate anything. They can negotiate anything with the… the mother, but if… yeah, I’m not sure on the specifics of reconciliation.

% agree with you. I think… okay. All right, that’s fair. They should be allowed… you know what… you know what I actually think? I think people who are pro-life actually… you might actually convince some men to join your cause if you were to say, “Well, we’re going to push through legal paternal surrender uh… as part of like some, you know… uh… you know… uh… cooperative…” I like… for… for pro-choicers, I feel like there should be something like that in place. I don’t think it’s fair… like… “fair” is probably not the right word, but I don’t… don’t think it should all lay on the mother’s shoulders. Actually, cuz it is like a big burden to take on a whole person. It’s a person. Like, Dad is a… that’s 18 years of parental responsibility, like from day dot. And then like… I’m 25; I still borrow money off my mom, so I’m still a massive financial burden.

A… for life. A… for life. Let’s uh… we’ll move on a little bit here. We have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10. We’re going to start with you, and we’re going to go around the table. Able, why don’t you go ahead?

I’m a nine.

Sure. Okay. Manson?

An eight.

I’m going to rate myself a 10.

Uh… seven.

Five. I’ll say seven.

Um… I’m abdicating. I’m not doing this.

Oh, come on. Come on. Well, it’s like… anyone who’s been asked to… it’s… it’s a… it’s a… it’s a… what… it’s a… it’s kind of like a paradox, right? We’re being asked a question that would be subjective based on other people’s opinions. Like, if you rate yourself a one, you’re kind of a… pikme. If you rate yourself a 10, you’re narcissistic. And I’m just… I… I… I… I… I don’t mean that in general. I mean what people’s opinions are. Okay, just one number.

Why do you think I picked five? I’m right in the middle. Yeah, I felt like I was like… I… I was like…

Seven’s good. Hey, I think… I’m not here to care about what anybody else would possibly think. I could lose some… for me, it’s… it’s… I don’t care about what anybody else thinks. He said rate myself… how do… when I look in the mirror, how do I think that I feel about me? A 10.

Well, it’s not how you feel about you; it’s like if you make your own assessment… like if you… if you intellectualize, you try to make an assessment of like… if I’m comparing myself to other people and like… am I where I want to be? But that’s not how I was rating myself though. I was just rating myself off of… you said, you know, your looks on the scale of 1 to 10… exactly. That’s all I was doing… not compared to how she looks, or if she’s thinner than me, or if she’s shorter than me. It’s not about that. Because you might not like me being a big girl, but it’s… guys who actually love plus-sized women… every… you know what I mean? It’s not… everybody’s perspective of beauty is not the same. So yes, you might not think I’m a 10. The societal norm is… be… th… that it is what it is. I’m a 10. So if… if I… if I concede that there may… very well will be some men who view you as a 10… MH… if we were to take a cross-section of like, say, 100,000 men, some of which might think you’re a 10, some of which might not… some might going say three, some going to say two, some going to probably even say zero… what do you think the average would be?

I have no… who… I mean, it depends on where I go. If you take me to the suburbs, they were going to give me a zero. You take me to the hood, it’s different. You feel me? So wherever you take me… it’s… wherever you be… you feel me? Like… it’s… that’s it. So yeah… Andrew, what do you rate yourself on a scale of uh… one to 10?

Four.

I… give… don’t do… and… true… don’t believe… like you got your hair… all… you got your hair all… dead… you groom nice… you know what I mean? You don’t even have any lint on your shirt… like there’s no way… you just… just… I don’t know… don’t take you as a kind of guy… like I’m going around… what do you rate yourself?

Oh, me? Yeah, on you now. Five.

Give myself a five.

What? Why you didn’t give yourself a five? An average white guy?

No, I agree. I… you… up… did you just say, “I agree”? Everyone… I do… I agree… is crazy.

I agree with you.

No, I wouldn’t put you in an average white guy.

Goddamn, you have a problem with me agreeing with you?

No, not at all. Because if… if you genuinely think you’re a five, why would you get offended that I wasn’t offended?

Okay, my bad. I just thought I… what… okay. Well, you know… you agree… I’m a four, actually. No, I wasn’t… I’m not really… no, I think I just thought it was funny. I wasn’t… I wasn’t offended. My… my bad.

Ages… well, you know… it’s also the same thing for me. I’m an average white girl. I’m bigger, you know. I’m not skinny, but I’m average… average white dude… I could be a six if I lost a bit of weight. I got a dad bod right now. I could be a six.

No… ST… put… sexy… I’m sorry. I stand for a dad bod, not me trying to hit on you. Sorry, that was not what was happening… the show… uh… but okay. So we have… you said nine, correct?

I did.

And you said 10. Guys, please don’t take this… the wrong way.

Of course not.

Oh, I don’t care. People come and call me ugly, fat… I think your self-assessments are erroneous… erroneous… incorrect… based on… on you… on where you were born… you know… based on an average white guy of… right… not my jiggle doesn’t look good to you, but my jiggle looks good to them. So it’s cool. It’s cool. I’m not offended. Trust me. I’m not everybody’s cup of tea, and it’s never going to be… I’m never going to be everybody’s cup of tea ever. So I don’t think anybody’s ever going to be everybody’s… exactly. So I wouldn’t be… hear what he has to say. Oh, go ahead, finish. Sorry, I’m sorry. Say it, Brian.

Well, uh… I guess uh… I mean uh… you guys are like uh… you’re average-looking… of course, you know… you’re average-looking to you… to you… and I’m being… I feel like I might… you know… perhaps being uh… a little generous.

Oh, can I ask the men at this table to rate the women? I don’t know if that’s too toxic.

Well, I mean… I don’t… so you’re being generous by saying I’m average-looking? It’s okay. I might be… it might… he’s a white guy in his 30s… of course I’ll rate every chick here if I can.

One… one… one… I’m one and one too. He’s married. That is what we like to hear from married men.

Oh yeah. Oh, it’s cuz he’s married, guys. It’s because… it’s because he’s married. He only has… for his wonderful wife… two… or… five. I couldn’t help it. I couldn’t help… don’t worry. Wow. I’m not going to get enraged by anybody’s opinions of me. Okay, I get it all day, every day.

Do you mind rating the women at the table?

I feel like it’s kind of rude to actually give somebody a rating. I… I consent to being rated.

Wait, so… is… nine… I… foret… eight… eight… 10… seven… seven… five… five… seven… seven… I didn’t… she refuses… she omits… um… I don’t… I will rate if… okay, I’ll only do it if each of you individually give me permission to rate you… you… or… not permission, but you say you’re fine with me giving you an actual number. You’re okay with it?

I am.

Maddie?

I don’t care.

Obviously. No. You just call me below average, so it’s no need for you to give me a number today.

Okay. She doesn’t want… yeah, I’m cool with it. Go for it.

Oh god. Well, you said okay… not a poor sport… uh… I’m… oh [ __ ]… remind me… video… generous… cuz that’s what you said you were being… yeah… so… honest… and… what… what do you guys say? Put it all out there on the table.

Okay. All right. Uh… so… okay, I’m going to do like a… a… what’s… oh [ __ ]… what’s the… what’s the word… a… too much trouble… what I’m… get in trouble… somebody hand you a… sh… generalization… this is going to be like a holistic assessment here. So… what is a…

H… we went from a rate to a holistic assessment. This is going to be like… holistic.

Thank you. Okay, so… um… I think uh… you know… you’ve got like a kind of aesthetic face, you know… now… I think uh… am I going to get in trouble if I… what is an aesthetic face? Like you got your fa… is it… it’s good, you know… I mean… just… better… I think… I was fine with numbers. He wants to go there, so let’s go there. Listen, uh… I feel like I’m going to get clipped here.

You are. I hope you do. I actually… I don’t think I should give my reasons for my rating. Maybe I should just go ahead and give the rating… that I don’t want to come off as the r-word. So… what [ __ ] ends with a… te… so… ends with a…

Mhm.

I want you to tell me what you were going to say because like… I’m not worried about nobody.

I said you don’t want to come off as that… racist. Yes. Why is that the r-word? I thought the r-word was [ __ ].

I thought he said a couple words we couldn’t say. You’re definitely saying the word, but wait… what… oh… oops… oops. I get a pass because I am… I am the r-word.

Okay. Oh, you are. I get a pass. Okay. I figured you were when I looked at your page and I see… his… not… not the word that ends with one… I get a… I get… I… oh… she thought you… oh… that would have been bad. No, I’m not a racist. I am not… I am not a racist. I apologize for that comment. I… I get the pass to say the word because I am… wait… what word are we talking about now?

R… r… t… a… r… d… e… d… there’s just so many words… I’m actually clinically [ __ ] based. Okay. I totally believe you. Checks out. Um… I think they’re trying… I would never… I would never… to… I’m a nice guy. I would never… just don’t do it. I’m a nice guy. I don’t think he should… I think he should… she was… she… she said it was okay. I asked you to rape me. She asked me to… cancel yourself here today. Well, why would I cancel my… why would… like… this… me… video? I don’t want to get… can… I don’t want to get… C… just… I’m just going off of what you said. Just go with the number, don’t explain it. Is… I don’t think it’s a cancelable offense. Done it before… when solicited to rate somebody… ju… oh, that’s right. Yeah… Jubilee… they’re fine. Okay. All right. I… 2.5.

Wow. 2.5. Hey… brutality… uh… do you have fake titties?

Yeah… new one… four days… like a 4.5.

4.5. 4.5. Did the two vaginas inform your rating at all?

That’s… it’s neither here nor there. I think… had a little bit of influence… just a little bit.

Uh… it’s okay, sweetheart. 3.5. Okay. And then… mik… Malik… Malik Maan… mik… uh… five. And then… Andrew Wilson’s a 10 out of 10. Absolutely. The Brotherhood wins again.

Okay. The patriarchy wins again. Okay. Good talk, everybody. Miss one… she said she didn’t… oh… she didn’t want to be rated… so… uh… I… I mean… oh, you’re fine with me rating… I… I really… I… I was… her… she just skipped over… I didn’t want to make my own opinion. I think we need another seat booster. Oh, can you scoot your mic that way? I feel like your face is getting a little blocked off.

Uh… which one?

Yeah. I’m not going to rate you. She didn’t rate herself. I’m sure the chats rated all of us already. Coms… like maybe 6.5 or seven.

Amazing. There you go. Yeah, there you have it. Oh yeah, okay. The only 10 here is Kiki back there. I don’t know if we can get a zoom in on… can you just… there she is… look at her… she’s such a… what happened to her kneecap? Knee… be… he didn’t want to run away. She’s only 10 here. That… go… B… to watch… put… she put in real work… but okay. Really quick, just to wrap up on this. Yeah, 10… n… don’t you think it’s a little delusional… a little hubris to say I’m… I’m perfect… in your case… and I’m nearly perfect in your case?

I mean, I don’t see it as… see… I feel like people take rating differently. Like me saying I’m a nine… I don’t see that as me saying I’m nearly perfect. I’m rating a lot of different things about myself… looks being… yeah… well… no… no… no… no… but the question is looks… rate your looks… just looks… that was the question. I’m pretty as [ __ ], and I… good for my body. Yes, it’s still a nine. So… wait… but you said it’s going to always be a nine?

Oh, okay. Cuz it sounds like you… I’m not going to say 10. I’m not perfect. I’ve never been perfect. Nobody’s perfect. All right. Okay. Are you trying to argue my rate… my own personal rate? I thought that’s what I was doing this whole time. I don’t know why I thought I was already doing… you asked me to rate myself. You didn’t ask me to compare myself against your rate.

Oh, yeah, word. How do you think society would rate you?

Oh, I don’t know, and I don’t care. How about… how do you think I’m going to be on… Amer… soet… y… have… yeah, I was about to say 100,000 frat boys… bro… they’re going to give us… come on now… now… come on… wa… first off, I know some… no… wait… let me just… I’m going to gas you up. I’m going to gas you up. I’m going to gas you up real qui… let me know… Maddie… she knows… we… this is UCSB… we’re in the UCSB area… and I know some frat boys that I could link you up with some tonight that would… the gobbler… they… fat boys… no… no… they don’t mess with us.

Oh, they mess with you?

No, I mean, they do actually… online… but in person… no… yo… if there’s any… never had boys at UCSB watching right now… [ __ ]… what are some frats? Madison, just list… there’s a Sig… Sig… Sig… kig… kig… I don’t know… that’s all I know. Yo… [ __ ]… DM us boys. I’ll get you linked up with these two beautiful ladies tonight, and you guys can have… they’ll invite you to a frat party and you…

No, I don’t do meat. Sorry.

Well, no… no… no… not like… they just want to party with you and like… kick it and do… PE… peyote… I ain’t here to party.

What you here for?

I’m here to get… stand on business.

Oh [ __ ]… she’s here to get… you know what though… they might… okay… you better dip into them funds… them college funds.

I ain’t got nothing else to do with that. They’re all broke.

Word. Okay. We have the ranger here. Andrew, right? Is just another word for freedom. Freedom can be measured and has consequences.

No… right’s not another word for… for freedom… is this… to what you were saying last time or something?

I think so… when we were talking about… and stuff. All right… for freedom… that’s it. Okay. All right, here… let’s get into… oh… videos… let’s do… we got two actually… before that… twitch… uh… we’re going to do Twitch… twitch.tv… whatever… mods… if you can spam it… drop us a follow… in the prime sub if you have one… and then go to our Clips Channel… get us to 1 million subscribers, guys. We’re so close to 1 million subs… get us there, boys. Okay. Okay. Uh… we’re going to pull up a video, Nick. It’s the one of the videos… it’s uh… not the boat one… it’s the uh… the two girls or something.

Yeah. Go full screen with it. Sorry… every time I just hit two girls and some… oh god… your head just caught… no… oh… can you uh… drag it to the beginning? Yeah… when he says, “Do you want to come over?” And the girls are looking a little… verse… come over. Okay. And they’re doing some cringe [ __ ]… TikTok dance. Okay. Uh… so it’s… “Do you want to come over?” Question versus… “Come over.” Actually, Nick, can you pull it up? And I want to read the comments uh… on… on that… should I pull the comments up?

Yeah. Just go out of full screen, and there’s some comments on there that I just want to read… maybe the top few.

Oh yeah, make it… put this on the other side and make it bigger. I can’t read… uh… okay. I don’t… I don’t understand… make it a little bigger… scroll up… I don’t understand why I always end up dating [ __ ]. So this is why there’s so much confu… okay… guys… taking notes… be like… okay… half… no manners… got it… plot twist… unless he’s physically not attractive enough, then he’s creepy by not asking… asking them in 10 years… why is there no good men? Take notes, guys. They do not want a gentleman. Unfortunately, we want independence… same… women… give us instructions… give women orders… not suggestions… noted… I will not allow them free will to decide… they… hey… okay… um… uh… and that’s pretty much uh… it… so… okay… you guys’s thoughts on the little TikTok… maybe not the comments so much, but the actual uh… YouTube video… do you guys… okay… do you prefer a guy… would you prefer a guy to say… what did he… what was the first one? “Do you want… do you want… do you want to come over?” Versus a guy just saying, “Come over”? Or does it not matter?

It depends, for me.

Uh… how so?

If it’s a guy that I’m pursuing as far as like… dating, I would definitely prefer you to ask me. Um… if it’s somebody that I’ve been dealing with and I’m used to you and I’m comfortable with you, I’m kind of cool with the “come over,” um… just because we already have that dynamic. Um… but yeah, most of the time I would like you to be polite and ask.

I don’t think it’s that deep. Like, I’ve never really thought too deep into that, but I get why they think that the “come over” is more appealing because they want guys to be like, “I want you to come over,” you know what I mean? I don’t know. I don’t get it though. Um… for me, it really don’t matter. I know for the video though… wise… it looks like they’re um… it looks like they just want the more assertive guy, you know what I mean? Who says just “come over.” That’s what it seems like to me.

Okay. Um… so for me, like when I first watched a video, I was like, “Yeah, I get it. Like, it’s… it’s sexy when a man’s like, ‘Do this.’ But then I read the comments, and I was like, “[ __ ] actually, like… it’s kind of… kind of [ __ ] up… no consent.’” And I’m like, “[ __ ] yeah, they didn’t really ask my permission.” But so it’s a hard one because it’s like… that… I think the no-consent ones are a bit of a stretch. Like, that’s a bit of a stretch, but the ones where it’s like… but I get it… like in the sense that I used the wrong one, but like… I get where like… they got where they were coming from. I was like, “I would like that to be said to me,” but then I also do realize what that’s actually putting off when that’s not what my intention would have been to put off.

I just want like, a manly man in my head; that's what a manly man would do. But maybe actually, I'm like you people; do you want so maybe asking is actually better now that so the comments changed my complete perspective. This is super simple; it's like when you ask a woman, "Where do you want to go to dinner?" The worst—it's the worst [__] idea on planet Earth. Question definitely. To what you do is you say, "Here's where we're going to dinner." That's the same thing as this: "Come over." It means the same thing. Don't ask them what they [__] want; we're going here, and that's it.

Your thoughts? Yeah, no, um, the "Do you want to come over?" I love that way more. You know, I love—I love the validation, the reinsurance. Go for it. Uh, I actually disagree with most of them, so maybe this is just based on how I was raised, my culture, but I think that the man should be dominant; the man should be assertive; the man should lead the woman, and obviously with consent, but the woman should want to submit to her man. So I personally prefer when men, um, just say, "Hey, we're doing this," "Hey, come over," "Hey, do you want to do this?" versus being all timid and kind of submissive: "Hey, do you want to do this?" "Hey, where should we go for food?" I prefer when men know what they want, and like I said, obviously there's like, the consent was stretching it, um, but I prefer for men to be dominant and confident.

I think that social media builds in really weird tests for relationships, expectations. Like, I—I—I—I think that a guy can be an alpha and, you know, have male leadership and still say, "Hey, would you like to come over?" You know, you can be like an alpha male and have manners. And I think to me, it correlates with—have you guys seen the orange peel theory on social media where they're like, "Oh, basically it's like if you won't—if you—oh, can I have an orange?" And then it's turned into this whole, you know, "If you won't peel an orange for me, you don't love me." Oh wow. So and I think it's crazy. I mean, we're—we're referring to social media, not we, but you know, but people refer to social media as again, societal norms, things that are good that we want, and these—it's to me, it's hard with how young these girls look. You know, I can never figure out how old people are anymore because nobody has an awkward stage, unfortunately. Where do they go? Like, yeah, like I—that hit me like a ton of bricks. I just caught the character, you know, way it—it builds character; it's good. I'm glad I'm 25, but like, you know, it's just these young girls placing these, you know, expectations, and for them to be advocating for a domineering—and if they're not old enough or don't understand what actual male leadership looks like, it can be an actually very dangerous expectation. You know, I think that there's—there's a middle ground between, you know, wanting your—wanting your man to be a beta, wanting him to be your bestie, or wanting him to be like, whatever. I think that's kind of a weird thing too, that's on social media, but there's a middle ground between that and like, "You need to come over," and I think that, um, most people would call that healthy.

I don't believe that "Where do you want to go to dinner?" any more than any of the rest of them do. This is—I never said I knew where I wanted to go to dinner; never know. There's another trend about that where guys would be just be like, "Oh, like, guess where we're going for dinner," and the girl will say something, and then he'll just be like, "Okay, that's where we're going; that's great." That's different to me than the comparison of like, smart—you know, I guess it's also in context. These girls at this young age looking at like domineering behaviors between—not if someone was like, "Hey, do you want to go to, you know, I don't know, Chipotle?" It—it—it gives an answer. I think most women would be like, "Cool, dinner decided; amazing!" Yeah, then you have the whole menu to live through too. These girls only want people or men to say "come over" only if they like really [__] like them, right? Any other guy—any other guy putting them in trouble. If it's—it—it—it depends a lot on whether or not the woman is physically attracted to the man and then if she is interested in them. Because if it's just some random guy that maybe she finds creepy or maybe she finds ugly, has come over, she's going to be creeped out by it and not want anything to do with them. Absolutely. So what about context? Isn't that they only want that if they want? Step one: be attractive. Step two: don't be unattractive. Basically, don't ask people if they're peel an orange for you.

