Die Zahl, die Ärzte NICHT laut sagen dürfen (Dr. Hobert)

Ich habe das Gefühl, die Stimmung da draußen ist gekippt. Die Menschen sind zermürbt. Mich haben so viele Nachrichten in den letzten Tagen, Wochen erreicht. Ich würde mal sagen, als dieser Irankonflikt angefangen hat, 150 Stück, ja, die nicht positiv waren. Da schreiben mir Leute: "Simo, ich drehe durch. Simo, was soll ich machen? Simo, überall Ungerechtigkeit." Das ist ja so ein kollektiver Erschöpfungszustand, der da gerade stattfindet.

Wir wissen, dass nur 10% der Medikamente überhaupt die Wirkung haben, die wir von ihnen erhoffen. 200.000 Todesfälle nur durch Nebenwirkung von Medikamenten Jahr für Jahr. Habe ich gesagt: "Leute, das ist alles, was ihr zu bieten habt in der Medizin." Das schwarnte mir schon so nach dem Studium, und das kann doch nicht wahr sein, dass unsere Weltmedizin nicht mehr zu bieten hat, als das, was ihr jetzt hier in den 50 Jahren hervorgebracht habt.

Die meisten Patienten haben heute einen Puls zwischen 75 und 85. Das war vor 10 Jahren, und ich habe 2 Jahre in der Kardiologie gearbeitet, der Puls noch zwischen 60 und 65. Heute sind die Menschen zehn Pulschläge pro Minute höher getaktet. Da gibt's ja so eine Lobby, die wirklich über Billionen verfügt, die wirklich nur die Absicht hat: Sei schön vernebelt, sei schön dumm, zahl schön deine Steuern und erwache bloß nicht.

Entweder wachen wir auf und nehmen unser Leben in die Hand und kommen in die Eigenverantwortung, oder du bist übermorgen das Kanonenfutter an irgendeiner Front, bzw. es wird im digitalen Gefängnis enden.

Bevor wir in dieses großartige Gespräch einsteigen, muss ich kurz ehrlich zu euch sein. 89% von euch schauen regelmäßig, ohne diesen Kanal zu abonnieren. Das bricht mir ehrlich gesagt ein bisschen das Herz, weil dieser Kanal nur durch eure Bindung wächst. Wenn du heute nur eine einzige Sache aus diesem Gespräch mitnimmst, die dich 1% besser macht, dann hilf mir, diese Zahl zu drehen. Ein Abo kostet dich nichts, gibt uns aber das Signal, dass wir auf dem richtigen Weg sind. Du bleibst informiert, wir bleiben motiviert. Das ist der fairste Deal im Internet.

Und jetzt zum eigentlichen Grund, warum du heute hier bist. Dr. Ingfrid Hobert. Absolute Ehre heute mit Ihnen zu sprechen. Wir haben ja schon mehrere Gespräche geführt, die zum Teil viral gegangen sind, aber jetzt noch mal so von Angesicht zu Angesicht zum ersten Mal. Das ist dann noch mal ein ganz anderes Gefühl. Schön, dass Sie heute da sind.

Ja, danke für die Einleitung. Bei dem Namen Ingfrid, da waren ja Ihre Eltern sehr, sehr kreativ. Wie soll ich Sie jetzt heute nennen? Dr. Ingfrid Hobert. Ingfrid, ich weiß, dass der Name Ingo irgendwie auch kursiert. Was ist so die beste Ansprache und wie kommt der Name Ingfrid zustande? Weil den habe ich persönlich zum ersten Mal gehört.

Na ja, meine Mutter heißt Ingeburg und mein Vater Winfried. Okay. Und es hätte mich auch mit mit Winburg erwischen können, und so ist der Ingfried raus geworden. Und ja, ich schätze meine Eltern sehr dafür, dass sie da kreativ waren und dass das so alles mitschwingt, weil meine Mutter lebt noch mit 93 Jahren, arbeitet noch ordentlich im Garten und ist so eine alte weise Frau, wie man sich das so kaum besser wünschen kann.

Lebt deine Mama die 93? Ich habe die tatsächlich jetzt deine Mama auf 93 geschätzt, ohne ihr Alter zu kennen. Allein, was du jetzt gerade so von ihr im Vorfeld erzählt hast. Lebt sie bei dir auf dem Grundstück und ist auch aktiv?

Nee, nee, sie lebt in Hessen in dem Haus auf dem Berg und hat einen großen Garten und bewirtschaftet alles und ist ein gutes Beispiel für jemanden, der einfach weise mit dem Leben umgeht und auch arbeitet. Viel im Garten arbeitet, viel draußen ist und immer wieder am Machen und Tun ist.

Mhm. Den Aufschlag finde ich richtig gut, wenn man noch mal zum späteren Zeitpunkt aufgreifen. Ich finde so Selbstwirksamkeit im Leben, würdevolles Altern im Leben so so wichtig und ich finde, wie halt momentan so mit den Alten umgegangen wird, plötzlich Rente, plötzlich Pflegeheim, das ist sowas von würdelos. Da würde ich auch Alzheimer bekommen und plötzlich keinen Bock mehr aufs Leben haben, wenn ich jetzt keine Angehörigen hätte bzw. keine Aufgabe hätte. Wir wünschen auf jeden Fall deiner Mama, wenn sie zuschaut, noch ganz ganz viele weitere Jahre in bester Gesundheit.

Ja, lass uns loslegen. Für mich bist du ein absolutes Unikum. Ja, du erklärst die Welt, du bringst die Weltmedizin nach Deutschland, du schaust Schamanen und Heilern über die Schulter, und das Gute bei dir ist, du erklärst Biochemie so, dass sich ein Zwölfjähriger versteht, aber sich auch ein unlimitierter Medizinprofessor nicht unterfordert fühlt. Das ist eine absolute Superpower. Aber jetzt Butter bei die Fische. Ist unser Körper wirklich so kompliziert, dass wir jedes Jahr ein Bestseller von dir brauchen, oder haben wir einfach verlernt, auf die einfachsten Signale unseres Körpers zu hören?

Na ja, es ist ähm, unser Körper ist einfach ein Wunderwerk. Und ich war als Kind immer fasziniert davon, wenn ich mit meiner Seifenkiste irgendwie gegen eine Mauer gefahren bin, weil die Lenkung wieder nicht richtig funktioniert hat. Dann hatte ich eine kaputte Hose und dann musste ich äh mit meiner Mutter immer nach Kassel fahren, um dann bei C&A mich durch die Gänge schleifen zu lassen, um dann eine neue Kordhose zu bekommen. Und relativ schnell habe ich gemerkt, wenn ich eine kurze Hose anziehe, dann entsteht zwar eine Wunde, aber die Wunde ist sofort wieder verschwunden. Das dauert zwei, drei Tage. Und das hat mich seit der Kindheit fasziniert, dass wir dieses Wunderwerk haben, was so perfekt in sich ist, ist es unvorstellbar.

Das Verrückte ist nur, es ist, ich vergleich es manchmal mit wie mit einem mit einem alten Nokia Handy. Selbst bei den Nokia Handys hatten wir nur 3% der Funktionen beherrscht. Das andere konnten wir gar nicht bedienen. Beim Windows Computer ist heute genauso, beherrschen vielleicht 1% des Ganzen. Wenn wir heute ein modernes Smartphone in der Hand nehmen, in die Hand nehmen, würde ich sagen 0,1% beherrschen wir von den Möglichkeiten. Und so sehe ich das mit dem Körper auch. Es steckt ganz viel Potenzial in uns drin, aber die meisten Menschen laufen in einem Automatismus, in einem Alarmmodus, in einem Alarmzustand. Ihr vegetatives Nervensystem ist überreizt und dann hören sie nicht mehr diese feinen Signale des Körpers, ne? Die feinen Signale, die genau zeigen, wenn etwas aus der Balance, aus dem Gleichgewicht geraten ist. Und das ist etwas, was eigentlich alle Krankheiten gemeinsam haben. Alle Krankheiten zwingen zum Stehenbleiben, ne? Stehenbleiben, innehalten, um wieder Inhalt zu fühlen, um in einer sehr haltlosen Zeit äh ja, wieder inneren Halt zu bekommen, den inneren Anker wiederzufinden. Und da ist unser Körper ein Wunderwerk, das ja wunderbare Möglichkeiten uns zur Führung steht, damit umzugehen.

Mhm. Du hast gerade C&A angesprochen, da war ich tatsächlich früher auch immer einkaufen. Ich habe noch sechs Geschwister, da haben wir uns immer fürs ganze Jahr eingedeckt und das sind auch die Klamotten gewesen, die auch wirklich jahrelang gehalten haben. Jetzt hatte ich ja vorhin diese Schamanen bzw. Heiler angesprochen. Das finde ich hoch interessant, so ein Ethnomediziner zu sein. Schau mal, hier vorne ist ein Buch von Gabor Maté, den ich auch so im, den ich wirklich sehr, sehr schätze, der auch wirklich alles miteinander vereint, weil Ost und West irgendwie miteinander zu zusammenzubringen. Wie darf man sich so eine schamanische Begegnung vorstellen? Das sind ja Leute, die triffst du jetzt nicht beim Latte Macchiato, sondern die triffst du in ganz bestimmten Zeremonien, Anlässen. Wie darf man sich das vorstellen? Was hast du da so alles mitgenommen?

Na ja, es war so, dass ich nach meiner Krankenhauszeit, 5 Jahre Krankenhaus, Kardiologie, Innere Medizin, Notfallmedizin, Notarztwagen fahren, habe ich gesagt: "Leute, das ist alles, was ihr zu bieten habt in der Medizin." Das schwarnte mir schon so nach dem Studium. Äh, und das kann doch nicht wahr sein, dass unsere Weltmedizin nicht mehr zu bieten hat, als das, was ihr jetzt hier in den 50 Jahren hervorgebracht habt. Und so bin ich schon während meines Studiums auf Reisen gegangen. Das sind jetzt über 50, 55 Länder draus geworden, weil ich immer wissen wollte, was haben andere Kulturen hervorgebracht über tausende von Jahren, über Generationen, dass uns heute helfen kann, dieses Leben besser zu meistern. Und Menschen, die noch sehr stark in Kontakt mit der Natur sind, auch sich sehr natürlich ernähren und immer wieder sich ihre Rückzugsräume schaffen, die leben sehr viel glücklicher als Menschen, die extrem viel gelernt, studiert haben und dann noch große akademische Laufbahnen gemacht haben, die sind nicht glücklicher geworden. Das heißt, all das Lernen, vielleicht sogar ein Viertel der Lebenszeit, nur gelernt, nur studiert, trägt nicht unbedingt dazu bei, dass wir deswegen ein gelungeneres Leben führen.

