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DEBATE: Should Black Men Correct Black Women? Can they be forced to behave?

The Saint30:16

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Hey there. How are you?

Doing well. How you doing, family?

I'm well. You didn't went and changed outfits on us.

No, this is not the same outfit. I just put my hair down.

Okay. Okay, cool. So, you're on here to defend some grizzly bears.

I wouldn't say grizzly bears.

Okay. Talk to me. Oh, hold on. Uh my It's my It's on I gotta pause the YouTube. Sorry about that.

All right.

Okay. I I can hear good now.

Yeah. No, we we can hear you loud and clear. So, here's the thing. To say black women is one thing. You're referring to an amorphous group. When I was speaking, I was referencing specifically these overweight, unruly, ghetto, masculine black women who are the ones who are mostly the problem in the society and they're starting to wield too much influence. And the worst thing about having them pedestalized is that you have youth who look up to them and think that that's okay what they're doing. And then what's worse is that these are the ones who are engaging in these broken relationships that create the high levels of illegitimacy that we have in the African-American uh community. And there is no African-American community. So tell me what your position is on this.

Well, my position is um there's people that are unruly, disrespectful, there's people that are ratchet of all different races,

right?

Okay. So,

okay,

if we try to throw somebody under the bus for being ratchet and black when all other races have ratchetness,

if I tell you, if I walk into your home and I say your home is filthy, you're then going to say, "Well, my neighbor's home is filthy also." Yeah, that's fine. But we're not talking about your neighbor's house. We're talking about your house. So, why is it that you have a trouble addressing the fact that your house is filthy?

Are are you white?

No.

Are you Latino?

No.

Are you okay? Do you identify as black? Is like that your community?

Yeah, I'm I'm a black man.

Okay, cool. Why don't you talk about clean up your community instead of telling me all this other stuff that's going on everywhere else?

Well, actually, my issue is Okay, so that black woman that you clowning that you know that you going that you got into it with, she doesn't represent all black people, you know.

Correct. So I think

say that

you said what

did I ever say she represented all black people.

You never said that she represents all black people but you did emphasize the fact that she was black and then whenever you went to start talking about her behavior

Uhhuh.

you attribute it to a certain sector of black people.

So did I emphasize the fact that she was fat as much as I emphasized that she was black?

Probably. So probably I'd say I'd say so.

All right. So, why did the black part offend you then?

Um, it offended me because what does her being black have to do with anything? You know,

do you really believe that? You you really believe that her being a part of the African-American lower class does not inculturate her to being aggressive and unruly. That is not a function of culture in your mind.

I mean, we have it. It's it's in the culture for sure, but I'm just saying that other cultures as well.

Why do that keep looking into other people's windows instead of staying within your house as a man and getting your own house in order? Why do we keep looking into other people's windows?

I'm not necessarily looking into I'm not trying to look into another window. I'm saying that if one black person is doing something crazy or I don't think that we should say all black people are look the black.

No one said all black people. I even went as far as to state that I don't even like to call her a woman because she's behaving like an animal. And furthermore, I stated if the shoe were on the other foot and someone was verbally lashing black males who engage in foolish behavior like sagging their pants down, which I think is something that suggests you eat Skittles, or they're speaking with broken English or mumbling or failing to stand up straight or earn well. I wouldn't say, "Oh, don't talk about black men like that." that I would say yes, this is a real subsection of the black male population. They are in error and they should be shunned and corrected and that is the same that is true of this African-American female. But what the problem is that that subsection of the African-American female population is too large and it is upon the black man which is the leader of the black male and female to set it straight. Is that not reasonable?

I can see where you're coming from with that. I can see where you're coming from, but I I got a question for you. I I have a question for you.

Just ask that. Can I just ask you one quick one just to see if like if we're aligned at all?

Okay.

Is the black male the leader of the black female or are they equal?

I would say so. I would say yeah, the man is the head.

Okay, fair enough. All right. Talk to me. What was your question, sir?

Okay. So, let's say in that scenario that you were in, let's say the woman was Hispanic.

Okay.

and she freaked out on you and did the exact same thing that that black woman did?

Yeah.

In your title of the video, would you emphasize the fact that she was Hispanic?

