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There are powers at V that are trying to destabilize [ __ ]. That's obvious. Yeah.
Um, and in the middle are kids who want a job and read a classified ad somewhere in Halisco, fly there or go into or arrive by a bus, then get pulled into a yard somewhere and they get a knife tossed in the middle of them and say, "Whoever [ __ ] wins this match gets to join us." And somehow that's being funded by people buying avocados at the grocery store in the US. Somehow that's being funded by uh federal programs in parts of the US that are very permissive to the to drug uses and creating these giant drug markets in places like Los Angeles and other parts of the country who are in indirectly or directly basically fostering these businesses that these organizations are have. Um, somehow um us, you know, in the US um trying to be a good person and kind of like, hey, this is just an addict. This is not his fault, you know. Um, sometimes people are saying like, hey, the borders the borders crossed us.
Yeah. Yeah. But but there's a border there now. And people are paying to get across it to a very evil organization that does horrible [ __ ]. And once they get across, a lot of them don't achieve the American dream. A lot of them actually get eaten.
That's right. Um, so there's no way of of of tracking numbers of the disappeared once they cross the border because they're undocumented. So we can't even track the numbers of people who just come over.
Yeah. So, um, I'm all about people finding a better opportunity for themselves. I'm an immigrant myself. I understand it more than most. I also understand that there's people making a business out of that.
Absolutely. I also understand that there's people people trying to virtue signal through their support of immigrants and um the open borders policies and all of these these things and will call me of sellout for speaking against immigration in that way.
Um, you've spoken on to be clear to defend you, you've spoken on both sides of that very strongly. It's interesting to see where you Because I I have to be You're going to get from everyone. It's I mean, for me, this this is this is who who I am.
Yeah. I raised over $3,000 for the Ryan Terry Foundation, one of the Border Patrol agents that was that were killed by some of those Fast and Furious guns. I did that because I get it.
Yeah. And also for to get an opportunity to say, "Yeah, yeah, I raised money for that man and his family." And also for the ability to say that there are other families in Mexico that have no names, that have no funding, that have nothing behind them, that were killed and murdered by some of these guns that were directly put into Mexico by the authorization of a man named Eric Holder. Eric [ __ ] Holder. Who's somewhere out there enjoying his life and there's a there's a kid in Mexico, a girl that doesn't have an arm because of some of those guns. It's crazy. and doesn't have a father and doesn't have a mother. I'm trying to bring light into some of these voiceless empty stories that you don't hear a lot about out here. I'm very suspicious about the media in the US and it's blackout on all of these issues until now.
Until now. Yeah.
Um, you want to talk about the essence of good that I've managed to kind of like figure out for myself in the US. If I can see a light in the US, it has been places and platforms like yours that allows somebody like me who dude I didn't I didn't I have a basically went to high school, you know, and um and then I did some [ __ ] for the government and that [ __ ] me heavily damaged and traumatized.
Um, and eventually they got rid of me and they got rid of you.
Yeah. That's what they do with everybody that that once they're done with you and the government, they get rid of you somehow.
For me, how did they do that for you?
Uh, for me, it was a clear choice between work with us or or die. Basically, they put me into a room and then said, "Hey, we're going to work against this cartel only want to join us." And I said, "No." Uh, because eventually the institution that I work with got to a level of corruption where it just was unsustainable for me to stay.
Did you discuss that? Did you call people out in back rooms and say I know what the you are?
At that moment when I got that offer I had no backing left. For a long while I worked in a in in that office with backing of powerful people including exgovernors uh including people that are in politics including ex-military members. I have a I have a military recognition by the general that was in charge of all operations in that region. I had him on my podcast. Uh, so I had that level of trust. Um, and then all of a sudden I found myself in a room with somebody telling me like you were going to work for this cartel. I resigned that same day.
Like it's like you worried about getting a bullet in the back of your head when you walk out?
Yeah. That's why I left. That's why I left and that's why I lived with a with a Navy Seal friend of mine for a bit in California while I was figuring out my immigration. Um, the the level of the And I'm just one story, man. Like there's people like me all across Mexico. People that were trained, fostered, brainwashed, built up to be this force set loose.
Yep. And then after everything was done, you're like, "Well, some of the [ __ ] you did was probably not good. Some of the people that you were you were boss were probably bad. So it means you're bad and you're corrupt. All this you did over here, yeah, we're not going to do that. We're going to do this stuff over here now because we represent a different political candidate now. So you're the villain now. So it's basically uh what do people like me do?" Like what do what did the people that I work with back then did do? They not a lot of them had the the the opportunities that I had immigration wise. So, a lot of them went to work, you know, and they and we talked about it earlier in the really heartbreaking example of your friend where you told the story about seeing him him telling you to get out of here and then, you know, 10 minutes later he's gone. And I said to you, like, what choice does someone like that have? This is someone who just disappeared one day when you were 16 cuz he was tapped on the shoulder by the wrong guy cuz he lived in the wrong place at the wrong time in the world. And it makes you think it's like, you know, you mentioned the Ukraine Russia war as well and I I see all kinds of problems there obviously with the governments, but who's dying down there?
Yeah. Is it the guys in the suits or the tracksuits in [ __ ] back offices or whatever? Is it Putin? No, it's it's a bunch of boys. It's 18, 19, 20, 21 year old kids dying by the hundreds of thousands because men in suits in back rooms decided that this is the best way for them to solve their little [ __ ] sandbox disagreements together. And I don't see any difference in the war, and I put that in air quotes, it's direct quotes, it's not air quotes, does going on in Mexico in this case where kids are just born into an environment and they're told at some age, hey, you're on team A and you're on team B. And by the way, if you got to team B and team B happens to be the government, eventually that's going to turn around too and you're going to be playing for team A.
Yeah. It's [ __ ] crazy. Um, it this this war has eaten many like myself. And I didn't get like people you got you're so lucky. Uh, if people only knew the amount of issues that I live with because of it. It's a it's pretty it's a pretty hard life. I mean a lot of the work that I do moving around and training people and doing all this is basically a way of me doing therapy like [ __ ] sustaining myself just giving myself a purpose.
