Sniper Adz: Warehouse Worker to $350,000 in Prop Firm Payouts | WOR Podcast - EP.135

I came across trading, I think it was during Covid time. I was working as like a little shop floor assistant; my wage at that time was around £60 a day. And maybe it was beginner's luck, but I hit like around a £60 trade on my first day. So that's what made me open my eyes, like, "Whoa, I just made like my daily wage!"

Shortly after that, I worked as a warehouse worker, doing like 12-hour shifts relentlessly. During that time, I was just constantly looking at the charts and looking to, you know, see how I can actually, you know, make more and more money and make this a full-time reality. Within around two months, early 2022 I think this was, I generated around $20,000 in payouts. I think the best month I had was around $70,000 a month.

Nowadays, traders—they like to—or students that come into the game, I think it's maybe because they're coming from like a 9-to-5 corporate job. So they come into this game right now and think, okay, there's like an algorithm they have to crack. And then you see like the likes of ICT come into play, and when people come across that, you know, you got him talking about 100% certainty algorithm and all these other things, they're thinking that's the key, that's the Holy Grail. Right now, that for me is just a whole lot of nonsense.

What would you say, cuz not only have you been trading yourself and people around you as well, but also students-wise? What would you say the biggest issue you've seen people have when it comes to trading? Props, people overcomplicate. And people are watching, thinking, "What's he talking about? Overcomplicate. How can I simplify something?" Look at the end of the day.

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Talking of which, today, uh, this is a trader I've been trying to get a podcast with for a very, very long time, and he's been avoiding me, dodging me, flying out, flying in. Finally grabbed him here in the UK somehow, um, and it's been an absolute pleasure. He is Mr. 300K+ in payouts and a phenomenal trader in journey nonetheless that you're going to hear about right now, Mr. Sniper Ads.

Thank you very much, man. What do you think to your name when people say it, Sniper Ads? You ever have people come up to you like, "Sniper?" No, they just call me Ads. And uh, that came from my gaming background. I used to be a sniper on Call of Duty, really good. So I thought, like, you know, let me just—one of the best, really. Yeah, yeah. So I just transferred that, all that gaming effort, put it straight into trading and thought, you know what, sniper on the market, sniper on the games, put together, Sniper Ads.

No, I love that. I remember I was a big gamer back in the day. I was never good at the—well, I say never, I was decent online, but I was savage at zombies. Zombies, that was my thing. Uh, the problem with that though, takes like two, three hours for—I remember I'll be like in, in like a savage game, my mom be like, "Come get dinner." Yeah, I can't, should like pause it, I can't pause it, please. Um, but yeah, man, those were the days. I wish we could go back.

If there's a good question, just—staff is a bit random, but like, if cuz back—I'm guessing when you played it wasn't as like monetizable, does that make sense? Like you wouldn't be able to—you wouldn't probably know that you could be a streamer and and do all that. If let's say it was happening now and you were like, you know, gaming or you could go back knowing it could be, would you just stick to gaming 100%? I even have plans right now to to go back to my streaming days, really. Uh, I used to, you know, make a streaming channel and stream to my cousins, what you know? I don't like playing my own; I like to play with people and friends, so um, yeah, no, I'm definitely going to get back into it now that I've got some sort of income and I've got my work straight, my leisurely time. I even play, I don't know, Fortnite an hour, Call of Duty, these type of games, just to, you know, ease off and chill. So yeah, no, I'm going to have one point and bring them together and continue it. That's like my little hobby.

I like that. And now you have the money to make a savage studio, for sure. That's what I'm planning. We'll have to—we have to—I would say we have to play sometime. I don't get any time to play, unfortunately, but I I would if I could. But um, one thing I'll say in term—we're going to go into your journey, but before we do that, in terms of the gaming thing, I like to see like analogies from from things that you have experience of, right? In your gaming days, I'm sure were there moments where you would obviously get frustrated, you know, you're trying to pass a level, let's say, or you sometimes you're just getting absolutely destroyed online, you're getting, getting so angry. Um, know was there anything you took from that gaming era that translated to trading?

For sure, for sure. Like the whole—I've literally saying this to um a few people just through the day, and it was the effort that we put back into the day to be so good at a certain game. We would spend day and night, you know, just practicing, practicing, um, just to get a certain level or level up our character to a certain level. And I realized like, you know, if we just put that sort of energy into something productive, we'd level up our characters in real life uh in some sort of way. And that's what's kind of happened only recently now, like over the last three, four years. Ever since I've not stopped gaming fully, in terms of like, okay, I've just cut it off and and gaming is bad. No, gaming was just a part of my life; it was a hobby. But it showed that when I was gaming, I was trying to be, know, number one, like number one on the leaderboards and these prop firms and whatever. So I've just basically translated that skill, that same sort of effort into something productive, like trading, like prop firms, like business, like content, uh, and now just putting that same effort into there, become the best at that, and then um, you know, make it work like that way. Definitely.

I I love that you actually said that because my mom said the same thing to me, okay, when it came to—I don't if it was TR, I think it was trading—she basically said like, you know, treat it like the games you used to play, basically, you know what I mean? Like, you know, when you were on a level and you were struggling, you want to give up going until you beat that one, and then there was always another one that was then even harder, right? Um, and that's kind of the analogy that helped me to kind of stick out with trading, to be fair, because it was—I'm guessing when I did that it would have been because I would have been asking her like, ah, you know, I've just blown an account or blown my temp account, you I mean? Like, should I keep doing this? And she would have said like, hey, you treat her like this, have this sort of mindset. And I think it's so important because if you don't try and relate to other things you've done or eded at or well at, it's what else are you going to reference as a trader, which is so different. Exactly. Yeah, there's so many parallels between that sort sort of things, like the gaming side, even just in the work life, whatever it is, there's always that next checkpoint, there's always another mountain to climb, um, whether it's with prop firms, whether it's with your personal accounts, your own personal, you know, performance, and always looking to level that up. So yeah, I've been saying this to so people like, guys, there's so many parallels between trading and life; it's crazy. Um, and the more you can relate those type of things, the more you level up, really. Definitely.

In terms of trading, like when did you first come across trading? I came across trading, I think it was during Covid time. Uh, I was working as like a little shop floor assistant. Um, my wage at that time was around £60 a day. Uh, and on my day off, I remember coming across, you know, the typical signals, remember the YouTube influencers, um, affiliate schemes or whatever, just joined one of them. And maybe it was beginner's luck, but I hit like around a £60 pound trade on my first day. So that's what made me open my eyes, like, "Whoo, I just made like my daily wage on my day off," right? And from that point onwards, went down the rabbit hole, started to, you know, go down and more and more. I was working as a shop floor assistant at like 19 years old at this point. Uh, shortly after that, worked as a warehouse worker, um, doing like 12-hour shifts relentlessly. And during that time in there, I was just constantly looking at the charts, looking at the charts, you know, break time, lunchtimes, and looking to, you know, see how I can actually, you know, make more and more money and make this a full-time reality. Don't get me wrong, obviously I got—I blew many accounts, you know, put £250 cash in there, um, and just blew it all, you know, a lot of many, many times. But that was all part of the game, as all part of the experience. Um, but the main thing was I had the work ethic in me to just keep it going.

So eventually, after around—in the age of 2021, I think again during Covid time, uh, working in that warehouse as a cleaner, um, I just found my edge, um, you know, bumped into a few mentors, and yeah, just started to practice more after work, you know, 7:00 p.m., I'd finish till around 12:00, 1:00 midnight, um, I'm there back testing, for testing, planning my next trades, paper trading, you can think of, because that was the head start I was getting. My logic was to, you know, after the 9-to-5 that you have to, you know, work from 5 to 9, after that in the PM, and keep doing that, keep doing that. Now you're getting ahead and head of the competition, while everyone else is watching Netflix, you know, gaming maybe, and just chilling out, relaxing after their shift, I'm getting that head start, and I'm, you know, leveling, leveling up that way. So that's the kind of logic I had behind it, and um, that's the approach I had, and yeah, alhamdulillah, it played off, of course. Uh, straight after that, I think I went for FTMO accounts, learned about FTMO, um, prop firms, and to down the prop firm route from that point onwards, really.

What was it like, uh, blowing those accounts though? Because obviously when you're working these jobs, you're not making much, as you said, like £60 a day, etc. So, you know, £250 was essentially—and that's without thinking about expenses or anything, let just say money you're making—it's like a whole week working, you when you're blowing that all account, what was going through your mind?

Like, honestly, like I said, um, me working, I wasn't one of those people that was spending a lot of money on useless things, clothes, dinners, and you know, I think food, basic food, basic, basic necessities, I would, you know, spend it on, but apart from that, I was literally just saving, saving, saving and investing into education, education. Because at the end of the day, like I can, yes, go through trial and error, um, not invest in any education and figure things out myself, that will take me years. So obviously the basic logic is find someone else that's done it, see if their results are authentic, see they're legit, see if they have some sort of education that they can uh provide, what are their success stories like, what their students like, okay, let me invest. And yeah, I've been scammed multiple times; I've lost, you know, a lot of money to people that were fake. But eventually, I came across some, you know, real mentors, real people out there, and eventually it paid off because I learned the content, I applied it, and that's what a lot of people nowadays don't do. They just think it's going to be spoon-fed to you; it's going to be a blueprint that you have to just read and apply it. No, you have to put the time in, put the effort and gain the experience from the mistakes that you make, uh, from the accounts that you blow, and then from that you'll have your own sort of style, little edge onto it, and then from there you've developed your own little playbook, your own little system, and now you just keep on rinse and repeating that and getting as many reps in as you can, um, in that field. Because I feel like a lot of people, like I said, just want that spoon-fed uh system and think they can just make 100K or 10K at least in their first month, you know, just by trading. No, it's not like that; there's a lot more to it. Yeah, it does look like you're pressing buy and sell, but there's just a lot more that goes into behind the scenes which people don't know about.

Let's say if there wasn't anyone providing education, do you think you would be in the position you are today? I think my work ethic would take me to a level where I would be somewhere around this level because I am always looking for the education, and regardless, let's just say hypothetically there's no education whatsoever. Yeah, I would just be trial and error, trial and error. Cuz knowing that it's possible is is doable, so I'm going to go full steam ahead and go into it, really. Think it would have just taken longer. Yeah, that's all that would have been; it's a matter of speed, you know, time is money for me, and I think that uh, a lot—that's another concept—a lot of people need to apply into their lives when it comes to hitting their goals or, you know, becoming rich or whatever. Time is money, and if you're wasting that time, you're wasting a lot of money, and you know, just time doesn't stop for nobody; the sun will rise tomorrow, you know, you know, set the that same day. So you you need to get a move on, you know, people need to get rich today, you need to hit your goals today, so you know you can live the life of your dreams. You owe it to your family, you owe it to your loved ones, to the people that believe in you, you owe it to them. So that's on my mind constantly 24/7, uh, and it's that hunger that will keep you going. Because a lot of people get to this level or they get funded or whatever and think they've just made it, uh, and that's where they take their foot off the gas, and you know, things just fall apart from there, really.