Aber jetzt zuletzt gerade, wir sprachen ja eben über Bali, nicht? Da habe ich Menschen kennengelernt, die einfach herzlich, wirklich authentisch herzlich sind, nachhaltig herzlich, nachhaltig dankbar. Mm. Und das ist das, was die Schamanen oder viele Schamanen, ich rede jetzt nicht von den selbsternannten europäischen Schamanen, ich rede wirklich von denen, die in der Kindheit ausgewählt worden sind, von ihren Eltern und Großeltern, weil sie eben besondere Fähigkeiten mitgebracht haben. Die haben z.B., um es ganz einfach runterzubringen. Die haben beim Blinde Kuh spielen halt immer den Kopf, den Topf sofort gefunden, weil sie mit anderen Augen gesehen haben. Und solche Menschen wurden dann von ihren Eltern und Großeltern besonders geschult, weil sie einen besseren Blick haben für die unsichtbaren Dinge, die uns so verborgen bleiben und die uns noch mehr verborgen sind, umso mehr wir im Alarmzustand laufen.

Und unsere feinen Sinnesorgane, die wieder zu trainieren, ist eine der ganz großen Herausforderungen der heutigen Zeit. Dafür brauchen wir Nervensystem, über das wir nachher noch sprechen. Aber das ist etwas, was in den schamanischen, in den traditionellen Heiltraditionen eben auf ganz hohem Niveau aufrechterhalten wird, nicht? Diese diese feinen Sinne zu schulen, mit denen wir die vielen scheinbar unsichtbaren Dinge dann eben doch wahrnehmen. Und solche Menschen merken sofort, wenn irgendwo etwas aus der Balance, aus seinem natürlichen Gleichgewicht herausgerät. Sie haben sofort eine Wahrnehmung dafür. Sie brauchen gar nicht erst, dass diese Wahrnehmung zu einem Symptom eskaliert oder dann zu einer Krankheit, zu einem Schmerz oder zu einer chronischen Krankheit. Dann das ist ja eine Eskalationskette, wo der Körper nur sagt: "Jetzt bleib stehen und schau hin. Das sind Dinge in deinem Denken, in deiner Wahrnehmung, in deinen Handlungen aus dem natürlichen Gleichgewicht herausgeraten. Pack die Dinge wieder an." Und das ist das, was ich als Ganzheitsmedizin bezeichne. Und hier bilde ich auch seit über 25 Jahren Ärzte für Naturheilverfahren, für die Ärzte kam Hannover aus. Und wir gehen auch tief in den Bereich der Ethnomedizin hinein. Wir haben den Qualitätszirkel Ethnomedizin, wo wir, wo ich schon vor 25 Jahren Lakota Indianer eingeladen habe, nicht? Auf der Dialama kennen wir dann später zu uns. Ähm, Dreck nach Steinhude. Also, wir haben ganz viele Menschen eingeladen, die einfach über den Tellerrand hinaus blicken und fühlen können und das, was sie mitzuteilen haben, ist spannend. Und gerade in einer heutigen Zeit, wo alles sehr, sehr in Aufregung ist, um es mal ganz, ganz banal auszudrücken, brauchen wir neue Sichtweisen, brauchen neue Ansätze.

Das finde ich so stark. Ich habe vor einigen Wochen oder ich habe vor einigen Monaten Fabian Kovalik zu Gast gehabt und der hat über den Flexner Report gesprochen, sprich, dass die östliche Medizin in der westlichen Medizin bis 1800 oder 1850, schlag mich tot, verankert gewesen ist. Und dann kam der Flexner Report, dann kamen die Rockefellers und haben alles irgendwie verbannt aus dem westlichen System, was irgendwie nicht standardisierbar ist. Und alles, was standardisierbar ist, waren war natürlich die Universitäten, war natürlich die Wissenschaft, ja auch durch diese ganzen Stiftungen finanziert war und alles, was halt irgendwie so ja schamanisch war, was kräuterisch war, ist halt natürlich irgendwie verbannt worden, bzw. Also halt nur bestimmten Menschen, die halt irgendwie auch diese Ressourcen haben, zur Verfügung gestellt worden.

Ja, wir müssen einfach äh auch den Blick weglenken jetzt von Schamanen. Das hört sich für manche Leute ein bisschen sehr weit weg an. Nicht denken wir nur an die japanische Zen-Tradition, nicht diese Aufmerksamkeit zum Detail, nicht die Straße so zu fegen, wie Michelangelo ein Bild malen würde, voller Präsenz und Achtsamkeit, oder die japanische Tradition des Waldbadens, nicht des Klarheit und Kraftsammens im Wald, oder das Ikigai, was jetzt ja auch viel rumgeht. Das sind, haben wir vor 40 Jahren schon gelehrt in unserem Qualitätszirkel Ethnomedizin, nicht? Ikigai ist einfach eine die Tradition, sich immer wieder vier Fragen zu stellen. Immer mal wieder einmal Monat oder alle halbe Jahr, nämlich die vier Fragen heißen: Erste Frage: Warum stehe ich auf? Was ist mein wirklicher Grund, warum ich aufstehe? Die zweite Frage: Worin bin ich gut? Die dritte Frage: Wie kann ich das, wohin ich gut bin, so in die Welt tragen, dass möglichst die Welt was davon hat oder dass viele Menschen dadurch berührt werden oder in irgendeiner Weise in ihrem Leben weiterkommen? Und die vierte Frage: Wie kann ich das so in die Welt tragen, dass ich davon auch meinen eigenen Lebensunterhalt bedienen kann? Und Menschen, die sich immer wieder diesen Fragen stellen und ihr Leben dadurch neu ausrichten, die brauchen gar nicht erst Alarmsignale, Signale des Körpers, der sie wachrüttelt, aus dem Autopiloten auszusteigen, aus der Komfortzone auszusteigen.

Denn eins ist klar, und das habe ich bei allen Schamanen, bei allen Heilkundigen Kleinstmeister und Großmeister, und ich bin auch auf viele Kleinstmeister gestoßen, die mich an der Nase rumgeführt haben, die wirklich Blödsinn gemacht haben, aber ich habe mich von auch von denen verführen lassen, weil ich dachte, da ist mehr dahinter. Das ist mir gerade in Afrika gerade ganz viel passiert. Aber dann habe ich mich langsam zu auch dem Resonanzfeld entsprechend zu den größeren Großmeistern hinentwickelt. Und sie alle verbindet ähm, dass sie tief in die Weltenseele hineingeschaut haben und die eigentliche Essenz im Leben immer deutlicher herausgearbeitet haben. Und ich denke gerade an ein Ritual in Afrika, in Australien bei den Nankaris, bei Gabu, einem alten, alten ähm Schamanen, Dorfältesten, und der hatte mich eine Nacht dann initiiert. Und eine Nacht wurde ich angemalt von oben bis unten mit diesen bunten Sandfarben, die man so aus Australien aus dem Outback kennt. Alles ein bisschen rotbraunlich, also klassische Erdfarben. Und dann haben wir die ganze Nacht äh getrommelt mit Klanghölzern, ne? Sind dann in eine tiefe Transreise gegangen und ähm, da hatte ich eine Erfahrung, die mich aufs Tiefste berührt hat, weil ich habe gesehen, wie aus so die Welt als unbehauener Klotz, die sich geformt hat aus Bewusstsein heraus und habe dann auch gesehen, wie wie sich ein Gedanke zu einer genetischen Struktur hinein entwickelt hat und daraus ein ganzes epigenetisches Konzept entstanden ist, ne, in Form von Mosaiken und Bildern. Und plötzlich habe ich ein Gefühl von Verbundenheit gespürt mit allem, was ist. Und von dem Moment an war klar, wir sind alle miteinander verbunden. Jede Handlung hat eine Auswirkung, nicht? Wir müssen nicht ganz groß die Bomben werfen lassen. Das sind schon die kleinen, die einfachen Gedanken, die eine Auswirkung haben. Und ich habe dort dann auch später viel gelernt über die Bedeutung von inneren Haltungen. Auch über in der aborigen Medizin sprechen wir auch von schwarzer Magie, von weißer Magie. Also, wenn jemand einen Fluch ausspricht und jemand dabei anschaut, dann macht das was mit diesen Menschen. Nicht, das war damals für mich erstmal so ganz weit weg. Das konnte ich alles so gar nicht glauben. Das war so, als das Buch "Traumfänger" geschrieben worden ist und ich da auf diesen Faden gewandelt bin. Äh, aber dann habe ich gemerkt, wie kraftvoll Worte sind. Mm. Und später, als ich dann in die Mantra-Medizin eingestiegen bin, als wir viel mit dem Dama in Verbindung waren, da habe ich gesehen, welche Kraft die positiven Worte haben, nicht die Mantren, nicht diese einfachen Sätze, die wir sagen: "Ich verneige mich vor dem Göttlichen in mir." "Ich bin einverstanden mit den Dingen, die da kommen und gehen." Nicht? Also alles in den entsprechenden Sprachen übersetzt. Das sind alles Worte, die die Wegebahnen, nicht die Türen öffnen, nicht Intention, innere Haltung, die wir in Gedanken, in Worten aussenden und die eine unglaubliche Wirksamkeit haben. Aber dazu müssen wir unsere Wahrnehmungsorgane trainieren, um zu erkennen, was nährt mein Leben, was zerrt an meinem Leben, welche Menschen bereichern mich, welche ziehen nur an mir, wo spiele ich hier Opferrolle und lass mich immer wieder in dieselben Spiele rein, ohne dass mein Leben dadurch irgendwo weitergeht. Also, wir haben da viele, viele Ansätze, die wir verfolgen können, wenn wir das Leben bereichern wollen. Aber das größte Thema ist heute eigentlich die Angst. Die Angst, die Pandemie der Angst ist so übergreifend auf der Welt und nichts ist so ansteckend wie Angst. Und dich kenne ich ja auch nur als jemand. Wir wollen beide zusammen ein Feld ja ansteckender Gesundheit schaffen, wo Dinge einfach sich weiterentwickeln, weil wir wissen, das was wir von von vielen aus vielen Traditionen heraus kennen: Leben ist grenzenlos und trägt unendliche Möglichkeiten in sich und es möchte sich weiterentfalten wie eine schöne Blume. Und in der hawaiianischen Medizin ist der ein Begriff für Krankheit Mahi, das bedeutet Einengung, Verklemmung, Erdrückung. Das ist das Wort für Krankheit, nicht? Das heißt, der natürliche Fluss des Lebens ist eingeengt. Und so geht es drum, Mana, die Lebenskraft wieder in Fluss zu bringen. Da gibt's die Lomi-Massage, gibt's die Aloha-Tänze und und alles mit dem Ziel, den natürlichen Fluss des Lebens wiederherzustellen. Nicht, wir haben bei den Aborigines die der Kontakt zu Mutter Erde, die die Rituale, mit denen man einfach die Ahnen ehrt, nicht? Wer Familienaufstellung kennt, weiß, wie wichtig es ist, seine Ahnen wertschätzen zu können, weil auch von denen Energie zu uns fließt, nicht? Also, wenn wir all diese Bereiche berühren, können wir können wir Tage füllen, was da alles an Möglichkeiten besteht. Ich will nur einen Blick dafür öffnen, dass gerade in der Medizin ist Medizin heute zu einer Reparaturmedizin verkommen, wo wir gar nicht mehr mitkriegen, was da für ein ungünstiges Spiel für mit uns allen gespielt wird, was wir zulassen aus Bequemlichkeit. Nicht, wir wissen, dass nur 10% der Medikamente überhaupt die Wirkung haben, die wir von ihnen erhoffen. Wir wissen von den 1,3 Millionen Todesfällen in Amerika nur durch Nebenwirkung von Medikamenten, bei uns 200.000 Todesfälle, nur durch Nebenwirkung von Medikamenten Jahr für Jahr, nicht? Nebenwirkung von Medikamenten Krankheitsursache Nummer 3 in Amerika, nicht? Also, wir können da ganz viele Zahlen nennen und für die, die sich da mehr interessieren, können wir das gerne unterm Video noch mal als Skript darstellen. Ich habe das mal zusammengestellt, damit wir jetzt nicht zu viel mit Zahlen langweilen. Aber dann sieht man noch mal genau, welche Auswirkungen Medikamente in ihren Nebenwirkungen haben und wie wie sehr sie unser Leben bedrohen heute. Nicht, wir haben Schulmedizin ganz wunderbar, aber wir haben diesen Bereich der Medikamentenmedizin, den wir sehr genau im Auge behalten müssen, weil der zu einem echten Gefahrenpotenzial wird.