Um, I sent a training cadre to the Ukrainians. Um, a group of people training cadre a group of people that I trained and have some training from me uh to do medical training for the Ukrainians.
When was this? This is probably two years ago. Three years ago. Uh, you know around that time. Um, and you know, more more so than anything, I just wanted to like listen like, hey, like what the do theying think out there? Um, I got a lot of uh stories about uh foreign fighters showing up there. Um, some Mexican foreign fighters showing up.
Mexican showing up in Ukraine. Yeah. Basically fighting for the Ukrainians because they believed in this defense of this.
Wow. So there's a bunch of South Americans are there as well. Colombians from all over the place.
Holy. And how quickly the dissolution of what they were doing there started kind of like manifesting the corruption on the front lines as far as equipment, black markets uh around firearms and that um just the mismanagement of that war. Uh, yes, the Russians were clearly the aggressors and like all that that was was happened and but also they he Putin did warn them many times not to uh not to put them in in NATO and whatever. Uh, but the main thing I got from them is just as clear just war and conflict is sold to youth.
Yes. As this. I don't know man. Saving Pride Ryan. I don't know like a war like that that war is gone. Like there's if anything uh the the the the concept of an enemy, you know, like this Nazi guy has an he's an enemy. The Nazis, you know.
Yeah, that's an enemy. Hitler screaming that's an enemy. But now like who's the enemy? You know, there's moments that happen in this job today when we're talking is five years to the day since I started doing this and I've been really privileged to talk with a lot of amazing people from a lot of different types of life. I do all different topics on here, but there are moments in many of the podcasts I do that I don't know how much people can see it at home on the cameras, but I'm here in person and you can there's just a different feeling and you're like, I'm going to remember that tape right there.
Yeah. And it kind of all it forms a pattern over time. And I've had Andy Boo Damonte on this podcast six times before.
Okay. So, when he was first coming on, we were in my parents house and I told him not to cut his hair, which was good advice if I may say so myself. But I remember the second podcast we did, we recorded it the end of June 2022. It was episode 107. There is a moment there's a couple moments in that podcast that really stand out. But as far as like seeing how the world moves and how some of these people think because you know Andy was CIA and probably still is. You know he he had this line in there maybe like a couple hours into that podcast where he's explaining the mentality of society and how it turns in on itself when it can't operate around a common goal. And he literally like is going through this and he goes, "We need an enemy." And and I'm like, "Yeah, play that play that back real fast." And this is a guy who I'm not allowed to say yet where he was undercover, but he goes on and he discusses a lot about China and and from a place of like he understands that and what that is from a GDP perspective and a threat perspective. But I hear that and I go, how much of that is not Andy, but a lot of people who, you know, have like him who have been told like, "Hey, this is what it is." And then have anecdotal experiences that may be able to back that up, start spreading a message that then gets to everyone that starts to train their mind that this is the thing we all need to coalesce around. And by the way, that's the bad guy, so let's go to war.
I think about that a lot. Yeah. and and you know um I remember watching Sakario uh and seeing the terrorists make it across the border and blowing themselves up next to the uh border patrol agents um and this this whole CIA being sent out to Mexico and basically how that kind of bast out this signal you know and that's usually what happens be like uh I don't I I don't I don't know how much the CIA is involved in Hollywood would um but there is a clear effort I guess being done to make whatever enemy is Mexico.
Um, you see it as Mexico. I mean that's that's what we hear like on the news a lot. Um, that's what we hear from the White House right now. Um, so I don't know. Um, and I don't see like the whole aspect the whole thing I've been trying to kind of explain throughout these this conversation is that both of both sides are to blame. Both sides have villainous actors. Both sides have yes politics that areing very contrived and very evil in in a lot of ways. Uh, and both sides are being told by their elected officials that the other side is the enemy.
Yes. You know what's crazy to me on what you said a little bit ago and I and I didn't respond to it, but I should because you make an amazing point. I was talking about the corruption in in the Mexican government and then you said, "What about the corruption here?" And you know what my mind did right away when you said that? My mind here went to stocks and bonds and oh, they're just paid off and you know they help out big pharma and [ __ ] And then my mind in Mexico went to bodies and blood and guts and gore. One has an image that I can see in my head that looks violent. The other one has money slloshing around that leads to those things not just there but also here. And so maybe to look internally the corruption here actually isn't all that different from there.
I think you make a good point. It's just uh it just goes the long way about it.
Yes, that's exactly right. I know it's very different to go into a room and shoot up a party with a bunch of kids with AK-47s because they represent an antagonistical cartel uh of the political campaign that you're running, you know. And another thing is basically allowing a pharmaceutical company to just sell billions of dollars worth of a very specific drug that just makes everybody junkies and that create creates this epidemic that somehow has influenced even [ __ ] drug markets in Mexico and cartels to produce more of this substance to feed a giant hunger in the US to escape reality.
Um, and also to see the the amount of people that are truly innocent.
Mhm. Kids. Kids going to a party trying to experiment. I mean, remember when you were a kid and you would find a joint on the ground, you would be like, "Yay!" Now it's like, "What's in it?"
Right. Um, medication bogus magnification. I mean, cartels have been utilizing pain uh uh uh pill presses and stuff like that to make medication like objects that are laced with fentinel and you think you're taking a pain pill and it's you're not, you know. So, and some of these places you were saying are in the US where they do that.
Yeah. Yeah. And again, the whole Americans need to just figure justing get this through their head. Yeah. The cartel issue doesn't end at the border. It never has ended at the border. Elmo Sbala learned most of his trade craft by a former Castro police officer who then moved to Florida somehow and then may or may not have been involved in the Bay of Pigs. I don't know. There's a bunch of stories around that.
