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All right, you guys. We are in for a treat. We have Rick Merlin Lavine here with us to talk about 2026. And I know we've been doing our 2026 prep series, the prep series that we do every year to make sure that you all have the information you need to plan ahead, to just understand the energetic waves that are a part of what's coming, and also to talk about how to best prepare for it. So, we have Rick here to talk about all these amazing things. Rick, welcome. He's coming to us from the jungle.
I, I am, I'm, it's, it's a jungle out there. I'm in the uh, uh, south of India, in the south of Goa, actually, on the Arabian Sea, and it has been 88 to 92 or three every day consistently. Uh, the sun is relentless, the waves in the uh, sea are beautiful, the monkeys are jumping around in the trees, and, and I just dismissed uh, 25 students who were here for uh, 11 days doing uh, astrology, and I'll be back again next year for anyone interested. Keep your eyes open.
Yeah, if that sounds good to you, you, you have a chance to do it next year. So that's awesome, Rick. Okay, 2026, give us the scoop. What, what do, what do you have your eye on, and what do you think from a big picture perspective the year is all about?
Yeah. Well, here's the deal. Uh, before we went live, Amanda, you asked me, so have you, you know, looked at 2026? Is this your first run on it? My eyes have been on 2026 for, well, I, I think really since 2020, when the whole quarantine, you know, I, I, I've stopped calling it the COVID period or the quarantine period. Uh, planet Earth had a stroke. I mean, you know, you know what I mean? I mean, everything, it's like when a stroke, everything like shuts down.
And it's like it wasn't like the left hemisphere or the brain shutting down or anything, but it was like something happened and we went, and there, there was some sort of, um, consciousness reset on that planet. Not like the alleged consciousness resets on, you know, you know, like, um, you know, 2012, the, the winter solstice on 2012. This was actually a real physical something happened. Well, so I've been looking at 2026 ever since then because I felt since then, and we've talked about this some over the years, that 2020, 2021, 2022, 23, 24, even 25 were all parts of inflection points that were heading to something around the bend.
Yes. Well, the bend is a long bend. Uh, because, well, I'll get back to the, because in a minute. The bend is a long bend, but in 2026, we're getting the first inklings of what's around that bend. Up until now, we've only been getting the overwhelm of what isn't working, what's falling apart. We've been, we've been getting the, uh, um, the disenfranchisement, the disillusionment, the disconnection from the, from each other, from ourselves, from, from what we think should be out there. And I think in 2026, it's, we haven't arrived yet, as if we'll ever arrive. But, but I think in 2026, we begin to get inklings of what's around the bend. Now, the frustrating thing is, no one knows what's around the bend. And I don't care how good of an astrologer you are, how much, uh, history you've read. I mean, astrologers will weigh in on their visions of what's around the bend. All I know as an astrologer, this is a bend like we've never seen before. It's the biggest of, you know, bend we've ever had. Um, and, and it really is. Um, you know, Amanda, I've spent several years, many years now with you talking about the astrologers are saying that this is the biggest new moon ever. This is the most important this ever. This month, and we all fall into that as astrologers sometimes, but I'm a bit of a minimalist now. Go, well, you know, it's not as big as everyone says, but it's important. This one I think is really as big as everyone says, and we can break down some of the, the reasons why. Um, and, uh, and I do want to keep on the global picture. Uh, a lot of astrologers will weigh in on specific things, the astrology of the eclipses and, and the Mercury retrogrades, and we have a Venus retrograde, which only happens every year and a half or so. And, um, but there are some other things that, that weigh in with a few key dates. And although the dates may turn out to be important, um, like, uh, January 12th, I think that was the exact date, the 11th or 12th of 2020 was the exact Saturn Pluto alignment. Um, and something did happen that date. That was the date of the first formal announcement of what was then called the Wuhan virus. And that was the date that the genome was announced, and that turned out to be an important date. But I don't know if these are such large cycle things that we're, we're already feeling them. And a lot of 2025 has been the, the, the, the feeling like something's happened. Something's got to happen. So it, we can't go on like this. Something's around the bend. And I think that in 2026, we'll begin to get a sense of what that is.
Okay. Do you remember in 2019 when you?
I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, but you're going to remember this. So, in 2019, we had these kinds of conversations about 2020, right? 2020 was this year that astrologers had had their eye on forever, right? And,
I don't remember. I mean, there's people who claim now that there were people who said that there was going to be a pandemic, for example, but,
but there were, but there were maybe a few that, that a handful that said that, and then retroactively, retrospectively, we could, we could see that yes, some of the signatures in the astrology might indicate a pandemic, for example.
Yes. For 2026, you're saying we can't see what's around the bend. Do you feel or sense that it's something as massive as the quote unquote stroke that the Earth had in 2020?
Um, I do, um, but I don't know if it'll be a singular event like that was. I mean, there were, there were sequences of events that unfolded during 2020 and 2021. Um, but somehow, many of them, not all of them, because there were a lot of civil rights events. There were a lot of other government issues around the world. There were a lot of things going on, but I don't know that there will be a singular event like that that will be the event. I think we're literally going around a bend now. There may be two or three or five or 10 things that happen, but a, and again, there may be a singular event, but the, the, the astrology suggests more like the beginning of a shift. You know, I, I've used this image before, um, or this, um, kind of metaphor, what is it? Yeah, metaphor. I, one of my favorite books is this guy who's a linguist and quote collector, he wrote a book called, "I Never Met a Metaphor I Didn't Like." Anyhow, the, this metaphor is, um, in the olden days, prior to power ships, powered to steam engines or or other forms of of self-propulsion, if we were on a clipper ship going from New York to San Francisco, say, um, or New York to India, um, the way we would go is we would go down the coast, and because there was no Panama Canal, then we'd go all the way down to the southern tip of South America, um, called Land of Fire, Tierra Del Fuego. And most people don't realize that the Pacific Ocean is actually higher in altitude than the Atlantic Ocean. Not much, but it's, but it is higher.
And in order to go from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific Ocean, going around that, that cape, you actually have some of the most crazy, terrible seas on the entire planet because you have to go literally from one ocean to another where, where you have to go up in altitude. And, and the old Clipper ships sometimes would take days, weeks, even months. Many were lost, and many simply just turned around and went back. They couldn't make the, the, the, the, the, uh, going around the bend. Here's the thing. You couldn't take a sighting on or a bearings on where you were and where you were going until you were around the bend. I mean, for us to have such a before and after kind of experience of a year like where we're, where now we see all this energy that has led up until now, we have some sort of vantage point where things look different.
