Khalid Muhammad - Religion Vs. Spirituality (1997)

I'll make the introduction brief, brothers. Here to impart some knowledge upon us. Everyone knows who he is, Brother Khalid Abdul Mohammed. The truth terrorist, the knowledge gangster, the lie killer, the urban guerrilla, the black history hit man. Brothers and sisters, put your hands together and give a warm welcome, a black hand, to Brother Khalid Abdul Mohammed.

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In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of all the worlds. We've to thank Almighty God Allah for coming as it was written and prophesied that he would come to seek and to save that which was lost. We thank him for coming in the person of Master Fard Muhammad and raising up in our midst a divine leader, a divine teacher, and a divine guide in the person of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. And I thank the two of them for the man who is my mentor and my teacher and who is largely responsible for my spiritual rites of passage. I speak of none other than my spiritual father, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. And in their names, I greet you, my sisters and brothers, with the greeting words of peace. Assalamualaikum. Hotel Shalom. Salaam. See, I laugh, and I'm guiding free the land and black laws for all black people. It is indeed my honor to be invited again to D&J Book Distributors here in New York and to have this opportunity to speak to you on this very timely topic. I don't know who really chose the topic. I don't know if it was chosen here, if Brother Kareem chose it, or Brother Saleem chose it. Okay. And it's a very good topic, I believe. And hopefully, we can cover this ground and get out relatively quickly.

The subject is dealing with spiritualism and religion. Actually, it pits the two against each other: religion versus spirituality in the black community. That's quite a subject. Some might ask the question, what's the difference between religion and spirituality? Why do we have to make a distinction? Well, as we study our ancient history, we will find that the African man, the African woman, the original black man and woman of the planet Earth, that we are a spiritual people by nature. No matter where you find us, you'll find us a spiritual people. That's why they say of the most lowdown and no good and lowlife ones, after 400 years under the white man, but can be redeemed. Those among us, no matter what kind of filth they're in, they say no matter what you find them doing, that there is something spiritual about the most lowlife among us. Robbers, rapists, killers. Don't deal us. It is said, especially by our elders, they say if you catch him in the right position, which is really in most cases the wrong position, and catch him really down, you'll find that he's gonna call on God. In all of that madness and all of that filth, there's something in the black man, something in the black woman, that is spiritual by nature.

Now, whence came this thing called religion? Religion coming from an etymological root related to binding together, how to relink or reconnect. But in all actuality and truth, as I was taught by my teacher, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, who was taught by his teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, is that we have never really been fully disconnected from that spirituality. When you study the pineal gland, when you study the highly developed melano-sites and the melanin in the black man and woman, in my guess, who I was looking for, Sister Allah Kay, just walked in. Good example of melanin since I'm talking about it. Study melanin and study the pineal gland, then you understand our spiritual connection to the God, to the universe, and to the cosmos. And we understand that white people, not having that development of melanin and not having the highly developed pineal gland, actually, they teach in Western medicine that the pineal gland has no function whatsoever. That it's just there. It has no purpose. Now, we know God makes nothing that has no purpose. Certainly, we know that God makes nothing that has no purpose in this magnificent form called a human form, of the human body. Everything in this magnificent human form has an aim and a purpose. But the reason they say that the pineal gland has no function or purpose is because now, as we study, we are finding out that a great percentage of white people, a high percentage, sometimes 75%, sometimes 80%, sometimes 85% or more, we are finding that their pineal gland is what is called in traditional medicine, as has been studied by the greats among us as black people, that their pineal gland is what is called calcified. And so, with a calcified pineal gland, then they don't have the connection in the cosmos. They don't have the root in the universe. They don't have the connection to the all-mighty, all-wise God and creator.

And we find also that for every physical law, there's a mental and a spiritual counterpart. Everything in nature enjoys the sun, bathes in the sun, basks in the sun. The sun gives light, life, and energy to everything in the universe. Some flowers turn with the sun, whichever direction the sun is in, that you'll find the plant leaning in that direction, turning in that direction. Everything absorbs the rays of the sun, the life-giving rays of the sun. But the white man finds that the sun is an enemy to his and her existence. And so now, they not only have Coppertone and Man Tan and all of the others, sun blockers, they call it. You know what I'm talking about. They have to wear the sun blockers. Gee whiz, gotta have some blockers because the sun is an enemy to them. And they end up with what is called melanoma. And melanoma striking white people, setting up a cancerous state that eats away at the very fabric and fiber of their flesh, destroying them. We find them now taking some kind of melanin peel. What do they call that stuff? They got our melatonin. I knew you knew this. That D&J crew and some of you make all the stops all over all of the birds. Can you imagine the devil trying to do it the artificial way? That's like baking a cake. You put all the ingredients in the cake, but you leave the baking soda, the baking powder out. And you put the cake in the oven, and it falls. Then you're gonna go like a fool and take the cake out the oven and try to sprinkle some baking soda, baking powder on some baking powder, really baking powder on top of the cake after the cake has been baked and after the cake is already flat in the pan. And then put it back in the oven as though now it's gonna rise because you have baking powder on top of the cake. The baking powder must be an integral ingredient in the mixture and the ingredients of the recipe of the cake before it's put in the oven to bake, if the cake is gonna look right, taste right, and stand up and not fall down. Some of y'all know what I'm talking about. Some of y'all don't know nothing about baking no cake. You just know how to eat the cake, that's all. And I'm probably one of the, when I know about this cracker though, I know about this cracker though. Can't bake no cake, but I know how to work on this cracker fall like the cake with no baking powder in the oven. So melatonin, trying to take it after you have come into existence, after your nature has been determined, after you have been coded. Now you gonna sprinkle some melatonin somewhere and it's gonna give you what the black man has by nature? It's gonna give you what the black woman has by nature?

A group of scholars, including Dr. Wave Nobles and others out of the San Francisco and the Bay Area, did a recent study to show that black people are more spiritually inclined than white people. It shows that black people, I repeat, are more spiritually inclined than white people. This study gives us the key to the devious, concupiscent nature of white people, their natural lean against the divine and universe to order. Whatever any book says, Old Testament, New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus. Now, I don't care what it is. If it's the Quran, if it's the Bible, or New Testament, as I said, whatever the divine word says, you'll find white people saying, "Oh, it's alright, try it, you'll like it." They go against God's law and against God's word and against God's way. They are the only people that pollute the very air that even they have to breathe, pollute the very water that even they have to drink, which is condemning themselves to death, destroying the rainforest, tampering with the delicate balance in nature, destroying the ozone layer around the earth. And so now, it's hot when it's supposed to be cold. It's cold when it's supposed to be hot. It's snowing when the sun is supposed to be shining, and the sun is shining when it's supposed to be snowing. Everything all messed up. Now, the birds, the bees, the trees, the flowers, the ants, everything crying out for relief from the rule of the white men. Everybody on the face of the planet Earth, except Uncle Mose and Auntie Mae, here in the hills of North America, we're still trying to integrate with the Grim Reaper, the white man himself. Still trying to marry the white man. Our magazines, Ebony and Jet, and our newspapers, still glorified negroes who marry crackers. It's a big deal if you marry a peckerwood. It's news. If you marry a cracker, it's news because a white person has accepted you. So black people are happy when white folks accept us.

I want the religion or the state of spiritual consciousness that God had in the triple blackness of the universe when he first set it all in motion. That's the religion I want. The Bible says that God is not the author of confusion. And since we know that God is not the author of confusion, whence came the confusion? The confusion came from the devil. The confusion comes from the white man. Over 666 different denominations of Christianity, over 300 and something different denominations of Islam. And in New York City, you got a different religion in several, on every corner, and several more in the middle of the block. Some of you've heard me say before: Church of God in Christ on the corner, Church of God out of Christ right next door, Church of God over Christ across the street, Church of God around Christ around the corner, Church of God in Christ out of Christ over Christ under Christ around Christ. Some just Church of God, ain't got no Christ. Some of them Church of Christ, ain't got no God. Some of them just having church and got no God, ain't got no Christ, just having church. Got the damn organ going, and the piano going, and a whole lot of hell [ __ ] is running all over the place with choir robes on. The preachers assist a hole in the Bible. Funny. This is not all the churches. I repeat, this is not all, but it covers many of them. The pastor bringing two men up to the pulpit, to the altar of God, where God's name is honored and revered, to marry two men in the house of God, marry two women in the house of God, which is an abomination before God. And so the church has played the role of a [ __ ]. The Bible asks the question of the, it asks the question, whether the bride would be ready if her garments would be white when the bridegroom appears, representing the coming of the Messiah, who is the representative of God among the people on this plane, on earth. And so symbolically and metaphorically, they call the church the, the bride. And they ask if the church would remain a virgin, and if the church's garments would be unsoiled, if the garments of the church would be pure and white. They'd say pure and white, meaning with the garments show any spots or blemishes. But now the church is laying down in the filth and wallowing in the filth of the world. Some preachers sell the boat of their congregation to no-good crackers like Bill Clinton. Bucky Lenton, the cracker with the big [ __ ] on his line, devil, you know the cracker got a billion dollars. He had to be lying, and his nose didn't grow like Pinocchio. This practice has grown. Still a sign that he's lying. All of these crackers lying. You heard what happened over in New Jersey? The preachers that were called on the carpet for selling votes and influencing the black voting constituency. You say, "Well, we don't know whether that's true or not." I say, "No, even be in a position to be accused of that, be saw above that until nobody would even think that you might have done it." But you don't want me to remember the big scandal when they would talk about the preachers over in New Jersey, they were selling votes on the take. Yeah, round that Christine Whitman, they call her Whitman, but it's really white man. It's real quick. Christine Whitman, it's white man. That's not good. You know, when it's another story for another time. The church has played the harlot, as the Bible says.

