The Collapse of Patrick Bet-David

The internet has made it easier than ever to become rich by pretending to be something you're not. All you need is a camera, a story people want to believe in, and enough confidence to sell it. And for a long time, that's exactly what Patrick Bet David did. On the surface, his story is genuinely compelling. An immigrant who fled Iran as a kid, rebuilt his life from nothing, and turned himself into a multi-millionaire media figure. The kind of rags to riches arc that makes people want to listen to everything you say. But the more that people listened, the more questions started to emerge. And now the mask is slipping.

"Really is something from a Hollywood script. You've gone from poverty to enormous wealth, enormous influence. You interview presidents, billionaires. You're close to being a billionaire yourself. What are you chasing now? What are you chasing now that money can't buy?"

"Great question. So for us, I have four kids. I love America. And you know when you read the stories of Kennedys or Bush's these big families that are built political dynasties both of them will say go make your money take care of your wife and kids and then give back to the country through charity through uh uh government politics or you know in a different form you want to give to them through you know uh media or other other sorts. For me, I chose a media."

And for a long time, the fact that he'd made something from nothing created the assumption that he must be an authoritative voice. And after reaching a combined 9 million plus subscribers across his two YouTube channels, PBD was on the fast track to mainstream acceptance, appearing online as a talking head about controversial issues as he pivoted deeper into the right-wing media space. So, at least the answer he gave is the life he's living. Okay? You don't have to agree with it, but at least the answer he gave. And by the way, if your audience wants to know, he's kind of like, look, if he's providing, if he's taking care of you, let the man do whatever he wants to do. In other paraphrasing what he said, but that's kind of what the guy was talking about. Uh, yeah. I mean, look, he is he is telling you the way he's living his life. So, you don't want to you don't like it, debate it, argue it, give your own argument, but at least he's he's congruent and aligned.

However, as his status continued to grow, more and more people became a little wary of what they were seeing and hearing. In the end, it might be his undoing because as people dig into both his past, present, and plans for the future. What began as a vague feeling of distrust has grown into a very real sense that we're watching a con man at work. One who will do anything to further his dreams of cementing generational wealth and power, no matter what the cost. Patrick David. He's one of these guys that I've seen like, you know, he's taken over the comment the political commentary space with his show. He's a smart guy, but I've always been a little bit weary of him. Why? I'll tell you why. He's always he reminds me of a lot of scammers online because more than trying to gain a viewership for his content, he's always upselling some that always seem a little sketchy. And as his psychophantic ways become a matter of public record, it feels like PBD is getting cooked from all angles. With both his willingness to do anything for cash and his purchasable political approval coming under severe scrutiny as of late.

"You know, I have a local I have a local doctor I want you to go see. He specializes in TDS and I think you would work very well with him. Over a 6-month period, he'll be able to get rid of your TDS. I have a guy who's a psychologist and he deals with cult members and I think it'll do well with you guys who can't get out of the Trump cult."

"I asked you I I gave you an opportunity in front of the audience to criticize Trump on Iran. You can't do it."

So, let's dive into why PBD's empire is crumbling. But first, a little background. Although he may be an example of the American dream, Patrick BDavid wasn't born on American shores. When he was just a kid, his family fled Iran during the revolution. After spending time in a German refugee camp, he moved to the States and had what he deemed to be a very difficult upbringing. "I'm a guy that grew up with gangsters," he once told the Spectator. "I come from the hood. I come from the streets. I come from the army. I'm around whites, blacks, Hispanics who come from not a lot of money. So that's who I relate to. That's my background. My mother's side, they were all communists. My dad's side, they were all imperialists." From being a bodyguard for a drug dealer serving in an airborne infantry, Patrick struggled to find his way for much of his early adulthood. However, he believed it all contributed to his unique outlook, and he knew he wanted financial freedom. Eventually, he found his way into the hallowed halls of Morgan Stanley, working as a financial advisor after joining the company just one day prior to the 9/11 attacks. This introduction to the world of money and high-stakes deals would be followed by a stint at Transamerica before he reached his goal of being his own boss. This entrepreneurial drive led to the founding of his PHP firm, a hugely successful health insurance enterprise that expanded to thousands of agents operating under the motto "People Helping People."

"THE CHAMP IS HERE. THE CHAMP is here. THE CHAMP IS HERE. THE CHAMP IS HERE. ONE COMPANY DARES to dream bigger and do the impossible."

"One company pushes the limits of the status quo."

"Wow. We got it all, guys. We got people smoking cigars."

"They have the top compensation plan."

"With the top compensation package in the marketplace for entrepreneurial agency builders, PHP is ushering a new era of multicultural and diverse agents." This business has courted plenty of controversy since he became a public figure and will be detailing its role in the precarious position that he's in right now. That aside, it was a chess move from Patrick financially, if not ethically. And today, he estimates that Lion Holdings, the parent company of his businesses, is worth more than $500 million.