It does seem like something or things would have to happen, right? But are you, are you seeing from the astrology that it's probably not something we already see, like for example, AI?
Oh, well, that's funny you said that because one of the shifts that we're going through are shifts of the outer planets. Um, Saturn, um, Neptune, uh, Uranus, uh, um, Pluto, um, are all moving, and even Jupiter is in that equation, but in particular, um, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, and Saturn is in that picture also. They're all moving, changing signs at a similar time. Now, they've done that before, but they've never done it, um, so in such a close proximity and all sexiling and trining one another, which theoretically should be good, but we'll come back to this because trines and sexiles are not always good. But, but they're all doing this in very tight aspect to one another. And so, I, what I'm seeing here is that the first of these was the slowest moving planet, Pluto, as it moved from Capricorn, where it was doing its turmoil when Saturn lined up with it on January in January of 2020, um, which we talked about previously. But when Saturn tipped from Capricorn into Aquarius in March of 2023, on that same day was the day that Chat GPT was announced and released publicly.
That is a signal. That is an astrological clue. And so you just brought that up, and yes, I think that's part of the equation, but it's not the, the, it's not the whole deal. And it's not about any one thing in reference to that. It's how that, um, has been building now for three years and will continue to for another couple, almost a couple of decades as Pluto continues to move through Aquarius. But meanwhile, um, Aquarius's modern ruler, Uranus, has tipped into Gemini after seven years in Taurus. Now, Uranus is the planet of sudden change. Think of, think, think of Taurus as granite, you know, I mean, it's the solidness beneath our feet, or, you know, Taurus is an earth sign, and it, and it's dense, like a bull is dense matter, and there's that sense that when Uranus is in Taurus, it doesn't change very easily. So, in order for it to change, there has to be really big disruptions. The lightning has to strike in such an incredibly strong way, and that's an example of the COVID change while Uranus was in Taurus. As Uranus moves into Gemini, um, think of sparks in the sky, think of lightning, think of buzzing, think of thoughts moving at higher speeds than they've moved at for a long time. And, and, and as, um, Uranus moves into Gemini, which it just tipped into Gemini, um, this year, it's now, um, at the, as, at the beginning of 20, um, 2026, um, it'll be back in in Taurus just for a little remedial work. But once, but once Uranus, um, moves into, um, Gemini, um, as it does, um, it will begin kind of making closing in on its first of seven, I'm sorry, of five trines to Pluto. Now, the last time Uranus trined Pluto was in 1920, 21, 22, that period of time, the roaring 20s. I mean, the planet was a buzz. There was there was electricity that was being spread throughout the world. Um, there was excitement. Um, the stages of New York and Berlin had this burlesque, this kind of on the edge stuff, sexuality, uh, the flappers, all this stuff was happening. And of course, the 20s ended with, um, not necessarily a pretty picture. You know, we had the, uh, stock market, stock market crash in the United States, and a forever, what seemed like a forever long Great Depression, in the end of the 20s, early 30s. We had the rise of fascism around the planet, um, in a way that had been like more powerful than ever before. Uh, Hitler came to power, Mussolini came to power, Stalin came to power, all right around the Saturn Pluto opposition of 1931. Um, uh, we had, we had, uh, Japan invading China. I mean, it was, it was like a total meltdown after like this thought that everything was going to be like perfect forever. Well, we're coming into that same trine. Incidentally, um, I lectured a few months ago about quantum astrology around the corner from the, uh, institute of physics that was founded by Niels Bohr, who created the, um, environment in which all the thinking that created what we now call quantum physics happened, and that was created, that institute was created in 1921, on the last Uranus Pluto trine, and so it revolutionized thinking forever. But it wasn't tied to that event on that day. I don't think there were many people who knew what was going on in Copenhagen with all these physicists, including Einstein and Niels Bohr, and Schrodinger and Bohr and Max, I mean, all these brilliant physicists were coming together, reforming how we're thinking about the world. That's what's going to happen.
We're reform about the world.
Well, think about the, the cosmos, the, the beautiful order of not only what's up there, but what's in here. You know, as, as we know, we've talked about this many times. The word cosmos means order, and it means beautiful. And we, a matter of fact, we've talked about how the modern word cosmetics, we've twisted our our our reality so much that cosmetics hide the ugliness rather than, to the Greeks, they would bring out the natural beauty or order. And so whether we're talking about the astrological macrocosm or the nuclear microcosm, we astrologers know that the outside and the inside are the same. As above, so below. The inside, the within is as the without. If that's the case, what we're going through is Uranus in Gemini harmonizing with Pluto. Uranus is the shock, surprise, awe, the radical, the revolutionary, the lightning striking. The Uranus is the aha experience. It's, Ur, it's often called Uranus, the great awakener. Now, what is Uranus awakening? It's harmonizing or trining its flowing energy with Pluto, the planet that is the deepest inside and outside. It's the lord of the hell realms. And remember, hell is not a place where we go to get punished. In most indigenous, um, cultures and many of the, um, Asian philosophies, um, hell is a place of both heaven and hell. What we call, it's a place where everything on the physical realm is born and goes back to those spaces. It's not like a bifurcation if you're good or bad, heaven or hell. Um, it's more of everything that's invisible to us on the three-dimensional world. And what's, I think, very significant is that the inside and the outside are one. This is the old emerald tablet that it's not, it, it's not like the upstairs makes the downstairs happen. It's not like, as above, that makes the below. It's the within and the without are one. They're not even reflections of the same thing. They're the same, same thing.