The religion that I want is the religion, I repeat, that God had, the spiritual consciousness, if you will, that God had from the very beginning of it all in the triple blackness of space and the universe. I want the religion that the birds have, that the bees have, that the ants have. They have a natural religion. The birds have a natural religion. They obey the will of God. They bow in submission to the natural, universal, and divine order that God has set up. And so the birds prosper. No homeless birds. All the birds got a house. May not be one of the funny houses you be although I do farm in a tree, but they got a house. Birds have a nest. Birds have food. They don't have no mission for the birds. The birds got to go and fly by in a line and wait for a handout for some crackers at the Salvation Army, singing some foolishness and putting some foolishness in their heads to get a meal. Birds have food. Birds have ample covering for the change in the season. Birds, birds. I want the religion that the birds have. What is the religion of the ant? They had bills of society, if we can use that term. And ant society, metaphorically speaking, ants work in unity, work for the common good of the whole, work in season and know what to do out of season because there's work to do out of season. But another kind of work to be done in the season of the greater work for the greater good of the ant colony. I wonder what is the religion of the ant. Look at the bees. Bees don't go to a recipe or cooking school, Home Economics school, and get a recipe on how to make honey. Yeah, they just make honey. They don't go and learn at a carpentry school and learn how to build a hive. There's something in the nature of the bird, something in the nature of the bee, something in the nature of the ant. I wonder what is the religion of the bird, of the ant, of the bee. You said, "We're not birds, we're not bees, we're not ants." But there's something in our nature, even greater than the bird, than the bee, than the ant, that is supposed to incline us to that which is divine. But we have not been under our Father, our spiritual Father. We have not been under our spiritual Mother. We have been under a surrogate parent who is the devil himself. And he has taught us the ways of himself. And so our society is like the white man's society. We have put down our culture and picked up the white man's culture, his holidays, our holidays, his drinks, our drinks, his drugs, our drugs, his madness, our madness, his foolishness, our foolishness. We watch his soap operas. We watch the madness that he puts on his screen to put into our heads and our hearts. And then we go and try that same mess on each other. And his world is falling down. So our society can come up and be sustained if we're watching played out before our eyes the fall of the white man's world and trying to live in ourselves.

Prayer is important to a spiritual people. When you're spiritual, you're prayerful. Makes no difference what your religion is. Remember, it makes no difference. In a few minutes, I'll show you that all of the religions, and I'm not going to be long, all of the religions come from the original black man and black woman. Some of them are spin has been put on it, a twist has been put on it, something added in or taken out. But the white man didn't have religion. He crawled around on his all fours in the caves and hills of Europe, eating juniper roots and eating each other with no religion, afraid of fire, hadn't even discovered it for the most part, had no house with a window, didn't know what a shoe was, and didn't even know what clothes was. Walked around butt naked, hot or cold, everyday intercourse with the animals. You can't argue with him when he say the dog is his best friend. You can't come between him and the dog. I have to put a law on the books to keep him out for the sheep. I don't know what it is with the white man and the sheep, but they got a law in the penal code book to keep crackers off a sheep. I guess he just likes to hit a sheep. Go back, back. I got a project sheep from our so-called man. Prayer, regardless to the religion, let us attempt to give prayers some clear definition. Prayer is focus, meditation, concentration, communion, and communication with the all-mighty, all-wise God and creator, the great power and force behind it all. Prayer is focus, meditation, concentration, communion, and communication. As for prayer, prayer pulls on the cosmos. Prayer rearranges the universe. Prayer affects the molecules and the atoms of the atmosphere. If you realize the power of your mind and the power of the spoken word coming from you. They say, "In the beginning was the word." Well, it is that word in your head, in your heart, and released from your lips in the beginning that rearranges the molecules and the atoms of the atmosphere and pulls on the universe to shake the reality that you have spoken to, to shake the reality that you have willed by planting the thought firmly in the universe. That's what prayer is. It ain't none spooky-spookyism. Is an intense emotional commitment to a non-existent nothing. That's all spooky-spookyism is. It's believing in Shazam, abracadabra, some hocus-pocus, when the power is in you all the time. The same God that set the universe in motion. Spirituality guides us and teaches us that that power is in you and in me. All religions coming up out of the root, which is spirituality. Spirituality is the root. Is the African root of the original root of the black man and woman that religion, the perversion called religion, has grown up from and grown up out of. Religion divides us. We get hung up on labels. Right? Winos don't have that much problem now. Why not? All give a damn about the label. Why don't just want to know what's in the Bible? What's the content? Get me the content. You keep the label. We can hung up on the label, not realizing that many times the content is essentially the same. And we fall out with each other over the label. Oh, you want the movies? Are you? You want a movie? Are you running them crazy Christmas? Oh, you wanted him? You, you, you. Often adept at that voodoo, voodoo in it, juju. You often to that voodoo. Some smell sighs. It makes no difference what label we put on it. What is the content?

Let me cover that for a few minutes. In the ancient Kemet system, which is called the Egyptian system by the white man, to greet the free, but the true name is Kemet. In the ancient Kemet system, we have what is called the Neter system. What does it call the Neter system? When you deal with Neters, you're dealing with the forces of nature. The white man gets the term Neter from nature, the forces of nature. And so to a fool, a fool would say the ancient Egyptians, the ancient people of Kemet, they believed in many gods. They believed in Ptah, in Amun, in Ra, in Aten, in Nut, in Ma'at. They go on and on to say, "We believe in many gods." But that's not true. The name of each one of the so-called gods, terminology of the white man, represent different manifestations of the same one God. But a Christian, trained by the white man, and all most Christians are trained by the white man. A Muslim, trained by the white man, the white Arab, and most Muslims are trained by the white Arab, directly or indirectly, will criticize the ancient Africans of Kemet and say that this is a heathen religion. "You've got many gods. What's all that Amun and Amun-Ra? What's all that old talk about Ptah? And what's all that old talk about this one? And now all them different gods y'all got? You got pictures all up on the walls and stuff." Christian will criticize. Muslim will criticize. But look at it. Mr. Muslim, Miss Muslim, suppose the world criticized you. You talk about Al-Rahman, you talk about Al-Rahim, you talk about Al-Hakim, you talk about Al-Mu'min, you talk about Al-Ali, you talk about 99 different attributes and one who is unwise would believe that you have 99 different gods. But it's really 99 different expressions and manifestations of the same one God. And the 100th attribute is Allah, which means all-in-all, which pulls all 99 of the attributes together. Then we go and study the Ifa. The word, the Ifa, or we study the Ikon, or we studied the Yoruba. And when we study the Ifa, the word, or we study the Ikon of the Yoruba, and we read not from Bible or from Quran, but we read to find which Odu substantiates our position. The scripture, the text is called Odu Scripture, or the Odu text. And when we studied the Odu, or the Odu texts of scripture for substantiation and validation, we study and then we find. We study about Arun in the heavenly abode. We study about Olodumare, the pure energy source of all things known and unknown. Aleida, energy and unconditional matter. Or we study about Olorun, the supreme. Olorun are we study about Arun in LA, and we study about Olorun life. We're talking about the witness of creation and the choice of destiny. Or Orunmila, the crossroads, or the divine messenger. Let's come back to Christianity. You talk about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. What about the 12 disciples? Each one of the disciples has a name, and each one of the disciples' name means something. Andrew, Bartholomew, John, Judas, Peter. Peter coming from the etymological root Petros, which means rock. They call him Simon Peter. I mean, I know nobody comes here. How many know of Simon Peter? You heard of Simon Peter? Simon Peter. Simon represents faith. Peter represents rock. The names Simon Peter represents rock faith. Each of the twelve disciples of Jesus represents one of the twelve disciplines of the mind, one of the twelve attributes of the human being's psychic and spiritual makeup. Every one of the disciples represents a game. Your divine mind represents your divine makeup, represents the disciplines of the mind, the attributes of the mind, the divine qualities of the mind. Each of the twelve disciples represents your 12-fold divine power.