Mein Motto hier auf dem Kanal ist immer: Die Herzen müssen höher schlagen als unsere Wunden. Das ist ja auch meine Aufgabe ein bisschen als Brückenbauer. Und in den letzten Tagen bin ich oft so ins Bett gegangen, habe irgendwie so ein Gras vollen Kopf gehabt und dachte mir, das was da draußen passiert, diese Gleichzeitigkeit der ganzen Krisen, da jetzt irgendwie diese mentale Hygiene zu bewahren, ist wirklich eine große Herausforderung. Und da haben mir Mantren geholfen. Da haben wir, dass ich da einfach mal ein Mantra im Hintergrund habe laufen lassen morgens, wenn ich aufstehe, gleich in so ein positiven Fluss reinkommen. Wir werden es auf jeden Fall hier unten verlinken, die ganzen Mantren, die mich dabei unterstützen, einfach so positiv in den Tag zu starten, bzw. auch den Tag positiv zu beenden, weil ich habe das Gefühl, die Stimmung da draußen ist gekippt, die Menschen sind zermürbt. Mich haben so viele Nachrichten in den letzten Tagen, Wochen erreicht. Ich würde mal sagen, als dieser Irankonflikt angefangen hat, 150 Stück, ja, die nicht positiv waren. Ich meine, ich kriege jeden Tag viele Nachrichten, aber halt die, wo ich mir dachte, irgendwie ist das jetzt plötzlich so eine andere Energie. Da schreiben mir Leute: "Simo, ich drehe durch. Simo, was soll ich machen? Simo, überall Ungerechtigkeit." Das ist ja so ein kollektiver Erschöpfungszustand, der da gerade stattfindet. Wie erlebst du das gerade so in der Praxis?

Ja, gut, in meiner Praxis am Stein und der Meer bieten wir inzwischen nur noch Kurwochen an, weil wir gemerkt haben, Patienten, die sich melden, sind so außer Rand und Band, sind quasi im neurophysiologischen Ausnahmezustand, nicht? Weil ihr Sympathikus, ihre Adrenalindominanz, ihre innere Unruhe im Kopf ist einfach so stark, dass ein Tag gar nicht reicht, nicht? Oder eine Stunde schon gar nicht, sondern wir äh bringen Menschen in die Regulation über eine einwöchige Kur, wo der Vagusnerv gestärkt wird, ne? Der Vagus, das ist sozusagen der Dirigent unserer Selbstheilungsprozesse. Er ist der Dirigent dieses ganzen Orchesters ähm der Signale des Körpers, aber auch der Selbstheilungsprozesse. Und der Vagus sorgt dafür, dass wenn der Stresspegel zu hoch kommt, dass er wieder runtergeht. Wenn Blutdruck zu hoch geht, dass wieder runterkommt. Wenn Puls zu hoch geht, dass wieder runterkommt. Wenn zu viel Zucker ausgeschieden wird, dass wieder runterkommt. Und wenn diese Vagusbremse aber ausfällt, dann entsteht Leid, dann wird der Patient krank. Und das können wir nicht korrigieren mit Chemie. Das ist nicht möglich. Wir können nur durch eigene Aktivität dafür sorgen, dass der Vagus wieder an Kraft gewinnt. Wir können traditionelle Heilverfahren anwenden, wir können Akupunktur, bestimmte Heiltechniken anwenden. Wir können hochdosierte Heilkräuter aus der tibetischen, aus der indischen, aus der ayurvedischen Medizin, aus der chinesischen Medizin einsetzen, um die innere Erdung zu stärken, nicht die Mitte zu stärken, was heute gleich bedeuten wäre mit dem Vagus stärken. Also, es gibt da Möglichkeiten, Menschen zu helfen, wieder in ihre Balance zu kommen, aber das größte Problem ist, dass Menschen in der Angst ihre Gedanken nicht unter Kontrolle haben. Das heißt, sie sind unfähig mit ihren Gedanken umzugehen, denn diese Gedanken laufen in die Vergangenheit, in die Erinnerung. Das ist, was uns als menschliche Wesen ja von den Tieren unterscheidet. Wir können Dinge erinnern und wir können ein Bild einer möglichen Zukunft entwerfen. Daraus entsteht aber auch auf der einen Seite, dass wir Erfahrungen ansammeln können und eine Vision, eine beste Vision von uns haben können. Aber gleichzeitig kann es auch sein, dass Dramen und Traumata aus der Vergangenheit ins Hier und Jetzt reindonnern und uns daran hindern, im Hier und Jetzt präsent zu sein und gleichzeitig die Angst vor der Zukunft uns auch aus dem Hier und Jetzt rausbringt. Das heißt, die Gedanken wollen fokussiert werden auf den Moment, wo Leben stattfindet. Und dafür gibt es äh seit 10 Jahren auch in meiner Praxis ein sehr aufwendiges EKG-Gerät, ein Vagusmessgerät, wo wir den Vagustonus messen können und dann sehen wir, wie innerhalb von wenigen Minuten wir aus einem Sympathikustonus mit Puls 100 auf einen Puls von 70 kommen können durch entsprechende Atemtechniken. Und dann sieht man in dem Moment, wo der Patient sich Mühe gibt, 2 Minuten mal zu atmen und ich ihn dann hinterher frage: "Wo waren Sie denn, während wir geatmet haben?" Sagt: "Ja, hier, jetzt gerade hier bei dem Atmen." Und plötzlich sehen wir im EKG eine gesunde regulierte Körperregulation, während noch 2 Minuten vorher in seinen Dramen von Vergangenheit und Ängsten für die Zukunft unterwegs war, nicht? Also das wissen alle, die Yoga-Meditation praktizieren, wissen das ja, ist ja klar. Aber dass man es so gut messen kann und dass man auch messen kann, wie ein einzelner Gedanke sofort im EKG, nicht irgendwo, sondern wirklich im guten, aufwendigen, hochsignifikanten EKG zu einem Ausschlag führt. Ein einzelner Gedanke, dann sieht man, welche Kraft die positive innere Ausrichtung hat. Und wir wollen ja nicht klagen über die Dinge, die nicht funktionieren. Wir haben uns ja vor über die Dinge zu sprechen, die funktionieren. Und Meditation, Atmung ist etwas, egal ob ich im Himalaya war, ob ich ums im Kaporn war, in Borneo, auf Madagaskar. Sie überall halten Menschen Kontakt zu sich selbst, zu ihrer sozialen Gemeinschaft, zu ihren Ahnen, zu etwas Größerem, was ihr Kopf gar nicht greifen kann. Sie halten Kontakt, sie suchen nach Verbindung, weil sie wissen, dass genau diese Verbindung ihnen Erdung, ihnen Kraft gibt, ihnen Zuversicht gibt, Vertrauen gibt, ihnen auch oft liebevolle Gefühle gibt. Also genau das Gegenteil von dem, was wir gerade in Deutschland haben und gerade bei uns in Zentraleuropa und Deutschland ganz besonders haben wir ein Feld, das Gesundheit nicht begünstigt. Sagen wir es mal so, das Feld ist eher sehr angespannt. Das heißt, es fällt den meisten Menschen, das war deine Frage, wie erlebe ich es in der Praxis? Es fällt den Menschen schwer, ihre Balance zu halten. Das heißt, es kommen Menschen zu mir, das sind Rechtsanwälte, das ist ein Abteilungsleiter, das sind Menschen auch Maurer, Elektriker. Aus allen Lebensbereichen kommen Menschen, die sagen: "Ich kann nicht mehr. Eigentlich habe ich alles. Ich hab alles, was man braucht, aber ich fühle innen drin eine Leere und eine innere Aufregung. Das kenne ich so nicht. Ich kann nicht schlafen. Ich habe Schulter-Nacken-Verspannungen, ich habe Ohrgeräusche und ich kriege meinen Kopf einfach nicht in die Ruhe rein." Und das ist die große Herausforderung. Wenn ich jetzt Pulsdiagnose mache, tibetische oder chinesistische Pulsdiagnose, dann sehen wir einen angespannten Holzpuls. Was? Holz, ein angespannten Holzpuls, so sagen wir in der chinesischen Medizin ganz einfach ausgedrückt. Und das bedeutet nichts weiter als ein Leben im Widerstand, im Widerstand mit dem, was ist. Das heißt, hier sagt ein Mensch permanent Ja zu etwas, wo er eigentlich Nein meint. Das heißt, er läuft völlig neben seinem menschlichen mitgebrachten Potenzial. Er ist ständig auf einer Schiene, wo er sich mit 1% seines Handys, seiner Kapazität zufrieden gibt und die 99% Gebrauchsanweisung nicht nutzt und nicht umsetzt, weil er so gefangen ist in immer mehr vom Selben im Autopiloten in der Komfortzone und immer mehr vom Selben wiederholt sich. Das heißt, der Alarmzustand lässt nicht nach, sondern er führt jetzt zu Reaktionen im Körper. Und diese Reaktionen sind meistens erstmal äh die Schlafstörung, nicht die Unfähigkeit, den Körper wieder richtig aufzutanken, wieder an der Basis wieder zu stärken. Es führt dann im in der Folge zu Unkonzentriertheit, so dass man einfach irgendwas isst, ne? Vielleicht sogar noch Snacks zwischendurch, nicht? Die ständigen Insulinspitzen führen dann dazu, dass der Körper permanent auch weiter im Stressmodus gehalten wird. Und wenn man dann äh schaut, dann ist das ganze Leben ein Widerstand, wo ich permanent gute Miene mache zum besonderen Spiel. Und das macht was mit dem Körper. Es fördert etwas, das nennen wir Silent Inflammation.

