Adult Film Star Angela White Opens Up About Everything Sex | Ep 191

[Music] Angela White, what? What? How did this happen? I met you at the premiere of "The Roast," and it all went crazy from there. Why do I feel like as soon as we met, we were friends? I don't know, but something about the way you touched me, which sounds... I, I need to watch it. Apparently, yeah, you, you grabbed me and I was like, "Wow." Like, in my head, I was like, "Wow, she's really touching me." But I mean, no, I, okay, so Angela White is coming forward with an allegation. No, no, I'd rather not be here for this. I feel like this is supposed to be between you and your lawyer. No, you, you grabbed me in a way I was impressed because a lot of people don't really touch each other in LA. Like, it's very like, there's no meaning behind it. Your actress, the producer will touch you as much as you want, um, at the Christmas party, uh, and as much as you don't want, frankly. But we hadn't met. I knew you were coming. I knew of you a little bit. It's not that I don't know you really well, um, because I know how famous you are. I had, you know, Alex from OnlyFans had sent me, you know, a list of who was coming and I was like, "Oh God." And I, I, I didn't totally know, but I could feel that you were someone. Does that make sense? Well, like, I could feel you have star energy. Thank you. And your, yeah, and your eyes, I, are wild, and we connected, and it was a very, um, chaotic situation. And I went up to, like, hug you or something. Yeah. And I'm so grateful that you came. Oh, I was so happy to be there. I had so much fun. It was great. I just, like, I can only really, I am so at ease around sex workers because it's... Comedians. Same. Same. Yeah. You know, we're giving our, uh, you know, it's like, I don't use it. Very vulnerable. Yeah. Like, yeah, giving your body to people for their, you know, enjoyment. We give our emotions and insecurities and etcetera. So it's, it always just feels very safe to me. Yeah. Yeah. I hope because we were on a podcast together recently and you were like, "You hugged me really hard at that party." And I was like, "Is she gonna sue me?" No, I am not going to sue you. I would like you to do it again. No, I, you, you're interested if I don't do it again. Yeah. Like, if you don't keep hugging me like that, it's over. You, you, we were on the red carpet or the blue carpet because it was for OnlyFans. Yeah. And you, you grabbed me and you looked into my eyes and I was like, "Wow, she's real." Yeah. And we hugged. Yeah. Enveloped. Yeah. And you have, you have such a warmth to you. And I get, and I don't know why that's surprising. I think in some way, I'm very intimidated by you, uh, and what you do because I admire it so much and I, I'm scared of it, you know. I think people tend to think stand-up comedy is the scariest thing, the hardest thing, the most, uh, embarrassing thing, or the most, um, the thing that requires the most amount of courage. But I look at sex work and I go, like, that, see that, I am, you know, that's where I get. Well, I think we do the thing. We both do the things that people find the scariest. It's public speaking and being naked in front of people. Yep. So that's, yeah. Has this been like, what? And I'm gonna just start from the beginning. Okay. At what point in your life were you, did you become sexual? Did it become comfortable? Like, how? When was this? This is my life. This is my dream. This is my future. 14. 14. 14 is kind of like, that was when everything started happening. That's when I developed my breasts. That's when I was super sexually expressive. This big off the jump. It pretty much. Not quite this big. Um, at 14, I was a double D. So, and then they just slowly grew after that. But it felt like overnight. Like, I was 13, flat-chested. 14, double D. Tits. I had a girl in my school that had, she was very, very short, shorter than you, and she had such big boobs. It was like a problem. Like, she had back problems. Yeah. Kate Upton's a good friend of mine. She, you know, she had trouble breastfeeding. Like, she's like, "Big boobs are kind of a traumatic." Chelsea Lynn, who's OnlyFans trailer trashed Tammy, when she said she couldn't play sports because they would hit her, they'd hit her in the face. I'm like, "This feels like a fucked up karmic punishment." Um, and were they, was it when they, what was your experience when they started coming in? Because I think very few people are like, "Oh, you have big boobs. I feel so bad for you." But it must be kind of confusing. It is. I mean, they're a blessing and a curse. I mean, I, for me, they're mainly a blessing. But, um, I did get that time. Okay, so before you were like, "These are gonna make me an iconic millionaire." So before that, I mean, at 13, all my other friends had developed, so I was flat-chested. So I would cry myself to sleep because I didn't have tits. And my mom would always say, "Don't worry, you're gonna get tits, and you're gonna catch up, and you're gonna overtake everyone." Which I didn't believe her at the time. Yes, everyone in my family, both my grandmothers have big tits. So it's like, both sides of the family, big titties. All my cousins, my sisters, everyone has big tits. But at 13, not having, like, I had nothing. And my friends had tits, even if they were B, C cups. I'm like, "I'm a horny woman that wants to express and explore myself, and I have no tits." And I felt like tits were the ticket. What do you mean? You're at 13? Were you masturbating at that time? Yes. That, I was trying to think when you came on. I was like, "When did I masturbate first?" Like, I, does any, do people remember? Like, I just wrapped my head around my losing my virginity thing story, like remembering. But I don't remember when I figured that out. See, I was doing like sexual self-pleasuring things before I knew what masturbation was. Because I think about what I did with my friends when we were kids, and like, humping like the dolls and things like that, which is basically masturbation, you know. So, so just so you're with Australia? Yeah. Everyone, this is where they sent the criminals. They sent the criminals to an island to go hump dolls. I don't think that's why. But that is what ended up happening. [Laughter] So casually. Yeah. I, I don't, I didn't do hump dolls with your friends. Yeah. With my friends. Yeah. We did it together. Like, we would do these little ceremonies where we would get married to the soft toys and then we would hump them because we'd have to consummate the marriage. So we would hump. We would be in bed together, side by side, humping the dolls. Yeah. And we would, you know, make our Barbies have sex and stuff. I mean, that wasn't masturbation, but we were, yeah, exploring sex and sexual ideas. Was there, do you remember seeing images in movies or magazines that like led to it? Or no? Nothing led to it. I, I do remember seeing like, naked people in movies was so exciting. I remember like, the full frontal nudity in "Life of Brian." Like, that was just so exciting. My name was household. Like, my, you know, I had family members that cheated and stuff. And I would go to the mistress's home and like, see stuff. Oh, wow. Yeah. I remember like, I've, there was the household. There were women in the house naked, coming in, coming out. And I kind of, I think, and I can't, I can't really delineate whether it was like, "Oh, this is sexual. I'm into sex," or it's like, "Oh, this is what gets my dad's attention, so I should do that, look like that." Or exactly, you know what I mean? Like, it was kind of like at a very early age. At an early age, I was just so fascinated with naked bodies and sex, even if it wasn't like a sexual thing. Bodies are just so ridiculous. And it's sweet that we are not allowed to see them. How can you see it? Let a kid love a moon bounce, but not jump on titties? Same. Same. Yeah. Soft, bouncy things.

