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Right, welcome back to another episode of the Cody Tucker show. As always, I'm your host, Cody Tucker. Today, I'm joined by a very special guest, the one and only, Miss Arabel Raphael. How are you doing?
Good. How are you?
Could not be better. Been looking forward to this for a while, so, yeah, I'm glad we're making it happen. Before we, uh, kick into things, go ahead, plug, promote anything you like, where can people find you, all that good stuff.
My OnlyFans. The hell yeah. It's Arabel Raphael, just my name. I make a lot of stuff. I'm on there a lot, you know, it's a good time. And it's like, where, like, the most of what I'm making these days is, is I like, slowly, slowly, like, do less and less mainstream. Um, and you can find me on Twitter at Mommy_Arabel, on Instagram, Arabel Raphael. It's pretty easy to find me. You should, uh, look me up.
I imagine you're saved on most people's search history, if I had to guess, so shouldn't be too difficult. Do you think most content is going to OnlyFans? Like, obviously, OnlyFans has been around for a long time, it's not like a new thing. Do you think that it's becoming, like, I don't know how much of a competition it is to, like, mainstream porn, maybe it's a huge competition, maybe not. But do you think eventually it will kind of overtake because there's just something about, like, being, being able to create your own stuff that's just so much more appealing?
I mean, it has to, to a certain degree. Like, a lot of people, you know, who used to make their living doing, like, mainstream, like, now, like, either don't do it at all or do, like, a handpicked of things here and there, which is kind of, I'm like, almost retired doing a couple things here and there, but I'm like, that's just not where I'm putting my efforts. Um, so there's definitely a lot of that. And I mean, you know, there will always be people who want to do mainstream, who want to be in movies, who want to be on these like iconic sites that they watched, all that jazz. That I think will always be there. But like, the real money as a performer is making your own stuff. And I mean, like, you know, you get to control your entire image, you get to, you know, so like, I don't know, you can shoot for your studio and they can just like, post terrible photos of you. That's just like part of the internet. There are so many bad photos of me on the internet, especially because I've been doing them since 2010. So like, like, figure out like what looks good on you, what doesn't. I have like, all of my awkward phases, like, you know, recorded, basically.
That's rough.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've let this go. And once in a while, I'll meet like a new porn girl and they'll be like, "Oh, I'm so freaked out. There's this bad photo of me." And I'm like, "Oh, you wait. You won't care. And there will be no point that you will just not care anymore."
Yeah, it seems like the, you know, the give-a-[__] factor has to be pretty low. Like, if you're in the adult film industry in general. I mean, obviously, you care about stuff like, you care about your content being good and all that stuff. But I imagine, and you could definitely tell me if I'm wrong about this, but I imagine like, you probably have an innate confidence in yourself to where things like that don't bother you too much. Am I wrong?
Or no, I mean, you're not, you're not wrong. It's confidence is a weird thing because in some ways I feel very, very confident. And in others, I'm also an insecure bastard, like everybody else, you know? And there's always this assumption that like, we don't have feelings at all. Which I'm like, "No."
Well, that's easier for people to handle if they imagine you don't have feelings and you're not a real person.
Totally. Right. And like, that's the whole thing. Even people who, who consume it, right, is like, there's this like hardcore, like, complete objectification of like, porn performers. Which, yeah, I don't think is inherently bad when you're just in the sexy time moment. It's afterwards when you're like, "Oh, I'm not seeing this person as like, a whole human being." But anyway, besides the point, what, what we're talking about.
Yeah, about bad pictures of yourself and being not giving a [__]. Yeah. But you have to kind of, you have to grow a thick skin because, and the more successful you are, the more you're going to get [__] on because more people are going to see you. Um, so you, yeah, you have to learn it, or else you will not survive or just like, have like a mental breakdown all the time because people are so [__] mean online, you know?
Tell me about it.
Yeah, I know. You know, like, they just like, it's so weird because I've, you know, I've been through a lot and I've been a miserable bastard at times. But I've never been so miserable that I'm like, "I'm gonna go [__] on a bunch of people online." Never. You know? Never. It's so weird. It's a different kind of sad and miserable that I, like, I don't relate to. And I'm like, yeah. I'm like, you know, was like a depressive for like, most of my life. But I don't, this one.
See, I think there's part that's that's interesting because I'm the same way. Like, I've, you know, gone through depression, all kinds of stuff. And I still have like anxiety and all that kind of [__]. But I've never wanted. And I [__] on things a lot. I have very strong opinions. And there's a lot of things I hate. But I would never like, if I watched, um, like a TV show I didn't like, I would never go find the actor and be like, "Dude, you [__] suck."
Yeah. I, I mean, I would tell somebody if I like them. Like, if I really like them, I'd like, shoot a message that they may not see. But even if they did, it would just be like, "Hey, like, I really enjoyed blank." Like, I don't get. I don't get. I don't think that makes me just an angel. Like, I feel like I'm just a good, you know, normal person. Yeah. It's like, really a basic.
I found out that my dad is a, like, a troll. Online troll. He wants to, like, yeah, like political. He's a political troll.
That's the best. That's what you want your dad off of Instagram.
I'm like, I deal with people like you. You guys are insane. I'm like, go get help, dude.
Okay, that's a great point. But also, I want, that's how you want your dad to be. You want your dad to be one of those on IG accounts. Sorry, no accounts to troll. Like, um, Pol, um, like people in the, like, Persian Iranian regime right now. Like, like, he just, that's what he does. He's, he's going after them. Yeah. It's like, really, like, some, like, refugee anger just like, yeah, spending its time trolling the Iranian government. That's amazing.
Look, I mean, this may come as a huge shock to you, but, uh, most of my family are pretty hardcore Trump supporters. And I'm not asking what your opinions are, doesn't matter. Uh, but they are some of the best trolls on the planet. You know, what you think, what you will about any side or whatever. That's what they're good at. A 55-year-old or up guy who's a Trump supporter will say some crazy [__]. And don't give up. That is, that has become their job. And I mean, I, I kind of enjoy it in some ways. I'm like, "Well, you know, at least you're, you know, at least you're being active. I guess you're part of discourse."
Yeah, exactly. It's that's what, you know, we live in a country of freedom. You got to be free to make troll accounts and post memes of Kam Harris doing not great things. Like, like, everybody's so [__] unhinged. It's wild.
I love it. I love chaos.
Yeah, I love chaos. If I can just watch it from a distance.
Yeah, I don't want to be in it. No. But, but, but from far away. I have mixed feelings about it. It, like, sometimes I like lean into, like, absurdism and I can laugh about it and it's really funny. And other times I'm like, "Oh, this is like dark."
Well, okay, okay. So I, yeah, I don't want it to get, like, I don't want it to turn genocidal or anything. I mean, I mean, you know, this is the state of how stupid people are, period. Like, I think that's like depressing.
It is. I mean, I'm not trying to be controversial or anything, but I am against genocide. So, you know, just leave that out there. But I do enjoy, like, a good, just a good shouting match. It's a fun time to watch.
You like the fight. You like the, you like the people. You like, yeah, you like the back and forth.
I love a good public freak out. It's one of my, one of my favorite things on the planet is to go on the old Gram and just find people losing their [__] in a Walmart. Love it. Love it. Because I'm not that person at all. I don't understand that mind. Like, I was raised to be that way. I'm very much raised to be like, quiet, timid, like, don't say anything, just accept life as it is and move forward. So when I see somebody...
Are you in, like, Middle America?
I'm in Texas.
You're in. Oh, really? Interesting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why? I mean, why is that interesting?
Culturally, just in that way. When I think of Texas, now, I've only, like, I've been there, I've never lived, uh, but I wouldn't think that, like, yeah, I guess that that would be the approach. T, you know, you think Texas, you don't think timid, right?