Probably not. No.

See, that's what I'm saying.

Earlier on, I stated that the behavior that this woman displayed is symptomatic of something that is common in the AfricanAmerican subculture, which she's a part of. It is a function of culture. It is not her as an individual. She's not thinking of these dumb behaviors and acting them out. She is actually a little robot that is behaving in a way that's predictable of African-American females who are fat, ghetto, lowerass, unruly. And I'm going to give you an analog since you're so scared to talk about women. Let me put it on the male side to help you out.

I'm not scared to talk about ahead.

Since you're so gyocentric, let me help you out so you can feel better.

That's not That's not true, brother. Go ahead.

So you can you can feel like we're objective on the male side. If I saw an African-American male with his pants sagged down, would I emphasize that that's an African-American behavior? Absolutely. Because that is something that is very much so typical of the lower lowerass African-American male to sag their pants down below their butt and expose the underwear, which is a disgusting behavior. However, you can also observe this in whites, Latinos, Asians, and others. But it is not ever it is not as present because it is not a cultural imperative there. So to wrap in my points for you so you understand the sagging of the pants, you find it elsewhere, but it is very much so strong in the African-American culture and in fact comes from the African-American culture. probably the prison culture is a little bit deeper, but that's where it's strong in the African-American male culture on the side of the female to be ghetto and unruly and hyperaggressive, especially toward males. That is something that is very much so present in the African-American lowerass female culture. And it is far more present in present in the African-American female lowerass culture than it is in any other lowerass female of any other racial or ethnic category. And if you can't acknowledge that, you sir are either blind or a liar.

I'm going say this. Um I can only speak from my own experience. And uh

you don't read books. You you can't read a book and speak from the research of a scholar. You can only speak from your own experience.

I I can I can but uh I'm speaking just from my experience right now.

Okay.

I have is I have just as many issues with every other race of women than I as I do with black women. Actually, whenever I interact with black women, I have a a a good experience with most black women.

Actually, I have I have a better I I have a more pleasant experience with black women than any other type of woman.

So when So when So whenever a guy like you, a guy like Minister Jap, a guy like Tommy Soayor, a guy fresh and fit, when y'all get up here and y'all bash black women,

you're you're lying now. Now you're lying. Now let me help you out real quick. Let me help you out.

Let me finish. Let me finish my point. Let me finish my point. I let you I'll let you talk and talk. Let you talk and talk. I just want to finish my finish what I was saying. So that's why whenever I see a guy like you or a guy that's, you know, emphasizes the bad behavior of black women. That's why when I see that, I just see it as a personal thing. I think maybe something maybe happened to you when you were growing up where black women were Thank you for your point. Didn't like what you how they treated.