If you're not familiar with PBD, you're probably wondering exactly how this guy became a viral sensation worthy of a video like this rather than just another faceless businessman. Well, the answer to that comes down to a 2015 video known as "The Life of an Entrepreneur in 90 Seconds."

"Most people only pay attention to the final product of a successful entrepreneur. They say things like, 'I can never be like them or they got lucky.' What most don't see is what they've overcome. All the struggles, the daily rejections, the heartaches, the betrayals, the rumors, the criticism, the empty bank account, and all those lonely nights while trying to make their vision a reality. You see, the only difference between the one who quits and the one who doesn't is that they showed up every day. They worked hard every day. They hustled every day. They learned from a proven mentor every day. They improved every day. They did all this even though they felt like quitting every day and eventually they became who they are today."

After this video accumulated millions of views online, Patrick began posting more regularly. Basically acting as though his life has been a masterclass in marketing and building himself as a staggering success that you should all take cues from.

"Number one product in the world you're selling people. You'll have a major edge over your competitors. I'm making very good money, Ken, but not a single guy in my office is making $100,000 a year income. And finally, I'm like, man, I want to be known as a leader amongst leaders."

From how to ask for a raise and how to create a reputation of giving back, his videos gradually gathered steam over the years. And in 2020, Valuetainment expanded with the launch of the PBD Podcast. Around the same time, the pandemic hit, and Patrick basically built himself as a critic of the mandates and their effect on business.

"90% of the time, we're going to be okay. This is not worse than Ebola. It's not worse than MERS. It's not worse than Zika. It's not worse than SARS. Guess what? We're going to be all right. Market's going to recover. I know they need a story. There's a re-election year. There's a lot of panic. They don't want Trump to get reelected. They want another candidate to come in. Media doesn't want certain things. They're not happy with Trump. I fully get all that stuff."

The next step in his plan was the release of his business strategy book, "Your Next Five Moves," a publication which went on to become a bestseller. Built by his supporters as an innovative thinker, Patrick kept dispensing wisdom and engaging in conversations with a wide array of people.

"The only bird that dares to attack an eagle is a crow. But the eagle never fights back. Here's why. The crow is the only bird bold enough to sit on the eagle's back and peck its neck. Relentless and annoying. But the eagle stays calm. The eagle doesn't flap, doesn't fight, doesn't waste energy. It does one thing. It rises. The higher the eagle soars, the thinner the air becomes. The crow, it can't handle that altitude. Eventually, the crow gasps, loses strength, and falls off. Not because the eagle attacked, but because the eagle ascended. Let the crows talk. Let them peck. You don't have to respond. Just keep going higher. It can't follow you forever. Your growth will suffocate their noise. So, don't engage, elevate."

Cited as an example of a true entrepreneur, he counted the likes of Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson, author Robert Greene, billionaires Ray Dalio and Mark Cuban, and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak among his guests and friends. But it was obvious that he was always striving for more connections when he appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast and literally showed up with expensive gifts to get in his good graces.

"So, you're a Jimi Hendrix guy, right? I think you're a Jimi Hendrix guy. Perfect. I got this. I We looked up to see what we can do with Jimi Hendrix. Jimi Hendrix did a month-long did a special Jimi Hendrix pen that while you're sitting here writing stuff, I know you're probably not a big guy that you care about having a fancy pen or not, but we got you the special uh limited edition uh Mont Blanc pen with Jimi Hendrix, I hope you like it. Okay, so that's one. Two, I think when I think about personalities that kind of push the envelope a little bit, presidents in the past that were anti-establishment people that pushed the envelope, one of the names you think about, you think about a guy named Andrew Jackson."

"Okay. I I this took me a minute to find this, but this is a letter written by Andrew Jackson, president signed at the bottom."

"Wow."

"With COA, and he is known as the first ever anti-establishment president, minus the founding fathers. So, I hope you like this. This represents that aspect of you."

This was painful for people to see, but it clearly worked. As he went on to become a repeat guest. Amid all this growth in the media sector, PBD remained an active part of PHP. And in 2022, he sold the company to Integrity Marketing Group for over $300 million. Once again, Patrick had another win on his hands that he could use to bolster his image as a business mastermind. The only problem was that because he was so visible, people went digging, leading to further scrutiny of the day-to-day operations of the company that enabled Patrick to make his fortune and that he remains CEO of to this day. And when people took a look, they really didn't like what they saw, leading them to change the narrative around PBD from an aspirational figure to a shameless scammer. Let's take a look inside and see what everyone found so alarming about PHP's business practices.