So when you say that, like hit it today, what you—you don't mean like literally make the money or hit the—what you're saying is you have to have the urgency. Yeah, you have to have it on your mind, exactly, you know, so that you don't forget or get complacent. I think a lot of people, they don't have the drive, of course, but a lot of people, they have the goals, right? You have the goals. I say it's really weird that I say that cuz I always—I find myself saying that a lot, like a lot of people risk 1% or a lot of people have a trading plan, but the reality is, when you really think about it, is that majority of people don't have a trading plan, majority of people don't have goals in life, y majority of people don't have structure or self-belief or—and the reason I say that, I'm not trying to be offensive because the people watching this, for example, probably aren't those people, right? And the reason—and it's so weird cuz I grew up with this very naive mentality where I thought everyone wanted to be good, everyone wanted good for each other, everyone wanted to be successful, everyone works hard, and and only when I went into like the workplace and uh, you know, met other people, different cultures, etc., that's when I clocked on, like, I actually wait, no, you know, I'm a—and not to be ego—it's like I'm an uncommon breed. And then I kept trying to find un- other uncommon people, right? And to a point where I was forcing it; I was trying to like make people uncommon, be like, oh, you guys that we're chilling and we together, right? And why don't we all work hard? I still had that mentality even when I was doing that stuff, but I try and convince others, y it just wouldn't work because you can't force people to be, so they they have to be ready for it, and it doesn't mean—and I I'll finish with this—is like it doesn't mean people can't change, right? Eventually, but they have to change when they're ready, right? Y Um, so that's what you meant though, is like having that urgency day to day, like every day you need to have that urgency of that goal, wherever it may be.

I love that. And in terms of education though, how much would you say—I don't know if you ever worked it out—but how much would you say you've spent on education when it comes to trading? Between, I'd say $5,000 to $10,000, I'd say, um, give or take, yeah, somewhere between that $5,000 to $10,000 mark, definitely. But again, it's an investment. I I I I 99% of people won't do this; they'll see, oh, that cost that course costs, you know, $1,000 or $500, $200, and they just won't put that that money towards it. But then you'll put that same money into an account, and then you'll blow it, and then you'll cry and be like, yeah, trading is not working out. You haven't even attempted to try and get good at this; you haven't even attempted to go on the route to improve yourself or improve your education, improve your knowledge. So yeah, I mean, that's just an investment; I look at it as—and like I said, I was—I was on like, at the time, working 12 hours a day as a cleaner, um, I think it was around £90 to £100 a day, which sounds good, but again, for the work I was doing, it was, you know, very, very difficult. So with that in mind, uh, but then also having the discipline, um, and the control to not, you know, spend it on those days I was off and just enjoy it so much, I was really disciplined and keeping every penny, penny-pinching to an extent, and just really putting it straight into the into the prop firm, straight into the challenges, into education, uh, and yeah, basically that played off. And I think that's another thing that people don't see—you I see a few comments here in other videos, people saying to me that, oh, he's come from rich parents and things like that.

Yeah, I was about to say—I I was thinking should I say this to him. Yeah, I was going to laugh because I was like, wait, you work this job, but everyone says that you came from rich parents and you had all these fancy cars and all this. No, no, that's—that's from—that's just a a result of my hard work now, and people just don't even care to do their homework and look backwards, you know, in the timeline. Um, I'm literally like everybody else probably watching this and the average person that was been working at 9-to-5. I mean, from the age of what, 14, 15, uh, I was doing paper rounds for my local news agents, uh, I worked in a call center at 16, um, till about 18, shop floor assistant, warehouse worker. I was doing 9-to-5 jobs on the side of that; I was looking at the Amazon, FB, the Shopify, drop shipping, all these other things, cuz I always had that hunger to to to, you know, make a living from another, another income. But eventually, trading is what hit my plate, and I just took that with both hands, opportunity.

I love that, the misinformation of social media. I swear, does it make you laugh? To—I just—I I just looked at my brother and be like, look at this comment, and I just, yeah, just laugh at it. You wish. Yeah, you wish you had that grind. That would be great. That's what—oh, man, I find it funny, you know, like I used to see this stuff, you know, when I was coming up as a trader or generally on social media, you'd look under people's comments, and there be someone saying like, oh, this guy's lying, he's he came from this, or he actually did that. And I used—before I used to be like, oh, maybe must be this guy, must be his school friend, right? That's what he's saying; he knows him personally; he must be him, right? Then obviously being in the space and and growing the way I have and all the comments I get, then I'm like, you people have no idea what they're talking about; it's so funny. Um, it makes me laugh most of the time, honestly. It makes me laugh. I'm like, how do they think of this? This is great. If they put that energy into like being a comic book writer or something, yeah, they'll be famous. Yeah, exactly. Then maybe they'll get those comments and then laugh at it. Exactly. Yeah, that's the funny thing; I think people don't get until they're in that position. And I think that's the same when it comes to trading, right? In the sense of, especially profitable traders, when they say stuff like it's not easy, but when they say it's like keep it simple or um, you know, risk this much or trade this much, and and people are like, how can you make money trading twice a month, let's say, right? Or or um, how can you make money if you're risking half a percent, for example, right? But it's like, well, they say it because they've done it, right? And yes, to you it's ludicrous because you haven't done it yet, but once you do it, it might not be the exact same, but there'll be something that you say and believe, and someone else is going to be like, that's can't happen.

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Very best Alpha capital and Alpha Futures. Now let's get back to the episode. Um, it was honestly the, when I would blow the account, like, like I said, I came from seeing a lot of on my screen. I would, I had no discipline, uh, to a point where I would just wake up on my phone, sideways on the bed, um, trading. Uh, I traded with no stop-loss at the start. I remember that was a strategy I heard that people were telling me, "Oh, the banks can see your stop losses, so don't trade your stop-loss," things like this. So I came from blowing accounts, you know, losing a lot of money, and that pain is something that's not replaceable; it's not something you can teach. So my, the thing that helped me the most was whatever hunger I had inside me then to become successful and to keep going. That was the hardest sort of obstacle when I'd blow the account. Okay, I've got no money now, now what I do? Look around. Okay, you need to make it happen. Um, you need to like really roll that six, as I say, and you know, make it happen and hit that home run again.

So I think that was the diff most difficult obstacle, just seeing that account blown, seeing, you know, you lose so much, you know, weeks of hard work. Maybe it could be, you could have been following some sort of plan, but it takes one trade to lose it all, and that one bit, one that one part of the, um, you know, being ill-disciplined can cost you weeks and months of work. So that, in a sense, is the diff most difficult time that I had, um, you know, coming fresh out the warehouse, um, thinking, okay, you know, I just passed a demo account on FTMO, I can do this. I remember then dedicating like, uh, I don't know, seven, eight hours of the day to trying to trade on my FTMO $10,000 account, and then I blew it literally within two days. I'm thinking, now I didn't think this would happen; I didn't plan for that, but it was the adversity; it was the belief in myself that I had to overcome that and just continue. I think that's what separates the the boys from the men, really. A lot of people, they just blow the account. Okay, let's go back to the job and think, yeah, leave trading alone, and I'll just stick to this because this works better.

What change did you think you made though, so that you were blowing it and you had the belief to keep going, but what, what change as you make so that you weren't blowing it anymore? Oh, in terms of the actual uh, performance-wise, um, honestly, it took me many losses. A lot of times I blow, okay, I'm never going to do this again; I'm never going to risk 3% on a trade again; I'm never going to revenge trade. Actually, I'd revenge trade. Yeah, I'd blow that account multiple times. It took me multip, it, it's repetitions, the same way you get good at something by repeating a process over and over. It sometimes takes, for me, I'm one of those people, I'm very stubborn, but it takes me sometimes a lot of, you know, lessons to learn something and then understand to never do it again. So that was what it was for me. I think it was a repetition of those bad habits coming into practice, multiple blowing accounts that made me picture, okay, at one point I just stopped. I thought, yeah, this is not, is it that saying? There's a saying which goes along the lines of, um, "when the pain of changing is great is is less than yeah the pain of staying the same, then you'll change." Yep, that was the same with me. I L, I have notes in Journal, cuz I used to a journal like, like a diary basically, and I, uh, I'd blown an account, I'd write, "like you stupid [ __ ] like you, you blown this account, you idiot, change this, you need to do this, this, and this," and then the day after I'd write the same exactly, "you done it again, you L," and I'd write those, I'd literally write with my hand, "like look at the page yesterday, you look left exactly."