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I, I was that weird kid at school in the back of the library reading all the sex books. Like, there's a book called "Where Did We Come From?" which had all the cartoon illustrations of naked people in reproduction and reproductive organs, and that was fascinating to me. And I was, you know, I knew I wasn't supposed to like, look at it every single day, so I'd always go to the back of the library to like, stare at these cartoon images. So I've always been fascinated by sex and sexuality and naked bodies. But was there a religion in your house at all? Because I think maybe the, in Marigolds, before there's just such a religious shame, like a fabric of shame that underpins everything that I feel like it was so. I was brought up Christian, but it wasn't like a super strict religious household. Um, my mom was really open with me about sex and masturbation. Um, she's a photographer. Cool. Yeah. So it makes sense that I ended up on the other side of the screen. Um, but yeah, she, she was really open with me. Like, she gave me a copy of, um, "The Sheer Height Report." Do you know this book? Sherry Hate wrote this book in the '70s. Um, and it basically surveyed women on their sexual experiences and on masturbation and how they masturbated because she wanted me to. She actually asked me, like, "Do you know how to masturbate?" At what age? I can't remember what age. I want to say it was around 14. It was around that age. And so she gave me this book, and in the book, women detail the ways to... You by Sherry Hate. Yeah. Wow. So she, so in the blue card. Yeah. It's a great, it's a classic text. And, um, women detail the ways that they actually masturbate. And so it was, you know, from reading that book that I got a mirror and looked down at my vulva and figured out, like, where's the clitoris and learned how to master. The first time you put the mirror up, it's a real, it's, yeah, it's, it was good to have, have to have studied so many illustrations. I knew kind of what it was supposed to look like, so it wasn't so. Yeah. Yeah. So I was messed up. Why does this look like my laundry basket? Did she, was she very involved when you were like going through puberty and having your period and stuff? Yeah. So when I, um, so she knew at the, like, when I had a boyfriend, she knew that this was probably going to be the one that I lost my virginity to. So even before, like, that happened, she was like, "You know, if you want to have sex, like, let's talk. I'll give you some condoms, all that kind of stuff." And then when I lost my virginity, she gave me like a present, like a losing your virginity present. Yeah. She bought me some lingerie. Oh, yeah. My mom was my mom was great. Turned down for what? Yeah. She's great. Damn. And was she married? Yes. What's his deal? Um, I mean, what do you mean, what's his deal? With, like, he's, it's just, he's just, what's his, what's up with him? What's up, Dad? I guess I'm just like, I don't know. I don't even know how to talk about dads. I mean, I didn't, I didn't have the same, I did, I didn't have the same relationship with my dad. Like, me and my dad weren't open about sex. Yeah. You're about to get slammed. Mommy's, Mommy's girl. Totally. Yeah. I think there's this sort of, um, I don't want to say stereotype, myth, whatever, that like, if you like sex a lot, your dad must have failed or something. And I think I always try to challenge that. Yes. You know, I think most people like sex. Yeah. Yeah. Regardless of what, you know, what's up with Dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so you're in Australia, and then you, you lose your virginity at what point? Are you like, when you lost your, like, did you enjoy it? When do you start enjoying sex? Because I think for most people, sex is not, this is not the experience. Yeah. You know, so I'm just so curious if, you know, I, maybe had the way that you had a positive relationship with comedy. I'm sorry, the way that you had a positive relationship with, um, sex. I developed a positive relationship with comedy earlier. Yeah. With my, it's like, when traumatic things would happen or bad things would happen, like jokes would cut the tension and everyone would laugh, and I was like, "Okay, this is the thing. This is what's, you know." So it's like, obviously that's where the Pavlovian sort of like desire to keep doing that, you know, came from. Um, but I'm curious like, because most people, I think losing your virginity is kind of like, usually not a great. That's not great. Yeah. If I, I'm like, yeah, it wasn't like I was having like multiple orgasms and, you know, it was the best sex of my life. Nothing's, it was the peak, you know, like, you know, and then it kind of taints it. And then you're so, and because maybe America is a little bit different because it's a lot of like furtive, you know, religious shame. You're dry humping in closets and getting your braces stuck on someone's cock ring. It was just like, it's, you don't really have good sex. So you're like, 30 in America. Um, so there was sort of a relief after I lost my virginity because there was so much like, the virginity thing, like, there's so much tied to that, like, it's so important, you know. And a lot, and leading up to losing my virginity, I'd done basically everything else. Like, I was just sucking dick all the time because I was like, "I could, I loved sucking dick. It was so much fun for me because I was like, this is a way for me to be sexual, but I can still protect my precious virginity." Yeah. You know, I can suck anyone's dick, that doesn't have to be special. But popping the cherry, that has to be with someone I love, and it has to be beautiful and wonderful and something that I'll remember forever. So once I, once I lost it, I felt relief because I'm like, "Oh, no, I can fuck anyone I want because like, I made the first time special, so now it doesn't matter." I enjoy sex for a myriad of ways. It's not just like the pleasure I feel in being touched in my body and the orgasm and things like that. Like, I enjoy connecting. I enjoy being naked with someone. I enjoy expressing and exploring. I like, I just loved exploring things, even if I didn't like it, because I had, especially at that age, there were so many things that I had tried. So I'm like, "Yeah, what's it like to stick a finger in my butt? What's it like to, you know, whatever it is?" Like, there were so many things I hadn't done, so it was a really exciting time in my life. And now I still, like, when I'm having sex with someone, there's so many different ways that I can connect with someone, and it's always a new experience. So I'm always just curious, like, because you're so like, like, you're such a ray of light, there's just an orb of like positivity. And I just feel like when someone, something's going well for someone, someone discovers something. And I think for a lot of people's sex, like, you didn't have it tainted and shamed. It doesn't seem like before you did it, and then after you did it, it doesn't seem like there was a lot of slut-shamey, whatever. So, oh, there was. Yeah, because I'm like, "How have you not gone dark?" You just, I'm just trying to find the part in this trajectory because, like, you know, I'm, you know, I think most women would probably be like, you, uh, point of view wise with sex. And I, I wish they could be. But I think so many women either got embarrassed or ashamed, whether it's hate their bodies or got slut-shamed or, yeah, bad sex or whatever it is. Oh, yeah. I got slut-shamed like crazy in high school. That's what ended up leading me into porn. So basically, I turned 14, I get rid of my virginity, and I'm like, "Oh, it's on now. I can fuck everyone." So I was fucking guys, I was fucking girls. I was slut-shamed for every way that I expressed my fucking girls. Was that like, I just want to learn about it? Or like, I'm attracted? Both. Both. I wanted to, I wanted to try everything. I was attracted to women, but that at that time, that wasn't cool. It wasn't cool to kiss girls. So that was probably the thing that I was shamed for the most was having a girlfriend in high school. What? Yeah. That was like, not, and I guess at the school I was at, it was just like, there was so much in high school, like, like dating full-on. And I actually was made to apologize at school assembly for kissing my girl in the quadrangle. Like, like heterosexual couples could kiss all they wanted, but because I kissed my girlfriend in the quadrangle, that was considered making a scene. And we were made to apologize to the school. Like, I went through a lot of trauma in high school for myself. "Angela Wade, I'm sorry for giving all the teachers erections on the quad earlier. That was my bad." Yeah. Fucked up. You had, I had to apologize. I went through some fucked up stuff in high school for because of my sexuality. And the other thing, okay, so high school, which is, by the way, the fact that I look back now and I'm like, the high school prom, homecoming, Sadie Hawkins, these, why are these? You guys are just like encouraging the students to stress out, obsess over who they're going to invite and eventually fuck at the end of May. Like, all, like, that is so spooky to me. The fact that they have any judgments when it's just kind of like a weird, like, breeding program. Not as big of a deal in Australia, the whole prom thing. Oh, really? Yeah. In America, it's, it really breaks people. Yeah. You're, and I are best friends, and we're in high school, and then the quarterback asks you to prom, and then all of a sudden, we're not friends anymore. And then it's like, and then you go to the prom, and all the teachers are there watching us dance and kind of dry hump and like, sort of graze boners to "Take Me to Church" or whatever is happening. And then, you know, they're gonna have sex. That, it's just like, why are the teachers here? Oh, so are you guys like, when you have sex, why are you here for the foreplay? Like, what is this? Like, it's just, yeah. Okay. It's just like, I just find it very toxic. And it's taken this long for me to look back and go, like, that's bizarre. Like, just that we encourage. Anyway, so that's not a big thing in Australia. But because you had a girlfriend, um, by the time prom came around, I had a boyfriend. But if I hadn't had a boyfriend, I probably wouldn't have even gone. What happened with the girl? Just, I can't even remember why we broke up. But just didn't work out. It wasn't like, it was, we were dating, but it wasn't like serious. Nothing is really serious in high school. Yeah. But I mean, but to do that in high school is a big swing. What's the big deal? Because what, but if you, because like, I am dating a girl now, you know, and and someone else or whatever. So it's like, "Oh, good. She's Whitney. She's wacky. She has blue hair. She dates girls." You know, it's like, it kind of works. But like, that's a big swing. Like, for 14, 15, to be fully dating a girl at school because people are going, "You're a lesbian." Well, yeah. That's exactly. Lesbian. And so the slang at, at least in, at my school, for lesbian was "lemon." So we had lemons thrown at us. It was like, actual physical bullying. I got punched in the face. Yeah. Like, it was like, really hardcore. What I went through in high school. Imagine being a guy in high school thinking he has a shot with you, and then finding out he doesn't. Well, I, I was still fucking guys. We fucked guys together too. Like, it wasn't like they didn't have a chance. You need to have a shirt that's like, "Don't worry, you're, you're welcome here." You were punched in the face? Yeah. Once. Only once, thankfully. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of like, I have a boy or girl, a girl. So I'll tell you this. What a hand. I, I was always teased for being a lesbian. And this one girl just kept on like harassing me about it. And she just came up to me, she never like, had fully explained why she was bullying me. But she came up to me, she's like, "So, what are you? Are you a fucking lesbian?" And I said, "Why are you interested?" And I got smacked. Yeah. And turns out she was a lesbian. Actually, a couple years later. A couple of years later. There's other ways to touch me. Okay? You don't have to punch me to touch my face. Like, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, honey. Do you feel like, looking back now, with that, not to like, for like, just to, you know, make excuses, but do you feel like that was internalized homophobia? Because she was, yeah, jealous. Yeah. It definitely, I mean, she obviously felt uncomfortable about the fact that I was expressing myself in a way that she wanted to or didn't know she wanted to. Just felt, she just felt uncomfortable about that. Do you think she'd, every time she comes, she thinks about hitting you in the face in high school? I hope she feels bad about that. I feel like whoever she's married to definitely thinks about that every night. Every time they fight. The thing that surprised me the most about being punched in the face is how little it hurt. Like the adrenaline. It's like stunning. Yeah. Like you have so much adrenaline. Comfort. You don't even feel the pain. I just was shaking with so much adrenaline. Yeah. When you really get injured, it's the same. I had, um, uh, when my ear was bitten off by a dog, I felt nothing. Like, my ear was like, hanging down. Felt nothing. Looked in the mirror. Got to in, as soon as I was like, cared for, as soon as I got to the hospital, they started like doing stuff. Then I was like, it's like your brain knows, you know? Like, something. They sense dopamine to the area or oxytocin, whatever it is. Um, I think it's, um, phenylethylamine, actually, to, uh, keep you feeling good so that you'll save yourself. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, uh, the girl that got her arm bitten off by a shark, Bethany, someone, Anthony Hamilton, Bethany Hamilton. She, she said that she heard the sound, but it felt like almost orgasmic when the shark bit her arm off. It sends so much feel-good chemicals to the area so that you'll fight for your life and not give up. Wow. I wonder if she thinks about that when she orgasms. Laughs. And she probably uses her nub. I mean, how does she even masturbate? What a bummer. She has another hand or what happened? Well, yeah. Was I don't know if she's left or right. Yeah. I mean, she must her, she has a nub now. Okay. Imagine if that is the best orgasm you've ever had in your life, and it never pays. That's a big one. The idea of like, "Oh, sex will never be as good as the shark bite." Sex with is great, babe, but getting bit by, getting my arm bitten off, that was that, that's my kink. Have you encountered any extreme kinks? And do you have any intel for me on the kink front of where, where they come from? I'm pretty fascinated. Um, with no judgments. No, no, no, no. I actually, I mean, I get a lot of interesting requests on OnlyFans. Um, I wouldn't say they're extreme, they're just like, very creative. There's like the, the vore. So their kink is making you go, "Huh? I gotta go to, I gotta go to, I gotta go to Michael's." There's a, there's a lot of like, yeah, like I have to, you know, they want me to cover myself in cake or something. Or, oh, yeah. Um, all the, the eating ones where you eat them. Well, they're shrinking. No, no, like you eat. So, um, I have a lot of guys who like shrinking fetishes. So I used to do them a lot on webcams. So I would like, make a special lemonade that would actually have a secret potion in there. They wouldn't know that, and then they'd drink it, and they'll be like, "Oh my God, what's happening?" And start to shrink. And so I take the webcam and slowly put the webcam down on the floor as I laugh maniacally. Um, and then I would play with them as, but it wouldn't always be sexual. Like, sometimes they just want you to put them in your pocket or put them in between your cleavage and just carry them around. That is, that, first of all, that is darling. It's cute, right? That is precious. So kinks, kinks, I want to send you this one that I did recently, actually, because I think it's still on my phone. Hang on, let me find this for you. Waiting. I, what is, what I would like to, I'm gonna call Shark Tank. I would, what service would allow me, how much money would it cost to just go on your phone for a minute? Just through your, just through your photos, third videos. I'm gonna add drop this to you. Hopefully, it's the right one. Why is my boobs? Please, I hope you can send into things by opening this message. Yeah. Okay. So that's what a recent one that I did, a little custom for the vore. "I am so hungry, and you look like such an incredibly delicious little snack. I hope you don't mind if, um, I get straight to it. I think you're gonna digest pretty quickly because I've been hungry for a while. In fact, I'm salivating just looking at you. I might just swallow you whole. So, um, here we go." [Music] This is literally so many men. Oh my gosh, Jay, you are delicious to be eaten. To be eaten. Like, little, be shrunk and then eaten. I'm gonna call it "Army Hammer" and figure out how to eat people. Man, that's where the money is. Like, what do you think that is? They want to be inside you in a different way. I never ask why because I don't want, I don't want anyone to ever get in their head about their father. I don't know why. Yeah. I just am fascinated. I'm fascinated too, but I just, I just never. I'm like, "You know what? If they wanted to tell me, they'd tell me." Maybe they don't even know why. Maybe they don't even want to know why, right? So I just, I'm like, "All right, doesn't matter." Like, but I think there's, because it's not about, you know, for me, whenever there's something going on with me that's a compulsion or an obsession, I'm like, "Oh, let me figure out what this is so I can change it or fix it or heal it." Or, but, um, but with kinks, like, my kinks are always pretty, uh, helpful information. You know what I mean? Like, mine are like, "I, so embarrassing. I'll do it. Let's go." Like, things you fantasize about when you're masturbating or having sex, whatever. Very big into like, "Now workers at my house." Not the ones I currently have, but workers that are just killing it at my house, politely asking to come in the house. "Should I take my shoes off?" And I'm like, "No." And then they just fuck me and go back to doing great work. That's hot. Agree. Yeah. But like, in my brain, I'm like, "Oh, I really just want competent workers." I'm turned on like, because I've had incompetent criminals doing work on my house. Like, I, it's in good information. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, "I need to make a change with my construction crew." Yeah. I, I understand. Yeah. Makes sense. I think a lot of my fantasies now revolve around me doing less. So because, well, because in porn, I'm so active. I'm basically doing cardio. I'm on top, I'm riding, I'm, you know, getting fucked upside down. I do so much. So I just want to get tied up now. I just want to get tied up. How do I, how do I become a bottom? Yeah. How do I be fucked? Like, how does someone fuck me and I do less? Of a comedian doing crowd work. We're like, "What are you? Can you do this for me?" It's like, "Can you, where are you from?" Like, that's, same. Same. I've done a lot of work up here tonight. I'm in the same. I've just turned 40 and I'm like, "What do you do, sir?" Uh, but so when it comes to getting into, when did you decide, "Okay, this is something I want to do for a living?" Okay, so that's going back to all the bullying and the slut-shaming that I experienced in high school. So pornography was the first place I saw women being celebrated for fucking a bunch of people. I mean, you know, it's been, it's, it's Hedy Lamarr is someone I'm obsessed with. She was a, um, uh, what was the year? Let me find. Hedy Lamarr, who has now been linked to, uh, uh, being fundamentally, uh, I don't want to say she invented Wi-Fi, but fundamentally involved in the, the invention of Wi-Fi. Um, she was an actress who was Austrian, and she did a movie called "Ecstasy" in 1933, and it showed her having an orgasm on camera, and she was so publicly shamed and disgraced that she moved to America, became very famous in America. I don't think anyone wouldn't even know. I don't think the people running Hollywood wanted anyone to know that was even on the menu. [Music] Orgasms just don't. That's not even a, that's a myth. That's really fucked up. So could men orgasm? Always. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That's really why misogynistic. Yeah. Yeah. Wild. So, so I never saw sex being pleasurable to women. It was always just like, marriage, marriage, marriage. Whichever Disney movie, every rom-com, you know, it was all about saving yourself for marriage. It was never like enjoying sex. Well, that's why porn was so incredible for me. It was like this progressive space where I was like, "Oh, wow, women are allowed to have fun, be naked, fuck men, fuck women, and they're celebrated for that rather than criticized for it." So I was like, at 14, I was like, "That is what I want to do." And what was it? Do you remember the first porn you saw? I don't. Okay, so I saw a couple of different things. Um, I don't remember the name of the movie, but I saw some really weird movie with my, with my soon-to-be boyfriend and his friend, um, where these male performers were wearing lamps. They were naked and they were wearing lampshades over their heads. I mean, yeah, and they end up getting their dick sucked and fucking. It was very odd. I don't know what movie that was. And then the, the thing still never found it to this day, but we still have a thing for lampshades. No. Um, but the, the thing I remember the most was I had this Penthouse Letters, and there was this blonde woman laying there covered in lace and pearls, and she had this huge smile on her face, and she was looking directly down the lens, just like staring into your soul with this big smile on her face. And I was like, "Fuck yes, I'm gonna be happy in porn. Like, this is where I can be myself. This is where I can express myself. This is where I can be me, and everyone's gonna love me for it. I can express and explore sex in a safe place with like-minded peers." So, yeah, 14, I was like, "I'm gonna be in porn." That is, that's wild. I spent the next four years researching it, figuring out what companies could be safe to work with, because obviously there were still a lot of myths surrounding the industry about it just like being a place where, you know, all the women are pimped out and drug abused and what. So I, I did my research. Like, I was really serious about figuring out how I could get it. You approached it as a business. I did approach it as a business. Did you research any porn stars that came before you? That's actually one of the reasons I ended up working. So the first company that I worked with was The Score Group, and they were flying in models. So they're based in Miami, Florida, but they were flying in models from around the world. And I was like, reading this is at the time, it was magazines, they had DVDs and stuff too, but it was like magazines were the easiest things for me to get my hands on. And they kept coming back, these models. I was like, "They'd fly them into Florida, they'd fly them into the Bahamas, or they'd fly them into Europe." And I was like, "Oh, here they are in in Prague." And then like a year later, they're in the UK. I'm like, "Well, these models wouldn't keep flying and shooting with this company if they were treating them poorly." That was that was all the research that I could, that I had, and I was like, I went into it with them as much. Now there's so much. I was right. Okay. Yeah. I was like, I was right. Trust me. I'm like, that could have gone either way because I'm like, you moved to LA and you're like, "Well, that's Harvey Weinstein guy." All these people wouldn't work with him if he was really great. Seems like they just keep winning Oscars. Well, this was, this was with the knowledge that I could garner as a 14-year-old. Now, like, yeah, that you can listen to a bunch of podcasts where porn stars talk about their experience. At the time, that was the best information that I could garner at the time, and thankfully, I was right. Did you tell your mom about your plan? Yeah. When she said, well, she was worried. Yeah. I was not as worried as my mom when I told her I was gonna do comedy. Oh, can I tell you? You know, it is, it is just, it's good. Look, like stand-up comedy, sex work, we go hand in hand in so many ways. Sorry if that was a weird double entendre. But, uh, like comedy in America, I mean, comedy started in America essentially. Stand-up comedy, there was the court jester. That, but the court jester's job in Europe was to, you know, joke around with the king and make jokes about the king to make sure the power hadn't corrupted him, you know, or, uh, created some kind of like ego-maniacal brain disease. So joke with the king, and if the king didn't laugh, people had to go like, "Oh, we're worried." You know? Or the jester's job is to deliver bad news in a silly way and, you know, keep things light. And the, um, courts. But, um, stand-up comedy, it was very much like hip-hop invented in America and came up in strip clubs, you know, and we started this together. Vaudeville, Mae West, you know, Moms Mabley, etcetera. And, uh, and it's just so funny because it's like, I go, there's this, um, strip club in LA called Crazy Girls. We went to an after the Burt Roast. I wasn't, I didn't get to go, so I had to work the next day. So I was like, "I got it. I figured." Yeah. I just love it because it's like, it's more like bikini bar. Like, they're, it's not even topless, I don't think. Um, they have pasties and stuff. But, uh, but when I go, quite a lot, and when I go, uh, they're always like, "How you doing?" Like, they look down on us. They're like, "We, we exploit our bodies for money. You guys exploit like your depression." Like, they're like, "How are you?" Like, so it's like, you know, so, so anyway, so it just feels like so kismet. It makes so much sense this alliance with OnlyFans and comedy that has started to build.