For starters, it operates through multi-level marketing, a term synonymous with the shady world of pyramid schemes. In short, this is a structure in which the profit all goes to the early recruiters, leaving less and less revenue for those at the bottom until whatever's left is basically scraps. PHP follows this trademark framework almost to the letter with agents at the bottom of the hierarchy earning about 30% to 40% of the commission on each sale. On paper, the numbers look impressive. Over 60,000 families served. But when you factor in that they've had more than 50,000 agents over the last 16 years, that works out to roughly 12 sales per agent. That's not a thriving salesforce. That's a revolving door. And here's where it gets darker. The majority of PHP's agents are ethnic minorities, people from communities that have historically been shut off of wealth-building opportunities and are therefore more likely to jump at what appears to be a legitimate path to financial freedom. So maybe it was just a coincidence. Or as many believe, Patrick has deliberately targeted these communities because they're easier to recruit into a system that was never designed to make them rich. It was designed to make him rich. And the kicker is that there's a $200 signup fee just to get in the door. So before a single policy is sold, PHP has already taken money from the people it claims to be helping. What makes this worse is that Patrick didn't even try to hide it. He admitted targeting this demographic as a deliberate business strategy.

"The biggest generation is boomers, but millennials are big. Why are we not targeting this interesting? So maybe the insurance industry was dying cuz their agents were going lower. They went from having a half a million agents to like 200,000 agents. People were leaving the industry. So I said, 'Perfect. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to bring young girls and I'm going to target minorities. Minorities kind of like myself. So, Hispanics, African-Americans, and then we'll compete in a marketplace from an angle where if I go to a house, if I'm selling you and your wife, your wife may not like me. She's done. She's not going to buy. You and I may hit it off, but she may be like, 'Babe, I don't trust this guy.' When she walks over to the bathroom, I need to text you or go over there. But if a girl comes to your house to sell, she's going to be like, 'Oh, I understand her.' Because she's a wife like she's a mom like me, and you're going to want to buy from a woman maybe more than you're going to want to buy from a man. So, we went that angle and then the average agent today is a 34-year-old Hispanic female in the company. 51% of our company are women. 54% are Hispanic. We're the largest percentage of that in a marketplace."

It's a bad, exploitative look on the surface, but it gets even more villainous when you realize PBD actively encourages his agents to recruit their own family and friends, essentially turning their closest relationships into a sales funnel for his benefit. "Send 20 messages on Facebook now. Send 30 messages on Facebook now before you go to sleep. Ask them, 'What are you doing this Saturday? How are things?' A simple message, 'How you doing?' But you got to do it now. And for those of you guys that do that and you stay like that for a month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months, 12 months, a year, 2 years, 3 years, it's inevitable for you to become financially free. Truly, it's inevitable."

And in terms of revenue, that's another sore spot. While PBD built his entire brand on empowerment and the promise of financial freedom, the numbers inside his own company, PHP, tell a completely different story. Over 95% of their 50,000-plus agents earn less than the average US annual income. Nearly half, around 45%, earn less than $400 in a year. Not a month, a year. $400. That's it.

"But I'm going to tell you right now, all of this stuff is the beginning of the stories you'll hear about $500,000 a month, a million a month, a million and a half a month, $2 million a month income because that's the direction we're going as a company."

These figures are damning, but Patrick generally deflects from them. When pressed on it, PBD will cherry-pick stories about agents who supposedly became millionaires after joining PHP rather than discussing the broader issue at hand.

"And I remember when I first met George when we all he always had an Infiniti, you know, and he always had these cars. He's driving a 488, got an Audi for himself, got one for his dad. He's made all these different investments. You got Jason driving around in a red Aston Martin. Beautiful, gorgeous Aston Martin. You see him going all over the place. You're seeing Gaitan had a Ferrari California. He got rid of that. Then he buys the new Tesla with the what do you call it? The doors that come to the side for family cuz they got kids now. They keep making babies. And then he ends up buying a Lamborghini, a blue one. Gorgeous. I barely fit in this Huracan. Then you hear Vargas buys a yellow Lamborghini, brand new 2019 2020. So let me get right to it. When you first come on board, the levels that we have start at the level trainee. A trainee is somebody that get started with us that's at 30%. To become an associate, you need to bring on board three business partners, three policies, $3,000. Get licensed, you become an associate. To become an FA, you need to do 15 policies, 15 recruits, $15,000 of production. Within 90 days, you become an FA. To become a director, you need 30 recruits, 30 up, $60,000. You need six new licensed agents."

These tales of triumph pale in comparison to the whole collection of firsthand accounts of how being on PHP's books actually plays out and the hidden clauses that'll leave you trapped in red tape. "Anyone who looked remotely into him knows he's a fraudulent piece of [expletive]. My dumbass coworker got caught up in one of his businesses, possibly former. I think he sold it. I mostly know this grifter as the pyramid scheme guy, and I'm going to rant about this [expletive] because it actually triggers me. They tell you that you can borrow against your investment, and your investment will continue to grow. But again, you still have to pay high fees, and now you have to pay interest on that loan, eating into your investment further. Furthermore, you're still paying for their shitty overpriced permanent life insurance that gets progressively more and more expensive every year and can get into thousands or more per month as you're older and older. There's even a point where your investment will start to get cannibalized by your insurance costs as your premiums stay the same. So, they use your investment to cover the rest, which can quickly cause your invested money to hit zero if you're not paying attention. There are some policies that say if you have a lapse in payment, you forfeit your life insurance payout. This happens around the time you're 70 to 80. You know, the time you need it the most. Completely over almost anyone that uses this as a retirement strategy."