Well, it's really interesting though, because like the exact same behavior in treatment that a woman might deem creepy in one man and flirting or desirable in another man really just breaks down to whether she finds that man attractive or unattractive. 100%. So the same behavior—like if he's unattractive, it's creepy. Now look, there's some things that are just creepy across the board, but like there's certain things where if the guy's attractive, oh, it's—she likes it; it's flirting. If she doesn't—if he's not attractive, then I'm ruining your career. Okay, um, I—I get what you're saying. It's if a woman was sitting alone, let's just say at a restaurant, and a guy that she found unattractive came and asked, "Hey, can I sit down by you?" She'd like, "You're creepy," but if a guy she thought was a 10 out of 10—it's true though—if a guy who, in her eyes, she thought was a 10 out of 10 walked up to her and said, "Hey, can I sit with you?" She'd be flattered and say yes. She's taking—she's accepting the—yeah. Okay, well, uh, it is interesting though, because it sort of a little bit gets into like, I mean, saying "come over" versus "Do you want to come over?" It's not a huge leap, but you know, it's—it's certainly a bit more assertive and uh, but it is interesting. You know, there's—there's this trope, and I think tropes tend to be based in some sort of truth. Is—is there any surprise that if women are attracted to and go for guys who are bad boys, jerks, and [__]—it's interesting. Me, a lot of women complain about the men they've dated, previously dated, complain that they're jerks or [__] or whatever, but yet you find yourself attracted to these kinds of men. So is it any surprise when the—the guy who is exciting to you because he's maybe a bit of a jerk or an [__] ends up treating you poorly? Is it any surprise that, you know—no, it's not surprising. It's just sad when it happens. Like, you—you kind of mentally prepare yourself. CU—you're like, "He's an [__]; he's probably not going to treat me very nice," but you still kind of get—it's because they give off that alpha vibe; like they make you feel like the—they just know how to do it; they're like good at CH—most of them are charming, and they make you feel special, and you feel like you're on cloud nine for three weeks, and it's the best thing of your entire life, and then—but only for three weeks. Yeah, and then—and then you're mentally preparing yourself, and you're like, "This is going to end, and this is going to be rough," and then it happens, and then you cry lots, and then you get over it, and then you fall into the next one, and you're like, "Great, I'm ready." How many times have you gone through this? Lots. I—well, we're going to move on to our next thing here, but uh—oh, here we go. Okay, so—sorry, I—I only got your name, Wend Dingo. What's your—what's your actual name? Like, my real name? Yeah, yeah. Well, that's—you introduced yourself right as Crow. Crow. Okay, Crow. Yeah, that's fine. Um, on your Instagram, you describe yourself as a witch. I sure do. What—what does that mean? I thought you said you were a Christian. I was—I'm—I'm a Christian, but there's a difference between being a Christian, doing white magic and black magic. There's no all magic Christian. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't do black magic; I do white magic. But still, what the [__]? Either way—no, like, what makes it okay? So I just—let's just go through it real quick if you don't mind. Yeah, for sure. So what sort of practice is it? Wicca? Like, I do tarot card readings; I do spells, all the [__]. The Bible says not to do. Yeah. So how could you be a Christian if you're—well, if you're practicing all the things the Bible tells you not to practice—with your sorcery, which would include tarot cards, of course. Yeah, no, and I—I'm okay with that. So for me, when it comes to Christianity, I believe in God, you know, I believe Jesus died on the cross and all that kind of stuff, but I'm not following the Bible like everyone else is. I'm not—clearly, I mean, I have a kid; I'm not even married. I have—that's—and even on the Bible, but these things—these—the—the requisite for Christianity is what's called theosis. So this is the practice; it's—it's an ongoing thing; it's not a thing that you just do. That's a Protestant thing, right? H—I'm a Christian, and now I'm done for good. It's—it's an ongoing process. Oh yeah, for sure. So—so the thing is is—if you're going through this process—we can—for becoming a Christian, yeah, right, then you're supposed to be moving away from sin and more towards Christ, right? In a way, yes. Well, what other way could there be? Well, no, exactly what you said. Absolutely. I'm not—I'm not perfect by any means. I'm not saying—no, nobody is, right? Nobody is. But you know, this is particular—Mhm. You know, and the Bible really references this as being a no-go, especially—especially when you're talking about tarot cards, right? So—so why would you actively engage in that? It's not—I don't actively engage in it, but I do it once in a while. I mean, I still do it clearly, but it's once in a while. You know, I do these tarot card readings, but I don't do them out of, um, you know, like there's like certain goddesses and all that and gods and tarot card readings, but I don't believe in the god and goddess as I believe in God. So whenever I do a tarot card reading, I do it with my one God, and then after I do a tarot card reading, I pray, and then even when I go to sleep at night, I pray. It doesn't make it—I'm sorry, it doesn't make it any better. That's actually the mark of the satanic inversion. So—so the mark of the satanic is inversion. So if you take—if you take a thing, you say, "God tells me to do this," sin, you're inverting it. Case and point, let me give you an example. Okay, um, let's say for instance that somebody said, "God wants me to do essay to a woman," right? What would you say? Clearly no. Clearly. Why? Cuz—um, not only is it morally bad in general—I mean, it's Mor—there's no general—all your morality as a Christian comes from the Bible. It's not even—this is not even related to the Bible; this is just in general. Your morality comes from the Bible; you're a Christian, right? So you follow Christian ethics. Well, yeah, yeah. So the—the—the dominating feature of your moral structure, how you know what's right, how you know what's wrong, is biblical, right? Well, like I said, I don't—I clearly don't follow the Bible. You know, then what would make you a Christian? If you use inversion to—so the things which the Bible says are good, you do the opposite of those things. If you could say, "Satan wants you to do X," would you say it's things that are biblical or not biblical? What do you mean by that? So if Satan—in the Bible—if you're—if you're going to make a moral claim—if it's anti-biblical, would that be—would—would that be something Satan would want you to do? Yes and no. It's—there's a yes and no question to that because when you—when you go to hell—if you—you die and you go to hell—Mhm. Satan—clearly won, right? He want—what he wanted, but at the same time, he's also getting rid of the bad people, getting rid of—what—bad people—anyone that does anything wrong; they're getting rid of the bad people. If I'm Destin—if I'm—I'm—if I'm destined to go to hell, that's where I'm going, but I'm not going to deter my work from—So you don't believe in free will? Well, yeah, there's clearly free will. I'm doing—Then you're not destined to do anything, right? What—you're not destined to do anything if you have free will? Well, no, in the Bible, you will go—you will go to hell unless you're saved by God. Okay, so then is that destiny? Because if it's destiny, you have free will. So I'm not dead—I don't know. Yeah, so—so—so hang on, let's just back it up, right? If I were to ask you essay, right? That's wrong, you know, it's wrong cuz you have a Biblical base, right? It's not even Bible related, but then how do you know it's wrong? It's the history entirely. I mean, it's in laws; it's not even Rel—are all things in laws wrong? For instance, slavery was a law; obviously that was wrong, right? Well, yeah, but it—it's changed over time. Same thing like the Bible—just because law doesn't mean it's moral, right? Just because something is the law doesn't mean it's moral. Okay, sure. Yeah. So if that's the case, we know that some laws can be immoral. How do you know if you're doing something which is right? I'm not saying what I'm doing is right. That's not my question; how do you know if it is though? I don't know. You don't know. No, right? So then—so then if you're a Christian and you're practicing biblical ethics, that's how you know the delineation between what's right and what's wrong. So if you don't practice what's biblically ethical, you're doing wrong. Yeah, yeah. So then—I mean—mean hang on, hang—I'm almost done; I'm almost done. So you actually can't be a Christian, maybe not. Yeah, I'm just letting you know I still believe in God though, and I'm never going to—never going to not believe in God. Great. What you should do, right, is believe in God and be a Christian, right? Those—like do both. I mean, sure, but I mean, I'll be honest with you, I'm not going to get rid of my work. I still believe in God; I still believe Jesus died on the cross for my sins. Who knows? Satan—you know who else believes in God? Satan. Yeah, Satan does, and you're absolutely right. I mean, the—the—I guess the belief in God—not enough. Satan was—Satan was made by God, and Satan was God's—you were made by God. Yeah, yeah. So again—again, you know, just the belief alone is not—What does that mean? I still believe in God, and that's what—that's what matters at the end of the day. All right, look, I may not follow the Bible entirely or—computer—clearly, I'm not perfect. No one's perfect, right? Yeah, but that's—it's not the statement of Christianity that people are perfect; they're not saying people are perfect—lot of—they're saying that you're trying to move towards the goal; you're TR—trying to move towards the goal of being more Christlike, right? That's it; no one's going to be that—no one's going to be—what—no—no more like Christ—not Christ, but more like—you can't move towards that; you have free will. I mean, there's—s—yeah, that—that means you're free to be more Christlike, and if someone can do that, that's great, but I have personally have never encountered that in my life ever. I have personally have never witnessed anyone that follows the Bible to a te—no, I'm not—again—no, saying that you can't make mistakes, you can't fall short; things like—if you're going to like—that's—that's kind of almost baked in, right? The question is, can you be moving towards—not—well, yeah, if—if you can be moving towards not doing that, then—if—if I—if I quit doing what I'm doing and I studied the Bible more—absolutely—then—then I don't understand why you don't do that. Cuz I don't want to. Oh well, I mean, okay, I still believe in God at the end of the day, right? I don't have to be Christian to believe in God. You don't. But you have to be a Christian to believe in the Christian God. No, you don't. You don't. No, I still believe in God; I still—I know Jesus died on the cross for my sins. I know all the books of the Bible. I didn't know what Jesus wants you to do. I don't know what he wants me to do. He actually—could there be like a book that you could read that would tell you? We—yeah, the Bible, clearly. So—so when you say, "I don't know what Jesus wants me to do," but then you say, "There's a book that would tell me everything Jesus wanted me to do," you can see where I'm like—I think, in my opinion, without reading the Bible, I think Jesus just wants someone to be kind. You don't—just because I'm—just because I study what I study—that's not good in the Bible—I'm still a kind person. How do you know? What do you mean, "How do I know?" How do you know you're kind? I know I'm kind. How do you know? I just know. You just—I'm not—I'm not—I'm not going around robbing people; I'm not going around making fun of people; I'm not going around doing any sort of thing that—so the—so the societal standard for what kindness is—so if you live in a different society where that wasn't considered unkind, right, would you still be kind or unkind in that society? It depends on what society you're into, right? So if it's subjective what kindness is, then why would kindness be the metric for which salvation was based around? I don't think it's salvation. Then who cares about kindness? You see, I mean, it says in—it says in the Bible, "Jesus wants you to be kind." It—that's what it—that's what it exactly says. And if I ever stopped being a witch one day and I studied the Bible more, so be it. Okay, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. I don't know if—I don't know if it's beautiful. No, I loved that; that was beautiful. And that was the first time he was stumped, which was brilliant. No, I wasn't—I don't think he was stumped. I don't know about that. It doesn't—it doesn't bother me because who—you're—maybe you're right; I may not be Christian, but I still believe in God at the end of the day, and that's what matters to me. So are you Christian? Yeah. Catholic or Protestant? Orthodox. Oh, my brother's Orthodox. I see. Okay. Well, I have an announcement to make for the rest of the stream, and I apologize—the—so everywhere else we had it accurately, but just in the description of the YouTube video, it was already set to this; it was the wrong copy paste. So sorry for anybody who—that's why that original TTS came through differently. I apologize; I didn't know it was wrong in the description. Reed is now 50 and up; TTS is now 100 and up for the rest of the stream. Sometimes we'd like to lower it a bit to allow more people to get their uh words in. If you have any—so I'm just going to do a couple other adjustments here, guys, on—on the r end, but uh—so any—any uh other hot takes? Anything from you? No, I—I was just saying cuz you looked me out. You sure? Um, honestly, I feel like stop making dating so complicated. Um, I feel like a lot of people set expectations that they know certain people are not going to reach, like when you're just now meet—like just meeting someone, you can't expect them to be, you know, all for you or put all their time and their energy into you, or you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like people need to just go with the flow, allow things to naturally just happen.

Disagree? Why? I disagree, my dear. I'm listening. Okay, so you're saying that when you're first meeting somebody, essentially you should be okay with them having sex with other people, even if you just met them. Okay, wait, hold on, hold on. Actually, no. Yes, because I'm going to be honest with you, you casually meet someone out at a bar or a restaurant or whatever. I don't go to bars or clubs. Well, regardless, wherever you meet them. Sure. Are you literally expecting them to just—no longer have sex with whoever they're having sex with at that time? There you go. What—say it again? Sorry, I said so when you meet someone and you plan on dating them or you know, pursuing them in a romantic way, are you automatically assuming that because that you just met them that they are then going to cut off what they already have going on as far as whether it's a situationship or—you're insane; you're delusional. For thinking—I'm not—well, like from day—do—like from the very first day you meet someone, you think they're going to just be like, "I'm going to stop talking to you and having sex—" I just met such and such at the—I'll explain. So in 2024, my position is absolutely—and it's unfortunate that I think it's somehow out of the norm to have an expectation when you're first meeting somebody and assuming when you meet them—they—they tell—because I mean, okay, it used to be, "Oh, I've got a boyfriend," but now you could meet somebody and they're sleeping with three people and they're still going to claim single. So but yeah, if I get her number and she tells me she's single, in my mind, as I'm thinking, "There's no other dudes in the picture, at least sexually, hopefully, fingers crossed." Uh, it's still suboptimal if she's dating other men, but it's interesting that again, in 2024, that is somehow crazy to not want to date a woman that's currently getting piped down by other men. Now I'm not—now—now I think—but okay, but so my position is—is at least for my standards, and this is standards that I encourage any man—I don't care if you're a college guy that doesn't make any money or you're—you're an average guy; you can still have the standard. You don't need to be some [__] super—you can be a normal guy, average guy, and have this standard for women. My standard is if you're dating other men, I'm not interested. That—well, hold on, let me actually start this in reverse. If you're sleeping with other men, that's 100% unacceptable. That's the bare minimum standard men should have. Now, men, if you want to extend that a little further to if she's dating other men, it's a rap with her. That's—that's my standard. You might—

Not want to take that as far as I do, but that's my standard. If you're dating other men, it's a wrap with you; goodbye, back to the streets you go. But I feel like dating is for you to have the opportunity to figure out who you want to be with, like you should be intentional, right? But I, I still feel like you shouldn't just meet someone and just be like, okay, I'm dating them, and I'm only dating them, and I'm not going to talk to anybody else, and I'm not going to continue having sex with the person I already had sex with. You want to be with me; that's how it's got to be. If I go, I'll, I'll give a little leeway, maybe you were—maybe hold on, let me finish, sorry. Wait, wait, wait, what's your point? What happens if she's like, beautiful, the love of your life?

So you're saying only ugly women date one man at a time? Is that what—no, I'm saying what if she's beautiful, love of your life, and you literally see her and you're like, and she's [ __ ] another dude? Disgusting! Hold on, get the Rocks, yeah, get the Rocks, you go! What if it's—wait a—out, out, you go! What, there's like love at first sight, like movie magic? You have a meet-cute, everything's magical, and you start texting, and then she's like, I'm, I'm, I'm just want to go on a date and see how it goes. You wouldn't take—she [ __ ] another dude? Are you, are you, are you [ __ ] mad? She just met you, darling! You give her a chance; she's the love of your life. She's a sluzer. Listen up, she's a [ __ ] sluzer, mate! I ain't doing nothing like that. She can go back to Darish Shire. I don't [ __ ] with no chicks that are [ __ ] with other men. Do you understand, Prett? She can go back to [ __ ]. I don't know, [ __ ] Liverpool. I don't do that. You would not be dating a lady from Liverpool. You have a lot more respect for yourself than that.

What's wrong? What's wrong with Liverpool women like that? Need a soccer hooligan again, right? Was that uh—so they're like, they go to football matches and each other up. So, so wait, your, your point, so, so your, your point is, is that it's a movie moment and this she's so beautiful, true love, a chance. I'll—here, let me double down on my position. Let me double down on my position: when it comes to dating women who are involved with other men, I don't care if she's way out of my league on any level, looks-wise. She could be a 10 out of 10; she could be Megan Fox in her prime. If she's sexually involved with another man, I want nothing to do with her. I don't want to sleep with her; I don't want to date with her. She's [ __ ] another dude; goodbye, have a nice life. Can I insert—how would you know? You can insert—go ahead. Here's the thing though, right? We got to get back to our earlier definitions of cheating now, don't—I was going to say, but no, we're talking about dating; we're not talking about being in relationships; it's different. You wanted to come in; go ahead.

I think it's just quick, like maybe miscommunication. Not like just—let's—when he says—and tell me if I'm wrong—when he says that he wouldn't sleep with some—when he wouldn't consider dating someone who's already sleeping with someone else, it sounds to me as though he's expecting someone—which I, I, I agree with your position—he's expecting someone to not be having casual sex with people. Okay, right. So well, it's not even—it's beyond that though; it's even beyond that. You can't even text anyone. I'm setting the parameter because if I think there's a separation between sleeping with people and dating people, and I think there's not a separation. Even if she was sleeping with other people, it probably would not even work out anyway if she has—I want to jump in here too. So, as I mentioned earlier, I've been single for the past four years. Okay, over the course of four years, obviously there's been times where I've been talking to someone. I have never in my life been talking to two men at once. I don't understand that. Good, I don't understand that at all. Like, if you're actually be—I only date for long-term, um, so why on Earth would I put my time and energy into two separate men? Right, obviously it has to be behind both of their backs because no respectable man would tolerate that, and then I'm starting the relationship off on a lie. I don't—can I CH into what you had to say?

I feel like—like you said, you date for long-term; everybody dates for different reasons, you know what I'm saying? So I, I do agree with him when he says he's not looking to date someone that's, you know, dating other men or having sex with other men. I get that, but that means you then have to now find the right people to date. Like, if you're just—every person you come across isn't going to be dating for the same reason. You can, you can date for fun. I'm just a little bit lonely; that's why—lonely, and you want to like—but you don't want to like—you want someone to buy your dinner. I go—have 50/50, thank you very much. You just dating—I'm a feminist. No, but um—what, you have something? Go ahead. Yeah, so um, I'll talk about someone—me and the guy I'm currently talking to—the same—we had our date. I deleted Tinder cuz I didn't want to talk to nobody else. Cool. Look, if I go on the first date with you, I might give a girl—Lee—I might CU—I'm a nice guy, right? I might, I might give her a little leeway if she was on a first date with another guy in recent history, whatever. Maybe that's acceptable, um, you know, but if you want to go on a second date with me and you're like, dat—you have a date scheduled for Wednesday and you want to see me again this weekend, it has to be a wrap with that other dude. You want to see me again; it has to be—from, from after the first date, you want to see me again; it has to be a wrap with other dudes. If there's other dudes in the—preferably there's no dudes in the picture. You've been like lonely as [ __ ] for three months before I came along; that's how it—I'm knight and shining armor; that's how it should be. And I want—and gentlemen, you should, you should operate from this standard. Don't let the degenerate hookup culture—I, I, I wasn't looking at you intentionally. You said don't, don't let the new normal of hookup culture dictate your standards. At minimum, you don't date or even sleep with women who are sleeping with other men. Ah, just do—I don't care how hot she is, guys. If you're on the first date with her and she [ __ ] a guy yesterday or [ __ ] a guy between your first and second date, it's a WAP; it's over; you don't pursue her. But why can't you date for fun? At the end of the day, I'm not saying you can't, but I'm saying, are you going to get married at 25? Well, you could, but a lot of—not told—a lot of dudes are not told that you don't have to tolerate—and this is what you're going to encounter if any of you are on dating apps—you don't have to tolerate this sort of behavior from women. They're free to do it, but they ain't the type of girl—my strong, strong encouragement and recommendation is these are not the type of women that you want to be getting in a relationship with. Imagine this is your future wife—well, between our first and second date, I [ __ ] another dude. Nah, bro, I ain't about that life. [ __ ] it. But what about—can the guy do it? Think—guy allowed to do—is the guy allowed to do it? The guy—what do you mean is he allowed to be dating other—I don't think men should be promiscuous either. Okay, cool. I just wanted to make sure that you have that—I'll let you have that. You can have that, but I don't agree with it, but you can have it.

Well, I think the best way—I mean, still worst when women are—what's that? It's still worst when women are like—doesn't it suck having to like—why know you have to compete for a guy? Wor—because there's wor—there's a value-added perception—they—I feel like you're always competing. Okay, not if he's dating intentionally. I'm sorry; no, you're F—go ahead. I already—my—if you feel like there's a value factor for women, why do you not feel that way about men? Because women don't feel that way about me. Who—well, I mean, if we—if—so, so if you're going to go through dating data, and this is interesting what you see is that body counts matter a lot to men; they don't seem to matter all that much to women. Some care, but not that many care, right? Compar—so there seems to be some kind of value addition. So I would agree with you, meet you halfway and say they're morally both bad. It's just as bad morally for a man to be promiscuous as it is a woman, right? But I think the effects on a man are far less than the effects on a woman. So I think it lowers her value far more than it lowers his value. But that bloody sucks, doesn't it? That's—well, well, yeah, it does, right? Life's not fair; we're not equal; egalitarianism is a lie. I told you all this [ __ ] before, but I just bring it back, right? But the, but the, but the most—the most important thing is it's like—so if you're going to tailor behavior, it seems like women have kind of this thing, this magic power where if they say chased, they basically get whatever they want for that chastity. There—men, they really can't. So it seems like you have this kind of gold, right, that you're born with—just give it away—and that seems like it's a really poor decision because men don't have that; they don't have this gold that they can just give away, whether they're chased or unchaste; that seems to matter less to women than the opposite. So I'm just always like, why are you born with a gold bar and you just give it away? Because someone taking the gold bar feels really good. What—this is—sorry, that's true. But I think as far as even dating goes with just us at the table, a lot of us, um, are saying that we're, we view relationships as something that should be long-term, right? But then there's a lot of you women that as well that are looking more for casual experiences, maybe casual sex, maybe just a first date for the fun of it, and there's not necessarily anything wrong with either, um, but at least when I state my own opinions, I am stating opinions for the long-term, right? And I, I personally think casual relationships, casual sex is a waste of time. Again, that's my personal opinion because I think people focus too much on short-term fun, short-term pleasure instead of long-term happiness and long-term fulfillment. Well, and it hurts—it hurts you more than it hurts us in the long run. Can I respond to that? So I am the type of female that before I got into—I'm sorry—before I got into creating content and doing porn, that I was the long-term relationship girl. So my first ever relationship was four years; that was my longest relationship, and after that it was like each relationship was only lasting maybe like one, two years, and I just felt like I was wasting my time thinking that I'm—can I ask why were they so short compared to the first one? I mean, a lot of guys were—they're cheaters. Like, at that time I was really young, and I was—I deal with older men, so that was just a thing with me. So, um, a lot of them felt like they could play with me, and you know what I'm saying? So I dealt with a lot of cheaters. I wasn't going for that, so I just felt like I was wasting my time dealing with, you know, this relationship, that relationship. And then once I got into doing content and doing porn, at first it was just me doing it solo, then I started working with other people, and I'm finding myself—okay, I'm doing it for work; I can just casually date because me personally, I'm not looking for, for anything long-term anymore. But you, you don't find this a waste of time? I mean, obviously you're making money. I personally don't find anything that I'm doing now a waste of time because I'm—for a long-term partner is a waste of time to you now, but that's my perspective now. At the time that was what I was all for, but that's not what I want now. What I want now is just to casually date or just enjoy the time that I spend with whoever I spend that time with. That's just how I am now; I'm comfortable with that. Are you rich? No, I'm not rich. What's the exit plan? What exit plan? Well, if you're not rich—oh, you mean as far as—what—there's a shelf—there's a shelf life on this loose [ __ ] energy. Donated $100. R—bu—started my business. If she's seeing/banging other dudes while you're dating them, it's a [ __ ] rap. They will be forced to see Abdul, especially if they have eight bodies; they get extra Rocks. Get the Rocks, Abdul! Yeah, get the Rocks, get the Rocks! It's the LP. That's Bas—that's always—I always wonder on this question because, um, you know, many of the women who live promiscuous lifestyles—I talk to them; I always ask the same question: what's the exit strategy if you're not rich? Some are—right, like some, some of the chicks go on OnlyFans and they get like millions of dollars, and then they blow it in three years on [ __ ]. But the thing is, is the exit strategy—it seems like it's a bad, bad exit strategy. So you would have to either A, get a sum of money, which you had—so much money that you just didn't have to worry about it ever again, or B, it's probably going to be some kind of dependence on somebody at some point. For me, think so. I personally just started a business, and um, right now I'm getting a lot of support with that, so I think that that's my exit plan. I mean, like most businesses fail, right? Yeah, they do, but I don't see mine failing. You'll be the one—I'll be the one—and for me personally, my exit strategy is the stock market. I'm learning right now through Honey Drip, and you know, um, doing these—are super high-risk plans, by the way. Yeah, and but so I can also always go—hold on, let me finish talking—I can also go back to nursing at any day; my license is still active. At any day when I'm done, I could just cut it, and it's nobody's going to know. So it's just the point of my—my goal though to be rich is to be in the stock market and you know, keep doing that; that's, that's the ultimate goal for me. So if I could ask you, because you stated before that you do your sex work as almost like a coping mechanism—based on—say that—but—or based on things you've dealt with with your life—you just enjoy doing that—but that's—I do it cuz it's art. Like, the way that my name is The Gobler, I do it because I feel like I can, you know, basically teach people some things. So, um, I do it for art. Form related to gobbling? Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Andrew, you do not want to know. Absolutely. So, um, it's not because of a coping mechanism. I—at first, I came out because, um, I feel like I'm great at it, like so good, you know, that—cing—so you know, I feel like, you know, every time one of my videos go—it go viral or whatever, so I just feel like—go to waste. Can't you—got to teach the world, you know, um—when men—art—come to their form—at the end of it—know it relieves stress, you know what I'm saying? You can't, you know—I have a question—not me—if you want, but—I bring down the stress level. I got a question for, for, for you and for all of you, uh, so a lot of people, you know, like, uh, porn can be an art—kind of, sort of—what I do is it is an art, but my question—you know, how with, you know, art artists, there are magnum opus, the Masterpiece, right? Do you guys have like—do you have a video of you gobbling that is just like your magnum opus? Yeah, top tier. Yeah, you have a magnum opus of gobbling? Yes, absolutely. It's prob—that's your Masterpiece that you look back and you're like, God damn. I be like—when I actually—when I look at it, I be like, dang, who is that? You know? Yeah, you don't even remember who it was? No, I remember, but when I look at myself, the whole face, everything, the structure is different. I said, damn, damn, you know, how did that do that? But yeah, do you have a magnum opus? I have a couple. You got a couple? What about, what about Two TWP? She got it. What's your name again? TWP is fine. Two, two princess instead of two chains. She's two [ __ ]. Yeah, two [ __ ] princess. Okay, um, I—being fous—I didn't really think it was—that's my tag, Two py princess. I went to wear my top, but I was told I wasn't allowed. She—what, what is the—I have much—she's adorable. What is the Two [ __ ] princess magnum opus, Masterpiece? I—en—done it yet. So my bucket list, you know, like, uh, Leonardo da Vinci—don't, don't you worry, I've got it planned. Is it okay? Oh, it's still in the works. Oh, yeah, cuz um, it qu—has a few people, and I thought that's all I need to say. I got some uh—chat—let's get back to—actually, we need to get back through—we have a lot of notes from you guys, so I'm going to try to blast all of them, uh, going back to you, Raven, or what was it? Crow. It's okay; it's—I just have W—I have wend—dingo here, so that's your username on—Wendo is my username on Instagram. What is a wend—wendigo? You know, like cryp—you know, like it's a Bigfoot from Alaska, basically. Well, it's not, it's not Bigfoot, but like it follows the crypted pattern. So like I have tattoos of cryptids. Like, I don't know—cryptids? Yeah, so they're like—chupacabra is that? Yeah, that's like—that's a cryptid. What's a cryptid? Just like make-believe animals. Wa—Andrew, you don't believe in Bigfoot? No. Okay, mean—don't—I don't believe in any aliens, Bigfoot, none of that [ __ ]. I love unicorns. So, uh, you said in your notes here, Crow, that you had uh, sex with someone in front of his family? Yeah, I did. They were a cult? Yes, yes. What? Right, yeah. So this was, this was back after, um, I moved back—did the tarot cards tell you to do it? You're—no, Jesus—no, there was no Jesus where I was. So, um, this was back when I recently moved back to South Dakota, um, I was meeting this guy, and the first date went perfect. The first date went fine; I was like, man, this seems like a really, really good guy, um, then we went on a few more dates. After the fourth date, he said, my mom wants to meet you. I thought it was a little bit—oh, I'm so glad—him—not dating—donated $100. Beauty is subjective. 800 CE black La standing AO aox Tad with a horned helmet on the horizon might have made it into the carvings of the ruins. It's 2024; we understand heart disease now, but okay, wank. I don't get it; sorry. You guys can respond by the way if you want. Three different points—you don't know—all right. Thank you for the TTS. So after those four, five dates, he wanted me to meet his mom, and I was like, okay. So it was this nice closed-off area—was on a farmland, cuz South Dakota has a lot of farmland, um, and the mom and dad seemed really normal, really nice, and then I also met his grandparents the same day. It's like a Hills Have Eyes situation. It was honestly really—it was—it was—what's the Rob Zombie one? Uh, The Devil's Rejects? No, the one of his first—it was like House of a Thousand Corpses. Yeah, but The Devil's Rejects, I think is the second one. Okay, so like their house was like—it was a nice house; I mean, it was a really nice house, and then they had some farmland too, but it was out in the middle of nowhere. It was probably like two hours from where I lived. Oh, gosh. But um, when I got there, like I said, the mom was nice, the dad was nice, the grandparents nice; they look—they were pretty normal. But when I sat down to dinner, they said something to me; they said, now I hope you really like this dinner, cuz we really have something planned later, and I hope you're okay with it. Run—bit—and I'm like—and I was—I was like—you're spooking the Gobler over here. No, I was, I was, I was a little bit scared. So I'm like, okay, um, he, he reassured—like I asked him, I was like, what does this mean? He's like, don't worry about it; it's just a thing that happens when, uh, my parents like somebody. Oh, and I was like, okay. So I thought—I was like—I decided to stay around during dinner and then maybe make a fake scene, be like, okay, I want to go home; I'm not feeling good, um, do you know that, uh, that one movie? I don't remember what the movie is called, but it's a movie where, um, the two people get married, and then they have to—oh, then they kill everybody. Yes, that's exactly—talking—how did you instantly know what the movie was? She's like, do you know the movie where the two people get married, and you instantly were like—when they kill everybody? Because I was just thinking, oh my God, it sounds like that movie when they sit down and like they get married—hide-and-seek—the—what—hide-and-seek? That's the movie. Oh [Laughter] Chuck. So, um, after dinner and everything, um, they wanted to play a couple games, and that's exactly where I thought the movie from, and it started to really freak me out. So I pulled him—my side—and I said, hey, I'm not feeling comfortable; I want to go home. And then the mom heard me around the corner, and she's like, hey, come here; I want to talk to you about something. And she, and she—I came over, and she said, well, we're a pretty closed family, and if you want to keep being in the family, we have to watch—now—run—br—you did it? Wait, are—that's some demonic stuff. What the [ __ ]—uh oh—no, no, no, continue. Oh no, it's like—and she's like—and, and that's what she said, and I, I, I was shocked for at least five, five minutes. I stood there; I was like, what is going on? This is not what I signed up for; clearly, I only wanted dinner, um, and then I had a talk with him about—and he said, yeah, I was kind of afraid to tell you about this. And I was like—about the cult gang bang at his house? Yeah, I can see how you wouldn't want to open with that first date. By the way, this was, this was like the fourth—that's still strong—coming in strong. I know—I like—I know if they keep going—continue. So, um, the games were over, and she—the mom called me over again, and she said, hey, um, you have to do this now, or you can never see my, my son again. And I felt very under pressure. I was like, okay, this guy is really, really nice. Do I do it, or do I go home and never see him again? Cuz it's this time—I, I was going through the loss of my ex-fiancé, so I was like, man, like I'm never going to find love again. So at that moment, I thought this was the best-case scenario. And then after the whole thing was done—instant regret—and I told him, your family's weird; I'm going home. Was this in like the living room? [ __ ] disgusting! It was in their basement. Wait, so you—the [ __ ]—wait a minute.