Um, he learned most of his trade craft through that guy. Yeah. In Los Angeles and then went back and we're here now. Um, this has never been a Mexico issue. This has been a regional issue originated itself in the US. They utilize Mexico as a training ground for the Contras. They also utilize Mexico as a training ground for some of the revolutionaries, the Cuban guys. I mean that Chabara and Caster would likeing drink coffee at this uh cafe Takua place in Mexico City um while while they were planning the liberation of Cuba. Mexico has been a [ __ ] center [ __ ] of operations for a lot of [ __ ] in the past, you know, and the US in a lot of ways has been very directly responsible. first through its combat first through first uh through its combating communism and the spread of communism uh in Mexico while that was going on in the 60s leading to aing massacre of students and a president that was on their payroll um to now this problem that it's now seeming to prioritize by making cartels a a terrorist organization and like focalizing all their efforts against that. um and just pointing the finger and that the problem is over there and we're all about Chicago, which is a hot bed for cartel activity. What about most of the Midwest where the drug route goes from Texas all the way up into the East Coast? Uh, what about California, which is basically crazy. Um, what about all the kingpins and distribution cells in the United States? We hear every now and then operations like oh there was an operation called operation anaconda which caught up a bunch of new generation cartel members in in the US. So I know that they are happening. Uh, but like where are these major figureheads of organized crime in in the United States that distribute and that maintain control? Like where is this drug just materializing itself uh once it gets across the border?
No, it's it's turning a blind eye.
I agree. What was this operation?
Anaconda, though.
Anaconda. Yeah, it was a federal operation in the US probably five years ago.
Okay. Uh, that uh focus This isn't yesterday. It targeted targeted specifically new generation cartel members and I think it caught one of like El Mencho uh the head of the new generary cartel's daughter I think was caught up in that.
Oh, can we pull this up, Allesie?
Um, so it it it's like I get it that their operations have happened in the US. Um, but it's Yeah, we got it. Okay. Yeah, just hit the Wikipedia one. Oh, no, no, no. Operation Anaconda Cartel. A new generation cartel. My eyesight is Sorry. [Music] Interest. It keeps on bringing up this Afghanistan thing, but that's not it. But maybe maybe I'm misremembering the name of the operation. So, New Generation C New Generation Cartel arrested uh US members of operation. Okay, that's 2025. So, that's a no. This is 2024. 12 cartel members sentenced for drug trafficking 2024. Okay, so they're sentenced. So 12 drug crackers try tied to the Jaliscoco New Generation Cartel have been sentenced in between four and a half and 40 years in federal prison. Announced US attorney for Northern District of Texas Leah Simmonton. Francisco Javier Rodriguez, Areola, a top source of supply charged in the case was sentenced Tuesday to 40 years in federal prison for conspiracy to possess with intent. Apologize, I misremembering the name of that operation. getting a lot of head injuries, but uh there's basically they have done sweeps, but there it's usually just like a barrage of them and then they just and these guys get replaced like the next day.
Yeah, they're like weeds. Um, but you know, people living in Arizon in Arizona can tell me if I'm full of [ __ ] I mean, the cartels are definitely operating in Arizona.
Oh, for sure. That's what and and it's very overt. Um, you make this point, Ed, about the US and and Mexico being kind of trained to dislike each other or see the enemy in each other. The the current programming is of that. So, who do you think's doing that? And as a layer to that question, maybe the better way to ask this is as best as you can tell with all the micro investigations on a global scale that you've done, right?
Yeah. Who who who runs the world? I mean, who who's the money who's the money behind Claudia Sha Bomb and her presidency?
Um, Oh, and you know, yes, we can say cartels were involved in that.
Yeah. But there's bigger money and bigger influence behind that. You're talking like Black Rock.
Yeah, I am talking about you talking like the core four here.
Yeah. Okay. and who is not on behalf of the current administration here in the US the same people right so I think there's something to be said about that and the fact that they're both being antagonistical against each other you know we the people of the US love Soros and they George Soros George Soros yeah he's real like he like the the current president of Mexico who is to the left of the political spectrum who's all about all of these woke ideology ologies that are are now kind of being [ __ ] canned in the US.
Mhm. They're on the they're going the other way in Mexico. So, if we want to talk about power structures higher up, I mean, the cartels are power structure, but they're not, you know, they're not the Illuminati, right? Like, who's above that?
I don't know. I I just see a Black Rockck uh Soros entity around the current administration in Mexico that is like yeah fostering that and I see an antagonistical administration in the US by a dude that was probably almost murdered by somebody's interest probably I don't know maybe yeah maybe so you see I don't know I mean that's what I've managed to see I'm not a journalist by the way I am a guy that worked operations and I've worked intelligence and I've just did a lot of research and I've studied a lot and I've worked against some of these organizations at a macro level in a in a in a regional level in a way in a very successful counternarcotics operation that it's probably the only successful ones that Mexico's ever had.
Yeah. In north in and uh northwestern Mexico in in the areas that are operated in. We took Tijuana from the number one city uh most dangerous city on the planet to not even being on that list and we were allowed to do the job that we had to do for a moment and then that went away. That's where I get my experience from. And when I start looking at people at this global scale now, which is like for me it's surreal to be here on this platform with you guys talking about some of this [ __ ] like this. Whenever I talk about villain, the media, the traditional media is one of the biggest [ __ ] villains out there. And I say that as somebody from Mexico that never saw the atrocities that I went through being covered by US media. It would it would all just like
Yep. Um when I when I when I look at some of these things, it's it comes from a few places as far as how I kind of figure things out. Number one, the money.
Yep. Um, so the hand that the hand that steals hides itself, but the the hand that spends gives the other one away, right? Is something I learned from a [ __ ] very brilliant [ __ ] man. Uh, Lieutenant Colonel Zawa, if he's out there, I can shout out to that guy. Um, a lot of these a lot of the money in Mexico right now is betting on Mexico becoming the biggest industrial plant on the planet. They're seeing China going probably going to take a a walk in the park pretty soon, 10 years down the line. Who knows? That's what I hear. So, you're from like this IHAN perspective. It's not it's not it's not even that I'm from that perspective. I mean, you see all these people showing up at the border.