So if you look at it, each one of the so-called religions, when you get past the branch knowledge, go down the trunk of the tree of supreme wisdom to the root of the seed, you'll find that spirituality is at the root of it. Is the seed of it. Is what nurtures it. Is what nurtures and nourishes it and gives it its being and its existence. But all of the religions try to criticize each other when each has something that is being misunderstood by the other. And I'm here to tell you that there would be no Islam, there would be no Christianity, there would be no Judaism. There would be none of the world's major religions, no Catholicism, no Church of God in Christ, no Jehovah's Witnesses, none of them, no Seventh-day Adventists, if it were not for the original black man and woman of Africa. All of the world religions, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, all of them come from the spirituality of the black man and the black woman. Then you study about the chakras. How the chakras are what their connection is to divine and spiritual power. Whatever is so-called religion you go to, there are spiritual principles operating, and those spiritual principles point all the way back to our forefathers and foremothers in the very beginning of it all. You call God the Most High. Now, some of us get that mixed up. We need to stop and look at that for a minute. Doesn't mean that he's drunker than anybody else. Doesn't mean that he had more dope than anybody else, more drugs. So they called him the Most High. You know that God is higher, you know what I'm saying? He's higher than everybody else. That's nobody to tell about. He's not the most high that way. Most High dealing with a certain elevation and exaltation. And when we study scripture, let's say scripture of the Bible. You remember that Jesus told his disciples, "Greater works will you do than I have done." Anybody know that from the scripture? Some of you know that. He said, "The scripture, God points out that he would give the people power." Another scripture says, "Let this same mind that is in Christ Jesus be also in you." And then, "Greater works," in another place, "will you do that I have done." So Jesus had a work of feeding the multitude, feeding the masses. If we have spirituality, then we should have the power. Power should be exhibited. The power of feeding the multitude, feeding the masses. Jesus raised the dead. We should have the power to raise the mentally and spiritually dead. Not only that, Jesus walked the water. Now, we're taught that walking the water means water in scripture represents people, multitudes of people. That Jesus traveled on a high mental and spiritual plane above the people. We should have that kind of life. We should be living and exemplifying that kind of life. Spirituality is our very nature. It emanates from out the very core of our being. Religion, we have picked up from our enemy. There was no house of prayer prior to the coming of the white man. We didn't go in some house and pray. They've called church, synagogue, mosque, masjid, temple. The whole earth was that great house of prayer with no roof, with no roof on top of it. We didn't have to go and hide and pray for fear that some savage would run in and disrupt our prayers. And they do it now. In the church, they rob the church, come right in the church and stick the church up, take all the collection money like it's a bank or liquor store. But these buildings were built, and more and more upon the coming of the white man. Our every heartbeat, our pulse beat, our breath, our every breath as we breathe, we at a time were more in harmony with the universe, more in harmony with the God of our ancestors. It was a worship. Our lives were a worship. Now we have to go into a special place and worship because we don't do a worship every day. I repeat, our lives should be a worship to the Creator every day, every day. But we had to go into a superficial, artificial thing because a superficial, artificial man, and I'm almost finished, came onto our planet with such a rebellious nature until then we had to come up with books, scripture for guidance. What do you think we were doing before there was a Holy Quran? Muslims, Holy Quran ain't but 1400 years old. You think we had to wait until 1400 years old? Where the people with no birth record, nobody can find the birth record of the original black man and the original black woman. You think we waited until 1400 years ago for a book to come through Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him, as a revelation? We didn't even live until Prophet Muhammad was born. Give me a break. Because if you study Bilal, the black Ethiopian or Abyssinian slave, who was the slave of the white Arabs, when Prophet Muhammad raised up Islam and received a revelation, Bilal, the blue-black, purple-black African, who had been brought in with the other slaves among Prophet Muhammad's people, had never met Prophet Muhammad, never spoke to Prophet Muhammad, never heard his teaching, and Bilal believed in the one God already. And he met no Prophet Muhammad. Where did it come from? It came up out of his genetic memory bank. He knew about the one God and had never met Prophet Muhammad. Huh? What about Akhenaten and the dynasty of Akhenaten? Well, Akhenaten turned up the light. He didn't begin it. He didn't start it. Akhenaten in ancient Egypt or Kemet tried to turn up the flame on a belief in one God, right? And it was a reminder. But all the time, as people were believing in one God to begin with, where there was Amun or Akhenaten, it was still different manifestations of the one God. I'm trying to give you these principles. I know y'all used to me cussing out white folks and telling me, "Let's go and kill all the crackers and kill a few [ __ ] with the crackers." And but they gave me the subject. Had to speak on the subject they gave me. They gave me the subject: Religion versus Spirituality. And I think it's good for us to be clear on some of these points. Get your religion and your spirituality straight. You, you'll know who the enemy is. We can kill the cracker inside of self, and when it's time, and kill the cracker outside of self. But we have to have the spirituality correct, and we have to be rooted in our foundation. Must be good. I've covered key points. I can let some of this go and maybe take a few questions and answers.

In Islam, they believe in what is called that the spiritual house in Islam is called the one where all Muslims make their prayers. They face what place? What house? Well, not really easy. The Kaaba. Let me say so they might shock everybody. All Muslims do not face the East for prayer. The majority of the Islamic world does not face East for prayer. I'mma let it hang for me. And then you'll say, "When I say it, you say, 'Oh, I see.'" The spiritual center is called the Kaaba. But when you're talking about a spiritual center in Arabic, it's called the Qibla. The Qibla means spiritual center. And the actual spiritual center, the actual Qibla, is the Kaaba. The only ones who face the East are the ones who live in the West. So they look toward the East. What about the ones who are living in the East? And they still got to face the same house, Kaaba? They have to face West. Those who live in the North have to face South because it's a spiritual center. Those in the South have to face North because no matter whether they're in the North, South, East, or West, they're not facing a direction. They're facing a spiritual center. And that spiritual center is determined by where they are and their position on the planet. Everybody will be. Now, we just say it to the East because we're here in the West, and that's that's our reality, facing the East. But some Muslims face East, some face West, some face North, some face South, depending on the center of where the Kaaba is. But it's called the Kaaba. If we go back to the Mu'allaqat, if we study ancient Kemet or ancient Egypt, we will find that there is what is called the Ka and the Ba. And the Ka and the Ba represents the spirit and the one, the spirit and the soul. The Ka and the Ba, the spirit and the soul. Ancient Egypt, ancient Kemet, studying the Mu'allaqat. So the Arabs have what is called a Kaaba. They put the Ka and the Ba together and they called the house that we face with a black veil over it, they call it Al-Bayt Allah. And Al-Bayt Allah means the House of God. The House of God. But is it really the House of God? Is that where God really lives? The church says God lives in the church. Does God really live in the church? The Masjid, the mosque, the temple, the cathedral, the synagogue. They all say that God lives there. The question is, does God really live there? Is that the real House of God? Al-Bayt Allah? The church, the synagogue, the temple. Jesus in the scripture says, "Know ye not that you are the Temple of the Living God?" You are the Temple of the Living God. Not some house made of mortar and bricks and stone, no matter how pure your goal is, no matter how much fine marble or stone that you have put into it, no matter how many rubies and diamonds you have worked into the fiber and fabric of the wall. The real House of God is the very house that you have right now, sitting in these seats, some of you standing in this room. You are the House of God. You are the Church of God. You are the synagogue. We, the synagogue, the cathedral, the temple of the Living God. And so that's why our ancient ancestors called it the Ka and the Ba, the spirit and the soul. And somebody came after them and put a spin on it, the white Arabs, and called their house of prayer the Kaaba. I saw right. It helps orientate us back to ourselves. This is not to knock the Kaaba. I'm just telling you that there's a Ka-Ba above the, and you are the Ka-Ba that is above the Kaaba. You are the house that's above the house. If you ain't right, the church ain't right. If you ain't right, the temple ain't right. The mosque ain't right. The masjid ain't right. The synagogue ain't