Wait, so you went through with it, and then you told him that your family's weird? I want to go home. Oh no, I thought it was weird entirely, but to be honest, I was kind of scared they were going to hurt me. I I I was going to say that when you said either do it or go home. I was going to say out loud, they might have not let you go honestly. You don't just tell people that it's a ritual in their family, you know.

So when I was when I was being escorted in the basement, it wasn't like a willful—I was walking down—I was being escorted. And in this basement, it wasn't like satanic stuff; I didn't see any of that. I didn't see a statue of a Fett on the wall or nothing, or anything like that, but the setup was weird. It was uh, again, that other movie, Midsommar, you know that movie? What the [ __ ] it was like that, I swear it was like that—like a torture chamber. No, not like that, the movie *Get Out*.

Okay, can you let—let's get a couple descriptives here. So okay, you go down into the basement, you get escorted into the basement. I don't know if you were leading up to this, but like, were you leading up to it? Yeah. Okay, I'll let—I'll ask questions. I was being escorted into the basement, and this is the part where I said either I go home or I might die tonight. So I was being escorted into the basement. I saw the mom lock and chain the door. I'm like, oh boy, what what the [ __ ] I was terrified. And then the grandfather, cuz the grandparents were there too, and the parents—the whole family—the whole family, cuz this was an only child; he was the only child—the the the grandfather was at the top of the stairs just sitting there guarding. And and this—the grandfather wasn't like like uh, is this real? No, I'm—this was terrifying; this was the scariest thing I ever encountered. Go ahead, continue with your story. But um, he was standing—standing at the door, and um, that's at that moment I was like, okay, I have to do it to get out of here, cuz I I I feared that if I didn't, I would never be able to leave that house ever again. Oh my God.

Wait, so okay, hold on. I I got some—I've got some questions here. Okay, so you get down—we don't need details of the actual act that occurred—but how many people were, besides you and your boyfriend or whatever, were in there with you? So the grandfather, the grandmother, the mom, and the dad—so four people. Four people. Okay, and were they speaking during the act? No, no, just—just—but they watched. They watched. So you know, like in Roman times, kind of like that would kind of happen way back when. Well, I know like for—with Kings, I thought there was this thing with like monarchs, with kings and queens, like monarchs, they would—I don't know, I watch *The Tudors*, so maybe like the first time having sex, they they had to W—like kings, they had to like—his—they had to witness to make sure that the chase was intact, right? To make sure that—never heard of that. Y—no, I don't know if it's even that—they just had to make sure was it—was it consummated—the marriage. They had to make sure the marriage was consummated. That's—that's kind of similarly what it was, but y'all was get married though? Y'all just—I know. Trust me, I know. And wait, so then when does it—it ends, and then you guys go and like watch like a Blockbuster movie or something? Or so after—after, and he unchained the door—unchains the door—unchained the door. Crazy. That—like I said, that's the part where I said it's either do or die at this point. So I get—I go upstairs, and I—and I let them know, and I say, hey, I'm kind of tired, I'm going to go home. I'll talk to you in the morning. As soon as I got home, I blocked them on everything. I got—I even made new social media at that point, cuz I wanted—I—I didn't tell this person where I lived, and thank God, and I got rid of everything. I'm 2 hours away from the person, so I don't care whoever—who—if someone is with this person now, I hope they're safe. That's all I can say. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, so sorry. You know, I—it doesn't bug me much anymore because, as scary as that was, I'm alive. Yeah, I'm alive. Were you um—were you doing all the witchcraft and stuff then too? No, no, that came later. Yeah. W—well, that's a first for the whatever podcast—a family voyeurism were committed uh—sounds like perhaps maybe—I don't know—um, I mean like I don't know if it really would be because I I still went through with it, and I never—and I never said out loud that I don't want to do this. That's co—yeah, that's the issue when it comes anyways. Well, sorry to hear you—that sounds like a pretty bad—very bad—extremely bad thing. So sorry to hear you went through that. That's where my trust is just—game. Yeah, was he white? I think that's where it started; that's why she doesn't—that's why she doesn't okay—understand. All right. Okay. You also said the cheating and divorce rates are so high. Honestly, it's mostly—CU—half of us are bored. Mhm. So have you cheated before? No, but you said—you said us—half of us are bored—us—I tend to think that means including me. Oh, no, no, I didn't mean to include me. Oh, so you think just like people are cheating and divorcing because of boredom? I don't disagree with you, but that's what your position—so when I—I came to that conclusion because I've noticed a lot of people—now obviously I didn't go through with this kind of—so I was with my most recent ex-partner, we were in an open relationship. Mhm. And um, I've had men come to me, and they wanted to cheat on their spouse with me, and I always asked—I always asked them why. I was like, do you not love her? Do you not want to be with her anymore? Majority of them said, I still love her, I'm just bored. H—it's like the Pina Colada Song. And when—and clearly how is that like the Pia colada song? We like P colada is getting caught in the rain. She writes because she's bored of her husband, and they end up being—yeah, the escape. That's it. Sorry, it's like the P song. You've never heard that? There's a couple—rain—he—he—it's not what I associate with that song, but no, cuz he—she's trying to cheat on her husband, and he's trying to cheat on his wife, and they end up actually being the same. Am I—do I really have to Google the lyrics? Yeah, no, it's actually literally it is. So she writes into a paper being like, I'm like—I'm looking for this man, he used to be like this, and he replies being like, I'm looking for this woman, she used to be this. Yeah, she's—she is right. It's about kind of—and they like—and infidelity was trying to hire a prostitute and she—for wife—brings a whole new meaning to that song. I'm so sorry if I ruined it for you. Did—yeah, the S—yeah, it's actually—you colus for you—a girl with two vaginas—onei Galaxy—we have repat—we have a question here from GG: What are everyone's opinions on sleeping with other people during a break—separation—with a long-term girlfriend—boyfriend, knowing you'll get back together? Cool or no? Asking for a friend. You—there are no breaks or separations—true—it's all gas—no breaks—otherwise—I don't think—toat—you want to break up—to be fair though, Ross and whatever the [ __ ] her name was—Rachel—were definitely on a break. They were on a break. I give Ross a pass. I'm shocked you're on team Ross with that one. Yeah, that doesn't seem like—oh yeah, no, it does. She broke—average white guy—average white guy. She ended it; they weren't on a break. He was like, okay, well, we're done; I'm going to have a little afternoon—or well, midnight delight—with another—another lady. Okay. Um, wait, so the question is though, for the whole panel, uh, opinions on sleeping with other people during a break—separation—with a long-term girlfriend and knowing—oh, knowing you'll get back together? Oh, cool or no? Asking for a friend. If you—what if you'll know you'll get back together? Right? Knowing you'll get back together, uh, I think you probably shouldn't. I don't think you should. No. Is it like the whole *Pass* movie? No, I don't think—I don't think you should. Yeah. Anybody—everyone else—a movie with you or a song? No point. Yeah, I just associate—if you know you're getting back together, you're basically just asking for permission to cheat at that point. Hey, is it cool with you that I pretend we're broken up just so I can sleep with another person and then get back with you because I value you? I don't know. Yeah, I think if you want—like long time as well—like if you're going to marry them, that's a bit different—break up. Okay. I think you—well, moving on—uh, getting to my notes on the gobbler—yeah, you—you describe yourself as liberal—politically correct—I mean, I'm not—are you on me? You sure did I say it? I'm pretty sure you said that. I think you said liberal. I'm not—politics. Okay, that's fine. Uh, oh wait—uh, so nurse—trader in the day—goed at night. And I think this is on your Instagram—mouth from the gods. That's the truth. Is that what you put on? Well, we talked—we talked about the gobbling, so—um, do you—oh wait, we have—wait—do—do I want to come back to this? Do you—okay, I think we have some tweets from you. Sure, go. We got some tweets. I do a lot of tweeting. Go ahead. Uh, can you get the gobbler—you can't—tweets—what? Huh? Cuz my Twitter has—no—no—no, we're not going to go—the word—it—tweets—specific tweets—ni—huh? I'm like—right—oh wait, we might not have tweets from—oh, that's from Miss Exquisite. Yes, we got tweets from you. Okay. Well, okay, sorry, I got it mixed up. Um, you do paid meetups, is that correct? Paid meetups. Well, did you do paid meetups? Yeah, I would if it's like an NFL player or if they hit me up and they say, hey, I got some money, blah blah blah, I'm going to get up with—I did—I think that's where I saw one tweet where you—maybe if they—if they offer—if—if somebody rich was to hit me up and say, hey, I got some cash for you, I'm going to say what's up—what—so what is the exchange there? Like, how much would it cost for a gobbling? Well, I'm not asking for that—is my personal finances—I'm going to keep it to my s—but if you would like to know personally for real—DM. Okay. DM. Is it four figures minimum or four fig—okay. All right. All right. I'm just curious, you know? Maybe there's some guys—trust me, the people with regular pockets, they don't—they can't—they would—they yeah, they would be mad when I tell them—they like—I should slap that [ __ ] you know? No, they shouldn't slap you—not me—the person who pays. All right, I'll read—by the way, if there's any—if there's any curse words or any potentially bad words, the TTS won't read it. I'll read it now. Appalachian P Annihilator. Thank you, man. I would whip Alexis Madison. What the [ __ ] bro—blank—like—Habachi redhead—it's not the double v that makes up you a three of 10—you—oh my God, I'm not going to read that. If you—un—okay, come on, bro. How you gonna—on the right—you catch a shark in those fish nets? What—I don't know. Oh—oh my God—Appalation Annihilator. All right, there you go. Sorry, the TTS will not trigger if there's any vulgarity or any sort of uh—uh—Jesus Christ—right—in correct sentences, we'll be able to understand you guys. There you go. Um, I think we were talking about paid meetups, but we covered that. You—so you're a nurse though. Do you have any concerns about your patients like seeing you in they—grown—that light? What you mean like—let's say one of your—cuz you're a nurse, right? One—if one of your patients—wait, do you work in like a—like I said, I'm Clark Clint when I go to work; they don't—they're not going to know me. I have a—I'm baldheaded, I wear glasses, I don't have—like when I go to work, I'm literally—they're not going to know me. I work—what if it's like your number one fan? It's your number—your elderly—my number one fan, and what—he's going—he's going to look at you—be like the [Music]—go—be honest, what are your thoughts on middle seats? Basement story—your face expression when you asked if she got into witchcraft after the incident made me curious about your brain. It's surprising to me that somebody who happens to be a witch also happened to run into a cult that happened to have group sex in the basement. Right? I'm just saying these are a lot of happenstances—of coincidences—that's all. Well, the—that happened before—for me becoming a witch, but to be honest, after that incident, I really wasn't the same anymore. I mean, it scared me; it was demonic; it was—it scared—satanic, and I honestly—I haven't been the same since. It would—I feel like it would lead someone to light magic. I also don't really like your approach on—almost implying—almost implying that it was like a punishment for her practicing witchcraft. Yeah, you get—there are punishments for practicing witchcraft—you agree, right? But just because something terrible happens to someone, it doesn't mean—I didn't say it did, but you agree with me that there are punishments for people practicing witchcraft, right? And—and there absolutely is. I'm not going—you agree, right? Yes, I agree. Well, then I don't know what you're complaining about. Okay, I—I just—I don't know—I don't think he's justifying—no, I didn't say he did—it just—I'm not even saying that one-to-one—he—the guy asked me what was going on in my mind. I think it was a little messed up, so he asked me what's going on in my mind, so I verbalized what's going on in my mind. It's very odd that all this cult activity is all going on around a single person—just seems like maybe there's interconnections—that's all I'm saying. There very well could have been. Yeah. So Tracy—see Reas in the chat. Yes, I would say—I—good to see you in the chat, Tracy. That just rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. Thank you, Tracy. That was very nice, but I understand—Tracy, you didn't—you didn't send a DM though, Tracy. You said you wanted to come on the show—we're last on Sunday—where you guys shoot us a DM, and we'll get you on the show, Tracy. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you so much for your patronage and support—the gobbler—your nurse—one of your—you know, it's possible one of your patients—elderly—elderly patients—[ __ ]—that was on your Twitter—like—and she saw—he saw the—some gobbling. Okay, then what—what's the question? Do you—so do you have any concerns, you know? Because I feel like I'm an independent contractor, so—but—but—but like I feel like when it comes to nurses—doctors—lawyers—politicians—even—that's—maybe the politicians might be questionable—you want a certain level of decorum from your healthcare practitioners. M—but that's why I told you in the beginning why I do—well, right now—Trac—ontil—donated $100—if something like this happened, then wouldn't you find God instead of going into witchcraft? Find the light instead of going into darkness? Can't go on—fiancé didn't give his permission—sorry. Well, Tracy—that—I mean, that's—that's like what's in my head, right? Well, no—and they're—AB—the—Tracy—on—T—Tracy—they're absolutely right, but for my—from my point of view, like I said, it was the scariest thing I ever encountered in my life. Yeah, not—not right—doen—do I think that I can go back to reading the Bible and not doing witchcraft anymore? Absolutely. Have I thought about that in the past? Absolutely. It's just—so—how do I convince you? Huh? So how do I convince you to do that? Keep talking to you, man. But isn't it like one of those issues where—couldn't it also just completely have pushed her away from God completely? Because being put in that situation—I get God tests people, but that's a test and a half, isn't it, really? Well, but she believes in free will. If—if we're going to—if we're going to go on that kind of talk real quick—I mean, God was merciless—see, that's—oh okay. Well, here—let's—let's continue on. WE—let's not linger too long on it. So go ahead—um—about the nursing—got to get back to—they got to get back to the goblin—no, no—she's F—she—I was kidding. No, but you were asking about the—the elderly—how would I feel? You want to know like—cuz if he sees me and he says, hey, I seen your work, I would be like, okay, thanks, but I will keep it—you know, I can't—I'm not going to go into detail while I'm at work, of course—what I'm saying—like—I'm just going to say, oh, thank you, but then I probably would never go back to that facility because now somebody in that facility knows who I am and they can, you know—yes, so I would just go to a different one. That's what an independent contractor does—they go to different facilities, and they're not underneath nobody but yourself. Is there anything like—CU—I know in certain fields of work—like if you're in education—especially education with children—or like even police officers—if uh—I've heard stories of when you know the—because the image of the department—or they'll get fired—is there something like that—like is that—that's why I said in policy—if I was to go to a facility, their policy is—um, if you are part of their establishment—um, you can't do online—like certain stuff—you can't even say online—you can't even take a picture in the facility and post it online—type stuff—so you know—it's like, okay, if I was to be found out, I just go somewhere else because now I'm found out here, you know? You said—also shifting gears—ABS—one time you got kidnapped by a jeweler that was high on Coke. Yeah, he made this for me right here—oh my—gobler necklace—but yeah—stands for the gobler—I thought it was like don't Che—so—um, yeah, at first, cuz we've uh—seen—I swear—got to be satire—I mean—so uh—basically what happened was—we've been—we've seen each other a few times before—uh, and it was never like that—I could have—I should have been able to see the signs that he was like—he—he uses those kind of hard drugs—but it was very clear—was there speed talking going on? Yeah, it was speed talking—little B—erectile dysfunction stuff like that—P—the size of the Death Star—yeah—so stuff like that—so then this time he comes and picks me up from work, and he first—he calls me—he like, hey, um, I got some money for you—come see me on your lunch break—but I know like when I go drive with him, he always drives for a long time—but I told him—I'm like, we just have to stop right here, you know—stay right here—no—he still pulled—pulls out—starts driving around—I'm like, you really have to get me back cuz I have to finish my Med pass—I can't be in a car with you—blah blah blah—at this time there's no Coke present or anything like that—it's just—you know, he's acting a little bit sporadic—he gave me half the money at that time, and he was like, I'm going to wait out here, and then when you come out of work—cuz it was 5:00, and I got off at 7:30—he was like, I'm going to come out—you come out and come with me—so I went back in—mind you, I had my Bluetooth, and he could hear my whole conversation—he could hear me passing—he heard me doing my um, you know, the turnover—my nursing turnover—he heard everything—so he knew that I actually was at a nursing job working—when I get back out—inside the car—his pants is like halfway down by his knees or whatever—um—he has Coke sprinkled down his chest—in his hairs—Coke in his little hairs—there—it's like Coke in the—the—you know, where you open the door at—is a bag of Coke—like this big—guys—oh, I thought somebody was talking—it's like a bag of Coke, and then he had a gun in the middle holer—Run [ __ ]—run—literally—so now—oh, I forgot to tell y'all—I had my car when—when I got off—I had my car and I parked it in a—um—hotel parking lot and then got in his car with him—so I didn't see this stuff before—and my car is at a hotel parking lot—so now the whole time we're driving in an area that's heavily where police at—he's doing sporadic u-turns in the middle of the street—he's telling me like, oh, you trying to set me up—like—he's—to the point where he thinks that guys are following us—he picked me up from guys' house—he's in—um—I guess a Coke-induced rage—yes—yes—and he's like, I heard it—you were on the phone—I heard you sucking dick in the background—I mean, sorry—my God—I heard you doing stuff in—I heard you doing stuff in the background—and uh—I said, what are you talking about? You heard everything—there's no way—there's no way that—that's what you heard—so then he was like, well, just show me your video—so now after that part—left—he remembers—y'all—he has the gun, and he's trying to get me to—to do that kind of stuff with him—his p is down—he's driving around and stuff—and he's trying to get me to do this stuff—so this whole time I have my phone on my GPS to where my car is—we're only 7 minutes away from my car—the whole time he keeps just going around and around and stuff like this—and I'm like, you know what—I keep telling him—cuz we've been in the car for about 2 hours at this time—I said, I just want to get out the car—just let me out—you know—please—it's been enough—you know—blah blah blah—finally I seen the police—we're like—we're getting close—I seen the police—I told him—he was about to turn again—I said, if you do not turn, I'm about to jump out in the middle of the street—you're going to have more problems—you don't have no pants on—you have a gun—you have Coke—you're going to get in trouble—so if you do not let me out, you're about to get in trouble—I'm about to jump out—and instead of him turning, he went back over and went to my car and then—like—one—as soon as we started—he started slowing down—I opened up the car and like—jumped out while the car was still going—he didn't even stop—he kept going—so I had to kind of like jump out of a moving car or whatever—but hey—happy—but that's part of—yeah—but it's just crazy to me because I've seen him—him so many times before—so that was not expected at that time—sure—you know—okay—more notes here—I'm going to try to get through—I'm going to get through everybody's—so you also—and I think we actually already talked about this a little bit—you said you'd like to speak on the expectations of dating while doing porn—although I think we maybe already had a back and forth on that—unless there was anything extra that you wanted—my only thing is—they—um—most people expect that—they think that we're out here looking for that kind of stuff—you know—we're already—relationships and stuff like—they—we already know how people think of—

Us, we get told about this every single day. We get told, you know, we're not this, we're worthless, we're this, blah blah. We get all this kind of stuff every single day, so it's not the fact that we're out here looking. You don't have to keep bashing it in our heads like, "Don't date a porn star," don't that, don't do that, because y'all do it all day long. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's the truth though; we hear it all day, so it's like we, us, we're not looking for that. We're chilling. Maybe she is, but you know, nine times out of 10, if you're actually performing and you're doing this, it's—we're not really running to try to look for relationships; it's more so people coming to us, begging us to be in relationships with them, you know. And it's the truth that I don't doubt that there's a lot of guys that, uh, perhaps the guys who follow you on OnlyFans or just, you know, whatever social media, single social media, yeah, they probably would be happy to date you and be in relationships with you. I mean, that's just the point, you know. Everybody's not the same. Some people might find interest in one thing, and you, of course, find it disgusting; they don't, though.

You know that.

Yeah, sure. Yeah. Um, I just think, you know, for for a guy who's maybe young, getting into the dating game, or a guy who doesn't realize he can have standards, or uh, somebody it hasn't occurred to him that he can—a lot of guys, uh, you know, I think a lot of guys actually struggle when it comes to dating, and they're so desperate to get into a relationship that they will accept suboptimal arrangements. Jackson donated $100. "You don't want a husband, but you want to smoke the meat of crackheads for money; make it make sense." Please. I never said I didn't. I never knew he was a crackhead until until I stopped talking to him. So obviously, I don't want to suck crackheads because I stopped talking to him when I had to jump out the car. So that's the sense it makes. Is there a different—like, does crackhead penis—crackheads and cokeheads is different, two different things. Like, let's be serious. Crackheads are in the hood, literally on the corner of the street. You know, you like crackheads, cokeheads, 'cause let's be serious, it's a lot of people in the industry who do Coke. So it's a lot of people who, you know, you might laugh and stuff, but a lot of people who are at the Grammys do Coke. A lot of people who was at, you know, um, the awards, they all do Coke. It's a it's a it's a drug for people who are rich. It's AAL might be—it's a, you know what I'm saying? So I don't do it. No, that's not my my cup of tea. But Coke and crack, like Whitney said, yeah, it's it's two different things. Which ones did she do? She did both. She did both. She did—she was—cracker. Well, I don't know. She—I know she said, "Crack is whack." That's—you also said—my general thoughts is everyone makes dating so complex. You should just go for who—for whomever into the same thing you're into, rather it be traditional or modern. Me, myself, I prefer the lifestyle, the lifestyle, or a stag.

Yeah, you want the guy to be a stag? Yeah, he could be a stag or cuck. I mean, most of y'all call it a cuck, so I'll just say cuck 'cause—wait, stag and cuck are interchangeable, or—I thought they're different. They kind of are. I mean, some guys like with being a c—getting degraded. Stags don't like being degraded; they more so feel like a power type of dynamic from it. So a stag more so don't—it's not like—but they both enjoy watching their partner, okay. All right. Other people. And uh, moving on over to Miss Exquisite. Exquisite, uh, you stated in your messages to us that you considered yourself moderate and traditional, correct?

Yes. And so you—what—no, no, no, not moderate and—are you sure you got that right? Yeah, you said moderate and traditional. And I'm focusing in here on the traditional. So you said you're traditional? No, I don't think I—you said it. You said I'm pretty sure I said I was moderate on all—on all—St—because let me pull—Miss Exquisite, let me just pull it up. Pull it up. I'm pull it—so okay, so in the in our casting questionnaire, we ask, "Do you consider yourself uh, feminist?" And you state—or no, this was for number five. We asked your political leanings. You said you were moderate and traditional. No, you're from Virginia. You said—you said you were—you said you were traditional. Maybe I did, but I definitely didn't mean to put traditional. I definitely mean to put mod—totally derails. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So you're not traditional? Okay. All right. There goes hours of—Reason. Sorry. I'm sorry. I definitely write—okay, you did write it, because it's fine. It's fine. I don't know if you meant it, but now you know where I'm going with this. So you're walking back your—no, I really didn't mean—just put moderate, because I do have, you know, times where I feel like I can be traditional, but at the same time, I'm open to new ideas and new ways of going about things. So that's why I said I'm moderate. So in some ways you're traditional? Yeah, in some ways I'm traditional. In some ways I'm—you know—what ways are the traditional ways? It—it depends on what we're talking about. What are we talking about? Dating, 'cause I—I was talking about dating. Yeah, 'cause I—I thought that's how the questionnaire was kind of lined up, so I thought we were talking about dating. Oh, so you're tra—dating—you're traditional—no—dating—dating—I'm moderate. Like, I have—I can go traditional ways about dating, but in other—other ways I—so generally you're moderate, but there are some things that you are traditional about when it comes to dating, right? So what are those? So like, you know, courting. I feel like men should court women, like especially if, you know, you approach the woman, you're pursuing her. I feel like men should court their women, take them on dates, open the door for them, and you know, do things likey shivy. Um, what—I don't think as far as traditional is the whole like—um, like people date to immediately married. I don't feel like that should be the thing. I feel like you should take your time when it comes to dating, especially because, you know, you can know somebody for 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, you still don't know them. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like a lot of people—you think you should sleep with someone before you marry them? Yeah, I do, because who wants to marry—marry somebody you don't know if the sex is going to be good? Well, I mean, that's something which can become good. It could, but I feel like if you realize the the the flaws of where it already is messed up, you could kind of determine or, you know, whether or not you want to continue to deal with that person sexually. I don't know; it's different for everybody, but me personally, if I feel like you can't give oral good now, I don't think I'm going to be able to teach you, 'cause it's just something—the experience of the person who's marrying the other person, they would be equally yolked in that experience.