Um, it's so cool to hear; it's so cool to hear, but like, obviously you made a huge transition from there though, because obviously you went from, that was it like when you had that realization and that sort of switch in the mindset from there, what was the scaling like? Was it quite instant or was it a more of a scaling? So my journey when it come to funding was, um, I had, first of all, traded demo accounts. A lot of people hate on demo accounts; I don't know why. Um, this is something that was my like playground; this is my practice area to get used to the platform, first of all, um, get used to managing risk and seeing how I could, you know, trade with, even though I was brand new to it, and I had no emotions. There's something there with the demo account when you're seeing the trade in profit or in draw down that will have you some emotionally attached to it because that's potentially real, right? Uh, did demo account for a little bit, moved on to a 10K FTMO, passed that very quickly, um, lost that 10K FTMO, but because I'd saved so many expenses, so much uh, capital for around six months of expenses from my job, um, I was comfortable, you know, I didn't, it didn't, it didn't matter to me that I ble that 10K FTMO. Um, and shortly after that, I spent for $100,000 my Forex funds account, um, got funded with them within around two months, early 2022 I think this was, um, I generated around, I think it was $20,000 in payouts, so on top of the expens I've already saved, I think that in its own, those two months that I made those payouts was roughly around a year's worth of, you know, salary for me uh, of the warehouse. So I just saved myself, you know, a lot of time there again, time is money, so that's how I viewed it. Uh, and then from there, I was just trying to scale as much as possible. I went from 100K, 100K my Forex funds to, you know, I think all together got 600K funded. I lost a couple of that, uh, a bit of that funding halfway through it, but that was in the summer of 2022, 2023; it's a bit of a blur because, you know, it's been been so locked in. When you're so locked in, you kind of lose track of time; you just start, and you forget about the timeline; you just keep working. But overall, um, yeah, when I realized I could pass a $10,000 FTMO, it's just a percentage game. Yes, the numbers are going to be psychologically a little bit more challenging, but I just went to the 100Ks, and I never looked back from a, you know, 100K really from that point onwards. Uh, the only challenges I took from there were 200K, um, but the payouts I was getting is kind of, it wasn't insane to the point where I'm at right now; it was more sort of like, you know, gaining around 2%, 1 or 2%, you know, securing that for payout, doing that a couple times, maybe below the fund account, so it wasn't like massive profitability; it was just a little profitability, but still profitable. Um, but then I bumped to you guys at the uh, SFT event in Nottingham over here, um, and being around like, you know, like-minded individuals and people that have been in the space like yourself, um, and seeing the numbers that people were doing around me, I was like, okay, something's got to change; something's got to give, and that's the risk, uh, the same sort of risk I took by, you know, going into this game and, you know, maybe saving on, what were you risking before? Very small, 0.2, 0.25, 0.5%. I was thinking of something as in like, I know it might be work different for a lot of other people, but my strategy was high win rate, um, high a lower risk reward. Um, I went down the rabbit hole of the SMC ICT, which we'll get into later, uh, which actually made me very unprofitable for a long time, um, but then I kind of came back to my original roots, and I think a lot of people can relate to this; they'll start off with something that's profitable; they'll go down something else that's, you know, um, seen on social media as super profitable and amazing, you know, super higher reward, um, only for them to come back, back down to their Roots, uh, and then continue back where they left off. So yeah, for me, just being around, you know, other people and uh, people that had already been big in the space, I understood that, okay, I have to up my risk of somewhat. I spoke with a few people as well online who who've been there, done that, and that was basically the the giving point just to actually risk more because at the end of the day, I feel like in business and in life in general, the risk part of things is just something you can't escape; you can't really just dodge that. I mean, you can try and go for that lower risk reward and higher win, uh, sorry, higher risk for reward and smaller risk, but then you're going to have to make sure you don't, you know, miss those sell limits, buy limits; you're going to have to be present, you know, present for those trades when they when they are presented, um, and you have to execute on every single one of them, just in case you miss that one. Let's say you have 10 trades right now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so if you just missed that, uh, if you've lost for five trades and uh, the sixth one should make it all back, if you miss that sixth one, now you're potentially on losing streak for another four more trades. So that, for me, just wasn't something I was happy with. I don't like seeing red on my screen; I like seeing blue, and getting that confidence under your belt I think is one big thing a lot of Traders uh, miss out, and I think a lot of people did jump from beginner stage straight to that high risk reward and um, super profitability. My friend, just get some wins on demo, get that confidence, see blue, and build on that later down the line. And um, refinement-wise, um, a lot of people, yeah, they'll try and go down that high risk reward route again, um, making the stop loss smaller, take profit bigger, when sometimes refinement can just come in the sense of looking at your journal and understanding which trade you're more selective over. So instead of trading five days of the week, try trading two days of the week, and those two days could be the days you're most profitable on based on six months worth of data, um, you know, maybe taking trades with higher risk but taking them less frequently, things like this, right? That's another side of refinement; I think that's not touched upon uh, in the space. A lot of people just try to think refinement, smaller stop loss, bigger take profit, and that's what can lead to, you know, people burning out and really rage quitting. Really? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. I love that, and let's go into your sort of like journey in terms of strategies, like, you know, I know we talked about education-wise, like who did, were there certain styles that you learned along the way that were maybe?

Yeah, so initially, um, my strategy was very simple when I first ever started. I bumped into, luckily, a mentor online on Telegram. Uh, I was in multiple group chats at the time, just saw somebody showing off their screenshots, showing off some pivotal points that they were taking trades off, so that, for me, made some sort of sense, right? Um, and decided to go down that route, invested something like $500 to that mentorship, and that was just basically structure and trending environments and Fibonacci; they're like my bread and butter, support and resistance as well. So Fibonacci structure and um, support and resistance, they were my uh, bread and butter. So when I understood what an uptrend is, what a downtrend is, and how to catch part of an uptrend, how to catch part of a downtrend, and not to trade in a consolidation, um, that was all I really needed, but to build on that, that's when I went down the route of um, bumping into Lambert Aul, my mentor, uh, and that's what opened my eyes and into more the supply demand, support and resistance side of things, um, and more sort of just, yeah, just making trading into a business; that was like the biggest plus point for me, uh, taking on that sort of um, education, and yeah, that was basically the strategy I was going down, supply and demand trading on a intraday sort of perspective rather than scalper, and um, yeah, that was basically the the change that I looked at. Nice, nice. And then when was the SMC period there? What made you go there? So yeah, I started off initially as the market structure sort of specialist; I was um, and then a few people told me, uh, I think it was online group chats, and there's another thing that that that helped me so much with my profitability, leaving every single group chat, leaving every other social media thing, Lally, just focus on it's just you and the markets; that's the beautiful thing about this game; you don't need no extra noise; you don't need to know what trade he took, uh, because you know, you'd be on the group chat as a beginner, and then you're seeing, you know, Mr. Gold sniper 3,000 to making, I don't know, 40K in one trade, and you don't know if if that's legit or not. So um, as a beginner, you think that's legit, and you think you need to get to that level, so you start, you know, risking high and try to compete. I left every group chat, and um, I think I think it might have been when I joined, I think I didn't leave every single one; I had like one or two left. I thought, okay, these are these are legit ones, then seeing people, "Oh, no, your R:R reward is too too low; you're not going to be profitable if you keep this up; you need to go for a higher risk reward," and that, for me, made sense to me, you know, obviously as a beginner, um, but that's what messed me up really honestly, where I was forcing it, you know, when you're not, something I think that's my my biggest takeaway, a lot of to my students, I say this to them; I say, "find what your find out what your trading personality is; are you someone that can consistently handle taking five or six, seven, 10 losses just for that 11th trade to be the winner and make it all back plus a little bit more? If so, fantastic, great. I know some very good SM Traders, IC Traders, whatever you want to call them, um, and they keep that up; that's something they can do; their risk appetite uh, allows them to do that, okay, but the majority of people, they don't like that route in my opinion, me for sure that was that was the um, perspective I came from." Something that they don't like is that they they don't realize that they can't handle that basically. Yeah, but they they like it in their head; in their head, they like it; looks good; their personality doesn't match what you explain. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So statistically, you have better odds of climbing Mount Everest than making consistent money from trading. Now imagine you're given a book on how to climb Mount Everest; it's written by someone who's done it, or you can train in person with someone who's climbed it themselves. If your life depended on it, which would you choose? That's the difference between information and implementation. This is why most trading courses fall short; they provide knowledge but lack real-world application. The Smart Trading Blueprint, founded by Casper SMC, is different. Not only do you learn the strategy Casper used to scale his trading to six figures a month, but you also get to sit with him live as he calls out trades in real time. This isn't just Barry; Casper walks the talk live every day. He wasn't always successful; Casper blew accounts like many of you, but after simplifying his approach, he's not only become a successful Trader, he's retired his parents, helped hundreds of others do the same. Casper is so confident in this system, he guarantees you'll become a funded Trader no matter your experience level. Spots are limited, so click the link to apply now.

Seeing that, I thought, you know what, let me stick to, let me be true to myself initially, um, and understand that, okay, you know, my style is high uh, win rate, maybe bigger stop losses, smaller take profits, not negative R:R reward, just smaller than a 1 to 5 or a 1 to 4, um, and once I've, you know, secured that higher win rate and I've got a system in place like that, later down the line you can actually find, you will find that theis rewards tends to, you know, increase in your favor. So that was it for me, um, the SMC route, it was just online noise, presence, social media, um, and again, you'll see all these these online sort of gurus, you know, going into back test mode, replay mode, doing these models and catching a 1 to 25, and it's just like, yeah, my my friend, that's hypothetical; that's uh, you know, in hindsight, um, in live market conditions, it's a whole different game. What do you think to back testing? Back testing is something that you shouldn't get so attached to. I think a lot of people need to understand that, like my my perspective is, why do you think so many unsuccessful Traders are so obsessed with market analysis? It's because they love the certainty that it gives them, market analysis, when that really doesn't exist in the markets; there's no certainty; you should never speak in certainties; it's all probabilities, and it's all a game of uh, like I said, probabilities and chance, um, so whenever you start to become arrogant or complacent and start to think because it's doing XYZ, it's going to 100% do this, no, it's not; you don't, the outcome of a trade is unknown and unknowable; that's what Mark Douglas says, and I've ever since I've lived by, ever since I've listened to that, I've lived by that, and you can have one confluence; you can have 10 confluences; the the the trade idea with 10 confluences can lose, right? And people don't understand this; you can have multiple confluences, and the trade idea with one confluence can win, but like I can close my eyes right now, and I can have a chance and and and buy or sell; I have a 50% chance of winning. So what your Edge does is simply give you the perspective that, okay, if I was to take these spe specific trades at a specific time within a specific session on a specific pair and did this like a robot, whether it's a break and retest play, Fibonacci trade, or a support resistance play, whatever it might be, if I was to execute this right then over a series of Trades, I will be profitable. You don't know after 100 trades if trade number 14, 25, 75, you know, 33 are going to be profitable or they're going to be winners; you just know that if you to execute all of them based on the rules that you apply uh, and have very simply uh, the majority of them should be winners, or if not a majority, then overall at the end of that you should have a profitable uh, you know, P&L basically from there.