On top of the many Reddit posts that detail harrowing experiences with PHP, YouTuber Always Marco spoke to a series of people who'd been ensnared by the company with one former agent revealing how he was treated for trying to leave.

"I I remember that he he was trying to get me back in and I'd said no. I remember that I was getting constant DMs on social media on everything. Just people saying like, 'Ah, you're a quitter. You're not going to amount to anything.' I remember Patrick one time told me in my face. He's like, 'You are not going to be anything besides the most you're going to achieve in your life is going to be a manager at a Nissan.' Something along those lines. That's the most, right? Because you you are not going to be anything outside of that. You are going to be a manager at a Nissan. That's to to some people that's good enough. But I mean, that's how I look at you. And I remember that. I looked at him, I was like, I'm gonna be much more than that, right? Like, you're not going to talk to me like this. And that's when I think towards the end, I started being this like this going rogue."

And this comes from a guy who routinely claims that he hates bullies.

"What is the profile of a bully? The profile of a bully is he finds targets. And what does a bully find? Weak targets. Targets that he's not afraid of. Targets that back down. Targets that don't come back at you. Right?"

Given all the intel that came out about the business, it's no surprise that the likes of Coffeezilla have stayed on his neck about it.

"People that want to use it to make millions, but quite frankly, we have a lot of people that do it to want to make $500 a month, $1,000 a month, $2,000 a month."

"I think that's completely So, respectfully, I think that is absurd. The reason people get involved is not with an entire company to go sell stuff is not they don't you don't become a part-time salesman to make $500 a year."

"And that's where we disagree. And that's where we disagree. It's not hyped up. And they think because people tell them that part-time you're going to make a thousand, two thousand, three thousand they think part-time you're going to make $60,000 a year. It's so much better. They flock and they realize they've been misled."

"If you would be willing to be reasonable with me, I can have a discourse with you. But you're not. You cannot sit here."

"I'm asking you a question. You're a smart guy. Do you actually think a person who doesn't sell one home a year that's the real estate industry's fault?" He's even been taken to task for it in recent debates where it was obvious that he was rattled by the accusations.

"Um I know that you're Valuetainment, right? You run a YouTube podcast. You also run PHP agency, right?"

"Yep."

"Yes. Um and you sell life insurance policies, right?"

"Life insurance and annuities."

"Yes. Um I read an article by the Daily Beast which argued that you make more money from recruitment fees to get people to work for you than you make money from selling those policies. Capitalism is when you provide a service and sell the labor of yourself or the person who works for you in return for money. But you're not really doing that, right? You're selling being part of the company through recruitment fees. I'm not sure that's capitalism."

"How familiar are you with the insurance industry?"

"Here's the first great deflection. Patrick does something every MLM I've ever seen does. What do you know about the insurance industry? Never mind the fact that whatever product an MLM is selling is just the disguise of that MLM deviates the conversation away from the structure of the MLM, which is inherently fraudulent. The endless chain is inherently fraudulent. It's what a pyramid scheme and a Ponzi scheme both rely upon, the endless chain. Instead, he goes, 'What do you know about the insurance industry?' Well, Patrick, I'm sorry to tell you, you're not in the insurance industry. You're in the multi-level marketing industry, and you use insurance as your disguise. Herbalife would say, 'Oh, we're in the supplement health industry.' But they're not. Monae, they're in the skincare, hair care industry, but they're not. They're just using those products as their disguise for what the real money maker is, which is the endless chain."

Since then, it's even come to light that the company is loathed by others in the industry, suggesting that how they move is basically an open secret. "I work in insurance. Me and my co-workers have nothing good to say about these grifters." Even if his business dealings at PHP clearly worked out for him, it's not a matter that he's prone to giving a straight answer on.

"Multi-level marketing. Who do you think about? What companies do you think?"

"Amway."

"Okay. Amway is a $12 billion company. So in MLM there is unilevel, there is binary, there is matrix."

"Okay."

And over time, it's permanently altered how people saw not only him, but his rags-to-riches story. At one stage, Patrick bragged on X about becoming a millionaire by working 80 hours a week. But rather than being celebrated, he was quickly hit with a community note, calling him out for the questionable tactics that led to his wealth. In response, Patrick responded by tagging Elon Musk and whining that the note was a personal attack meant to damage his public image, stemming from his political beliefs. "The note is true. You are a scammer and you deserve to be shamed for destroying people's lives. And the community note provides important context that you're a piece of [expletive] masquerading as a hardworking immigrant."