Thank you for your point. Now you're now you're trying your best to to make personal attacks and you sound stupid. And I'll tell you why you sound stupid. Number one, I went to a high school that was basically black and Latino and I was one of the most popular guys there. I got voted Mr. uh irresistible, best smile, best dress. You must imagine that it's black women who are supporting me. Black women have favored me. In fact, all women have favored me. I've had a very fortunate life on the side of females. So that argument is just completely stupid. It doesn't even seem to add up, my boy. So that's number one. Number two, part of the reason you're on this big black hype is because you're very fair. And this is very common. And let me just so you can be aware because you're clearly not aware. When you look at the most radical black leaders, like look at Malcolm X. He's very pale, damn near white, and was even redhead to boot. You look at Minister Lewis Farrakhan. He's in one of the most extreme organizations that says the white man is the devil. But you look at his skin complexion, he damn near is a white man and his hair look like it's permed out. But that's how it is naturally. So a guy like you being very pale, kind of like Barack Obama, you get the dreads make you look more African and more black and then you get hyped up on all these black issues. And I understand you're reacting to material circumstances. Maybe some people question your blackness. You want to feel more black, so you get all hyper hyper pro black. I get that. I totally understand. We've observed this through history. That's why I just identified for you the most radical pro black people. The ones who said, you know, the ballot or the bullet. Uh, you know, that was Malcolm X, the light-skinned guy. The one who's in the organization that says white people are the devil. That's Farrakhan, the light-skinned guy. So, that's why you're so hyped up on blackness. Number one, so so you can understand yourself because I see there's a lack there. Secondly, with regards to the folks that you named, our experiences are radically different. Uh, number one, I don't think anyone would identify my life experiences with Fresh and F. I don't even think Fresh and Fit would identify their experiences with women to be similar to mine. Black women have favored me. It's just a matter of fact. And then here's the third point for you, my dear boy. When you mention Minister Jap, you listen to his show, it's radically different. Like, he often discusses black women. You I don't know if you've been following my work. I wouldn't be surprised if you follow it obsessively because a lot of you haters do. But you've heard me many times say, "I don't want to bash black women because it's done too much and too often." And in fact, you'll even if you are really getting schooled in this ism, which you you need it, I see. I even have a video called Why do some women hate men? And it goes through the legitimate reasons that women of any color have to hate men. They've had real experiences. It doesn't come out of thin air. So, I'm a reasonable, objective person. what you're doing is you have this soggy uh mentality where you're you don't want to acknowledge any truth. You're one of those folks who basically are lying. So, for example, if we point out the fact that 70% of black families are illegitimate, you have these black women who are, you know, opening up their legs damn near indiscriminately and then they carry the baby to term. That's unique to the African-American female. They're fucking up. And then secondly, you look at the highest rates of of meaning the number one killer of black people are black women. And in some localities like New York, there are more black babies killed than born. And that is black women making that decision because it's my body, my choice. So there is much wrong with the black female. But I don't just say this. I actually am organizing things to actually bring them out of this darkness. But we cannot pretend as though they're not in a darkness. And that's the problem with uh cats like you uh who are lying and pretending as though all is well with a black woman when much is not well.

Okay. Yeah, you addressed a lot. Um but no, my my complexion has nothing to do

with how I see black people. Yeah. Why you cutting me off? I didn't cut you off. I'm trying.

Be real with me. Be real with me, brother. Brother, be real. You being light-skinned, you don't think that's made you a little more pro black than the other folks? Come on, man. You like my my The thing I pointed out about the radical black leaders all being very pale. Not light-skinned, but pale like you. You That's coincidental.

Well, I'm not I wouldn't I wouldn't consider myself radical at all. I just I'm I'm speaking from experience. This is how I really feel.

Is experience what allows you to speak accurately about the world or is it data?

Well, it's both. It's both. A combination of the two.

Bro, you arrogant, man. You come on here with no real information and you have the audacity to to talk to me. Like, I find that to be very arrogant. I get the sense that you have very limited life experience and and work in this situation. I find that to be very arrogant.

I like your work. I like what you do. I respect you. I think you're a cool guy, you know, but when it comes to your your issue, what your opinion about the black community, I just simply disagree, man. But I hope you you know, everything's cool with your show. I appreciate you on

Adam. This is not a show.

Well, you you are an actor, sir. You are an actor. This is an act. And you know, you got your show,

Adam. Everything else you see is a show. This is the one thing that's not a show. So, number one, I know that you are not a sincere person because you keep lying and saying, bashing black women. That's not true at all. In fact, if you actually watch the work, you'll see that I've brought black women on to speak one-on-one. Tiana was one such woman. Former uh beauty queen, a consultant here in the Las Vegas area, came on, had her one-on-one, had a good conversation with her. Uh further, if you actually observe my my life work, you dig? things I've done in real life, you'll see that, you know, my first job out of uh university was in Baltimore, Maryland, which is an overwhelmingly black city if you didn't know, and I taught 150 students and 149 of them were black. It was one Latina. 149 were black. You heard me? So, the impact that I've had on black people, I I highly doubt that yours compares because I get the sense that you're just a talker. Now, the reason I have so many perspectives on black people is because unlike someone like you who's inexperienced and arrogant, I've lived in so many places, you find significant pockets of black people who are largely in poverty, and I was there doing the work, founding nonprofits. My name's on paper, you dig? So, here's the thing. Guys like you, tell me this. What have you done? What have you done for these black people that you talk about?

I mean, I ain't really done nothing for black people.

Repeat that one more time. Repeat that one more time. Repeat that one more time.