Mhm. They might be all part of a giant military operation to invade the United States covertly or they might be people that are like, "Fuck, China sucks. Let me figure out both." Or both.
Yeah. But I think I' I've managed to see a bit of both. Okay. Uh, there's no [ __ ] migration to China that I can see. There's a bunch of empty [ __ ] cities out there.
Mhm. There is a bunch of companies and again this is not I' I've I've followed Peter Seahan. I've never talked to him before and I' i've heard some of his opinions. Some of them are interesting. Some of them I don't know. He speaks on a lot of things. He speaks on a lot of things, but I I'm probably on the same boat as him as far as it China's going under.
In a few years, probably. I don't know how long. Ten years maybe. I don't know. Um, but if people are doubting that, like, oh yeah, you're full of [ __ ] China's about to [ __ ] take over the world, then why are all their [ __ ] industrial plants moving to Mexico? I mean, my counter to that would be they're moving a lot of, not just industrial plants, they're moving a lot of things around the world to buy influence. They're moving to Mexico because they're running out of hands. I think that's what's happening. And also, the uh, the cost of moving things from Mexico into the United States, which is their [ __ ] biggest market, would be [ __ ] right there. So, um, there's two, there's a few things. Mexico is about to become this giant industrial plant, probably going to replace China in the next 10 years, and the US probably knows about that. And also, your enemies probably know that.
Um, there are talks and plans of a new Panama Canal going across Mexico, something. Yeah. What's going on with this? I I've heard whispers, but I haven't looked at, they're trying to figure out a way to basically make a Mexican Panama Canal. Okay. And that would be huge if that happens. And that would benefit the Mexican people greatly, maybe, depending on who's in charge, or it would benefit uh foreign powers and people that don't give a [ __ ] about Mexico um and its people. So I don't know. Um, there there there are many things that are setting the stage for the for Mexico to be basically this giant economic powerhouse that could have control over its own destiny or can have others controlling its destiny. And I think in a big way the United States wants to control that destiny because it's of course it's thinking about America first. And I get it. I understand that aspect of it.
And on the other end, there's a bunch of foreign entities trying to influence Mexico and its governments, foster dissent and and and conflict, pump substances into Mexico, influence political candidates on one side or the other, um, and basically foster this lawlessness in in in parts of its institutions that are now fostering this again this phenomenon of narco-narcopolitics.
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And those countries deal directly with the cartels in many cases themselves to be able to do this business and get permission. So the cartels are basically just for sale. Yeah. Mexico is part of a giant proxy war that's probably going on. Um, and some of the people on the other side of that proxy war probably, sure, the People's Republic of China. And that's an aspect or an element of this that that doesn't get talked about a lot a lot I think, um, and and the final part I think that people should really pay attention to as far as this whole issue, um, is the, you know, if immigration is such a big issue in the United States, where are where is all the immigration reform?
Well, I I've been saying that forever because like even before Trump came to power or came up in 2015, the big issue here was you didn't have any good situations or or any good scenarios in the sense that there were people who were either totally anti-immigration and like not looking at where it could be beneficial where our country was kind of built on that or there were people who were like, "Well, since our system's [ __ ] we got to let everyone else in." The system's set up for people of means. It's set up for people who need to hire a lot of different lawyers, go through a, I mean, you've lived it yourself. I'm I'm speak I'm preaching to the choir. It's It's a, I had to prove my marriage was real and I had to, How do you do that? How do you prove it? You have to, I So, this is weird. Oh, they take you to a back room and they say, "Get it on." They separate. No, that'd be, They separate you. They separate you. They ask you questions. I had a I I had my daughter with me, right? Oh, man. I had my daughter with me and a and an album of pictures of me and my and my ex-wife all the way back to like when we were 15 or 16 because we've known each other for years. Yeah. Our families were like friends and that wasn't enough. I had to go through three or four, if you count the last one, four interviews. Obviously, probably my background was like a, was I trying to figure out, um, but I had to go through four interviews. Meanwhile, a person of like West African descent next to me who was going through the same process got his green card the first his first meeting because of a quota that they had.
A quota? Yeah. And he couldn't speak English. He couldn't speak English. And uh you speak American English. I'm like, "Hey, I like and also like I'm and also I have a kid." And then and I I kind of worked like can no like you need to come back again. We need more. That that that was wild for me. Yeah. The other thing that was wild for me is coming out of the immigration process and getting getting handed a bunch of information pamphlets and ways of getting government money. Ways of getting government money. Yeah. So like, hey, welcome to the United States. This is how you can get on all this type of welfare. And you should live here because if you live here, this is going to get you access to this, this, and this, and this. Oh my god. Mind you, I'm Mexican. In my mind, I'm like, don't get, I had to [ __ ] work. I got to go to work, right? And all of a sudden, I have this like this portfolio of like, I qualify for this, I qualify for that. I should get medical exams and I can then qualify for this money. So, that's the that's the reception that the United parts of the United States have to people coming into this country legally. Um, a shitty horrible immigration process that is very unfair with a giant [ __ ] line across the street that people cross or jump over if, but every now and then I get like hey Ed like you're [ __ ] very anti-immigrant like what what like I'm not I'm not at all as a legal immigrant it makes me feel a certain way when I see a bunch of Venezuelan dudes riding around mopeds in New York with a debit card full of [ __ ] cash living in a [ __ ] hotel. Yep. Call, I didn't get any of that. I had to beg people to be able to like [ __ ] Hey, I just came here like I'm trying to figure out can I [ __ ] stay at your place for a bit and get I I need to get a job or I had to [ __ ] beg people. Yeah. Figure [ __ ] out. I had a at that time she was two and a half almost three. An American daughter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, her mom's American. Um, her her her mom's parents are Americans. Um, and I'm and she's working, but it's California, so we I have to,