I see. I see what you're saying. Well, no, that is a very valid point because a lot of people aren't. And, uh, I mean, you go to your local Walmart and you will find that out real quick. Um, actually, you go anywhere where there's more than 10 people and you, something's going down. You're like, "Okay." Yeah. But I think it was just my family in general that was like that. It's not the common thing. I'm not, yeah, no, you're right for thinking how you're thinking. Like, well, that's why I was like, "Oh, I can think of like, you know, Minnesota nice or, yeah."
I come from like, passive-aggressive. Like, the West Coast is the most passive-aggressive place, all along the coast. So you're Pacific passive.
I'm so, I'm not. So, everybody, I get mistaken for being a New Yorker. One, I think just because I'm a Jew. Um, and which I'm like, like, we do exist other places.
That's a good point. I, well, that's the wrong kind of Jew. That's like the Ashkenazi Jews that live in New York. I'm like, I'm different. Different kind.
We're in LA. Yes.
Know, it's true. Like, the largest population of like, Persian Jews is in Los Angeles.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, but anyways, uh, so people mistake me for, also because I'm really direct. So I'm really direct. And so everybody is like, "Oh, you're a New Yorker." And I'm like, "I was raised in California."
You know, if I had to guess, I would probably have thought you were from New York, New Jersey, maybe the Jersey. I've gotten Jersey. Yeah. Jersey is kind of what I would have guessed. Like, I mean, I haven't really thought about like, what city or state you're from, but if I had to guess, Jersey. Yeah. You have a Jersey vibe. Which I don't think is a bad thing. I mean, Springsteen's from Jersey, he's all right. You know?
I love Jersey Shore. Oh, oh my God. Do you watch?
Okay, look, I mean, forget everything else. I was going to ask, do you watch Jersey Shore Family Vacation?
Yes. I've watched both. So it's so much better to me.
Oh, agreed. I like it more. I, so I was like, too good for reality TV for like, most of my life. And then during like, COVID lockdown, um, I was exposed to Real Housewives.
And which one?
I mean, I've seen all of them now. It's that's like my dirty secret. That's not a secret that I talk about.
Beverly Hills is great. I love Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Oh, yeah. Unhinged. Yeah. And Vanderpump Rules. That's what I've gotten into recently is Vanderpump Rules. It's basically an 11-season HR violation. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen. Like, so I just had surgery and couldn't do [__] for like a month. And I watched the whole. So I tried before with Vanderpump Rules. I like, couldn't get into it. And I didn't get it. And didn't get it. And finally, it took surgery and I watched the whole thing. I'm invested. I'm invested in these [__] lives. It's, I, I follow. Oh my God. I'm, I'm gonna admit way too much. But which is okay. Whatever. That's, you know, the point. I follow Reddit pages dedicated to these people and keep up with like the gossip going around. Like, Jax and Brittany, they're getting a divorce. Which, uh, about [__] time. I mean, oh God, yeah. And you know, and like, it was so crazy because the whole, you know, scandal thing had already happened before I started watching it. And I was watching and I was like, "This guy doesn't seem so bad." Boy, the 180 that [__] took towards the end. I was like, "Holy [__]." And he became like, more and more obnoxious. Like, as, you know, he was always annoying, but like, it just got like, we like, he was a legitimate victim in the beginning because that Jax was a, and Jackson, his, uh, [__] Kristen, you're right, were doing horrible [__] to Tom. So you're like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, like, you do feel sorry for him." So you kind of get away with some of the juiciness. And then later, he's not a victim anymore. Now he's an [__]. And you're like, "No, you see it all." My God. So Jersey Shore, yes. Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Family Vacation's amazing. Like, I, it's, I mean, it's just like, the drama is so much more intense. Like, you know, people are going to [__] prison. And [__]. It's not somebody just...
Huh?
Oh, when they go to prison, it's always like an out. That's like what pushed.
Royal Housewives to Salt Lake City?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beverly Hills at the beginning. I mean, you had that, uh, the beginning and the end. I mean, Erica's husband. Oh, that [__]. Okay. You know, between us girls, do you think there is a chance in hell that she didn't know about the money stuff?
I think it could. I think there could be. I'm not saying she's innocent, but like, I also like, a lot of those people, like, sketchy husbands do all kinds of [__] and they're not like involved in the finances. They're just being like, you know, whatever. I could see both. But yeah, I think it's a possibility. There's a chance she didn't know he was doing that stuff.
Yeah. See, I think she's a huge piece of [__]. But I do actually think she very easily could have not known that. You know, she just has her husband putting money in her account. And he is a super wealthy dude. So it's like, I mean, it's not out of the, it's not like he's a dude working in a [__] tire shop who's like, "Hey, by the way, don't ask any questions about, just put $1 million in your bank account." Like, he's, yeah.
Know, exactly. No, it's not a thing about like thinking that she's like amazing or anything. It's just that like, it's a POS. It's possible.
Yeah. That's amazing. I did not think we were gonna bond over these types of things. Got really, like, we're talking about stupid people are and then we're like, "Let's bond over reality."
Well, it's a natural progression. I mean, yeah. I know. I wonder because somewhere people are watching this and they're thinking, "Wow, these two." Yeah. Like, why, why, why? Look, [__] him. I've heard enough [__] from people as is. I'm not worried about it. I'm sure you have to.
What's the weirdest thing someone's ever said to you in person? Because in the DMs, people say all kinds of [__]. But like, has anyone ever said anything to you just super out of hand in person?
I mean, yeah, all the time. I mean, just like rude [__] about like my job. Like assuming people. I've had people just be like, "Oh, yeah, like, you guys don't make any money doing that, right?" Like, "No." And I'm like, "Sure. What, like, are assume you know?" Like, that's been thrown out. Uh, or can you not? Excuse you. Sorry. Um, just one more for the road. Uh, but, uh, I don't know. Yeah, people say I don't over that [__] all the time. Or like, assume, like, just assumptions. Like, they'll be like, "Oh, yeah, it must be like impossible to date." And I'm like, "No." You know, stuff like that. Nothing like horrible, but just making like these like really big assumptions.
Yeah, I get, I get a lot of that. Mostly, yeah, people love making assumptions about people. And it's so funny to me. Like, I mean, you know, some of it might be true, which is just part of how assumptions work. Like, you're going to hit it on the head every once in a while. But for the most part, you're, because like, also, like, the dating thing, like, obviously it's harder to date because there's people because people deal with jealousy. A lot of people, not everyone, but a lot of people do. And if you're in porn, you're probably like, jealousy becomes such a, a bigger factor than it is if you're not in it, which is just how it is. But that doesn't mean that you can't find it. Some, you know, like, that's that's ridiculous. No, I've like had plenty of. I was married and people are like, "Always assume like, my divorce was like about that." Like, "No, he was an [__], that's all." Like, nothing actually, nothing to do with my job. Um, you know, like, I'm like, "That wasn't it. Just a dick." You know? And I've dated so many people and like, that's just not been super hard. And also like, I'm also not going to go for someone that's like, I guess, in the first place, like, I'm not attracted to, I guess, the kind of person that would be like, you know, like, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. That's a big assumption that people have. And like, so many people are like, in the industry are like, married and kids or have like, whole families or all, you know, like, that's something that I think most people do not realize. Because I mean, even before I started like, actually talking to people who were in the industry, I didn't really think it would be that common. Like, I assumed there were some, obviously, but I didn't think it was so common that people were married to people in the industry, not in the industry, have kids, have old families. I'm like, "Holy [__]." Like, "Oh, yeah." I was kind of surprised to find out.
Oh, totally. Like, one thing that they always like to do, like, "What are you gonna say to your kids?" Blah, blah, blah. Like, "I'm like, that would be like, yeah, a conversation." There have been so many like parents in this industry. They figure it out. Like, you know, yeah, it is what it is. But it's like this thing that like, "Oh, completely impossible." And you're like, "Oh, so many people do it actually. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean others can't." You know?
Right, right. And I've, you know, I mean, I've, I've thought about that too. Like, I mean, it's got to be hard for some kids. Like, cuz kids, kids will find anything and bully someone about it.