No, not really. It depends. Well, I mean, if they're both virgins, they're equally y—Well, yeah, if they're both virgins. You didn't say that. Yeah, but it's implied because if you're saying should people get sex—have sex before they get married, there's an implication there that they're not having sex, right? So then the question—the question is—I mean, it's kind of important though, right? It is important, but I do feel like you should have sex before you just decide to marry someone. That's just my personal opinion, um, 'cause what if the chemistry isn't there? Either like you say you can teach—chemistry must be there if you're getting married. Sexual chemistry and like emotional chemistry can be a bit different. Yeah, but you can—wait a second, this so weird because you told me—what if you meet a chick and Dream Weaver playing in the background, and you know she's the one just by looking at her. Now how would we ever know unless the guy came into both your vaginas, right? Like, how the [ __ ] would you know? You can just have a cute little me—cute moment. It's like, let me have my moment. I'm just saying it's always—shing your feminist around here. No, it's—that's not—it's just like there's a difference between like the chemistry you get when you look somebody in the eyes and you're like, "Oh, yeah, I want to—" Well, is it Weaver and they're the one, or do they got to—or they got to have sex first, and then there's like the butterfly moments, but then they have to collide at some point. You—but then sometimes you can't actually—Mar—don't you feel like the person who you're having the butterfly moments with—who your way into the sex is going to be good? No, that's how you feel, but it's not always like that. That's the thing. And the person that you have this great like sexual chemistry with might not be somebody you can actually date, like they're—yeah, so they're like interchangeable. So now feelings don't matter, right? Now there's an objective standard must be met before we get to anything else. I mean, that's just my opinion; I can't speak for anyone else here. Okay. Well, okay. So you said that you are traditional in some ways when it comes to dating. For example, you want shivy from a guy, right, which is rather traditional. You said you wanted—say it again. You wanted what? Like doors open, paying for first dates? Mhm. In your own words, though. Yeah, I said open doors, uh, uh, planning first dates, or treating—treating people out to First Dates, um, you know, getting to know that person on a more intimate level. Okay. So couple follow-ups here. So actually really quick, just around the table to get everyone involved in this, um, who should pay for the first date? A man? A man. Whoever—whoever got the money. Whoever got the money. Yeah. CU—sometimes I—I would—don't mind—P—sure that's fine. I think—you ever insinuated the date—whoever start the date. Okay. Um, I think the guy should first, and then on a second date, the girl should. Okay. Um, I think either 50/50 or whoever insinuated it. Um, whenever I go with guys, I always offer to pay, um, but if they are adamant about, "No, I'm man, I have to pay," I'm not going to argue. The guy. Okay. And ju—just going back to—I think it was you and you who said, "Well, whoever asked should pay," um, do you ask—have you ever asked a guy out? Yeah. Yeah. On the date—have you ever asked a guy out and—You'—You paid? Okay, not just for your half, but you paid for the whole thing. I took a guy to the—spere the other day. Okay. Was it fine? It was so good. So going around the table again, though, if the guy didn't pay for the first date, say like perhaps going in you didn't know, and he proposed to split the bill, uh, would there be a second date? Um, no. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Because—and I feel—because everyone said yes so quickly, right? Because I was going to explain, but it's okay. So well—tell my—my no is because that's a symptom of so many other things, like I—I'm—I'm all for being—people being partners. I think people are partners in different ways, and um, in my opinion, especially if we're talking about first date, you know, and it's like, "Oh, we have to go 50/50," that's—it's a symptom of other things. It's not—it—it shouldn't be about the money. It's not about the money. It's—it's a symptom of—of—of a lot of—couple—couple more follow-ups for everybody here, um, for those of you who said yes, the guy should pay, uh, in marriage, do you take your husband's last name? Yes. Absolutely. I don't know if you—I forgot who said—say—wasn't me. I just don't want to be married, so I don't—question—I quite like my surname. Um, wait, did you say yes?—mentioned—no, you said—you said whoever insinuates—not you. Well, I mean, some of you said, "Well, yes, I do ask," but the whole like, "Well, whoever asks should pay" is kind of arbitrary because men are overwhelmingly initiating first dates, so it's kind of like men should pay. I think if they got a nice surname, yeah, maybe I'll double barrel it, otherwise—okay, so who else said yeah—yes, the guy should pay? Did you—for the first date? Yeah, for the first date, uh, in marriage, will you take your husband's last name? Yeah. I—okay. I don't know. You don't know? Fact—no. I'd have to have that conversation. Why—I'm so glad I'm not dating. Donated $100. "Blacklist traditional." If my memory is right, in your lead role as the protagonist in The Hit movie staring Jason Sta—the mag—I don't remember you wearing anything when you escaped the trench. Okay, thank you. I'm so glad I'm not dating. Thank you for your patronage. Man, that guy has the best name ever, by the way. Great name. Super solid. Uh, wait, so you're—you said though you would split, right? Yes. So I also am against legal marriage—legal marriage. Yes. I don't believe that the government should have anything to do with a marriage. I—I believe that's between two people and God. Sure. So a covenant marriage? Yeah. Theore—so then you would take your husband's last name? I'm not sure on that yet. Well, I don't understand—sorry, you guys—no, you guys speak into my—okay, so you're Catholic? No. Okay. What's your—omation? I was raised Orthodox, but I was say I'm non-denominational now. Yeah. So then you're taking your husband's name, right? Like I said, that's a conversation that I would have to have with him. I don't know at this time. Well, if you're going to go to the Orthodox church for a covenant marriage with your crowns, what's your spiritual father going to say as far as the taking the last name though? I don't think—to me personally, I don't think it's that important, but if it means a lot to him, maybe I would take his name. Well, he's the—he's the head, right? That is true. And if he says you're taking the name, you're taking the name, right? I might—I'm—I'm not opposed—you mean might? I'm not opposed to it. I don't get it. I don't get the might here. I just—he's the head. Yeah. Yes. Orthodox marriage—covenant marriage, right? So you get the marriage—get your crowns—get all that—everything is great. Your husband says you're taking the name, you just would. Okay, then I would—like I said, I'm not opposed to it. It's just—what—what about you? The question was, would you take your husband's last name? Yeah. Okay. All right. Um, so okay, going back to your traditional—um, you want—you know, chivalry. You want for first—a—I regret—stand—I want to hear what you got to say. Okay. So uh, did a little—we do research on everybody. You do—I mean, you were pretty clear that you have an OnlyFans. In your OnlyFans, we can't pull it up, but it states—where's my [ __ ] reading glasses for the [ __ ]—hold on. You're a bisexual content creator. You have uh, 40 2 triple D titties, 53-inch ass, fat pretty [ __ ], and a wet mouth. You do full-length xxx videos, explicit and nude all the time, boy-girl, solo, anal, girl [ __ ] play, BJ, toys, King fetish friendly, um, on your Twitter, there's videos of you nude and sing the D, my dear. You are not traditional. Oh, I didn't say I currently was. I said—I said certain things about the dating world you'll be traditional—the year 3000—the year 3000 you'll be traditional. That's what goes on now. You like traditional treatment from men, but you're not a traditional woman. No, I'm not a traditional woman, but—so I mean, this is a problem that I see in the dating marketplace. If you're not a traditional woman, I don't think you're deserving of traditional treatment, but it's free [ __ ], right? Listen—which you think I'm deserving of has nothing to do with what I do get. See, that's—that's a good point. That is actually—no, but that's—that's a very good point you make, because I agree with you on your point despite you not being a traditional woman. MH—men are still—yes—going to give a non-traditional woman traditional treatment, which I actually—I object to, but I knowled 100% that even the most modern non-traditional women still—somehow—it's not—no, it's not even somehow. It's evident that they still get traditional treatment from men, because that is what—I don't know. Some men are just men, but my view—they just treat people nicely now. It's one—but it is different, though. It's one thing for—well, you may still get it, but in the, you know, if—if we're talking about—well, dating is not fair. Life's not fair. It occurs to me that why are men still holding to their—you know—why are men doling out traditional treatment to non-traditional women? That's my issue with it. And—and if it was your expectation, and it's—you said there wouldn't be a second date if—there wouldn't be a second date if the guy didn't pay for the—for first date after he initiated. So that's an expectation on your behalf that—you have an expectation that men give you traditional treatment despite the fact that you yourself, by your own admission, are a modern non-traditional woman. Yes. And I stand firmly on—so how do you reconcile yourself not being a traditional woman but expecting and demanding traditional treatment from men? Because it's free [ __ ], right? I mean, yes, in a—in a—in a sense, it is free [ __ ]. Number one, but number two, it's not that I demand it; it's just what I—what I want. You know—you know what I'm saying? It's not a need; it's a want. That's what I want. It's like everyone wants to be treated like a princess, no matter what they do for a job. I—it doesn't matter if the job—Mak—you kind of answered your own question though, too. You said, "Why do men do traditional things for non-traditional women?" What do you think that they want? Well, I think the—there's a couple components here. Obviously, there's some uh, some societal and cultural—what's the right term for it—uh, leftovers. There's still like a sort of scarcity—it's not that—but like if—um, if it's sort of like a competition—pressure. So if other men are going to give non-traditional women traditional treatment, those women still have some reason to still expect it, even though they're not deserving of it. If men are still willing to give it despite the absolute degradation of traditional behavior on the—on the woman's part—well, there's a dating pressure and a market pressure for the behavior on men's part to continue. So like, even if you are totally non-traditional as a woman, but like you still like, "Oh, if he doesn't pay for me, and like, I'm not going to continue dating him," and if like women—there's enough women who have that—who hold the line on—even though I'm not traditional, you still have to be a traditional—and if a big enough cohort of non-traditional women hold that that line, there's going to be a mating pressure on them to still continue to be traditional—to give traditional treatment. Okay. So—no, I—I see where you're coming from. Yeah, but I just feel like—I don't know—like—like you said, you don't feel like non-traditional women are deserving of it. You know what I'm saying? You're not deserving of it. You—hey, good for you. You still get it. It's not—that's what you think. Well, I think I'm righteous on this position. Why? Well, it just seems—because I do—torn—I'm not deserving of traditional treatment. Well, if I'm—here's my approach to it. Traditional women ought to get traditional treatment. Traditional men ought to get traditional treatment. It's just like equality is not really a buffet—like you get to pick and choose the the equality that benefits you, the modernity that benefits you, but oh, let me hold on to these—like I still want a guy to be chalous—where—when there was a more traditional social order, those things benefited—benefited women. Mhm. But now that we're not in a traditional social order, we're in a modern social order—uh, but why does a job make somebody untraditional? 'Cause like I'm not—I'm not my job. And I don't know why people doing forign is like—H—having photos of yourself nude and like doing adult content with other men out there in public is like the one of the least traditional things that you could do. No, it's not—porn's been around for as long as there's been new magaz—oldest most—like traditional—you didn't say old—historical—like it's not an historical account of how old it is. He's—Mike Davis donated $100. "What's up, big girl? Forget them. Mike Davis will show you a life you didn't know existed." I just got a F-450 truck that accommodate your figure, brand new heavy-duty tires to how I slide in N MDM. [Music] [Applause] [Music] Love—M—would you date a guy who owned 150-plus Burger Kings? I mean, yeah. Got—M—what you—me? Come on. Mike—he owning them franchises. I like that. Yeah, he can—I'm just gonna like wingman for Mike Davis here. Mike Davis—me and him go way back. He actually saved me once from a bear. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was crazy. Are you serious? Me and him were camping, right? Like you guys think like, you know, I got black friends, right? Um, me and him were camping, right? And uh, you know, like [ __ ], you know, the bear came. We left some food out accidentally. We left some Cheetos and—and uh—what's—having Cheetos camping? Cheetos? What type of camping do you do? I—you're having—there're pork rinds and Cheetos, and it was a great—great—just me and him, totally heterosexual platonic fun. Okay. And bro, you know, listen, we're Wilderness men. We're Wilderness men. And—and a [ __ ]—I was pass the [ __ ] out, right? 'Cause those pork rinds really [ __ ] me up. Holy [ __ ] that [ __ ] computer came out of nowhere. So he sa—"Bro, the bear"—he [ __ ] busted out some bear spray, sprayed that [ __ ]—I call Cap—no, this happened. This totally happened. Oh, he bar—it? Yeah. So if like one of the big things women look for in a man is the ability to protect—protectors—he will—if you're ever [ __ ] camping with this guy, he's the [ __ ] guy you want to be camping with. He'll [ __ ] up a bear. W—Wing. Okay. All right. All Mike—thank you. Mike Davis. Appreciate it. What were you talking about? Traditional—being tradition—traditional. You're saying why does your job—look—it's not traditional to—is what do you mean? You're not your job, though. You said that—like the same way that the person I am at home, like when I'm not the twoo [ __ ] princess—when I'm chilling and relaxing and having a nice time and not having to think about like how I look on camera, what people are going to think of me, what I have to say—they're not the same person. She's actually kind of nice sometimes. And like—do you know—like that's the person I want to be loved, and I want someone to love. I don't give a toss what people think about the two [ __ ] princess. Yeah, hate me, love me. I've got a cool party trick. I have two vaginas, but like the real person that—what was like the person that I am outside of it because it's not all real. That's the person that wants to be treated like a lady, that wants a door held open for—sorry—that wants a door held open for her, that wants to be loved and wants a man to embrace her and make her feel special. And do you think that you—you had something—go ahead. I just—I—I—I guess I'm trying to reconcile how you commodify something and sell it and then it's something that does directly infringe into your personal life, because I would say your body is your personal life. I mean, it's like acting, but—but it's not like acting. I mean, it's act—act—I feel like acting is very different than what we're talking about. Can I chim in? Um, I understand completely what she's saying, and I just feel like society makes it hard for people to—

Differentiate between a person and their career or their job. You know what I'm saying? I get it, but if you don't want to date someone who you know is a, any other profession they had, you know, it's kind of like that's the hazard pay. As someone might not, you know, it's—I didn't say that. I didn't say like, I understand at the end of the day, my job—if they've got a problem with it, they've got a problem with it, and they don't have to date me. What I'm saying is that the two, like, like any Charlotte, my life that I live, that's not the girl I want people to love. The girl I want people to treat me right and make me feel special is the girl that isn't on camera, but I—these are not disconnected things. What's difficult about it is because they're two completely different, like, it's like two completely different personalities. But I mean, like, the qualities you have do play into the type of job that you get, so it's like, I mean, I can't—why I could have gone into something else, I just wanted to go into this. I could like, I could have done a different job. Um, I just find it hypocritical to want to have all the benefits of a traditional man will not—I'm so glad him not dating donated $100.

I am not my job. Derek Shoban should have used the argument in court with your logic. Wow. Well, I mean, he's making a good point. He's making a good point, like you can't just disassociate yourself, the person from the job. The person is in the job; they're still the person. I don't think he made a good point at all because he was on duty when he did what he did. Yeah, but he's still the person. But are you not on, on duty when you're making off-content? But that's not what she said though. She said when she's not on camera, when she's not doing content, when she's not making—I think everyone, regardless of what you do for work, it deserves love and deserves a loving partner. But I think it's unrealistic to expect to be treated in a traditional way while not carrying yourself in a traditional way. I just find that very hypocrit—I, I, I don't dis—like I disagree with your opinion because, like we just talked about, there are women who are untraditional and they still get traditional treatment, so it's not unrealistic, it's just rare. But you even stated you don't want long-term, right? I don't, but doesn't mean that's not going to change, right? Just because I don't want a long-term relationship doesn't mean I don't want a man to treat me with traditional treatment. That doesn't mean I don't want a man to—but there is something that gu—that, that, that men—if you're looking for a guy to treat you traditionally, there is something that they're investing in. They're investing in a relationship. You know, it is an investment. Hold on, let me finish. It's reciprocal. Mike Davis donated $100. Brian, not gonna lie, we run that back. I'm letting you get mold, and I'm pulling out the popcorn too. I like big girl BC. We know she's a platinum Burger King C up. She put spread in my pocket. Gratitude. Sorry, Mik, I hate to brak it to you, but I do not eat Burger King. That is not where I go. Chick-fil-A and Wendy's get all my money, baby. What if it's—oh, that was such a banger comment though. Disgusting. Burger King is disgusting. Okay, please don't insult Mike Davis's—I'm not insulting him, I'm insing—didn't he just buy you a truck? He didn't buy it. He didn't buy it. Oh, okay. If he look, uh, in support, but look, I mean, look, doing like having nude photographs of yourself out there, sleeping with other men for work porn, it's not traditional, right? We're not—I'm not disag—she's saying that there's—well, I'm, I'm not saying that. That's the basis of the conversation. I really wanted her to finish her point though, cuz she was there more—oh, you're right, you're right. Go ahead, continue. Continue. Yeah, it, it—I was just saying that it building up to the point of there's something reciprocal in relationships, and if you're looking for a traditional guy, I promise you that that reciprocity and what they're investing into in time and money in paying for a date in, you know, it's, it's, it's all reciprocal, and it's different if you're a non-traditional guy versus a traditional guy, what you think you're investing in versus—TR donated $100.

Which girl? I don't mean to be rude with my questions. I am merely curious with the choices you made and why. I pray you find God in the meantime. Don't put a spell on me. Please stay of you. I, I, I just do light magic, sweetheart. I don't, I don't do black magic. All right, thank you. Uh, thank you, Tracy. Uh, go ahead with your point. And, and so P, like, where was I? The reciprocity is kind of what I was getting to, but really it's like every, you know, if, if loves what you want, then loves go for it. I guess the point here is it, it, it changes what guys are willing to put into a relationship for people who are living traditionally and not going down nontraditional pass, and that's not even a judgment on either one. It just what it does is it creates an environment where all guys, you know, all guys are bad guys. They don't want to put the effort in, they don't want to pay for the first date. You know, I think that the nice guy trope is, is, is, is sad because I think that guys have a biological tendency—trapped in the fets donated $16.69 cents. What Alexis looks like a high school dropout, fatherless, alcoholic, low-budget stripper, but I would still smash for show and hit from the back, even toe the back shot when pry smell like Sea World [ __ ]. I don't think I understood that. I appreciate the silence from everyone. The Meg lives on. They really like to interrupt you with the TS is. Did you have uh more you do? Well, I feel like I need to wrap it up now cuz they're, they're coming in. Yeah, no, it's really just that I, I think stuff that I think of is how it actually affects like a traditional path, and I feel as though guys, you know, even if they are looking for a traditional woman, they look less—they, they—I, I feel as though they're less apt to put it, you know, put that value and put the time in if they think that it's just going to be turned into some short-term thing and it's not going to be a long-term thing. Okay, well, so can I—I, I want to dive in on this real quick on the—you hate me? Yes, I, I do, but anyway, so the—I get it all the time. All right, so the—how, how does a guy disassociate like, okay, he wakes up in the morning and he pours his coffee and he's like, "I'm going to go to work, honey," and you're like, "Yeah, I'm going to go [ __ ]." Dudes like, how would he disassociate you, the girl with the Dream Weaver, you know, in the background from the you who goes and gets like, you know, double vagina hump during the day? Like, how do you, how do you get away from this? I don't know, haven't met yet, um, and I hope I do, like, but the thing is not yet cuz I'm so not ready to settle down. I'm like, I'm in my like, technically prime of my—R—I'm going to be—can somebody just read it? It says, "I'm not my job." I've heard so many 304s go on about how they love being violated, thrown around and used and as rags. Don't fool yourself, redhead. Okay, thank you. Don't fool yourself, redhead. I do like that. Yes. Um, you who doesn't—am I supposed to—am I supposed to not want that? I, I personally don't like being violated, but that's just me. Oh, not actually like, sorry, I don't mean like I want to be violated. I mean in the sense, in the bedroom—you want me to read it, Brian? Uh, this is a no. Okay. Um, I, um, yeah, I like to be throwing around in the bedroom, but I also like to be—why can't—why can't things be separate? Like, why can't I want a nice guy to like the other me and do my job and then also have nice intimacy that sometimes can be rough and sometimes can be nice? Like, you can like both. I don't really understand why because I said because I do my job—I didn't really understand that comment. What were they trying to say to me? They're still—they're still diving in on the disassociation, so they're just saying how do I—how does—how does anybody disassociate you from the, from the fact that you say, "Well, this is just a job." It's like, okay, I get it that you think of it as just a job, but how do I disassociate you, the person, from what it is you do? Like the build—he's Bob the Builder. You're like, "Girl, the only fan," you know, but you get to know the actual me because obviously the online personality that I have isn't the real me. Like the homie that like goes on dog walks every day and loves my mom unconditionally and cries all the time sometimes. But those are all aspects of you. Yeah, that I don't show online. Yeah, but those other things are also aspects of you. Yes, but they're two different separate—like the one is—they're not separate; they're both you. Well, they, they are though, because when you get into this kind of industry, it's, it's not like you put your full self out there. There is a second—there is a second—you have to—you have to have a second skin. Being online is so hard. You have to take all the like mean comments, all the—everything—nobody else is having sex but you, right? It's you—you're have two, so technically one can do that, the other one doesn't have to. Then maybe—yeah, I'm just saying it's you, and then it's also you. It's still you. Yeah, I can—I, I see what—I, I see where you're going with it, and I understand, but I think what she's trying to say is that when we log on or when we make our videos and things like that, it's a fantasy that we're selling. So in our mind, because this is a job, this is something that we're doing to get paid, that's not all that we are. You know what I'm saying? To people out here, that's what we are to them, but you know, when we have conversations like this, we say, yeah, we're not just that; we're not just our job. That's the point. Understand what you're saying there too. You're saying, look, um, there's other aspects of me besides just this type of sex work that I do, right? I get it, but you also have to own the fact that it's also you doing the sex work. No, yes—age—you—I'm not—I'm not disagreeing that—I'm not disagreeing that—I'm trying to ask a man to completely dissociate them, but I am asking for like—he's got to accept my job at the end of the day; it's not going to work out. But I am asking for him not every time he look—like I'm asking for the expect you get doing your job, as you just said—no one's going to love us, no one's going to respect us. But I'm just saying the at-home me that sits down and sits to a movie with my partner, that she wants some respect, she wants some love, and that was all I was saying.