In terms of just going back very quickly, in terms of going from SMC ICTs back to your roots, did you struggle during that period at all to sort of go back? I lost 600K in funding with my fun and my Forex funds at the time. Yeah, uh, and that's what, because I, again, it's social media, put put all your funded accounts on a copy and trade, and you'll make, you know, stupid money; that, for me, was um, the biggest mistake that I made, I think, um, because as as of right now, I'm funding around a million dollars in funding, and I keep every account separate, and that, for me, has given me a peace of mind because if I blow one account, I've already got two, three accounts there, and a 200K account isn't something small; it's, you know, it's pretty big, and um, yeah, just going down that route again, ICTs, SMC, um, what brought me back was just the fact that, you know, I I I evaluated, finally, I journaled for one time in my life, and I understood that, oh, you not, yeah, I wasn't I wasn't journaling like that; I wasn't I was trying to keep track of it like manually, but I wasn't doing that well with that, um, but I came back to manual journaling recently, um, but again, journaling was one of the biggest game changers for me when I understood that, okay, why was my, I least look back on Telegram; I used to have a channel, just myself, my brother, and my dad; we used to trade a lot. Uh, I remember you saying, yeah, yeah, a long time ago. Yeah, so yeah, we used to just, when I, this of them, we were both like not profitable, all of us not profitable, trying to get into the trading space, no Netflix; we'd come downstairs, take the TV off, everyone connect the laptop to the TV, back test, forward test, um, trade ideas, everything, the whole lot. But when I realized that, okay, wait, we send our trade ideas into into a Telegram group, um, and just I look back at my old scroll back, I was like, wow, this is a simple trade; why don't I take these trades anymore? It wasn't the systems changing. Yeah, I lo, I just simply scrolled up; all I do was scroll up and look at my old trades, and I realized, okay, that R:R order's a 1 to 2; why am I trying to go for 1 to 5s right now and trade off this one clean order block; that's not me; I trade off support resistances; I trade with Fibonacci; I trade with the trending environment or consolidating Market in on the 4 Hour, for example, and I just catch, you know, moves; I don't need to catch the whole move, just a piece of it. And when I evaluated that and I found that perspective when I just look back, that's what changed the game for me, and I just really implemented that from that point onward. Was it what I was saying though, is was it, did you find any struggle going back, or was it like, no, it was very easy to me because it was so simple, my Approach from the from the start; that's what the beauty of my system is; it's so simple, and people don't understand this. And so were you able to just ignore like, oh, say your resistance there, but you like there a fair value gap or order block, forget that? It's just, well, I mean, to an extent now, I kind of, to an extent now I kind of have now combined my, there's a sort of silver lining in there; there's like a a blessing in disguise to an extent, although it made me lose a lot of funding, and I lost a lot of, you know, funded accounts from that, I did see something in there which I could Implement into my current, into my original style, me blending them together; it came up with the perfect uh, solution; I think I don't see many people doing this right now, um, you know, mixing retail Concepts and ICT levels are the best; so easy; it's so easy to P/L exactly, thing, exactly, and um, I look at it as a point now where like, yeah, at the end of the day, you are selling from a resistance of some sort, and you're buying at some sort of a support. Nowadays, Traders, they like to, or students that come into the game, I think it's maybe because they're coming from like a 9-to-5 corporate job or something, and back in the day, they may may have had some sort of like a blueprint to follow or formula, so they come into this game right now and think, okay, there's like an algorithm they have to crack, yeah, and that's where Mr. ICT comes into play; it's because it's like Market a certainty, you know, or as close to certainty as possible because this is real, and this is how everyone, you know, this how the bank and the markets move, you know, because of that narrative. I think it feeds into what you were saying earlier about certainty, and then you see like the likes of um, ICT come into play, and when people come across that and, you know, you got him talking about 100% certainty, algorithm, and all these other things, they're thinking that's the key; that's the um, Holy Grail right now, and that, for me, is just a whole lot of nonsense, like what he's saying and the way it's portrayed in the Industry where like, okay, the banks.