Totally. That me. Yeah. So, you know, that's just going to be a thing. Like, out of the hundreds of things they can find to bully you about. No, if you have braces, if you're chubby, if you have pimples, if you have big titties. I got like teased for having big tits. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just like, whatever. They will find it. So it's like, yeah, that'll be a thing. But either way, if they want to torment you, they will torment you. Like, it is unfortunately, like, it's to me, like, the most hor horrific thing about like, the idea of having kids is like, "Oh, I'm gonna have to like, send them to school."
Yeah. Yes. I, I know exactly what you mean. I don't have any kids, as far as I know. But if I, you know, if I did, I'd be like, "H, it'd be hard not to want to homeschool them." Yeah. Which I think is also a horrible idea. But I, but I get it. Yeah. Like, I, I mean, because I was a bull. I mean, I've always been a big old son of a [__]. And so I was, you know, bullied for that. And I, like, it bothered me as a kid. But now I don't give a [__]. I could care less.
Grow up.
Yeah, exactly. So it's one of those things that like, yeah, okay. You have a kid. So you're a porn star. You have a kid. The kid's bullied for it. When they get older, they're not going to give a [__]. She just gon to be, "That's what Mom did." And I don't, I don't care. They'll like, go through something, deal with it. And hopefully, you give them the tools to like, process their [__]. Like, if you're a good parent, that's what you will provide for your kids. Hopefully. Yeah.
Um, and then there you go. Like, life, life's hard. Yeah. It's a real son of a [__] sometimes.
Exactly. So, you know, as it is, you know, it's as hard as it is beautiful. And you will, you know, they'll deal.
Yes. Exactly. No, I do. You do. Customs? Yes. Your only. I always ask this, which I just think it's so fascinating. I love. I think like exploring people's like kinks and fetishes is just so interesting. What's like the weirdest thing you've been asked to do in a custom?
I mean, so I don't. People ask this. I don't really think of anything like crazy weird. That's not like, I'm pretending to be someone's like sister or like, whatever. Like, that's like basic. Um, I did one that wasn't even sexual that I thought was really sweet. And it was just, and I actually have had this ban for a really long time, um, that bought a custom of me just being like, you know, "Bro, it's going to be cool. It's going to be all right. You know, like, she, it's not going to suck forever." And I just thought that was like, so sweet. And like, that's that's awesome. Yeah. And I don't, and I don't think he uses it in a jerk-off material way. I think he genuinely uses it as like, just like, a pick-me-up motivation.
Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, because he likes you. Be cute.
Yeah, exactly. And I like him. Like, you know, he's there's over the years, you do build, you know, especially if you're like, talking to people on O for a while or whatever, you build a relationship with some of your like, you know, consistent fans.
Yeah. Um, yeah. Well, he has that connection to you. And then hearing you say something like that is, I mean, it works for him. I mean, obviously, some people are going to find that odd. But you know, communication is a weird thing. And connection's a weird thing. And nowadays, especially even more, which I'm decently young, like I'm 30, so I've kind of grown up in a world where communication is like, 70% virtual. Yeah. And it's weird. It's weird. It's not how it's supposed to be. Like, we aren't supposed to be doing this over a [__] webcam. Like, you're, you know, like, it's, it's just. But that's just the world we live in. So I understand how people sometimes just feel kind of lost. And so having someone like you tell them something like that, [__] does something for them. So, you know, good.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, whatever you [__] get it where you can take it. Yeah. Know, like, do what's gonna bring you joy. Like, yeah. But so, yeah. But weird. Like, I, yeah, I don't know. That's a good one. Bet it's happened. I just like, can't. I think there was a weirder one recently. Oh, he never bought it, but it was so good. Um, this guy like started to pay for it and then disappeared, which is too bad. But he had dwarfism and he wanted me to make a whole like video where I was dressed as Snow White and then basically being like, "All right, let's, you know, Snow White [__] like one of the dwarfs."
I really wanted to make. I really out. I was like, "[__] yes, I love this."
Um, um, yeah, but I, yeah, that was the favorite. It didn't happen. But I still, I'm like, "Sir, come back. I want to make this so bad for you. Please."
I'm sure you could find someone to do it. I mean, they they fired all the actual dwarfs from the Snow White movies. So I'm sure some of them.
It was a solo. It was a solo of me just talking to him and whatever. But I just like the idea of like, yeah, [__] the prince. Like, let's hook up with one of the dwarfs. I'm into it. I liked it. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Do you have any? So I mean, obviously, you've been doing this for a long time. Have done all kinds of [__]. Like, all kinds of content. Are there anything things you haven't done that you still want to do? Like, do you have a bucket list? Things like that?
No, no, no. Not really. Um, maybe one day if it works out, maybe like a, like guy-guy buy scene. I never shot that. I never got to. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Buy me. But like, it's not like pressing. But I've done it pretty. I've done it all.
That's what I kind of would imagine is that at this point, like, what else is there that you would want to do?
Exactly. There's more extreme stuff that like, more power to who's into it. But like, I'm personally like, not, not into. So like, I like, like, what are the things that like, you're not into?
Uh, I have like, I have a small [__] vagina. I don't want two penises. Congratulations. Yeah. More power to the [__] that can like, that's like impressive. But I, I don't want to. You know, yeah. Just like, I, you know, I like anal. And a lot of people don't like anal. So like, whatever. Um, but yeah, like, that's a thing. I'm not into. Um, I don't know. That's it. Like, I like, I do anal. I don't do like extreme anal. Yeah. Um, but I, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. There's nothing that I'm like, trying to do. I like the lowest PR. I just like want to make fun [__]. But like, like, yeah, making one. I don't know. Yeah. There's no like, super big goal I'm working for. I'm happy where I am. I just kind of want to keep growing what I'm have and have a good time doing it.
It's a good way to be. Yeah. Yeah. It's a no goals. Yes. Being goal is is great. You're never disappointed. I know my career is going well. I don't have anything I'm like, I'm not. I don't need to like outdo myself. Yeah. Going with the flow is an underrated thing. You know, there's like all these people that want to like climb Mount Everest. It's stupid. Climb Mount. What does that do for you? And also, there's like thousands of people doing it every year. It's not even a [__] accomplishment anymore.
35 too. Like, I don't know. I'm just trying to chill and like, yeah, you know, and luckily, like, I have like, my my work gives me the ability to just like, kind of do that. So I don't feel like I need to go like crazy. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
I want to make more like safe-for-work content stuff because I think it's fun. And that's kind of something I'm like delving more into. I guess that's a goal. That is. Yeah. For sure. Is a goal. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. I mean, I'll continue doing adult stuff, but like, I don't know, people respond well when I do other things. I'm just kind of figuring out how I'm going to do that, if that makes sense.
Yes. It makes perfect sense. Yeah. That's interesting.
Are there any like kinks or fetishes that are, I mean, popular or not popular, that are not like crazy extreme, that you just don't get? You're just like, "How the [__] are people under this?" Not, you're judging anything. Splashing. What the [__] that it's like, messy food stuff.
Oh, yeah. I don't like that. It's sticky. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that. I am not. Not a fan. Want food. I see if I see any kind of sugar near your vagina, I'm like, "Yeast infection." Like, is that worse?
About everybody's vaginal health. Will that really cause one?
Yes. You keep. You don't want sugar in there. Yeah. That will get. That can cause a yeast overgrowth. Like, "Damn, my plans for Easter are out the window."
Yeah. No. Yeah. That's a, yeah, that's interesting. I didn't really. I mean, I, I just kind of assumed you probably shouldn't be like, shoving, you know, popsicles in someone's or something. But sometimes, just hard not to. Yeah. I mean, whatever. If you want to go deal with that, do go. I mean, summers get really hot in Texas. So sometimes got sometimes you just got to put a push pop in there and hope for the best. But yeah, the the messy food stuff grosses me out. I'm not into scat, which is like, a lot of people's like, you know.