right. None of it is right. When I say synagogue, on timeout, don't integrate with no Johnny-come-lately and pasta Jews, some crackers who call themselves Jews, Netanyahu and all them boys. Ain't talking about them. I'm talking about the black Hebrew, the true Hebrew of scripture. Ain't got nothing to do with white folks. Ain't Jews at all. And unless we want to use that as some special term, and some time I come here, I'll go into that whole thing about Jew, Hebrew, Israelite. But we are the people who fulfill the Bible prophecies of the chosen of God. And I am not going to be one. You will never catch me sitting on any talk show or sitting with any cracker and they call himself him and me up, and I'm sitting there saying, "I'm not anti-Jewish. I'm not anti-Semitic." I'm anti whatever the hell they are. Whatever you are, goddamn it, I'm against it. Cracker, I know you ain't no Semite. I know you ain't a true Jew. I know you're not the true chosen people of God. I know you ain't none of that. But whatever you call yourself, I'm against it. Give a damn what it is. And I ain't gonna never say I'm not against it. God is against you, and I'm not gonna go against God and my ancestors by saying I'm not against you. I'm supposed to be against you. In fact, I get blessings for being against you. See, that's what y'all like. You are saying, "Say, look at you, look at you. You say, 'Wow, golly, come in, so spiritual.'" I'm saying, "Yeah, we went down, man. He came with some spiritual thing." You know, you know, we get that everywhere. You know, but just about everybody, there's some group. Don't different one. Don't want to call the white man the devil no more. Say, "Don't use that word." If there's a God, there has to be a devil. Give me a break. Huh? What is God? What is devil? God is the essence of good. God is good. Devil is the essence of evil. Devil is evil. That's all. Don't spook it. Do science. God equals good. Devil equals evil. Give me a break. That's all. This that simple. Huh? Everybody get a hey. If you got that, we can go home. No devil under the ground with no red panty hose, no pink foot [ __ ], no pink pitchfork, no stick. You and joke you and barbecue you on an eternal barbecue pit forever. Please. Your heaven and your hell. No God up in the sky riding on no damn cloud. Gotta keep them up in the sky, chilling, sitting back with a big throne. Come on, babies. Don't believe that. No grown folks believe in this stuff. Your heaven and your hell, according to spirituality, according to what? Your heaven and your hell are right here on this earth. Your heaven and your hell, the states of mind, states of being, planes of existence. You got no money, you broke as hell. Got none to eat, you hungry as hell. You get caught out here when this weather's changing on you and ain't got your coat, you cold as hell. Summertime come, you ain't got no air-conditioning, you ain't got no way to cool off, you hot as hell. You think these crackers gonna change? You crazy as hell. You're not gonna change. Can't change. Don't mislead the people. Don't confuse the people. Don't let them find you doing things and saying things that ties them up and confuses them. It's straight ahead. Straight ahead. Wait the people out. Raise the people from mental and spiritual death. Don't help bury them. Don't be like the ice maker, as we used to call the preacher, freezing the people's mind. Walk the water. Feed the masses. Feed the multitude. Not just food, but feed them the right supreme knowledge, wisdom, and understanding that will wake them up and raise them up, resurrect them from mental and spiritual death. If you don't know that the black man and woman, that we are from the very family of God, the infinite intelligence of the universe, the divine mind of the universe, the creative and regenerative power and force of the universe. If you don't know that we are of the very power and force of good, God of the universe. And if you don't know who the devil is, you don't have a chance. That's why Africa's in such bad shape. Nobody is teaching Africa knowledge of self today. And nobody is teaching Africa that the white man is the devil. Nobody. You have abandoned that teaching today. Every one of the leaders has abandoned it today. You are afraid to teach that the white man is the devil. You want money today. You want contracts and goddamn contacts and to be seen today. Teach the people the truth that they are the family of God, the family of good, family of the righteous. And it is a time for their resurrection. And the white man is the goddamn devil who stands in their way. That's what must be taught to them. Get on these talk shows and you tiptoe in it. You use skating and stuffing around the questions and skinning and grinning. Damn it, shameful for this to be going. Destroy the spirituality of the people. And so you heard them off and rush them into little religious groupings that mean nothing. These little religious houses mean nothing unless God is present, good is present, and true spirituality is there. And if you're black, and you all are, even Tiger Woods, damn fool. Come on. Now, this is making way to made up something. You see how sick we are? We say, "I know it's mostly." We are sick. That's a lily bunny. We sink. That's much worse than we are sick. We sink. That's what Grandma would say. That's what Big Mama would say. We sick. Huh? That's what Mama ain't made ours would say. We sick. Mama Lottie, by Meharry. We sick. Uncle Naps. They plain is simple, straight to the point. Come on, Tiger Woods. But everybody's afraid to offend him. Only way you can reach this young man is to slap him upside his nappy head with the truth. Not with your hand, with the truth. Every time he looks around, he should have to face the truth. Every way he goes, the crackers making fun of it, calling him a fried chicken eating [ __ ]. Collard greens, even [ __ ]. I said, "[ __ ], you might be a Cal or what?" Huh? You might be a Caliban Asian or whatever the hell you want to be. A Caliban Asian or cantaloupe, whatever [ __ ] your [ __ ] to me. You can knock all the little white ball balls you want to in a black hole in black mother earth, swinging your iron between your legs, as Dr. Francis Cresswell has given us the key to the size of these eyes that you swing between the legs, and not this little scrawny white ball representing the white testicles of the white, scrawny white testicles of the white man, who not only has a deficiency in melanin and the development of the pineal gland, but he fears, as though as the Public Enemy said, he fears a black planet. He's Dr. Well Sing says he fears genetic annihilation because he knows that you are dominant and he is recessive. So he plays games with balls. Big brown balls for the NBA. Huh? Little white scrawny balls for the Masters. You ain't no master. You won't be a master in this fool. They just let [ __ ] in the Masters in the '90s. A neighbor to [ __ ] there now. That don't carry this. You know, that don't cut the grass and clean out the traps and put a new extra roll of tissue in the toilet so they won't run out. The crackers will run out. This [ __ ] really goes in there with the power of God because he's on an original black man. Tell me nothing about his mama. She was present, but she had an encounter with the black man. This makes all the difference in the world. Maybe don't nobody else know, but you ought to know, sister. You ought to know. If you don't know, you better ask somebody. Yes, his mama was present. What is she from? Thailand? No, that ain't too far away. She ain't a white woman. Huh? She might want to be honorary white. Now he wants to be honored. He say, "Look, I'll be anything but don't make me black. I don't want to be African." You know, or not, you know, just let me in the Masters. You know what he had to go through to get into Masters? Huh? Not as sorry. They let him in. A baby from the cradle. What they call a [ __ ] baby? A [ __ ] fried chicken, collard green eating baby. He might get a little Thai barbecue every night. There's mama feel all right. You look tired. I like a little Thai food. Too. It's a nice Thai restaurant. They're in Brooklyn on Wednesday, on 7th and Lincoln. Plates, good Thai restaurant. If you just got Tiger Woods thoughts, you want to get some good Thai food, they got good food, good vegetables, good everything. So you might get a little Thai food every now and then. But the crackers just see him as a [ __ ]. You've heard me say before, no matter what you do to the white man, no matter what you do in his presence, you still a [ __ ]. OJ Simpson, all the money, run football, take nothing. Crackers on his back and carried a coach or the opposite team and run a touchdown, slam the football down. And all 13 of the peckerwoods in the end zone. He's still a [ __ ]. The [ __ ] went to Atlanta to run for president. Alan Keyes, that's his name. Running for the Republican Party. Come on. He wanted the Democrats. Ain't no damn good. Neither one of them. We need freedom and independence, a nation of our own. Separation is the only solution. Don't you let nobody get on these televisions making these fancy speeches, telling you that, well, separation is, you know, is the last resort. And you know, if we can't do this, and if we can't do that, then we will lose. Consider separation. God has ordained separation. And the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad does not say "if we can't." He says "since we can't." In case you don't understand this peckerwood language, there's a big difference in the preposition "if" and "since." "Since" is a foregone conclusion. "Since" ends the conversation. "Since" said we've been through all the BS and all the rest, and now we are wise and otherwise, and we ain't got to go through it no more. "Since" means everything to be done has already been done. "Since" means we know you, and we know you, and we know you, and we know that you are absolutely disagreeable to get along with in peace, and that no one has been.