When Patrick couldn't defend himself on X, he retreated to his own podcast. He ran back to his podcast to cry about it to the only audience still willing to listen. He explains how in the '70s, one of the things that happened in the '70s and '80s is the media, every time you would see somebody become a billionaire, everybody would say he made his billions by hurting someone. "I have two quick points. This thing really bothers me, this community. Why does it bother me? I didn't work for PHP. I worked in the insurance industry. And if there's anybody that would know about being the black sheep of the life insurance industry, it's this guy that worked in the life settlement board. How many life settlement companies went out of business? You said you went down to Waco, Texas one time, Life Partners out of the I would call people. People don't know what I do. It's basically the exact opposite of life insurance. I buy existing life insurance policies for people and I give them cash. Very interesting business model. Very lucrative if you can make your way in this world. But when I met PBD in the gym at an ALFA conference, massive, massive insurance conference, he told me his business strategy, blow your strategy. I said, 'Wow, good luck with that, man. I don't know anybody who's doing that. What I do know about the life insurance business is that every two years you have to do continuing education to to go out there and recruit and start a business and start with a blue ocean strategy recruiting Latina females.'"

In surveying both his behavior and his own admissions about how he runs things, it's no surprise that losing control of how he's viewed affected him. At every turn, Patrick fiercely defends his brand and expects high standards from employees. At one stage, he wound up basically doing a live performance review for his polarizing co-host Adam Sosnick after he was schooled by Dave Smith on the Piers Morgan Show.

"You live in America, tough guy. You have the luxury of sitting in your little studio with your hooded sweater like you're 17 years old. The regime you mean all American president in the last 50 years,"

"Adam, I'm 17 years old."

"What's your favorite president of the last 50 years?"

"I have a wife and children. Who depends on you, Adam? Your mom."

"Okay. I also have If you want to make it personal, so you want to go, you have a significant other."

"We can go as personal as we can go."

"No, I'm trying not to go as personal as respond to one thing. I don't care. Adam, some substance."

To Patrick, this kind of behavior reflected badly on the entire company and he didn't hesitate to let him know.

"And the reason why I'm doing this with you openly and I'm talking to you openly with you is there's an element of also representing where you're coming from, where the expectation is, hey, where do you go? Be professionals. That's not how I handle debates. I don't handle debates that way. That's not my MO. So, if you're close to me and you're handling it that way, that is not my style. I I don't I don't do I don't do stuff like that. And Dave and I don't even agree on some of these issues. If my private feedback that I'm giving doesn't land and it feels like you have immunity to go run around and say whatever you want to keep saying, I don't give what people say. I do."

But instead of worrying about what his co-hosts were doing to his reputation, he should have been a lot more concerned about his own decisions. Because in recent times, Patrick's willingness to take the cash of another company has spelled nothing but trouble.

"Fall conference this year is brought to you by Goliath Ventures. The title sponsor of this entire event is Goliath Ventures founder Chris Delgado. We've spent a lot of time with these guys. They've come to Yankees games with us. They've been coming to Vault conferences for the last god knows how many years. Goliath Ventures, founded in 2019. Glide Ventures is a global private equity firm focused on blockchain founded by Chris Delgado. It's built on three pillars, technology, opportunity, and community. Build on three pillars: technology, opportunity, and community. You can go search them, Glo uh Glide Ventures, Inc.com, to learn more about them. They'll be at the conference all over the place."

"The Justice Department says the 34-year-old scammed investors out of $328 million through his company, Goliath Ventures."

Recently, PBD has come under fire for championing Goliath Ventures, a company whose logo featured an upside-down triangle, which was later revealed to be a Ponzi scheme. And these aren't just allegations. They are verified facts that led to the arrest of Christopher Delgado, the company's CEO, in February of 2026. This was all on wire fraud and money laundering charges connected to the alleged scheme. "Goliath Ventures was a Ponzi scheme that took in over $320 million of regular people, retirees, business owners' money under the promise of making them multiple percents per month. We made a Coffeezilla video about it recently. Christopher Delgado recently talked to the press here without his lawyer present. And we reported this back in October to federal authorities and about 6 months later, Christopher Delgado was officially arrested."

"The Justice Department says the 34-year-old scammed investors out of $328 million through his company, Goliath Ventures."

"So, what happened to their money that should have been sitting in an account?"

"Their money was being used to make distributions."

"To who? To either them or other investors."

"And what else did you use the money for?"

"I mean, we used it for corporate events. We used it for personal spend."

Over a series of public appearances, PBD actively promoted them.

"Goliath Ventures, founded in 2019. Glide Ventures, a global private equity firm focused on blockchain founded by Chris Delgado. It's built on three pillars: technology, opportunity, and community."

Most likely because they were the lead sponsor of his own Vault 2025 conference, meaning Patrick was literally being paid to put them in front of his own audience. This in itself is a bad look because it suggests that if you've got enough capital, Patrick's at your disposal. Once the head of Goliath faced criminal charges, PBD was not only subpoenaed as a result, but was branded a scammer once more. With Delgado essentially leading with the same playbook that made Patrick a multi-millionaire in the first place. In all fairness, it is impossible to know if PBD was aware it was a scam. But when you look at their entire business model, his endorsement of this seems negligent at best and outright devious at worst.