And so we're consciousness just surfing on a, on a, on a wave that is kind of the interference patterns of, because as we know, nodes are just where waves cross and they create the illusion of something solid. We are the illusion of solidity on the very big waves and the very little waves. Now, what does this have to do with 2026? Well, Pluto is also about the invisible becoming visible. It's, it's about, uh, Persephone being rescued from the underworld and spending time, um, in the upper world. Also, how does Persephone get out? Mercury, the psychopomp, cuts the deal and is the guide between the worlds. Mercury is the, is the heavenly messenger. It's how we think. It's how we communicate. It's language. It's the interchange of inside and outside. And Gemini is in Mercury, I'm sorry, uh, Uranus is in Gemini, Mercury's domain, while it's flowing energy back and forth forth with Pluto, as Jeff Green called it, the evolutionary journey of the soul. This is not about physical reality. This is about how our entire worldview is in the process already changing. And for some people, there won't be any surprises. You know, although as the aliens land on the White House lawn, or as we all of a sudden realize that what we thought was dark energy and dark matter, 96% of what's out there, we know it's out there, but we have no way of perceiving it. We're beginning to step into those realms. I think we're going to understand a totally new picture of who we are, where we came from, including all the fabricated history that we live in about who we are as a species, why we're here, what we're doing. This is what I think is potentially online. Now, having said all that, and there's more to it, and actually, let me say just a moment more of what's more to it, because although the Uranus Pluto trine by itself would be enough, at the midpoint of that trine, um, is as Pluto is changing or is in the process, it's already technically changed, but Pluto is moving from Capricorn to Aquarius. And as Uranus around the same time is moving from Taurus into Gemini, air sign to air sign. At the same time, Saturn and Pluto, to Saturn and Neptune, sorry for the misspeaks, Saturn and Neptune together are moving from Pisces into Aries. And as astrologers have been talking about, I'm not here delivering new news, that on February 20th of 2026, Saturn and Neptune will align at 0 degrees of Aries. Well, Saturn and Neptune align every 35, 36 years. No big deal. Except we do not have awareness of them ever doing that at the 0 degrees Aries point before. I mean, we can go back two, three thousand years. We can get about four or five degrees away from it, but this is nailed at the zero degrees Aries point. Why is that important? Well, for astrology, 0 degrees Aries point is the start of everything. It's, it, it, in many, um, schools of astrology, including Uranian astrology and and symmetrical astrology, you map the 0 degrees Aries in a chart just like it was the North Node or the ascendant or, or, or Mars. It's a point because it's an actionable point.
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And, and, you know, when, when, when Saturn, the planet of what we see as reality, and Neptune, what we imagine is out past reality, when the two of those get together, there are always transformations in how Neptune melts the hard edges of what we thought was true, and how Saturn crystallizes parts of the imagination into the three-dimensional world and appears to be true. Now, of course, reality is not what we think it is. In fact, and I know I've said this here to, um, to, uh, your people, to the Astrology Hubbers, and that is that many years ago, back in the early '70s, I think Rob Hand wrote that astrologers used to believe that Saturn was reality and Neptune is illusion. But now we know that Neptune is reality and Saturn is the illusion. There was one. So we have this whole meltdown of what's real. I mean, I mean, we've seen this coming for 14 years with Neptune moving through Pisces of fake news and, and, and, and conspiracy theories being so widespread that no one has a clue of what's really real. Everyone thinks that there are multiple layers to everything. It doesn't matter, you know, whether it's something as simple as you getting up in the morning and brushing your teeth, and someone making an entire metaphysical theory about why that is the most strangest thing in the world and how it means this. I mean, it doesn't matter. Now, when Saturn and Pluto normally get together, we have this meeting of what's real and what seems to be unreal, what reality and imagination, let's call it, but it's normally process. When it happens at zero degrees of Aries, it's generative, it's progenerative, it's at that creation point of the beginning of a whole cycle. Now, if that happened by itself, as it will on February 20th, that would be a big deal. But it's happening at the midpoint of this Uranus, the first of the five Uranus Pluto trines. And a midpoint in astrology, another, in many branches of astrology, certainly in the chart interpretation that I, I teach, midpoints are real points. You can take any pair of planets, find their halfway point, and that works as a, as a vector, as a magical point of, of where something can happen. And this midpoint of, of the Uranus Pluto trine at 0 degrees of Aries, H, it basically because it's sexile Pluto on one side and sexile, uh, Uranus on the other side. This is going to set this whole pattern up into a much larger hum or buzz that's going to make this Uranus Pluto trine that happens every century or so, depending on the speed of, of Pluto. It's going to make this Uranus Pluto trine different than anyone we've ever seen because the, the planets of what's real and what's not real, how does imagination impact reality? How does the future impact the present moment? How does the present moment impact our past?
[clears throat]
These are crazy things. Is there alien, um, life forces out there? What is, or what will become of interstellar objects that are moving into our solar system? I mean, we're recording this, you know, yet before the end of, um, of 2025, and there's so much energy and buzz around what, you know, um, three Atlas is and what it isn't, and whatever. It doesn't matter right now what it is or isn't. What matters is so much energy on the planet is focusing on the [clears throat] reality or the potentiality of, of, of extraterrestrial intelligence. Now, a quick word on extraterrestrial intelligence. They don't have to be from another planet. They can, I don't know. No one knows. Even people who say they know, and there's many people who do. Many people have had very wide experiences. If you're an anti-, you know, alien UFO or whatever, you haven't read the material. You know, if you've read the material, you know that there's way too much out there that can just be made up stuff. But the question is, where does this come from? And here's the key thing. Intelligence does not require a meat body to be intelligence. We are intelligent. But there's enough evidence, and I know you've had conversations, um, you know, with people like Suzanne Giese man and other people that are in regular interaction and communication with what we might call, um, disincarnate consciousness, spirit guides, ancestor guides, um, uh, um, people we knew who are now passed over. I mean, this has become something that for many people who have been initiated, it's not even a question of belief, like astrology. For those who have been initiated, it's not a question of belief. You either know about it or you don't. It's that simple. Now, if that's the case, I would suggest that all disincarnate consciousness is extraterrestrial.
It's not of the earth. What does extraterrestrial mean? Terrestrial means a physical form on planet Earth. And so I think part of this Uranus moving into Gemini, and the Saturn, um, Neptune conjunction, and the Pluto moving, you know, into Aquarius now, are all deeper and wider confrontations with extraterrestrial intelligence. Whether it's AI, and whether you're horrifically aimed at AI, looking at the damage it is, and it is already and will be doing to our environment, to the reallocation of our resources, water and power in particular. I mean, this is such a deep dive that devoting some sessions on this, I think it's really important for people to know this is not like the car being invented, and the earth being carved up with roads, and even our we moderners just kind of don't get how much of a change to the planet Earth cars was with roads being built everywhere around the planet. I mean, the massive, um, orders of magnitude that AI is already demanding, and it's really just at its infancy, um, will reorder on another level again, the entire, um, wealth and power structure because AI is being created by haves and taking power from and water from have-nots in order to create it, and it's going to get a lot worse. Now, there is a potential saving grace in here. Then that saving grace, as comes again back to the Uranus Pluto trine. There's infinite energy out there.