Thankfully. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, whatever. I don't care. Like, if you want to go do that, go do that.
Oh, yeah. I'm with you. I see. I'm yeah, I'm firmly in the field of, uh, you know, two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the [__] they want. I don't care what you're doing. Um, you know, just, you know, do it. Like, don't do it in public. Don't do it in, like, an Outback Steakhouse or something. But you, I might judge you in that case. You know, but otherwise, yeah, [__] it. Have fun. Like, I'm into some weird [__]. I'm sure. But like, I don't. I think I'm somewhat mild. Like, a little BDSM is always a good time. You know?
No, that's never hurting anybody. I mean, technically. But yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah. Yeah. That is interesting. Yeah. It's just the whole world is of that is fast. Like, kinks, f is like where it comes from. Like, how you're into it. Like, "Oh, yeah, like, are you able to pinpoint like things from like, that you saw as like, a kid that like turned into fetishes that you like?" Or, you know.
Okay, I'm like into like monster porn. So I like, I don't want to watch human beings have sex unless it's like in front of me. I'm not into watching. I do not consume porn at all. Like, all that's not true. I do not consume porn of like, real people. I like, I like cartoons. I like the 3D stuff. People.
Yeah, absolutely not. I'm like, "Looking." And is that because you're in porn, or were you like that before?
No, I watched porn before. It's porn because I'm like, to me, I'm just like, I'm watching people at work. Even though I've had hot times at work, I just can't get out of that.
I get that. And or like, I know the person, or I know the company, or I know that [__] space. This one's a [__]. I know all your hopes and dreams. I like, can't objectify you. You're like, too much of a real person for me to like, go there.
Yeah. Yeah. So just cartoons. And I remember like, my mom wrote a, the her thesis for her Masters was like, all about like, the history and like, so she was a sociology major, okay, of like, women breastfeeding animals. And there was this like, photo cartoon of these snakes like latched on to this lady's titties and she's like crying and there's like sucking milk out. But she's like, "It's hot, right?" And I definitely now have like, a monster. You know, it's not like, quite like, it's not animals breastfeeding, but I have like, a monster, like, girl thing. And I think that's like, kind of into it. And you know, like snakes or reptilian.
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. There's a connection for sure. Like a, it's like tentacle porn. E, I definitely think like that, like was ingrained in me. Um, so I think that's that's the thing for sure. And it's more of like, my choices in porn and in media that feel important rather than like, acts. If that makes sense. Like, yeah, Jessica Rabbit. I love watching like cartoon babes get [__]. So it's like, I feel like like my, that I can remember things that have shaped my, my porn taste, but not necessarily like fetishes. Like, I don't have an answer for a lot of this.
Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm no. I'm with you. Like, for the J grab thing. See, like, as a kid, big thing for Marge Simpson. That was a big. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I kind of felt like if, you know, if Homer could end up with her, I might have, you know, a chance. Like, I'm a step above that, I think. You know, not to to my own horn. But but same, like Family Guy's kind of the same way. Like, you know, I'm like, "Oh, [__]." Because it's kind of how it always is. Like, the the husband's, you know, some kind of dumb.
Totally. Married with Children. Oh, my God. That was so. That actually kind of turned into a bit of the, um, not necessarily like family, like sort of the family fetish of like, not my family, but me wanting to like hook up with a mom and a daughter because Katie Segal and Christina Applegate were so hot on that show.
I get it. And I also think like, I love like family fetish stuff, but I have like, absolutely no interest in like, my actual family. It's like, you know, like, not these things are not. That's also I think people don't understand with like, fetishes. They're like, "Oh, you're to role play or you're like into step." Whatever. You must actually want to [__] your family. Like, "Absolutely not." I want that. Is I'm so glad you said that. I know. I just want the idea of this pretend person pretending to be this, and then it's like naughty. And vice versa. But like, I don't want to [__] those people at all.
Yes. There's. Yes. That is exactly what there's. It's the taboo behind it that just is is a turn. Like, so I'm like really into like public stuff because you're not supposed to do it. Like, that's the fun of it. So like, yeah, you're not supposed to [__] your, you know, stepmom. But and I've never had a stepmom and my real mom kind of looks like a kind of like John Oats from Hall & Oates. Who you're trying to have sex with? Not really. So, you know, but you know, when you watch porn, you see somebody that looks not like that, you're like, "Oh, holy [__], this works for me." So yeah. Yeah. It's a. People like, don't quite understand like the differentiation. It's like, you know, you can be into BDSM and not like be abusive to people and actually want to hurt people non-consensually. There's a difference.
Yeah. Like, right. There's a difference between BDSM and abuse. Right. And that's how I am too. So actually, this is kind of an interesting one too, because I, there are certain things that I like doing personally, but not like seeing it in porn. That's I think is usually the opposite. But I'm like this too.
Okay. Okay. Like, I never watch anal stuff. Even when I used to watch porn with people. And even in the cartoons that I watch, I don't want to see anal. I love it in my personal life. Like, yeah. Yeah. I just like, don't want to watch it for some reason. It's not appealing to me.
Know why it is. It just is. Just one of those things.
Yeah. It's just one of those things. Yeah. I can think of a reason why. Person. Yeah. See, I'm the same with like BDSM. Like, I, you know, and I'm not like doing anything like crazy in my personal life. But like, well, I don't, maybe. But like, I like someone. Yes. Oh, to a lot of people, probably. But I like doing that. But I don't like seeing it in porn. Because there's something about watching another guy like do [__] like that to a girl.
Interesting. It is. It because you don't know their intentions. And so, like, you know yours when you're doing it. So it feels more comfortable. That has a lot to do with it. And I, I feel like protective.
Okay. That's just gonna sound so weird. But like, I do. I feel like protective of that person. Like, I don't want them to get hurt. Which I know they're not. I know it's like consensual. But my brain just has such a hard time like shutting that off. Yeah. Because I've always felt like I needed to like, protect people. So I've always been like, bigger than everyone. And, you know, which I'm not like, some like powerhouse house of a [__] person by any means. Again, Texas timid. But I, but I just always had that like, feeling like where I just need to like, keep people safe. And so whenever I see something like that important, I feel like, "Oh, like, no, I don't like this." But I love doing it in real life. Which is, yeah, weird. Maybe. I don't know.
The human brain's odd. Like, it's so weird. Yeah. And we know very little about it, really.
Yeah. Yeah. I've been trying to figure out my own out for about 30 years. And it ain't who the [__] knows what's going on.
You never finish.
I think that's the. No, you just spend your life untangling. And you're like, "Oh, this is why I do that. Oh, this is like, what I can do." Like, you know, and you make it. I feel like getting older for me is making life like cooler and cooler and more tolerable because you figure out a little bit more stuff. But like, yeah, you never done.
Exactly. Exactly. You think you're done? You're probably an [__]. I'm sorry.
No, that is ex. Oh my God. That's such a good point. Yes. The people who like feel like they don't have any work to do on themselves. Which those anyone who has too much confidence is an [__]. Like, there's got to be some doubt in there. You got to have a little doubt and humility and something. And like, no one's perfect.
Exactly. Not real. Now, granted, you can go the opposite way. And then it becomes a thing where like, you don't see anything good in yourself. And that's obvious. Yeah. That's, yeah. Right. Extremes are not. No, it's about what do you balance? Figuring out balance.
What do you like most about yourself? I mean, physical, not physical. It could be anything. Like, is there something that like, you just really enjoy that you do or have?
I think I'm pretty like open. And I think about things in a like critical way that I think most people don't. And I like that I have a lot of space for nuance and the grays in the world. And I think we live in a world that like likes to live in extremes. Um, whatever end you're in. And I like being able to see that, uh, and understand that. Um, it's sometimes annoying, but it's a good thing. Um, and like I have, I don't know, great lips. I'm so grateful I don't have to get lip filler.
Really? That's not filler?
Oh, that's not filler. No.
Love. People think I have way more work done than I have.