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I do think it's interesting because I think comedians, you know, come from a lot of disapproval. But I feel like you, you have to come from in order to do what you do, you have to come from a lot of approval and comfort or, um, in terms of like, well, maybe in within yourself at least to start. When you started, you, it seems like you had a lot of support and structure and, you know, uh, safety. I'm, that's not so. I'm very privileged that my family is very accepting of what I do. And like, it was a journey. It wasn't like they were just like, "Super excited for me from the beginning." Um, but there are a lot of performers that don't have that, that do get ostracized from their family because there are a lot of jobs where it's like, "We'll accept it if you're the best." But in that, in that beginning period where you're making like, you know, 50 bucks a week, that's what, you know, what I mean? It's like, did you, was there a time when it was like, "Just wait till I can buy you pay your rent and then you'll be supportive?" Um, thankfully, they were supportive before the money came in, but it took so. In the beginning, um, so I, when I got into the industry, I mean, I wanted to get in at 14, obviously. I had to wait till I was 18. I had all those four years to like plan everything and get in. And when I turned 18, I was still in high school. So it was like a big deal that I was like, "Well, I'm gonna, I mean, I still, I stayed in school, but I left for two weeks to shoot porn and then came back." And I told my mom, I just turned 18, and I could have told her in a way that was a lot softer, but I was like, "Just so punk rock." I just was like, "I just, I didn't want anyone. I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion about it." Like, I had already done the research, I had already made up my mind, so I didn't want to leave an opening for her to say, "Oh, are you sure you want to do?" Like, I was sure I wanted to do this, and so when I told her, I was so blunt. And now I look back and I'm like, "I was so rude and mean." I was, I was 18. I just said, "I'm gonna go and shoot porn, and I don't care what you think." You know? And it's like, I didn't need to say it like that, but I felt like at the time, been shamed or something? Or yeah, I was just like, "This is, this is what I want to do, and I'm going to do it." And she was worried for all the reasons that any mother would be worried. I was only 18. I'd never been overseas by myself before. I was going to be flown over the other side of the world to the States. That is, if you're in Australia, is America like the place to go? Yes. Okay. Yes. I mean, like LA specifically is the headquarters of porn production. Nice. Yes. That's it globally. So, yeah, baby. Burbank. Yep. Porn Valley. So it's actually amazing because I know when a stu, so when you're shooting, shooting in studios or, um, you can tell which ones were built.

As porn stages because they have the most bathrooms, so I was just shooting this show, Cooper's Bar. It was, um, that Ray C. Horn. She's on Better Call Saul. She played my, um, friend on my sitcom. She's brilliant. And we're shooting out in, uh, Canoga Park, California. And it was like super spread out, and there's bathrooms in truly every room, every hallway. And that's where you're like, "Oh, this is porn." Yeah, we got to prepare. They put in extra bathrooms. Yeah, but that's that's part of the reason why LA is the perfect place for porn because we can piggyback off the Hollywood industry as well. I mean, obviously you guys are, yeah, you guys actually make money, you get to keep it. Your CEOs don't have yachts while you live in an apartment. A gardener. Well, things have changed now because of OnlyFans. I think, you know, it's it's gotten better for performers. Yeah, I want to hear, I want to get really dig into that. Um, my just question is like, are you studying a porn star? Are you looking up to someone the same way as a comedian? I was looking, I looked up to actually a lot of non-comedians too. I like, I kind of was like, I know I want to be an entertainer. And like, I looked up to Dennis Rodman. I looked up to Adam Sandler. I looked up to, you know, but also, you know, Richard Pryor and George Carlin. Whatever were there entertainers. Danny Ash. Danny, Danny Ash was like, she was the first big internet star. She was also, um, a woman with big natural breasts. And for me, like, I, I was praying for big boobs. So when they finally came, I was like, "Finally, my ticket to sex."