What if, what happens when we tap it? I mean, it's there. We know it's there. We just haven't tapped it. Um, you know, and again, Nikola Tesla was at his heyday in the 1920s when the ur last Uranus Pluto trine was. So, we don't know who the next Nikola Tesla is out there. Um, it's not Elon Musk, you know. Um, we don't know who it is, or we don't know what will be invented. We don't know who the next Steve Jobs will be who will create an iPhone or an iPad that no one ever said, "Oh, well, maybe someone will make that." There was no concept of it until it happened. And so when we talk about this lineup of 2026, we're stepping into a world where ET, and again, I don't mean, um, you know, ET phone home ET, um, but is ET any different than AI? There are many people who are calling AI not not artificial intelligence, but alchemical intelligence. Here's a question for you. Did Uranus exist before we were able to perceive it through our telescopes?
Of course it did.
Right.
Yeah.
So, so isn't it very possible that there's this network of intelligence that is interacting on some level that we can't perceive until we develop the technology? Even if the technology is destructive right now, maybe we didn't invent artificial intelligence. Maybe we just developed technology like a telescope that enabled us to perceive this whole dimension. We don't know. And this is what 2026's curve is around. And I do believe then, remember the Uranus Pluto trine will happen five times. The first being in July of 2026, the second being toward the end of 2026, and then the fifth won't be until the spring of 2028. This is not a one afternoon event. This is like the Uranus Pluto squares that happened between 2012 and 2015, when there was so much dynamic change based upon the Uranus Pluto conjunction of the mid-1960s. All these things are tied together. And so we're going now in our, in the metaphysical development and the evolution of humanity. We're going back to the seed that was planted in the mid-1960s when people started popping out of their body and having these amazing experiences, um, whether it was psychedelics, or whether it was yoga, whether it was, um, cannabis, whether it was just music and dancing, um, you know, whether it was feeling the beat of the tribal drums, um, whether it was just electricity pulsing around the planet, a television age coming, you know, television, um, generation coming of age. This is the kind of transformation that now at the opening trine. Now, here's the question, and this is where I, I said I'll come back to this in just a moment.
[clears throat]
The question is, what will happen? Because there is a huge power structure in place that is, and I'm going to use this word, um, that's a double entendre very, very specifically, that's hellbent on maintaining the status quo, and it ain't going to give up because it's holding too much power. And its resources, at least in the three-dimensional world, are apparently nearly infinite. And again, the wealth that we see is not real wealth. I mean, the, the wealth of the, um, of the Bill Gates and the Elon Musks and the Mark Zuckerbergs and the, um, [clears throat] you know, various other, you know, people, that wealth is immense wealth to us that deal in life with a whole lot less zeros at the end of our accounts. However, there is another layer of wealth behind that that's hidden. And this is Pluto, because Pluto is the wealth that's buried. It's the unconscious. It's the, um, whether it's the Illuminati or the Rothschilds or the, who knows where this money is. Again, you can have as much money as you want above the surface, but the real wealth is in owning the diamond mines, the gold mines, the tin mines, um, the silver mines, the copper mines, the petroleum oil fields. This is where real wealth is. And this is why a plutocracy is different than an oligarchy. An oligarchy is a government by rich people. But we really live in a plutocracy because the real wealth is behind all of that. [clears throat] These people are all beholden to something that's deeper and wider. And we, as their subjects, are beholden to them. And we are living in a world that is being, that that is seeing a manufactured polarization and bifurcation because as long as I'm pissed off at you, or you think I'm preventing, if you think I'm preventing you from having a good life, if something that you do threatens me in any way, whether it does or not, I'm going to put my attention against you, and you're going to put your attention against me, and we're going to have pro-life, anti-life, red, blue, um, this religion, that religion. I, I mean, you know, make all the lists you want because the people that are running the show, as long as we're disillusioned and fighting each other, they can go on just taking everything from everyone. And that's where we live. And, and, and we see many people waking up to that. I don't know if enough people are waking up fast enough, but I do know that Buckminster Fuller, his last book that he wrote before he died was called Utopia or Oblivion. And he said, and he wrote this, I think probably in the early, maybe late '70s or early '80s. Um, I don't have an exact date in my mind, but what he wrote was that one of the most important, um, events was when the Japanese, um, bombed Pearl Harbor. Rose, President Roosevelt in the United States went on radio, and at that moment, there was a synchronization of more people at any one moment attuned to the same thing on radio, because that saying, "We this day shall go down in history as a day of infamy." I may not have the words exactly right, but there were people all over the planet listening to those words simultaneously at various moments in history. Whether it was Kennedy's assassination, whether it was the, um, whether it was the, um, coronation of of someone, or whether it was, um, a great celebration, or whether it was the bombing of the World Trade Tower. We have these moments where, where, where, where we synchronize consciousness like we never have before. And Buckminster Fuller said that will, what will happen in, in future history is that there will be successive waves of shared and synchronized utopia moments of of celebration of excitement where we all come together over something, you know, some treaty, some, some great breakthrough, whatever it is. And then there'll be moments of, of, of fear and/or cataclysm. And these waves, because of the advancing technology, will get successively larger, one way larger, the other, in these swings until one wave is large enough that it basically says, point of no return, utopia. We're on our way to something better. Oblivion. We missed our chance. Done. Where are we? We're right at that junction point. Which way is it going to go? You know, the power structure ain't going to let go very easily. I've been quoting, and I maybe I've done this even on, on a broadcast here, but I've been quoting a song by Jackson Browne, uh, who in the 1970s wrote a song, um, called, "Before the Deluge." It goes, "Before the deluge, you know, there were many people who were turning, you know, turning on to nature, you know, and, and, and all these things were going on." And, and, and then it's, and then one of the verses says, "Some of them were angry at the way the earth was abused by the men who learned how to forge her beauty into power, and they struggled to protect her from them, only to be confused by the magnitude of the fury in the final hour." That's where we're at. The, the, the, the people who are in control and holding are not going to let go, even if it's a good idea. Like, I think of George Carlin saying, you know, politicians and people in power, he, I remember