able to along with you, white man, in peace anywhere on the face of the planet Earth. So, since we can't get along with you, God's messenger and Warner in our midst, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, says that this is the time for the separation. He said, of the black man and woman from the white man. In one, he said, this is the best and only solution. This is the best. If he would have stopped right there, you might have a case. Johnnie Cochran could come in and interview me and could probably win the case for you. He can proudly win, fight. But he said, this is the best and only solution. Case closed. I'm for separation. I'm a separatist. Ain't like these nuts is coming up every week. These cracker nuts, just some crackers in Texas and took two hostages. And you got them, what you got? The militia and the, what you got? This other group, two Freeman, these cats of with the Republic of Texas. Then you had the cracker heaven, what's the gate? Heaven's Gate. What was the cracker's name? Applewhite. See that damn white Apple. Applewhite. Take all them fools and they all died. They met a [ __ ] in there. It was not a black man. I said, [ __ ]. I make a distinction between [ __ ], negro, colored, and African and black. One day I'll come and teach on all of those. The difference in in Africa, the difference in black, the difference in colored, the difference in, did it, what I say, African, colored, black, Negro, [ __ ]. The difference in all of them. All of is a difference. Applewhite. They look at a comet, see any clips of the moon and just go buckwild and say, all that stuff happening. This is it. Now, here we are, reading about the peckerwood, watching him on TV and hidden to all them people. Jim Jones took all them people down. So I'm not telling some nut. The white man is a, is a nut and has built the most powerful, savage, uncivilized, wicked nation in the history of the world, based on the principle of separation. Separated from the British Empire, huh? Separated from King George, right? George Washington, Patrick Henry, Paul Revere, Ben Franklin, John Adams and the boys. They call the Minutemen. I don't know why they call him the mini-me. That's between them and their wives. I, you know, get into that. That's all right. This is Queens, y'all. Take a little longer. That's because you have to think of it, you know, just jump out there. You, you think of it. That clean it out sufficiently. I mean, I heard the different levels of laughter. I heard laughter and somebody steal food. I didn't. I said, oh, that's what. Ha ha ha ha. Yes. Somebody else say, with everybody laughing, you had that third T of laughter. Ha ha ha ha. They try to really join in with all of the first two, like you understood from the very beginning. Some of y'all still doing this day. When it's over, come up to me and I'll for you to decide and whisper to you what I mean when I say that. I won't get involved in that. Why their wives call them the Minutemen? But really, they call him a Minuteman because of their quick response. And then I'm no in Dedham, and I'm in a minute. Now, I'm really in a minute. They would respond to defend the colonies against the onslaught of the British Empire, which was so vast and so powerful at that time, until they say the Sun never set on it. These are important meetings we have. These are important meetings. And as you are on these videos, years from now, these videos will be played. There's some of the young, young, young ones in here. You'd be looking at these videos one day, say, look at me. What's your name? What's his name? Hi, sir. Brother Courtney. Look at Brother Courtney. He had his video one day. His wife would be laughing at him. It's why we said, that's you, Courtney. He said, yeah, baby, that's me. Say, you know, I don't, where Courtney know me? I'm, you know, I don't, where Courtney know. Well, you know, I'm King Song, Song, Song. So, uh, you'll have some powerful African name, and she'll have some powerful African name. But he'll be looking at this. He'll be looking at this video from D&J here tonight. These are important sessions that we're having for the on with movement and advancement, the level of consciousness and culture and spirituality of our people. Dr. Maulana Karenga has taught us that black is color, culture, consciousness. And with his permission, I have added that black is color, culture, consciousness, and a corresponding spiritual and cosmic connection. Thank you. How Salam alayka. Hotel. We'll take a few questions. You cannot separate the spiritual from the material. The spiritual and the material are interdependent. We would not even know that the spiritual existed unless there was some material manifestation to manifest the spiritual through, right? We would not know that the material had any power unless there was spirituality to move the physical or the material. So spiritual and material are dependent upon each other. Are there any questions? Yes, sir. We can take just one or two questions. It's just 9:30. We'd be out of here in a minute. Everybody cool? I'm tomorrow night at the, it's dirty. It's not tomorrow night. We're at, where? African Portrait Theatre. How many know what African Portrait Theatre is? And they didn't give me religion versus spirituality. What are they giving? Oh, yeah. That's knock-down-drag-out. There that's Thursday night at 7:00. What's the address? Anybody know? 176 Oh 3 Jump Maker Avenue. Can't miss it. Thursday night, 7 o'clock. Yes, sir. I don't get the invitations anymore. You know, I think Gary Bird is scared of me. I think I'm just a little too, it's too much. I don't know that because I use, well, I mean, I don't get an invitation. I used to be on all the time. Bird, I'm gonna say this Thursday night too. If he's sitting in ours, I'm gonna say, are you scared of me? Brother, in hotel, what's happening? Why I don't get an invitation anymore? After the president came out against me, the vice president, the Senate, the Congress, Jesse Jackson, crazy and fumet, Ben Chavez, what's his name? Bill Gray. Then my spiritual father suspended me from position, his and the position as his spokesman and assistant and all that controversy started. Him hotep said, hotel. [Laughter] See, that's what y'all like. See, see. So ask him when you send, so why you never have it on anymore? Say, give me anybody. Take my number. Everybody take my number. So you can say, well, I don't have his number. So here's his number. He made 2 1 2 3 3 0 9 3 3 8. He calls me all the time just to check on me. He called me a few days ago, said, I haven't heard from you, brother. I've been in Europe, sneaked across the border in Canada because I'm banned in Canada. We trying to get something going up there. All throughout this band in Canada, all throughout the South. We almost got arrested a few days ago in D.C. because we have a band from coward joonie versity. And my one of my top students, attorney Malik Zulu Shabazz, who is a graduate of Howard University and the Howard University Law School, was arrested week before last, just for passing out flyers on the campus where he graduated from. He's banned from the campus. I'm banned. So we went to challenge the ban last week. Police everywhere, helicopter. We went on the campus to all of the top administrators came out. The students came out and cheered us. And one or two students attempted to challenge us, said that we weren't welcome at Howard, that it affected scholarships when we come to campus, and it aspect, it affected the university's funding. And you know, the Jews came on the news that evening. Howard University has a white imposter Jew as the spokesman for this black university. He came on and spoke for the university against us that evening. I mean, it was real silly for them to use this cracker, but they used him. Then, you know, I've been doing some work with December 12th Movement, my brother Cole Tranching Marengo, sister Viola Plummer. And I've got to do something while I'm here to try and help his much as I can on the freeing of the great revolutionary brother Abdul Haq. And I was just contacted by sister, mother, brother Limerick Nelson. We're doing a fundraiser for brother Limerick Nelson. I think it's the 17th of this month. Then I have to be over, I think it's the 14th, over in Philly with sister Ramona Africa and the Africa family of MOVE. The no dealing with the what we call the outrage on Osage when they burned down, killed all of many of the MOVE family and the Africa family of the MOVE organization and imprisoned the others. And sister Ramona just got out. And they got some little settlement. That somebody grows are criticizing her because they got a little settlement. She lost a whole family in that fire and in that bomb. And that little, little money they gave her, she deserves that and much, much more. And none of it will bring back her family. You've got some Negroes criticizing her for receiving the little money. And I want to go and be with them on Osage Avenue. Then there's another radical group in Philadelphia that's that's in Philly in Philadelphia who was very upset when the black mother and the two little, little brothers were beat so badly by these 50 crackers or so in Philadelphia. And you know, there's some real radical elements there who want me to come in and deal with that. So just quickly, so I was just saying, so I haven't been here a lot. I haven't been home in New York, you know, over a month. And just trying to organize all over the country and working with the new Black Panther Party and trying to rebuild the new Black Panther Party. Means some of you saw us on some of the national network, CNN, NBC, CBS, when we went down all of the guns when they were burning the black churches down in Texas. We went in and took over some towns. It was a good feeling, you know, I mean, I can't lie to you. It's one of the best feelings in my life. I'm getting criticism and flak from some people. Some Muslims are criticizing, you should be downtown. I'd rather be down there with guns than not. So don't criticize me about guns. I believe in guns. I believe that I should go after my enemy with my god and with my gun. If a million men showed up in D.C. with guns, like man, that's what I told him. You better listen to Minister Farrakhan because you got might have a million black men in the wings if you don't listen to him, that's ready to make a move on you like that. All me, no little piece shooters. And there are many black men and black women who trained in all of the white man's armies and militaries and all of his campaigns of war all over the world. And they know his weapons. They know his computerized stuff. They know his sophisticated and smart stuff and his maneuvers and tactics. Let me finish with breath, right? I have been before, but it's the first time I could get that many Muslims from our nation. If I'm in the city, I'll be there. Oh, is that right? Oh, May 19th. All right, hold on. Brother Malcolm's birthday. That's a blessing. So it is well. May is the birth month of Malcolm. May 19th. May 29th. And we have to do something this year. May 29th is the anniversary of my assassination attempt. Malcolm born in that month, and they tried to take me out in that month. And this year, we have to have something. I can't keep letting