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Ryan, I want you to talk briefly about this incident that was very disturbing that I read about, um, uh, regarding an Iranian ship that got torpedoed by the US. Because it does just talk about how there is, I think, uh, a misunderstanding from from certain people as to the brutality of war, in in in in the in the sense of how how truly evil things that happen during a or are and how this is going to be seared into the minds of people. And it's so important for people in the US to stand up and go, yeah, this is not something that we co-sign. Could you just talk about that?
Yeah, this is a dark one. And and India is actually royd by this right now because it it implicates them. So the the Indians, uh, they love to project that they have hegemony in the kind of Indian Ocean. They're they're the ones that are going to, their navy's going to keep the Indian Ocean safe. And so toward that end, they they host this u bianual kind of, uh, little festival of ships. You know, I think 70 countries, including >> Iran and the United States >> um, sent uh ships to these two separate but related events. And they did a live fire drill.
>> And when did they do this?
>> When they did it from, I think, the February 17th to the 26th.
>> Gotcha.
Um, so it it wrapped up 48 hours before, maybe 36 hours before the war started.
>> Right?
Um, they they they they paraded on land. Uh, the US pulled out of one of the two of these little festivals, but did participate um in the other one with the with the Iranians. So like we're there like with them. Uh, as part of the kind of peace protocol for these events, you're only supposed to bring enough ammunition, you know, to like, you know, fire off, you know, during during your little events. You're not supposed to come all, you know, kitted up in a way that could cause, you know, serious problems because also you're out there doing these complex coordinated drills, >> you know, you don't want something to go wrong, right? Um, and so they they try to keep it as as safe as possible. And so then it, you know, it starts to head back to uh to Iran. And this is where we need more investigation. It appears that it um was then held at a port for something like 11 hours um near Sri Lanka.
Yeah. Or or Sri Lankan port.
>> Which we now people are suspicious was allowing kind of the nuclear this nuclear sub to catch up to it.
>> Um, there there's also, uh, the question of like, how did they find the exact location? There's some in in India, they are speculating that the US exploited its kind of joint intelligence network that it has built with India to get into the Indian system. And then because the Indians and the Iranians were, you know, they invited the Iranian ship and then they say goodbye to the Iranian ships, so they knew exactly where it was. So then they they the nuclear sub um, you know, finds the ship and torpedoes it. And then the the laws of war, the Geneva Convention say that if it doesn't put your own ship at risk, you are obligated under international law to try to save drowning sailors. Like you have to do the bare minimum. Also under the kind of common sense of humanity.
>> Like you see somebody drowning, it's it's like a meme. You see somebody drowning, like >> throw them a rope, right? Like that's what that's what we do.
>> We we prosecuted a Nazi at Nuremberg for not doing that, >> right?
>> Um, but in often the Nazis did do it, which is like >> we're below we're below them at this point.
So Sri Lanka's navy um had to come out and and get there as fast as they could. And they managed to save, I think, 32 people from drowning. Uh, more than 80, uh, Iranians, uh, died in the died in the attack. And we and we posted the video as a with the caption something like, this Iranian ship thought it was safe, suckers, you know, you're not.
Um, and so now the Indian, so this is interesting too. The Indian government is under enormous pressure because this is, you know, slap in the face to them. If you noticed yesterday, >> uh, Trump lifted sanctions on Russia when it came to selling oil to India. Remember a few months ago, the biggest thing thing that Trump was worked up about was that India was buying oil from Russia. And he's like, I'm going to do 25% sanctions for tariffs. I'm going to do 50% tariffs. You stop buying oil from Russia. Uh, now it's all fine. India can buy oil from Russia and we're lifting the sanctions on Russian oil. That to me feels like, uh, kind of blowback from this, like right?
>> That Modi is like, I need I I need something here. You're you're killing me at home. You made us look like fools. How do you >> Now Putin will get billions out of this.
>> What do you think China and Russia, what is the lens through which they're viewing the current Iran conflict?
>> You know, there was this really interesting argument being made by a guy for, uh, Barry Weiss's news outlet, um, Jav Ringer. He's like,
>> "Yeah,
>> he's like one of the smartest um Israeli analysts out there." And so they they sent their like their brightest light out there to make the best possible case they could that the war on Iran that the US is waging is not actually for Israel. It's actually about China.