him saying something like, "They don't care about you. They're in a club, and you're not in that club." You know, um, and, and yet we live under this illusion that the next person we elect, the next corporation that comes around that does good things, all of a sudden someone has our interest at stake. And those people are far, there are people like that there, but they are far and few between. And I think that part of, um, what we're experiencing is being at this great junction point. By the way, there's one other planetary piece of this, and that is that Jupiter, although it changes signs once a year, you know, Jupiter, um, um, has been, Jupiter has been been in Cancer. It's now retrograding in Cancer at the end of 2025, but it moves into Leo, uh, at the end of June, June 30th, 2026. It will reach four degrees of Leo on, uh, July, um, 18th or 19th. Um, it, it will, it will reach, um, and actually, I have this, uh, yeah, um, yeah, it's basically on July 19th, um, Jupiter will reach four degrees of Leo. It does that once every 12 years. But on that same day, Neptune will be at four degrees of Aries. Remember, Neptune now toying right now, just going back into Aries, um, in January. Um, and then Saturn moving into Aries in early February, and the two of them aligning at 0 degrees of Aries, um, you know, you know, on February 20th. Well, by July 19th, Neptune is at 4 degrees of Aries. Exactly. Being trined by, by Jupiter. And Jupiter and Neptune are in some ways, you know, both expansive. I, I've said many times that in my way of seeing things, Neptune is just Jupiter, uh, escaped from Saturn. Meaning Jupiter is about big. It's about expansion. It's philosophy. It's big ideas. But Jupiter always has to answer to Saturn because it's outside Jupiter holding it in. It's like blowing up a balloon. You get to a point where you can't blow it up anymore. That's Saturn. If you do, it pops. That's Uranus. It, you know, goes out past Saturn. Saturn's gone. But with Neptune, you can blow that balloon up forever. So we have Jupiter making a trine on July 19th with Neptune at the same day. At the same time, we have Uranus at 4 degrees. Remember, Neptune's at four Aries, Jupiter's at four Leo, fire trine. We have Uranus at four Gemini, air, and on that same day, we have Pluto at four Aquarius, air. So we have, we have basically four planets that are interlaced with trines and sexiles. Pluto at four Aquarius, sexile to Neptune at four Aries, sexile Neptune, sexile to Uranus at four Gemini, which in turn is sexile to Jupiter at four Leo, which means that Jupiter is trine Neptune, and Uranus is making the first of its five trines to Pluto on that same day. And Jupiter on that same day is opposite, uh, Pluto. This ain't never seen it before. No one alive or, you know, as far again, we astrologers have this magical toy that's called the computer that can animate astrology for hundreds, even thousands of years into the future or the past. Um, and, you know, it wasn't until Johannes Kepler figured out, astrologer Johannes Kepler figured out the laws of planetary motions, you know, at the beginning of the 1600s, he was the first person to be able to make a calculation of where was Saturn 100 years ago. We now can slide our, our software backwards and forwards by centuries, and no one has ever seen a situation where Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are all making, uh, trines or sexiles or oppositions from one to another. And Saturn, which is left out of that picture, because Saturn is moving a bit faster than Neptune. So by July, Saturn will already be halfway through Aries. Saturn will be at 14 degrees of Aries. On that same day, Mars is at 14 degrees of Gemini, meaning that that's a sextile. So now we have trines or sextiles between Mars, Saturn, um, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Uh, will something happen on that day? Well, if we're doing everything right, nothing will happen. It'll just be a flow of going from the Atlantic to the Pacific. But we know that's not the world we live in. And I don't know it'll be that day, but my sense is that we first have to get through the Saturn Neptune conjunction in February. And it, we'll, we're already feeling it. Remember, Saturn and Neptune came came within a quarter of a degree of being exact over this summer, this summer, this fall, 2020, um, 2025. And then Saturn turned retrograde. They were just, they were almost together. They were just almost together in Aries, but then Saturn retrograded back into Pisces faster than Neptune retrograding back into Pisces. And then Saturn turns direct, Neptune turns direct, and then Neptune moves into Aries. Saturn moving faster moves into Aries. And that's where we're at right now. We're already feeling this whole meltdown of what we thought was real. I don't care if what I don't care what your politics are, but it doesn't matter what your politics are because everyone is experiencing, um, uh, uh, shades of what I thought was real wasn't quite the way I thought it was. We're all experiencing that. That if we can find that as a common thread, we may actually get out of this all as one, because you can take anyone that's opposite you on any issue, and if you choose to, you can find more in common than you have at difference. Uh, you [clears throat] both want to be happy. You know, you, you, you both have to go to the bathroom a couple times a day. I mean, there are things that we as humans have in common, and yet we've been trained to find something that's different about someone else and make everything about that, and therefore to bifurcate, and then to create that polarity, that false polarity. This is part of the, um, the, the message, um, of Neptune having moved through Pisces is that the illusion that you are you and I am me. Well, that's an ego thing, and that's important for my survival and your survival. If I think my survival is threatened by you, I'm going to do whatever I can to make boundaries against you or eliminate you or eliminate your power. But if I begin to realize that we're all in this soup together, we're either going to all get out of it together, or we're all going to cook into the soup and not be what either of us want to be. That's what we're facing in 2026. Um, and, and I've just picked out one event to focus on and really, um, a couple of events, because the Saturn Neptune conjunction in February is going to give us some clues around where things are developing. And remember, Uranus and Pluto also in October, November, December of the, well, October, November really of 2025, also came within a quarter of a degree of being exact. We're getting inklings, glimpses, just moments of, holy smokes, this could be possible. And that this could be possible is simultaneously built on perfection, realization, idealism, and fear. And we have to make choices about what, what, there's that old Native American story about we all have two wolves in us. And the kid coming to the wise grandfather and saying, these two wolves are battling for dominance in, you know, in my mind, which one will win? And the grandfather says, the one you attend, the one you feed, will win. And so we all have to find ways in which we can feed, not Pollyanna making the difficult, deny the difficult, but we have to feed the, the wolf, um, in this image, um, that's the kind one, that's the one that's working towards idealism and cooperation rather than hate and getting rid of, um, the old. I mean, many people have said, Einstein said it, uh, Bucky Fuller wrote a book about it, that that we don't, we don't make progress by denying or taking apart the old. We make progress by [music] imagining and creating the new.