Was she from San Diego? Yeah. Okay. So, that's how we knew each other. Yeah. So, I had to I had to figure [ __ ] out. Yeah. And I can understand why a large segment of people who are of my descent get pissed off when they see the immigration process now. Yep. And they see all these people get free money, free stuff, free plane tickets flown around. What was that app like? The one app. Oh my god. Again, I understand. Yes, some of these people were at risk. But we can't generalize it, though. Mhm. Some of these people were at risk, but some of these people were [ __ ] gang members. I I I remember going on a flight. I think it was uh Dallas and there like four of them uh Venezuelan dudes with a portfolio thing they were carrying for their paperwork because they can't they don't have IDs so they had to fly with this paperwork they give them. Uh all of them were wearing hoodies covering up their heads and their and their and their arms and it's [ __ ] hot. It's Dallas and it's summer. Mhm. Like covering some pets and I'm getting some things. I'm not vilifying all immigration in the US. I understand completely. But you have to realize that as an immigrant myself, seeing some of the shady [ __ ] that happens around it, you're like, "Motherfuckers, Ukrainian refugees come and camp out on the border in Tijuana. They spend Oh, they go to Tijuana." Yeah. They spend probably, I don't know, let's say a month and now they're all across. So now all of them are in the in the US immediately. I'm not saying it's because they're white, although it might have something to do with it. Um I'm not saying it's but but then you get the the Hondurans and the Venezuelans and stuff like [ __ ] them. They make a giant camp in the north. But so I don't know, man. There's a lot of weird [ __ ] I'm not again I'm not saying maybe I don't know. Maybe it's because of the the war was going on, so they qualify for refugee status. But, you know, we have to realize now more than ever that this immigration system is [ __ ] Yes. It's so [ __ ] And people need to realize this. And again, something I said 5 years ago, four years ago on another platform, every single Mexican that makes it across that border illegally now has a legal claim for asylum because they're fleeing a country that is torn being torn apart by a terrorist terrorist organization.
Yeah, I don't think they thought about that one. I hopefully hopefully there there's somebody in charge that is thinking about a lot of these issues, but people asking for a path to citizenship right now. Everybody that made it across that border after the kickoff of the drug war, like I I was I I I started being active in 2004. I think the drug war probably kicked off in 2006, 2007. Again, hazy. Got hit in the head a [ __ ] ton of times. Um, time blindness is an issue that I have legit. You're doing pretty well today. Um, so all of these people that made it across that border illegally have a legal have a have a claim. Yeah. Like, hey, why did you leave? Like, why did you leave [ __ ] Nales? Terrorista. Terrorista. Taliban. You know, there's like a there was like a cartel group that actually called themselves the Taliban. Um, M so um there's now they have a claim and I don't know if there's going to be some sort of I don't know immigration reform should be at the top of the list. Yeah. Build a wall, do everything you want, but immigration reform is not even being [ __ ] talked about. It hasn't been forever. It's a huge problem. Um, so I don't think so again I don't I don't think the the claim that these this is being done for some sort of national security aspect or that it's being done to work against a terrorist organization like it's it's there's something off about that whole process. Um, immigration is definitely an issue. Um, illegal immigration is definitely one of the biggest drugs that's being utilized by the American population as far as their work that they do for us.
Oh, right. We're addicted to it. Yeah. And you have, look, you also have people. So if the system's broken and it's like impossible for someone of no means to even try to get through it with a lawyer or something like that, I understand why they want to try to come here. Yeah. We've also just had an open door that allows them to come here, by the way, often with the help of coyotes and the cartels themselves who have made an enormous business out of this that you already laid out earlier. The illegal coyotes because there are also government legal coyotes in the states. That's right. That's right. Move them to different parts of the country. For what reason? I'm not going to say electoral reasons. It's weird. It's weird. I'm not going to say for electoral reasons, but it was probably for electoral reasons. It was something weird for sure. But I'm saying like even forgetting that for a second cuz we we've covered that in here. You're 100% right. The fact that the cartels made business out of this and continue to make business out of this out of people and that's not being viewed as as a humanitarian crisis by people in this country who are so concerned about like having love for everyone. What about the What about the kids you talk about who are coming across the border with coyotes who then are sold into sexual slavery? Yeah. Or killed. Yeah. And and again, I I get it. The border, build a wall, build it high, you know. Um I remember speaking to the smuggler uh during the the whole caravan thing. Mhm. And I said like, "Hey, dude, like the the the the is the first Trump administration. It's like, "Hey, the Marines are across the border now. Like, is that making things difficult for you?" Ha. Navididat. Like, what? It's Christmas. What do you mean? Yeah. The all of the all of the army is here and they're very visible and they don't separate. They don't leave each other because that's not what you do. So, like, oh, right. Also, he said, "Yeah, a lot of those Marines like they're countrymen." M so like they have, you know, hit them up. But again, corruption is on both sides. Yes. We're we're like I I grew up on GI Joe too, you know, but I I but that's not the reality that we live in. No. Um immigration needs to be dealt with. um our dependency on illegal immigration that is kept illegal for a reason needs to be dealt with or else none of these solutions being put forth by the current administration are really serious about anything. That's what makes me that's what makes me kind of doubt what's going on. Um and I think the play really realistically the US is not going to is not trying to end terrorism in Mexico. Yeah, there's something else there. It's trying to get a handle or a control over the future of Mexico because it realizes the importance that it has and it holds for the future of the United States.