that day go by because Malcolm did not get this opportunity. After Sunday, February 21st, 1965, at the Audubon Auditorium, he didn't get the opportunity to come and speak on religion versus spirituality or whatever. He didn't get that opportunity. Of course, we are still enriched. Malcolm made some mistakes. All of us do. But we are enriched by the life of Malcolm in many ways, more than we probably, most of us, even realize. So to be blessed to still be here after being shot, 9-millimeter and four or five rounds shot in the chest and shoulder, took all of the first bullets for me. X Crips and X Bloods, who were true sin, taking off the red and the blue, wearing black all around me. And a 30-06 rifle where the scope was found. So May 29th is very special to me. And of course, May 19th is special to me. And I'm gonna try to do something this year to commemorate and thank the only way God, I ancestors say in some for for still being you, our lives, we're still being here. Yes, sir. Okay. Masaya actually means to be washed clean or white clean. Messiah is a savior that is raised up among the people to redeem the people. In one part of Africa, we call such one, some considered a cultural term, some considered a spiritual, spiritual term, some considered a cultural, spiritual, or political term. Kwame Nkrumah was called asaji fo. O Saji fo. Kwame Nkrumah. Asaji fo really has an extended, greater, deeper meaning, which means the Redeemer of the people. One who comes to redeem the people. The Messiah comes to wipe or wash the people clean and to free the people from the clutches of Satan or the clutches of the world. Christ means to be crystallized. Christ means also the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches, as I was taught by the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, that Christ means the crusher. Not only one who crystallizes, but the crusher, one who comes to crush the rule of the wicked and to crystallize the people into oneness with God. The Mahdi, Mahdi, is a Muslim term. The Mahdi, it is said, is to come. And the Mahdi is to break the cross, is to break the cross, kill the swine, destroy tyranny, and set judgment in the earth. Technically, there are those who say there is a difference in the Mahdi and the Messiah. Some say that the Mahdi and the Messiah would be here at the same time. Well, that could mean two things. It means that the power of the Messiah would be in one, and the power of the Mahdi would be in another. Or when you say they would be here same time, it could mean that it would be in the same person. When I made one of my sacred pilgrimages to the holy city of Mecca, and outside of Mecca to Medina, at the what is called the Masjid al-Nabī, the Prophet's Mosque, there is supposed to be the tomb of Jesus, the Messiah. And it is left empty. You have others buried, golden doors, but the tomb for Jesus is left empty in the Islamic world in Medina because it is believed that the, that the Messiah would return with the Mahdi and be present at the same time as the Mahdi. And when the Messiah is to be buried, they say that he would be buried in that particular tomb. I don't know if they'll be buried there or not, but that's the belief. So Mahdi, as I just mentioned to you, those are the things they say of D'Amato. Technically, they have similar work in some instances. It is talking about different aspects of the same work by the same man. In other, according to other terms of reasoning, it represents the work of two different ones. But it's just like we were saying earlier about God. Different nations in different tongues and languages talking about the same one God. Call that same one God by different names, but they're talking about the same power and force of the universe. Other nations have messiahs, saviors. Kūrsī Graves, in his book *16 Crucified Saviors*, on Christianity Before Christ, I'm sure they haven't here. What's brother's name? Too only brother David. I'm sure he probably has Kūrsī Graves' book, *16 Crucified Saviors*, or *Christianity Before Christ*. I just debated at the same university and had an opportunity to rebut their arguments of Dr. Mary Left Left for which, who wrote the book. I called, I called a Left of bids, Left her which, who wrote the book, *Not Out of Africa*. She says that Dr. Ben, Dr. Dr. Clark, she says Dr. Maleficent, Dr. Jeffries, Dr. Karenga, Dr. Shake Out the Diop, Dr. George DM James, she said that all of them, that their works are not history at all. They have no historical value whatsoever. So she wrote the book, as I said, *Not Out of Africa*. How Afrocentric became an excuse to teach myth as history. So she was at San Diego State. I had just spoken in San Francisco State to all of the black, they had their big conference in San Francisco State of all of the black student leaders from the Black Student Unions, African Student Unions, past Sues, pad African Student Unions. So I got to speak to all of the heads there in California at San Francisco State. Then I left to go to San Diego City and speak earlier in the day, then San Diego State later that night. So the students, the white faculty brought Mary Laffer Ritchie to speak on *Not Out of Africa*. The black students brought me in to speak on *Not Out of Europe*. And so my subject was *Not Out of Europe, Too Black, Too Strong*. And you got to get that tape. This is to get to act. I could, I believe the debates have to be that way. The debate can't be a draw. The people can't be wondering about their belief. Well, he didn't go into decisive. No, when the people need a debate, they gotta feel like you crushed me in it. Did you just wipe the enemy out? Don't take no prisoners. You know, you kill the enemy, then burn the enemy, you know, then boil the ashes, then flush their ass ashes down the commode. 12th Imam. In the Islamic world, the talk, and I'd like to teach her a lecture on that, and it's a beautiful, beautiful subject. The Islamic world talks about the 12th Imam. That's in a positive sense. And in the Hebrew world, I'm just mixing these just for second, talks about the 12th tribe. But that's something else on the 12th tribe. But I want to put that out there. The 12th Imam. The Muslims talk of the power that the 12th Imam would have during the period of this, of what is called the Sahabas, or the companions of Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him, after his departure. And the Caliphate was set up. First Caliph was Abu Bakr, the second was Umar, and Uthman, then Ali and his sons, Hasan and Husayn, tried to avenge the family, tried to avenge his death, and ultimately they were killed in various ways. This 12th Imam is supposed to assure in a certain reign of power that is rooted in divine and is supposed to, some schools say, is supposed to be able to unite the tribes of Islam, or the different beliefs of Islam, because there's so many schools of thought and no central leadership. Some say, mostly critics, in another way say that this 12th Imam will further, will further create a schism and again, and that there would be great bloodshed around surrounding this 12th Imam. Either way, no matter what school you believe from, it could be great bloodshed. Even if he's bringing them all together, that could be great bloodshed. If he's not, that could be great bloodshed. But in general, this is the history of the Christ, the Messiah, the Christ, and what is said by different schools of thought and the 12th Imam. Whatever you want. What so up? This is a good question. It's on the minds and hearts of a lot of the people here, I'm sure. Malcolm did survive. Malcolm is more alive today than he was when he was physically alive, in a sense, in a great sense. Malcolm's speeches everywhere. Malcolm's words of being meditated on and acted on by many all over the world. Malcolm did not have the great prominence during his lifetime that he has in his physical absence from among us. So his spirit is still alive among us. Back to spirituality. In Yoruba culture, we talk about the egún and the egún, or the egúngún, represents the spiritual nature of our ancestors. And the Holy Quran teaches, "Speak not of the righteous as being dead, for they are not there, but you perceive not." And in African thought and practice and culture, we don't believe that certain of my ancestors died. We believe that the egúngún lives on. And we believe that when we leave this plane of life, we join the realm of the ancestors. We, after we reach, some of us don't reach the elder state. Some of us die before we reach elder state. But if we go through the full cycle of life, cycle of life, we from elder, we move to the egúngún or to the ancestors. That's how a spiritual belief. So we don't look on, in African culture, we don't look on what it's called death in the same way that the white European looks on death. We see death differently. Now, that's hard for us because we've been trained by a foster parent who is the devil. So we have his concept of death. So it's horrifying to all of us to lose, as we even use the term for, in general, we mean losing their physical presence and seeing it. Let me get right back to what you're saying. Direction. You asked, what is my direction? Well, at this point in my life, you know, when Malcolm was no longer with the Nation of Islam, he started the Muslim Mosque Incorporated, which was a religious organization, basically. And from the Muslim Mosque Incorporated, he realized that he couldn't get as many black people or reach as many black people as he would like to reach from the Muslim Mosque Incorporated. It was too religiously confining. And that were Christians who would not join. There were those who didn't believe in no God at all, who wouldn't join, who wouldn't even come around. And we could help their spirituality, we could teach them if we could reach them. But if they didn't come around, as nothing we could do, you know, there's nothing we can do. If we can't reach him, we can't teach him. Malcolm, I think, realized that 30-something years ago. So he started the OAA, you similar to the OAU, based in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, the Organization of African Unity. He called it the Organization of African American Unity. It was the building, an attempt at building an African United Front, a black United Front that would transcend religion, transcend political ideology, transcend doctrine, and all of it would transcend doctrinal beliefs and try to ultimately ease everybody together. And as Malcolm said, accept black nationalism as their going and philosophy. I still consider myself almost sounds just like him saying that. I still can set how much sit of myself a Muslim here. Who Malcolm said, I still consider myself a Muslim. And I still credit Minister Farrakhan for what I am and who I am and what I am becoming. Malcolm said to say, where is about to? I realize you were home. And that's true. It's true. I still see Minister Farrakhan as my. I still open up. I mean, I just can't get away from it. I don't care where I am. I don't care how upset I am with him. Upset with him. Then I'm right. I'm upset with it. I have her. I get upset with God sometimes. Not going to ruin. Say, look, we got to talk. If you've got a good relationship with God, you ought to be able to talk to God, huh? You guys