Da würde ich mir gerne einsteigen. Ich habe über 40 Jahre gebraucht. Ich war ja Systemsoldat. Ich war jahrelang beamteter Gymnasiallehrer. Vorher habe ich jahrelang für eine Versicherung gearbeitet. Und in egal in welchem System du arbeitest, du musst ja immer so ein inneren Anteil von dir unterdrücken, weil du halt nie so diese authentische Version von dir ausleben kannst. Und meine zweite Geburt war es definitiv ähm, sichtbar zu werden hier auf YouTube, meine wahrhaftigste Version irgendwie auszuleben. Und du hast ja vorhin von der Verbindung gesprochen und moralische Autoritäten, die werden, die gibt's ja de facto nicht. Ja, ich meine, guckt guckt euch mal die Kirchen an. Impfen ist Nächstenliebe, Waffenlieferungen sind Nächstenliebe. Schaut euch die ganzen angstgetriebenen Politiker an. Ich drück es mal sehr positiv aus, die wirklich null Haltung haben. Ich habe mich in den letzten Wochen, Monaten ein Stück weit geschämt, Deutscher zu sein. Ich war früher immer so stolz, wenn du irgendwo auf der Welt unterwegs bist und du hast dich als Deutscher vorgestellt, da habe ich es mir mit Stolz gesagt, ne? Weil irgendwie ja, habe ich mit Stolz gesagt und in den letzten Wochen, Monaten habe ich mir gedacht, ich möchte nicht von diesen Menschen irgendwie vertreten werden. Ich liebe das Land, ich liebe diese Menschen. Wenn du dir so viele Konflikte anschaust, das ist so eine glasklare Sache. Und überall auf der Welt wird darüber ganz offen gesprochen. Um auch so eine gewisse Neutralität zu wahren, muss ich mir deutsches Fernsehen angucken, iranisches Fernsehen, australisches Fernsehen, Amerika, wirklich, um halt wirklich auch die ganze Bandbreite der Meinung irgendwie in meine Entscheidung mit reinzubringen und überall ne Gaza-Konflikt z.B. wird offen darüber gesprochen. Ja, und wir in Deutschland, obwohl da 500.000 Menschen im Erdboden gleich gemacht worden sind, wir hätten jetzt auch ein Iran-Konflikt nehmen können, oder Ukraine, die Lage sei ja nicht bewertbar oder die Lage sei ja hochkomplex. Ich finde, das klingt immer super, wenn ich dann immer so Ärzten zuhöre, dass man irgendwie mehr in der Verbindung sein muss, mehr halt irgendwie bei sich sein muss. Aber was sagst du so diese alleinerziehende Mama, die genauso Systemsoldat ist und versucht irgendwie das Leben auf die Kette zu bekommen? Welchen konkreten Ratschlag hast hast hast du für solche Menschen, die wirklich jetzt gar nicht so wissen, zweite Geburt und wie sie aus diesem Muster rauskommen, sondern einfach nur am hinterherhächeln sind, um draußen zu funktionieren?

Ja, wir können es mal auf eine eine ganz andere Ebene bringen. Wir haben eine körperliche Biochemie und diese Biochemie entscheidet darüber, wie wir wie klar wir denken können. Mhm. Und wir wissen heute, wie sich diese Biochemie zusammensetzt. Und man kann sich das ganz einfach vorstellen. Wenn ich eine Banane esse, wird diese Banane wird zu einem Teil von mir. Wenn ich eine Mango esse, die Mango wird zu einem Teil von mir, ne? Also alles, was ich zu mir futtere im Laufe des Lebens, wird zu einem Teil von mir und bestimmt damit maßgeblich über mein Schwingungsfeld, ne? Kann ich selbst drüber entscheiden. Gleichzeitig alles, was ich an Erlebnissen in meinem Leben erlebt habe, sammelt sich an in Form von Eindrücken. Die trage ich dann auch mit mir rum. So. Und all das formt eine Biochemie, die sehr fein gemixt sein kann wie ein Smoothie oder sehr toxisch gebraut werden kann, wie eine toxische Suppe. Das heißt, meine Gedanken und das, was ich an Nahrung zu mir nehme, entscheidet viel mehr darüber, wie sich meine Stimmung darstellt, wie klar und wach ich denken kann, oder wir kennen das ja alles: Man ist, was man ist, ne? Ich werde nie vergessen, dieser Gabu, dieser äh australische Schamane, der war es, glaube ich, der sagte: "Wer einen ganzen Tag Pizza isst, der wird irgendwann zur Pizza und wird dann auch als Pizza verspeist, ne?" Das ist jetzt sehr speziell ausgedrückt, aber wir sehen, wenn ich den ganzen Tag Currywurst esse, dann kann ich mir Wolf meditieren. Ich komme über ein gewisses Bewusstseinsniveau nicht raus, weil ich eben in einem bestimmten, in einer bestimmten Biochemie festhänge von Chemikalien, von Dingen, die meinen Körper als un von meinem Körper als unnatürlich empfunden werden, sodass der Körper mit Gegenreaktionen arbeiten muss, um zu überleben, nicht? Das heißt, alles, was ich an Unnatürlichem zu mir nehme, verändert diese Biochemie. Und umso gröber sie schwingt die Biochemie, umso schwerer wird es im feinen Bereich Dinge wahrzunehmen. Und jetzt kommt's: Umso mehr wir durch falsche Nahrung, durch lebensfeindliche Nahrung Entzündungsprozesse vorantreiben. Umso mehr wir entzündet sind innerlich, umso mehr werden unsere Gedanken vernebelt, ne? Silent Inflammation, schleichende Entzündungen sind Entzündungen, die über leichte Autoimmunprozesse im Darm entstehen und die das Mikrobiom Stück für Stück erst im kleinen, dann im größeren schädigen und die dann verhindern, dass Hormone produziert werden wie Serotonin, nicht das Wohlfühlhormon, Oxytocin, nicht das Liebes-, des Glücklichkeits-, das Zufriedenheitshormon, das Kuschelhormon, ne? Melatonin, das Schlafhormon. Wenn diese Hormone, diese Biochemie nicht natürlich funktioniert, dann wird das nichts mit dem liebevollen Denken. Dann sind auch Gedanken wie an Frieden zu denken, an den besten Ausgang von Konflikten zu denken, wird dann immer schwerer, weil wir sind in einem anderen Resonanzfeld, nicht? Bin ich innerlich im Widerstand mit mir selbst? Bin ich mit mir selbst am Kämpfen? Ist mein Körper mit mir am

Kämpfen, weil ich mich nicht gut um ihn kümmere, ne? Dann entstehen daraus auch Gedanken, dann entstehen daraus Überlebensstrategien, dann entstehen daraus Prozesse, die wir bei vielen Politikern nicht gerade aus Amerika, der macht es ja auch gut vor mit dem, was wie er sich ernährt, nicht aus der Nahrung, das ist ein Resonanzfeld, in dem man dann ist.

Dann kommt man auch nicht in äh besonders feinfühlende, empathische, mitfühlende Gedanken rein, wenn man sich nicht mitfühlend ernährt. Nicht achtet auf das, was man ist. Also, auf deine Frage äh mit der Frau, mit Kind, es fängt erstmal in dem achtsamen Umgang an mit seiner Zeit und der Art und Weise, was und wie ich esse, wie ich den Tag starte, ne? Yoga, Meditation, warmes Zitronenwasser, nicht Zungenschaben, Sesamöl, Mundspülung, nicht auch aus dem Mund kommen ganz viele Schleichenentzündung, die den Körper transportiert werden, nicht eine Mantra Meditation, Atmung, nicht?

Also, ich kann gerne mal so eine eine Tagesroutine, die einen Einstieg in einen Tag ermöglicht, der wirklich ein gelungener, ein lebenswerter Tag wird. Nicht ist ein riesen Unterschied, ob ich morgens, wie du sagtest eben im Hintergrund eine schöne Mantramusik oder schöne chinesische, indische, japanische Klänge spielen lasse oder ob ich ob Hintergrund RTL2 läuft oder NTV oder Börsennachrichten. Ich trete völlig anders in den Tag hinein, nicht? Und damit geht es schon los, etwas früher aufstehen, eine Tagesroutine, sich anzugewöhnen, das kann jeder. Und diese Tagesroutine können wir gerne unter dem Video auch als Skript verlinken, äh, so dass der Zuschauer was ganz Handfestes hat, womit er arbeiten kann. Wir können auch mit dazu setzen eine Nahrungsmittelliste mit all den Nahrungsmitteln, die entzündungsfördernd sind und solchen, die entzündungshemmend sind.

Und ich habe in den 80er Jahren meine Doktorarbeit über das Darmikrobiom geschrieben. Das heißt, seit 40 Jahren bin ich im Thema Darmikrobiom unterwegs und ich kann sagen, ein gestörtes Darmmilieu führt zu gestörten Gedanken und blockiert feine, klare Wahrnehmung. Man könnte fast sagen, äh, es blockiert auch die Fähigkeit, empathisch im Sinne von Frieden schaffen zu denken, ne? Dann habe ich eher die Ideen, ich haue lieber Bomben drauf und erzähle keinen, wie viel ich da intern umbringe und gucke auch, dass keiner darüber berichtet, so in dem Maße, wie es wirklich stattfindet, weil ich einfach in einem Feld unterwegs bin, dass ich ständig auch durch ungünstige Nahrung ein Stressfeld, dass ich immer weiter nähre, nicht? Also, Nahrung jetzt nur ein Aspekt bezogen auf die Biochemie, die wir ändern können. Aber äh, im Mittelpunkt steht, wenn ich im Alarmzustand laufe, dann heißt mein Lebensmotto: Ich überlebe jetzt. Das heißt, der Politiker, der mit Sicherheit im permanenten Alarmmodus läuft, weil er ständig Angst davor haben muss, von der Presse zerfleischt zu werden. Er ist also permanent im Überlebensmodus und er muss permanent schauen, wie verhalte ich mich richtig, dass ich bloß nicht abgestraft werde. Und ich will nicht regiert werden von Menschen, die nur Angst getrieben. Bin ich bin ganz bei dir, ne? Ich möchte regiert werden von Menschen, die sich so verhalten, dass ich sagen kann, ey, wie der wäre ich auch gerne, ey, toller Typ, ne? Der macht's uns vor und solche Menschen gibt es, aber die werden sind in der Politik unerwünscht, weil alle anderen dann sofort noch mehr Angst kriegen, dass diese weisen Menschen in sie sozusagen in die Kleider ausziehen. Da bin ich hundertprozentig bei dir. Du hast gerade Kollegen Donald Trump angesprochen. Robert Kennedy hat mal über Donald Trump gesagt, er sei überrascht, wie jemand überleben kann in so einer verantwortungsvollen Position und er sich den ganzen Tag so einem Müll reinzieht. Ich glaube, der ist den ganzen Tag gefühlt nur Hamburger.

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Artenübung mache, bin ich ganz da und mein System reguliert sich plötzlich ein, so wie es auch wagustärkende Übungen gibt. Es gibt wagus stärkende chinesische Heilrezepturen. Es gibt wagus stärkende Infusionen, wie wir sie jetzt in meiner Praxis am Stein oder mehr geben, wenn Patienten völlig ausgebrannt mit im Sympathikusmodus mit Puls von 100 kommen und den einfach nicht runterkriegen, nicht?

Also, wir haben Möglichkeiten das System zu stärken, sodass dann auch Hautkrankheiten natürlich auch zurückgehen. Hashimoto, na Hashimoto, dahinter verbirgt sich das Kehlkopfchakra, ne? Das hier oben dieser Bereich, wo Dinge ausgesprochen werden wollen. Und wir sehen, dass gerade Hashimoto oder alle Schilddrüsenerkrankung, aber gerade Hashimoto, wo dann eben auch Autoimmunprozesse dahinter stehen, da kämpft etwas in mir gegen mich selbst. So nach dem Motto, wann komme ich endlich dran? Wann komme ich endlich dran, mich klar auszudrücken und klar das zu tun, was ich schon immer tun wollte, ne?