H. Yeah. I would have guessed, to be honest.
Yeah. No, I did my nose, which I honestly kind of regret. Like, like, I mean, I'm not losing sleep over it, but yeah, I think like, I'm like, "Oh, I wish I had actually just like, learned to like, accept that like I had a big old nose and that I was still hot, like whether I had a bigger nose or not." You know, which I do.
See, I'll tell you, I'll be honest, and I'm not just trying to like, kiss your ass or anything. I have a huge thing for chicks with big noses. That is a huge. I don't know what it is. I don't know where it comes from. But like, that's just always been a thing.
It's nice. Yeah. And so, and I look at more as there's more and more like other like Middle Eastern girls in porn like that don't have their noses done. I'm like, "Oh, like, I look at them and I'm like." And I, I also have like, super like a compassionate for myself because I was like, online for a really long time. And like, having stuff like pointed out at you like will take. I think a thing. Uh, like will take, like a, um, yeah.
Um, that and I had a BBL. Like, cuz I wanted a bigger butt. Yeah. Um, and that is it. You know, that's it. No. There's like Botox. But Botox is just all you're doing is freezing your muscle. I just can't. Like, no.
You're you're a little more reactive than most people I've seen. I need it to move. I going back to us watching Real Housewives. You ain't on. You ain't on that level.
No. When I go like, when I go to like, to the injector, I'm always like, "I want my face." They're like, "Oh, you want it to move?" I'm like, "Yes. I know I'm in LA, but I actually want my face to move. I want people to realize that I'm responding to whatever is happening." But yeah, no. And like, what I've like, years ago, I did like filler here. Doesn't last. Like, doesn't last forever. Yeah. But no. Yeah. I don't even know if you really count that as like a cosmetic procedure. I mean, I guess maybe you do. But you do it. It changes your appearance. But yeah, but it's not permanent. You know.
See, I'm thinking more like boob job, BBL, stuff like that. So you never had a boob job?
Yeah. See, I would have. I mean, obviously. Guess. Yeah. No. They hang. Boob jobs are like, you know, they're like up here.
Tell me about. Yeah. I mean, I like him. That's, you know, that's like a big part of my appeal is like, people, I have like gigantic natural boobs. Like, you know, so yeah, they're stoked. And it's like hard to find. It's hard to find. There are not as many of us. You're not, you're not a lot of like H cups like walking around. Like they're just not.
Yeah. That is a. That is very true. Yes. Yeah. Because H, that is interesting. That has to be a big part of the appeal.
Oh, it's a huge thing. And like, people like that. They like fall a little bit. That they hang a little bit. Because it shows, you know, I used to be so insecure about them when I was younger. And then I realized I was like, "Oh, this is like the thing that like, it's not the only thing, but it's one of the thing like things that people like about me." And now that that I can make money off of and that like people are actually like, really into. And that's like, instead of it being like a, you know, a minus, it's actually like a very like lucrative like thing.
Amen. Yeah. I, uh, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's, I mean, I'm a fan of any kind. You know, I, I don't care size. Things like, doesn't. I like a big butt. But boobs, I don't care.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. See, I'm that's where I kind of head down. I go a little, you know, towards the rear for. That's like actually the first thing I notice. Someone is probably their eyes. That's number one. I mean, face is number one.
Yeah. Face is number one. That's weird. That we just adjusted.
ourselves at the same time. Autism kick in a little. Laying on my [ __ ] went to sleep. Like, yes, but no face. Yes, face is always number one. So anytime somebody's like, "Oh, I'm an ass man," or "I'm a tip man," I'm like, "You're a [ __ ] child." Like, I mean, but I consider, I consider myself an ass man, though. Like, a big butt, I will notice forever. And I'm like, so like, I don't care. Like, I, I think small boobs are cute. I think big boobs are cute. I don't really give a [ __ ]. It's not the thing, you know? I appreciate them, but it's not a thing that I'm like, "Oh, wow, these boobs." You know? Where like, someone will walk by and I will like, my boyfriend calls me, what was it? Uh, oh [ __ ], I can't remember. Damn it would be good, but whatever. He makes fun of me because I'm like, "Oh yeah, I, uh, I stare." Oh, don't even. I used to try to hide it, do the peripheral thing. Not anymore. I mean, I, you know, may I hope turn myself around sometimes because I'm like, "You gotta stop." You know?
Just, all right, there have been times where I have audibly went, "Jesus!" Like, and then people look. I'm like, and then just go back to pretending like I'm, you know, looking at my phone. But yeah, like you see like a, a nice asso buy, and it is impossible not to notice. Like, I mean, it's just, yeah, just one of those things. Like, but, but in general, like, what I'm most attracted to would be person, like eyes for sure. That's that's byy. And LGE, whole face for me. Like, I'm like, if I don't like your face, you could have whatever people consider the most perfect body. I don't give a [ __ ]. I'm like, "Yeah, that's in." Yeah, yeah.
What's, what's like your biggest non-sexual or non-physical turn on? Non-sexual, non-physical? Like, it's just a thing that, uh, okay, I've got three. Perfect. I, I need someone smart. Intelligence is a huge thing. I really need it. Um, you have to be able to just get like super stupid. Like, be so dumb with me. Like, because that's where I find pure joy. So like, a silliness. So like, really smart, really silly, and like kind. And like, like, like I like compassionate people. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I like, you know, and I want to be pushed to be more compassionate myself. And so I think that's like, really important, especially after being around other folks that you know, or been in the past with folks who were not those things, you know, specifically like compassionate. And like, I'm like, "Oh yeah, like, never doing." I don't think I want to do that ever again, you know? Yeah. I have a hard time being with somebody who doesn't have some sort of empathy. And I'm not saying you got to just be like, you know, going doing charity work 24/7 to have just like, some ability to see things from another person's perspective. Exactly. Yeah. And, yeah, intelligence is a big one too. Yeah. I can't see the dummies. Yeah, it's hard. Like, I'm a big reader. And someone who's like, "Oh, I, I don't read." I'm like, "How the now, how the [ __ ] does that happen?"
So funny on IG today, I posted some photos of me with a book. And someone was like, "Did you see he's like, 'Oh, she's not that smart.'" I was like, "It doesn't take a genius to know how to read." No, it's actually one of the first things you learn how to do. It was so funny. I just like, I'm like, "I don't know." I don't think that's like a flex or, yeah, yeah, to be like, "Look at me, I can [Laughter] read." But do you read a lot? I mean, I read a lot. Yeah, yeah. Do you have like a certain type of book that you like to read? No. Um, I read almost everything except for like romance or like heavy fantasy. I like sci-fi. Less so into fantasy. Gotcha. Um, but I pretty much, yeah, I read non-fiction. I read fiction. Um, yeah, yeah, history, biology, uh, and then like, just like literature. So it's kind of all over the place.
That's, no, I'm with you. I'm the same. Like, history, obviously. And, uh, yeah, history and then philosophy. I love reading my philosophy books. Like, um, SAR, people, Albert K, which I don't know if listen to because we were talking about ABD, like absurdism. And yeah, like secure guard and people like that. Fascinating [ __ ] [ __ ]. Um, I mean, most of them are out of their goddamn minds. Um, it's fascinating to hear, you know, some because some of the stuff like just resonates. Like, you know, I'll read like 20 different books on philosophy and most of them I'm just like, "All right, I mean, I get what they're saying, but I don't give a [ __ ]." And then one person's thing will come up and it'll become like, "Holy [ __ ], this is how I felt always." It's just weird. You like the, oh, what the [ __ ] are they called? Um, when there's not me, you know, life is meaningless, but you create tional. Thank you. Thank you. You like the ex. Yes. So like Albert Kim. So Sarta K. Kiru is my favorite. Yeah, yeah. So K, the whole idea, yeah, yeah, of life being mean and and then like reading like The Stranger and, you know, books like that were, yeah, I, that's my, my go-to for sure. I mean, my favorite book of all time is Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka. You ever read it? But yeah, it's, I, I mean, apparently there's a meaning to it and, you know, I don't know what it is, but I love it. I just, I enjoy that book for some reason. It just resonates with me. The idea of waking up as an insect is like, just, which I don't know what that says about me, but yeah. Yeah, that's amazing.