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And that's part of what we're doing here on AstrologyHub. And, and, and as much as AstrologyHub is fantastic, and you know, I mean, I support what you do, what we do, I feel very much a part of AstrologyHub. It's amazing the network that it's created that raises people's awareness and consciousness. But it's one of hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe tens of thousands of points. I hate to use this George Bush phrase, but points of light that are actually emanating awareness and consciousness because the only thing we can change. I mean, we can do all the protesting and the hard work, and all of this stuff is important, but the only thing that changes things is our awareness. When we change our awareness, that's when we do the hard work. That's when we call in Saturn to crystallize, um, or realize the mists of fantasy, illusion, and idealism. And here's another thing about that Saturn Neptune, uh, conjunction, because many traditional astrologers look back and go, Saturn Neptune conjunctions are horrific. They, they crash the stock market. Um, they, they bring in waves of depression and, and, and, and, and they're never, they never turn out well in the past, or at least many astrologers will make that case. I think both cases can be made. But here's the thing. The dreams of illusion, when they precipitate out of the clouds and into the three-dimensional world and become Saturnized. I mean, think of the clouds, and then rain coming to earth. Now, think of our dreams. You know, Disney, a dream is a wish your heart makes. Think of those illusions and those dreams, and then think of doing the hard work and crystallizing those dreams and making them real. Like AstrologyHub was once a dream for you. Being an astrologer was once a, a misty dream of illusion to me when I was doing the same boring job that everyone else has had to do. Mine was maybe different, but it was still that world. When the dreams of illusion, the mists of illusion precipitate into the three-dimensional world, this is Saturn and Neptune. Reality often isn't as pretty as it was in dreams. The colors aren't as bright. Uh, we don't have to pay our rent in the dreams. You know, there's still the three-dimensional Saturnian world that we need to live in. And so for that reason, historically, Saturn Neptune has been considered to be, you know, discouraging, you know, because things sometimes don't turn out the way we want or the way we imagine or dream. Now, again, this Saturn Neptune is different, not only because it's at 0 degrees of Aries, at that starting point, generating something completely new, like a new life, but it's also harmonizing with sexiles. And remember, sexiles in astrology, the energy doesn't flow as easily as it does in a trine. In a sexile, there you have to do something about it, because a sexile is elements that get together, but different elements. Meaning that that Uranus, air, Gemini, Pluto, air, Aquarius, same element, the energy just flows. But when you talk about Neptune, fire, Aries, and making a sexile with Pluto, air, fire and air get along like earth and water get along. So sexiles are based upon cooperation. They're based upon an opportunity that you then have to do something about. It's like a door opening. Think Jupiter. And if you don't walk through it, you don't ever know what's on the other side. And so we have this incredible opportunity that I think will be, is already presenting itself. Many people are, if I say mobilized, it sounds political. I mean, way beyond political. Um, I mean, in every aspect of our lives, in every aspect of organizational, um, methodology. You know, I think of my friend Bruce Lipton, who says that, you know, he calls, um, every human being an imagininal.
cell. Just like in when when a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, um when it melts down and it's just that black ooze before it begins to reconstruct, they're sparking amongst those cells in in the um gunk inside the cocoon um inside the chrysalis. And the imaginal cells by virtue of their metaphysical connection begin to create form. And he says that humans are imagininal cells.
Just like in our body, we're made up of trillions of cells that all function as a community. When one doesn't play with the rest of the community for whatever reason, we get ill. And we are in a state with in humanity where we've reached such a level of complex complexity that we're ill because the cells aren't working well. The imaginal cells aren't dreaming the same dream with the other cells. The the organism, Gaia, Earth, humanity has just gotten so big and so complicated that we're not all playing together.
And Bruce says that biological evolution reaches a point at many points through our evolution from single-sellled um plants and animals. We reach a point of such complexity where everything has to reorganize and a new level of of organism evolves. And we are at that stage and it's not going to happen overnight. You know, it may take generations yet. Uh but we are certainly at a point where the change is happening faster than it's ever happened. You know, going back um centuries, millennia, humans existed in similar social structures for tens of thousands of years with no change. And then there were in there were technological breakthroughs where ships got better. And so we began going out and exploring where we discovered um the use and how to harness steam power, electricity, the industrial revolution.
The amount of change since the invention of the steam engine and electricity in the 18th century around the time when the United States of America was born. um the change in that 250 250 plus years has been more than the change in the previous two maybe I was going to say 2,000 maybe 20,000 years and and the amount of change from 1900 to 1950 was greater than ever before but the change between 1950 and 2000 was greater than all of the and again the amount of change is smaller and smaller and smaller in mathematics this is called a parab parabolic curve and when that curve goes straight up that's called its asmtote and that's it it becomes hyper accelerating uh Terrence McKenna called this time wave zero many people referred to this at the end of the Mayan calendar there's this sense that everything that ever the Bible calls this um resurrection or it calls it um uh uh not apocalypse when everything is uncovered and everyone who's ever lived than anyone who's ever gone to live is living now. Well, that's what's happening.
The the the invisible universe is actually part of our perceptions. Uh you know, and this and and the downfall of the illusion that what we can see, taste, hear, feel, and touch, I think I Yeah. know um the the five senses, the illusion that that's reality is not true by virtue of the fact that you and I, Amanda, right now, we are here and now. Where's here? Hawaii and India. Where's now? Well, you're late afternoon. I just got up. It's 8:00 in the morning here. Here and now have used to be within our personal range. You know, I mean, we our our whole perception has changed and it is going to change again. It's in the process. We're already in that movement.
There will be surprises, you know, and and you know, other important things in in 2026 um you know, include not only the fact that Jupiter moves into Leo and that crazy magical period of of um of mid July around July 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th when we have the um the uh first um of of the um uh uh conjun we have the first of the trines of the um of the uh Uranus and Pluto. But but here's the other thing is that um we also have during this time again Uranus um moves into um Uranus moves into um Gemini. Um Uranus moves into Gemini um on um on April 25th. We felt the buzz. Everyone I know reported feeling something different when Uranus moved into Gemini this fall uh or last summer. and and we'll get that again, but this time when Uranus moves into Gemini, it's not just dipping its toe in the pond. It stays there for seven years. Um we also have Chiron changing signs this year. Chiron moves into Taurus um on June 19th. Um that's another biggie. We can um, you know, and Chiron touches into Taurus and then it moves um, back into Aries for a a bit. Um, we have a couple of really potent lunations. we have an Aquarius full moon um right around the July 19th uh and by the way on July 19th when we have Pluto at 4 Aquarius, Neptune at 4 Aries, Uranus at 4 Gemini and Jupiter at 4 Leo for a few hours on July 19th. We have the moon moving through Libra. It hits for Libra and we have five planets that are on five of six points on a Solomon seal, star of David, whatever you want to call it, Jewish star, the that six-pointed star with the two grand trines interlaced. We have planets at four, I'm sorry, at five out of six of those points. It's the um the great almost grand sexile. A grand sexile would be planets at six points. But these aren't just any planets. They're the heavyweight planets. So anyone who has planets at 1 2 3 four five six degrees of fire fire signs that's you know Aries Leo and um and and Sagittarius or air signs Gemini Libra and Aquarius is going to get kind of touched deeply by this the this time and also anyone with a planet at around 3 four 5 degrees of Sagittarius that planet's going to be the missing point in this grand sex tile.