Did you ever get male attention that felt like, um, negative? You know, the male attention. I, I loved getting male attention. And now I look back at some of the attention I got and I'm like, "That was actually creepy." But at the time, I loved it. I loved getting older male attention. Yeah. So yeah, but now I look back and I'm like, "Why were you?" What are you? I was like, "Just because I liked the lollipop doesn't mean you should have given it to me." A weirdo. No, there were, there are many situations where at the time I thought, "This is cool." And now I look back and I'm like, "You were 40 and I was 14. And what were we doing?"

Australia. Yeah. Descended from criminals. Is that true though? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, but I think that's some of the most incredible talent comes from Australia. I think because of that, that criminal DNA, punk rock DNA. That's right. We have punk rock. Yeah. So you're looking up to Danny. I'm looking up to Danny. And not just because of the boobs. She was, she, she built an empire. She is the first internet queen. She created a business. She became a millionaire from just doing what she wanted to do, for expressing herself and showing her body. And like, she was a boss. So that's who I looked up to. I was always like, "I'm gonna make my own money. I'm gonna build my own empire. I'm gonna produce and direct. And I'm gonna make, I'm gonna own my content."

Did you ever think about stripping or any? I, I did for a little while. I, it just, I, I didn't like it. I, yeah, there was a lot like, yes, I, I like to go to bed early. Yeah. I also, I'm not, I'm not good at hustling. In that, I'm not good at hustling people. Yeah. Like, I'm very, I'm a very hard worker. But, um, that that interaction where you've got to try and get money from people. Like, it's much easier in porn. I'm just like, "Yeah, and the money comes. Like, I do what I love and the money flows." Right. It's attraction, not like, like, yeah, yeah. I just, I just wasn't great at it, to be honest. Um, so yeah, I did that for maybe six months.

Stripping is such an art. Like, I mean, it is. Like, I go to strip clubs to study. I mean, I learn as a performer. I learned so much. Just like the cut. Like, you just have to, you are the shit. Like, you just have to enter into that reality. And you know, and when the girls don't, you can tap. Like watching strippers that are kind of just like not into it, or kind of giving a lot, but you can tell in their eyes they're not into it. I'm like, "Sometimes I do that on stage where I'm like, giving it all, but the eyes." Like, you gotta be there. You got, like, you gotta. And if you're not, like, doing it for the love of the game, too. Yeah. It's always going to be, I feel like, an uphill. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't my thing. And I, I also did porn before I did stripping. So that was something I tried afterwards because I was like, "Oh, I'm so interested in sex and sex work. Why don't I try this? I'm sure I'll love it." And I feel like I'd lose an Achilles heel, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

So then you're getting into the industry. Like, in the beginning, was there, you know, like any business that is sort of your, uh, you know, sole proprietor? Like, was there, you know, I went to like open mics and, you know, you're dealing with people that are kind of like not at the top, yeah, that are sort of sketchy and shady. Like, that's not just a porn thing. That in the beginning, people take advantage of you and things aren't professional and whatever. Did you have like some rough? I was really lucky that I started with a really professional company. You know, I really did vet like every company that I worked for. I did all the research that I could on them. I would like ask people. I would ask around like, "What are they cool to work with?" So I, I was a diligent researcher.

There was a period in the beginning where, um, I just did go-go. So I wasn't ready to do boy-girl. So I, I took my every step in my career. I took at my own pace. Like, it didn't matter what kind of pressure I was getting from other people. Like, "Oh, you could make more money doing this." The way I've made my decisions, I've got this like, "Fuck yeah" mentality. It's like, "Am I fucking a principle?" Right. So if I think about something and my answer isn't "Fuck yeah," then I don't do it. Like, if there's any kind of niggling thought. And so, like, if it's not a hell yes, it's a no. Exactly. I love it. And so that's in the beginning. Um, when I would think about boy-girl.

Where did you learn that to trust your gut? I don't know. I really don't know. I just, you know, I, I guess like when there's a niggling thing that I'm like, even if I can't put my finger on why I'm not ready for something, that niggling thing is just so strong that I can't do it. Like, I just can't. God, that is like a Darwinian fucking advantage. Because for me, if there's like a, if I'm like, "Oh, someone's asked me to do this." Like, if I say no, what if they don't ask again? And what if I'm missing this opportunity? And then I'll force myself to do something against me and be like, "Why? You're just being scared. You're just being, you know, trepidatious because you're insecure." And I'll like, throw myself into things. I'm like, "I knew I shouldn't have done that. Why didn't I just trust my gut?" So I'm fine. It's taking me so long to get to that point. How amazing that you had it that young. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where that came from. To even say it like, I think for most people, it's like, "Even if I can't explain to you why or what's going on, the answer is just no." Yeah. I wish I had a perfectly eloquent explanation, but like, my gut saying no is enough information for me. That's awesome. Yeah.

So yeah, so I did, um, I performed for other companies for a number of years. And then I realized that even though that was a lot of fun, if I wanted to bring my own vision of sexuality to life and fuck how I wanted to fuck and wear what I wanted to wear, I was going to have to create my own production company.

So when you're doing it for someone else, do they give you the scenario? They give you the scene? They give you the everything? And you kind of, so you still have final say? You can obviously, you can say yes or no to anything. I didn't know that was obvious. Oh, you can, you can say yes or no to anything. Obviously. Okay. Not obviously. You can set, you, I'm telling you, you can say yes or no to anything. Um, so for example, I'll be told my screen partners ahead of time. If for some reason I don't want to shoot with them, I'll say, "Let's, let's try someone else." There's, you also want to be a team player. So they might say, "We're going to put your hair in curls." I don't like my, nowadays you won't see my hair. You're like, "Peep for this one." Yeah. I'm like, "No." There are certain things that I won't play. I won't do anything. Like, I've rejected a lot of scripts when there's any kind of like slut-shaming or even if it's like slut-shaming of a different form of sex work. Like, I refuse to.

And what does that look like? Like within it? Slut-shaming within, um, like, like looking down at someone who's like, um, doing other forms of sex work. Maybe they're an escort or a stripper. Or calling, like, if there's a line in a script where I call a stripper a slut or something. I'm just like, "That kind of thing." I'm just like, "I won't do that." Um, you know, certain scenarios. Like, but when you shoot for yourself, you choose everything.

From why is it that I don't like it when someone calls someone else a slut, but if you don't call me a slut while we're having sex, I will never have sex with you again? That's a different, that's a different thing. It's contextual. In the bedroom, I'm a dirty little slut. Not on the street. No, in the bedroom. In my home that I worked hard to pay for. It will, it should be said. Yes. That is the only time it should be said. But see, that's boundaries and consent. That's the difference. The stranger on the street saying that you're a dirty little slut, that is not cool. It's well, it's just like, little, little thank you. That's all I hear.

So you're like, I need to. Because this is, I mean, we have a very similar trajectory business-wise. You know, I got into comedy and I'm doing other people's shows and I'm like, "I'm never gonna be able to do what I do within this. I can't fit in here." Yeah. I'm not pretty enough to be the pretty girl. I'm not weird enough to be the girl. Like, there were all these like categories for actresses. And, you know, so you created your own category. Well, yeah. I have no choice. Yeah. It was sort of like the same. But see, I was also in my body type. Like, I was sort of like, um, too curvy for mainstream, but not quite big enough for, like, baby. Yeah. So I, my body type. Like, now thick is in. Now we have a word for it. What do you think that is? Do you think it's Kardashian? I'm sure that had something to do with it. Yeah.

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So that was the body type thing. And I was like, "Hi, I don't quite necessarily tell you that or you just go like, in the metrics or the numbers, you're like, I'm not hitting, uh, it." I mean, I, in Australia, we're kind of like 10 years behind when it comes to porn. Like, so wherever we are in the US, like, you show up to the porn set with fucking a giant bush of pubes. Everyone's like, "Ah, well, they, who invited Bigfoot?" When, like, America was starting to accept like thicker girls, like I was modeling in Australia, and they still wanted like, they wanted stick-thin bolt-ons. But I don't feel like that's what men want. Well, I think men want everything. And I think that there's a, there's a body type for every man. I think like Hollywood, then maybe like Hollywood, like didn't understand. Like the executives that were running Hollywood, they want anorexic like 22-year-olds. But people don't, you know what I mean? The internet democratized everything. That's what you're into. You're gay. You know, I'm sorry. Um, but, uh, but yeah, so it's like, you know, and this is something else I learned when I was doing all the research for the robot, which is the robot factory. The requests that come in for the custom dolls, the sex dolls, is a part of the reason they're struggling so much is that, um, the requests are usually to have girls that are bigger. They want bigger asses, bigger size. Yours is already so heavy. Yeah. They're just so cumbersome. They're more heavy than they're heavier than a human. I think so. And like dead weight. Yeah. Humans like help you care. Even it's like it's like carrying a drunk girl out of the bar. I mean, it's just truly dead weight. So there's that. They request, uh, nipples that are as big as the boob, darker nipples. All the stuff that you would not think would be the, uh, socially constructed standard of beauty. Oh, I think, I think, yeah. I mean, being in porn, I think the internet democratized pornography. Like, we actually saw what people wanted, which was everything. Yeah. Everything out of the sun.

Porn gets blamed a lot. That's this myth. The anti-porn feminists always talk about, "Oh, you know, like the rise of labiaplasty is because of porn." It's like, have you actually watched porn? Some of the top performers have really long, meaty lips. Like, it's not porn. Focus on the labiaplasties in South Africa on the kids. How about those? Maybe focus on those. But, um, yeah, I can't remember what the, oh, it was like creating my company so that then I could, uh, actually create the porn that I wanted where the things I wanted. Help. Like, did you, um, so, uh, in the beginning? No, I did everything. I edited my own movies. I mean, obviously. So I was coming across here and I was, I had my crews here in LA. So I would pick the videographer I wanted, pick the photographer that I wanted, I'd pick the male and female talent I wanted, the makeup artist. Like, I could do everything from the minute detail. And then I would go back home and edit all the content and create the product that I really wanted to see. What I wanted to see in porn. Oh, nice. Yeah.

Do you, did you watch porn at the top? Like, would you watch it or see what other people were doing? I watched a lot of porn. Yeah. Both for my own pleasure and as market research. You know, I was studying. Yeah. I mean, I just love the idea that's like, like female comedians being competitive, like watching each other's stuff being like, "Oh God, I was gonna do that. Oh, no." Well, when it comes to sex, it's like, there's only, there's only so many different positions you can do. It's really what you bring to those positions. And when, this is a very weird question, and I, today I was like, "Don't ask her that." But I think I should. Which is, um, it's very clear why you're as famous as you are and successful as you are. But why do you think you're such a star? In, does that make sense? Or why do you think people are so drawn to you? I think it's because I love what I do. I think it's because I'm passionate about it. I really, and that's clear and it comes through. Yeah. Which, you know, not to shame anyone who does it for the money. We all have to. That's fine. For the money. But it's like stand-up. I did it. Like, I was like, "I will do this for a hundred dollars a week for the rest of my life." Like, yeah. I was like, "If I make money at this, great." But in the beginning, I was not making money. Like, I was not. It really was just like a supplemental income. I was not. It wasn't my career in the beginning.