Black people. What have you done for black people?

You've done nothing for black people. That's the problem.

You taught a class that's not doing nothing for black people.

Whoa. Hold on one second. Young man, let me tell you. So, you telling me if I teach uh 150 sixth graders for two years, I haven't done anything for black people. I just want to get a yes or no. And we gonna keep going. Yes or no? Is that something for black people?

You were a teacher. You was a teacher. Not specifically for black people, but go ahead.

No, actually I said I had 150 students. 149 were black.

Okay. Hey, you was a teacher for black people. Okay, good for you.

All right, cool. And then secondly, I created I found a nonprofit for black boys at no cost.

Oh, well, we ain't seen

No, no, actually, it was called Five Fingers that the paperwork is there. There's also articles written about it if you read.

Does that count?

Okay, good for you, bro.

Okay, cool.

Congratulations. I I also ran a nonprofit that gave wraparound services exclusively to black families. Psychological services, uh, college planning, financial aid for college students, financial aid for the families. We paid bills, uh, rental assistance, all that good stuff, therapy, all that good stuff. Does that count?

Hey, go ahead. Keep going, brother.

And I can't keep here Here's the thing, though. You're such a dishonest person that when you talk to someone who actually has served black people um you you you have this

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No, sit down and listen right now because you need to be humble. When you talk to a man,

I'm gone, bro. It was nice talking to you though, family.

Look at him running. Look at him running because he's done nothing. Big ass big mouth little boy. He's done nothing. And then when he talks to someone who's actually done something for black people, then he doesn't want to acknowledge it because he's a big mouth. You're a light-skinned little guy with identity issues and that's why you're so pro black people.

Black people never really accept.

Trevor said Marquette is undefeated, man.

Easy work that last guy. And it's funny, too, cuz I want you guys to notice the guys who talk about all this love for black people. You say, "What have you done for black people?" Donut. They've done nothing for black people. And the worst part, if he really cared about black people, when I was telling him what I've done for black people, he'd sincerely be like, damn, bro, that's what's up. Like, that's fire, man. Like, that's keep keep that going. Like, oh, but no, instead it was just sarcasm. Cuz what he did not want to hear is that I've actually delivered on my word.

Rockstar Tony said it's sickening. He can't even admit he's wrong, and he's taking everything personal. He looks 21 plus to he's a child.

Yeah, I mean, he has no humility. That's the worst part. errors back and said he's out here repping black people. And when asked what he's done for black people, he actually replied with, "No, I haven't really done anything for black people." Right.

We're getting on those today.

Oh, indeed. I got my workout in them today. Pull-ups and everything.

Do you want to see about the second video?

Oh, the the second one is just me um trying to execute my uh my strategy on her. try to get her out under those cameras so that they could uh they could send that security to take her fat ass down

back and said that's what hurt him when you asked what have you done for black people

right right the funny thing too is it it it turned him up a little bit when I said uh hey have you noticed the most radical black leaders are always like the the pale ones I think that turned him up a little bit that that hit home

jabres is back and said most men are only pro black to get black women it's a mating dance for You know, and it it's also symptomatic of not being a man. A man can is brave enough to tell you something you don't want to hear if it must be said. And more importantly, a man can deal with the truth even when it's harsh. It's a woman who can't deal with it. You know, she might react catty or petty to things she doesn't want to hear, but we have to be able to swallow that hard pill. And that boy was Oh, he was sweet. And the worst thing about it is you could tell like he's like a real internet. Like, yeah, I listen to all of you guys. Minister Jeff, fresh and fed. I listen to all of them and I hate you guys.

Said, "Peace to the saints." Love how he went on full on SJW in the end. Stop bashing black women. He tried to die on that high hill. Saint, you are doing God's work. Tuition.

Peace to the saints. And the great thing about it, too, is that there are a lot of black women who follow me, and it's the real ones who can accept direction. the ones who want a real man, the kind of guy he is. And I didn't want to bust him out because it wasn't really on topic, but you could see he was sitting in this raggedy ass little apartment. He looked like he probably what, like in his late 20s?