Do you remember like your first time as it because we haven't really talked about like you growing up today yet. C can I can I Oh, yeah. Yeah. Quick quick break. Hold on. Perfect. All right. We're back. I was just asking you though like what the if you can remember as a kid your first time like I don't know what age you were but where you realize like oh there's this thing called the cartel and maybe they run some stuff around here. Um I can actually really I really have a clear memory of this. Um my my my family was was lower middle class for a while and then it was upper for just for like a few like let's say like six years I think my my dad's business did pretty well. Got it. Um so some of my brothers I have two brothers um bigger I'm the I'm the I'm the smallest one. Um they uh they went out at night and partied. This is early 90s. Um, so this is the Ariano Phoenix era. Um, so cartels were around, but cartel members were around, but we I didn't I didn't know who they were. The first armored vehicle I ever saw was outside of a a private school in Tijuana called Elmen Mexico. It's a prep school. Elmo Sambada's son was in that school and he had an armored vehicle. That's the first armored vehicle I ever saw when I was a kid. Um, but I thought he was just an important man, you know, with an important son and he's money. So like that's why they're guarding him. Um, there was a very weird famous shootout in Tijuana, like some of the earliest ones next to a an open air market called Meawos in Tijuana. It's just uh you know it's an open air market basically like a tiangis like a swap meet. Um cartel guys show up and get in a firefight with other cartel guys. Turns out some of them are federal cops, some of them are state cops and both of them are basically bodyguards for rival cartel members. So they get into the shootout. So that's so that makes people like wait what's [ __ ] going on? That's never happened in public like this before. That was like kind of the the first time it kind of like manifested itself and I started hearing the the lmana lmana la mana it's the the mania or or the uh betic okay is like a nickname for criminal organizations in Mexico. So I would hear like like who who who was in that shoot mana. It was the the mania the the the tick, you know, the lmana. L man Peluda, the hairy hand was another nickname for cartel. So cartel as a word wasn't like the one used. It was always like a weird nickname. Lmana, Lmano Peluda. Um, you know, funny weird names. But you would start hearing about these people carrying around guns and like, oh, they're policia. No polic.
Hey guys, if you haven't already subscribed, please hit that subscribe button. It's a huge, huge help. Thank you. And a very interesting phenomenon happened in in Tijuana specifically the Narco Jr. phenomenon. So basically rich kids are people in the middle class getting into cartel work. Uh some of these Ariano Felix Cartel affiliated members uh wanted to have inroads into industry or inroads into night life. So how do you get the kids? So you start they start getting some of the kids involved in recruiting them into you know hey um I need access to middle class or upper middle class Tijuana people that cross the border a lot so I can use them as drug mules. So that's that's that's that's how it started manifesting in my life when I was a kid, seeing some of my neighbors being caught with [ __ ] a kilo or more uh trying to cross a border with you're like a rich kid. Like what are you doing [ __ ] smuggling drugs and then and you realize that they're not it's not it wasn't about the money. It was about the lifestyle. That's right. Um power, influence, lifestyle. I know these guys don't [ __ ] with me or a [ __ ] suburban is going to show up. And that would happen like when when I was in high school. Um I there was again I was a skater kid so I I didn't I didn't go into the materialistic [ __ ] myself but some of the people that I went to high school with did. Um they would go to some of the the famous nightclubs that there was one called Monte Pikacha was [ __ ] cartel [ __ ] full. I don't I don't know if it's still open but if it is like don't go there. Um Cat Schultz is going right now. Um, so the there was a there was um a friend of mine went to that bar and danced with this chick there. Turns out this chick was the ex-girlfriend of a guy that went to the that went to the same school. I thought you were going to say she was a dude. I was No, no, it's not one of those stories. Not yet. Not yet. If you want, we can go into some of those things, but not now. Uh, but uh uh this guy shows up outside of the school. This is a [ __ ] uh this is a private school in a very like nice part of Tijuana. In the middle of the day, gets out of the car with a Draco. A Draco is a very short AK-47. It's about that big. And gets out of the car with a with a Draco. And I'd never seen one in real life. And I thought it was a toy. No. And then he just racks that thing and lets three rounds uh up into the sky. Uh everybody's on the ground. Uh this kid walks out and he like [ __ ] beats the [ __ ] out of him. Um two other guys come on, kick the [ __ ] out of this guy. Take his wallet uh and his car keys and then they leave. Uh ambulance comes, picks him up, and I'm watching all this [ __ ] I'm a kid. I'm probably 16, 15. And I'm like, I'm waiting for the cops to show up. I mean, there a guy just showed up with a [ __ ] AK in front of the school, shot three rounds into the air in this [ __ ] high valley neighborhood, beat the [ __ ] out of this kid, left him like an ambulance had to come with him. The cops are going to show up. Cops never show up. And that kept happening over and over again during my life. Now you know with now I knew it's because well maybe some of the guys that were in that car that came out and [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] out of that kid were actually cops. Yeah. Um maybe they have communication so they can tell like hey don't show up to this it's us. So it started manifesting and showing itself in different ways while I was growing up and again the whole influence it had. And again the enamorment that all like kids would see this lifestyle like you can you can carry around guns you can go into nightclubs like that night Tangaloo I want to go to Tangaloo and [ __ ] get over the line and you start seeing all these it's sexy it's romantic uh here get a written about you and like seeing basically the whole Robin Hood type scenario celebrating these guys that [ __ ] made it. So you have like a It's kind of like as a kid unknown, you know, just trying to figure out the world, you kind of have these mixed emotions about them at first. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're romantic. They're cool in a way. Uh it's cool that I have friends that have influence with them. And if we were picked up by the cops constantly in Tijuana skateboarding. Oh, you were? Yeah. Why? Skateboarding is a crime in Tijuana. What? Well, there there was no skate parks and we were kids and we smoked weed in public, you know, and we destroyed [ __ ] property and [ __ ] like that. Why? That's what they arrest you for down there. Yeah, they would they would pick us up, right? Seems like there's some bigger priorities, but you know, it's just me. We would skate at a at a uh there was a mil there's a military barracks where they have a giant Mexican flag um in Tijuana and outside there's a park and they we would basically bring our own skate gear and [ __ ] skateboard out out there like uh we welded this pole and these legs on it so we could [ __ ] port slide and [ __ ] like that. And every now and then you would hear music coming
Out of the military barracks. Uh, like weird music, like [ __ ] Sweet Child of Mine and [ __ ] like that. We just [ __ ] play uh, and you say, "Oh, sweet child," and you said the volume would crack up and we'd be outside [ __ ] skateboarding, right? It was like it was this mystery for years. And every now and then the cops would show up and [ __ ] just pick us up and [ __ ] take our money, steal our boards, uh, or if we [ __ ] had cardio, [ __ ] outrun those [ __ ] right? Everybody would spread.