Did you work any other jobs while you were, uh? I mean, I was studying most of the time. So I mean, in the end, the money that I made from porn was a lot compared to what everyone else was doing, working at the university cafe or whatever. But, you know, I didn't have a lot of money. It wasn't until OnlyFans that I really started to make big, big money. Like, I just did it because I loved it.

So hold on. So you're doing films, you're doing your own stuff. OnlyFans comes along. Was that five years ago? Um, I feel like during the pandemic is when that's when it started cracking. Yeah. But I want to say, I think I had an account in, in 2018. I think. But I, I posted a couple of things. It wasn't, it wasn't really big. I was so focused on producing and and performing in studio porn that I wasn't focused on it at all. So I don't know that many people were making big, big money on OnlyFans until it blew up in 2020. Before that, that you were grinding on before it was like AngelaWhite.com. That was my own website. Now, like, now OnlyFans are so lucrative, that URL just links straight to OnlyFans because running your own website comes with a whole bunch of costs, like hosting and, yeah. So now it's just like, "Well, just go to my OnlyFans." But yeah, your website should be AngelaWhite.edu. I learn a lot. It's very educational.

So OnlyFans comes along. And is this like your first year? Trepidatious. But what are the, like, I mean, explain what OnlyFans has done for the sex work community and why it's so crucial. Uh, it's given, it's really empowered performers. It's, um, for many performers, it's been this source of income that allows them to have more options and make more choices. You know, like, I am lucky that I've been in a position for a long time to to make decisions when it comes to say, like, I can choose who I work with. And or I feel like I can choose. Anyone can. Are there certain performers that you just like have really good chemistry with, even though it's not, if it's not like, but you can still say like, "Good game" after? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's, I mean, the, the chemistry ranges from like, "Oh my God, like I love this person." To like, "Oh, they're a good friend and I can fuck them and we can give mutual pleasure, but it's not like, it's not like I want to have dinner with them or anything." Right. Sure. Sure. You know, like, "Give me the dick." And then there's actually quite a few like that that I'm just like, "I really like them as people, but I just often tell everyone to hear you speak." Yeah. Um, so there's that. So there's that. And and, um, there's actually very few people that I don't have some kind of connection with, whether it's sort of like, you know, on this, on the friendship spectrum. And, um, if, if I just have absolutely zero chemistry with someone, then they'll end up on my no list. Just because I don't want to go to like sex. I don't want sex to become a chore for me. Yeah. So if we have sex and I just can't find anything, like, and it's usually if, if they're just not present at all. Like, if they can't be in the scene with me, because you need to be in this space between us. If you're over there, I mean, everyone has a bad day. I don't, you know, if it's just a one-off, whatever. But if you're not really engaging in the sex and with me in some capacity, then I can't find a way to connect with you. And then I'm having disconnected sex. And then I feel horrible. Oh, you know, I just, yeah, I don't want to be like machine like robots fucking. Yeah. Yeah. That's my brand. Okay. I will sue you if you start doing that. Okay. That is, you already did the Two Broke Girls porn, so we're, we're pushing it on the copyright infringement. I'll send the robots to you.

But is there, do you, wow, that's fascinating to me with checking out during that. Is such a bummer when you feel like someone's checked out during sex and you're just like a blow-up doll. And you're like, "What are we doing?" Like, I feel like you're just jerking off with me with my pussy. Yeah. But do you ever worry that because I'll watch porn sometimes, I'm like, "Oh, they're falling in love." "Oh my God." Like, I'll watch, like, sometimes like when James Dean did that movie with, I think it was Lindsay Lohan. Oh, yeah. Back in the day, I like got really into his like things. Ah, I get really into his like videos. And I'd watch him and I'd be like, "He's in love with her. They're in love." And then I watch another. I'm like, "Oh, he's cheating on her." Like, he's. Is that part of his appeal? To he's so intense. And it's like, so, but how are you guys not falling in love? I don't get it. I'm too much of a love. Sometimes it's the worst. Yeah. Always. It's a really dangerous kink. But sometimes that's the craziest thing I've done in a porno. He's fallen in love for sure. Like, that's like, that's the thing. I'm like, "They have nine." She has nine dictionary. But they're falling in love. Oh, that is psycho. It makes the sex so much better though. Like when you have that kind of strong crush connection, whatever it is. That because if you're gonna make a woman come, you have to want. You have to be want her to do. You have to really pull a hammy. This, you know? But there's a lot of guys in porn that want to make you come. But it's still there. Then you, they're not in love with you. They're just. It might be, maybe it's an ego thing. You come if you're not emotionally connected. Yes. But it's better if I'm, if it's easier and better if I'm emotionally. I'm like, "I can make people laugh with a joke I don't believe in." Yeah. But, yeah, I would, I feel weird. I'd be like, "Well, if I do do that." Yeah. I can definitely. I can come because, like, as long as the motion is how it needs to be, I can still come. Yeah. But, yeah, obviously, like, using a sex toy or something. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you ever fantasize during scenes about something else? Or does that make it seem like you're elsewhere? Um, no, I usually, yeah, I'm usually within the scene itself because I think that's when you make the best scenes. Like, when you're truly connecting with your partner, like finding a way to really, like, yeah, look into their soul and like find a spot where we're both in, in it together. Right. Right.

Have you ever, like, been in a scene, it's not, and you're just like, "We have to reset"? There was actually, okay, so this was probably my worst day on set. And it's not even that bad. But, um, so I, it was from my own production. So I hand-picked this male talent. And I had done my market research. I'd watched a bunch of his scenes. And I was really excited to fuck him. So I was so excited. So we got, like, all. Do you, textbook? Did you talk before? Do you? No, no, no, no, no. Sometimes it's better not to. Yeah. Because you, I don't know him personally. And like, sometimes you don't want to learn too much about them because you just want the sex to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyway, we shot the sex stills. And we were, we started shooting the sex scene. And like, he wasn't fucking me like he had been fucking in his other scenes. And I was like, "Oh my God, he's trying to be this other guy." So, like, okay, so there's like some top male performers. Like, every, well, like, I don't want to like name names or like play any favorites. But there's, there's some, there's some male performers in the industry that everyone loves. And he was literally using his moves and fucking me like him because he knew that I loved fucking this other guy. And I was like, "Whoa, like, wait." I hope he's doing the movies. Yes. He's doing the thing. Yes. That's a fucking thing. You know what? You know what I go through? I go through fucking a guy that's not a porn star who's trying to copy those moves. That's awful. It's, I'm so sorry. It's like, no, this was the, this was one of the only scenes I ever had to cut in. And like, I, I cut because I was like, so confused because I was so excited to fuck him.

When did you figure it out? Like, within 10 minutes. She was, he was studying you. And probably seeing what you like, seeing who I liked fucking. And was like, "Oh, I'm gonna fuck her like he fucks her because that's what she likes." And I was watching his scenes and being like, "I can't wait to fuck him." So it was like, my brain was like, "What is happening?" And it was actually, I actually had to take, I cut. And like, I just say it claimed that I needed to use the restroom. And I actually had a little tear. I was like, because I was like, I felt like he wasn't there with me. Like, his, like, he was pretending to be someone he wasn't. And so I'm like, "I'm, you're not even having, we're not even having sex. You're, you're being someone else. Who am I fucking?" And so I had to give myself a little pep talk and get back out there and fuck that dude. But I was like, "Never."

What did Angela White pep talk in the bathroom look like? You're serious? That on some like, "Mom's spaghetti" shit? What exactly happens in that moment? I was like, "Okay, okay. This isn't how you had planned. He's not fucking you the way you want it. But he's still fucking you." Well, so like, you know, just maybe embrace what's happening. And maybe just pretend the other dude is fucking you. Or like, yeah, you know.

Can you say to him in that moment, like, "Hey, I feel like you're"? I would now. Yeah. This was like in the beginning when I was directing. And so I was still like, I, it's very delicate with male performers because they, you have to keep the erection, right? You need. Oh, yeah. Direction will kill an erection. You don't want to say anything that's going to get in his head. And then you don't say anything, period. A woman talking, that erection will be gone. Say some dirty things. I'm lost. Yeah. Can you help me find? Uh, I'm confused. Help me. Fuck me. Help me. Like that.

Have you ever had a situation where an erection goes away and you have to pull out a photo of me? All the time. Works every time. Um, so yeah, sometimes erections leave. It's usually an environmental factor, I've found. So if it's too hot, which often it is in porn valley, heat is just kryptonite for a boner. Like, immediate boner goes down. So that's, that's an easy fix. That's a cut. Let's blast the air conditioning. They're doing, they're, they're doing the Blue Chew. Some of them. Some of them are. They're our natural guys that don't use anything. And then there are guys that use like, whatever, Viagra, Cialis, Blue Chew. Um, and then there are some guys that inject a Cabbage Act. And then Cabbage Act promo code Whitney. And then there are some, although not as much as, like, there's been a bunch of podcasts lately that are like claiming that everyone in porn has a penis implant. Not, not true at all. Very few. Let the men believe that. What is that? Squad's not gonna make them feel better. I think that that rumor is not for you guys. Do you know how many less school shooters we've had because that was going rumor was going around? Oh, you guys need to believe that they are implants, right? Got it. It's like how women are able to go, "Well, she's got plastic surgery." Like, that's how you just, you know what I mean? Okay. I'm sure people need to believe that. Well, I shouldn't have said that. There are some men that are natural because that's going to crush some people. People, you know, Viagra, when was that invented? Like the, the '80s or something? I feel like it's like a minute. Yeah. But they were, you know, porn was being produced without Viagra for a while. So there's still some like old-school guys that just really perverted that can get it up in front of a bunch of men and like fuck for hours with no assistance. So it's possible. Yeah. Those men do exist. There. And as long as you're there, I feel like good homes. I feel like the right women are in the room. The right temperature. And it was like, "Guys, can we quiet?" I feel like I could take that boner down pretty fast. You'd be surprised how many men love a dominant woman. You know what? Love. Love. I'm learning this. Yeah. So I'm learning.