Can I interject? But I mean, it's the truth though. A lot of these guys, they don't, um, care what a [ __ ] has to say. You know, it's the truth, like they don't care. So even if you spill your guts, when, when they watch this, they're going to be looking like, "Shut your—" So it's like at the end of the—I mean, it's the truth though. They don't care because we are the tainted meat, and they see us as lower than—you know, I see people comments, I read through a lot of stuff, and they don't care that you want to be loved when you go home. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, you already have to come to that realization and say, "I don't give a [ __ ]." I feel like that's definitely true, but isn't there motivation actually for reformation? So say like the motivation of shame is usually for reformation, so the motiv—now there's just some people are just [ __ ] mean. I agree, right there's just some mean people out there. Absolutely, but I think for the most part, shame has a place in society is trying to reform people out of behavior that you would prefer to not see, right? And so if the social shame, always the stigma is towards the sex work, isn't that a form of social reformation? See though, what about the people who do want to see it? I mean, y'all speaking on it, everybody dislikes it, but there's not going to be—yeah, but they're trying to shame those people too. They—well, but that stuff's been like since like—to get on to the point of—it's been since the of time. Moving on. All right, here. Well, I do need to finish my thread on tradition, but let me get some chats and Nickelodeon to the witch. I've played D&D2 to the goblin. No one would pay 40, let alone decent money, to contract STDs from that to Brian's lap dog. I hope you know how to defend against magic. Who's the lap dog? That's what you want to believe. Okay. Oh, okay, got it. He speaks. I thought I thought you only spoke Spanish, dude. What the [ __ ]? He's—by the way, guys, if you're curious, this is a Chilean military un—CH donated $100. Thank you. Ed—I have to say it—you said you can fake it for your job, so keep in mind anything you say now, knowing you can do that means you might always be full of [ __ ]. Am I wrong? You said you could fake it? Oh, yeah. Oh, you want resp—I, I can—did I—I don't think I said I can fake it. I didn't—you just said like you—you act—yes, cuz obviously I can't lie. The pizza man coming to my door doesn't always happen, like it is acting. Everything is acting. It's beautiful. Beautiful. All right, let me—I'm okay. We have GG here. Hey, thank you, man. Just to clarify, I'm not the one sleeping around during the separation; he is. Won't that change the way he sees me? Should I trust his intentions? Looking for advice from someone other than my mom. And we do have a TTS that is coming in here in just a sec. Uh, won't that change the way he sees me? I'm not—I honestly feel like—wait—I'm so glad not dating donated $100. Redhe head, I wish your father would have grabbed you when you were younger, held you into his chest, sternly whispered in your ear, "You're going to be amazing when you grow up. I love you." How do you know her dad do that? Oh, he didn't. He just shoved tobacco in my mouth and made me chew it. Oh, yeah, he told me I had to know what it tastes like so I could roll my man the perfect cigarette, cuz apparently that's what traditional men used—women used to do for their men, according to my father. Do you know how to do that? I do actually know how to roll a cigarette. Okay. Uh, so going back to the—GG said it's like the one useful thing—I'm not the one sleeping around during the separation; he is. Won't that change—wait, so that's the one—he's going to change the way he sees you because he's sleeping around? I, um, she—see, I'm assuming it's a girl, um, she seems like she has a ton of anxiety on how she's going to see him once the separation ends. In my opinion, if she's listening, don't go back. I think they were quoting what she said, trying to make sense of it. Oh, I don't know if I interpreted that wrong. Well, yeah, she's—oh, no, I was thinking sleeping around, and she's—he's—wa—who initiated the break? Who initiated the break? I think this is going back to the break question—that he's the one that initiated the break and sleeping, sleeping with, with other people during a break, separation with long-term, knowing you'll be back together. Okay, well, I want to know who initiated the break; that would be helpful information. But I mean, if it's your husband doing it, that comes down to you. If you're on this break and you are okay with him doing that while you're on the break, I mean, he—I think, I think a man—look, uh, well, it's not really—you guys are on a break according to you guys, so I don't know, it's not cheating, I guess. But I think he can still love you even if he were to have slept with another woman, so—but you're defo right, if he insinuated the break, then that's messed up. He's going to be—I feel—oh, no, I feel like he would, you know, might treat you different because what if he's more happier with that person, and he starts to get a stronger connection or he enjoys this person a little bit more. It might do come down to him treating you different, and if you see that, don't go back. Y'all on a break, but if you go back and then you see the person is treating you differently from the beginning and it's below your standards, then leave that person alone. Don't be with somebody who makes you unhappy. We have Aaron Chambers shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Two questions, big fan. Andrew, are you Christian, because the alternative is disaster in modern society, and ladies who raid themselves 910, we do need help on defensive line. I give you a 10 out of 10 for that job. #RollTide. Okay, yeah, so, so funny to answer that question—no, I'm not a Christian because of that. However, there is a pragmatic side effect which happens because of that which is also nice, but no, that's not my, uh, my motivation behind it at all. We have S Mill here. Good episode, Brian, and no temptation to check out these girls' OnlyFans. WW is that double—it's win-win, win-win. Okay, yo, SML, thank you, man. Appreciate your, uh, patronage. Thank you guys. Okay, bringing it back here. We have some tweets from Miss Exquisite. Stochastic Decay donated $100. Hey, Brian, sorry I'm late. Busy day. I had some Chili's baby back RPS. I read about how philosopher Pluto was a feminist. Had sex in front of my grandparents. Anyway, soldier, blink if you need help. Oh, he just walked off, but he chuckled as he—he chuckled as he walked. He was blinking. He was—he was BL—doing good. Hey, Stochastic Decay, thank you so much, man. Good to see you in the chat. Thank you. Uh, Nick, can you make the tweets a little bigger? Um, so mi—Miss Exquisite, we're going to have you read the tweets out in your voice. Okay. Go ahead. Nick, can we please talk about how the majority of you men don't know how to eat cats because I'm genuinely tired of the cap now. The context for pulling up your tweets is because you said you like—you're, you're traditional, you're traditional in dating, so I want the viewers to like view—listen to the Tweets in like—and also have in the back of your head that she called herself traditional. So you have these—say, "I was traditional. I said I like Trad." That's fair. That's, that's fair. That's fair. I—you—you like traditional dating, so the—these are the counter, sort of like a dichotomy here. Let's—he got you. I did not expect this. Okay, so again, viewers, in the back of your head, she likes traditional dating. Let's pull up her tweets. Whatever you got to read it—I want you to read it. I want to rise somebody's son's face and swallow his hole. I hate it. Hear it's very traditional. I mean, it, it, it can be traditional with the one that you really like [Music] you—I had a cou—name the name—is Freak Nasty. Yes, that's my alter ego, Freak Nasty. Pull it back up. Let's try to—let's try to blast through these if we can. Good morning to all the men who stays hard after they nuts. I hope you have an amazing day. So traditional. I'm just—I'm just grateful for what people have. I'm going be honest, if I didn't have weed, I would lose my entire [ __ ] [ __ ] out here, man. That's a fact. I can't lie; that's one of my, uh, therapies. Okay, hey, is that a bad therapy? Where are the big dick men who have their passports and are travel ready, and and that be your first date where they pay for that? I mean, yeah, it's a good question. It's a good question. You going to take me out the country? Why not? Why would you not pay for that? Exatic—the only thing I hate about this trip is that I didn't bring in e with me. Um, that was a girls' trip. I was just upset because I couldn't bring anything with me, but um, if I could, I would have, so don't, don't get it twisted. Next more—I can't wait to get back to my room so I can roll the fattest backwood known to men. Hey, I'm a pth head. I smoke a lot of weed, but it's not really traditional, you know, being—okay, wait a minute, cuz a drug addict—no, a drug cons—uh, weed is a herb from the earth. It's actually a plant, so poison, but it's not a drug. Okay. All right, next—there's never any—when I come in the house, I hate it here. I like that you end so many with "I hate it." Those moments, I really do hate it here. I hate when I'm watching content in a—in a—yeah, don't stay hard like, baby, I don't want to watch boneless dick. I'mma be honest with you, and I don't think a lot of people realize that in the porn industry, a lot of men cannot stay up, like they're either about taking drugs for it to keep, you know what I'm saying, keep erections, or they're constantly having to take breaks and kind of like rejuvenate, and it's like, that's why they got—as a consumer, I don't want to watch you doing something and then it looks like you're losing your momentum, so it's like, it's not appetizing to me at that point. That's fair. I—me—hey, dang—oh my God, I just nutted to the thought of this man. I cannot wait to get my hands on him. This—but it's all public; it's not very traditional. You can't have—I'm going on a date with a girl, and I'm thinking about—this is my work Twitter, so none—nothing about this is traditional. Still you though? Yeah, it is still me. Yeah, it is, but this—the fantasy—this one's really not traditional. Can we have you read this, Miss Exquisite? I can't wait until this weekend. I'mma throw the—out of this man's—until I can't breathe. Um, go on, girl, get it. Now, I thought—now I see why you thought it was the gobler because it's, you know, she still in your l—inspiration. I just like—no, I'm just saying from all the—is there more—you know, more—you're so good at reading these as well though. When you blow out the—I went to go see a man about a horse tonight, and I creamed all over that Muk. Just wait till you see this new video I was promoting. I was Pro—a BBC—a big—a BBC. Yes. All right. Okay, this is the circle—promoting a new video. That one wasn't—that one wasn't even—I want to go home. I feel like I shouldn't be hearing this. Why—why—here—ear—they're in the—they're in the corner like—we are so Christian, please open up your ears. It's not even—it's not even a matter of that; it's just so explicit. I don't know why you want the world to know those thoughts. I mean, it's really not about me wanting the world to know my thoughts; it's about me promoting my videos. It's about me promoting and getting engagement. A lot of people see tweets like that and think that this is just how I feel all the time. Obviously, it's promotion. Yeah, but, but I mean, you got to think there are people out here that think these thoughts every day and they tweet it behind burner accounts or accounts that they don't want you to find out. What's the problem with me tweeting it from a sex worker page? I didn't say there's a problem. No, no, no, I'm just—I'm just saying like a—like out loud. We got another one. Look at this. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's my man's birthday today. I wish I was sucking—

His stick right now? I mean, Chris Brown. Hey, I love Chris Brown. I don't know what camera anybody else has to say. I love that man. I've been—was that to promote a video? No, that was—that was for me to get noticed, right? Cuz who does not look—well, I mean, if I'm going on a date with you on May 6, God, on May [__]—it—you sent this at noon. You sent this at noon on May 5th. If I'm going—if I'm going on a date with you on May 5th at 5:07 p.m., and I know you're wishing Chris Brown a happy birthday and wanting to suck his D, I'mma feel a type of way about that. Then you, as a grown man, need to check your complex, because that a—that is a celebrity that I clearly have no access to at the moment.

Say Never. Chris Brown is going to watch this and he's going to DM you later. Well, hang on. She said at the moment. I did say at the moment. I love—the point of the Tweet was to get noticed, all right? I love you. CHR—does that mean that you um—next it's more—all right, y'all—y'all back there working? Okay. I don't even want to read that. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot, and I just feel like y'all just trying to put me on a SL. Last one is that—that's it. Okay, cool. All right. Miss Exquisite, I'm sorry, my dear, you are not traditional. Amen. All you're not traditional. Your Twitter and the things we've discussed and the—it's just—you look—you're still going—a lot of these guys are still going to give you traditional treatment, but the argument that I'm making is if you're not a traditional woman, you cannot expect or demand traditional treatment from men.

I can't expect it, but I will demand it. You—you still may very well get it, but it does not seem like a fair tradeoff to the men. It's not fair. What's not fair about it? You're not returning—you're not reciprocating traditional treat—you know what I'm—reciprocating in return? What are you resp—by default, you're just not traditional, though. What does that mean? You get everything—get the gobble, gobble, gobble. That's what she gets. That's—I mean, like, let's just say other than anything sexually related—I wasn't just speaking sexually. I just—me all around—the boort—personality-wise, loyalty, you know what I'm saying? Friendship. No, well, they can't get loyalty. I mean, you can get loyalty, and we're not going back to this whole me doing work is me cheating. Hang on. I'm not even saying cheating. I'm not even saying cheating here. Said that loyalty, though. I mean, if my partner has an understanding and is comfortable with what I do and my job, then it's not cheating. I'm being loyal because I'm allowing them into that part of my life and they know about it, so it—it—it's not me not—it's not me being disloyal at all.

Let me ask you something. Let's say that you have um, like a filmmaker, and he wants you to do this big porno, and he's going to give you I don't know thousands of dollars, whatever the hell they going rate is. I have no idea. Mhm. And you go, "Sure, yeah, I'll do that," and your partner has an understanding that you—you know, you do porn. Okay, that's—he—he knows this. Okay, so you go, you do the porn, then you get out of the porn and you go out in the parking lot and some guy's like, "Hey, I'll give you 10 grand to, you know, do this sex act to me," and you do that. Is that cheating? If the other guy gives you 10 grand and you do it—well, just because he has 10 grand doesn't mean I'm going to do it. Yeah, know, but if you did, would it be cheating if I didn't let my partner know about it? Yeah, that would be cheating. That would be cheating. That's the—because they're not—they're unaware of me now doing something else. So do you have to call your partner every single time you're going to do something and be like, "Yeah, I'm going to go do this sexual act with this other person?" If I had a partner, yeah, I would—D—I mean, why not? Sounds—you wouldn't want to be honest. They're already coming into a situation where they're kind of feeling a little skeptical. Do that—just sound totally miserable for the guy to be like, "Oh, okay, then, you know, have fun." I speak on that now because I talk to somebody who deals with it. Yeah, like that's just it. Okay, uh, here we have a chat coming in, and then I'll try to get through everybody else's notes. We have Shea's essay included in body count? Not a drunk hookup regret. Uh, red flag. Also, how does someone from the 317 get on the Pod? Hey, DM at whatever on Instagram. We are casting women. If you're a woman, you want to be on the show, if you can make it—if you can make—make it to Santa Barbara, just shoot us a DM. No, essay is not included in body count. I wouldn't consider it. Has to be consensual, like a real case and not the, you know, made-up [__] Yeah, I don't consider that either. All right, moving on with the notes. Okay, still here on Miss Exquisite. You said you have a lot of crazy stories. Uh, you caught your ex cheating by opening his garage. If we can just—so I can get through everyone's notes, try to keep—I—I want to try to just get through everyone's notes. Um, let's try to keep a little brief if possible. Finding the spare key—popping up on him—so you caught him in the act, kind of. So basically, I pulled up to his house. This was after school one day, mind you, he's graduating and I'm a junior. Um, pulled up to his house, he wasn't answering the phone. I seen an unknown car I never seen before in front of his house, so I'm like, "Something's not right." M—you're not answering the phone. All right, let me go see what's up. So mind you, we've been dating for four years. This is my longest relationship, and I've been to his house many times, so I know where he keeps the spare key, you know what I'm saying? I know the PIN to the garage. I know how to get inside. Find the [__] pen—put a pin in—I see the garage door going up, so I'm like, "I need to be fast, cuz if he hears the garage door going up, he's going to know something's up." His parents are out of town and everything, so he's the only one supposed to be home. I roll under the garage—like I literally get on the ground and I roll—so I roll under the door—run over—that's like—you know how many memes are coming from that? I'm so serious. If I'm—I'm telling—I'm dying. Y'all don't understand, but no, seriously, I rolled under the garage door and I ran over to where he had a watering can where the key was underneath—takes the key from underneath the watering can and I open the garage door. So now I'm like, "I got to be fast cuz he's going to hear everything." All the alarms are going off. I run up the stairs and I hear a loud noise. It's like a banging noise, so they slam the door. So I'm like—so I go up the stairs and I see the girl trying to creep out the door, so I'm like, "Who's that?" Incest mountain goat donated $669. Ask Mountain girl if she's inbred. She look hella confused. Trog as bomber clot look like an Area 51 mountain goat. P oh har is like an Iranian Sasquatch till her brother wax it. #patriarchygirl. Who is the—am I the mountain girl? Yeah, yeah, you're the mountain—mountain. I don't even know what you're trying to say, but yeah, long story short—um, wait, do—wait before—yeah, cuz you're from the Appalachian Mountains, right? I mean, that's where I live now. I'm originally from Florida. Um, okay, wait, you hold on. You moved from Florida to the appalation—my—my parents did. I was a child. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cheaper living. Yeah, it's quieter living. Okay, the question was am I inbred? Was—CH—no. Do you want—he's okay if he wants to respond. That was crazy. That's your respon—what else is there to respond to? He's shooting shots. You want to—you going to shoot back or what? Was the end of it? I didn't remember. I was—you don't want to read that. You don't want to—that was pretty bad. Jesus. Bring it on. All right. Okay, going back to—long story short, I ended up getting upstairs and he locked himself in his room and she tried to leave, but I wouldn't let her leave because I'm like, "Who—who are you and why are you here?" And she wasn't trying to answer my questions, and I'm like, "Okay, well, if you don't want to leave and he's not going to come out the room, I'm just going to go outside and bash your windows," but I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't go to Jae that day. Okay, but that's it. That's one of my crazier dating stories, kind of why I don't deal with men now cuz they're weird and they lie about stupid. Okay. You also said—we already kind of talked about this—you say though your outlook on how doing porn won't affect your future as far as dating, maintaining relationships, family, friends, partners, and also future careers. So you're saying that uh, how you doing adult content not going to have any impact on future careers and on dating in—for—in family—for me—you don't think it's going to have any impact on dating. Okay. No, I mean—I mean, I'm not dating right now. Well, you at least—perhaps the guy that you want won't have an issue with it, but do you at least acknowledge those of you who do adult content that it is going to close the door for—maybe you don't want these men, but it will close the door for a good amount of men. Absolutely. Absolut—definitely agree with that. Okay, but that doesn't affect me. Sure. You said as far as dating it doesn't—don't—my entire mindset is to keep things simple until it's time to make them complicated. I feel like everyone should be dating multiple people until they feel comfortable with settling down with their soulmate. Yes, and I think we had a bit of a back and forth on that, but so your position is basically like at the beginning you just date multiple people, see what you like, and if you want settle down—date for fun—pick one. Um, question: Are you—are you currently dating anybody? Um, anybody—I wouldn't call it dating. We have a very good understanding and a very strong friendship. I wouldn't call it dating. Friends benefit? You're—you're not—okay, you—there's a guy you're seeing, but it's not monogamous. Yeah, it's not monogamous. Uh, how many people have you dated that at the same time? Cuz you say you should date multiple people, so what's like the most—have you had a roster? The most I've dated at the same time is three, but I have had like a roster of men where I like may talk to from time to time, go on dates here and there. How big is the roster? Could be about 9, 10—9 to 10. I'm not—I'm not—I'm not having sex with all of them, though. That's the difference. But you—you at—you have a roster, so 9 to 10. Um, I do have a roster. I'm going to open this—that question to the entire panel here. Um, what's the most amount of people you've dated at the same time? So roster—I was it on me when Madison answered? Okay, one. Okay. Um, probably three at the most. Three dated at the same time. Yeah, but not like having sex with them at the same time, but just—what about roster? What's the biggest roster you've had? Um, I don't—men annoy—some men annoy me a lot, so I prefer to keep it low, you know? And my favorites—like my sub right now—he's my favorite, so that's who I—tight to—really—well, not just at anyse—not currently. How big is the roster, but like at—what's the biggest it's ever been? Yeah, like three, cuz I just don't want to deal with a bunch. Yeah. Uh, so like I wasn't dating them, but I—I—I was sleeping with them. What? Yeah, what's uh—how many? Seven—one for every day of the week, but I didn't always do that. [__] Disgusting. In you—hold on. You were sleeping with—yeah, but it was over a space of like a large period of time, like I just rotate between—the question is how many—like how many people have you dated at the same time? Well, I've—I haven't—the only people I've ever dated consecutively are two people. I'm seeing at the moment, but like—slept with and like continually slept with over—sorry, continually slept with over like six months. I'd say no. Yeah, did I say 7? I don't know. 7—9. Excuse me. I just like—SE—okay. All right. U—what you said—one for every day of the week—now—now nine. So wait—sleeping with how many at the same time? Let's say in a month period. Have you ever slept with more than two men in a 24-hour period? No. You said you have two boyfriends right now? Yeah, but I wouldn't do that to them. Okay. Is it 36 hours is cut off? Yeah, 36 hours is the exact—okay. All right. No, but so what about the roster? Yeah, so is the roster bigger than the nine or whatever you said? It's—it's—it's got—I—I'm trying to count—um—quite a few at the same time. It was uni—everyone has loads of sex at university, don't they? No. Okay. You look on the face—say no. All right. I just—uni—wrong. But uh, yeah, were you doing uni? That was—oh, that's—that's another time I've had a few rosters at a few different times, and they've been quite large. JC Brown donated $100. Traditional guy here. I stopped dating and trying because 304s run randant. Malik, Madison, and Alexis, you are a breath of fresh air for traditional men. Thank you for being genuine, respectful ladies. Oh, there we go, a nice message. What did I do? Like—she literally—never mind you guys, but I just think it's the—Jes Christ—my ears—ing—you guys don't want to say anything to—all right, just gave you a—it's just like a backhanded compliment, though, wasn't it? Um, not to them—to us—but they weren't talking to us. They were talking to—breath of—pretty compliment. Yeah, it's F—it's fun. Okay, wait—not breathing right? Oh, we were going around the table. Uh, how many people have you dated at the same time? Do you have—have you had a roster? No. And one. No, like I said before, I only talk to one guy at a time. I think it's—no, I can't do more than one. Yeah, one. Okay. All right. Okay, so you've had a roster—10. I've had a roster. All right. Okay. I mean, I was young. I was dating. All right, having fun. Yeah, 19—like what the hell. Last thing here. You said the world is in such a rush to find love or that one person they've been searching for, and it makes things very complicated because now people are being held to certain expectations that they may or may not be ready for. Um, and I think we talked about it. Yes, we do. Uh, wait, hold on. Uh, you think there's too many expectations? Yes. Do you think so? For example, what I said earlier—my expectation of be properly single when you meet me. Don't be dating other men. Don't be sleeping with other men. Do you think that that's like a burdensome expectation that I'm placing on women? That is the biggest expectation—probably going to be your biggest let down—let—because it's just—it doesn't make sense for you to assume that somebody's going to do that. Assume what? What do you mean? When you meet someone and you think about dating them, that they're going to drop whoever they are already talking to—dating—dealing with—what—for you—whether—why is that unreasonable? Yeah, why is it unreasonable? Because you don't just—I mean, me—I personally am not going to cut off whatever else I have going on just because I met you, like—right—you—yeah, you're—I'm—I'm—I'm speaking for myself, am I not? Speaking for myself. Well, I mean, in this case, when you're talking about what's unreasonable, right? Is it unreasonable for—for Brian to have that standard? Um, yeah, kind of, but only if it's with you, right? Not really. I just feel like it doesn't make sense for you to just assume that somebody would do that just because you just met them. Everybody's not the same. No. Well, that's what you're expecting. It's not me—what I'm assuming. It's—if you want to keep seeing me, you got to sit—first off, you don't—I don't want guys to be in the picture from the beginning, right? But if—look—well, you also changed what you said, too. At first, you said they have to completely stopped talking to or dealing with whoever they were dealing with when they met you, then you said, "Oh, well, I'm going to give them that—that—that one grace period," but first—then if you want to see me for the second date, then you have to cut off all those other people. That's what you said. Well, there's—okay, so here's the most ideal scenario. Okay, well, I mean, the most ideal scenario would be she's a billionaire, ays, and a 10 out of 10, and she's a virgin and BLM. Uh, but uh—so—but okay, the most ideal situation is going in—she's been—she's not been recently encumbered with any sort of relationship or boyfriend. She's been single for a decent period of time. She's not currently sleeping with somebody. She's not dating anybody else. She's properly sing—ofir—thank you. I'm so glad I'm not—I live in EAS Washington, almost in the Border—he smoke—I stepped outside and smelled sloppy rotten clown J—once I tuned into whatever—realized why red head. Okay, LOL—just cuz you can't get it. He's a brave and a decent man. He's a Pioneer. Okay, please don't—please don't be mean to—I'm so glad I'm not dating. I'm just kidding. Like what uh—okay uh—there—the reason he ain't dating—so it would be suboptimal for me to like have to give somebody leeway. But look, it's—it's like if she's a great girl and she went on—she wasn't sleeping with the guy—that's 100% a deal breaker, but if she was on another date with a guy recently or, you know, that might—I might give leeway there, but if she's sleeping with a guy, it's a 100% no—o—goodbye—back to the streets you go. I don't think that's unreasonable because she thinks it's unreasonable. I'm a woman, and if I was seeing a man and he's going on dates with other women or sleeping with other women, I would not continue talking to him. But you're dating for long term. That's why you feel that way. I believe he is as well. He's not looking for—is that correct? R—yeah, I'm not interested—I am not interested in one-night stands or casual sex. I'm interested in—okay, so then that changes my whole perspective cuz I'm speaking on what you ask me about—even if I was interested in casual sex, I wouldn't—I would still be unattracted to a woman who in—re—in who has recently had sexual intercourse with another man or is having sexual intercourse with another man or in between our casual encounters is going to have casual encounters with another man. But that makes no sense if you're just—look, you're looking for just that. Oh, it's still just like disgusting—gross. You then claim yourself to be disgusting because you're looking for that—you're looking for casual—well, even if I was just having—wanted casual sex—just with her—yeah, but even if I just wanted to have sex, which I'm not inclined to have—it's not—it doesn't interest—like cuz a lot—it's actually interesting on—wait, Andrew wasn't here uh, two shows ago. We had a girl who's like—she's kind of probably just putting on like a little show or an act, but she was—she was hitting on me and she's like, "Oh, I want to hit it." I'm like, "F—" Okay, first off, she's putting on uh, a little show, but uh, I turned her down. A lot of people in their chat were, "Oh, well, if the cameras weren't running, like Brian would probably hit it," and it's like, "No, I wouldn't." And well, part of it was she's had sex on camera and her body count was over a hundred, so even for casual sex—even though she's—she's okay looking—she's—her friend—you know—oh, that's your friend Lily? Yeah, yeah, look, she's probably doing something for the cameras, but people in the comments were like, "What? She—Brian would probably behind the scenes—Brian is still trying to smash." No, I'm not—I don't want to [__] a girl one time who's—I'm not—just point blank—period. But then add on top that she does porn. There's—there's videos of her [__] other dudes on the internet. Uh, she's got a high body count. I'm not about it. I do want to bring up something, Brian, if I could. Earlier we were kind of joking, but we joked about NDAs, and you made a comment, "Should I start having women sign NDAs?" But you just stated that you don't do casual hookups or casual relationships. No, but I could—I could be dating a girl, and if we break up, that could still—she could still choose to like publicly talk about me, so an NDA would protect me in the event of casual sex or in the event of a long-term relationship. Okay, I was just wondering on that. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm not—yeah, but I'm—I'm unreasonable according to you. I mean, I just—before you further explained the whole lant situation—yeah, I did think that what you said was unreasonable for you to just meet someone and say, "Okay, I'm going to start dating them," and then just expect them to not be dating—well, I want to—the—the most Optimum situation is she's properly single when she meets me, so there's no need for me to give her leeway. She's not going on dates with other men. She's not currently sleeping with another man. It's been months or longer the last time she dated a guy or slept with a guy. That's the most Optimum situation. You've come to me properly single and uh—how are you meeting these ladies? How do you know that they—not that girl ain't going to be on the dating app. I can tell you that much, but yeah, I'm just wondering where they like—are we like bumping into me organically? Yeah, like—but how—walking in the store—like don't nobody talk to you when you go to the grass—the gas station or what—grocer—St—oh, they slide into the DMs obviously. I mean that too, but you still get organic when you walking around—people still—I would think that cuz you're pretty F—A—thanks. But no, I had someone cat call me outside of um, 7-Eleven actually. That was nice. And again, just like to bring it back—men, if you're watching—bare minimum—bare minimum—you don't have to go to the extent that I go. You don't have to date women who are sleeping with other men. Please let that be your bare minimum standard. Do not even go on a first date, and I don't recommend even having—CU—some of these guys out here are saying, "Well, if she's hone around, then I'm going to—" She's recreational use only. No, she's—she's—she's nothing to you. You shouldn't even have casual sex with a woman who's [__] other dudes. Trust me, dudes, it ain't—it ain't worth it. Trust me. So uh, your bare minimum—even if you're out there for casual sex, gentlemen—I don't know—it just—you're trying hard to convince other people of how to think and how to move, and it doesn't work like that because I'm a thought leader, but you can't change how people think off of one opinion. It doesn't work. I—a—I'm the Trailblazer here, and I'm [__]—I'm—I'm doing uh, trailblazing. I'm trailblazing. Yes, I'm a—a thought leader, and listen, gentlemen, bare minimum—nothing—not even casual sex with the girl who [__] other men. You'll thank me. You'll thank me, gentlemen. You'll thank me for it. Okay. Do you run into the um, the feeder thing? What is—what is that? Milkers? You mean milkers? What is—what is that? The—the feeders? They like—want—they pay to eat—they want you to be—

To get, oh no, I've never come across any yet. People actually, I just feel like they will one day. Here we have, uh, yeah, I mean that's a phenomenon that I didn't even know existed.