Years later, I find myself in that same military barracks, only this time with a hood over my head. A hood over your head? When I was working for uh, a past administration, uh, there was this big uh, corruption thing uncovered in the institution that I was a part of, and there was a baptism—narco boutismo they call it in the news—was a baptism where a bunch of cops were swept up in this raid that the mil-army special forces had there. So, while they were trying to figure out who was in on it, uh, some of the people that were in charge of the governor's security were actually in on it, and some of those people were working with me and my team. So, everybody was brought in basically for questioning. And they put a hood over your head.
Uh, they called me to the office, and then all of a sudden I found myself in a truck full of people wearing black helmets, which is a sign for special operations. And I I never saw I've never told this story before. Um, and I've recently talked about this publicly. I've never talked about my time in that situation publicly realistically. And I like I still have the uh, the scars on my wrist from the uh, handcuffs. Yeah. Because they were [ __ ] torturing me as they I had them had them on. So I I was trying to get free of them. So skin peeled.
They were torturing you? Yeah. Uh, well, they were interrogating me is is what they said, right? Um, and then I realized why Sweet Child of Mine would be playing in that [ __ ] military. Oh my god, they're drowning it out. I had this moment of [ __ ] time travel. I had this moment of time travel when I was both 14, 15, [ __ ] with my skateboard and trying to trying to hear this music, and all of a sudden I'm I'm there. Um, the I got a promotion afterwards, so there's a like a happy ending to it. We like how you responded to how we honestly Jesus Christ. Honestly, they they did some of that. Um, that's so but that's so sick. That's so sick. And you I mean that's not normal.
No, but they but it is it is there though. Uh, there I wasn't the only one there. There were a bunch of people were picked up, and God knows what happened to some of them. Um, I was picked up. That happened for a while, and then I was let go. Um, somebody from my office went and picked me up. I went home. My my ex-wife wasn't there at the time. We're already together. Um, and [ __ ] did my best to kind of wash myself off, I guess. How do you like of You got to be a mess. uh, of methylate, which is like a Mexican antimicrobial solution. You [ __ ] use it on cows. Uh, but that's what I put on my wrist, and I wrapped them. Um, I had a bunch of uh, internal cuts and wounds in my mouth from just being slapped and being punched in the face so much. Um, and a few other things. So, I just [ __ ] took a long ass shower and drank like less than half of a bottle of tequila to kind of chill out. I was a functional alcoholic back then, so yeah, easy. Um, and then I got a call from the director of my uh, the job that I was in at that time, and I got uh, and I got a uh, and I got a um, a promotion because they said that I I just passed the most uh, rigorous uh, confidence filter in Mexico. Meaning that they had determined you were not one of the people that turned. You were tortured. And they're like, "Well, I stood up." And after that I I became the uh, head of security for the governor of Baja. Okay. That but that's again that's the realities of [ __ ] down there.
Oh yeah. Extreme. That dichotomy is insane. You're going from the skate park to hearing this music wondering what the [ __ ] that is, and then you're in it. Yeah. I'm in there with a hood on. Um, and when I say a hood, people might envision like this black cloth hood that the American CIA would do. You know, this was a [ __ ] plastic bag. This is a a a very gray thick plastic bag over my head that was utilized multiple times to try and esphyxiate me as part as as far as their interrogation. Um, so when I when I when I when I like when I but that you have to realize then that then these people then turn around and say like, hey, we're cool. Um, all that [ __ ] stays with you. Yeah. What does that do to you psychologically? Cuz now you're running security for the governor, and you're not into people in the hallway who were doing these horrible things to you.
Yeah. Again, uh, it's programming. It's training. People that have been through military training and have been through these [ __ ] rigorous programmings and brainwashing will tell you it's like in some way, shape, or form, they convinced me that was justified, and I had to just [ __ ] go through it. And they rewarded me by giving me more responsibility, and I relished it. I would like to tell you that I was like bitter about it or angry. The bitterness and anger only came years later when I realized it was at the root of a lot of my [ __ ] problems. Yeah. from my alcoholism to my insomnia to my weird issues with authorities and authority figures around me uh, with my there's a bunch of [ __ ] that produc it it produces itself around that, and you know this this uh, the normalization as you say this is normal like when I would I never spoke about any of this for years uh, until recently I was on this podcast in in Mexico with Agafe, and the reason I talked about it publicly with him is because he was a part of the institution that probably did that to me. And when I was describing the torture, he was like, he's nodding. Oh my god. He's nodding because he knows, you know, he knows, right? Um, he knows.
Um, and the again this people want to are wondering what hey like why doesn't anybody do anything like why doesn't anybody raise their hand like why isn't there like a a youth movement trying to fight against cartels like there is there's a lot of people like myself that are very idealistic that want to do something and make a difference that get programmed in some of these institutions that do the job that needs to be done and all of a sudden once we're done with us. Yep. Or if we get fired from some sort of stupidity we did. If you're a cop in Mexico, at least it was like this when I was active. If you are in a cop, if you're a cop in Mexico, you become active in an institution, you immediately become disqualified to belong to another police institution and all over Mexico. What's the logic with that rule? They don't want people moving around. So, I could be a law enforcement professional in Baja when I was active. I don't maybe this has changed now, but I was a law enforcement professional in Baja. If I quit the job there or I was fired, well, if I quit the job there and I try and hire myself off into another institution, the first question is going to be, have you ever belonged to a police institution anywhere in Mexico? And if the answer is yes, you immediately become disqualified. So, what options do people like me have? You you don't. So, and this is just like systemic [ __ ] internal systemic [ __ ] that is just like the there's a reason why, and I I repeat this a lot, but it's true. When I started my police work in Mexico, we were patrolling the city with a bunch of federal guys in the back of the truck with big rifles dressed in gray. The federal police back then were army guys that would just get a different uniform. They were gray uniform instead of the brown one or the tan one. And right now the solution that the government that Claus Sham bomb has as far as patrolling and securing the border after the tariff threats was to send 20,000 troops that were already there on the border dressed in gray to patrol the cities in the back of trucks. That's not going to do [ __ ] for anything. 20,000 seems low, too. And what I mean the whole it's a snake eating it sail over and over again. Every time there's a new administration coming in they forget about everything. They [ __ ] can everybody. They send everybody away with any sort of experience and talent leaves. I mean I know some things. I've I've worked with people who are way more talented and [ __ ] skilled and know more about the world than I do. And a lot of these people were [ __ ] fired, fired or let go because they just didn't have any use for them anymore and or they wouldn't play the game. Or they wouldn't play the game. Then where do you think they're going to go when you end up with they end up in the cartels?