What area are you not, does not turn you on sexually? What area, like, what area you're like, "Not for me. Not my thing." Threesomes were fine with. Yeah. Like, what is not turn, what doesn't turn you on? And what is it? Pretty much everything turns me on except for the illegal stuff, you know? Like, everything consensual. Like, I'm down for different kinks. Um, um, have you gone through phases with kinks? Yeah, for sure. Um, I'm not a super pain slut. Like, I like being dominated, but more a psychological domination. Like, actually being in physical pain isn't my, like, like some girls love to be bruised up and marked. I'm like, "Just like, you know, yeah, my daddy, but you don't have to like hit me that high." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I dated a guy. It was like, I mean, the Dom-sub thing. I, I'm very into it. I just, I need some breaks sometimes, you know? It's just not sustainable. If you have a job, you don't want like a lifestyle 24/7. Well, it's like, it's like, you can only have six blueberries for lunch. It's like, "Well, I'm at the airport." Is or is honeydew okay? Like, I found a, a fruit cup at Starbucks. Like, it's like, when it's like, like dated someone that was that. And I'm into it. It's like having your own personal trainer. And like, yeah, no, it's just, but someone tries to restrict my eating. That's just not. We're not. I don't think it was about being thin or anything because I think he was actually like, thought I was too. It was a control thing. It was, yeah. I think it was more that, like, showing loyalty. And that, which I think is hot. I'm actually very beta in my personal life, which is probably a lot of people wouldn't believe. In, like, I think because I emasculate men by accident. I'm not trying to. It's just like my personality and like the tone of my, sure, last voice. But so I was like, for a while, I was like, "Oh, I'm gonna have to do this." Like, if I do super alpha guys that are like Doms, and I'll be in this like sub thing. But it just was like, I can't sit in the corner all day. Like, I gotta, can I have my laptop at least? If I'm gonna be sitting in the corner naked, tied up, can you just not tie up my arm? Like, I just have to return. Can you, like, I needed a sub to do all the stuff that I can't do because I'm yours up. You know what I mean? And like, um, so it was like, it was just wasn't like. Did you see the movie Secretary? No, I didn't. James Spader and Maggie Gyllenhaal's old, old movie. And it's about that, like, it's like that Dom-sub hot thing. Okay. Well, then yeah, I'm only into that within the bedroom. No, like, you can't try and control my life outside of it, or I would just go nuts. Yeah. I mean, it's just a lot of like, I'm also such a klutz about that kind of stuff. Like, I just, I, I'm too literal. If it's like, "Go, you know, get on your knees." And it's like, "For how? How long?" I just, I just, can you just put in the calendar? I, I just, it's, it seems, I need a schedule, I guess. It seems, but there was something hot about that, but I was like, "This is just not something that is sustainable." You couldn't negotiate that, just being like, "Bedroom time." Hmm. It, it felt, I guess not. I just was, I was in a place where I felt like I could not be in a relationship because I was just accidentally too alpha or too emasculating to men or too. So I just like within it, I was like, "Oh, finally, I have this thing." And it's someone that he was very like proactive. And was like, "This is where we're going to dinner. And this is what we're doing." And I really need it. I really want that. But I think people tend to get deferential with me because I am, whatever, um, alpha in a lot of ways. But in my relationship, I really am more beta. But I don't know how to convince people of that. So I think I was going through this phase of like, "Oh, I guess I need to date these like 50 Shades of Grey dudes then, you know?" Are making me like, "Fucking putting asparagus in my butt all day?" What? Didn't happen. Okay. Well, you never know. I just, but a lot of the pinching and shit is like, "I want you to hurt when you sit down tomorrow to think about me." And I'm like, "I have a standing desk, buddy." There's a lot of things in the Dom-sub like in Fifty Shades of Grey that you don't like. That I have. I've worked hard. I've built something. I have employees. You know what I mean? Like, it's, he's like, "I want you to dress up. Please be and clean that. Cleaning. Clean the house." I'm like, "Dude, I have a cleaning lady. It's clean." Like, "I'm not late." You know what I mean? Which always, like, the cleaning lady fantasy always just feels like it's like, "Did you just trick me into cleaning the house?" Yeah. Or like, I remember it was one time, like, "I want you to come home and I want you to be cleaning the house." And it's like, a cleaning lady outfit or something. And I just was like, "Well, I do you want me to ask Leslie for her Crocs and Aeropostale t-shirt?" I mean, my cleaning lady, she's wearing a Canal Street fake Gucci shirt. I mean, I could just. She doesn't wear a French maid outfit. No. Then it was like the make French maid outfit, which is like, "Oh yeah, because French people are known for being so clean." But, um, I got really paranoid because I've been with my cleaning lady for 15 years. She's like my family. And I was like, "If she finds a cleaning lady outfit, I'm worried she's gonna think I'm cheating on her with other cleaning ladies." She's the one that's gonna have to wash it. Like, I can't. I just, I can't deal with the embarrassment. I, I have to be able to make eye contact with Leslie. Yeah. Fair enough. You know what I mean? So I can't, you know. But I, you know, I want to be that adventure. I just couldn't. That wasn't a match.

Can I ask you a couple? Oh, you just wiped a mascara across here. I, this is the part of the show. Yeah. Where my eyes start. I start turning into Jack Sparrow. You've wiped it like all the way down, huh? Oh, I turned. Am I in full blackface? Am I canceled? Do I get it? No. Yeah. I put on an eyeliner for you. Being in this on the same screen as you is truly my nightmare. So let's just get to it. Is squirting pee? Is there pee? How? Why can't I squirt? Why am I peeing? Am I? Do I have to practice? What's happening? Dehydrated. I think the whole squirting thing is just putting more pressure on women. Like, who cares? Are you coming? If you're coming, who cares if you're squirting? It's a different kind. It's a different kind. It's a different feeling. Do you like the way that you're feeling when you come right now? If a guy, uh, yes. Good. I just mean this, like, I can do it. If a guy uses his finger and he's going like this, yep, and it'll happen. And it feels good. But it's, I don't know if it feels good because I'm like, "I did it." I'm not. Yeah. I'm a human octopus. I feel like literal orgasms are more intense. Yeah. Like, but I have not been able to have those without a toy or my hands. A clitoral. Yeah. Because you're, how would you? Yeah. Well, okay. Cat position. That's my favorite position. Excuse me. Pat. Gotta do cat. Uh-oh. Coital alignment technique. That's what it stands for. Cat position. So the cat is where you're going to. I thought you meant it was the cat position. You just like ignore someone who's nice to you and rudely ruin their furniture. That would be hot too. That sounds hot. But this is a different cat position. This is, okay, so you're going to, um, angle your pelvis up. So you could put like a cushion underneath your, your lower back. My pillow. Your, yes. And then basically, it's the man is going to be on top. Or I mean, you could do it with a woman. But like, you're gonna have him rub up against your pubic mound and his pubic mound. So he is so deep in you and rubbing. So he is actually rubbing the clit instead of his. Because this is what, this is sex usually, right? The man is just like, yeah, yeah, in and out. So his cock is going in. And as he's fully in, he's touching your clit for a second. And he, yeah, and then, like, high five. Yeah. He's just slapping. It feels good, but it's not going to be enough, um, stimulation to make you come. So cat is where he goes in deep. He stays in deep. And he's kind of instead of moving up and down like that. That is my shit. But a lot of women don't. They can, can never have an internal orgasm. Clitoris is like, I had to be on top of the guy on a chair. I was also, I was like, very young. Where I was like, 24 when it happened. Oddly, it was at an acting class. [Laughter] It was like, we were rehearsing, like a villain, rehearsing a sex scene. We're rehearsing, like a Philadelphia Story. And by the way, a side note, this was an acting school that I later found out was like a Scientology feeder school. Like it was like a line with Scientology. Whole other conversation. My kink is Scientology. Nothing gets me off like a, like a cult that, uh, makes babies on a boat, uh, uh, audits their failures. Um, but it was like, I was on top of him on a chair. But I feel like now that I'm perceived in a way that's really alpha, I can't like be on top anymore. It's, I know that sounds like stupid, but it's like, guys already think I'm like this top fuck. Lean into it. Lean into it. Get on the chair. Just do it. If it's going to give you an internal orgasm. It's, I don't know if I could do it again. But it was, it was like, it was surprised me. Like, it was. So you're sitting on the chair. Are you sure you're not getting clitoral stimulation? Because if he's sitting, you know what? If y'all, yes. And I feel like I was very close to him. And it was very, like, if you're on just like one, one chair, like a little chair, I think you're also grinding your clit at the same time. And I hadn't gone on Prozac yet. So I was very OCD, you know? Um, but no, I'm, thank God, not on those. Because that's the other thing. I think a lot of people are on antidepressants and stuff that have side effects that mess with your ability to. That's the other thing is that first. By the time I got out of those relationships that weren't sexually satisfying because of whatever reason, I couldn't connect, etc. That's the other thing. Emotional connection is such a big part of it for me. Yeah. And I, I wasn't ready to be intimate with people or surrender. Like, I still had walls up, you know, emotionally. It's like, and I didn't feel, um, uh, I didn't want to give that to some. I didn't want to get addicted to someone. I didn't want to give someone the power of making me feel that good. Because I think I saw so many, I grew up, I think around a lot of sex addiction, around like marriages being destroyed. So and I think for me, I thought like, "Ugh, if I like sex too much, it's gonna destroy my life or something." Subconsciously, you know? But that was my own dumb bullshit. Yeah. I love that we can just stare at each other. I literally went up my nose. I have made out with your mic, by the way. I think you have my lipstick. Please, if you know, I'm putting that mic on eBay.

What, uh, uh, when you're not having sex for work, what, I'm fascinated. It's like my favorite thing to ask a chef is, "Where do you eat?" You know, entertainers, what do you listen to? What do you watch? Like, so when you're having sex, just for the love of the game, what does it look like? I have to have a connection with someone. Absolutely. Like, and it's much more intimate. Like, when we shoot for porn, we're opening up for the light, for the camera. Some of the positions are a lot more distant. So cat, I'm like, "Get on top of me. I want skin-to-skin contact. I want you all over me. Like, I want every part of my skin touching every part of your skin." Is it, by the way, choreographed? Like, do you kind of have the list of positions laid out beforehand? It depends on the company and it depends on the type of scene. So my favorite type of scene is a Gonzo scene, which is like, you just fuck the way you want to fuck. There's very little direction. It's just all about raw chemistry, connection.

Are you able to sleep with people you work with outside of work? Or is that, it's better if I don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's just better to keep the tension. To keep the tension. Because like, if you have really good sexual chemistry with someone and then you fuck them off camera and then you learn more about them and you realize you actually don't like them as a person. Like, it's just bad. It's a big thing. And acting too, if you see like two people that have horrible chemistry as actors, like sometimes it means they fucked, you know? Yeah. I worked with this guy, like a really good actor. Um, and he, we like sort of had this flirtation in the beginning. And he's like, "We cannot hook."

Up, we can knock it up. I'm like, why not? You know, whatever. And he was like, "Because it's gonna ruin..." And he was so right. Yeah, yeah. You know, it, it fucks with the tension. You want to keep that sexual tension for onset. Don't, don't fuck the person on set.

And then there's all these issues. Like, okay, so say you like stop fucking someone off-camera, or you start dating them and then you break up, and it's a bad breakup. And then, like, you don't want to get booked with them. And then what if, like, say a male talent has to cancel on the day and they're like, "Oh, who can we replace him with?" And the only person they can replace him with is your ex-boyfriend and you're like, "I don't wanna." It's like, don't, don't show where you're at, exactly. It's better not to. Yeah.