Yeah, that's funny that people are like, "Not thinking that you read." Like, you actually, I mean, you come ACR bro, it's wild. Or like, they'll be like, "If I wear a band shirt, they'll be like, 'Do you really listen to that band?'" I'm like, one, I know you do. You don't ask men this. Like, ever. Second, like, honestly, if I wasna fake interest, I would have done something like, I like boring KNE [ __ ] that's like not like great for the internet. If I was gonna fake interest, I would have been like smer about it, you know? Like, nobody gives a [ __ ] about like new reading, really. Kind of, you know, there's like a couple, there's a handful that are soaked, but you know, it's not like if I wanted to really do it, I would have like been a, you know, a fake gamer. Yeah. Really made that. That's so funny. People do only ask women that question. Oh, which I've never really thought about because I think it sometimes, like if I see somebody wearing a shirt, I'm like, "I wonder if they actually like that B." I don't like necessarily judge them like, "Oh, they shouldn't be wearing it." I just wonder like, in my head, like, like, how, why do you like him? How do you get into him? It's more like curiosity than judgment. Um, but yeah, I like, I'm never like, "Going to ask somebody, name three songs from that band."
Well, and like, I'm covered in tattoos and have like a, like ram skull and snake back piece. And then they're surprised I listen to metal. I'm like, "I don't know, like, that's like pretty obvious, you know what I mean?" Like, I get maybe some people like where it's like, "Oh, seems out of character." But I'm like, like, I'm a porn girl from the bay wearing a Baya metal shirt. Like, yeah, it's not a, it's not a stretch of the imagination. Yeah, exactly. You know, I started off on websites called like Burning Angel. That was like all punk. Like, like all goth girls. I remember. Yeah, tell me about it. That was my go-to. Embarrassing, but yeah. Like, like, yeah, this like should not surprise you. No. Yeah. And and to be honest, like, if I was just making an assumption about you, I would assume that you have a pretty wide range of taste and do you know a pretty extensive knowledge of, you know, bands and artists. Like, if I was just making an assumption, which I guess I'd be right. So maybe assumptions aren't always bad if they're informed. Yeah. Yeah.
So I do have a bunch of, or not a bunch, but like some random questions. Uh, just kind of some old rapid fire. What was your childhood celebrity crush? Okay, rapid fire. Well, not, I mean, you can take your time. I, you know, there's no, there's no. I don't know what age. Cuz it, they're all, they're all pretty, they're all turned out to be like, total jackasses. Oh, well, that's even better. When I was like, little, little, like I had like a Titanic poster with like Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, yeah, that's a good one. Not Billy Zane. Not for Kathy Bates, which, no. But now I'm like, "Oh, Billy Zane." Like, definitely sexy. Billy, Billy Zane's a hot [ __ ]. Yeah, Billy Zane's a good one. It was supposed to be Rob Lowe, which is interesting. Rob Lowe was supposed to play that part, which that would have been so strange. Yeah, yeah. Real weird. Weird. But Rob actually is pretty good at being a prick. Like, if you ever watch Tommy Boy, it's obviously like a dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the ways world. I can't remember one or two. One, Christopher Walken. In Way 2, in W 2, it's Christopher Walken. Yeah, yeah. That's it, right? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Leo, any. What are like, do you have any embarrassing ones? Because Leo is not an embarrassing one. That's, you know, that's a. When I was like 12, Marilyn Manson. That's pretty embarrassing. Oh my God. Let me tell you something. Marilyn. I, you know, I know we, we're not supposed to like Marilyn Manson. I can't. It's not good. Sorry. Go ahead. No, no, no, no. You go. Okay. So like, I am not, um, I, I believe everything anybody says. Like, I'm like, "Yes, totally. That makes the most sense." Yeah. His the stuff he makes is not good enough for me to justify being like, "Art before, uh, artist." But there're definitely. I do believe in that. Like, I like, I love Roman Polanski movies. He's a terrible human being who deserves to die. Like, that guy should get shot. Like, you know. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you. No, you didn't take it too far. I know that's what you're thinking. You didn't take it too far. Okay, good. Yeah. Roman Polanski is a monster. Do I Rosemary's Baby? Yes. Am I gonna go online and be like, "He's innocent?" Because I like this movie? No. You're not gonna be like the 70 actors who signed their name to that list saying he should be able to come back to the US. Yeah. Oh my God. Talk about every one of them. Meryl Streep. There's, I said, like, she's watching this. Yeah, you're like, Mar, yeah, Meryl Streep. Close. Yeah, yeah. All of you can [ __ ] right off. Don't get [ __ ]. Yeah, yeah. That is. No, he's a monster. And, yeah, Jack Nicholson had way more to do with this thing than people give him credit for because it was at his house. Well, have you seen Jack Nicholson's like, it's that guy sucks. Look, Jack Nicholson. Did you look it up? Look up. Wait, what? He has been convicted and wasn't a think he beat a sex worker to the point of brain damage? Yes. I saw that. He sucks too. I still like his movies, but like, he sucks. Yes. He passes. It's, it's the, it's the Michael test. Do they pass the, the Thriller test? You know, it's, it's, yeah, it's passing the Thriller test. Like, is their work good enough? Because I can still listen to Michael Jackson and I will continue to do so. Now, I know he was looking into people's buttholes. The reality of things. Yeah. And I think there's complicated stuff. I don't know. I've had people like be very judgmental of me for like still consuming that. I'm like, "As long as I'm not justifying." I don't know. I don't know. You know, because also a movie isn't made by one person. So you say, "Oh, we should boycott Rosemary." Well, Rosemary's Baby's a bad example because it's [ __ ] 60 years old. But like, say Roman Polanski makes a movie and you say, "We should boycott this movie." Well, there was about 400 people working on that movie who you were also boycotting, who did nothing wrong. I would maybe like, if, okay, if it's still coming out, I would steal it. Which is so anti when I preach because I porn and we're destroyed by. But I'm like, "Okay, if you're like a serial rapist, I'm I'm gonna steal your, like, I won't financially contribute." But back to Marilyn Manson, it's just like, it's not good. Like, my 12-year-old like crush, like whatever is not strong enough. You know what I, I don't know. I get that. I mean, look, Marilyn Manson was like a hero to me as a kid, which is so weird to say now. Embarrassing. Also, it's just like, bad. It's not very good. Like, when you go back, like maybe some, there's some bangers, but like, a lot of it is like, kind of.