And he lays out this case that there's oil that that get China gets from Iran. You can go go read his case.
>> Yeah.
But it it falls apart extremely quickly because yes, it's true that Iran exports something like 80 to 90% of its oil to China. So you're like, "Oh, you see that number, you're like, "Wow, that really involves China a lot." That makes up something like 5 to 15% of Chinese imports, >> right?
They have plenty of oil that they can get from elsewhere. And also think about it. If we replace this government, if we manage to do a regime change and we put in a new government that Donald Trump says is wonderful, like finds finds his Deli Rodriguez, why would that country not sell oil to China >> to China?
>> Like that that >> would make no sense.
>> Of course.
Yeah. They'll sell it to they'll sell it to everybody. Like they'll they will still be a country, >> right?
>> It will still produce oil.
>> Yeah.
Would still have an economy and it one of the the driver >> still going to have an economy unless unless Haviv is saying that what Trump really wants to do is blockade China from buying oil from anybody around the world, like is that >> and I'm sure China would have something to say about that.
>> I think they might think they might.
>> What do you think about the chances of boots on the ground coming, not coming?
>> I think special, I think the chances of special forces are getting pretty high.
>> Reportedly, we sent Kurdish troops in ready with special forces.
>> And then >> and then as we reported actually >> you guys >> immediately it wasn't true.
>> So that was fascinating. That was >> that was leaked by the Israelis, it seems um, that the invasion, not the invasion is going to happen because you can you can get that wrong or you know, and then it doesn't end up happening. They said thousands of Kurdish fighters have invaded Iran and are currently, you know, fighting inside Iran. That was the reporting from a bunch of outlets. Um, and it clearly seemed to be sourced from Israel. We we talked to all of these different Kurdish sources and all of them are like, this. No, it's not happening. Like, not not casting judgment on whether it should, but it it literally is not happening about. And then and then this Kurdish, this Iranian Kurdish base inside Iraq was bombed, which maybe it was from Iran who thought that the reports were true. Maybe it was from Israel who's like trying to rile them up and say, you need to go in there. We we don't know. Um, but it's not happening. Like, so the invasion is not happening. So the US is putting enormous pressure on them to go in. The problem is in 1991, we we told the Kurds to rise up in northern Iraq.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, they rose up and then Saddam massacred them.
>> It's always the.
>> Yeah. We then supported them in Syria.
>> Yeah.
>> To go against ISIS.
>> And a couple months ago, we sold them out.
>> Right. Right.
So there so the Kurds have been saying publicly, got like, all right, 1991, that's one thing. And also all of the betrayals going back hundreds of years, but like >> 91 is one thing. You sold us out like two months ago.
>> Right. Right.
>> You know, that's insane.
>> Yeah. It's unbelievable.
>> So you think we're like, but they're still they're still calculating like, you know, cuz they're under a lot of pressure to do it. And and you know, Bush and Obama were actually pretty decent for northern Iraq, the Kurdish region. So they're kind of, but they're they're comfortable too. They're like, we we've got our autonomy. We're happy. Like
>> Yeah, why get involved?
>> Like
>> What do you think? You know, I'm hearing the Qatar basically saying, we want to pull our money out of the American economy. Saudi Arabia, you know, saying similar things. You know, people are really upset out there. I mean, this could be a massive um, you know, collapse financially here. I mean, what do you what what is Jared Kushner doing right now? Is he calling these people on the phone going, "Hey, relax."
Yeah, he's got to because he's um so much of his business relies on the Gulf economy continuing to produce oil and gas and and dollars and then funneling those dollars into the griffs that the Trump organization, the Kushner organization are are operating. You know, set aside the entire AI griff that is the US economy at this point. Uh, also it obvious, this should be obvious to people. Um, but that stuff is the backbone of everything else. Like you you if you if the oil and gas stop coming out, we stop making aluminum, we stop making chlorine, right? Like you we stop making the >> copper, like the the basics of our economy. And then we can't make semiconductors. And then like >> and that happens as it's it's almost as if people forget like March 2020, like you remember how quickly >> right >> like the entire world fell apart from supply chain shocks.
It wasn't that long ago. It's like >> so that that is that that is kind of Iran's strategy, I think, is to is to say like, they they cannot not withstand like they are already driven to absolute poverty and desperation by our sanctions, >> right?
>> So they're already there. So they can they can weather.