Ich hatte mal einen Patienten, ist jetzt nicht Hashimot, aber be Mandelentzündung. Äh, das ist ganz lange her, bestimmt 30 Jahre her, aber ich habe ihn nie vergessen, weil er regelmäßig alle drei Wochen mit einer dicken Mandelentzündung vor mir saß, mit solchen dicken roten Mandeln. Und er war relativ jung, vielleicht 22, hatte einen super eleganten Anzug an, die Haare waren ganz sauber gekämmt und er saß ganz brav immer immer vor mir. Aber alle drei Wochen hat er eine Mandelzündung gehabt und wollt um jeden Preis ein Antibiotikum. Nicht damals habe ich noch gesagt, das Menschen will ein Himmelreich, wer ich anders will, der kriegt es. Beim ersten und zweiten Mal habe ich es ihm auch gegeben. Damals ist 30 Jahre her, aber er kam immer wieder und irgendwann habe ich ihm gesagt, jetzt reicht's. Heute gibt's keins. Jetzt reden wir über deine Geschichte. Was ist los?

Während er vorher nicht drüber reden wollte, hat er jetzt angefangen zu reden. Wir haben beide einen guten Tag erwischt, wo er beide, wo Zeit da war. Und es stell sich raus, dass er hobbymäßig in der IT-Branche sehr sehr schlau, sehr intelligent war und dass er aber in der Firma geblieben ist, wo er schon seine Ausbildung gemacht hat und alle haben ihm alles. Er war der einzige, der sich mit allem auskannte, ne? Und es gab ja mal so eine Zeit, da wussten nur ganz wenig, wie es geht und alle anderen sind alle sind zu ihm gekommen und er war so ein typischer Kandidat, der nicht nein sagen konnte. Mm. Seine Überlebensstrategie, die er von seinen Eltern beigebracht bekommen hatte, war immer ja zu sagen, da kommst du am besten durch, bloß keinen Unfrieden schaffen, also eine permanente Sehnsucht nach Frieden und Friedefreude Eierkochen, nicht? Und er stellt sich raus, dass er fast noch dasselbe Gehalt kriegte, wie er es als Außilder gekriegt hat und das mehr auf ihn einge aufgestöbt wird, als es eigentlich seiner Würde entspricht, ne, und seinem inneren Stolz. Aber er hat nicht gelernt mit der Faust auf dem Tisch zu schlagen, sagen, halt, stopp, bis hier und nicht weiter.

Und das erlebe ich auch heute ganz viel. Menschen, die nur noch auf Social Media unterwegs sind, die auch im Bus im im Zug ähm nur noch ins Handy schauen, die verlieren so den Kontakt zu sich selbst, diesen inneren Anker. Sie verlieren diese innere Souveränität, dass sie noch weniger Kraft und Bereitschaft haben, Halstopp zu sagen, nicht? Und das ist etwas, was wir sehr gut beobachten und dadurch sind Menschen so exzessiv im Alarm zustand. Mm.

Und die dritte Volkskrankheit, unterer Rücken. Unterer Rücken ist ja auch nicht so spezifisch, bzw. Rückenlein. Unterer Rücken ist ja oftmals auch ja etwas, was halt äh wo halt Leute oder wo halt Menschen wochenlang, Monate lang krank geschrieben sind. Ja, also ich kann jetzt bei mir jetzt gerade sagen, ich war zwei Monaten Indien und auf Bali und habe jeden Tag meine Meditations und Yogapraxis gemacht und ich muss zugeben, als ich dorthin kam, hatte ich mich auch etwas überarbeitet und habe mir wirklich bewusst zwei Monate Zeit genommen, weil ich immer sage, todarbeiten kann sich jeder, aber meinen Mut zu haben, auszusteigen aus allem braucht schon ein bisschen mehr. Und ich hatte auch unterer Rücken. Ich wusste aber genau, warum, weil ich mich zu wenig bewege, weil ich mit dem Yoga nachlässig war und alles nicht mehr gemacht habe, wovon ich genau wusste, dass ich es eigentlich machen müsste. Bin da auch wie jeder andere auch. Ich muss mich auch immer dazu zwingen, das klappt mal besser, mal gar nicht. Und bevor ich losgefahren bin, hat's fast gar nicht geklappt, nicht? Und dann habe ich gemerkt, was so eine Ayurvedakour im tiefsten Dschungel von Indien jeden Tag ganz viel Meditation, die Yogaübung wirklich sorgfältig ausgedehnt. Es ging alles, was ich hatte, Schmerzen, Schultern, überall, es ging alles innerhalb von zi d Wochen weg, nicht?

Also, es braucht wirklich die körperliche Dehnung, die Bewegung, die Ruhe, das Atmen, einen Aufbau des Wagusnervs, damit wir ein feines Gefühl wieder dafür haben, wie viel Schenke Geschenke wir im Körper haben, die wir nutzen können. Diese 97% warten darauf genutzt zu werden, aber wenn ich im Alarmmodus laufe, dann arbeitet nur mein Stammhirn und das will nur ich überleben jetzt, ne? Das heißt, mein ganzes Denken, wir sprachen über die Politiker, ist nur ausgerichtet auf wie kann ich hier einigermaßen durchkommen. Nicht, es braucht den Wagusnerv als Türöffner. Man bezeichnet ihn auch zurecht als Sozialnerv. Nicht ist der Sozialnerv.

Vielleicht sollten wir noch mal über die drei Überlebensmechanismen des Menschen sprechen. Lass uns mal ganz kurz über diesen Wagusnerv sprechen. Der wird ja momentan überall gehabt. Ich glaub dein neues Buch. Muss mal ganz kurz hier schauen. Vaguscode neue Perspektiven für Resilienz und Gelassenheit. Jetzt haben wir viel über angstgetriebene Zustände mehr Politikern, Ärzten und System und Schlagmich tot gesprochen. Wie kann man diesen Wagusnerv jetzt während wir hier zusammenitzen aktivieren im Alltag kurz vor einer stressigen Situation, kurz bevor ich ins nächste Gespräch reingehe, weil du hast ja vorhin kurz skizziert, dass er ja wirklich irgendwie elementar ist, um das ganze System runterzufahren.

Exakt. Also der Wagusnerv ist ein Überlebens ähm Mechanismus, den wir in der letzten Entwicklungsgeschäfte der Menschheit entwickelt haben, weil wir im letzten Prozess gemerkt haben, dass Überleben nur in der Gemeinschaft gelingen kann. Und so sind die Gesichtszüge freundlicher geworden. Der neanderalle, der sehr grimmig war, die Gesichtszüge sind so geworden, dass die Menschen mehr aufeinander zugegangen sind und so haben sich besonders die Gesichtsfasern herausentwickelt. Und so gibt es eine Übung ganz praktisch, die wir machen können, nämlich so wie eine Mutter über die Stirn ihres Kindes streicht und das Kind damit beruhigt, passiert es deswegen, weil das Vagus assoziierte Fazialisphasen sind. Und eine ganz einfache Übung ist so, um die Augen zu streichen, damit stimulieren wir den Wagusnf. Eine Möglichkeit. Eine andere Möglichkeit ist, dass ein ein Brummen, wo die Schildtrüse bzw. Stimmbänder hier dieses ganze Kehlkopfchakra anfängt zu vibrieren, ne? Für die, die Yoga machen, Meditation, wir kennen als das Rom. Man würde hier noch so ein bisschen A davor setzen. A, nicht. Also dieses Brum aktiviert den Klosopharüngius. Dann haben wir das Atmen natürlich, das weiß inzwischen jeder. Wir sagen 47 atmen bis vier beim Einatmen bis sieben beim Ausatmen. Nicht, das sind alles Dinge. Wir haben insgesamt sieben Wagusübungen definiert, die wir auch über das EKG bestätigt haben. Das sehen wir, wenn wir diese Übung machen, sehen wir im EKG, wie der Sympathikusonus runtergeht und der Wagestonus hochgeht. Es sei denn, Menschen sind äh in dieser Selbstregulation so gestört, dass das eben nicht funktioniert. Das ist heute auch bei ganz vielen der Fall. Da hilft das Atmen aber nichts.

Aber es ich beobachte dabei was ganz besonderes, dass gerade Menschen, die zu einem Perfektionskrang neigen, wenn die dann die Artenübung machen, ihr müsst euch muss ja so vorstellen, das EKG läuft läuft 10 Minuten, die Hälfte davon sprechen wir über ganz normale Dinge, dann sehe ich immer, wenn ein Ausschlag kommt und die zweite Hälfte wird in einer bestimmten Attenfrequenz, so ungefähr 47 geatmen, auf 49 nehmen, aber in diesem Bereich wird gehen plötzlich, wie der Vagus nerv hochgeht bei Menschen, wo er nicht hochgeht, sondern wo der Sympathikus jetzt hochgeht, das sind die, die sehr genau zugehört haben, uns jetzt ganz besonders richtig machen wollen. Weil sie es perfekt machen wollen, ganz besonders richtig machen wollen, setzen sich selbst so unter Spannung, dass genaues Gegenteil passiert. Der Sympathikus geht hoch und der Vagus geht runter.

Du meinst diese Selbstoptimierer, ne? Die Selbstoptimierer, ne? Oder die Perfektionisten. Boah, da kenne ich so einige, ne? Wir sind ja hier wirklich im Prenzlauer Berg im Herzen der Selbstoptimierer. Das geht mir so auf dem Sack, wie die sich so sehr unter Druck setzen, weil eigentlich etwas, was eigentlich gut sein sollte. Ja, ne? Und deswegen ist die beste Form der ähm der Wagustärkung eigentlich das beobachtende Atmen. Ich bin so stark bei mir, dass ich einfach meinen Atten beobachte und plötzlich komme ich aus diesen 300 mil raus und rein hächeln komme ich plötzlich in eine Ausdehnung von 3 dreieinhalb liten. Wenn ich dann noch durch die Nase atme, wir Menschen sind Nasenatmer und wir brauchen noch keine Masken. Wenn wir durch die Nase atmen, wird alles ausreichend ausgefiltert. Ähm und als Nasenatmer können wir, wenn wir tief durch die Nase atmen, ganz viele biochemische Prozesse im Körper sehr günstig anregen. Es werden 10 % mehr Sauerstoffmoleküle auf die roten Blutkörperchen aufgelegt. Nicht der Blutdruck geht runter, der Vagusnerv entspannt sich. Also, wir haben durch durch die Übung, die uns die ajedische, die yogische Kultur schon seit vielen Jahrzehnten nach Europa bringt, das können wir heute alles belegen, nicht? Wir sehen genau, was die Meditation, was die einzelnen Übungen mit uns machen und sehen wir, wir wird dadurch eine regulierte Biochemie im Körper bekommen und diese regulierte Biochemie öffnet Touren der Heilung, so dass Heilung gelingen kann, ne? Ich spreche immer von gelingen kann, manchmal gelingt es auch nicht. Das gehört einfach dazu. Aber wir schaffen Rahmenbedingungen mit der Atmung, mit der Meditation, mit dem Yoga, mit der Ernährung, mit Hochdosis Naturmedizin, Heilkräutern schaffen wir Rahmedinge, unter denen Heilung gelingen kann, weil wir die Grundvoraussetzung, die biochemischen, physiologischen Grundvoraussetzung schaffen, dass nicht nur Heilung, sondern dann auch klares Denken, klares Bewusstsein gelingen kann und dann auch Integration, weil Integration braucht vorher Reflexion, damit sich setzen kann. Wer beim Alarmmodus läuft, der kann weder reflektieren vernünftig geschweige denn integrieren. Das heißt, wir das System braucht eine Portion an Sicherheit, also an Wagustonus, um gemachte Erfahrung auch so zu integrieren, dass es eine Nachhaltigkeit kriegt, denn nur dann findet Wachstum statt. Und das passiert heute nur bei einem ganz kleinen Teil der Bevölkerung, die sich wirklich innerlich ausgerichtet haben aufs Wachstum. Bei den anderen geht die Kurve, du hast es eben schon erwähnt, eher nach unten runter, weil die Ablenkung, das Angstfeld eher größer und stärker wird. Und wem es da nicht gelingt auszusteigen, wirklich die Entscheidung zu treffen, auf die andere Seite zu gehen, dem bleibt die eigentliche Magie des Lebens verloren, verborgen.