His music's amazing. I don't know what you're talking about. His music is incredible. The first like three or four albums. I mean, then he goes real, it gets a little haywire. But I mean, Mar Manson is, have you also seen him live? Terrible. It's, I saw him live. Um, have you? Okay, so he's actually like lost a bunch of weight and apparently is sober and sounds amazing now. Like, he just went back on tour opening for Five Finger Death Punch, which is not a. That is hilarious. Nothing to brag about. Joy. Yeah, I know. I figured it might. But so I saw him. I saw with the Smashing Pumpkins and it was pretty rough. I mean, Smashing Pumpkins were amazing. Yeah, I've seen them play. They're, they're Inc. Manon was so. Mar Manson was, you know, bit overweight, which I know, you know, pot call pot kettle [ __ ], but Mar Manson was a little overweight. So he still did the stilts thing, except this own [ __ ] came out on stilts that were about this tall. May as well have been on still in stilettos. And he was walking around. I was like, "This ain't, this ain't the way it should be." Yeah. Girl need stop. Yeah. It was, um, yeah, it was a let down. Heard really funny stories about him through porn people like a decade ago. Um, I'm not enough. But it's very. No, I got you. I've heard some stories too through, uh, comedians who, because he's friends with some comics who, uh, yeah. Um, so I met him whenever I was, uh, seven years old. Met Manson. Wait, 2001. Yeah. Eight years old. So yeah, yeah. So I was already a huge fan. Like, even as a little, little kid. So this is like in 2000, um, at Bush Gardens, an amusement park in Tampa Bay. Marilyn was just walking around with bodyguards at an amusement park. Granted, Tampa Bay, middle of the summer. We were there on vacation. Like, I'm not from Tampa or anything. Um, but a girl in line, one of the rides is like, "Hey, do you want to know Marilyn Manson's here?" And I immediately, like, "Holy [ __ ], we have to find Marilyn Manson." So my mom was like, "All right, we'll go." And we went around this whole park looking for Marilyn Manson. Found him. This son of a [ __ ] is wearing full, I mean, it's got to be 105 degrees. Human. This son of a [ __ ], full makeup, full black everything, black like Bally trench coats, which, yeah. And I'm like, "There's no, like, the gimmick has to stop here. Like, you can't tell me you were comfortable right now." And I, yeah, I just remember like seeing them being like, "Holy [ __ ], there's Marilyn Manson." And to me, he looked like he was like eight feet tall. And bet he was wearing platform shoes. So yeah. So anyways, so yeah, Mar Manson. So there was the first question.
Um, what was your first concert like? Decent concert? Oh, I don't remember. Big. I mean, I remember the first show I went to was like a terrible 420 ska show when I was like 11, like slightly stupid or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Um, I can't remember what my first like big official show was. Hm. That's no idea, really. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Mine was, I mean, the first show I went to was the Misfits. And then, uh, after that, I saw Smashing Pumpkins by themselves, not with the. I, um, so my ex-husband opened up for, uh, what was it? Um, Sam Hayne. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so I was like, backstage. We were in the green room. Everybody, each band had their own green room. And Dan like walks by, the door is open, we're smoking weed. MH. Walks by, goes into his room. Then his bodyguard comes back and it's like, "The smoke is bothering Glenn's voice." While this [ __ ] is like, in his room, like, not even like around anybody. And made us pull it out. And I was just like, "Oh, like Danzig knocked on us." It was very funny. You know what I'd do the same thing. I hate the smell of weed smoke. [ __ ] hate it. I love the smell of weed. Like, just smelling it in the bag. Which I don't smoke weed. Oh, the smoke bothers me. So I would pull a Danzig. Dancing. Very funny. Just, I'm like, you're like, it's like a rock show. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is kind of crazy. Well, his backstage antics are a little. Well, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, or be like, "Close the room." Like, I could get that. Like, close the door. So funny. Was such a fun ban Nana movie. That's amazing. That's so [ __ ] incredible.
What's a movie that, what movie do you think you've seen the most? I don't know. Uh, maybe it's a French film. This NY, uh, it's a French surrealist film called Pan, called, it's the Donkey Skin. It's like a fairy tale with the Kine denv. It's, uh-huh. When did this come? When did it come out? Uh, late. Yeah, late. 60s. Okay. Part. So I'm, yeah, uh, about to sound a little snobby myself. A huge fan of that, uh, that era of French film. Like, the French, uh, you know, New Wave. Jean-Luc Godard. Like, The Weekend. The Weekend is one of my favorite movies. Um, and yeah, I always feel like I sound like a prick saying that. But no, it's fine. I will. Yeah, yeah. And like Swedish films from like the 60s are always really good. I don't know if you ever watched like Persona, but is it amazing? I don't know Swedish film at all. Oh, they're so good. Um, the main guys is like Ingmar Bergman. Or, yeah, okay. No, yes. The, okay, yeah, yeah. So I, I've seen his stuff. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Like The Seventh Seal and stuff like that. Wild Strawberries. Wild Strawberries with him. Wild Strawberries. Yeah. It's Wild Strawberries. So yeah, he made The Seventh Seal and then made Wild Strawberries. Yeah. Wild Strawberries is great. I love that movie. That's amazing. I did not think we were going to be bonding over 1960s Swedish films either. I totally for. I forget. I'm like, "Oh, I know some." I forget. Like, I'm like, "Oh, I know a little because I know a little like here and there of a lot of stuff where like I might like not be an expert, but I'm like, 'Okay, I know like the.'" Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, you know, I'm no Barbara Walters by any means, but the fact that we started this talking about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and it pretty much ended it talking about Swedish films from the 60s. I feel like I have range. I mean, I mean, and I want to thank you for being part of this range. Actually.
Do have a few more questions. Do you have time? I mean, I don't want to. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Um, some movie. Oh God. So what is a song that a popular song that no matter what, or it could be artist too, that is an automatic skip? Like when it comes on, nope, not listening. Ah, uh, it's a cross between, uh, Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus. I'm with you. I'm sorry. And I know this is like, most of the world disagrees with me. Um, most of the world sucks. H. It's, it's, it's rough. Yeah. And like, I, yeah, it's so funny. I, yeah, I have a really hard. It's not all modern pop music. There is some that I like. Yeah, but very little. Where I like pop from a lot of other decades. But I get less, I'm less into. What I know, I'm old. And I dated someone like in the music industry, you know, like that, like that's what he, you know, he did. He, oh, yeah. Damn. No, he's, but he's a music producer. And so he's like, and he's done a lot of hip-hop and a lot of like mainstream pop. And really, I don't know. We'll be walking around and like, we're at a store and I'm like, "Oh, I hate this song." And he's like, "I did that." I'm like, "Sorry." Look, you can't help it. I mean, you hate what you hate. Like, I, I also like, you know, like, you know, he's not what he makes is not necessarily always his tastes, to you know. Yeah, of course. But, but yeah, I don't like a lot of the modern pop. There's like, sometimes here and there, there's a song that gets through to me and I'm like, "Okay, I get it." But like, yeah, I'm with you.
See, I'm a big fan of old school. Like 70s, probably ABBA. I mean, I'll say this, scream this, I will scream this from the mountaintops, from the Alps. Madonna. I like. I like. I like up until the, I like the 90s Madonna. [ __ ]. Oh, I love early 2000s Madonna. I actually. Me too. Yes. I just, oh God, here we go. So I just went on like a little bit of a bender before we started this, just watching music videos from like my childhood. And "Ray of Light" from Madonna came on. It's one of the greatest songs ever made. It's so good. Love that record. It was super fun. Yeah, it's like when you know. Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, watch Madonna do like Kabbalah Hinduism." I'm like, "Sure, girl." With a British accent for six years for no reason. I'm like, "Whatever." Yeah. I, yeah, I can't help [ __ ] I like. Right. I mean, Nancy Sinatra would be considered like, would be top. Yeah, for sure. Like, and I like in bad 90s like club hits. Like enjoy. You know, a lot of like Crystal Waters, Colbie Caillat. Bad. Oh, yeah. No, like that's all. Yeah. I, I'm, I'm with you. I'm a fan of any of that. I just, oh, that's a huge. Like, if I could go back in time, actually today, if if Sheila E offered it, it's happening. Yeah. Like Sheila is so [ __ ] attractive to me for some reason. So attractive. Like plays the drums like crazy. Like just like talent. Talent is attractive. Might be one of the most like aphrodisiac is things. That's not a word. No way. But no, you follow. Yeah, yeah. I mean, all words are made up, so I'm just doing what everyone else did. Um, yeah, yeah. Her like, I mean, Debbie Harry's always the go-to. If you go back in time, like, yeah. Um, damn, that's an interesting one. So mine though, for the record, is Oasis. [ __ ] hate Oasis. I don't give a [ __ ] that they're reuniting. [ __ ] them. I like to sing them in a really obnoxious like fake accent. So like them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, exactly. Like, like that's what I like to do. If I'm like intoxicated and there's like enough people and we do that, that's how the only way I kind of enjoy Oasis. Is like in that like format. I'm like, "Thank you." But that's. I do the same thing. Like, if I've been just ripping through sigs all night, I will bust out some Springsteen or Van Morrison. Cigarettes. Oh, word. Okay. You know, haers, haers. We don't. No, that is not slay in California. I don't know if it's sling in Texas either, to be fair. Okay. Well, wherever, wherever you pick that up, I do not know. But I'm also, yes, so go acoustic. Full cigarettes. If after I've knocked down about half a pack, I will start busting out Bruce Springsteen or U. Yeah, Van Morrison. I'll sing like "Brown-Eyed Girl" like about as gravelly as I can because my voice will get a little, you know, a little roughness to it. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's embarrassing, but you know, you live once and that's it. You have to.