And if you don't do what you can, starting today, starting tomorrow, um, on in early February through the Saturn Neptune conjunction, if you don't do what you can to realize your dreams, you'll miss the singular opportunity of your lifetime. Now, does that mean we as a culture, as a species, will reach our dream? Does it mean that our dream will be based upon dreams of utopia or fears fears of oblivion? Does it mean that everyone will reach their dream? No. But it depends on what we do or don't do hour by hour, day by day, week by week, month by month, um through this period of time and even moving through the summer of 2026. It's still part of a larger transition that won't be done until 2028, 29, even into 2030. But we'll know where we're going, I think, um, by the end of by the end of 2026.
Um, we also have um, on September 26th, we have an Aries full moon that's at 3° of Aries. And again on that day uh Jupiter's moved out of the picture but the sun is at three Libra. Neptune is conjunct the full moon at 3 Aries and Pluto is at 3 Aquarius and Uranus retrograding back towards that is at about 5 degrees of Gemini. Again these are just re reprinting of this imprint that's happening again and again and again throughout the year. And then we have the second of the five Uranus Pluto trines on November 28th. Um, you know, the thing is that this really I think sets the background tone of the year, but we also have the lunar nodes changing signs. Remember, the lunar nodes go backwards. And so, the lunar nodes have been in Pisces Virgo. Um, and um, at the end of July, on July 26th, the lunar nodes back up into Aquarius and, um, and, um, and, uh, Leo and, um, that means the eclipses will be around those. And so th this is also going to impact that whole fire air energy um that we're getting with all the outer planets or most of them in fire and air signs and and and then we also have um we do not have a Mars retrograde this year. Mars goes retrograde every other year but Venus which turns retrograde about every year and a half or so. um uh five times every eight years. Those are golden mean or Fibonacci numbers making that five-pointed Venus star in the sky. Um Venus turns retrograde um in Libra. Um I don't have the degree at the it's it's m mid mid mid late libra um um on u let me just think um on at beginning of October October 2nd or 3rd um Venus turns retrograde and um and it basically um will re-emphasize and bring up all of that um venucian energy um that I think can be very very powerful. I think we'll see a whole lot of Venus issues around money. um you know whether the um whole you know what what people are referring to as the Jeffrey Epstein thing which quite frankly just you know gets on me because the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing is the teeny tiny teeny tiny tip of a very very very large deep and complicated um iceberg that um the power structure um is just completely unwilling to you know and and may be paralyzed, unable to deal with. And yet, as Venus turns retrograde this fall, maybe we'll have um uh re revelations around things that we just, you know, couldn't even imagine regardless of what happens with the local issues that at least in the United States and certainly in England affecting the the royal family there. Um I mean, again, these are hot spots that that pop into consciousness, but they're not the main event. they're just kind of where the main events pokes into our mind. And so, um, yeah, that I mean that's that's some of my taste of 2026. I think it's going to be an extraordinary year. I don't think it necessarily means that it's all going to be pretty because of the trines and sexiles. I think we have a lot of work to do because remember trines in particular uh the reason why the ancient astrologers liked trines is that they don't take energy to maintain the energy just flows. Squares have resistance. But resistance or Saturn is what creates things that we make, changes that we make in our lives often happen when we have squares happening by transit, not trines, because squares bring something out into the open that's not working and then we have to deal with it. And so the danger of 2026 is that pe people become complacent enough or discouraged or disillusioned and discouraged enough that they don't engage and let this amazing year just wash over us as kind of like a oh we got we we we got money from the government. Oh, they did this and that worked great and then somehow we don't deal with the more substantial issues because this is our time to do all of that.
>> [panting] >> Oh my gosh. >> Just ask me a question, >> Rick. That was extraordinary. I mean, you're always good. And you say you're not a morning person, but Oh my god, that was incredible. >> Well, for the p for the past for the past 11 days, I've been getting up at 7 o'clock and teaching in the morning. All >> you're more of a morning person than you thought, Rick. I don't I just got to get to bed before sunrise. >> Exactly. I have a list of questions. >> I'll try to answer them. I'll try to answer them succinctly. And obviously, Amanda, we have all of 2026 to unfold this.
>> Exactly. I mean, this is what I'm thinking, Rick, is this is the, as you say, opening Bali and there needs to be many more conversations because there's just so much here. Um, I think what I'll do instead of asking my questions except for the one question, and you might have said this, and it should be simple. the Uranus Pluto trine. >> Yeah. >> Date. >> Um the the first actual Uranus Pluto trine. I've been using that that July 19th because everything else has happened. But I think it's July 17th. >> Oh, but it's it is the first one is around that time. Okay. >> And that is that is the power of that July 19th. It's not only the first Uranus Pluto trine, but it's also the time and date of the um uh exact Neptune Uranus sexile and the Neptune Pluto sexile um all happening uh right around the same few days when um Jupiter is trining Neptune and Jupiter is opposing Pluto and Jupiter is sexiling Uranus. They're all I mean they're give or take several days. I don't have the exact date isolated in front of me. Um, it would be really really easy to um to find and I might even have it here. Um, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus. Um,
>> and and Rick, every time [clears throat] that that TR happens, >> is it reactivating the Saturn Neptune 0 degrees Aries point? Well, well, widely because that point is at 0 degrees and then the shrines and sexiles move on to four degrees and then on the retrograde three and then four, five and so it does move on but remember just like a new moon its greatest action isn't at the moment of the new moon. Many people make mistakes and do all their rituals exactly at the new moon. No, that's a void point. the what what happens in the hours and days after the new moon is how does the energy grow? Doing a ritual at the new moon only becomes useful if you repeat that ritual and turn it into a practice into a habit over the days afterwards. So from that standpoint, the action of that opening, we can call it a new moon, but it's actually a new Saturn with Neptune that as that begins to unfold, yes, those issues will be there, but the exact point of that will be passed just like a day or two after the new moon when we really should be doing our new moon work. Um, the new moon is in is in the past.