And okay, uh, Alexis, you said mostly about the way this generation—you want to talk about how the mostly about the way this generation is? Girlfriends of mine who accept so much less. Do you care to elaborate on on that?

I mean, I think we've kind of covered it, and we're a little bit off topic there, like, you know, with what else we were talking about.

Wait, off topic? What do you mean with we? If we were continuing the conversation, I just felt like it moved in a different direction. I don't know that my prompt was enough to pick it up. Um, I'm so glad I'm not dating. Donated $100 LOL. Happily married, two kids, one on the way, successful business, my own property's, have to worry about, watch Butler's weekly prescription is going to be after intercourse, like you smiley face. So why are you telling us all your your rundown though? If you want us, Butler, by the way, Jay Butler's been here for like 30 consecutive shows, all of—Where's the herpes talk? Um, you already had it, I guess so. Um, someone is deeply offended. Why me having a sex life? And I'm so sorry about that.

It's okay, don't worry. Uh, Alexis, I've I had my back and forth with her. I'm now getting to your notes here, and so I'm shifting gears.

Yeah, yeah. So you stated in your pre-show notes, girlfriends of mine who accept so much less. Forgive me if you did, you talk about, you already talked about that. Um, okay, so what I meant in my pre-show notes, I guess, is it's it's um, I guess it was part of a broader—I thought it would be part of a broader conversation, but I guess my main point is that kind of returning to the traditional conversation in what girls who want to follow a tradition path think they—I think realign with what guys are willing to give, especially in this generation, um, because of non-traditional lifestyles and because of um, I think what they've been made to accept is uh—

Mhm.

Is really my point. Yeah, I'd say like obviously not from me because I don't live the traditional lifestyle, which we have decided, um, but I do have have loads of friends who have put up, and even before I got into this job actually, when I did live the traditional lifestyle at University and all that kind of stuff, people do just kind of almost like want to be with somebody, and they'll take it and get treated really badly. And I think that is like something that you—it's sad when you see your like best friends go through that because you're like, you're so much better, you're so much more worth that than how they're treating you. And I feel like some men just don't do it right.

Well, and I think that it's you—I think it's I think it's on both sides. I think that, you know, I see a lot of women not wanting to, you know, they kind of go out, I just don't want to be lonely, like I'd rather be with someone than be lonely. And I think that ultimately this creates a settling culture, and then people see, you know, social media, we have so much at our fingertips. Uh, we were not supposed to access this many people; we were supposed to be part of much smaller groups. And I think that it's changed the way that people look at things. People are statistically have never been lonelier.

I really don't feel like women's standards are too low, got to be honest with you. No, I feel like some are very high, but I feel—

Hold, no, no, no, hold on, this is for Alexis to respond to.

Oh, sorry. Yeah, I just don't feel like women's standards are too low. If they're settling, they're probably actually not settling; they probably get generally probably getting somebody who's equally yolked with them, generally. That's that's what I would—that's been my observation.

I I I get what you're saying, and I tend to agree in some part. I think that people do get what they set out for and what they, you know, as I said, it's reciprocal, but I also think that girls might be giving a lot or think that they're giving a lot or live their life a certain way, and then they accept something that's much less than that.

Well, elaborate on that. I think people, you know, I know girls who live a very traditional life, and they want to, you know, give everything to their boyfriends and, you know, be very faithful and have a lot of integrity and uh, be very trustworthy, and I can't say the same about their boyfriends. And that's where are all those women off of the internet?

Yeah, well, I mean, I mean honestly, like, where where are all those women? Because right now what you're talking about, there's guys out there who are watching this who would pay you whatever you wanted in order to go to wherever these women are that you're talking about.

Well, that's the thing, and then maybe that's the disparity. They're not on dating apps; they're not really on social media. They have like social media because they had it in college; it's just, you know, that's that's kind of the thing. What what's easily acceptable, what's on, you know, readily available on YouTube or OnlyFans or whatever pod, you know, it's not necessarily—you're you're getting a hand selection of people who may be—that that's not what you're seeing, which I understand. I'm not disagreeing with you. I do think those women exist, but I do think that a majority of them just get brainwashed by their friends telling them that they don't need a man anymore that doesn't give you what you want, so they just play into this like, yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know if I agree on the the whole standards too low for for women; they just have such low stand—it seems to be the opposite of—

Here's the thing, I'm I'm a big advoc advocate for guys. I'm not knocking what guys are doing; I'm not like a—I'm the last person to carry the Pitchfork on that. It's more just—I think it's a I think it's a generational problem where it it perpetuates the issue. You see women settling for less. Nice guys think that there's a—and I'm not saying it starts there; I'm saying it's a circle. You know, it starts the nice guy trope of, you know, oh, like there's no nice guys out there, and then nice guys think they finish last, and then there's just—I just feel like there's a lot there being encouraged within the generation.

I mean, I I I think so. I see it a lot. We do man on the streets; we talk to people; we talk about dating apps a lot. It's it's kind of what you find out there.

I still don't know what you're finding out there. I'm like, I'm honestly, I'm still confused. What is it that you're finding that that there's women who are giving too much of themselves to men or being too fa—I don't I don't actually understand.

I I guess what I'm saying is the way that the generation is sets up how both of the genders um are perceived, and I'm also going off of something that wasn't a prompt. Um, we kind of had a back and forth, and I have been—my show notes were very brief, and so I'm I'm kind of explaining something that I thought would be um a broader conversation, and so I'm not not really sure.

Okay, I get where I get where you're coming from there. I'm not dissing guys. I think that guys often are the are the winners in the situation. I think there are a lot of good guys out there who do feel as though they they can't find—I think you're right; it's like a vice versa. Like, guys go out there like girls go out there looking for someone; they can't find this the high standards they've set, so they lower them in order to get into a relationship. It's a never-ending cycle. And then there's guys that go out there, and they're like, I really like—they're looking for their traditional woman; they kind of can't find her, so they find like a less traditional woman, and that makes them sad too.

Yeah, and the internet, I mean, transparently is very sexualized, so I think guys think that they need to be doing more, girls think that they need to be doing more; they keep one-upping each other until everyone thinks everyone's kinky, and it might just all be more normal than we think, but everyone's you—it's it's it's perpetuated by social media.

On the standards thing really quick, Nick, can you pull up in the Dropbox podcast infographics folder? It's the hypergamy uh infographics, and Alexis, to tie this back to the rating 1 to 10 question, which you chose to admit answering to, um, kind of how this is potentially tied in into that is that you have—cuz you're saying that well, women are lowering their standards or they have low standards for men, but but I actually think that women have way too high standards. Like, I don't think it's an issue of men having these crazy high standards and women having really low standards.

I mean, I agree with you; I I completely agree. I was the one arguing reciprocity earlier and normally standing up for guys. I think I was given an out-of-context prompt and nothing to go off of.

Wait, so are you—because these were—you provided that in your pre-show notes, so I'm just going off of what you had—you had written. You mentioned, you know, your girlfriends were uh—I guess kind of uh—wait, let me see, I want to misquote here, but you know, you said your girlfriends of mine who accept so much less. Uh, so uh, it just occurs to me, for example, with the rating scale of the 1 to 10 thing is, you know, a lot of women are kind of have an overinflated sense of self of their own uh attractiveness or value in the dating marketplace—not their human value, but their value in the dating marketplace—and so they're have—they have an expectation of partnering with a man who quite frankly is out of their league. And that's why the actual the question of asking someone to rate themselves on a scale of 1 to 10 is actually very important because if you don't have an accurate self-assessment of where you potentially stand or do stand in the dating marketplace, then you're going to be shooting outside of your league. And this is where women get into trouble because as a man, if I try to have casual sex, if I, you know, if I shoot my shot with a woman who's outside my league, hey, let's have casual sex—not that's not verbatim how I would go about it, but that's that's my angle—I get instant upfront rejection. I don't get a conversation with a girl who's out of my league; I don't get a date with a girl who's outside my league; I certainly don't get sex with a girl who's outside my league. Now, here's where women get into trouble. As women, men will welcome easy access to sex, so as a woman, you can secure sex from men who are outside of your league. It can be looks; it could be success; it could be socioeconomic status, whatever it may be. You can have a normal woman who's never achieved anything in her life having sex with a man who's at the apex of either looks, status—he could be a professional NBA player, NFL player, etc., etc.—she could be—no offense, I'm not making a judgment call on here—but she's a nobody, right? A nobody girl can go and sleep with an NFL, NBA player, famous rapper, Drake—Drake probably [ __ ] a bunch of nobody women—no offense to them, they're probably beautiful, but nobody status. So now—but they'll never—those women who can sleep with men outside their league are never most likely going to be able to secure commitment from those men. So what ends up happening is you have women who—they think they're—here for women—your league is not the men that you can sleep with; your league is the men that you can get commitment from and who will marry you. I wish I'd known that when I was like 14, 15, 16, 17, when I started like un like having sex because Jesus Christ, that made a lot more sense why I never got boyfriends.

Well, look, everybody wants the best that they can get, so obviously you want to get the the hot guy, but here's the problem—that hot guy—oh, she—okay, cool, I can use her for sex. And so again, that's that's the way a lot of women get into trouble. And here's the difference, right? So as a guy, if we can sleep with a girl, we can probably get that girl in a relationship, but if a—as a woman, if you can sleep with a man, it's not clear to me if you can get him into a relationship. So and and also we'll sleep with women and just using as a disqualifier just based on looks—just your looks—we will 100% disqualify you from a relationship, but we won't disqualify you from a sexual relationship, whereas for women it's the opposite. So for women, for you to sleep with a man, to have sex with a man, he typically has to be at least attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him, so that's a big differential. That's where women get into trouble, and that's why rating questions are important because if you don't have a good sense of where you where you stand, you're going to be aiming for guys outside of your league; you're going to get used, and um, I also think that women tend to rate themselves off of self-esteem rather than off of physical looks.

Yeah, this is what I've noticed many times is like obviously there's women who I've seen in this show who have given ridiculous numbers in comparison to how they look, and when I ask them why, they basically say it's because—for me, it's self-esteem. What I'm telling you is the personification of how I feel about me; it's my self-esteem. That's not really what the question's asking though, but you say—he acts—how do you how do you feel about you? Like, what do you rate yourself? That's what he asked me; he didn't say—when he asked me clearly—what if I took you to such and such, how would they rate you? Clearly, they're going to rate me lower than what I think of me, so I'm not—Sig, you're a 10. I think Sigap would—yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going to um, the fraternity she was talking about the Frat—oh no, I'm not going to um be delusional and be like, hey, you know, everybody thinks I'm this or that. And then also it's for the people who are looking for those type of relationships; it's some people who are actually fine with not doing that, being in a relationship. For me, the reason why I don't want to be in a relationship, I'm going to tell you, is because working uh with the elderly—the people who did have husbands and wives together—somebody dies, you know, first, and you are—even though you're not hurt right now—that person is hurt free until they die. Some of them even died from heart heart a—but you know this right because uh, you know, my mom, she was a she was do in—she was direct nursing and Elder Elder Care her whole life. Okay, and um, you know, the the men don't last long.

No, they don't. Women though last forever, don't they? You're going to be—they just keep going and going and going, gu—like, oh, I'm hot, broke, and he dies.

No, but the women do too though, the women—my my—not the same as the men.

Yes, I'm—tell—Nick, do you have the chart? One of the women is—it you want—hypergamy? Hypergamy, H two, three, and four? Oh, there's multiple—and let me just double check on that. I thought there were—oh, you're right, uh, there are different ones. Um, so on the left, you have whom men would happily partner with, and then you have whom women would happily partner with, and this is played out on dating apps. So you basically have all women—the majority of women who are all chasing after the top percentage of men on dating apps. It's something like an uh an estimated 10% of men on dating apps are being pursued by the overwhelming majority of women, most of whom are trying to date well above what their own looks, prospects, and personalities warrant.

So damn, yeah, I mean, hey, that's for them. Me personally, it's a different story for me because I have such a high following, so I have a lot of guys who come to me. I don't have to go searching for nobody; I don't I don't have to get to on a dating app; I don't have to do none of that because they're going to come; they're going to inbox me; they're going to want me. I just don't want them in that way because I totally agree with you what you guys are saying—like, if you feel that way, I don't want you to be in my circle. If you feel like I'm disgusting, why would I be want to be with you? Why would I want you to—

I didn't say—I didn't say you did say that you said what you do is disgusting.

What—hold—no, don't put words in my mouth.

Did you—did—but no, no, no, no, no, yes, she did. I I'm fairly confident I didn't say you guys are disgusting.

No, she said what you—you said what we—we do—no, I don't think I said that. You were talking about the—he was talking specifically—hang on, I'm not I'm really not gaslighting you. I remember the conversation.

Well, we could watch it back later on. Yeah, but what he's—he was talking about is dating standards, and he said if you're having sex with another uh guy—we're talking about the people who do porn—he was saying people who do porn should not deal with us because we have sex with multiple people, and he feels it's disgusting. That's what he said.

Wait, no, that was him. Oh, I mean, I did use the word—okay, here's what I'm—said pretty sure—no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no—the okay, look, we've had a long conversation; it's been a long day. I'm pretty certain what I said was the thought of me sleeping with a woman who's sleeping with other men is disgusting. That's what I heard; that's the way I typically frame my argument. Maybe I heard it wrong; maybe we'd have to go back, but yes, uh, the the thought of having sex or dating a woman who's sleeping with other men, yes, that is—I'm sorry, it's disgusting.

That's okay for you; you don't have to be sorry because you feel that way, and it's it's okay to feel that way. That is disgusting to you because that's your perspective, and that's what you like, so you—you sleeping with men is not disgusting, but if I was dating a woman and she was sleeping with other men while I was having sex with her, yes, that's disgusting, right? And you are all [ __ ] disgusting. You should have—you should be able to express yourself that way and feel that way because that's the person you're going to be with. You feel what I'm saying?

I feel it. I've already—listen, my porn is already out there; there's never going to change that. I haven't had my porn out there, so I just have to go with what it is. Like, I'm to set myself up for stupid—exactly like it is. Look, you'll find the—there's there's guys out there that are fine with it. It's fine; it's fine—literally is what I'm trying to say. Women don't want to date me cuz I'm got a podcast; it's fine. I get it; I accept it. I accept it. You should see my DMs—holy [ __ ]—they don't like the podcast. All right, question for you though, you mind—would you be friend—wait, what's that, Nick?

No, it's okay. Would you be friends—like close friends—with a p sta—

Um, would I be—if I would be uh like a like a like a actual prop proper friend, you know, like somebody you go for drinks with? No, that—wow. I could have a professional relationship with with the woman who uh, you know, I invite them on my show, some of—and some of them I invite back on—and I have a courteous professional working relationship with them. Um, I mean, I I'm typically friendship though, right? I'm typically not friends, and honestly, I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so my my friend's circle is already very insulated and small to begin with. I'mma be honest; I mean, I'm not really uh—I don't I don't have any female friends.

Fair—no, that's fair. I was just curious, like, would you though—say if like—would I—yeah, like if you got on with them really well and they were just—I feel like we would—there's such a difference—I or you met like—play of Warcraft and then like a found out she—I don't I don't play any video games, but um, if I—I used to uh, but I quit. Uh, is it—it's possible I could be friends with a woman, but like you have to understand how much of a lone woman wolf I am, like, and I'm so busy, like I don't even have a lot of time for male friends, so um, is it possible—so it's like—it's like maybe—is it not—I could be friends with a woman; I could—I don't have any, but I could—it would probably—the thing is is that when it comes to uh uh friendships with the opposite sex, there is—when it comes to when you eventually have a long-term Rel relationship, there is some degree of impropriety uh I think—no, there's always a complication, isn't there? Like some people like—there's always going to be a me—one of the party there's either—but like to me, for example, let let's say I I genuinely wanted to be platonic friends with a woman, but I know that she could in the future meet a man who is going to say, you can't be friends with this person, so why would I invest and develop a friendship where there's a very good likelihood that if she gets romantically involved with a man or marries a man, he's going to view our friendship as uh troublesome or problematic, and that's going to be the destruction of our friendship, so why even bother building one? Now listen, I I think I can have female acquaintances and professional relationships with with women, but um, like, for example, if I was dating a girl and she had a male best friend and I'm trying to take her serious, I'm like, you can't be hanging out alone with that dude. Oh, you can't hang out alone with that guy. Oh, interesting. You can't be friends with your exes.

Yeah, that's a—that's a—so that's a—it's it's this impropriety, so uh soes—no thanks. Look, and maybe I'm friends with a woman and her boyfriend or husband doesn't have issue with our friendship; it's possible, but why again, why would I want to invest time and energy into developing a friendship with someone where it's like she could meet a dude and the dude's like, yo, the [ __ ]—you can't be like friends with this person.

So yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, but I'll be friendly with—I would be friendly with uh, you know—yeah, treat him like a coworker.

Yeah, a coworker. Well, I feel like as well when you get into like so much Social Media stuff, you actually don't really have time for anything else other than just like associations through like business and like networking. There's no—yeah, I'm too busy anyways. Okay, um, let's see here, we got uh—sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to [ __ ] up your name—Malik—Malik—Malik. Okay, you said you're uh conservative, moderate. You said you once went on a date with a guy who used to have a crush on your older sister. Do you want to tell us the story on that quick?

Um, that I don't—I haven't had any crazy date experiences. Um, that was just an awkward one I thought of. Um, yeah, a guy asked me out on a date. Um, it was really awkward; he went on a rant about how he used to have a crush on my older sister. I informed him she's now engaged, um, and it just—it—it wasn't good, and we then proceed to hang out for like another 5, 6 hours and just went downhill the entire—

Know he just got upset, um, and left, like left the theater. We were the only ones there, um, drove off, and I ended up calling his sister to pick me up.

Oh wow. Oh oh, cuz I was stranded there at night. Was it the first date? Um, no, it was like a third or fourth date, I think. Um, it was was good before the—not really. Um, wait, well, why did you keep going on dates then? I don't know. I, he, I wanted to believe he was a good person because there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with him as a person; he was just very immature.

Um, okay. And I kind of want to give him a chance, but I think he made a comment like, "Oh, see if you can find my last name in the credits," and I replied, "Oh, that's boring," and he just stormed off. Like, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. There's the the story develops, so he was in the movie. Yes, we watched the whole movie, and so he was he was not an actor. We were sitting at the theater, and oh, but he was he he was credited in the film. No, when the credits were playing, he said, "See if you can find," like he had a common last name. He said, "See if you can find my last name," and I said, "That's boring," and he got really triggered by me finding that to be boring, which it was. So he wasn't actually in the credits, but he had a common last name, and it was like, "Oh, let's play a game of let's see if we can find our name," but who sticks around for the credits anyway? Like it, the end, the little bit, the end, it's over, just get up and leave. Start rolling.

Oh, okay, okay. He left and he stormed out. He dropped—how did you say it? So okay, how did you say "that's boring"? I just like, "That's boring." I don't know. I probably—he probably wanted to be like—I think guys want to be viewed kind—oh, I don't know if this is the right phrasing, but mhm, he wants to be viewed as like the superhero in your life, and I know that's that's a bit of an exaggeration, but like he probably didn't feel respected in that moment. Granted, like he kind he kind of sounds like a [ __ ]—like, roll with the punches a little bit, but maybe you like said it in a kind of like—men want to feel respected, right? And you could have probably uh obliged him, I guess. I guess, but we were just—B—but he's also kind of a [ __ ].

I yeah, it was I I don't I I think any respectable man—and he left. He like he left you an hour away from your house, right? Drove off, left. Um, yeah. A little big P—whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Say that. What are you talking about? Big P energy, but you're saying that sarcastically, like he's got Little D energy? Is that—yeah. Wait, hold on. First off, I don't know if LP is in the chat. I object to these terms. Big D energy and little D—G—offend—it's funny though, but here, let me uh let me let me make my case here. Let me make my argument. So if it's okay to use the terms Big D energy or more specifically Little D energy, well, it should also be okay to say loose [ __ ] energy. I knew you were going uh small titty energy. I'm I'm actually a fan of small titties, but that's not dumb skank energy. That's my favorite one. Cavernous cavernous vag energy. Stinky [ __ ] energy. Wow. If it's okay to you know use this ter—little little D energy, we should also be okay with—yeah, didn't have a issue with y'all calling us loose earlier. Definitely called us loose. So I got beend—I don't know if it was you—somebody said loose—not loose [ __ ], just like loose, but that's what—what is loose then? What what is loose? Loose with your morals? Oh, okay. I'll take that. I'll take—okay. All right. What's up? What's up? Let's go. Let's go. All you know I don't think uh—but we didn't get offended. Okay. Well, okay, guys, go to twitch.tv whatever. Drop us a follow. Drop us a primes up. Subscribe to our second Clips uh this the whatever second Clips Channel. Trying to get 1 million Subs. We're 75k away. Check it out, guys. Okay. Wait, so the movie theater thing—um, I haven't had really any c—i I have been on like four First Dates ever. I like I said, I don't really have time for dating, so I don't have any like crazy outrageous—I I [ __ ] a guy in front of a his entire family in a basement stories. I don't—about that—not you. What about that time that old creepy dude tried to give you a car on the internet? Who currently lives in an RV who's—you know—which which one would you be? Well, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not naming—I'm not going to name names. We're not going to name names. Who shall not be named. What about the time that guy on the internet tried to give you a car and then told you he you could sleep in his bed and if you came and visited him? Wait, what? What? What about that? You know that what—okay. Um, wait, where are you getting this from? So we've we've collaborated before on YouTube. Oh, I didn't I didn't know that. I had no idea. Wait, you guys should have told me that you guys—okay. All right. Um, and so the person we collaborated with—um, I used to do a show with him where—real sick [ __ ] this guy, by the way. He he would—who I I'm not—can't name him. Yeah, yeah. They they—Who Shall Not Be Named. Okay. I don't know who—I don't know who it is. Yeah, should I name the person's—don't even name any of it. Okay, so yeah, there there's another Creator on YouTube that um hosts shows. I don't know who goe—go—I'm sorry. I'm I'm not part of this. I don't know who they're talking about. So yeah, the two of us—me, Andrew and I met—um, on a collaboration with another Creator and on um that person's show, they would bring on a lot of men, especially older men or or more lonely men, and basically coach them how to have social interactions, how to interact with women—um, about like patriarchy, feminism, all that—um, and there was a couple individuals that were brought on the show to interact with me, and they ended up just being weird dudes on the inter—internet, as you would assume. And one of them in particular—old old guy, old guy who may or may not have creep—sexual relationship with his daughter—um, who—but oh God, he—um, was interested in me, and I—after I rejected him, obviously, he was trying to entice me to drive to his house to get a free car—um, the only requirement was I had to sleep in his—before he even said the requirements, I was like, "No, I don't want anything to do with you. I don't want your money. I don't want your cars"—um, and yeah, that just got it got taken out of context. That discussion got on a bunch of other creators' um shows, and it was just dragged through a lot—the I guess speculation on whether or not I just said no for the camera and then accepted the car, but no, it was an—AB—I don't know if I want the whatever podcast to be like the gossip—I don't know if I want—well, it was it was it was creepy. I'll tell you—no, he was extremely creepy, and like I said, there's other speculations. Wait, is this is this already public—publicly out there? Is this okay? Because I don't want to be the channel that's like—no, no, no. This is old. This is—it's publicly been discussed already. There's much—there's—it's a whole rabbit hole. All right, I'm not part of—I don't want to be part—um, all right. Uh, I think uh—oh, you said also modern dating is pathetic. Expectations are too high, standards too low. Above average men telling below average men how to get multiple women while also saying all women are three out foes and then being a three out foe is too normalized, etc. Wait, so you said expectations are too high, standards too low—for men, for women, for both? What care to expand and elaborate? Oh, me or—yes, girl, you—I'm sorry. Yes, yes. Um, so can you just restate my point? The [ __ ] are you doing? I was I was thinking about how I I want to eat a banana—expect—not in a sexual way. What a traditional thing to say. So no, I I just—when I when I do shows or live streams, I like—haram eat bananas. Yes. Okay. Modern dating is pathetic. Expectations are too high and standards too low. Above average men telling below average men how to get multiple women while ALS say all wom are—being a—is normalized. Let's start with expectations are too high and standards too low—for men, for women, for both. Okay, so I think—so men's expectations are too high—how? Yes. Men have expectations that women are going to be virgins and not have exes and not be tarnished and be perfect, and they themselves may not—this isn't every—just—I think generalized—sure—um, when they themselves may not take care of themselves. They may not—they may want a stay-at-home wife but not be financially or mentally able to—um, even sustain that. Yep. You should—if you want a stay-at-home life, you should probably be able to provide for it. Agree there. And then uh where I said the above average men telling below average men how to get women—um, you see a lot of shows, including yours, where you're stating to—ideally below average men who are looking up to you for advice—what evidence do you have that the men who are watching the show are below average? Not not this show particular, but a lot of men that watch dating shows or podcast—how know—like, they may very well be below average, but how would you know? I I I've interacted with the audiences of multiple—you've interacted—you've interacted with whatever viewers. I said not this podcast specifically, but I don't know how you would know. Below—she talking about like pickup channels and [ __ ] like that, right? Yeah, like pickup channels and all that. They they watch these above average men—this is a whole different scenario though, Melik. This is—people tune in to the whatever podcast not really for dating advice. They're looking for the—yeah, I don't really give dating advice. They're really actually looking for kind of the interpersonal exchange that people are having, the men and women are having, so that they can understand the different World Views and purviews. I wasn't saying to the whatever podcast. I just want to say all my patrons and supporters and all the TTS—those guys are above average. Yeah. Well, so I was not—and in my in my message, I did not state that whatever podcast was—well, I just think there's a lot of Internet Outlets of above average men, using Andre t as an example, where they preach to men who probably aren't above average, and they tell these men to get these above average women and how to get these above average women. It just turns into a cycle of the men being insecure because they won't amount to that and then lowering their standards below what they should—just have desperation and being lonely, and then it cycles back to women not being able to find good quality men, lowering their standards, like Alexis was saying before. It's just a cycle of men and women not—standards. Well, a couple things there. So first off, below average men can't get multiple women—uh, below average men can't even get below average women because of the chart. I don't know if you're able to pull it back up, Nick, because of basically the rampant hypergamy that's uh going on to day. Is it—did you close it out? But that's why a lot of times—so this is the women on the right, men on the left—who men would happily partner with, who women would happily partner with. Look, that's not—of course, below average people end up with below average people, but there are—there's a decent cohort of men who are getting absolutely zeroed out of the dating Marketplace—um, but so it's not clear to me if below average men are even interested in getting multiple women. I think a lot of them would be happy with just a girlfriend who's on on his level, in his league, and just having a monogamous relationship. I think that's the case for most men. I AG—I I do agree with that. I just find that a lot of times they're their expectations are higher than their own like rank Kings. Well, I agree with you. It's—I think it's both ways. I agree with you that there are other people out there in the content creation space who are saying, "Well, you should have multiple women," and and like the reality is most men are going to be—that's the whole like Riz culture, isn't it?—most men are not going to be able to maneuver—are not going to be able to uh have that kind of arrangement with getting multiple women, and I think a lot of them don't want to. So but yeah, I I agree with you, but you said expectations are too high, and you also mentioned—well, men wanting women who are virgins—is that is that like a too high of an expectation? I think—not that there's anything wrong with that, but if a man has a high body count and only wants to date—um, or sleep with virgins, I find it creepy, honestly.