say, look, now, yo, what are you doing? You do me like this? What is this? You know? And there's the old folks. They have mercy. You gotta talk to God. So if I've talked to God and questioned God, Minister Farrakhan taught me that way. I got to question my spiritual father. If I see him do something that doesn't seem right, I got to question that. I have a right to question that. I was always taught in Islam that the Christian church and the preacher didn't want you to question nothing. I've heard many Muslim ministers say that the preachers say, oh, don't, don't, don't, don't question the Word of God. God didn't mean for men to know everything. Don't wash to God. But I was taught in the Nation of Islam, question everything. Question everybody. Ask questions and find out all about yourself and find out about whatever it is you asking and find out all you can about the one you asking about. So if I see my spiritual father, I can't get away from calling me my spiritual father because though the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, is the one who laid that foundation. I never met the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I stood on a guard on the porch of the palace once, one big crack soldier. But I went, he was this close, but I couldn't. Somebody was standing in my way. So the soldier leaning, just a little small to be right in line with everybody, a little bit so I could get a glimpse of him. But I've never met him. I never even shook his hand. So the spiritual father of my faith and my revolutionary zeal, yes, it comes from God Almighty to begin with, and lighted be and herald and carry and a van. It comes from them, yes. But the man who shaped me and molded me and fashioned me is Minister Louis Farrakhan. Do I still love him? Yes. Am I angry with him? As I said earlier, you damn right. I think I can't imagine what's going on. I don't know what's happening. I can't understand. I thought I would be with the Nation of Islam my whole life. I would never imagine being out, kicked to the curb, dogged when I was shot. Not one word. Who said I'm minister? [ __ ]. You never had a speech on it. He never had a press conference on it. He never said a public word about it. Nothing was ever said. Not one word. I've had a chance to say what I'm saying to you to him face to face. It took me three years, almost three and a half years, to get the serious meeting that I had with him just before the so-called World Day of Atonement. After Union. Why do I say so-called? Say, goddamn it, if you can atone with the whole world, you can't atone with me. You can have a [ __ ] like Ben Chavis. What's his claim to fame? Trying to steal 80 to 300 thousand dollars to buy some woman sex. We just got to read the book upstairs. You can get it on your way out. Look at it about a white so-called Jew, awesome ejidos prophet of rage. He gives you the transcript of Ben Chavis's 11th defects to Abraham Foxman, the so-called Jew of the ADL over in New Jersey. That's Sunday in January of '94, when they put the full page against me in the Jew York Times. The first at the phone ring, Ben Chavis is the first one to call Abraham Foxman on the phone, thanking him for condemning me in the New York Times. Then he's eating cheese and buck dancing, telling Foxman, I'm speaking at the Smithsonian Institution this eve, Institute, there's your evening, and I'm faxing you a copy of my speech condemning Colin tonight. You got to buck dance for the Jew. You calling the damn Jew. That's collaboration with the enemy. I call it what it is. All right. I can't do that. But die, it would be foolish to kill me. To kill me, my strong, uncompromising, revolutionary, unyielding, unbending position, to make me a martyr would be a hell of a mistake. It would override and overcome all this weak stuff that's out here. More in my death than in my life. Because then people will hold on to you, every word, study everything, read everything about you. Then the questions about who killed Malcolm would be more, would be more on the minds of the people after Colin is killed than it has been, probably during the latter part of this last 30 years. So what I have attempted to do is to travel this country and Europe, throughout Africa, East Coast, West Coast, here, the South, so-called Midwest, here in the country, trying to build an African United Front, hold on to the teachings that I have been given, draw from the best of it, stand on the strong foundation and platform that was given to me by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. And as I move, move according to the way God and the spirit guides me, which is what Minister Farrakhan is doing in the absence of his teacher. There are things that he has decided to do that his teacher did not do. I can't criticize because now, in the absence of his teacher, he stands on the foundation that his teacher left. But with his teacher not here, he has to move according to circumstances and situations, according to the way he feels and the way he's guided. So now that I don't have my father, spiritual father, Minister Farrakhan, right there anymore, I have to make decisions on my own. I don't want to go out a punk. I don't want to go out weak. I intend to die the death of a revolution. I intend to die the death of a freedom fighter. That's the only way to go. I don't intend to capitulate. I don't intend to water down a damn thing. Somebody has to hold the line. That's what my teacher, who was my captain, top, he's gone on to the ancestors now. Captain Ali Rashi, he taught me, taught all of us, hold the line. That's what he always used to say. Hold on. I've got the whole new life. I got to hold the line now. Quarterback, and do whatever you want to do. The end can do whatever you want to do. But I'm gonna hold the line. Ain't nothing coming through. I'm holding the line and I'm not backing up. And if the crackers team is on the field, if his offense is working, I'm blitzing, blitzing like a hard-nosed linebacker. That's the only thing I can do to answer your question in terms of my. I've written Minister Farrakhan. I've called him. That's the end of the day, man. How do we have one tape? Oh, gonna say now, this tape is gonna get kind of controversial. People gonna be getting it. Let me take it to the mosque. I wanted to hear this tape. Well, you know what? To take the tape, tell the mosques to invite me. I'll come and raise these questions at the month. For me not to be permitted in any mosque in the country. I used to be the minister here at number seven. The minister came and installed me, Minister Farrakhan, as the minister here. Some of you were there. Some of you got the tape. He said, I offer to you the best minister that we have in the Nation of Israel. He said, I don't know another more skilled in debate, that more knowledgeable of the teachings that are belies mommy went on. So he's knowledgeable of the 5%? He's knowledgeable of the Hebrew? He's knowledgeable of the politics? Sunni Islam? Know this of that of so. He went on. He said, he's supremely intelligent. He's his words. Maybe the minister. He, I went to my number seven Allah. He was with me. We went to two number seven. And I think I was in there five minutes. I sat down, got checked, and set down. It hurt me so badly. Five minutes later, lieutenant is touching me on the shoulder. I'm being ushered back to the check room. And then regional captain said, you know, we just talked to headquarters, Chicago. And they said, you were not permitted in any mosque in the Nation of Islam until you administer Farrakhan can talk further. I spoke at the World Day of Atonement at the UN. Everybody was just as happy. I was happy too. I ran into Minister Farrakhan at a funeral in Chicago. Brother Amir, brother on the gurney died. He was very close to me when I was the supreme captain, when I was national spokesman, but in particular, when I was supreme captain. So I went to his funeral and bumped into Minister Farrakhan at the funeral. That's how I got to see him. And I had a chance to sit with him and raise all the questions I've had on my mind for the past three years. And with no disrespect, unless just asking was disrespectful, but my tone certainly wasn't disrespectful. My manner wasn't disrespectful. I don't know how to be that way with him. But I questioned him on everything I could question. He told me the next time we met, which would be just before the UN, on somewhere around that time, give a damn saw my question. I ended up that hasn't happened. And before that, I called out of how many times over the years. An appointment would be set, and then it would be changed. No new one would be set. I would keep trying. I'd give up for a while, get hurt for a while, get mad for a while, to try back again. Get another appointment. When that one would come, it would be canceled. Now, some of you say, and I don't give a damn what you say. And for those of you who will go back and tell your little friends, and some of you who will go to the mosque, maybe nobody in here is like that. But Khalid, no, he lied on the ministry. He already got to do. Just go see them. Even wanted to get to the middle. Sneak. Well, let me say this, goddamn it. The minister has much more power than I do. And by the same token, that you say, if Khalid really wanted to get with the minister, he could get with the minister. It is a million times more important to me to say, and certainly much more of the truth to say, if Minister Farrakhan wanted to talk to me, it would be just as easy, not even even, but almost snapping his finger, but he'd call me at 3 o'clock in the morning. I'm gonna find a way to get there anytime. But for some reason, he has not called me. And right after the World Day of Atonement, as they call it, after you, and different Muslim ministers start inviting me to do events in their city. They thought everything was cool. Headquarters in Chicago said, cancel my TV. Can't bring comedy into your city. They said, we saw him at the World Day of Atonement. We, somebody said, in New Jersey, at the Newark Mosque, they said, to believe was saying, with we saw him. They were told, don't you believe what your eyes with your eyes saw. I'm supposed to be debate this devil on May 3rd. What's today's day? Turn in May 3rd. I debate this devil in Los Angeles. A big thing in LA. I'm debating this devil, Anthony Hildur. Anybody know Anthony Hilton? This the devil has got a lot of videos out of Millennium 2000, 666, the mark of the beast, the new world order. And then Illuminati. Another student that I worked with and trained in Atlanta, Minister Tony Muhammad, is the minister in LA now. He was given orders by headquarters. And he had a big hold over meeting just a few days ago in LA. Two brothers in LA were working the tickets. The tickets were being sold at their bookstore. But they were told they couldn't handle anything. They couldn't deal with the event. None of the Muslims could attend the event. I talked to brother, what's the owner of the bookstore there? Brother David. He said he talked to the Muslims who meet here. I think they have a study group here. And he had invited them out. And he just told me that he's, I said, not me. You can't come out. We can't come in. Some of them, most of them love me. But it's just a question. I haven't