>> Okay. All right. So some of the takeaways that I have from that incredible download >> uh is that this is a time of the transformation of hard edges >> of what we thought was possible and what we thought wasn't possible. There's this softening of those hard edges. There is a a deepen deeper and wider confrontations with extraterrestrials. meaning and when you say extraterrestrial >> any form of any form of disincarnate consciousness meaning it's not on earth >> exactly and I love how I Suzanne Geeseman calls them multi-dimensional communication >> and again remember that modern science knows that because of the math that we can do about how the particles and the and the universe is expanding and the rate at which it's expanding in different places we know that 96% % of what's out there is either expansive dark energy or contractive dark matter. Now, just over this week, there have been indications that scientists have found a new particle that is has more mass than a proton that is in a completely different spectrum than we I'm I haven't read enough about this to say anything real. um other than I think part of what will be happening just like when Galileo had a telescope and began to realize what was up there. I think we're going to be developing tools whether they be AI related or whether they be other technologies that we are going to begin stepping into the realms that we don't have a clue or what we thought we knew. Again, imagine you were living in the 1200s and had a world view. You know, you were brought up in the church and or whatever tradition anywhere on the planet and now compare that with what we know now. That difference I think is as large as the difference that we will be going through in the years ahead. May not be >> faster. It's going to be faster. >> Well, yeah, because remember when when Capernacus did the math and demonstrated that all the planets were not going around the uh the earth, the sun and all the and the moon and everything was not going around the earth. everything was going around the sun. It took some 200 years before most people began to even think about that.
>> I mean, so, okay, I'm going to ask you at the end like what do we do with all this? Of course, I always have to ask you that question, Rick, but hold on. >> Well, actually, my next note is that because of the sexile energy, this is something we have to do something about whatever the content is. It's not going to be the kind of thing that just kind of flows without our participation. There's there's an actual >> yes and no. Remember remember there are trines also at the same time and so there will be energy flowing. You know it it goes back to that old hopy prophecy that we've been talking about a time ahead. Well that time is here. The river is flowing faster than ever. Do not try to hold on to the edge. If you do, you will be torn in half. Push out into the center and flow with the tidal with with the river's currents. Keep your head above water. Look around you. See who's there. This is your new family. And know where your water source is coming from. Know where your food's coming from. And be joyous. This is a a hopey tradition that people can find it online if they do hopey prophecy. It's a beautifully worded thing. I just totally trashed it. But yes, there will be flow and yes, we can make the most of it if we engage it and do something about it. We won't have any choice. We will have to be engaging it. But remember, people can engage out of fear, out of hate, out of shutting down, out of denial, or out of ignorance.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. I feel like that's one of the biggest takeaways of what you've been saying, that we do have a choice in how like things are changing dramatically. >> Yeah. things will change in ways we could have never imagined and we're choosing how to respond and engage with that level of change. >> By the way, the first exact per the the astrological term is perfected. The per first of five perfections of the Uranus Pluto trine um is in is on July 17. And again though, it it takes until July 18 until Jupiter clicks from 3° to 4°. And by then the actual exactness because these planets are moving so slow. I mean, Uranus and Pluto um stay at 4°. Oh my gosh. Um I'm just uh doing this real time here as we're looking at this. Um they they stay at four degrees um from early July. This is the the partile meaning same degree. Um they they stay um at that same degree. um um from early July to um early August >> and into that same period of time, Neptune is almost not moving at all. It stays at 4 degrees because it's retrograde and Jupiter, normally considered to be a slow planet, sweeps through it, you know.
>> Wow. Okay. You also said, "Do what you can to realize your dreams or miss the opportunity." Yes, that might be as we tend to do might be slightly overstated, but it's an it's an opening of a door that we would be >> I want you to say dumb. >> Uh but I don't want to use that word stupid. >> Remiss. Yeah. Um it it's an opportunity that if we were paying attention, we wouldn't want to miss.
>> Okay. And you said this is our time. >> Well, it's a time and it's a time of great speed it up and it's a I mean when you say it's our time. >> Well, that's what you said. >> Well, okay. When I say this is our time. >> Yes. >> Uh you know the Buddhist in me would say that at any moment because there is no time other than this moment. >> Right. >> Yeah. But yeah, this is this is a time like we've never seen. And when I say this, I mean July of 2026. I mean all of 2026. I mean 2020 through 2030. I also mean 1960s through the 2035 period of time. Again, we look at this through the human perspective of today, um, this week, this month, this year, this decade. This the transition that we're in right now over a period of several decades is unlike anything that humanity has ever seen before.
>> Yeah. I was just I was recording with Deborah Silverman and I had the thought of that that my children like the world they're going to live in is just unfathomable to to where we're at right now. >> Yeah. Deborah does hyperbole even better than I do. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yes. Okay, Rick, thank you. this has been so good and you're one of the one of the few astrologers who really emphasizes the midpoint and so when you brought that midpoint conversation in to for me that's that's another layer of the of the extraordinary energies that we have ahead.
>> Okay, I want to I want to say something to anyone out there who does astrology. If you don't understand or or at least look at occasionally, but use midpoints, um it would be the same as doing a chart with without Mars or without Uranus or whatever. It's like um I mean they are as important as if there was a planet there. And it is basically the great breakthrough of the Germanic school called the Hamburgg school at the turn of the 19th century that um that introduced at midpoints as we kind of know them or use them now that became cosmoiology, uranian astrology, um symmetrical astrology um as used and taught by people like um Gary Christian um Michael Bryan, other people who are I mean many people using these techniques but There are some really extraordinary astrologers who are champions of this. And yeah, midpoints I I I wrote an essay in 19 in 1992 for an astrology magazine and the title of the essay was midpoints are real points. That was the title of the essay.
>> Rick, we should do a class on midpoints. >> Let's do it. >> Yes, let's do it. because I really think a lot of people are are not uh clear on how to interpret them and and the importance and all those good things. So, okay, this has been so good. Thank you for I know you don't like to do these podcasts so early in the morning for you. >> I told you Amanda, you tell me a time and a date and I will be there. >> Thank you for doing that. Thank you for doing that for our community. You are the best. I love you so much. Thank you, Rick. Thanks all of you for any of you who who were with us throughout that whole whirlwind of incredible information. I'm just so glad that you're here on this ride with us here at AstrologyHub that I get to peek up in that river, that flowing river that we're in and see all of you and see all of you in the chat. This is our chosen family and it's incredible. So, thank you for being a part of this community. Thank you for making astrology a part of your life. Can't wait to catch you on the next episode. And Rick, you take care.
>> Thank you so much for this opportunity to connect with not only all your people, but with you. [laughter and gasps] >> The best. Okay. Love you. >> And the best of season, the best of this season to everyone. What, whoever you are, wherever you are on the planet, you know, spread cheer, spread spread spread illumination. >> Perfect. All right. Take care everybody. See you soon. >> [music]