Initially, PBD didn't respond to Coffeezilla's request that he make amends and repay the million he'd received from Goliath to victims of the fraud. Soon, Pat realized that he couldn't bury his head in the sand and confronted the accusations directly, but the pursuit of accountability for how he helped prop him up didn't go well. And as usual, PBD talked in circles and never actually answered the question.

"You know how sometimes you do certain crypto deals and it's like, 'Hey affiliate, you're going to get this much money for this affiliate.' Zero. We didn't accept nothing like that. So there isn't, hey, we're going to pay you an additional, you know, 10% on whatever that's done. Zero. We don't do business."

"Right? You got paid the mill. But you got paid the million, right? And so million dollar."

"And and look, I'm I'm not I I know it sounds like I'm trying to put you on the spot. I'm not. It just seems like you're going to have to fork it over eventually for the receivership anyways. Like so many people lost money. It seems like an easy win, you know."

"And and that's the part where, you know, that's the part where I'm in right now. You got to you got to respect that part that I'm going with. I I uh gave you the respect of getting on a call with you and giving giving you the information. The information will come out."

"No, I appreciate it. So, you're not sure whether you're paying the money back yet or not. You're just you're having those conversations. But here's the other part that you also don't know. You don't know if we're doing other things with the conversations we're having with others. There's a lot of different things that we're doing that's not public. The only thing you know is the stuff that you're hearing."

And one of the most interesting and contradictory moments of the near half-hour phone call, PBD claimed not to seek advertising for his podcast, only for Coffeezilla to make it abundantly clear that he does and not all of it is from morally upstanding sources.

"I went to my guys, I said, 'Guys, I don't want sponsorship money.' And so our strategy changed where we said, 'We're going to do sponsorship for products that we run because I'll take responsibility for product that I'm running cuz I'm the CEO.'"

"Okay. Quick quick quick quick question there though because I'm looking at your show right now. It says Khi on your thing, the sports betting. Uh well, they do prediction markets. Khi/PBD. Are you guys partnered with them or what's that about?"

"Well, remember Khi is not my uh uh uh what do you call it? Title sponsor. They're a platinum sponsor for the Vault conference. And remember what I told you. We said we're going Fortune 1000, Fortune 2000. I don't have a problem going with companies that have names, but I'm not going to go with companies that are not names. And Koshi happens to be a company that."

"Okay. I was I was just misunderstanding it cuz you said you didn't do sponsors on your show."

This is a bad look for Patrick Bet David, prompting speculation about whether he'll sell out to the highest bidder. And at the moment, a scandal like this is the last thing he needs when he's already got himself increasingly caught up in narratives that leave him looking compromised. There was an allusion to PBD's political stances earlier, and this is exactly what was being referred to. At times, PBD has built himself as a centrist who waits to acquire all the information before he can then make an informed decision.

"When you're winning, don't believe the hype. When you're losing, don't believe the hype. Whatever story even your own side is saying, why don't you be skeptical a little bit and question it for yourself and see if you can entertain both ideas. I I want to find ways to entertain both ideas as much as possible because I find myself becoming sharper when I do that and I eliminate blind spots. Anytime I'm 100% one side, I have way too many blind spots."

But these days, it looks like he's cashed in all his chips on the right. And those blind spots are now abundant. Instead of challenging the mainstream media as he believes he does, Patrick tends to align with the status quo and supports controversial right-wing figures, which often harms his reputation. In a notable scandal, he defended Tim Pool and his team during the scandal that exposed how they had been tricked into collaborating with a secret Russian operation.

"Tim Pool is a talent. Dave Rubin is a talent. Lauren Chen very attractive, well-spoken, seems sharp. Maybe they needed the money. I don't know. And then you're putting this in email exchange. So you're you're you're incriminating yourself. You are a part of it based on the some of the stuff that you've done. But uh it's a very slippery this game. By the way, this this will be a non-story in about 2 weeks. Everybody will move on."

"Yeah."

By the looks of it, he wanted to keep these people on site as previous guests and in all likelihood friends. And of course, there's defending Trump to the hilt, proclaiming himself to have voted for him in every election and routinely blowing smoke in his direction.

"Let's go and talk deception after he wins. November 5th, every odd says he's winning. Kamala's got 80 billionaires that are endorsing her. He's only got 50 billionaires, right? Kamala's got all of Hollywood and all these guys. He doesn't have those guys. He's got the podcasters. He's got the day-to-day people. He's getting the young mill. He's getting the young African-American. It's the biggest plus minus ever since 1964. But there is there's one thing that we have to be thinking about. Let's go November 6th."