Ich bin da hundertprozentig bei dir. Ein weiterer Punkt z.B. ich bin so radikal, was so Freunde anbetrifft. Ich habe z.B. in relativ kleinen Freundeskreis. Ich habe meine Familie, ich will aber jetzt auch, ich will nicht so everybody Starling sein. Früher schon, heute bin ich da total selektiv unterwegs, weil ich finde, wenn du halt mit den Menschen irgendwie näher in Kontakt bist, sollen muss man ja irgendwie auch auf der gleichen Schwingung irgendwie funktionieren, weil wenn man zu sehr im Widerstand ist und Leute da draußen irgendwie überzeugen möchte, das ist ja auch schon wieder komplett vom Weg abgekommen zu sein.

Absolut. Absolut. Deswegen sage ich immer, egal wie lang der weiße Kittel eines Arztes auch sein möge, entscheidend ist immer die eigene Intuition, die eigene Wahrnehmung. Und was für uns gerade in der heutigen Zeit so wichtig ist, dass wir wache klarer wahrnehmen, dass wir unsere Wahrnehmungsinstrumente, unsere fünf Sinne und auch diese tieferen Sinne, die Intuition, dieses tiefe innere Gefühl, ob etwas richtig oder falsch ist, diese Dinge müssen heute geschult werden und dann können wir uns weiterentwickeln. Nicht das ist, können es auf dem Bild gerade noch mal zeigen, die Giraffen, die über die Wolken schauen, nicht? Die Giraffe ist das Tier im Tierreich mit dem größten Herzen und dem längsten Hals. Und wenn eine Giraffe über die Wolge schaut, dann heißt es, sie ist raus aus den aus den Verführungen der Politik, der Medien, der Pharmazie, der eigenen Lebensgeschichte und schafft es den Kopf aus den Wolken rauszuheben, wo blauer Himmel ist und wo man die anderen Giraffenköpfe sehen kann, denen das auch gelingt wacher klarer den Kopf rauszubekommen. Das finde ich so stark. Das ist ja auch so ein Stück weit, was du gerade beschreibst, so wahrhaftiger durchs Leben gehen. Also egal, was du ja machst, ich meine, alle sagen, oh, okay, die AfD wird's irgendwie schon richtig oder die Partei wird's irgendwie richten. Ich glaube, wenn du wirklich so mal auf dich setzt, nachdem du das ganze Leben auf jemand anders gesetzt hast und mental so ein Stück weit freier geworden bist und zu dieser Giraffe mutierst, dann fällst du andere Entscheidungen im Leben. Dann geht's auch nicht mehr beim Geld verdienen oder sonst was irgendwie um Konkurrenz oder irgendwie dem einen auswischen, sondern das sind so wahrhaftige Entscheidungen, du gönnst es dem anderen, das wir müssen nicht in Konkurrenz sein, weil wir werden beide irgendwie uns nach oben ist genauso wie du sagst und du kannst sogar noch mehr auf den Punkt bringen.

In dem Moment, wo wir vor einer Herausforderung stehen, ein Reiz kommt von außen, es dauert 200 Millisekunden, unser Körper reagiert auf den Reiz. Es dauert 500 Millisekunden, bis unser Geist das wahrnimmt, dass da ein Reiz gekommen ist. Das heißt, der Körper reagiert früher und jetzt gibt es dies Bewusstsein, das dann erst merkt, ey, da ist halt mein Körper reagiert, da ist plötzlich ein Wärme, Engelgefühl entstanden oder ein Druck. Dann habe ich wahrgenommen, aha, es kommt da und daher und jetzt kommt eine Reaktion, eine Antwort von mir nach 700, 800 Millisekunden. Und in diesem Bereich dazwischen gilt es jetzt mit Bewusstsein reinzukrätschen. Und dieses Bewusstsein bringen wir zustande oder vereinfachen wir, indem wir den Vagusnerv stärken. Das konnten wir über das EKG beweisen. Das heißt, wenn ich nur drei tiefe Atemzüge mache, bevor ich eine Antwort in einem Gespräch gebe, reichen drei Atemzüge aus und meine Antwort ist eine andere als die drei Attenzüge vorher gewesen wäre, weil durch den die Vagusaktivierung ist eine ist eine Türenspaltweit aufgegangen, dass ich größer weiterdenke, das große Ganze mehr im Blick habe oder anders ausgedrückt. Mein Herz ist ein klein bisschen aufgegangen und meine Herzwahrnehmung hat dazwischen gekrebst gekrebscht. Ich habe gemerkt, hier stimmt was nicht und hab es angesprochen.

Was würdest du Paaren empfehlen, die dann so kurz davor sind, das Ding zum explodieren zu bringen? Findst du, man soll dann so vorher Regeln haben zu sagen: "Hey, wenn es dann tatsächlich soweit ist, gehen wir dreimal in die Atmung, denn du weißt selbst man, wenn das kurz vor dem Explodieren ist, ist es echt schwierig, da dreimal durchzuatmen, sondern man ist dann plötzlich in diesem Fight oder Flightmodus."

Ja, also wenn du konkreten Tipp haben willst, es gibt die sogenannte Herzatmung. Also, es gibt zwei mögliche. Das eine sagt man sagt Pause und Pause ist das Stichwort, es wird jetzt sofort nicht mehr gesprochen und jeder geht in elf tiefe Atemzüge oder noch besser Viertelstunde Pause, man kommt dann neu zusammen. Das ist das eine. Aber grundsätzlich der beste Weg und auch gleichzeitig der schwerste ist, man macht einmal die Woche 10 Minuten Herzzeit zusammen. Zusammen. Man sitzt sich gegenüber, guckt sie in die Augen, hält es aus, sich in die Augen zu schauen und dann spricht man abwechseln, was einem wirklich am Herzen liegt. Man sagt nicht, du bist schuld, sondern nur was ich jetzt in diesem Moment wahrnehme, was in mir ein Gefühl lebendig ist. Mm. Und der andere hat dann die Aufgabe zu wiederholen, was bei ihm angekommen ist. Und dann bestätigt der ein noch mal, ja, hast du richtig verstanden oder? Nee, hier muss ich noch mal kontrigieren, korrigieren, so dass jeder aus dem Herzen herausspricht, ohne dass jetzt ein Gedanke, du hast oder du warst oder du bist, sondern nur einfach, ich rede nur in ich vor, wie es mir jetzt geht, was in mir gerade lebendig ist und teile das offen mit, ne? Und dann ist der andere dran. Ja, tierisch schwer, hat kaum einer Lust zu, aber wer es macht, erfährt dadurch ein Gewinn.

Das finde ich so stark. Ich finde wirklich, die meisten Menschen gehen so als Neandertaler in so eine Beziehung rein und sobald dann so ein Konflikt aufkommt, man ist da nicht mehr in dieser Honeymoon Phase, dann ist greift man wirklich so zu ganz ganz arscheichen Mitteln, wo man sich irgendwie anschreibt, wo man sich irgendwie Sachen an den Kopf schmeißt, aber ich finde so dies ehrliche mitteilen, was du angesprochen, es klingt so banal, aber ich glaube, die Paare, die es umsetzen, die schauen sich nach 40, 50 Jahren immer noch in die Augen und sagen: "Hey, Gott sei Dank, auch wenn es schwer gewesen ist, haben wir das umgesetzt."

Ich versuche mal jetzt all unsere Punkte zusammenzubringen. Wir haben über das Mikrobiom gesprochen, Neuroinflammation gesprochen, Vagusnerv gesprochen. Äh führt zu einer besseren Stimmung, führt zu einer besseren Entscheidungsfähigkeit weg von diesem Typ 1 hin zu Typ 2 denken und führt letztendlich irgendwo zu mehr Langlebigkeit. Mach mal versuch's mal ganz kurz runterzubrechen bei dem Mikrobiom. Was kann jetzt was können die Zuschauer jetzt irgendwie umsetzen? Was jetzt nicht Flohenschalen? Was können die Zuschauer jetzt irgendwie umsetzen? um tatsächlich dieses Mikrobiom umzusetzen. Wir hatten ja vorhin schon gehört, nicht so viel Antibiotika nehmen. Na ja, es man kann es in verschiedene Wochen einteilen. Wir haben das in verschiedenen Onlinekursen auch schon besprochen. In der ersten Woche geht's immer darum, Entzündungsprozesse zu reduzieren, indem ich keine neuen Entzündungen produziere. Das heißt, es geht darum, diesen Hirnebel schon mal dadurch zu reduzieren und die Müdigkeit, indem ich jetzt den Körper nicht zumute, was neue Entzündungsprozesse auslöst, ne? Also Entzündungsprozesse lösen aus äh Milch, äh Caschonüsse, ähm äh Sonnenblumenöl, äh Zucker, alle Snacks, alles verarbeitete Essen. Also, ich habe mal einen Ernährungsscore aufgestellt, wo ich in drei Stufen zeige, wie stark proentzündlich Nahrungsmittel auf das Mikrobiom. Da können wir eigentlich unterm Video da muss ich da mal ganz kurz eingrätschen. Ganz kurz die Dinge erstmal nur weglassen. Das okay. Cas Kerne nicht. Casw kerne nicht. Casüsse hat du gerade erwähnt, die darf man nicht essen. Cash Nüüsse haben einen extrem hohen Omega 6 gehalt, genauso wie Paranüsse, ne? Extrem hoch. Das ist so, als würde man Benzin ins Feuer gießen. Okay. Äh die Menschen, die gerne snacken, Mhm. was ist damit? Die erleben ständig Insulinspitzen und diese Insulinspitzen heizen Entzündungsprozesse an bzw. heizen den Sympathikus an, weil der Körper dadurch in den Alarmzustand kommt, auch wenn es gesundes Snecken ist, alles was wo Zucker drin ist, ne? Und das sehen wir jetzt wieder im glykemischen Index, dann sieht man genau, wie hoch der Zuckergehalt ist und die glykemische Last, so sagt man, äh wie viel Insulinausschüttung also ein Nahrungsmittel auslöst. Und die, die am meisten auslösen, das sind natürlich die, die reinen Zucker in sich haben, ne? Aber es gibt auch viele andere, die das auch auslösen, aber dazu haben wir die Liste unterm Video. Sprich Datteln weniger. Kein Problem. Kein Problem. Du redst vom weißen Zucker, vom Industriezucker. Was hältst du von dieser Dreiteilung Frühstück, Mittagessen, Abendessen? Sind wir dafür von der Industrie so fehlgeleitet worden, dass je mehr Essen wir uns ja reinballern, desto gelehmter sind wir ja irgendwo auch bzw. mehr vernebelt, weil das ganze Essen da draußen ja nicht so hochwertig produziert wird, dass dann irgendwie den maximalen Mehrwert gibt. Würdest du sagen, vielleicht eine weglassen?