So there are some positions. Um, hate to say it, reverse cowgirl, because I really don't like that position. But sometimes when I'm taking a dick in my ass in reverse cowgirl and the dick is really straight, it'll be hitting my G-spot through my arms. Oh, yeah. By the way, that's another recent discovery. I've never had sex with a guy until recently that has a very straight dick. Straight? Yeah. Because most of them are curved, right? Because didn't they, um, they don't call me Ho-Ro-Gan for nothing, but in tribal times, uh, the guy's dicks evolved to be curved to scoop out the semen of the competing... I thought that was the, the head, like the mushroom head, like the little... So the head goes like this, and then like the more mushroomy it is. I feel like you're right. Yeah, because there's the, yeah, pull that come out, dude. I feel very lucky that we aren't alive at a time we're not just constantly getting raped by mushroom dicks scooping semen out of us constantly. The fact that a dick evolved just to scoop out fresh cum. How often were women getting fucked? Jesus, guys. Um, that sounds like a dream to me. Arrived. I feel like every woman had a fucking hard UTI at the time. I feel it's just like a... Do you have a protocol for UTI management? I would say that your vagina just gets, um, better at handling stuff. Like the more, yeah, gives up. No, just like, no, why bother? No. I mean, I've never been really prone to the guy, thankfully. I bet too, they do. Yeah, most of them, thankfully. I got in the biggest fight. I mean, this guy, bless his heart, I just like, "You have got to wash your dick." Oh, you have to wash. I think. And the asshole, even if you're not playing with the asshole, because it just, it, it just, the smell stays. Most white people don't even wash their legs or backs. They, you know, that most people just, just wash their hair and they go, "Oh, no, it drips down, it's cleaning." It's no, you have to scrub it. You have to wash it. Exfoliation in it. Gotta get that exfoliation. Yeah. Get it. Yes. Yeah.

So this male friend was not washing his penis. He, yeah, it just was blessed. It's just we, I got so into, we, I have not had sex like that. Like, I just got so, we were having sex like very frequently. And it was just in between. Not, you got to cut your nails. You got to clean under your nails, guys. So I just cut. You've got to file. File cuts. Like, if you're gonna put your finger inside a gal, you gotta get that mani-pedi. Like, it's even like the, the cuticles and like around the skin around, because that, um, can get really hard as well, especially on men, and that can be scratching. And it's weird because I'm so into a guy that's like rugged and not like, you know, most guys in LA have more cosmetics and makeup and hair pomade than I do. So it's like hot that someone's like rugged and kind of a feral animal. But then you're like, "You have to." Well, rugged, but get a manicure and wash your balls and your dick and your butthole. Yep. Yep. And you can't go back and forth from tush to vagina. Well, you can't. You probably, I do. But in the regular sex, don't do it in the streets. Yeah, the civilians without a plan, don't do it. Yeah, you got to have a plan. If you're gonna do it, you can't be slappy about it. Yeah, because going back and forth, that'll give you a yeast infection or a UTI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have plans. If you're rogue about it. Yeah. Agreed. You know what I mean? Agreed.

I'm going to look at the questions that the fan sent in. I cannot wait to see. But for me, another question for me is, is there a way to not queef? Like, is there, uh, some kind of... Yes. Okay, so this is the trick, right? So you can feel when air has gone up there, right? Yeah. You totally know. I'm like, if I turn, you can feel my turn. This is gonna go real whoopee cushion real fast. So this is what you do. And this is how you do it. So the guy doesn't even know what you're doing. Make it sexy, right? Like, what? Like, just... No, no, no, no. I'm gonna... That's it. That's ridiculous. So big made so much space. It's talking to you, baby. It says, "Fuck me." Let me translate. It says, "That dick is so good. Fuck more." Aaron to me. Okay, so when you know it's in, when you know it's in, what you do is you take your fingers, you go down, you start masturbating. You put your fingers inside your pussy, right? You pull up and you push lightly. You pull up. So you open the hole. You pull up. You push lightly. It pushes all the air out. It doesn't make a sound because it's not closed. So it doesn't make that... Whoa. Yeah. So you did it. They won't hear a thing. And it just looks like you're so horny. You stuck your fingers inside. You're like, "Oh my God, this is so good. I need that dick back inside me." And you've just pushed the air out. Nobody knows. Fingers in. So it's like, so it's this. It's like you've opened up the hole. You open the hole. Done. Whoa. Dude, that is some pro shit. Yeah. Nothing makes shit go sideways like a... And the other way you can do it is like, so, and it's always like right between songs. Frank Ocean, Pyramids. There's like a four-second. You've got the Spotify. There's a, um, what is it? Where you can, um, make it so the songs blend together because it's always that three-second like spot in between a song. And just like, God damn it, like happening. Like I'm blasting Marilyn Manson. Look, if he's man enough to fuck you, he's man enough to hear a queef. Like, you know what I think also? Same thing with sex on periods. Like, if y'all aren't out there having sex with girls on your periods, like you are gay. But the other thing is it's good if you like, so stick your fingers in and like finger yourself. But instead of in and out, like up and down, just to let it open. Like, yep. Keeping it open. It's like letting a bird out. Yeah. And you know when the air's out and you're good to go. That is, yes, a game changer. Hold on. How do I go to all the, um, also in doggy, like when he pulls his dick out, don't relax your pussy. Make sure you're squeezing those Kegels when he pulls out because if you're relaxed, the air is going to suck right in. Uh, so you're in doggy. Dude, Kegels. I do. How? With something in there? No, just, just like the Ben Wa balls. Uh, I, I have done them. But honestly, it's usually just traffic lights. That's my Kegel time. I'm like, it's a good reminder. And you're holding for how long? You squeeze, hold. Well, as long as the red light. Oh, shit. Yeah. Hold. Do you live in LA? So that pussy is tiny. But I would like to ask you, what, how do you define love? And have you been in love? Yeah. It's a tough one because a lot of what love is is a bunch of chemicals just making you feel drugged. Ain't that the truth? That's a lot of oxytocin and dopamine and adrenaline. And there's a lot going on. Internal drug cabinet that actually like blinds you to what's in front of you. So I think, um, tricks. Yeah. Yeah. It does. It's like, I mean, there's a grade book. Um, it's called, uh, uh, I know this is a dorky, corny name. It's called Cupid's Poisoned Arrow. Good. But, um, the title is very extra, but sort of outlines that. And what, what orgasms were intended for. Like orgasms, like, you know, are so, it's so hard to make a woman come. The idea was that this is the most fit partner, the father of my child. Like, all these guys are gonna fuck me, and the one that fucks me the best, scoops out the most cum with the most mushroom, yes, dick, and who connects with me the most intensely, makes me come, and the orgasm sucks, sucks, you're more likely to get pregnant. Yeah, you have an orgasm. So it all sort of makes sense, you know, from an evolutionary perspective. Um, you know, but what it does chemically, like just sort of how bonding. Yeah, after sex, an orgasm, a guy goes to sleep. But after an orgasm, a man's, uh, sort of reptilian brain triggers rest, whereas a woman is like, up and planning and plotting because the idea is you're pregnant now. I got to plot. I got to plan. I got to overthink. I got to be neurotic. I got to be hypersensitive. You know, so it's like that moment. I think I'm a man. I am entertaining the idea that I'm a trans man. I want to, I want to cuddle and go to sleep. And then, well, a nap. A nap. And then have Multiplex. I agree. Yeah. This is making a lot of things way more clear because the girl dating a girl, everything else, you're gay now. I'm like, no, I'm a straight trans man. It's trapped in a woman's body that looks like a trans woman. It's very complex. I happen to look like a trans woman, but I think I'm a trans man who won't transition. It's just, it seems like hard work. I'm here for you, whatever you, whatever you decide you are. So because, yeah, you like, just the neurochemistry of that. Do you feel like understanding that takes the, like, romance out of it all? You're too smart for your own good. Uh, no, because like, even though, even though you can rationalize it, you're still feeling the feelings. Um, those feelings will get you. But I feel like you've been able to compartmentalize those feelings. The, the emotional feelings, the bonding, the oxytocin of it all, which is the bonding. And then the being secure in sex, because a lot of times it's, it gets muddy. I still think it's like hard to fall in love, even if you have good sex with someone. At like, afterwards, you can be like, "That was good sex, but I'm good to leave." Hmm. I don't know. Do you want a partner? I've had plenty of partners. Um, I've had plenty of like good relationships, like good, open, polyamorous relationships. I love. I tried monogamy and I wasn't good at it. I really were. I'm gonna be honest. There's just too much money in polyamory. So I tried monogamy and it kept me poor. Yeah. I just, I'm, I like to connect with people. Sex is a conversation. And I meet someone new and I want to like get to know them. And I'm like, "I wonder how they fuck." Like, laughs. I don't know. I just, I don't think monogamy is for me. I think monogamy could be for me for around, um, maybe 12 months. Okay. I think I could be obsessed with someone enough and bond with them enough that I wouldn't need to have sex with anyone else for 12 months. And then after that, I'd be like, "Okay." Because then you get to work too. Does work count? Does that count? I don't, I don't think it counts, personally. So if you are at work all day getting hammered by dread, yeah, and come home, are you like that? Like, doesn't count? It doesn't count to me. I mean, it's like, you want your partner to have fun at work. Like, I might still have fun at work. I might still gain sexual pleasure, but it's not the same as like intimate love making that I have at home. It's not. It's no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even when I connect with people on set, it's never going to be the same. Somebody has a baby wipe afterwards. It's a performance. Yeah. It's look, my aim in every scene is to not perform. That's the ultimate aim. That's like the pinnacle. Like, that's the best porn sex when you are having sex with that person as if there weren't cameras. That's it. That's why you are, you. We got it. So, but you can't get that in everywhere. We're out here. You're acting the least of any, any woman having sex. I found myself like, it's like with these porn stars. I look, they're being fake. I'm like, "Nah, bitch, I think I'm the one being fake." I'm over here like, um, that feels like, like we fake it. The ones that the great porn stars, you actually don't. Yeah. I mean, look, I'll be honest, there are some companies and certain directors that heavily direct a scene. They'll tell you, "We need an orgasm in every position." And we need these five positions in this order. Those kind of things on anything. Sometimes it'll be, um, uh, like the stats or whatever they, you know, they know that this is popular. We need to get these positions in. Um, you know, stepbrother stat. Yeah. And, and the orgasm in every position, I guess that's that's kind of catering to every, like, every person's fantasy. Like, if you know there's the person that only jerks off to doggy, and so we want to make sure that the female has an orgasm in doggy because that's for that particular viewer. And there's the person that only wants to watch the reverse cowgirl. So, so I understand it. But those scenes aren't as conducive to real orgasms because it's like, right, right. It's heavily directed. But when you're on a set and it's Gonzo and it's like, fuck however you want to fuck and you actually have chemistry with that person, then you're gonna get real sex. Or as real as it can, can be. Like, there's always some sort of artifice. You do have to open up for the camera. But I did the scene that I'm probably the most well-known for is my scene with Manuel Ferrara. Where you can look it up. Who can I do? Spell his name? Uh, Manuel. M-a-n-u-e-l. Manuel. Yeah. Um, does if you write Angela White gets emotional after creampie. I have had. I mean, we fucked for an hour and then I cried in his arm for 20 minutes. Yeah. It's like a meme now. But did it? But that was what happened there. The sex was so intimate and so incredible and so real. Like, I just had this release. I just was crying for it was 20 or 30 minutes. It's all. It was all filmed. The camera man just kept rolling. It's all in the scene. We won best boy-girl sex scene for it. Like, New York Post wrote an article about it saying with the headline, "Porn Will Never Get Better Than This." Oh, it's like a lot. It's, yeah, it's my, I would say it's my best scene. But because it didn't feel like a scene. So while it was happening, you didn't, I wasn't there. Like, I was in the space with Manuel. I was with Manuel. I wasn't anywhere else. I wasn't thinking of the camera operator. I wasn't thinking of the light. It was just, we were connecting and we were so in tune with each other's bodies. See, this is blowing my mind because it's like, for this to be the best scene, the best to work, it's like, there's this stigma and porn that these women are just getting fucked. And it's, it's like, maybe that's happening. But the ones that are popular and the ones that are the most successful, lucrative, etcetera, the things people actually really want to watch are the ones where the woman is getting a tremendous amount of real, for real, Z's pleasure. That's the thing. People only will talk about the negative impacts of porn. Well, and that's the thing, like, that's what it's clear right now. Men are still the biggest consumers of porn. And that is changing. Like, more and more women are consuming porn and being open about consuming porn. And like, my biggest spenders on OnlyFans are actually women. But really? Yeah. But like, men are speaking with their clicks. They want to see porn where the women are enjoying the sex. It's like, that's his kink. But, but it just, the fact that that scene is so popular shows that there are so many men that they want, they want to be having connected sex. They want to be having sex with women that are enjoying themselves, that are like genuinely connected with their sexual partner. That's what resonates. This is like so wild because it's, it's the same as stand-up in a lot of ways. But it's like, you see them stand-ups, the great stand-ups, and then the people that don't understand why they're not making it. And you're like, and I don't know how to say it, but to comics that come out, they've got great jokes, they've got a great sort of angle, they're smart. It's like, you're not connecting with the audience. Yes, you have to fall in love with them. Yeah. And then they're all shitty crowd. I'm like, that's, yeah, you already or haven't you have this adversity with the crowd. You have like this cantankerous relationship with the crowd. It's all energy. Yeah. You know, and it's like, it's, it's so, this is like, this is kind of blowing my mind in a way because it's just, we're not getting away with anything. You're never getting away with it. So it's like, it's like the ultimate lesson and do what you love. Yeah. Because if you don't love it, you're not going to get paid. Yeah.