We are looking at this order block, and they're trading off this specific thing. Personally, I think it's fundamentals and just not really buying pressure from retail traders like us, but just some sort of, yeah, larger institutional input from there. Um, I don't really think it's an order block or an FG or a breaker block that's moving the markets. Um, I just think that's a marketing term that the lackeys of ICT and other people put in there. Like, for all I care, they could be called like, I don't know, apples, oranges, and bananas, right? And that can actually mean have the same sort of effect. It's just these crazy terms that people like to use. Um, and again, it gives them that certainty and that belief that it's going to work out. And then eventually, when they can't stick to that sort of system, they just fall back to something as simple as support, resistance, supply, and demand. And yeah, when you mix that in with the likes of other things like order flow and, uh, AMD, if you want to call it, you can come up with something very, very nice. And that's what I think I've developed over the years. Um, and that's what's worked for me the most. I think. I know there'll be some people who are a bit annoyed, right, for whatever reason; they can't handle someone else's opinion. Yeah, it's always so weird. I know, you know, some people—I get, you know what I get—it's so weird. I get attacked by everyone, right? Not all the time; like the supporters are way more, of course, but like when I get attacked, though, it's always so funny. I could literally get two comments, right, uh, at the same time. One would be like, "You [ __ ] you love ICT, all you have is ICT people," and the next one could be like, "You [ __ ] hate ICT or you ever do bash ICT." I'm like, "Listen, I don't do anything; I just sit there, and I barely even talk; I just ask questions." Yeah, but I don't mind; I don't care, but I find it funny. I'm never watched an ICT video once. I've just—I've watched uh, three or four, um, think, Foot L from start to end—uh, no, just like video—like it was one of his YouTube videos, so they were only like 20 minutes L. Um, I don't have the attention span for anyone, not just him, anyone when it comes to like hour-long videos or something, which is funny because I run a podcast; most of the videos are hour-long. Funny thing, though, podcasts I can listen to. I don't know why. Um, I could—I like watching them more than anything, even though if it's just like this where two people are talking, there's nothing to see. Um, I don't know what that is; maybe it's just because it's so casual. I don't know, but um, the weird thing with him is like he's definitely had a huge impact. Like, there are a lot of people who are profitable, like, you know, jcap, for example; like these people are profitable using those concepts. Um, but I think he's a [ __ ] teacher, and I don't know how people might take that. I don't know how people can learn from him. Yeah, I learned from like, uh, a few people, uh, one of them called, um, Simplify ICT, simp—the name simp—um, and a few like people that just simplify ICT really, and that's it, really. And I think those like super long-form content that he's producing, uh, I don't know how people can watch through that, and uh, I think he—he's a smart man. I've got massive respect for him in terms of like—of in terms of the way he's marketed his uh, concepts and taught, even though he's done it in a way which I don't think a lot of people can learn from in an easy manner. And yes, some people can argue it's not meant to be easy, which is fair. Okay, cool. Um, but the like—it just shows that people really struggle to learn it, but they still will sit there and listen and watch, yeah, because they just literally believe every word that he says, which fair enough. It's that perspective, I think, of believing there's a blue behind this whole thing. Yeah, yeah, it comes back to that. Yeah, it comes back to that. And I think that's what hooks everybody, and I think that's what gets, you know, the short-form content that's out nowadays—that's what gets at the loads of clicks and um, gets influencers selling a lot of courses and things like that because it's just that ideology behind it that there's a key to the algorithm to this—to this market—when in reality it's just between you, the markets, you being able to control your emotions and impulsivity in the markets and just being composed and executing based on the system you've already made for yourself that you're comfortable with, with um, and for me in that case was a higher win rate and a lower R-R reward executing that. I'm, you know, I've been never—never been happier trading. Um, it's just been that simple for me, and I've enjoyed it in the process. That's the—the thing; it's not that I love trading to an extent where I like watching candles; I just like the challenge. I like waking up and seeing gold that I trade right now. I literally stick to one pair, one session, um, a couple time frames, and that has been the biggest game changer for me as well. Another thing just to add on to that last question you asked, what changed for me? It was ignoring the noise of social media, media number one, um, learning a simplified version of these institutional concepts, 'cause I took something away from it at least, but then also, um, in the end of it, putting it all together and um, just being comfortable with the system that I've—that I've got um, and executing it religiously and again, putting it into uh, one pair, one session instead of trading a 100 different pairs. Um, because if there wasn't one pair—unless say GBPUSD—I would then jump over to GBJPY. No, that sometimes just means today is not a trading day; today is not a—a day where you need to trade. I know other people have opinions to this, but for me, what's worked the best is simplifying all down to one pair, one session, and that's New York session primarily. I have now taken trades in other sessions which have been swung over into other sessions, but primarily gold is the one pair that I like to trade; it moves the most; it's very volatile, uh, and I found more success in that, um, hitting leaderboards consistently from there, uh, doing over six figures in payouts, and I think now on track to do around half a million by the end of this year or maybe going to next year and then really scaling up from there, really with more funding. Um, in terms of that—in terms of the scaling of the capital—or before that, let's talk about gold. So like, gold-wise, you know, what sort of risk are you doing in your trades? So as—as I've gone over the years, I've stopped to—I've stopped risking very little. I've understood that without any risk there's no reward, um, and that's something I fully live by right now because if at the end of the day I believe in my system, um, like Qbank says, you know, "What's the point of risking 1% if you believe in your system?" And well, he says, "1% is for [ __ ]"—that's what he said. I believe it; people got pissed; it's true. Because I think with 0.5%, 0.25%, let's just say, um, because I think 1% on a 300K isn't too bad of a risk, but um, like going—so my—I mean, it's different for everybody, but again, for me, for those of you who want to see results and those of you who need to—who want to, like, you know, see money like that, you're not going to see money like that by risking so little. You have to put some sort of risk behind it. That's an element of life in business; I think you just can't escape and bypass. So take the risk, right? I don't think—I don't know why everyone fears it so much. On the other side of risk there's reward, and if you put that risk behind it, you will start to see some reward. And for me, I simply have lowered the frequency of trades, probably by—by 10 times the amount of what I used to a couple years ago. I take one or two trades in a single week, right? But if I'm risk—if I'm trading, I'm risking around 2 to—2 to 3% sometimes, but I'm taking that one trade on a 300K account or a 200K account; that's around, you know, 6—4 to $6,000 of risk, and I'm gaining a 1 to 1 or 1 to 2 or 1 to 3. Usually it's actually—now my risk-reward has actually gone higher now as I've developed my edge more and more, and I've seen the tendency with what the market likes to do when it gets—gets to a certain point. But again, um, yeah, my risk is around 2 to 3%; that's equivalent of around $4 to $6,000, and I'm doing that from the original balance as well. Yeah, yeah, I keep my risk all the way the same, even if I'm in drawdown; I keep it the same, and I've actually found a weird thing: when I'm in drawdown, I tend to trade even better. I think maybe because I feel like to win—yeah, I need to win, and I just don't care about it, and I just, you know—there've been times where I was down like around $10,000 one day; the next I took a trade, made $244,000, and I secured it for a payout—Amazon leaderboard as a bonus. So you know, things can—things can work out if you just stick to the plan. And I think changing your risk and changing different variables is a big, big mistake a lot of traders make. Um, you know, your—you know, your multiple—you know, you know the amount of average pips you like to take. Yeah, true. Yeah, they don't—I feel like, you know, when it comes to the whole debate about risk, yep, a lot of it comes from that—you risking say 2 to 3% of a trade; some people are going to sit there and be like, "That's too much; that's gambling," right? That's what they're going to sit there and say. But the reality is they didn't listen to what you said first, right? They just listen to that sound bite. Maybe it's my fault because that might go out as a reel by itself, right? Yeah, but—but um, they're not listening to what you said before that, though, which was you backtested, so you know your data exactly. So you know, the confidence to do that comes from the fact that you know your data exactly. But then equally as well, you said you only take one to two trades a week, while most people—not most people, but the people more than likely you would argue with, that I would imagine, are probably taking five, six, seven trades in a week. Yeah, so essentially you're taking the same risk—exact same—makes sense. If they're risking 1%, and you're taking just two trades, in the end you've taken the same risk. Yeah, but the difference might be that they're taking—you're taking high-probability; they're taking low-probability. Yeah, and they feel like they're doing something productive by trading more. You know, less is—when I found out less is more, I—I never look back really from that point onwards. Um, it's the biggest game changer for me, and people need to understand like—I—I had an idea—I don't—if this is like—I don't know if it's been implemented before, but let's take a break for a minute there, guys, 'cause I want to tell you about the number one prop firm in the world, and that is Alpha Capital. 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I was like, "What if there was a prop firm or something out there where they limited the amount of trades you took?" I would love to see the data behind that—if I don't know—traders were limited to take five—I don't know, let's pick a number—five or 10 trades in a month, how well would—how—how selective of their trades would they be, and how, you know, good would their results be from that point onwards? And I think that's something people need to implement. I think it's a challenge for people to try and take five trades, uh, in a—in a month, right? Or even try and sit on a payout when they've secured it for two weeks. I've done that multiple times, but there's been times where I've decided to, you know, go against my rules. I've been up 10, 12, $15,000 and think, "You know what? I need to hit number one on the leaderboard." I've heard my friends say this to me a few times: "Oh, you can—you can hit, you know, 20K; you can go number one." I thought, "No, I'm securing for payout." Then be that one occasion where I decide to, you know what, go off the rails a little bit and risk my full profit that I've made and end up, you know, emotionally just losing the account. So there's—these are the outside noises, but at the end of the day, when you have that data behind you, when you can have that confidence to say, "You know what? It's done X, Y, and Z multiple—multiple times over the course of the last six months to a year, and I've journaled that; I've got the data behind me," I can simply now go ahead and put that risk behind it, and if it loses, it loses, but I know that again, if I was to apply that again, there's a chance of it winning, and that's me reaping the rewards. Then instead of me risking like one 1% and doing, you know, three, four, five trades in a single week, I can just sit—do—take one selective trade, snipe it, and you know, be done with my day and secure that payout and move on to my next account. Love that. You need to start trading like streaming; I think that's—you've got the name for it, and when you hit it, you have like a soundboard. It's funny you say that about the prop firm thing, right? Prop firm-wise, it's really interesting because I don't know—I see some prop firms doing some rules recently which seems like they want traders to do well, right? And it's not that—again, like speaking in this way isn't to say like, "Oh, prop firms are against you," it's just like they have a particular business model, right? So I don't know how it all works in the sense—like people talk about monetizing data, but I don't—I've not seen anyone actually monetizing data, so I don't know. Um, but funny—funny story for you: There was this—this was before like the whole prop firm era, right? There was this guy who approached me, and he was like, "Oh, we're trying to set up this thing where we uh, copy people—reverse trading basically—um, but the aim of the game is—is it's like a competition thing, right? So they'll give accounts to everyone, and your goal was to lose as much as possible." Okay, right. "Your goal was to lose as much as possible." Okay. The big—the—the—the more—the person who lost the most would win like $1,000; second person would win $500, so on. People struggle to lose, you understand, right? So eventually, think about it this way: People then start taking the opposite of what they thought they were seeing. Mhm. And then they would lose—and then—sorry, they would win. Yeah, they win; they go—do the—then lose the competition. Yeah, right, right. But it was—it was the reverse of a—of um, of a prop firm, essentially, because it would be like, "You can't win more than 10%," yeah, if—then—then you're out of the competition, right? But the whole ethos was like, "Oh, you know, people lose more; all we have to do then is then we have to just um, copy their trades the opposite way—win," right? But then everyone was just winning, you know. Yeah, so there's something—something there—humanly—there's a—there's a gap in the market there somewhere. Yeah, there's something that needs to be figured out there, but it was—it was so interesting 'cause I—I was part of this competition. I remember I won once; I was like, "Yeah, I won 'cause I lost a load," but then a lot of the times I struggled to win 'cause this was at the point where I wasn't profitable, Tripp, but there was—I was struggled to win the competition because I was winning, then I was like, "What the hell's going on here," right? So essentially, really all people really have to do is whatever they want to do. Yeah, do the opposite of that, and you win—that's the best advice—if you want to buy, sell instead, right? And if you think that—if you're in this competition where you need to sell because you think that's going to be the losing thing, buying—you know. Um, but yeah, like that—I just thought that would be funny. That's crazy. Um, this whole like data thing, and I think—but really what you said, though, I think off the back of that is less is more, like if you—yeah, quality over quantity—like all these sayings that apply really to life in general, right? People talk about friends and all that sort of thing—it really is true, and there's a reason why it's true. And I think—I think maturity, experience, and then doing the work—and what I mean by maturity and experience people can understand, right? Experience is you're doing it long enough; maturity is just being more mature about your trades and as a person, as a trader. But experience is where people like—experience—we said—uh, doing the work—what does that break down to is what you've said, though. Yep, the data. You know, me—I can't stress enough; I think the data is so important, yeah, right? Because it's not about just being able to say, "Oh, here are 10 trades I took, or 50 trades I took." It's not even just about like, "Ah, this is my um, you know, my average winning streak or whatever." No, it's literally about just having the confidence off the back of it, right? Basically, yeah. You know, knowing that, okay, I've had on average over 100 trades, I've lost three in a row; it happens quite often. Yeah, so next time you lose three trades in a row, are you going to be as edgy and—and emotional? Exactly. Probably not because you've seen it; it's a normal thing versus if you don't know that data and you don't have that understanding, you—you're always going to get emotional after a couple of trades, you know, when you've lost, or even one. Same with winning streak: You—if you've noticed that you win five trades in a row on average, next time you win five trades in a row, you're going to be like, "Okay, yeah, exactly; now I need to calm down." Exactly. For me—for me, that was the case where I would—it's weird how I—how I—how I secure these payouts; it's literally from the original balance, take one trade, done; secure for payout—that's like—is for me. I see trading more frequently as more risk. So with that being in mind, and if I—I'm aiming usually for 5 to 6% on an account, and um, yeah, sometimes I'll go a bit above it; sometimes I'll be a little bit below it—does it naturally, right? Yeah, so I just feel like, you know, when I secure that—when I make sort of profit at 5% on a 200K—like around—I—I don't look at percentages that much; I look at it just from money. I mean, we are—we are at the end of the day all trading for the money at the end of the day, so I look at it as if like I want to make a minimum of like $10,000 on each account, um, and if I can do that consistently, then yeah—bi-weekly payouts—I can do that again. And I think the best month I had was around a $70,000 month, and that's because I was just on a very good win streak. At the end of the day, I was taking the trade I was supposed to, and I wasn't um, doubling up on the payouts—had already secured. I know a lot of people—it works with some people where they maybe make a little bit of money and they risk it, and then they, you know, got leverage it higher, but for me, I'm very comfortable with just taking one or two trades, getting to that profit target of mine, which is mental in my head, um, securing that for payout, going again two weeks later. What about in terms of like you said you reached about a million in capital? Is there any thoughts of two, three—? There is, but I'm comfortable where I am, and I've noticed—maybe it's just a—try the other thing, but I've tried to scale my funding a little bit, and yeah, I've secured another account, but then I've disregarded other accounts or one other account from my current portfolio. You think it's like a bandwidth thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, rather than like a mental—psychology. I think—I think I tend to like just go, you know, degenerate on one of the accounts and over-leverage or something, thinking it doesn't really matter, and then I kind of just like stop at that point. So I know I have the ability to make, you know, to get a lot more in funding, but for me, I'm just very comfortable with where I am, uh, in terms of what is generating for me consistently, and again, rotating my accounts instead of just putting them all on a trade copier. I found much, much more success rotating them out, um, again diversifying the risk as well. I have one high-risk, one medium-risk; I don't really do low-risk, but just two different medium-risk accounts, and um, yeah, with that, I, you know, it's very comfortable. Uh, if I ever do lose one account, I've got two more to back it up. Um, and that's another thing I—against social media—always tell you to put things onto that one trade copier, but there's so much risk behind that. I mean, don't forget it takes time for people to get funded nowadays. For me, I honestly have decided to take challenges—the very high-risk approach. I know some prop firms don't like this and—and people in general don't like to do this, but that's because my rules that I have in place to do that is making sure that I can afford at least three to five more of those accounts comfortably—comfortably before it's, you know, any—before it affects me negatively financially, right? So I tell people that the challenge phase is something you want to pass and get paid as fast as possible; you're not getting paid for that, right? A lot of these prop firms nowadays, I've seen them uh, talking about, you know, "Spend time; be slow on the challenge phase." They—I remember old—like the "phun a trader," you know, to—to congratulate people that would spend two months on the phase one. I'm looking at that thinking, "I feel—"

Sorry for that, Trader. Like they've spent two months on that phase one, for example, right? And then, like, they—you don't know if they're going to even pass phase two. Let's say they've got funded, and it took them three months to get funded. So much time has been wasted there, right? Time is money, again. And I—I honestly, it hurts me to see that because now, at this point, they've got three months of time, not wasted I would say, but time where they don't even get paid for that, right? And now, when they go to the funded account, they must be feeling something: "Oh my God, I'm on funded stage right now," feeling some sort of crazy feelings.

Blow exactly. Yeah. And not only will they just blow it, but they'll just be trading off the back of the thought of, like, "Okay, you know what? All those three months of hard work I've not been paid for it; let me just get that money back," or whatever, somewhat to that extent. And that will lose them—blow the account. So now that's three months wasted, whereas me, for example, okay, maybe I blow three accounts in a week, right? Or three accounts in a month of challenges, but that fourth account that I get, okay, I've got it now, and I've secured a payout for it by trading my style—my aggressive style—and I made back that cost times, you know, 5, 10—the amount.

Literally just had a student the other day, one of my close friends. I don't really mentor people like that, but me, being me, being in Dubai, um, you know, um, a couple of months ago, um, my friends were seeing me, you know, taking these trades on gold in front of them, making 5, 10, $15,000 in front of them. Uh, and one of my friends—who'd actually, funny story with him—he'd actually went ahead and um, scratched the Ferrari, so it was around a $10,000 uh, payment he had to make, you know, to make that. I said, "You know what? The fastest way you can generate this capital is by prop firms." Everyone else thinking of other ideas—selling this, selling that. I said, "You know what? If you put $5,000 aside to put into prop firms, I believe with my help you can get funded and get your money—money back basically, or generate enough capital to continue from that point onwards." Believe it or not, we all documented it; it's going to be on my YouTube soon, hopefully. And um, yeah, hopefully? Is it? Yeah, I know it's just got a massive backlog of content. You think it'll be out by now? By now? No. Give it a month or so; I think it'll end up coming out. But basically, I think you get it, man. What's going on? I know I'm—I'm waiting on it. It's just production team—production team editing all that—going to take a long time. I'm a perfectionist. I'm a perfectionist. You see the quality, hopefully coming soon.