Ja, also die gesündeste Ernährung ist morgens um 10 Uhr und abends um 6 Uhr eine Mahlzeit. Das wäre das das Optimale oder morgens um 11 Uhr und abends um 5 Uhr, also zweimal am Tag. Äh, das wäre das Ideale, besonders ideal, wenn der Körper wirklich hinterher 12 Stunden, vielleicht sogar 16 Stunden Zeit hat, 16 Fasten, um sich wieder zu regenerieren. Dabei werden ganz viele heilsame Mechanismen ausgelöst, nicht? Also, wie gesagt, der erste Schritt ist dem Körper zu wissen, was füge ich dem Körper zu, was ist unnatürlich, was löst Stress aus, was löst gleichen Entzündung aus. erstmal die Dinge weglassen und da kann man in der zweiten Woche kann man gucken, was sind jetzt Dinge, die Entzündungsfeuer bremsen, ne? Ich denke, war ein rote Bete ist so ein Bremser, Kern äh Brokkoli, Rosenkohl, nicht? Also, wir haben ganz viele Bremse, wo es darum geht, äh diese Entzündungsprozesse runterzufahren und das Mikrobiom wieder zu befreien, nicht? Und darüber hinaus können wir natürlich fermentierte Produkte verstärkt essen, Miso, Kimchi, Sauerkrautsaft, nicht äh Tempur, also Dinge, wo dann Lakobazillen, Bifidobakterien drin sind, z.B., die das Mikrobiom unterstützen, ne? Dann können wir es fürs Mikrobiom sogenannte Akazienpfaser noch einnehmen. Wir können äh Zink einnehmen. Also, wir haben da ein spezielles Darmprotokoll, um den Darm von Grund auch wieder neu zu sanieren.

Kannst du eigentlich auch mit deinen Freunden so eine Küvwurst genießen, ohne jetzt ständig so ein Insulin Spikes und so weiter zu denken? Also du jetzt privat oder? Bis vor 10 Jahren habe ich wenn ich mit Freunden mal mit dem Segelboot unterwegs waren wir irgendwo angelegt haben, Segelclub, wo es nichts anderes gibt, habe ich mich ab und zu noch überreden lassen, aber am nächsten Tag habe ich sofort eine Scherflaume, eine vergehrte japanische Aprikose gegessen, um sofort mein System wieder zu reinigen davon, weil ich gemerkt habe, das macht was mit mir, ne? Man hat sofort andere Resonanzen. Das ist wie Menschen, die am Schnellfutterblatt stehen, so einer Dönerbude. Man weiß schon genau, was die für Filme abends gucken. Das passt und was sie trinken dazu. Es passt alles zusammen. Mhm. Nicht. Ich habe einen Bekannten in Steinhute, der ist genau doppelt so breit wie ich und doppelt so schwer. Und immer wenn wir uns begehen, zwinget er mir so zu und bist so ein bisschen hämisch so, nachdem guck mal, ich lebe immer noch. M. Und manchmal würde ich mir am liebsten sagen, ja, guck mal an dir runter, ob du noch alles ob du noch alles siehst. Aber vor kurz ist mir aufgefallen, er redet mit mir jedes Mal dieselben Sachen, die wir seit 40 Jahren reden, diese Gespräche drückt ihr mehr auf. Das heißt, da hat sich nichts an Weiterentwicklung verändert. Wenn man da genau hinsht, sieht man das Menschen, die immer das gleiche essen, also das gleiche extrem ungesund den Übermaß, dass die so in ihrer Überlebensstrategie etabliert sind, dass auch kein neuer Gedanke mehr entstehen kann. Und wir sind heute in einer Zeit, wo einfach neue Gedanken nötig sind, um aus dem Klatterrateratch rauszukommen. Ich meine, es kann doch nicht sein, dass die Welt im Moment so Kopf steht, nicht? Da müssen wir doch irgendwo was gegen machen und jeder kann nur in sich anfangen. Nicht der Frieden entsteht in mir nicht, weil ich reagiere auf den Reiz von außen und umso mehr ich Frieden in mir habe, umso mehr leiste ich einen Beitrag für den Frieden da draußen, weil ich ihn ausbreite zu den Menschen um mich rum, Familie, Freunde und so weiter, nicht? Und für diesen Frieden in mir braucht es eine Tagesroutine, für die ich mich entscheide und dann kommen bestimmte Nahrungsmittel nicht mehr in Frage. Deswegen habe ich es irgendwann komplett bleiben gelassen.

Ich habe da so zwei Kandidaten meinem Freundeskreis. ist der eine, ich vertreibe jetzt mal bewusst ist den ganzen Tag gefühlt nur Kürryburst und raucht und trinkt. Ist aber topfit, zumindest so von was außen anbetrifft. Dann habe ich auch wiederum die anderen, die so mega Selbstoptimierer sind und alles irgendwie durchtakten und Essen abfiegen und so weiter, aber halt mal so gar nicht irgendwie fit ausschauen. Das ist auch noch ein bisschen der Stressfaktor. Ich habe z.B. so italienische Freunde, die ziehen sich jeden Abend Pasta rein. Es ist die Lebenskultur Puder wieder. Der der wird mich auslachen, wenn ich ihm irgendwie mit hier Mikrobiom oder halt irgendwie mit Insulinspike ankomme. Ich glaube, man darf sich da auch in diese ganze Verstehe mich nicht falsch. Mein Ziel ist es in dieser feinen Wahrnehmung genau zu spüren, was mir gut tut und was mir nicht gut tut. Das ist der Punkt. Ich will um Gottes Willen nicht, dass jemand zum Erbsenzähler wird. Das würde völlig nach hinten losgehen. Aber ich brauche Wissen erstmal, was mir gut tut und dann brauche ich das Gefühl. Ich muss ausprobieren und merke, ja, wenn der Hobert über über rote Bete spricht, ich esse jetzt rote Bete, hey, das macht was mit mir, da verändert sich was, ne? Also, ich muss die Erfahrung selbst gemacht haben. Wenn ich die Erfahrung nicht mache, was Neues ausprobieren. So ist es auch mit der Hochdosis Naturmedizin. Wenn ich jetzt Kurkuma als Infusion in der Praxis gebe oder als Tabletten empfehle, dann gucken wir natürlich einmal über die Laborwerte alle 14 Tage gehen die Entzündungswerte wirklich runter und wir gucken, wie fühlst du dich jetzt damit? geht's dir wirklich besser? Nicht? Und das ist entscheidend und wir wissen heute äh, dass ähm Patienten zwei Drittel ihre Medikamente wegschmeißen, nicht einnehmen. Jetzt mal den Umweltfaktor ganz außen vorgelassen, was produziert wird und gleich wieder weggeschmissen wird. Aber Menschen haben schon eine Ahnung, intuitives Gefühl, dass das, was mir hier an Chemie möglicherweise aus Angst des Arztes gegeben wird, was ich anfangs aus Angst auch genommen habe, weil ich in dieses Angstfeld einmal eingestiegen bin, dass diese Dinge mir gar nicht gut tun. Und das ist der Grund, weshalb der Patient zwei Drittel, der für verschriebene Medikamente auch gar nicht einnimmt, ne? Mancher ist aber auch so wach und dazu motiviere ich natürlich auch Menschen, wir gucken uns gemeinsam den Beipackzettel an. Wenn es denn wirklich verschämisch sein muss und wie gesagt 10 % aller Medikamente müssen sein, gibt's überhaupt keine Diskussion. ich an Blutverdünner, denke an spezielle Herzmittel, gar keine Frage, aber wir gucken uns die Beipackzettel an, damit der Patient wirklich für sich Stück für Stück liest, was passiert mit mir, wenn ich einen Fettsenker nehme, der mir das Fett aus dem Gehirn rauszieht, wo ich ein riesen Alzheimerrisiko habe, welche Nebenwirkung hat das alles und ist es mir das wert, dass ich dafür alles in mich reinschaufle, was ich immer so gegessen habe, oder sage ich, lasse ich mich jetzt mal ein auf eine Ernährung, die wirklich mein System stärkt, unterstützt, meine Biologie so fein macht, dass ich plötzlich merke, was mir nicht gut tut und dann lasse ich das aus Überzeugung dann weg.

Ich finde das Gespräch wirklich hoch interessant. Ich müss finde wir müssen es auf jeden Fall noch mal fortsetzen. Ich habe hier könnte mit dir, wie gesagt noch Stunden weiter reden. Ich habe hier noch drei ganz konkrete Fragen an dich zum Abschluss und ich hoffe auch, dass dieses Gespräch den maximalen Mehrwert für unsere Zuschauer bringen wird. ruhig öfter anschauen. Ich glaube, das sind so viele Weisheiten, die heute irgendwie die du hast die sind so viele Weisheiten, die du uns heute irgendwie mitgeteilt hast. Das muss man sich teilweise auch zwei, dreimal anhören, damit es halt wirklich sagt und halt diese Integration, das ist halt das Schwierigste an der ganzen Formel. sich die Informationen reinziehen, überinformiert sein, das ist relativ simpel, aber halt das zu integrieren in sein Leben, das sind halt die Gewohnheiten. Und ich habe mir war kurz mit Markus Krall gesprochen, den ich so für seine Wortgewaltigkeit schätze und er meinte, das Gefängnis hat dicke Stäbe, aber was halt die Menschen nicht realisieren, es hat keinen Schloss. Und das einzige, was sie halt davon abhält, durch dieses Gefängnis hindurchzugehen, sind halt die Gewohnheit und die Gewohnheit ist halt die Integration, was du ja vorhin so beschrieben hast. und das halt irgendwie umzusetzen. Klar, geht natürlich unter medizinischer Anleitung, wenn du halt natürlich zu dir in die Praxis kommst, aber das halt so im Alltag da das ist natürlich so die größte Herausforderung.