This is a great question. Oh, this is such a good. Favorite fragrance on a man? I missed what I do like. I like fresh sweat. Yeah. Yeah. A man who eats healthy and like, you know, it's like taking care of himself and then goes to work. If you drink, your sweat is gross. No, you've got to be eating healthy, not drinking, hydrated, go work out, that come back with that fresh. Yeah. Oh, that's hot. I will bury my nose in your armpit. I'll bury my nose. Where are you? In shape guys are shaving? You don't like, don't stop. I don't. Just I like some. But I, my pubes, I feel like I need to get a merkin or plugs. I kind of want pubes back. Yeah. If you lasered it, it's, it's, I lasered in the early days. Yeah. It was just like a give up on that from Hardee's. I mean, my, it was like, there was laser. That was, it was not, it was an Easy Bake Oven. They would just put your pussy in an Easy Bake Oven. Yeah. Fried. It's done. It's done. It's like, and then when I try to grow it out, it's like a little like Smithers hairs. Yeah. And it's all like little white hairs. And it's, yeah, it's you. Yeah. I, I prefer a man to leave his hair. Also, I just don't like shaved pubes because they're spiky. That's it. And then I want to grind on your pizza area and it hurts. And it's, you're gonna get an ingrown or it's, it's gonna be get red and inflamed. And I'm gonna think it's a herpes. And then I'm getting it all. Apparently, I'm red and inflamed because I'm grinding on you and your sharp, pointy, like, just wait. It's going back. Just leave it. You can trim it a little if you want. Like, but just don't, yeah, don't shave it off. I think I think it makes their dicks look bigger. Maybe. We know how big your dick is. Her garlic. Like, you know when women line outside their lip? People know. We all know the difference. Yeah. We go, "Oh, look how overdrawn that lip is." Same. Same. Um, interesting. What do you have thoughts on the, on PornHub and the state of Utah's new law? Um, that sucks. I don't know what it is. Um, basically, um, I'm not sure the exact details, but, um, PornHub, uh, just restricted access to the whole entire state of Utah because they were making it too difficult to, um, a, they, they wanted age verification, but there's an issue with privacy. I don't know the full, um, the full details of it. I just don't think that, I mean, it's all about protecting the children. But, um, protecting the children. Oh, in the state where they marry children. Oh, don't. They can't go to PornHub, but they can marry 88-year-old. But people who are internet literate know how to use a VPN. So I feel like better sex education and age-appropriate requirements. Anyone who wants to access an adult content site has to be prove that they're 18. But then you're stopping adults from being adults. And you're, you're then having to like, there's like, um, how do you feel as an adult like giving away your private information and your ID every time you want to watch? Oh, so it's like if you're doing it of age, you're having to, yeah, like, why aren't you using the parental controls? That I was gonna say, why, where, where are the parents? It's like, yeah, the internet is forever. You're the one that had the kid. You gotta watch it. Dude, we gotta make know where it is. You just do. Yeah. You know, just get, um, but when you have 50 kids, you can't possibly know where they all are at one time. So Utah had to. Do you want kids? No, thank you. Did you always know that? Yeah. I can't. Yeah. From as long as I can remember, I've never wanted kids. Yeah. I'm just not interested. I just, honestly, I feel like, firstly, the world's already overpopulated. And secondly, the world is an absolutely horrible place. I don't want to be responsible for bringing a child into this world and be responsible for their suffering because living is suffering. I'm gonna let you go. Very against my instincts. She's looked me. Keep you forever. But I have another podcast. As long, in a very long time, but we have to finish editing the, um, uh, roast of me, which you're gonna do the intro. Yes, I'm excited. So, so Angela is going to do the intro. Then we're gonna put in the roast of coffee comings. And it's gonna, should we show her the picture? Should we show it to her? It's basically gonna be like, uh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the roast of Whitney Cummings. Please welcome your host, Hannah Stocking. Okay, is that what we need? Haley, easy. Yeah. Welcome to the roast of Whitney Cummings. Yeah, I think the other one was like, and now for your host. And now for your host, Hannah Stocking. Can we put that on prompter? And then, um, what's up? Please stand by. What was that? Would you like that? Oh, no. It was that two words too. I said, "Oh my God." I thought that was just came. I thought that it was just. I said, "That was your voice." That sounded like Siri. Sorry. That was wild. Is that good or was that? It was, but it was like, it sounded like a robot. Please stand by. That's wild. You know, Robert Green's argument about the aliens is that it wouldn't, uh, is that aliens wouldn't be able to make it to Earth because the distance is so long. They, if they were made of what were made of flesh, they wouldn't survive the trip. So they would have to send robots. So maybe that's you. And the robots don't know they're robots. So that's the right. Yeah. That's going back to Blade Runner. Yeah. Full circle. This is seeing you something. Okay, so while she's pulling this up, um, or just putting that on prompter, um, would you do a TV show for OnlyFans TV? Like, me, like produce one if I had a good idea? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. I wouldn't have to, I wouldn't have sex, though. Like, that would be the problem. Like, yeah, I mean, it could be some, I know something only for sexy, challenging kind of happening. That could be fun. What is the key to the perfect blowjob besides being you? Um, no teeth. Um, honestly, I think I think there's a lot of different things that can make a good blowjob. Twisting. That's good. Yeah. Little, little, uh, pepper grinder. Using, losing the mouth. Using a lot of spit. I would say, um, poking your tongue out. So that your tongue is coming out. I do that. I wish I had a, um, something I could demonstrate on. I mean, you know, what do you, are you gonna, could this be mine? Could this be mine? Yes. Okay. Favorite person. It's easy at a deep throat. If you stick your tongue out, so don't keep your tongue in your mouth, right? The best day. Oh, all right. So you're sticking. I wish this was more softer. Um, so you can actually tickle the balls with the tip of your tongue as well. So imagine these are the balls, right? Whoa. Whoa. Right. So you're using your tongue to tickle the balls while the dick's all the way down your throat. That is a game changer. I'll, I'll have a sip of this now. You made it come. See, it works every time. [Laughter] Every time. She just got a Topo Chico sponsorship in a, a big way. Um, so something along the lines of, "Welcome to the OnlyFans TV Roast of Whitney Cummings, and your host for the evening, Hannah Stocking." What? You're a robot. Wild for sure. [Laughter] Do you want to just do another one for, yeah? Was that too loud or was that good or, I mean, do like three in a row? Okay. I always like to do like, whenever I'm doing something, I'm like, "Can I just do three in a row so that you're not like, there's no pressure?" Okay. Perfect. Welcome to the OnlyFans TV Roast of Whitney Cummings, and your host for the evening, Hannah Stocking. Welcome to the OnlyFans TV Roast of Whitney Cummings, and your host for the evening, Hannah Stocking. Heaven. Perfect. That's it. I feel like that last one though, I didn't give enough emphasis to you. I just, it was like, it was, it was calm, but then you didn't get enough attention. I feel like I get enough attention though. Like, I feel like we'll do one more. I like, I kind of like the underplaying me a little bit because I feel like such a narcissist. It's just like, wait, you know what I mean? This is about you, but it is. You have to accept that this is your moment. So your brain. Welcome to the OnlyFans TV Roast of Whitney Cummings, and your host for the evening, Hannah Stocking. You deserve everything you have. I love it when I meet someone who is just deserves everything they have and more. It's the best feeling. It's only because I have really big boobs and so I couldn't play sports and so then I had to take a different elective and that elective was drama. So I am a crazy theater kid. You're, but you're just, you're, but you're so clear. You're not like, "Hey," you're just like, "I'm gonna nail this." And you nail it. Thank you. Literally. I love to nail things. Real things. I'm sorry. I'm totally obsessed with you. I love hanging out with you. Thank you. Ditto. Ditto. Angela White. There's, I don't, this is the best day of my life. I love you guys. Thank you so much for coming. Don't worry. [Music] Happened.