And away for domestic matters, he's pushing for him to obtain one of the biggest accolades the world has to offer. "But I think this man is on track for winning the Nobel Peace Prize. Some people say the following, which is kind of a weird one to hear, but it's a lot of people believe this case as well. They say if you win a Nobel Peace Prize, kind of part of the establishment and they don't give the Nobel Peace Prize to anti-establishment candidates. So if he doesn't win, it's actually a compliment at the highest level. If he does win, maybe he kind of joined the club. Who knows? Or he just piles so much success that those guys are just biting their nails saying, 'Holy [expletive] if we don't give it to this guy, what else can we do right now? We gave it to Obama after 9 months. didn't do anything. I think they're going to be forced to do something. Who knows? What do you think?"

While there's no shortage of people who do this for Trump, the reason why it's strange coming from Patrick is that he's built himself as a disruptor who offers an alternative to the mainstream media. But in practice, this isn't what occurs as he'll give the mic to anyone to push their agendas if their politics align. After getting fired from CNN for helping his brother, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who covered his tracks during a sexual harassment scandal, rocked up to PBD's podcast and was handed a microphone with zero pushback.

"I didn't touch anybody. One of the guys put his hand on me and I said, 'I'm telling you, take your hand off me.' And I gave him the warning. He took the warning. Um, nobody ever told me what to say or not say at CNN. And I would have tell told them to take a walk if they did."

And when they saw the footage, even his own fans were startled by the lack of objectivity. It wasn't just that PBD didn't ask enough questions. He barely even expressed any opposing viewpoints. This was Cuomo's show and the other guys were his admiring sidekicks. "What the Pat? This quickly became a pattern with this absence of opposition also occurring during Andrew and Tristan Tate's appearances where he let them put forth their own narrative about the accusations they faced from countless victims."

"Everyone who was unjustly in prison, everyone's going to jail because when you stand up for something, they end up trying to put you in jail. When you're a good person trying to do good, the evil, the matrix as a whole is going to try and throw you in jail. That's what they do. That's the punishment for it."

"Why did you go to jail? Why did you get banned? Why did they take your Instagram down? I mean, I remember the pictures. It was all cars and suits and motivational stuff. So, is it guilty by association?"

"It it is guilty by association. I hate to say it, but I'm fully aware that I would not have been banned or canceled or probably ended up in jail if I wasn't Andrew's brother. But there are so many benefits that come with being Andrew's brother that you have to take the good with it. You have to take the good with the bad. So."

Suddenly a new precedent emerged. PBD was an outlet for the wealthy and powerful to push their agenda. And it was all but solidified when he had Netanyahu on the show. Throughout the interview, he portrayed the Prime Minister of Israel as the puppet master, consistently sidestepping difficult questions about topics like the ongoing genocide to allow him to control the narrative and present his own talking points.

"And I think that uh you know people see it after you do it. After you do it, after you uh realize your vision, then people say, 'Well, yeah, we we begin to understand it.' But they don't before. And that's certainly true of the case here. Uh in the United Nations, you have 180 countries, 190 countries, and a great majority would tell you that the earth is flat. It doesn't make it flat. And the vilifications against Israel is a is a a country committing genocide and other war crimes, that doesn't make it true either. Did you ask me about the ICC prosecution just now?"

"Mhm."

"Well, let me tell you about that."

And if you think his fans were angered by the Chris Cuomo situation, this one did a number on his credibility. "This dude would do anything for viewers and money. You're the system we all hate." Despite this video sitting at over 44,000 dislikes, PBD continued caping for Zionism when the subject came up and even squared off with Israel-critical personalities like Dan Bilzerian.

"A lot of our politicians have far more allegiance to Israel than they do the United States. I mean that's a whole another issue as well."

"Do you know why they did they did the dual citizenship? Do you know the history behind why they did the dual citizenship?"

"What do you mean? Like so the whole concept of dual citizenship was because when Israel became a country again. They didn't want the people from here who wanted to go back to Israel that didn't have a motivation to go if they were going to lose their citizenship here. So that was the reason why they did it. Was kind of like, okay, you're your own country. We kind of need some of you guys to move over there to help the country out."

"Yeah, but I'm not going to go."

"Why are you not going to go?"

"Am I going to lose my citizenship here?"

"But you kind of you are I mean we don't do that every other country you got to I don't want to lose my citizenship."

"Well okay how about if we do this? How about if we allow you just Israel to go back to your country you won't lose your citizenship. That was the arrangement at the beginning why they did it that way."

"No look I get it. I have three citizenships. You know what I mean? I think it's okay."

In the same time the Trump support has been unwavering, leading to Patrick silencing dissent and writing off anything said against him as derangement. "Hollywood stars going out there becoming super famous. And then all of a sudden guys like Mark Ruffalo who's a super super socialist guy. Deca millionaire played Hulk is going out there complaining about America. You got guys like Robert De Niro who is one of the greatest actors of all time. He can't even control himself when it comes down to Trump. Disagree with the guy. Don't like what his ideas are. But they're showing so much weakness. Every time they hear the name Trump, they shiver. And it's just a sign of their weakness and Trump strength."

He even did the utmost to support him over his Epstein ties. He went hard on Bill Clinton with Epstein. "If you want to play this clip, Rob, go for it."