Ja, hin den Gewohnheiten steckt eben äh auch eine Es sind auch biochemische Prozesse, ne? Also, wenn wenn alte Traumata, alte Überlebensstrategien an uns dran kleben und Gewohnheiten dazu führen, dass ich mich in diesem Raum irgendwo einigermaßen okay fühle, dann reicht das den meisten Menschen aus. Aber das System sucht nach Weiterentwicklung, möchte neue Erfahrungen machen und so kann es sein, dass immer mehr vom selben krank macht, dann wächst eben im Innern etwas Krebs z.B., Spiel, weil im Außen nichts weiter wächst, ne? Und das hat Rudiker immer sehr schön beschrieben. Wir wählen eigentlich nur die Ebene. Das ist ein sehr guter Punkt, da habe ich nie drüber nachgedacht. Es wächst was im Inneren, weil halt im Außen irgendeine Stagnation gerade stattfindet. Genau. Weil irgendwas verwurschelt ist. Und wie gesagt, die meisten Patienten haben heute einen Puls zwischen 75 und 85. Das war vor 10 Jahren und ich habe z Jahre in der Kardiologie gearbeitet. War der Puls noch zwischen 60 und 65. Heute sind die Menschen zehn Pulschläge pro Minute höher getaktet und die die zu mir kommen haben meistens Puls von 90 nicht. Das heißt sie laufen im permanenten Alarmzustand und im Alarmzustand ist Weiterentwicklung in dem Sinne, wie wir es meinen, sehr sehr schwierig, ne? Weil Alarmodus heißt, ich überleben jetzt, das heißt, ich bin sehr egozentriert auf an auf mein Überleben bedacht. sie vielleicht gerade noch meine Familie mit ein, aber ansonst denke ich nicht größer oder weiter. Und ein starker Wagusnerv ist der Türöffner zur Transzendenz, zur Herzöffnung. nicht erst wenn das System sicher fühlt, kann sich das Herz öffnen und jetzt kann Herzensweisheit mit einfließen im System, in unsere Denken, unsere Wahrnehmung und dann eben auch in unsere Entscheidungsprozesse. Und Herzensweisheit heißt, ich greife auf Weisheit, auf wirklich erfahrenes Wissen zurück und blabber nicht irgendwas nach. Mm.

Ingfrid, drei Impulse, kurze Antworten. Die größte Gesundheitslüger unserer Zeit. ist da draußen ist etwas, das macht dich gesund. Alles, was uns gesund macht, ist in uns. Je nachdem, wie wir auf Herausforderung antworten, entscheidet darüber, wie aufgeregt oder unaufgeregt, wie souverän, wach und klar wir durch das Leben gehen. Es ist unsere Entscheidung. Mit unserer inneren Haltung formen wir unsere Realität. M es gibt da draußen nichts, was uns in irgendeiner Form äh so beeinflussen könnte. Es ist unsere Antwort auf das, was von da draußen kommt. M das finde ich so philosophisch. Die Veränderung findet von innen nach außen statt und nicht umgekehrt. Richtig.

Wenn du auf einer einsamen Insel stranden würdest und würdest nur ein einziges unvernünftiges Lebensmittel mitnehmen, welches wäre das? ein unvernünftiges unvernünesch musste gerade spontan an die Frigadellen von meiner Mutter denken, die mich ab und zu noch verführt hat, wenn es darum geht, eben alte Gewohnheiten zu bedienen. Eine Mutter, die sich freut, wenn sie ihren Sohn Frigadellen machen kann und der Sohn dessen Biochemie sich freut, wenn es aufgespuralt Geschmäcker trifft. Also das Ungesste wären sicherlich diese besonderen Frikadellen mitzunehmen.

Du hast gerade deine weise Mama angesprochen. Ich glaube wirklich z.B. wenn du dir jetzt dieses ganze Essen der sizilianischen Mütter anguckst oder deiner weisen Mama anschaust oder meiner weisenmama anguckst, dass da so viel Liebe mit reinfließt. Das ist so diese Ahnen DNA, von der du vorhin gesprochen hast. Da fließt so viel Magie mit rein. Das ist das das ist das ein Heilmittel. Das ist jetzt nicht einfach so schnell zusammengeschustert, äh Frikadellen, die man die man sich bei Lidl geholt hat, sondern ich glaube, dass diese Lebensmittel, die man oder halt diese diese zu dies Lebensmittel, wo man halt ganz ganz viel Liebe reingesteckt hat, Präsenz reingesteckt hat, dass sie wirklich so ein heilenfaktor haben. Na ja, und auch die Wachheit. Ich denke immer gerne an unseren Helmut Schmidt, den man bei seinen letzten Fernsehsendung gar nicht mehr erkennen konnte, weil er so in seinen eigenen Rauchschwaden gesessen hat mit seiner genüsslichen Zigarette. Also, man muss auch anerkennen, dass ein ein wacher klarer Geist äh auch viel kompensieren kann. Mm. Nicht? Und wenn das noch mit dem frohen Herzen und einer gewissen Lebenseinstellung und Haltung zu tun hat, nicht? Und er war sehr sehr starker Beobachter von sich selbst, nicht? In dieser Position kann er diese Werkzeuge auch sehr gut am Laufen halten, weil er sich nicht so sehr identifiziert hat. hat immer aus einer inneren Souveränität gesprochen, also aus dieser Beobachterfunktion und von daher glaube ich, dass der Körper auch vieles ungesunde sehr gut wegkompensieren kann, wenn man einfach liebevolle, fröhliche Gedanken hat und sehr wach und sehr klar ist mit seinen Entscheidungen.

Ich reise oftmals in diese Region, um halt einfach auch so umgeben zu sein von so einer gewissen Energie. Du hast ja vorhin Bali angesprochen, da bin ich immer so zwei d Monate pro Jahr, weil ich halt das einfach so einatmen möchte. Das habe ich in der Großstadt wie Berlin nicht. Ja, genau die möchte, um einfach auch so wach im Kopf zu sein, um letztendlich einfach auch mich nicht so ja einfach so handlungsfähig zu bleiben, nicht zynisch zu werden bei dem ganzen Content, das glaube ich auch so unsere Aufgabe und ich finde generell Reisen ist echt so die beste Medizin. Ja, gerade Bali ist, ich meine auf dieser Insel tun die Menschen jeden Morgen eine kleine Opfergabe nicht bauen, indem sie ein Bananenblatt entsprechend falten. Da kommen Gewürze rein, da kommen Blüten rein, da kommt ein kleines vielleicht Nahrungsmittel, ein kleines Stückchen Obst mit rein und dann wird das vor die Tür gestellt. Du hast ja auch gesehen, wir waren ja auch beide gerade in U-Boot. Ähm vor allen Türen liegt es, vor allen Geschäften, jeden Morgen. Das heißt, eine innere Haltung, wo Dankbarkeit durch eine Aktion jeden Morgen zum Ausdruck gebracht wird. Demut, Dankbarkeit und ja einfach eine positive Haltung gegenüber dem Leben und dem, was da als nächstes kommen möge. Ja, und Menschen, die mit so einer Haltung in den Tag gehen, die sind anders drauf als bei uns, ne? Bei uns haben es die Kirchen so ein bisschen versemmelt, da ist das halt ein bisschen bisschen anders. Alles ist schade. Aber dort wird das praktisch gelebt und wir haben dort sehr gesundes, sehr herzoffene, sehr glückliche Menschen, nicht? Und wir haben ja jetzt bald oder ne. März ist ein Tag, wo die Menschen auf Bali einmal im Jahr alles abschalten. Da gibt's einen Festtag, wo alles ausgeschaltet wird. Kein Strom, kein Flugzeug, kein Auto, nichts. Menschen halten als Gemeinschaft, als komplette Inselbevölkerung inne, um ihren Gefühlen Danken und Inspiration ihrer Intuition zu lauschen, ne? ein gemeinsames Kommitment, das zu tun. Das ist schon eine Nummer und das würde ich mir natürlich wünschen, dass unsere Feiertage zu wirklich Feiertagen werden, indem wir innerlich feiern das Geschenk des Lebens. Das wä echt mal so ein schöner Ratschlag, ne, dass man einfach mal an so einem Feiertag alles runterfährt, auch kein WFi oder ähnliches, um halt mal wirklich bei sich anzukommen, aber wir werden ja an solchen Feiertagen komplett irgendwie so ein bisschen auch machen genau da weiter, wo wir am Tag vorher irgendwie aufgehört haben, ne? Und dabei haben wir jeden Abend auch den Feierabend, wir eigentlich auch das Leben feiern dürften, das als Geschenk, dass wir dass wir zelebrieren dürfen. Mhm.

Jetzt hast du so viele gute Impulse genannt. Eine ganz konkrete Handlungsempfehlung, um in dieser sehr hektischen, fragmentierten, chaotischen, verrückten Welt souverän zu bleiben, klar zu bleiben und halt nicht irgendwie zynisch zu werden. Erstmal tief durchatmen. Mhm. Und in der Ruhe liegt die Kraft. M und ein entspannter Mensch ist ein gesunder Mensch. M Aber das Wichtigste erstmal tief durchatmen. Dadurch kommt die Entspannung, dadurch kommt die Ruhe, dadurch kommt die Gesundheit. Atmen wird massiv unterschätzt und ich mache die Atentests auch. bemessen das Attenvolumen und wir sehen Menschen, die flach atmen, sind kränker als Menschen, die ihr volles Lungenvolumen auch mit jedem Atemzucht zelebrieren. Nicht und da liegt der Faktor 10 dazwischen. Das heißt, da ist im wahrsten Sinn des Wortes ganz viel Luft nach oben. Das hast du so schön ausgedrückt. Unser Motto war ja, unsere Herzen müssen am Ende höher schwingen als unsere Wunden. schreibt bitte unbedingt in die Kommentarspalte, ob jetzt irgendwie die Herzen geschwungen haben oder unsere Wunnen geschwungen haben. Und ja, ich danke dir vielmals für das Gespräch. Wir haben hier eine Tradition, die hat sich so in den letzten Wochen irgendwie so etabliert. Am Ende gibt's keine Homage auf den Gast. Das habe ich ja irgendwie durch das Gespräch irgendwie auch durchklingen lassen, sondern wir geben es auch einfach eine schöne Umarmung und ich finde das wird so dem Gespräch irgendwie halt auch so gerecht, weil wir sind jetzt so hoch geschwungen, jetzt müssen wir auf jeden Fall körperlich werden. Ja, dann ja, danke dir.

Ich bin gerade noch ganz berührt von meinem Gespräch mit Simo hier in Berlin und wir haben über Gott und die Welt gesprochen, wie man dieses Leben gestalten könnte, um mehr Lebensfreude, ja, mehr innere Souveränität zu haben, einen stärkeren Wagusnerv zu haben und welche Rolle unsere Biochemie dabei spielt, wie wir unser System regulieren können, wenn dieser mentale Durchfall, den wir im Moment so auf der Welt erleben, wenn der so überhand nimmt, Menschen im Alarmzustand sind, dich das vielleicht auch erwischt hat, würde Bitte doch einfach mal an, was wir da zu dem Thema zusammengetragen haben. war ein toller Austausch und ich bin ganz happy, dass äh ja Simo mich so herausgefordert hat heute am an diesem Tag und äh ja, danke, dass ich hier sein durfte und ihr dürft gespannt sein auf das, was wir da eben besprochen haben.