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, he look like he in his late 20s. He's sitting in a raggedy ass like dark ass room. Um, so he's not doing well for himself. So like these are the kind of guys who they're defending the lower class women that are accessible to them. and what he was saying like you keep saying all black people like that's literally the opposite of what I said and so he's relying on lies he's trying to mischaracterize what I said when I clearly said no there are black women who are respectable honest you know are open to discussion and accept leadership and then there are these ghetto gaggers who are overweight and unruly and you know stink

Jay Kinsey is back. I said, "I'm taking heed to your advice." Thank you. Where can I get the conference 2 footage? I did post that in the chat and you put the Marquetism link,

too. Yes.

Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.

Mitchell said, "You won't regret it." See,

shout out to Mitchell. And the funny thing, too, is that, you know, you got these like that little uh the little Drake guy who was just on here. Like, these guys are an embarrassment. And these are the reason that you'll never see, not never, but if these guys are the ones who are allowed to stand, then you won't see progress in the black or African-American culture, shall we say. And Jabrezy was right to say that, you know, you'll notice when you get outside of America that the pro black movement isn't a real thing. And let me tell you guys some jokes. Consider Dr. Umar Johnson, who claims to be a pan-Africanist. Pan-Africanist. Okay? He follows the honorable Marcus Garvey. Well, Garvey had a back to Africa movement, but he never stepped foot in Africa. And shout out to Garvey. I'm a big fan of Garvey. He's very intelligent. He had some great points. Um, but when you look at a a Dr. Umar Johnson, it's like, if you don't like these white folks, man, and you so pan-Africanism, why don't you just move to Africa and shut up? Just move to Africa where there's all black folks in whatever nation you want to go to. I recommend Zimbabwe if you want it to be all black and just live there and live out your life in peace. Well, really, they won't be able to make a buck there. You see, they need the capitalist system. They need the system that the white folks have created here. And also, they need something to complain about so that they can make a buck off of your misery.

Here is back again. I've lost track. He's going in. He said at the end he said, "You went to Berkeley, bro. Do you even know how many people are trying to get into Cal? He wasn't happy. Lol."

That's right. And when you find these people who are low intelligence and low achievement, they look at your achievements and they try to flip the world upside down. So they take things that are marked with esteem and they try to drag it through the dirt. It's like this this chain for example. Like I'm looking at it and I'm seeing I'm seeing these diamonds dancing, right? It's like they would say, "Oh, like you're you're wearing diamonds." Like that's so flashy and hotty and like they try to make it seem like a bad thing when it's really like you're really you're not mad cuz I'm wearing diamonds. You're mad because I'm wearing a year's worth of your salary around my neck and it doesn't mean anything to me. You heard me? That's what you're really mad about. So they take something that's shiny and pretty and they try to put dirt on it. So, he takes an elite degree and tries to say that it's a bad thing, which is really foolish. And it also lets us all know that he's a fan. He wouldn't know where I went to university because I didn't mention it. He's a fan. So, he's clearly Googled me and knows my credentials and still has the audacity to be arrogant enough to come on here as basically an immature person who's accomplished nothing and put forward his opinion as though it matters.

Jay Kenzie is a man of his word. He just bought conference two footage.

He's a real one. And I think that's and and a lot of us are, you dig? Like when we're talking here on the live stream, we're talking to the public. You heard I mean, we ain't talking to all saints, you know? It's it's only a couple of us. And I'm going have to get off the stream soon because this camera that's up close the diamonds is blind.

Intuition. Lee said, "You have the patience of a saint. He has no idea what it takes to teach a class. 49 black kids in Baltimore."

In Baltimore.

Free Mr. Clark. Peace to the saint,

bro. in Baltimore. He don't know nothing about it. And the funny thing too is, you know, he's a dirt bag when he says, "Oh, you were a teacher." Bro, do you realize I spend more time with these kids than their parents? Like, you are a real fool. Sixth grade, that's elementary education. That means I spend at least five hours a day oneonone with these kids. Like, I'm there and they're there in the same room for five hours. That's more than their parents. Oh, and he don't respect that. That's because he's a goddamn liar. His only goal was to try to deride me, which obviously he's not able to do. He doesn't have the intelligence to do that. And you know, I'm bulletproof.