Oh, okay. Well, we can get into that—um, I find it—no, I I do because if you yourself are not saving yourself for marriage, and it's not like a religious thing where you think you can sleep with whoever—it becomes a religious thing, but you—I mean, it's kind of too late for that, but no, it's kind of—so so so a woman can sleep—hang—hang—a woman can sleep with 100 men and wait till marriage. Let's back up. They do, but let's back up real quick. Okay, let's start with—you say, "Well, if it if it's not a religious thing, what if it becomes a religious thing?" I'm not saying it can't become a religious thing. Is it creepy then? But if a man has a body count of 100—MH—just using a random number—and only wants women who are virgins, I find that very creepy and almost predatory. What if—what if you get—well, hang on, let me finish. Yeah, so let's say he gets to 100—okay, gets to 100, converts to Christianity, says, "I want to get married to a virgin, but I'm not going to sleep with her before we're married." Is that still creepy? Why would you want to answer the question: Is it still creepy? I do think it's still creepy. That I find it almost fetishizing the fact that she's a virgin, even if you still—why would it be a fetish? So I just don't see the requir—is that under the purview of his religious belief? Okay. If you want someone with a low body count or someone who also wants to wait for marriage, why not a virgin? That's the lowest body count. Okay, so why—why do you want that? Well, what if—what if he's doing it via Divine command? What if they think it's divine command, but you yourself were not—I didn't say I was, but I'm asking—hypocritical. It's not hypocritical. What—where's the hypocrisy? It's—being hypocritical because you yourself are not a virgin and you're only looking to marry a vir—despite whether or not she's had 100 bodies in house and saying, "I'll wait till the marriage for my 10st body." What you've just done is made an argument from hypocrisy, which is a fallacy, right? So can you make the argument not from hypocrisy and give me an actual argument for why that's in any way, shape, or form wrong? I never said it's wrong. I—you said it was predatory and creepy. Well, okay, I—well, predatory sounds pretty wrong. Okay, I do think it it's a little off if a man wants a virgin and they themselves were not in the past. Yeah, you find your preferences because my—just say my preference, but there's no real virgins. When men think of virgins, they typically think of the adjectives innocent, young, virtuous, pous, fine, pure—um, pure. So so men—so men who find virtue are not allowed to go for maximum virtue? Check. Before I answer that—before I answer that. Okay, okay. If there was a woman who—let's just say—not even 100—10 bodies, right? Mhm. She has 10 bodies. She said, "You know what? I found God. I'm going to wait till marriage for the rest," and that same man who has had a hundred bodies and now has reformed and found God and wants to wait till marriage automatically disqualifies her just for the fact that she is not a virgin. What's he doing wrong? You don't find that creepy at all? No. What's he doing wrong? He's not—he's not necessarily doing anything wrong. Okay, so hang on, hang on. He's not doing anything wrong. He's not doing anything immoral. He's also doing something—is maximum virtue from your purview. So tell me why do you find it creepy outside of it just gives me the ick. It's the same instance. No, no—anything besides it just gives me the ick. I will—okay, okay. Can I ask you another question before I do? You find a 40-year-old man sleeping with an 18-year-old woman to be creepy? Don't give a flying [ __ ]. Not even a little. I personally find that creepy and predatory. Do you think she should vote? That's a whole other—oh, well, wait a second. You don't want this dumb chick who—these evil Predators can just come and mangle her brain. You don't want them to be able to—hang on. You don't want them to be able to vote and then cancel out the well-informed vote. 40-year-old men—do you keep it here? Why does any 40-year-old men—you're halfway through your life—want to have sex with someone fresh out of high school or still in high school? Well, okay, who gives a [ __ ]? Yeah, who gives a [ __ ]? Why is it that 18-year-old women should be alive to vote? I never said they should or shouldn't. Should 21-y-old be allowed to vote? I think that high schoolers maybe should not vote—um, but at 18—that's a whole—yeah, a lot of 18-year-olds are still in high school are just graduating. So then why not just Advocate this instead—instead of saying, "I find it creepy"—the age Gap, right? Yes. Why not just say, "I want to raise the age of consent to 21 because I don't think the age of consent should be raised to 20," right? Okay, so just the age of consent—between—too much of an age Gap? How much is the age Gap that you think is too much? What's that equation? Divided by 2 plus 7 or something? So that's just all ick though, isn't that just all—I I don't think so. Like, can a 40-year-old man hook up with a 70-year-old woman? Can—can he marry a 70-year-old woman? Is that too much of an age Gap? They can. I think an 18-year-old is a child. I think anyone under 25 does not have a fully developed brain. Then why are they [ __ ] allowed to vote and join the military and do all this other [ __ ] [ __ ]? Why can they buy cigarettes? Why can they buy beer? Why could they drive cars? What are you doing? 18-year-olds cannot buy beer. No, you said up until 25 their brains aren't ful devel—rest. So why don't—not—no, at 21, all restrictions are basically gone—sming at 21—GS—no, at 25—wait, wait, wait, wait, back up, back up, back up. First of all, uh, at 21 years old, basically all restrictions off the table, right? There's very few that aren't there. And when it comes to—when it comes to like getting a car, that's because of insurance purposes. 25-year-olds have way more experience driving—that's why it's fair—simple, right? So we move back—like 25-year-olds have much more life experience. Yeah, but here's the question, right? Why is it that a 40-year-old and 18-year-old can't make the decision to get married, right? Hang on, hang on—or hook up or whatever it is they want to do, right? But the 18-year-old can nullify the vote of the 40-year-old if you think that the disparity in their brains are that bad. BR up the voting argument when I never mentioned voting. I know. I mentioned it because I'm giving you an analogy for why your argument is absurd. I'm giving you an analogy by pointing out this thing over here exists and is fine cuz Schrodinger's feminist who can both vote and is a girl boss and is an ass KCK could do everything at 18 years old suddenly is matched up with an evil 40-year-old Sith Lord who just wants to mangle her [ __ ] brain so he can sleep with her. Is she competent enough to deal with this this ass-kicking feminist, or do we need to raise the age of consent so that this hyper predatory Sith Lord can't mangle her brain? Most 40-year-old men at some point in their life when they were younger had a child that is probably 18 or older. So if you are at an age where you're sleeping with woman the age of potentially your own daughter, I find that extremely predatory and creeping. Well, I find it predatory that that woman could be sleeping with a man the age of her father. You can't even—what a sick [ __ ]. What a sick [ __ ]. You take that [ __ ] to prison. Oh my God. You can't even have a serious conversation. That's a serious argument. It's as serious of an argument as your argument. I can't believe he's sleeping with them at the AG—daughter. I can't believe she's sleeping with someone in the age of her father. It's the—I stated the fact that men specifically want younger women, and and I just stated that in this case the younger woman must also want the man. I agree, and I think that's weird. Okay, but there's a completely different aspect—this makes no sense. What are you talk—if she wants it and he wants it—your problem is just—it gives me the ick. No. So so let's let's just say it gives you the ick. You're never going to win this argument. So there's an 18-year-old with a body count of a 100, and she finds a 40-year-old Virgin dude, and she wants to train him to be her husband and to take care of him and look after him and all that. I mean, everyone has their own cup of tea, but that's weird. Why would an eight—18-year-old—what do you mean train him? She's an adult. She can make her own decision. Most 40-year-old men who are looking for virgins or 18, 19-year-old women want to train them how to be their woman. That's why they go for the innocent young women. Oh, they don't want someone with prior experience. Oh, and so why are those younger women going for those older men? It's typically the men who go for the younger women, but why are those women going—the older men have convinced them because they're young and—no, I think that the younger women just want their [ __ ] resources and are using their beauty in order to entice them so they can take all their [ __ ]. You tell me why I'm wrong and you're right. I didn't say you're not wrong, but I don't—so what makes you right? I'm just making the point that I think men—now tell me why I'm WR—older men focusing on wanting virgins is very creepy. Well, I think that younger women—and yes, the fact that younger women will entice these 40-year-old men to take their resources—I think that's creepy. I don't know why you're so defensive. If you married—want to have sex with an 18-year-old woman? Oh my God. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? What does it have to do with anything? Can you answer yes or no? What—what was the question? You—unmarried man—would you want to have sex with an 18-year-old woman? No, I wouldn't. That wouldn't be my preference, cuz it's not my preference, but if it were, I wouldn't see anything wrong with it, and you wouldn't either. You got—you have—you have no moral—no moral argument—not a single one. You have not a single argument that you've given thus far other than it [ __ ] icky. Now, when you're ready to give me an argument—and I'm going to sit here and wait—I gave you AR—just because you dismissed them—hang.

On, hang on. I'm going to wait to hear anything other than "it gives me the ick." Go ahead. I said there is a high likelihood that that man might have a daughter the same age as this woman he wants to have sex with, so that is morally wrong. Why? Cuz she feels like it? Why is that wrong? Because a man should not be sexualizing women his daughter's age. What if his daughter's 30? Wait, can I jump in on this? Qui, hangang on. What if his daughter's 30? Oh my, if his daughter's honestly, if you think it's okay to [__] what if he's 50 and his daughter's 30, and she brings a friend home who's also 30? Is he a [__] creep? I find that yes, it's so—why is that immoral again? It's, it's okay. I, I will say it is my opinion. It is my opinion. BAS, just say it's ick. Why? Why just take the L and say the ick? It's not taking—just take the L and say it's the ick. Andrew, I have zero arguments at all. Just say it. I stated multiple arguments. I said her brain is not fully developed; she's young, probably fresh out of high school; she does not have nearly as much life experience. That man is old enough to be her father. So is it immoral? Years? I find it immoral. Yes. Okay, so let's start again. We'll start with the first one, which—give me the one argument you think where it's immoral. Let's start with that one. Go ahead.

I find it immoral and hypocritical. You can't make an argument from hypocrisy; it's vicious. So that's dismissed, but you can go ahead and make a different argument, which is moral. Do that. Yes, it is morally wrong if you are an older man who has had multiple sexual partners to only be interested in innocent, pure young women, to want to train them to be yours and potentially manipulate them into being yours. Great. Why is that immoral? Was the intent to manipulate? Why is that immoral? Yeah, for the 800th time, why? I said it is an opinion when it comes to that. Then that—not—it's just your opinion. It's a moral—yes, Le, your moral argument is it's my opinion. Sure, we'll say that. Sure. I'm going to go have a cigarette. I will take over. I'm going to take over there from there. Um, if you want to take a seat, our good Chilean Soldier, understand? I'll engage with you on the, on the debate, though. So okay. Um, so you think an 18-year-old woman cannot consent to sex with a man? You used—I never stated that. But you, you, you were making the argument that they aren't—their brains—I don't even know if this is true—that their brains are not fully developed. Your, your brain is not fully developed until you're 25. Yes, that is true. Okay, so because their brain is not developed until they're 25, they should—it was not what the argument wasn't even about age at first; it turned into that. It was about body—and—it was about virginity. I said I, I don't know why you're the one who brought being young into it, because a woman could be 25 and 30, and she could be actually fun—un—funnily enough, next week we're—we have a 39 and a 40-year-old Virg—uh, virgin women coming on the show. So you can be a virgin and be in your late 20s, 30s. Can die virgins. People can be a virgin at any age. Absolutely. You brought the young thing—the young—it, it was more of a question versus a debate. I was trying to understand why do men idolize—by the way, Andrew is cracking up, but I wish we had a camera. Andrew's cracking up out there. Oh no, you're good. I'm just telling them you're—we see you cracking up out there. Not what you said. Oh, okay. Something else. Okay. Um, we weren't laughing at Mal. I don't know why men idolize and glorify virgin—virgin and young women, especially considering if they are older or have—I kind of get that to a degree, cuz you obviously have this grooming culture. Oh my God. It's not grooming to desire a partner with a low body count. No, no, no. I'm not saying that they go hand in hand. I'm saying that a small minority of people that do go looking for a small body count do—in—do you think the majority of men who prefer women with a low body count or who prefer virgins are grooming women? That's—no, that's why I said let's just remove that off the table because it's kind of an exceptional uh scenario, and grooming is a very specific term here. How—okay. Um, so wait, I, I want to engage with you a little bit on this. So you said that people are not—their brains are not fully developed until they're the age of 25, right? Yes. So do you think then—and you think this is the case for both men and women, or is it just women who are, you know—I mean, you can fact-check me. I believe that's—no, but do you think it's—you think this applies more so to to women because typically men tend to have more of a preference towards younger—keyword—women, uh, and I think it's typically not the case for for women to prefer younger men. I mean, I, I think it goes—so do you think we should—you, you see it more in the man being older. Okay. So given the fact that you said that women should not be—I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, but you're saying that well, this is not okay because their brains are not developed until they're 25. Andrew already asked you this, but do you think we should roll back voting rights for women until they're 25? I think 25 is a bit steep for that. Um, so you think we should raise the vote—but I wouldn't be opposed to—for just women or for both men and women? For both men and women. I wouldn't be opposed to raising the minimum wage, however, for men, since men can be drafted at 18, I don't think it's fair to draft them and not have them be able to vote. So an 18-year-old man—is it creepy for him to go for a 40-year-old woman then? But if—no, but if a 40-year-old woman goes for an 18-year-old man, I do find that creepy. I mean, that's—know Amber Rose right now. Wait, so if the younger one goes for the older one, that's not creepy? Not necessarily. It—so, so then this is not a moral argument at all; this is just you got the ick, right? It's just you got the—but can you explain to me why men desire young, pure virgins? Well, yes, I can actually, and I can lay it out the best possible way. One, men value fertility. Two, the reason that they want women who have a low body count is because, until recently, technology has made it possible for us to determine whe—what are—whether or not the Offspring that we have is actually ours. Before that, what determined whether or not the Offspring was ours? So what if—hang on—before—for that, what determined if the Offspring was ours? What would be the best way for you to determine your Offspring was actually—you had sex with that person exclusively, right? And so promiscuity and multiple sex partners would definitely lower uh your um kind of ability to know whether or not the Offspring was—because if—why—if you find a woman who in the past had under five sexual partners—hasn't slept with anyone in years—yeah, a lot of men would still disqualify her from being in a romantic relationship just because she's not a virgin. Yeah, but you're asking—ask—you're making two bizarre distinctions, though. You're asking why would men be attracted to X, right, versus the descriptor of there's lots of men who, if you had X behavior, would push that aside. I can understand why they're attractive virgins, but specifically that they won't—even if the Bon's one, two, three—they—it's a hard no. Well, again, I don't think that's a lot of men's standards, but—but even if it is a considerable amount, though—but let's just say it was all of their standards, like all men—that was their standards, right? That old—I don't know—no Heyman—no diamond or whatever, right? No, no diamond, right? That's—that's all of their standards—it would still actually make sense as to why, because a woman who's a virgin and you're the person who—you know—takes that—you know what I mean—through marriage or whatever—you're an insurance of your Offspring actually being yours—is what percentage? It would be 100%. That's it. Now you know. She—mystery solved. If she has not had children in the past, how is that relevant? Well, because every single—because with every new—because with every new sexual partner uh you're—she's not having new—she is married to you. I understand. I'm trying to give you the rundown. With every new sexual partner that she's had, men intuitively understand that her pair bonding goes down, and so what they're worried about is, due to the promiscuity, that she'd be more likely to step out. Now, even that percentage could be low, super low, but you know who's the lowest with—who's it the lowest with? It is the lowest with virgins. It is the lowest with virgins. And how would you assure that your Offspring 100% was yours? If you have an exclusive relationship. It has nothing to do with virginity. Yeah, but does—because—because again, with promiscuity—because with promiscuity—I'm not saying this woman's promiscuous—yes, but with every new body count that a woman—she's not having new bodies—she's just—but with every new body count that she has, her ability to pair bond lowers, so your ability to note whether she's stepping out on you or not lessens significantly. I'll—this simple—right. Oh, okay. Young girls are basically—you can tell as soon as they open—open their mouth and say something—you're basically a P-word. You're fetishizing her youth and innocence. I think that she's fetishizing—I age with that. I think that she's fetishizing your experience and resources. That 18-year-old is a high schooler; they're basically a child. Wait, you agree with—you think men who are attracted to women who are 18 or 19 are PWs? I didn't say PW. I find—you said you agree with—I find it—I'll say—I'll make you happy—I find it icky. Go—I find it icky that men more than double a high schooler's age want to have sex or get married to her, and I don't find it icky. So now what do we do with this? I find you—icky. Yeah, I find you ickier. So now what do we do with this? Honestly, we just—we have a difference of opinions. We don't do anything with it. We don't do anything with it. So who gives a [__]? But this—okay, this all started from—first, we were talking about virginity. You brought youth into this conversation again. Let's assume that the woman's 25 or 30 and she's a virgin. So does it—is it—for example, is it icky for a 35-year-old to want to date a 25-year-old virgin? Is that icky? No, I don't find it icky. However, okay, I, I, I—when men typically want virgins, they don't say I want a virgin older than 25. I think they would be happy—I mean, virgin is probably okay—more important than age—say they want one at 24, like—what—I don't—I don't get the problem here. Let them find a 24-year-old virgin. I think I'd prefer to—I would certainly prefer—find it—just—it just feels almost like a fetish in some instances. It just feels like—to me—feels—so—whatever. Men—men are basically not allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries. It's always demonized or pathologized when men have some. It should be demonized for older men. Women are allowed to have preferences. Women are allowed to—what—women are allowed to have preferences. Okay, but a lot of—I said—yeah, but a lot of them are college age, too. But all that matters is that some could be in high school. But you see how disingenuous—you see how—you see how—no, no, no, no, hold on. But they would—it's funny to me how they'll always use a woman who's—she's in high school—she's 18—she must be in high school or she's a teenager. Bear in mind 13, 14—like that's also a teenager, but you're going to use like a 19-year-old woman—is technically a teenager—but you use very specific language to kind of give it the, the marketing spin of like—you're trying to paint—no, but you're using language to try to paint it in the most unflattering, bad light way, because I do find it to be negative. Okay, so what's uh—what's the oldest a 19-year-old woman could date? What's the oldest—I don't think she's a teenager, right? What's the oldest a 19-year-old woman can date without it being—she could date whoever she wants, but if she dates at a certain age, I'm going to find it [__] icky. Just say it. Just go ahead. I, I said it's—I don't think this goes both ways. If 19-year-olds are attracted to older men, that's just them being young and dumb. If older men are specifically—they, they don't know—they're 19; they don't know what life is like. So you're basically saying like an 18-year-old adult is incompetent in making decisions. Yes, which is exactly why we shouldn't consider 18-year-olds then to be adults. I was 18, literally in college. So you're saying like—at—a lot of 17-year-olds at that age are picking their futures. Do you think that they're in—he donated $100. Age gaps should be viewed by percentage of age. Men shouldn't be more than 20% older than the woman. Women shouldn't be 5% older than man. Anything outside of this is creepy or weird. 20-year-old—by the way, he put that in quotes—"creepy and weird." I—the username was—it's weird; it's creepy. Wait, so 18-year-old women should not be able to vote? Is that your position? I never said that. Stop putting words in my mouth, but okay. If they're—they're either adults or they're not. Okay, 18—you can't do Schrödinger's feminist. They're either adults or they're not adults. I never said they were not adults. If they're adults—legally an adult woman—well, I find it creepy. I find it creepy. 18-year-old women can vote. If—if I may—it gives me the ick. Okay, wait, so Andrew, let me just come in and say this. So Andrew already stated, for example, at 18, a woman can join the military; she can sign a legally binding contract; she can take out five or even six figures of student loans; uh, what else? She can—she can do everything—vote—the only thing she can't do is buy booze and smokes, basically. To—basically, should we increase the age to do all those things? I don't think so. Do—so then if—but if—okay, if they can join the milit—where they can go and get a [__] uh—go get [__] uh—shot at—deleted—in a war, don't you think that they can consent to having sex with a man? Never said they cannot consent. You both are twisting my words, and I don't know how you're not trying—how you don't understand the point. She consents, and he consents, and they're both adults. Yes, it—it would be consensual sex, but that doesn't mean the guy is not creepy or predatory to specifically want 18-year-old virgins. Why? What makes him creepy or predatory other than ick? Like I said, if I could talk to—about—you're at 19, correct? Mhm. If I can talk to you instead of the guy I'm arguing with—hold on—hold on—no, no—just—just for a sake of example—yeah—if—if 40 to 60-year-old men constantly hit on you, would you find that predatory or creepy? Honestly, um, well, in like a dating prospect—in a romantic prospect—it's just not my preference of men—but—or I'll even say your age group. If there was 40 to 60-year-old men who only wanted women your age, how would you feel about those types? I'm not surprised—like that—H—that exists. It exists. But just bite the bullet and say—sure, sure. Okay. Now let me ask you this question back. Now let me ask you this question back the other way. If she went out and hit on a bunch of 40-year-old men, is that creepy? No. Then shut the [__] up. You can't—you got nothing. You got nothing. That's the—that's the end of it. There's—it literally makes no sense. That doesn't give you the ick—the other—because you disagree doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Why would that—why would that be okay, but the other way it's not okay? Are you vegan? No. Okay, what—it's okay for you to consume cows? Yeah. Cows consumed humans. I gave cows no moral consideration. The [__] is that—what the [__]—cows are not humans. Hold up. Should—should cows be fed humans? Huh? Should cows be like—dead humans? No. Cows started alive before you ate them. You're comparing human—wait, wait, hang on. I want to finish this real quick. Real quick—say this again. Okay. Not—you're saying everything has to be reciprocated. So if—I'm not saying has to be reciprocated. I'm saying—old on younger woman, and that's not okay, then it's not okay for younger women to hit on older men. No, I'm asking why one's creepy and one's not. One is creepy because that man has significantly more life experience and is preying on younger, purer women so they can train or groom them to be what they want. In the—what if the—this older man who's 40 is really buff and really [__] dumb, and the 19-year-old's smarter than he is? Then who's the predator then? Is that icky? Yes, it's icky. Yes, it's icky. Okay, let's just—is that what you want to hear? Yes. It's very—hard—slap—boing. I—so okay, let me come in on this. So Andrew, I don't know if this is—if this is either shifting the goalpost or M&M Bailey, but here's where we started. We were talking about virginity; age was not at all a factor, but she retreated to a more defensible position—of—it's not a defensible position—well, but she retreated to a, a stronger position—optically stronger—let's talk about—well, okay, it's 18-year-old virgins now—not just virgins—because that's where we started. Is that M&M Bailey, or is that um—uh—shifting the goalpost? Well, no, it was—it—it was an optical M&M Bailey. So the M is 18; the M is virgin. Then you say yes, it's okay because there's not actually anything that's morally incorrect about it. She agrees but then says it's icky, and so the optics there is—most people would agree that it's icky, and so therefore it's icky. I guess that's where we end up. I want to engage you on the virgin component of this. So your original statement was—well, I think it's kind of hypocritical for a man who, you know, maybe he's got a high body count, and he wants to date women who have a low body count or who are virgins. You object to that. You think they must be relegated for the rest of—to dating women who have the exact same body count as him. Well, okay, let me ask you a question. How tall are you? I'm—I'm 5'5" or 5'6". Okay. Do you like tall men? I don't care about height. You don't care about height at all. What—you dated a guy who's shorter than you? Yes. Have you—okay, that's [__] I—I've been in one relationship. How tall was your boyfriend? 5'10", 5'11". Okay. So let's see what else. Uh, okay, let me—me ask you a question. So in order for you to want to be with someone, do you need to be exactly the same? No. Need—you—in order to be attracted to a trait, need you possess said trait? No. Okay. Checkmate. GG. Hold on before you say checkmate. GG. Well—my original point, which you twisted, was I want to understand, and I was asking for an understanding. No, you objected specifically to men with high body counts wanting virgins. Let me finish. I said I don't understand why older men with high body counts only want to date—they gave you a list of reasons, and—and I said because I personally find that creepy, and I was looking for an explanation. No, actually, you said it was immoral. I just want to let you—you brought that up. Yeah. And you—you said it was immoral. I personally find it immoral, but that's my opinion. She said—you said it was creepy and predatory. You don't have personal morality, though. You have external divine command. And I—I personally get complicated. I'm in my—I am in my early 20s, but I look at 18, 19-year-olds as children. What—bro—what—what—her own world—there's a definition—adult has a definition. Yes, it does. So you view a—n—a—a 19-year-old as a child—not a—not a child—the same as a 10-year-old—but I think they're a kid. They're still in high school usually. 19-year-olds are not in high school. Are in high school. I don't know any—what the [__] dumb ass [__] 19-year-old—they held back ones. I'm sorry, but no—the 20—the 20-year-old high school student. 19-year-olds are sophomores in college. You think this is—are—s in college. Okay. Okay. But back to this—you don't have personal morality; you follow divine command. I do. Yeah. So then why—what do you mean personally I find it immoral? I—I don't know why you're defending 40-plus-year-old men being okay with being with—I don't know why you're offending—I've told you multiple times I find it icky, right? Okay. And that's why I'm defending, cuz I don't give a [__] what you consider icky. All I care about is what is moral or immoral, or that you can make an actual argument for that. Somebody somewhere is going to give a [__] about—thus far, that has not happened. Okay. So once again, if I can jump here, in order for you to desire something in a partner, need you possess that trait? No. I was asking for an explanation. I was asking for an explanation, and you could not give—you want to go through it again? You said—I'll jump in on this—eventually—eventually—hold on—eventually you did answer it, but it took you a while. No, I did it immediately. You didn't say the pair bonding till later. No, I went through step by step by step and started with why fertility would be a thing that we would go after, and then I explained fertility has nothing to do with virginity. Yeah, but then I explained why it would be that you would stop—it would have to do with young age, though, which is—I literally—I literally walked you through step by step by step by step, including pair bonding, virginity—all—well—event—I had to start at the beginning and walk you through. So yes, it's an eventual gra—like we have to start at the bottom—R—so we can get to the top—Rong. Okay, I did not disagree with this point, so I don't know why we're debating about what I didn't disagree on. No. Well, then if there's no disagreement, then there's actually nothing wrong with a 40-year-old—we have a difference in opinions. Yeah, you get the ick, and you don't, and we don't care. Okay. I feel like a lot of people get the ick over it, though. There's like—if you scroll through TikTok and stuff—there's—of—like, you know—like on the street conversations—and they like—speak to like couples—the comment section is wild. So literally—I just—NL—um—NLA Chopper—he posted a picture, and then I post it—we kind of do this when they do this—we—WE—post like—under—under stuff—and—forsa donated $100. Do you think a 40-year-old and an 18-year-old can have an adult conversation about anything? Maddie, I'm sure you would think it's weird. I'm not so sure that men and women can have adult conversations about anything anyway. I don't know. I'm 19, and you're what? 38, 40? Oh, 40. I think we can have a pretty—actually, we do. I never said that—that was the—Dono responding to—okay, here—I'm going—I'm going to do a couple chats. We have RV. She said men should not expect to find a virgin close to their age. Instead of saying that women should give more importance to pair bonding for humanity's well-being, she prefers sexual instant gratification over the future of humanity. Mercy—buku—for the Canadian 50. Do you want to respond to that quickly? Let me reread that. Oh my God. L, just read it for you on the silver—just word vomit. It's just word vomit. Okay, she has no comment. Thank you.