Do you ever talk with any of those guys now? Every sources every now and then they're now in the cartels. Every now and then I have like some offline conversations with some of them if they but again I don't look for them. I don't try and travel to them. Every now and then I'll just get this random message out of the ether uh, like, "Hey, remember me?" He's like, "Yeah, what's going on," and holy [ __ ] Um, and I and I and I'm aware of of that and I'm like I always I always go hands off, but I have my ear to the ground, and I hear, you know, I hear I could say this um, with one of them I heard regret that they went to work for the government. They should have started there.
Oh, in the cartels. Yeah. What was his logic? They take care of their families more. They have better pay. They have actual support behind them. Um, what about the [ __ ] they do though? Did you ask him about that? Yeah. What do you say? It's worth it for their families, which is something I I guess I can understand. Um, the acts of villain being justified by the ability to have kids and being able to see them into the future so that other people can't though. again. Um, Mexico was all about Yeah. Let's see the whole aspect of it later. Um, what did your parents like did you ever talk with them like growing up once you kind of found out about the cartels? You see these Robin Hood type figures like what did they have to say about it? I mean, my mom my mom was a character. It's actually her birthday today. Uh, she passed away a few years back, but I'm sorry. But it's pretty cool that it's her birthday and I'm here. That's cool. Um, my mom was a character. She was a ninja. She grew up in a very, very dangerous part of Tijuana, Shanty Town. It's gone now. It was swept away by a storm. Um, a storm. Yeah, it used to be called Carton Landia or the cardboard land basically. Um, there was a storm. Uh, it was right on the Tijuana River Estuary. That's where she lived. Um, horrible family situation. Uh, dad abandoned them when they were when she was about 12, I think. Um, she always carried a knife since she was a kid. That's who I learned that from. Um, she was a very religious Catholic. Um, she hated um, yeah, that's that's where she grew up. Whoa. That was her neighborhood. That was her neighborhood. Kartum Nanda. Uh, there was a giant storm in DJ that swept all that [ __ ] away. I now see what you mean. Um, that's where she grew up. So, she had like a I I show a lot of trade craft stuff to people in the government. I showed them how to do a lot of sneaky [ __ ] Like I have to say my mom was probably the biggest ninja I've ever met. Uh, she was a nurse. So like she we would go to like if you're a nurse in Mexico, you're basically like a surgeon general, you know, like somebody needs an injection, they'll knock on the door. If somebody gets shot and they want to go to the hospital, they'll knock on your door. My mom was like a community doctor in a lot of ways. So that's that's who I learned most of my the ways I am, I guess, from. My dad on the other hand, um, a dandy, you know, he's like a fun guy, party, you know, carefree dude. Um, none of them involved in any sort of criminal activities, like none of that [ __ ] Like none of them are like both of them are god-fearing [ __ ] fairness, la, and just [ __ ] do things that like both of them clean in that way. Um, when they started seeing a lot of this [ __ ] just creeping into our lives, I get warnings about it basically.
Um, they didn't want that for you obviously. No. Uh, so you can imagine their surprise when their kid with spiky hair and Oh, you had spiky hair. I had a spiky I'll show you a picture if you want. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta see that. You took it all. I was gonna ask you like were you emo? Didn't I guess you went the whole way? No, I exploited uh, like I used to listen to the Exploited a lot. UK Subs, Rancid. Then I was into the weird Scott [ __ ] for a while. Um, but I was like a spiky hair, you know, Operation Ivy. That was my thing. I was uh, spiky hair, you know, and uh, all of a sudden I I shave all that off and I hand them over my uh, orders and they're like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing?" M so I'm going to go be a part of this, and they were like both of them obviously viewed it as a death sentence cuz well because you're going on the right side of things and the other ones are so powerful. Yeah. So both of them viewed it as a death sentence, and this is from uh, from parents that had lost a child already.
Yeah. What happened with your brother? He passed away in a very traumatic way. I don't want to talk about it. Okay. Um, how old were you? 13. Okay. Uh, my mom went psychiatric and my dad went alcoholic when that happened. So in a lot of ways I kind of raised myself after that. And while they were kind of getting their [ __ ] together and they became present again in my life is when I dropped the whole I'm going to going to go off to do this [ __ ] Um, they were horrified. My mom specifically was horrified by it. Uh, she's like what the um, and more so that about the fact that they were going to use me like that she was she was on to it, but I refused to see it. Um, both of them gave me some pieces of advice when I graduated. Don't get into anybody's pocket. Don't let anybody own you. And nobody's against you. They're for themselves. Learn this and treat everybody like a friend, basically is what my mom told me when I graduated. And I got this gold colored shield badge. Um, and a radio, a handgun that I've never shot before, and two magazines, um, [ __ ] cheap ass second chance vest, and off I went. Thank you guys for checking out this clip. If you haven't already subscribed, please subscribe and hit the like button on this video. It is a huge, huge help. And if you'd like to check out this clip's full podcast episode, that link is in the description below or right here. And finally, you can follow me on Instagram and X by using the links in my description below.