On PayPal, we have Mitchell said, "Could you touch on the difference between race and culture? It seems that they are often intertwined."

Race is a biological reality typically defined from the anthropological perspective of there being three major racial categories. Negroid, caucasoid, mongaloid, i.e. black, white, Asian. Every other subgroup is kind of in between ones. So there's a triangulation and everything else is in between. Like for example, to be Latino or Mexican, that is not a racial category. That is an ethnic category. Ethnicity comes with folkways, moays, religion, language, culture, all these things. And you know, when you're like say Latino, for example, or Indian, you're not fitting into one of the primary racial categories. You're in between one of the categories. So if there's a triangle and say we have black here and white here. Um if you're Indian, maybe you're in between that. Or if you're Latino, maybe you're in between that, which is to say you're a mix of races. But there's only three pure racial categories, which are Mongaloid, caucasoid, negroid, white, black, Asian. And they have very specific racial features which generally come down to bone structure. It comes down to pigmentation, hair texture and other things that are present uh phenotypically speaking that define the racial categories. Culture is that which humans create. Uh let's say race is that which maybe God created or that which is biological. It is not changeable. Culture can be changed. For example, you might be racially black or in the negroid category, but if you grow up in South Korea, culturally you will be Korean. If you were white and you grow up in, you know, Westside Denver Lane in LA in a blood neighborhood, culturally you will be African-American. So culture is the way we speak. It's the language. It's the dialect. It's the the religion, the manners, all of those things. Culture can be learned and unlearned. can be taught. It can be reformed. It can be manipulated. And what we're in the process of doing right now is reforming global culture within the assassin. And culture connected to ethnicity is starting to break down. For example, you know, sagging your pants below your back, below your butt, that used to be a black thing. It's bleeding into other cultures. um certain like tastes in uh in terms of like male female uh relations like full lips, big butts that used to be more so among the Latinos and the blacks is bleeding into other cultures. And so now in this modern world where culture can be transmitted through social media and tweets rapidly, we're finding that whereas like if you grew up in my neighborhood and I say, "Uh, what's bracking?" You might say, "Ain't nothing blood. I'm bicking back boing on the bing bing." within my neighborhood. We know exactly what you meant. I said, "How are you?" And you responded, "I'm good. I'm smoking a cigarette." But you'd have to grow up in my neighborhood to really be able to decode the slanguistics. Now, being that music is moved around the world, uh, hip-hop culture, uh, and different regional cultures are being dispersed. Now, we all understand what that means. And so, culture is breaking down and it's being commercialized, right? So I say that to say um we have to take hold of culture and drive it strategically less everyone ends up wanting to mimic uh Kim Kardashian and Kanye West which are very low people.

Mr. Deal said ninth level intellect.

You dig.

Dante said peace to the saints. We'll never advance if we can't accept truth. Great work saints.

Real talk

man came in and said the Will Smith came out of him in the end when he said stop b >> stop bashing our women. Stop bashing our women.

He said the way Will Smith said, "Keep my wife's name out your mouth."

Right. He like wanted to cry about it. Little Drake ass motherfucker.

I'm caught up.

He was sensitive. It's weird, too, cuz he seems to like listen to all the people that he hates. Silly little fella. Uh he's going to be broke and unproductive, which is good. I'm happy. And I just hope that he doesn't procreate. That's the unfortunate thing. What can you do, Saints? It has been a pleasure. I'll give you some time to send in your last thoughts, questions, comments as we wind down. Donovan said, "That's a major slang." Yeah. I mean, in a real way.

Annie sent $50. Keep this light up for the algorithm. Tuition for the one and only piece of saints. Appreciate it. Baller alert.

Rachel came back on PayPal said thank you. Peace to the saints.

Peace to the saints. Well saints, it has been uh truly a pleasure to have this time to fellowship with you. And let us end this with our cultural traditions. The creed of the assassin. Repeat after me with full conviction knowing this is true of you. The creed of the assassin. I am going to be who I truly am because I am remarkable and I'm going to strive every moment to show the greatest part of who I am. Until next time, peace to the saints.

Before we end, Robin came in and she said, "Keep doing what you're doing."

I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Peace of the