You though, for the uh, super chat, Nickelodeon. Playing devil's advocate, dude. Pike drives through 100 women, finds God, once a Virg—Virginia—why not to settle for a born-again virgin, Andrew? He can, yeah, he can, he can. So, just playing Devil's Advocate, back that argument didn't [ __ ] work really well, did it? Also, I, I do want to reply to the last sentence of the last donation.

Okay, sure. Um, I was not advocating for, instance, sexual gratification. I'm against casual sex for myself personally. I just didn't understand a man's Outlook and reasoning for wanting younger women, which—and explain which Andrew has since explained. Would you date Henry Cavill? No, you wouldn't. No, okay. All right. She says it, she says one thing, maybe she means no. I, I genuinely would not. Rich, handsome, famous, all-around good dude, plays World of Warcraft. What's wrong with you? Just kidding, I'm kidding. You cannot want to date Henry Cavill. That's fine. Why are you looking at me like that? What the [ __ ] chill, bro? I, I don't know. You could have named a bunch of other attractive… Date 26-year-olds? 27? They're disqualified. Would you go for Brad Pitt? He's, he's in his 50s, right? No. Okay. I, I, I don't know. She's too good for Brad Pitt, folks. Brad Pitt, would you object to—BR—like a woman who's like 19 wanting to date Brad Pitt? No, I don't object to it, but you think it'd be weird if he only wants 19-year-olds. I think that's the point both of you are missing. I think it's fine if an older and younger person get together. I think that's fine. When an older man is only targeting 18, 19-year-olds or virgins, is that the case though? Like, is that really—there are some men who think that, yes, but I'm sure like that—I still don't understand what the argument could possibly be if they did.

Okay, for example, for me, right? No, no, no. Okay, for for me, right? So, I'm 34, yeah. I would date a girl who's 21. Okay, now I'm not hanging out at college parties. I don't go to, I don't party or go to clubs and bars to begin with, but like if I ran into a 21-year-old who was attractive and she liked me, I liked her, we got along, I see no problem there. I think you would object to it though. I—no, I agree with you, I—but I'm not—again—but I would date a woman—I would also date a woman—saying specific—oh, like—but so, so my—here's—here's—but here's my thing though, so I would date a woman who's my age. I might—I've actually dated women who are older than me. I would date a woman around my age plus or minus a couple years, but I would also, if a 21-year-old woman was interested in dating me, I would date her. But do you, do you object to that? No, I don't object to any of that. I, Brian, it's for you, it's specifically their hyperfocus. Yes, in reality, those things aren't really working out with those men that—with than IDE—it doesn't—but, but, but there's a lot of men who idolize that. And you said you're 34, right? Yeah. Would you deliberately hang out in groups, college pars or whatever, with where you know women are going to be 18 to 21 in looking for a partner? Or if you had a dating profile, would you set your preferences to be 18 to 21-year-old women? Okay, so to answer the first question, no, I'm not at college parties trolling for college chicks. And then two, I would—if I—I haven't been on dating apps for a while. If I were to set my age range, I would set it probably like 28 to 39, maybe. Okay, exactly. And I see nothing wrong with that, but I think I was trying to make the point that I find it creepy when men specifically only want 18, 19, 20-year-old women.

Yeah, you do. Okay, you just—all right, there you go. It just really kind of—it does—it does—it rubs me the wrong way. Oh, we got some tweets from our, our dear friend Malik. Did I get it right this time? Oh, no [ __ ] wait, did I get the name right though? Oh, yeah, you got it right. We got—I don't think anything is got on my Twitter, which is why I said I don't know uh, if men didn't exist, nothing would get done. Yeah, can you uh, zoom it out a bit? You're going to have to zoom it back in though, after—actually, I, I don't disagree with that. Men did not exist in the world—was—wait, got a laughy face emoji there. Oh, okay. If—but you, you disagreed if men didn't—okay, you disagreed with the me. Yeah, I'm disagreeing that. Yeah, I, I stand by that. Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I find it's laughable that people think that—no, no, no uh, scroll up. Scroll—wait, next. Yeah, next. It's not the own—you thought it was Malik. You're going to read these. Okay, okay. McK—Nick uh, right corner. You can, you can read it. A lot of people fail to recognize the fact that if men today were stronger, smarter, and more dominant, any woman would be submissive today. Several men lack the leadership skills, so women have to step up to the plate. Men need to be better leaders so women can follow. I agree with that. Here's the issue that I see is that, granted, I, I think men are lacking in a lot of ways. Men need to uh, step it up a bit uh, the reality is though, even as a man, if you, if you are inclined to lead and you are a good leader, there's a lot—okay, there's a lot of women that are not prepared to be followers because that's the the yin and yang of—if you're a woman and you want a man who's a leader, you need to be prepared to follow. And a lot of women want the man to be a leader, but in a very confusing way, don't want to follow. You're attracted to the leader, but also you don't want to—you're attracted to the leader, but you don't want—so in order to lead, you have to be willing to be led. And a lot of women are combative and argumentative and quarrelsome and boss babes and all this stuff. She's Orthodox, she agrees. Yeah, I agree with everything you just said, right? But that's the issue is like a lot of, a lot of women don't want to, don't want to follow. Yeah, so, so from, from our purview, it would be that it is—I mean, it's true, right? This is a big, a big thing which talked about inside of Orthodox fears constantly uh, whether they're cradle born, not cradle born, is that women will often say they know that they're supposed to be submissive to their husbands, but they have a hard time, right? Their husband needs to prove themselves first, their husband needs to show them they're worthy of leading them. That's kind of like the opposite of submission, right? That's not the point of submission. I agree and disagree with you. I, I agree in the fact that, yes, women should submit and not necessarily wait for the man to take control. However, I do think if a man doesn't give a woman reassurance or safety or the just the trust that they can take care of them and be a leader, I, I can understand—that's not submission. I can understand a woman not wanting to fully submit if there's apprehension. They may not want to, but that's not the point of submission is what you want, because otherwise it wouldn't be submission. But that's, that's why in, in my tweet I said that if men uh, were more better leaders and wanted to take the leading role, more, more women would submit. There's so many men that I get it that the purpose of submission—that's the point. And that was the point of my tweet. Okay, okay. So wouldn't that be hypocrisy then? No, no, you're trying to make it something it's not. Okay, next tweet, you want to read it? All men want is a woman who is pretty, loyal, supportive, and pure. All women need is a man who can emotionally, financially support them. Yet, women be picky about all the irrelevant stuff. Wait, I thought you were against men wanting pure—if that's all they only want—no, I, I am not against—I think men—you want that—I, I was just honing in on the—we, we went on that debate way too long, and I think me and Andrew uh, specifically agree on a lot of points. It's just I think both of us were misconstruing um, our arguments, and I was just holding on one specification—not—I was miscon—okay. Next tweet. Next tweet uh, Pearl says uh, that—and then you say—if a man told you to hang on—can I read Pearl's real quick? Sure. Okay, so says—no, I do not need therap—therapy, you dumb woman. I see what is in front of my eyes. Women make dumb choices. Let men make choices, not us. Just wanted to do that real quick. If a man told you to delete your social media, would you—but I thought you were submissive. How is that not submissive? Wait, would you delete your social media? Yes. Oh, okay. All right. Next tweet. But why were you arguing with the lady? She was tweeting—keep it moving. Let's keep it moving. Oh, okay. This is from Pearl again. You—I guess you and Pearl have a friendship uh, Vanna White says she's leaving Wheel of Fortune unless she makes at least half of what Pat Sajak makes. Pat Sajak makes 15 million a year, so is—that's the lady that like points to the letter if I have a correct—she doesn't speak really—just—so she says she's leaving Wheel of Fortune unless she makes at least half of what Pat Sajak makes. Scroll down, and then you respond. You want to read this? This is not delusional. Is she replaceable? Of course. Does she deserve at least half of her male co-host salary though? Yes. We'll see what they do uh, why—I don't—I actually um, don't necessarily think she deserves half—you—that's what you said though. I, I did say that, but I'm allowed to change my opinion um, but as I st—in the first part of that response, is she is easily replaceable. If you're easily replaceable, obviously you shouldn't deserve the same salary. So you were just wrong about that tweet. I, I would say I was wrong about—what was your position back then? Um, I guess my—the justification—my position back then was it was not necessarily wrong of her to want a higher salary or quit um, but she's replaceable, so they're not probably not going to do it. But wait, pull it back up, the same one, but you said it's not about—you said she deserved—deserves at least half—it's not—you didn't say she was—I said I, I don't agree with that—that's the part that she's changed her mind about. I know, but what was—I was ask—okay, whatever your—I was asking like what your argument would have been for it back then. Why does she deserve—I, I said back then um, I, I, I don't remember that—like I said that was from a year ago, but I, I was probably tweeting in the context of it's not wrong if her to ask for that much and quit if they don't give it. But you said—use the word deserve um, because it was it was in the original tweet. Okay. All right. Next. Oh uh, don't scroll up. FTP. So yeah, F the police. Yeah. Okay. All right. AG—question for the whole table here, starting with you, and then we'll figure it out uh, would you date a police officer? No. Is it because do you just have a general dislike for police or—no, I, I personally know people who are police um, okay. I, I just—okay, I just would not. Well, we'll go around the table on this, starting with you. We'll go all the way around. No, I would not date a police officer. No. Um, I guess say I wouldn't because the potential of them getting hurt on duty and then passing away. Sure. I couldn't—Alexis—um, I support the police force. I think that, you know, back the blue. I think they're awesome. I'm really grateful for what they do um, it's—answering hypothetical is when you're like in a relationship uh, if you weren't—didn't know—no, I get it um, yeah, I don't—I think I don't—so uh, what was—are you not a fan of the police or—I was replying to one of whatever's tweets. I believe was the tweet I was replying to—no, it wasn't our tweet, it was just like a video of prob—police brutality or something. So I'm sorry, what was your question? Why [ __ ] the police? Yeah, oh um, I don't have anything against individual officers um, as a whole, but the entire police system allows for so much corruption. The amount of—I'm sure everyone in this room either themselves or has a friend who's been pulled over at one point or another and was told by a cop, oh, I could do this but I'm G—let you off easy, or I could really [ __ ] up your life. I could write you for this, but I'm—I've never heard that—it, it, it exists a lot um, I personally have dealt with that um, here, let me—do you think we should get rid of police? Absolutely not. I, I support—you need police in a functioning government. I just think that—I, I don't know—even, even with, with quotas like for cops to meet a certain amount of quotas—the problem with, with Poli is that prisons are for profit, so you constantly need to—all prisons—not all prisons—but the court system and everything, it's for profit, so you constantly need to be charging people with crimes or locking people up so that it does profit. And I think—isn't that more of an Institutional issue though than like saying the police—no, I get it, but that's a really strong statement. I guess I'm just trying to clarify your position. Yeah, the police as a whole, not individual policemen. Well, for the sake of time, I don't think we have enough time to engage too much on the police thing, so let's keep it moving. Oh, well—well, hold on—just—you change your opinion a lot, girl um, at this point—just saying—I'll read this one. Read it. Go ahead. Um, at this point, we'd be better off with no cops at all. Well, hold on, you said we need police. I do. And, and that, that tweet is, is partly satire, and I—it's hard to state why I said that without knowing the context of the previous video um, M—response to a video or or whatever. How many times have you been pulled over? Maybe you're just—I get pulled over a lot. No, I, I don't speed. I've actually—every time I've been pulled over, I have gotten a ticket, and every time I have taken it to court and represent myself in one. I have a clean record. Proud of you. I get harassed by, by cops quite a bit um, really? You think they're just like out to get Appalachia area? Yeah, I live in App—ah, okay. All right. They got nothing better to do than—I should do a show in Appalachia. What do you think? Would you, you be on the show? You—oh, sure, I'll, I'll give you a tour of the local cousin [ __ ]. You got—wow. Okay. Wow. Wow. Alexis has some thoughts on that one, which—just really—do your neighbors have a couch in their front yard? Really knock me upside the head though um, I, I honestly, I honestly don't leave my house much unless I'm going to drive at least an hour away. Okay. Do you like it there? No. Okay. Yo, I, I, I, I don't like the area. Welcome to the whatever podcast, coming to you live from Appalachia. What's up? We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. Hey, I'll hit you up. You got some girlfriends in Appalachia? Okay, yeah, some—all right, all right. Okay, next tweet. Good sir. Oh, that's it. That's all the tweets. Okay, we should probably—I told you I didn't have bad tweets. You weren't—that—I thought you were going to pull up some that didn't exist. That was it uh, nothing too bad. Okay uh, wait, we, we read this one correct? I think yeah. Okay, or did we? I just want to make sure um, yeah, we did. We did. Okay, we did. All right, guys uh, any final thoughts here before we wrap up from anybody? Otherwise, I think we—oh [Music] wait, does body count matter? Go—no. Yeah. M Dog. Yeah, yeah uh, for me, no. For men, yes. Okay. Right uh, no. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes uh, okay. So uh, what's your body count, starting with Maddie? Welcome to the table, Maddie. Eight. And then you, and then we'll go around. I don't know uh, range. I don't know. Here, let me help. More than 50. I don't know. I stopped keeping track of my body count a long time ago. You stopped keeping track after how many? I don't know. I, I—if you had to guess—if you had to guess—if I had to guess—had to guess—honestly speaking—honestly speaking, it's, it's, it's a high number. It's in a three digits—triple digits—dois—no, wait, that's double digits. All right, I don't know Spanish. Five—500—would that be unreasonable? I mean, that might be a little too high. Okay, so 300. Whoa um, maybe between like 150, 200, maybe 250, maybe 300, maybe—it's—maybe—but it's a maybe. Okay. Hey, at least I'm honest. No. Oh my God, that [ __ ] computer came out of [ __ ] nowhere. Holy [ __ ]. Okay um, yeah, it's good that you're honest. Thank you. So like 300—like—ni—SP—just going to say 250. We leave it at that. Okay, we'll leave it at 250. You know, give or take uh, for me, I'm going to say maybe between uh, like—I guess over 50, but not more than 100, because I was in a relationship for seven years, so it took a while. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'm also—I don't know, but I'm try—I'm thinking—I'm doing some maths. Have, have any of—do any of you like—have kept a list? I used to keep a list. I did—used to—do you still have it? No. You still got your—you got list? I don't have it. Oh, you got—used to have a list, but then, then it just got—it got too much, and I was like—and then I've deleted it. But so, what do you think? Over over 100? Oh, no. Oh, definitely um, definitely, definitely um, I, I want to say 150, but I just—I just feel like probably it's more like 200. Could be, could be 250. Definitely not 300 though, because I went for a really dry spell. Well, okay, so follow the body—is which one has the most? Does that count [ __ ]? Do I have to double it if they've been in each at the same time? [ __ ]—but I'm like on 500—like I don't know [ __ ] cuz they bad cuz they can be swapping—go. Okay, so I'm going to—all in 500—multiply by three. Well, cuz if you count—cuz they can swap during sex—[ __ ]—busting our math. All right um, so if we're including both, we—I'm going to say 500. So 250. Yes. Okay, 250 men. Okay, what about you? 10. Okay. One. Y'all already know I'm not answering this question. I knew she wasn't. I knew it. Why not? I knew it. I'm genuinely curious if we're going on the theory the body count matters. I'm not answering it. You know, if, if I'm going to continue my logic—I'm going to continue my logic—and if I'm not going to rate myself a number, y'all—I'm not going to answer this question. True. True. True. True. That's real. Couldn't say nothing. That's real. Couldn't say nothing back uh, one question for Miss Exquisite. I just really—I just really want to press a button on this, so I'm going to ask you a question. What? So again, what are the things—the chivalrous things that you're looking for? Listen, listen, if you decide to take me out on a date or ask me out on a date, I just want you to open the door for me, you know what I'm saying? Pull my chair out um, you know, if you're, if you're insinuating the date, then yes, I would much appreciate for you to pay for the date. I mean, you are asking me on the date um, flowers, if you want, you know what I'm saying? Just, you know, nice, good small talk when we're having, having a nice date. That's pretty much it. I don't ask for much. I don't know, man. That sounds like a lot of work. It's a lot of work—just, just to be a gentleman, honestly. That's a lot of work. It's an—sounds like a lot of work. I mean, but I'm not dating for that—that's what I'm saying. But most men who act like that are—oh [ __ ]—all these rules. You think most men act that way for a long term? Some men just do it just to be gentlemen. That's true. All right. Okay. Cool. Cool. What? Any more buttons you want to press? No, I think—you know—like—go through the whole thing—like, like a light show—them all uh, okay. So um, maybe last question here. Actually, we need to wrap up. It's uh, it's late. All right, guys. Go to twitch.tv/whatever. Drop us a follow. Drop us a prime sub if you have one, and also subscribe to our Clips Channel—whatever—second. We're trying to get to one or 1 million subscribers. We're 75k away, so drop us a sub, guys uh, thank you guys. Appreciate it. Okay, guys, that was a great show. You guys were awesome. Thank you guys. It was a good show. We had some good debates, some good laughs. I got my uh uh, let's see, let me do this. Chat uh, Nickelodeon, we need a a contest to give a nickname to the Chilean Soldier. Hey, that's a Chilean military uniform. I vote Manny Quinn. He gets a bonus $100 every hour he doesn't move. Good Times. Okay, I don't know if the viewers can hear that, but uh, some people are screaming outside. Okay, thank you, Nickelodeon. Appreciate your patronage. Good to see you in the chat here. So um uh, I just want to uh, finish by saying this was a great panel. You guys were dope. Thank you guys. You guys were super awesome. Be sure to uh, eat all the food that Maddie baked. Oh, oh, question. Does anyone have experience making like those AI voices where you basically run an algorithm or an AI to compile uh, like to make a custom AI voice? Because yes, you guys know the Dragon Ball Z voice—like—next time on Dragon Ball Z. I want to do one for the whatever podcast. I'll do one for you. Oh, you do voice-over? Yeah. Can you like uh, imitate perfectly, you know, the Dragon Ball Z voice? Let's hear it. Yeah, you're talking about the um, next time on Dragon Ball Z. Yeah, yeah. I can do—on the next exciting episode of Dragon Ball Z, but except it's for the whatever podcast. Doeses she does her three baby daddy—do the—just send me the script. Okay. Yeah, hell yeah, let's do it. Okay um, so I need to raid somebody over on Twitch. We are going to raid—let me just refresh—make sure I am—I going to be able to end—and yeah, we're good um, let me just double check, guys. We're going to raid—those of you who are on Twitch, we're going to raid uh, oh, your homies with uh, with uh, what—cute—cute bot. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're not going to raid her, but I see she's live um, no, I got to raid one of my World of—I think I've raided her before, but I'm going to raid—once—maybe—actually, no, I'm actually—no, I don't think I raided—but I got—I only raid World of Warcraft guys, so we're going to raid Frost Adamus. He's playing Season of Discovery on uh, World of Warcraft, so those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you over there in just a sec. I do want to give my little uh, outro here. Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show. We will be live again Sunday, 5 PM Pacific. Got a good panel for, for uh, Sunday. Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara. Thank you again to the wonderful panel. I

Know we went late here once again. I know I always say we should try to, anyways. Uh, so thank you guys. Thank you, the wonderful panel. Those of you on Twitch, I'm going to send you there in precisely 10 seconds. I uh do want to shout out uh Andrew's Channel, The Crucible. He's a blood sports debater and all-around great guy. Be sure to go subscribe to his channel; his link is in the description. You can also buy his wife's book, uh Rachel Wilson, *Ult Feminism*. Ult feminism. So on Twitch, I'm going to raid you guys. Good night guys. 07s in the chat.

Over on Twitch, raiding Frost Adamus right now. Right now, I'm sorry, she just bit into a banana and she just okay, what? Wait, what? Like, what is happening? Yo, you, how would you like a British person say, like, "Y mate, wait, are you all right, mate? Are you [ __ ] in the head?" Yeah, that, are you are you [ __ ] in the head? Are you [ __ ]? No, don't don't do that. We didn't say it four times today. I I I I don't really understand what's happening here. So, oh okay, okay. Mom, come pick me up. Why? Are are you just doing that for the show? Is that how you actually eat bananas? Doing it for the show? Yeah. There's no way. Wait here. Wait, put it uh put eat eat that part, which the this. Yeah, yeah, eat that. That's wood. That's like a branch. Eat it. Yeah, it's good. It's good. What the [ __ ]? All right, I find it predatory and creepy that you're eating—you are grooming. That gives me the ick. And with that, we're going to wrap the show. 07s in the chat, guys. Good night guys. We will see you on—I'm just making—I didn't forget anything here. We hit everything. All right, good night guys. 07s in the chat. We'll see you next time.

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