"Bill, nice guy. Uh, got a lot of problems coming up in my opinion with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of problems."

"Epstein in your remarks about in the Q&A."

"I think he's got a problem. I don't think I I don't know. But that island was really a cesspool. There's no question about that."

"Pause it right there. By the way, if you look at the president, he looks much better than he did here. So, he's lost weight. Look at those cheeks."

"Good for him, right? Look at that. He was only after two big you did in 2015."

But it must be acknowledged that he let it be known that he was let down by how the release of the files were handled by the government.

"Did you think when Trump said Epstein's old news?"

"You talking about Epstein?"

"Yeah."

"Um I think uh good to be back on with you buddy. But this is what I would tell you. The number one trending hashtag right now on X is Epstein. 2 million people have tweeted with the topic of Epstein. Number two is."

Nicki Minaj at 100,000. Comey's at 42 and a half thousand. There is a reason why people are asking about this. This is by far and I'm a supporter. Three times I voted for this man. This is by far the biggest fumble of the administration they've had thus far. And here's a reason why.

Due to the fact that it involves the homeland that his family fled, Patrick has been very vocal on the matter of the war in Iran. But once again, this proved to be an opportunity to boost Trump and claim it as a win, overlooking things such as the funding request of up to $50 billion to support the war and the fact that 15 American troops lost their lives for that cause. By this point, many former PBD fans basically feel like he's controlled by his handlers. So, it was no surprise that the world seemed to collectively rejoice when he was cooked by Medi Hassan, the British American journalist best known as the head of Zateo News. Over the course of two hours and 30 minutes, Medi, who has plenty of critics of his own, completely schooled him, leaving Patrick with little to fire back with.

You know, Donald Trump since October has allowed in 6,069 refugees. And do you know that 6,66 99.9% of them are from white South Africa. Only three are Afghan. Donald Trump won't allowed you into this country. And yet you sit and support. You voted from three times. Donald Trump would not have allowed Little Patrick Bet David into this country. How do you feel about that?

You're so funny.

A genuine question.

You are so funny.

It's a genuine question. He wouldn't have let little Patrick win.

No, no Iranians were allowed in this year.

After Medi asserted his intellectual superiority, he effectively seized control of the whole thing, leaving Patrick struggling to make up any ground whatsoever in the face of some actual data.

Can you please send this chart to this man here?

Pull it up.

He's the Muslim community, which is great.

Will you give me permission to read from your screen?

Go for it.

Can we scroll down? This is a great moment for me taking over your show. Scroll down. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Stop, stop, stop. So, the former president's margin of victory over Harris is a minuscule 1.6 percentage, but actually, it's 1.5. It went down after that. Smaller than that of every winning president since 1888, other than JFK and Richard Nixon. In fact, in the 55 presidential elections in which the popular vote winner became president, listen to this. Oh, your lip viewers are getting some good facts today. 49 of those 55 elections were won with a margin bigger than Donald Trump's in 2024. I hope the president is watching your show. I know he's a friend of his. He's coming.

Even when it came to the topic of the Iran war that PBD has been painting himself as an expert in, Hassan showed no mercy and made it clear that he had him where he wanted him.

Isn't UAE succeeding the most out of most of the Gulf States when they financially?

Are they so many businesses have cleared out? Tourism has fallen. Huge industry based on tourism

for the time for the time.

You think people are going to go back?

My thing is

I think so.

I think that their image has been permanently destroyed. I don't think you could put it back in the bottle. They had this image, especially to kind of white westerners, as this business, tourist, even residential utopia. You go there, there's no crime, you chill out, everything's cheaper, etc., etc. Um, I think that's gone now. Once once you Iran has done this, I think they've destroyed that image. Now, if you're Amazon or you're whatever it is, Chase Bank, you're going to go back into Dubai, Abu Dhabi, knowing that Iran can then do this again at any time they want. As long as Iran is still run by the same government, I don't think these Gulf States get that image back. And I think the Kataris understand that. Even the Saudis understand that. They want a region I think privately and I may be wrong and the few people in the Gulf I speak to who say this to me they recognize that Israel is the real problem in the region. They may not say so publicly some of them have signed up to the Abraham accords like Baharin etc UAE but I think they understand that Israel is the destabilizing force in the region.

In the aftermath fans and haters alike came together to discuss the fact that he was well and truly eviscerated. I haven't seen a [ __ ] taking a pounding like this since the Kim Kape. After years of maneuvering to get into the limelight, Patrick B. David is now being exposed on all levels. Whether it's his limited skills as a debater, the fact that he's paring the party lines on basically everything, or his proximity to scams, Patrick can't buy a good look at the moment. And now those who have long suspected that he wasn't on the level are savoring his downfall. PBD is a blood sucking gull. I have been waiting for this. Now trapped in a financial and ideological cage of his own devising. It's going to be interesting to see how he can possibly reinvent himself because at the moment the stick that he's been selling has turned toxic and is no longer something anyone wants to buy.