But overall, with that guy—good friend of mine—he took the risk. First challenge, he failed; second challenge, he failed; third challenge, he passed—using high risk, by the way. We—myself, my style is taking one trade to pass phase one, one trade to pass phase two—and yeah, simply on that third challenge, he passed it, got funded, and to date he's generated over $155,000 in payouts. And he's a beginner; he didn't even know about gold; he didn't know about—he only knew about crypto. He's like a—a hodler, whatever you call him—just know buying and holding, losing money. Yeah, so I put him onto the right thing. That's it. He's literally—I don't—I've never seen that from any of the influencers nowadays—and it's all documented, legit. That's like—that's like that—like Greg Zuerlein. Yeah, you ever seen his ads? Yeah, the Roll G. He's said, "Y'all G, teach my gardener to trade." It's all staged. Yeah, but that's sick; that's really sick. I'm excited to see that. You need to make content, bro. You need to—I always say, like, I know some people, they have their opinions about content creators or real traders not making content, but like if the real traders don't make content, yeah, who's left? Exactly, right? Who's left then? And then what? Then where's your argument, you know? Um, but I think you would make it good. I remember you had a—you had a—you have a vlog, if I'm not mistaken, out from a while ago now. I imagine it did really well as well, and uh, it was good; it was good fun. It was like, you know, the—the day in the life, basically. Day in the life. People will think, "Oh, you know, that's not the day in life," but the reality is—how old are you again? No, I'm 23. 23. Yeah, so like, you know, you're young; you're smashing out the prop firms, smashing the skill set, done the hard work already. That's what people will ignore, right? They'll see that and be like, "Oh, yeah, you know, this is lifestyle," but it's not. It's like that is your lifestyle now, but you need to see the clips of you sweeping the floor, you know, um, wearing the—the masks at the—at the warehouse, etc. Like if you don't see that and you're only trying to look at one thing, yeah, and it's not like you're hiding that because I've seen that you've shown it as well, and you've explained it today.

100%. Um, and that's where, again, it's like, I don't know what it is. Do you think it's the psychology of the human being where they're just like, "Look, this is what he's doing right now; he must have always—" That's why those comments come of, like, exactly. Yeah, "know he's always been rich." Yeah, yeah, know, 100%. But I have to like express to people that I'm literally just like everybody else. I was that guy working in call centers, you know, doing sales, doing sweeping the floor—shop floor assistant, stacking shelves—that was me. I'm not more special; all I had was a vision and a plan and a goal, and all I did was execute every single day. Didn't care about the time; didn't care how long it would take; I just believed that it would work. And I tell this to people that have a brand nowadays or just content or have a skill set: just keep doing that; keep doing it. Do it for one month, two months, three months, four months. Maybe it—it won't pay you for those four months, but that fifth month when you decide to put something out there, monetize it, or you know, that fifth month when you decide to keep going at it, that might just make back all your costs, and you might go, you know, crazy with it and make back everything plus a lot more. What do you—you think to personal accounts? So that's the thing I was going to ask you as well—what your opinion is on it. Um, I need some convincing, you know, with personal accounts, because the prop model is just so beneficial right now. I don't see why anyone wouldn't take advantage of that. And I understand, yes, building a track record on all these other things, but I see—when I see an opportunity, I try to leverage it as much as possible until it's gone. And if it's gone, okay, then I'll think about something else, because I'm—my time is special. And if I'm dedicating time onto a prop firm account and I can see that it's generating a crazy return percentage-wise, I'm not trying to get off that; I'm trying to rinse that as much as possible—milk it. And then, if you know, everything hits the fan and you know, everything goes down—there's no more prop firms ever, okay—then there's personal accounts. Yes, it might help me build a track record, but I don't know; I need some convincing.

In fact, no, I think—you are right; like your thinking is correct. Like, at the end of the day, you—able to leverage it from the very beginning of your jour—start of your journey in terms of profitability. You know, you didn't have capital—that sort of capital to trade personally, right? And that's where a lot of people are. You know, I just had someone just before you who's on the part—he's been trading for 27 years, um, you know, and he's obviously always traded personal, but one thing that has changed from back then to now is that if you wanted to trade back then, you could, but you'd need money—like you'd need 10, 20, 30, 40K to be able to trade—and more than likely you'd still lose it. So really, you know, it was reserved for people who had more professional jobs who had the capital to be able to do that. Well, now, even just putting prop firms aside, you can open a brokerage account with 250 quid, so it's completely different, right? Yeah. Uh, but prop firms has—it's so great benefits in terms of leveraging, but then also the rule set as well—forcing a lot of good risk management principles as well—um, and I think they're not going anywhere. I think some are—obviously, some have already—some have already gone—but there are definitely some that probably are still going, and some that are going to fix some things and—and hopefully be stronger. Then some are doing really well, you know; some have got the good infrastructure already, which is great. And I think definitely—always do—as long as they're there, keep using them. You know, why not? You're already getting paid, right? And anyone who has the skill set—most of all—will get paid very handsomely and do very well with low risk. But what I will say is that you should have a personal as well. Why not? Yeah, know, it's not—it's not hard. I've already set aside like around $100,000 to test in that—not even about track record; it's just for you personally. So I think you got 100—all I would say though is with the personal, potentially just to start off with—maybe, and this is me being my personal opinion; it's not right or wrong—is uh, reduce the risk on the personal to begin with, just because it's not demo; it's real—um, and there might be some psychological things there, right? But at the end of the day, if you know—again, this is what it comes down to—you know your data, you know your system, etc. So if you know your data and you know your system—um, and you know obviously your journey in terms of risk to reward on the prop challenges—because the only thing with prop I will say, and it was someone—someone else said it to me; I can't remember who it was; I think it was the darn X guy—uh, the thing with prop is it can convince some traders that they're profitable, but in reality they're not. Yeah, right? 100%, because let's say you have 100K accounts and you've blown 10 of them, right? In reality, you've blown 5K MH for paying for the challenge. Yep. And then you—the—the—the last one you make 10 grand on, right? After profit split, maybe you make eight grand, so now you're 3K in profit MH. The reality though, in terms of trading, is you actually—uh, 90K down. Yeah, because you've lost 10,000 10 times. Yep. And then you just made 10 grand. So that person is not profitable. So only you—this what I'm getting back to—only you will know obviously what your model looks like on—in reality. Y. And I think—I'm sure it's profitable, so then you'll know what to do on a personal. But I think personal, bro, is the best way because, at the end of the day, um, it depends on your goals as well, I'd say actually, yeah. You know, putting that aside, I'd say it's on your goals. So like if you want to be someone who's managing tens of millions, hundreds of millions and so on and so forth, and you want to—you want to—um, get people to invest into you and you manage their capital—cap. Yeah, yeah. Then of course, personal, of course. Yeah, know, I've had like people reach out to me already—funds and things like this—uh, and people invest in themselves directly. So in that sense, yeah, I'm—I'm more than happy to manage certain capital, but to be completely honest, trading is a very stressful business, and I don't see myself doing it forever. I do see myself trading here and there; I don't mean like full-time in terms of professionally on a certain super high level. I think trading is a vehicle for you to generate certain capital and invest into more reliable businesses and more—um, solid infrastructure and something more bricks and mortar you can—you can—you can say, or something that just has more—something that's more established. Like, for example, myself right now—AI is a massive thing, right? Um, a lot of people have been talking about AI—AI is the future, but how many people are actually putting their money where their mouth is and making action in that—in that—in that industry, really? So that's another project—few projects I have going in there—robots, um, EAs, things like this—as—algorithms, as indicators, uh, AI in general, right? There's just—there's so much—such a big avenue there to be—explored, and I think—um, that is somewhere I want to go into a little bit more and invest—also, again, into my brand, my content, my education, because the amount of lives that I've helped change in terms of my education—it's crazy. And I sometimes I have to like remind myself, you know, how much this—this person is doing, what—what levels he's at right now compared to where he was a few months ago. So again, at the end of the day, I want to leave some more—sort of a legacy; I want to leave something that people can remember. Okay, uh, Sniper Ad said this, X, Y, and Z. Let's teach it to this person and that. At the end of the day, is knowledge getting passed down, and that's like the best thing I can ask for. I want to change lives; I want to help people—um, and have my name somewhat—have some sort of value—um, and yeah, like the other little projects I have—where I want to use this capital to invest because, again, the prop firm space—the prop firm model—only investing a couple thousand dollars, even—to make tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars back—that's free liquid cash now you can put into anything you wanted to—um, and basically, you know, into your hobbies, even—like my streaming setup, if I want to go down that route, I can invest into there. And overall, that's the kind of avenue I want to go down. A lot of people hate on algorithms and robots and EAs and things like that, but there's a massive—I know people—I know I've worked with a lot of—people closely for the last year and a half, two years right now—uh, and we've developed some very, very interesting things. And I used to have a computer science sort of background; I was always into programming. So again, having that capital allows me to explore those sort of dreams and put them into reality. Uh, people always say that money isn't happiness and all these other things, but money allows you to, you know, invest into things that will make you happy—uh, and that for me is that, you know, programming, coding—um, developing things that can be passive for you—make an income for you passively—um, all these other avenues—it's just very exciting times—uh, with AI, with the way technology is advancing. And I think you need to take advantage of that now while you still can—um, because again, I feel I have this sort of—I don't know—like rush before, and I had it with the prop firms; I had it before the whole saga happened with the drama. I said to everyone around me—the boys I was with—it's like, "Guys, you need to make use of the leverage we have available to us because I think something's going to happen where we're not going to be allowed this," or something's going to happen; I don't know what it was. Suddenly, 5, 10 prop firms—whatever it was—shut down. MetaQuotes did that—that big thing—and that's when it all went, 'cause I used to see people on leaderboards, you know, $440,000 and pay—on profit—50,000, 30,000—not that $10,000 or 50,000 is bad, which I was at, but I thought, "You know what? There—there's money there to be made. Let's—to make use of it"—and then, you know, something happened. So I feel like the same thing's happening now—um, and also just looking at a few of the people in the space—there was that Owen Morton, who I really like the podcast, and I learned a lot of things from these people that have extremely high net worth and extremely—just have a big sort of—um, market share of this sort of industry. There's a lot to be explored, and you need to take advantage now before the time runs out, really.