What's a band you wish you could have seen in concert who you can't see, like bands done? Um, so for me, The Doors. That's number one. Yeah. Or David Bowie. David Bowie'd be like a close second. That's a hard one. Oh, yeah. Oh, I don't know. No. Oh, you know what? I would have loved to see like Leonard Cohen perform. That's a good one. I, I love Leonard Cohen. And like, I feel like he would watch it and like have feelings and maybe cry a little bit. Like, I don't know. I feel like that's like would be the vibe. Which I'm like, "Yeah, I think that's a good one." Yeah. Leonard Cohen's a great choice. So good. Yeah. Lou Reed also would be up there. And I know a lot of people kind of [ __ ] on people if they say they like Lou Reed. She like, whatever. I like Lou Reed. I don't care. I like The Velvet Underground. Love. I think Andy Warhol might be one of the most overrated human beings to ever exist. Um, Andy Warhol. I mean, did nothing. He did nothing. Which that was the point. It was the point. I just don't care. I just don't care. And like, the only pieces I did like is him replicating like gay porn. That was it. And and but I get, I get the concept. And I get for the time. I don't, I don't care. Like, I, I can. And you know, he would have been like insufferable. Like, you know, that guy. Most of us like, I mean, he would, someone shot him for a reason. Yes. Valerie Solanas shot him after writing the feminist manifesto. Ask manifesto. Like, get it, girl. Yeah. I would have, oh, I would have pumped his ass full of lead too after one conversation. So, you know.
There's a funny story, which I'll keep it quick. So Bob Dylan was at one point dating Edie Sedgwick. You know, was the model. Model. Yeah, yeah. So they were dating and he went to pick up, uh, her from the Silver Factory. And Andy Warhol wanted to meet him. He was like, "Uh, why do I have to meet this guy to take out this girl? Like, this is weird." They met, did not get along. But Andy Warhol wanted to do a painting of them. So he did and gave it to Bob Dylan as a present. Now, that painting may be worth probably what, 80 million today. Bob Dylan used it as a dartboard in his studio. That's amazing. Hated Andy Warhol, which makes me love Bob Dylan even more. That's very funny. Bob Dylan's an interesting one. Interesting phases. You're like, "Have you ever seen?" I'm not there. I did not. I, no. I did. I saw bits of it and I couldn't really stand. And I love, uh, what's her name? Cate. But I could not do this. Really. I don't know why. It just was so obnoxious. And it's not, it wasn't the gender. I don't care. Was not it. I wasn't like, "Oh, too much for me to handle." You know, a woman, a woman play a man. Yeah. Now granted, when he apparently when he was 8 years old, he was an African-American child. But, um, I just kind of mad. But I'm also like, I, I really complicated feelings about Bob Dylan. I, there's some songs that I really like. And as someone who likes like poetry as like a songwriter, really appreciate it. I also find him like annoying and obnoxious. I like all the feelings with him. And most of it I don't like. But like, "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again." Like, I love that song. Is that what it's called? Uh, yes. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. That's like, that's like a very good. I know exactly how you feel. Sometimes I feel like he's just making up a bunch of gibberish that people just kind of put meaning to. You're like, "We get it. We get it. Calm down." But, you know, if I'm listening to "Shelter From The Storm," I feel safe and happy. And all the "Watchtower." Great God. Yes. I mean, yeah, I mean, he has that image and, you know, that fame for a reason. He's [ __ ] Bob Dylan. Yeah. Now granted, I mean, that son of a [ __ ] could be walking down the street and you would never know it was him. You'd be like, "Who's this homeless woman?" But it's Bob Dylan. But yeah, that's a, yeah.
I just saw, um, probably Neil Young's last tour. I [ __ ] hate Neil Young so much. [ __ ] Why do you Neil Young? I just, his voice gets on my [ __ ] nerves. And I, but the crazy thing is that I like some of his songs. Like, I love like a lot of the Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young stuff, like "Ohio" and all that. Yeah. So I love that. And I think he is one of the most underrated guitarists of all time. Like "Southern Man." "Southern Man" is is a great song. But there's just so much he didn't do. Yes. He did. "Southern Man." Sorry. I was thinking, um, what the, the response, the Leonard Skinner. Oh, "Alabama." Yes. Yes. Not a fan of that. Yes, yes, yes. So "Southern Man" and then there's there's a few. "Old Man" is a great song. But then there's like "Heart of Gold" and a lot of those songs. I hate those songs. "Heart of Gold" makes me cry. Like, I cried watching it. I was just like, "Oh, yeah." I'm just not a, I don't know what it is. Like, I'm just not a, yeah, I never really liked Neil Young. I mean, I don't like the Eagles. Eagles, another band that I [ __ ] hate. I love the Eagles. When I like, so into dad Yacht Rock. Like it. Oh God, we're listen. We're here we go. Another level to our bonding. Michael McDonald, Kenny Loggins. All that stuff is like, oh my God, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve, creepy Uncle. You know, it's like your uncle that like, you wouldn't really trust around the kids. That's what he listens to. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So there's, yeah, because there's Yacht Rock, which is more the Michael McDonald, Boz Scaggs, Kenny Loggins, Hall & Oates. But yeah, then there's creepy Uncle. Um, yeah, who's always got a couple crushed up Camel Lights in his car. Has has money, but you don't know where it comes from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that guy. That's a Steve Miller Band. Like, old school Aerosmith type guy. Where you're like, "What is a foreigner?" Listen. A lot of Foreigner. Okay. Like this. Yeah. ELO, maybe a little bit. Oh, yeah. Love him. Yeah. That's a, that's a, a sketchy uncle's, uh, play, I guess. That's what I am. I'm like a sketchy go. I guess I am too. Which is not, not good to. I love the Eagles. It's like, and I don't know what happened. But in. Do you hate Jerry Rafferty? Oh, I like Jerry Rafferty. So good. Okay. Yeah. I like Jerry Rafferty. I like, uh, uh, who sings "Dream Weaver?" Gary Wright, is that his name? I don't remember. But I know the Gary W. Yeah, he's incredible. Uh, uh, Christopher Cross. Like all that kind of stuff is. I don't know. Christopher Cross. Uh, you would definitely know some of his songs. You just may not know the name. I'll, uh, yeah, I might make you like a little Spotify playlist. Now that I'm thinking about it. Just down. Oh, yeah. Down. No, this was [ __ ] amazing. I had a great time talking with you. We covered a lot of random [ __ ]. Yes, we did. Kind of the point. So I guess, you know, mission accomplished. But yeah, so before we go, again, plug, promote, where can people find you, all that good stuff? Find me on OnlyFans. Arabella. [Music] [Music] Raphael.js. I used to when I first started, like, like over a decade ago, um, used to so much. And I chose self-care. And so like beyond like controversial like musician takes, like I will not. I care about myself. No, you know, I'm like, I'll keep my like politics to me. It's a great way to be. It's how people used to be. I don't want to interact with a bunch of vessel online about it. God, I'm with you. Now I try to make it to where no one knows what I think. And I think I've done a good job. But I think there's some things that might just be unavoidable. You know, I think I think really [ __ ] stupid. Like, you might not get it, but I feel like following my stuff to a certain degree, you're like, "Okay, you know, he kind of get a little bit of a vibe." I'm with you. God. Well, again, thank you so much. This has been a [ __ ] blast. [Music]