been put in bad standing officially. I haven't been, I'm not in good standing officially. I haven't been put out, but I'm not in. I've had no hearing. I've had no trial. No official charges have been brought against me. I keep asking, charge me with something. Give me an official hearing and trial and charge me with something. Even the devil will charge you. Give you your damn time. Oughta gas chamber or the electric chair or lethal injection or whatever. I just want to, whatever it is, charge me. King College. Ain't figured out what happened yet. I don't understand that. I fought those devils and defeated all of them and taught the damn world defending my leader and teacher. They call him for his death outside of the auditorium at Keene College while I'm speaking inside. I'm with Newark. Newark, hang on. Roll with me. When I was in LA, they were calling for the minister's death outside of the Los Angeles Convention Center. That's my posse. We went outside, knocked the hell out of the Jews and ran their behinds down the street. So I'm a dwarf from the podium at King College and I get to spinning. I don't understand. Well, the minister told you about your language and you know that you should look. I'm at war. Call him for the death of my leader. What am I supposed to say? You guys shouldn't do that. Don't say that about the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. God won't like that. I said, you no good bastards. I talked about the Pope. I don't have no respect for the Pope. You can't make me respect the Pope. I'm not getting on no TV shows talking in a way that'll make you think the Pope is all right. He's not only the Pope of Rome, he's the punk of Rome. He's an impostor. So what he's the Vicar of Christ? He's not the Vicar of Christ. Some homosexuals sitting up there, some old freakish man. We don't know what's under that damn robe. You might find out that the Pope is really Mother Superior. When you're fighting the enemy, you're not polite with the enemy. There are certain diplomatic moments when enemies give respect to each other, but other times it's psychological warfare. It's physical warfare. It's warfare on every plane. I'm at war. So I have no special way except on the special circumstances to deal with the enemy. We have two more, three more. Well, I came here by myself. I go everywhere that I have to go by myself. These brothers came and secured me. They were trying to round up as many as they could from Jersey and bring them over. So I, an hour before they got here, I was, and I appreciate the, the group of brothers and sisters that they brought with them. But when I got out of the car, brother Celine's, I came, I just flew in, landed at the Newark Airport, rented a car, drove straight here. And he said, by the way, your security, God is sufficient. What's that cracker's name? Reagan. Had the best security money can buy. The Pope, best security money can buy. And still got shot. Security can't save you. Only God can save. That's all. I'll kill your damn security and kill you, and then kill the doctor that come to work on you. So I mean, I mean, that might sound foolish to someone. You still gotta be so cute. I can't go and hide. I got a work to do. If any of you stand with me, did I got security? If you never stand with me, I'm not gonna stop because you don't stand with me. I stand alone and continue to do what I got to do. Many just like forums, just want some speech making, wanna commit themselves to nothing. And some fear for their lives, scared to death. I've had sisters in my latter years, quest for life. I've had sisters to say, she want me to die with you. Sister said that to me. She said, you want me to die with you? I'm not gonna die with you. That's what she said to me. As God is my witness, exact words. I'm not gonna die with you. Don't you want one of us to live? That's hard. I mean, I came even as Tupac was a man with her. Okay, I wanted to live. She would on. She's Afrocentric. She's all of that. But and she was there for me when I got shot, packing pistols and everything. But when the real deal came down, she said, hey, I'm sorry. I'm gonna plus too many other things. All of the friction and stuff that come from that that has bothered you and bothered it. I'm gone. Do you want me to die with you? I had another sister. I'm just dropping that. I ain't gonna tell you no names. Let you all off into my business. This is some time back. And I was, these are the seasons singer. She was all excited about me and stuff. And I thought we were going to dinner. And I called her for dinner. Somebody, you know, I really was. Somebody told her who I really was. As God is my witness, she said, but if I go out with you, I might get shot. As God is my witness, she said, I might get shot. So I don't fear for my life. I catch the train. I drive. I catch the plane. I walk in a school by myself. And students come up out of the audience and different people that secure me. And brother Celine and as these brothers have come in tonight, Minister Craig and brother Carlos, brother Ja Ja Ja and brother Me and brother Hockey Hill, I know very well, and others. They came. But I mean, now I can't stay home. Say, well, I ain't got no security. I don't know who's gonna secure me at the Anthony Hill do a debate on whether you devil out in LA. And that's where I almost got killed in LA. And that's where Biggie Smalls got killed on the West Coast. That's where Tupac got killed on the West Coast. You know, I don't feel that be a dad for what they're probably scared of me. Death. Probably is good. Yes, sir. We almost feel it. Oh, yes. I met with brother Kwame a week or so ago in San Francisco. And that's what he wanted to talk to me about was the new Black Panther Party. Give me advice and counsel on the party because he was really one of the founders. You know, history says Huey and Bobby, but it was really, it was really out of brother Kwame Toure and others out of the Lyons County, that political party down the Lyons County down in the South, that had the symbol to the Panther. And then it was brought up to the Bay Area. And so he was telling me all of the things that happening, filling me in, just giving me good counsel and advice. Brother Kwame is one of the few. Brother Kwame is one of the few who, well, you told that like you Tana crackers head open. Don't nobody stand with me. I won't be wrong with me, right? One of the few who has not punked out and has not given up. Even with prostate cancer, he's standing strong and tall. I think his prostate, I know it's cancer. You can call him at 3 o'clock in the morning. He answers the phone, ready for the revolution. That's right. Now, he hasn't let up. Still on the move. I'm working with brother Aaron Michaels, the young brother in Dallas, Texas. He came to my side after my assassination attempt. But after I left LA, when I left the hospital, I went to another friend's house, brother Shaheed. He really hurt me because he never stood guard. I stood post for a second, the whole time I was there. So one day, I just disappeared out of that. I couldn't walk. And I got out of that. This is the student I was telling you about. The one you want me to die with you. They would err. They had their guns and everything. They said, she said, then at that time, we don't know who this assassination attempt came from. So we got to watch everybody. And so we got out of there. And another brother named Steve Washington took me into Dallas. And he had three or four safe houses set up for me. Every day, I might go to one house, let everybody see me go in the front, don't go out the back door. Five minutes later, twenty minutes later, by going the front door and crawl out the window, one o'clock in the morning, and go to another safe house. Just changing places. I did that for a long time. But I didn't know. I couldn't trust nobody except that immediately. Brother Steve Coakley came in, stayed with me in the house. And Dr. Sims, who's gone on to the ancestors now, and a few others. But that's been where brother Aaron Michaels came around me in Dallas. And they came around me with all kinds of weapons. If anybody come to kill me now, I want to make sure that we can answer back. They said, you don't believe in our life. If you believe that our law, you wouldn't, you wouldn't have. You believe in the God? Said, no, I believe in Allah, and I believe in the gun. And I pray that he'll bless me to shoot straight when it's time to shoot. So that's when I got with brother Aaron Michaels and the new Black Panther Party way back around my assassination attempt. That relationship has grown. And I was able to organize them and start moving to the areas. Whether it's black churches were being burned, we patrol black communities. We stood guard at some of the churches. Yes, we, we are, we were giving respect to the houses of worship. But we also hoping we get some practice. One of our dreams was to catch one of the clans. One of my dreams is to catch one of them and give me one of them hoods for hoods, the head is anyway, get the head out of it. In Washington, Washington, get off the blood out of it. Later on, but I want to hang him on my wall. I'm thinking about, I'm working on this new brownstone in Harlem and the strivers room. And if I can't have a real white man's head on my wall, says that's supposed to against white law, I'm gonna find reasonable facsimile. I can't, you know, people hanging deer on the wall. So I want a white man's head hung on. I'll get a painting. But I want to actually, I want to go to one of these costume shops or something. I want a white man's head hanging on my wall. Yeah, I can go to somebody in Hollywood shops and get a head that look real, just like the deer ain't living no more, lying this on the wall, ain't living no more. But that's what I want. A white man's head. I live. I might have open house when I get the house up here. Yeah, I can see all my African art and everything. But I got to have a white man's head hanging on my wall. My brother, the meant that for me. My speaking here tonight and speaking at the African porch with it and all that. I had to pay my own way to get here, rent the car, do everything. But I haven't been home in so long. I can't go everywhere and don't do nothing at home. And everybody, brother area is on my case all the time. Brother, when are you coming back? I get those messages from it. So we need to raise some money. We have, how many questions? I can't work for no devil. I'm not gonna lie to you and tell you it's gonna be for this, so that paid over 400 dollars just one way to get here. And then rented the car. Couldn't drive to my car here. I just didn't have enough notice to try. That's a long drive. I think I drive it back and forth frequently. So we need your assistance in raising some significant or major money. Don't you don't have but a dollar, give it. But we need some hundreds, some 50s, some good checks, and anything close to that. All right, sir. You can catch brother on his way up. One of them baskets. All right. He left with brother I kill like it. Ave. I'm just easy arrest. That's the way to preach. You do it. Brother I kill has brother's donation in the back. So what are the two questions that for us, brother? Okay, sister. Well, thanks a lot. I'll come back to you, brother.