Now that's a good point actually as well, like, you know, there's so much more than just—you can be in the trading industry without trading. Owen's a prime example of that, and uh, there's actually so much more in terms of solutions, because what is—how do you make money at the end of the day? It's value of some kind, except for trading. Trading is the one thing where—where you don't—you're not really providing value. Exactly. But saying that, you—there's still such a level of skill set—internal skill set—that is required, so it's not like you just do money for nothing, right? Uh, but aside from that, there's value; you have to provide value in some kind of way—um, and if you can find anything within the trading space that provides value—like even with Owen, it's like technology; it's—it's APIs; it's payment process. You know, people are really thinking on them. No, exactly. That system analysis is what I learned a lot in—in university, because I don't forget I was a university student at full-time—um, you know, warehouse work at the same time. So a lot of my mind was just thinking about how is this person making money. And that's another thing people need to take away—um, in life, in entrepreneurship, in business—you find someone who's successful; you find out, okay, he's got X, Y, and Z; how did he get there? Work backwards. Now, and that was just another thing—systems analysis is a massive, massive thing, and I used to think, you know, universities just for—I don't know—NPCs—waste of time. I never thought I'd say this because I just—again—thought entrepreneurship and, you know, being solo businessman—trading. Exactly. Yeah. So as I—you know, I've been in the trading space now for the last—um, year and a half, two years—very profitably in, you know, leaderboards, things like this and making trading my main source of income—then as I've networked and I've understood the perspective of more—more—more—more and more people and content creators out here, and I'm seeing the business angle they're put onto it, and I studied business management—uh, back in university—now I'm starting to realize, okay, there's a whole other world out there—um, which I can capitalize on. And no—and yes, I could have done—the—the thing that a lot of other people would have done—a lot of other influencers who would have maybe—and people still do it to this day. I know I'm not going to name and shame, but I know a lot of people that have—that are using results of theirs that are from way back, you know, two, three years ago or maybe one or two good trades, and to this day they're still using that as their sort of, you know, authenticity claim and their verification claim. And—um, that for me is just like, "Thank God I didn't go down that route." I took the harder route—the—the—the route that requires you to be a bit more braver, and that was to, you know, generate consistent income from trading—a—a good amount as well—uh, over the last six months to a year.

Now it's interesting to say that because uh, some people say to me like, "Why do you keep getting these prop traders on? They're not real traders," all this stuff. And uh, I always find it interesting because it's like the reason I do it—I try—I don't try and focus on it, but it's just—it's easier to focus on it—it's simply because it's verifiable. Like you can verify that this guy's had—especially like someone like yourself—it's like consistent payouts—like JCAP—consistent payouts. You know, even if people have done it like where they've had huge payouts, right—um, and they're doing the risk to reward model, but they're honest about it—that's cool. Like it's verified that they've had the money, and then they've explained how they got the money—um, so that's why I do that. But then equally, at the same time, there are some people who might get a big payout once, and I have had one or two of those on, and I normally try and say it to them—I try and say like, "Hey, you know, you've had this one time. You know, the statistics say—or what people say is that, you know, after this, people normally lose." I say it on the pod, but it's not—maybe it's not my place to say that; I don't know. But um, I'm trying to avoid that moving forward because I really am trying to like really put a focus on—and people would have seen by the guests we've had on when this comes out—like we've had—the Market Wizards offer—Jack Schwager; we've had Chris Gaffney on—ex JP Morgan; we've had—Charlie Burton on; we've had—uh, who else we had on? We've had a bunch of people—we had some really crazy traders on. That's what I like to see. Sometimes, you know, just a different angle in the entrepreneurship—business—in the business world, 'cause ultimately I feel like that's where everything kind of goes after the trading—after, you know, do well in crypto, do well in stocks, whatever it might be—uh, eventually all comes funnels back down to the business, you know, side of things. And yeah, seeing that value is—it's—it's very, very insightful. 100%. How does it feel though for you, going from making 60 a day—1 pound a day—long hours, strenuous kind of [ __ ] jobs, you know, to making 300,000 plus? It's—um, it feels deserved, but—um, it feels—yeah, I can't really complain; it's the best feeling ever, you know, to—to be able to not look at your bank account when you're ordering Uber Eats or when you're booking a flight or whenever you're just taking trips or do whatever you want. That's like an incomparable feeling, like the stress I used to have when I used to like just—again—order food and look at my bank account and things like this—that's just something that I hate so much. And I feel like when you hate something so much and you—you—and your why is so big, that's when you'll make the—the biggest change, and that's what will lead you to, you know, success at some point. But yeah, it's—it's an overwhelming feeling, and I feel like I'm not—I used to listen to people on interviews and, you know, Instagram, whatever—they'd hit like, you know, $100,000 in profit of something—maybe it's a business or whatever it might have been—and then they'd sit there and tell the, you know, the—the interviewer or whoever the host that wasn't enough for me, and I needed more. And I think, "How greedy, you know, like how—how weird of them," like that's so strange, like, "Are you not happy with 100K?" But being in that position right now, I understand that there's always another mountain to climb, and that hunger within you has to maintain or else you will lose it all, you know, like the same way you got there is just—you can fall faster than the—the—the—the speed you—you—you got up there, so you need to be very, very careful. And I think—um—I need to just really push myself beyond that seven-figure mark—um, to keep this level of, you know, happiness up and maintain it.

I couldn't agree more, and it's—it's so interesting you say that because like—goes to show that when we talked about maturity earlier—that—that—that's—that's what it looks like, you know. It's just a case where one time you had a belief or a certain thought—yeah—a certain opinion, and then that's allowed to change, you know, through experience—through getting to certain milestones, because a lot of the time—well, not a lot of the time—pretty much all of the time—our opinions are based off our perception, right? And what we've lived—you know, our experience at that time, and therefore it's—it's allowed to change because once you then experience something different or go—

To a different level, or one of the best examples. And I think probably why traveling is so important for people is when you travel, right? You have a perspective about, like, a lot of people with Dubai. A lot of English people, for example, with Dubai, is um, they assume Dubai is like this strict place; they can't—they—to wear like loads of clothing, and they can't hold their partner's hand and all this because of the news, right? But that's their perceptions based on that; that's what they think. But then, and then it's so funny because sometimes people are like, "Oh, I'm going to Dubai; can I do this? Can I do that?" Like, you go there, you'll see, yeah. Um, and then when they go there, then they realize, right, it's not to say Dubai is this amazing place, for example, is incredible, but um, you know, that's all down to personal opinion, yeah. But those perceptions completely switch once you've then experienced it. That's just like a bit more of a, I'd say, an elementary example, but uh, yeah, it's great what you've said though, in terms of like the change in that mindset, yeah.

You know, in terms of just going back to one point because we kind of went over it in terms of the personal account, I think it's good for a personal account; I think it's good to have one regardless of the goal of what you're looking to do. Reason being, though, is just because with the prop firms, I don't think they're going anywhere personally, but at the end of the day, their rules, profit splits, their timeline, right? That's the only reason I say have a good personal, is that you have your own timeline, your own rules—obviously still keep the rules, right—but your own rules; you withdraw when you want, you compound when you want, you stop trading whenever you want with no stress of deactivation or anything like that.

Yeah, true. Um, that's the only reason I say it because I think it's good because at the end of the day, let's say, God forbid, anything did happen to prop firms; they all went away, okay, right? You'd rather ahead of time have that skill set of, like, trading personal capital, you know what I mean? And because you have an edge, what do you have to lose, right? Other than—fair point, as you said—is capital gets tied up in that account, right? But the beauty is if you ever need it, you just—it's almost as liquid as owning gold, for example; basically you just go and sell the gold, right? Sure, or owning stock in a sense, right. Um, but yeah, my suggestion would be to have one.

Yeah, I'm definitely looking into it. Um, I've had many people tell me about that. I think it's just more this case of um, people going down the route of saying, uh, you know, "build a track record and become a fund manager." That's not put me off really; it's just like that's not my goal, so I'll stick with prop firms, you know, rather than just go down that route. 100%. I think it—I think literally just having that personal power and just being prepared for any scenario, I think that's it, like regardless of—at the end of the day, what's the worst-case scenario? You've built—you've got this skill set, this edge; you're putting it on a personal account; you're just making more money. Yeah. And the way I would see it as well, really, for you would be that you don't necessarily need to withdraw from that account, or I would say withdraw until you break even on the account, right? So then all the money is in there is risk-free; then you just try compounding it; you you never know, you might end up having a 500K account personal, you know, and before you know it, again, perception-wise, what we just talked about, you might be like, "Yo, forget these props; I got 500K here; going to get to two, three million," exactly, you know what I mean? And you know, and the beauty is it's just both, you know, it's like—that's what I love about trading, though, is like there's so many options; it's like, uh, you trading gold, for example, why don't you trade Futures gold? You know, like there's so many options—there, not you should—but like there's so many options.

I know Futures firms are like so different. Yeah, I've heard—I've heard of—I've seen some people like apparently kill it, but then a lot like the rules are just crazy; I've never looked into it, but um, but I love it. But in terms of you, you know, uh, prop firm-wise, what would you say? Because not only have you been trading yourself and people around you as well, but then also students-wise, what would you say the biggest issue you've seen people have when it comes to trading prop firms? Issue in terms of like neg—like something they're not doing right, like the way they—they—they do it or treat it or think about it, it's just causing them harm? I've been—I keep seeing, you know, people overcomplicate, and it sounds—and people are watching thinking, "What's he talking about? Overcomplicate? How can I simplify something?" Look at the end of the day, if you're selling from a resistance, you're selling at a high; if you at the end of the day you want to buy low, sell high, right? If you have this sort of system in mind, then your brain at that—just from hearing that—will simplify things to a certain level. If you put too much stress on these extra variables, you know, that—that you're hearing from social media mentors that are just extra for no reason, right? That's what's going to cause you to force something that you're not really capable of carrying out.

So for me, my—my sort of trading style, my typical trade is very, very simple. Let's just say, for me, I always start off—no matter how advanced you are in trading—I define to all people who are learning with me what an uptrend is, what a downtrend is. So a simple higher high, higher low, higher high; that's a three-leg extension; it's one of my favorite concepts, right? All you need to be profitable, to an extent, right, is this one—one or two. I have a break and retest, or you can call it a break and retrace and a bounce play; that's it. I only have two in my playbook; I can do like a few more; I've learned a lot of—a lot of ICT strategies in the past, you know, London Kill Zone strategy, ABC, whatever, but these two are my favorite: break and retest and a bounce play. And for example, with the break and retest, all you need is to understand that a higher high, a higher low, and a higher high; there's a 90% success rate with the market then coming back down, making that higher low and then continuing in that direction it started; maybe it doesn't break the previous high, maybe it does, but you just need to catch a piece of that pie, right, a piece of that move. And very simply, you just pull out the Fibonacci, right? You look for some liquidity above the areas of interest; that can be your 61, your 70.5, your 79. And then if you have, along with that, these institutional levels, the FGs, the breaker blocks, the um, EMAs even, right, whatever it might be, a trend line; these are all support and confluences you can have, right? And very simply, you need to catch that trade around that area in somewhat of a discounted area; I don't know if you call it discounted or premium; I don't really know, but said buying at a low, right? You're buying at somewhat of a discounted price. If you have like, let's say a phone price from zero to the one of that Fibonacci, um, the price was at 0 pounds, then it was 1, and then the price has now up to 60% of that value, right? So now it's worth £40, right, or £30; you're buying it for that much, and now the price is rocketing high. You think of it as like a—a shop analogy; you know, shops don't have um, sales on for a long period of time; they're kind of quick, right, flash sale. So that's the same sort of analogy I use when I'm looking at the markets when it comes into these areas of interest, these FUGs, these order block, these Fibonacci levels, right? It's going to usually have a quick entry there, and that's where you get those sniper entries. So that's all you need, right? And if you find a bit of liquidity, you find the area of interest with supporting support lines, daily, 4-hour, time of day on that specific pair. Time of day for me usually is New York session, around—well, I have a few hot spot times where I've seen the market give me very nice, clean moves after it's built some structure, and that's very simply 10:00 a.m., 12:00 p.m. UK time, 1:30 p.m. UK time, 2:30, and uh, 5:00 p.m. These are like my five favorite times to look for opportunities to trade. And along with that, they are sometimes red folder news, um, and yeah, I mean, it sounds like I'm giving a whole lot of John, but it's really not when I simplify it down—giving the all—yeah, I know when you see the—when you see the sort of illustrations maybe on this next reel or whatever, is very, very clean, very, very simple. At the end of the day, you're just buying at a higher low, or you're selling at a lower high, and you're just trading that into the next level of resistance or the next level of support.

Um, and I see too many people—back to your question—to answer that—where—where's it going for them? They just—they're not even looking at it from that perspective of buying low, selling high; they're just straight into the order blocks, straight into the FUGs, and these—I don't know, CBI and all these other new things; I've heard it's a whole another world, right? And uh, they're just forgetting the basics, and I think that's the number one thing. When you remember the basics, and you remember to catch—you know, put your stop loss below the low, right, where—to a point where it's—if it was to hit that stop loss, the trade idea is now wrong. So if I have a higher high, a higher low, and a higher high, and the price was to now breach this previous low, there's a—there's a very high chance now the market potentially is downtrending or consolidating, but at the end of the day, it's very unlikely for the market to continue higher after it's reached that previous level. So when you can identify market structure, when you can identify the trend on the higher time frame, and then use multiple time frame correlation like I teach, is—it's art; it gets to a point where it's beautiful, and there's no confusion about it; it's so clean and it's so simple, it just makes sense. And that's how I've transformed traders from beginners to making $520,000 in payouts just from like within the first two months. So simplicity is key, and people tend to overcomplicate things, and they don't look at the overall trend; they don't over—they don't look at the simplicity of things: buy low, sell high, and they just jump straight into the deep end. And maybe, again, it's all because of this uh, blueprint or formula or Holy Grail that's been advertised to them and social media, the lacks of ICT, you know, giving them this sort of um, I don't know, just this—this—this sort of prize that they need to, you know, gain in front of them, and that's what leads them astray. So I think, come back to your senses, go back to your roots, go back to simplicity, and that'll fix all your problems. You need to have a strong foundation; can app more comp; you—I start—I start off basic; I went down the institutional route; I came back, and I mixed them both together, and it—now it balances out for both traders. I see people coming from the IT cult who have not found profitability; people that have come from support and resistance, they don't—profitability; and mix them both together, and now people are very, very happy. No, people hopefully taken notes from that, you know. One—one thing that's going to be interesting, people aren't going to be happy about the—I take a beginner in two months, they're making 15, 20K, but the thing is, again, I just like to stress: verify trader with results. And the funny thing is, you back it up well; you got the video coming, right? Don't worry; it's going to be published very soon, and you're going to see the results. I love it. Uh, what I was going to ask you, though, in terms of time frames-wise, um, you know, we've talked about your strategy, we've talked about sort of risk reward model, risk everything. In terms of time frames, though, uh, entry-wise, what's sort of the lowest time frame you'll go for entry?

Five-minute. Um, my favorite time frame is the 15-minute. I feel like if traders start to treat the 15-minute time frame with the perspective of that's the main time frame where you're going to be outlining structure on, but if you look at the 4-hour and the 1-hour as almost like the direction for the day. So if you outline structure on the 1-hour and the 4-hour as the daily direction or the direction for the day, and then you look into the 15-minute time frame—when you look into the 15-minute time frame and using that multiple time frame correlation, you will see a whole different dimension; it's literally the most beautiful thing when you're seeing, let's say, a 1-hour higher high, higher high, higher low, higher high on the 1-hour, and now you drop down to the 15-minute time frame, you have now a choice of maybe trading that higher high down into another—the higher low because the structure is so clean. In my opinion, I think the 15-minute is just beautiful. And 5-minute, you can just take a little couple entries on, but again, I use multiple time frames; I do look at the market on the 1-minute or the 3-minute to just see where the trade's going or how it's reacting off price, but when it comes to my zones, when it comes to my key levels, I'm just entering really off the 15-minute time frame primarily, um, with the 1-hour and the 4-hour in mind. Um, that's—I don't really look at too many—the daily sweeps and the—the daily—the weekly expansions and all these other things; I really don't care about that that much. I used to be one of those traders that would go to the monthly time frame, then the weekly and the daily, um, and then the 4-hour and read—topographical analysis. Yeah, that works to an extent; it works, but for me, when I know the direction of um, the day by outlining the 4-hour, 1-hour structure, I just simply look on the 15-minute time frame to find my quick intraday trades, and sometimes they expand in my direction for a long time, and I can swing them, or sometimes it's a little scalp, and it's enough of a one-to-one, one-to—well, one-to-two mainly.

Definitely. When—when you're in a trade, do you sit and watch it, or do you just set it? So it—yeah, no, more times than not, I um, actually try to monitor my trade while I'm in it. I'm not—I'm not comfortable really just setting it and leaving it and forgetting about it and sleeping or something. I mean, I do sometimes when I'm very tired in the mornings, um, I'll see an opportunity, I enter it, go to sleep, wake up and see if it's hit take profit or stop loss, um, and that has worked out for me a few times, but yeah, more times than not, I'm just monitoring the trade, and I feel like you have to be on top of it if you—if you need to manage those. In fact, if anything, uh, monitoring the trade while it's active is probably the most important part of the whole thing. Uh, people—I don't know where they've made—social media again; people have been talking about: enter the trade, go to sleep, go for a walk, whatever, forget about it, and you know, hit take profit. No, I think managing your emotions during the time that the trade's in play is vital; it's—you know, it's pivotal to your success. And people that understand that, they—they will get it because that is the—that is the—the—the experience you need to have, right? And we all have experience of backtesting; we all have experience of forward testing, paper trading; in hindsight, everything's in hindsight, right? Or before the market—you know, before you take a trade, you do analysis, then when you enter based on your rule set and your—and your trading plan. I think this is another thing where you need to be the most focused, right now, because that's what's going to allow you to manage your emotions and remember to journal that, right? Okay, when the market was in a one-to-one or was that halfway to my take profit, I was feeling XYZ; when it was in drawdown of a certain amount, I was feeling like this. Take a note of that mentally; if you don't want to do it physically on a journal, remember that mentally; you need to get reps of that specific circumstance in as many times as possible for you to be super comfortable when taking trades in the future. For me, when I—I can now happily put three or 4% behind a trade, right, and not worry too much; I know I might be losing $12,000, I might be losing $10,000 on this trade, but you know what? I understand the risk behind it; I've been here before; I've—I've seen red numbers; I've seen—you know, I've seen accounts blown; I've seen tens of thousands gone in front of me, right? But I've also seen tens of thousands in profit, $20,000 in profit, right? So I know what to expect when the—when I execute this trade, and that's the part everyone's missing out; people are just thinking to execute the trade, run away, and then come back. But if you can master the art of staying composed within the trade running, that's where you'll find the most success, 'cause you need to trade when you're most comfortable and when you're composed and when you're relaxed; that's where your best trades come out. For me, that's been the—that's been the game changer. I made—I think one of my best trades was 27 or $24,000 in a single trade, and I genuinely did not care about the trade. Um, you need to get to a point where—like I think because most people think they need to just get to know more in this business, but this business isn't about getting to know more; it's about getting your mind to the point where you're completely detached from the outcome of the trade, so you know you're most composed, you're most relaxed, and just executing based on your rule set.

Would you say how often does that happen for you, though? So like, there's one trade—your best trade sticks out to you with that, but would you say that you're human, obviously, at the end of the day, so like it's just less so like these crazy highs and lows with emotion; it's more so just quite stable? Still, there's something there that you still feel good when you—

Yeah, no, it's got to the point now where like I see like 5, $20,000, like I had the other day; I was—I couldn't—okay, I smiled a little bit; okay, great day, um, but order some food. Yeah, no, I literally don't—like it used to be—I used to celebrate, you know, I'd take a loss, you know, I'd be heartbroken, but never let losses, you know, get to your heart, and never let wins get to your head, and that's one big thing that I took, you know, just from sport in general as well. Um, I used to play football a lot, so when you—when you apply that into trading, into life, you become—become a lot more calmer with yourself, you know, you don't—you don't need to exceed anything; you don't need to go below anything; just chill, be relaxed, be calm, and take it as it goes along, you know, every another day is another training day. Someone's made a million, someone's lost a million; someone's made a thousand, someone's lost a thousand; just be grateful for the position that you're in and take it one day at a time, um, and yeah, that's just been the—the biggest game changer for me, just looking at—looking at life and trading from that perspective, really.

I love that; I love that. Well, Ads, I appreciate you coming down very much. It wasn't a short journey. No, I know, but it's nice—it's a nice—def—you go—s—what—what time—didn't go that route—there a route—it's the perfect day for me, yeah. It was—it's a very—I don't like that road, especially; I used to drive it when it would rain; that's fear for my life—scary, fear for my life. But I really appreciate you coming down, man, and uh, it's an absolute pleasure, and you know, I respect you massively as a trader. Yeah, thank you for—and I hope other people—well, they will, and they do already, so yeah. But make sure everyone drop a comment of your biggest takeaway from this episode; the links for Ads will be in the description below; make sure you hit him up for that—that video; we want to see his mate scratch the Ferrari first and then make the money after—message as well. I'm going to drop a comment that you want to see Ads on the day trading show because uh, he rejected me last time; I'm exposing him now; he rejected me last time, but now he sees the vision, I hope. But anyway, there'll be a day trading show um, playlist on screen; there'll be previous episodes; hit subscribe, and until next time, take care.