Ranking the 25 Best NBA Players in 2026 | The Panel

Yo yo, it is Friday and we have a special episode because, you know, we went we just went through a whole beautiful NBA season. You know, we went through the ups and the downs, the inseason tournaments, the All-Star games. Uh, we went through blowouts, we went through close games, game-winners, all of that stuff. And we got a chance to really, really, really, really, really see everybody on a full scale. We've seen regular season, preseason, playoffs, everything. And now we are here on June 10th ranking the top 25 players from the past season.

This is going to be a good episode because here's the thing. Obviously, the playoffs didn't go as expected with some people. So, this top five is really going to be shaken up. And we're doing this based on, you know, just to put the full context out there, it's not based on who's the best players, who's the most talented, who produces the most. It is based on who played the best this past season, regular season and playoffs included.

Uh, chat, let's get into it, fellas. How we feeling?

Good. Yo, cuz it sounds like it sounds like we got a criteria, Domo. It sounds like we got okay. Who's not just better at basketball? Who's a better basketball player or no? What did you produce this season? How much better were you than this guy? When were you better than this guy? How long were you better than this guy? And what setting did you become better than this guy? When did you become better than this guy? So, I'm glad we actually doing this, Ron, because at least we got a criteria and we can figure out exactly where we stand when it comes to these guys because I've heard some things and you guys can straighten me out.

Thanks. This happens. Yeah, I've heard some things. You guys can straighten me out. This happens, Domo. Every time a team wins an NBA championship. Like, we can't just marvel at a guy being awesome. Now, we got to take this dude and we got to start putting him in spaces and conversations that maybe he doesn't belong in yet, which now diminishes him instead of just enjoying who this guy is and how awesome he is. So, for example, now I got to listen to Jaylen Brunson is better than Chris Paul. Jaylen Brunson is better than John Stockton. Jaylen, Jaylen, see what I'm talking about? Instead of instead of yo, Jaylen Brunson had an awesome postseason. Jaylen Brunson had a great season, but now we got to start talking about him like we were talking about these other guys. We did the same thing with Anthony Davis in 2020. Anthony Davis better than Karl Malone now. Like, can we relax? Can we chill out?

Yo, it was a bit deserved. I mean, I don't know. Look, you know what? Yeah, with you, man. I don't know who was out their right mind giving AD all that praise when he was the best player on the final court. I don't know who was doing that. I don't know.

Yeah. That was that was wild, huh?

Uh, those were good times. Those those were classic times. And now, chill. You know, think about it. Six years from now, we're going to look back and say this was a classic episode. And I mean, y'all know how this goes. There's going to be some people that a lot of people are going to think are overrated in this list. Then there's going to be some people, you know, maybe a Canadian or two that think that some people are underrated. So, you know how that goes.

Is there a games played requirement?

Yes, Mars. Because see, yes, here's why. Cuz see, Mars, when we do the games, when we do the games, when we don't do the games played, what we're now doing is I'm just better at basketball than you are.

And it's more than that.

It is more. I, I, I think it's more than that. I could just think you played better, but you played less.

That's what I'm asking. I just.

So if, if, if you, if did you play better if you played less? Cuz what I mean when I say that, Mars, is we ran a race and you and I both ran a race and we ran a 100 and you and me were like this at the 100 and then I don't know, maybe at 60 yards, I pulled away from you and I ended up. But you ended up. Let me rephrase that, Moss. You ended up at 60 yards, you were this much in, you were this much in front of me and then after 60 yards, I pulled away from you. Does that mean that does that mean you were still better than me? No. That player, I would say no. But like, for example, right? Giannis played 36 games this year. So obviously he's not going to be over Shay, Luka, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Sure. But when we get down to the 21st best player in the league, why can't I say Giannis's 36 games are better than that player's 60 games?

Even then, I, I would say before 21st. Uh, Giannis is better than 21.

Yeah, I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is, I agree. If it's if it's if it's close, like, like Chill said, we're we're like here, 60 yards, but then I beat you to 100 cuz you stop playing. Cool. Give the guy who played more in a matter of his close, benefit of the doubt.

I think it's more like.

If you're.

Yeah.

I would think it, I would think it's more so like if you're doing a 100 and I'm pulling away, I'm ahead of you by 60 yards, but then I pull a hamstring and now you beat me. That's that's kind of what the game minimum requirement looks like to me. A guy like Giannis, if he played 55 games. Just throwing a number out there. He played 50 games, 55 games. He could have been better than people for 50 games. He gets hurt. He can't play the rest. Those last 15 don't make you better than me. You're just more healthy. Being more healthy, someone doesn't make you better in my opinion.

So, but but see, Domo, that's what the divide is cuz Moss, you just brought up an interesting point that, okay, sure. Can I say that he's, can I say that he's better than the, I don't know, the 18th best player because I only played 36 games? Well, then that goes back to the logic. I'm just better than you. Whether I play 10 games or I play 80 games, I'm still just better than you regardless. It doesn't make a difference. Which now defeats the purpose of us actually having a conversation about what kind of season you had because you only played two months. And in the two months that you played, you were better than me for two months, but throughout the course of the season, Scotty Barnes, for an example, and I know we don't want to bring up Scotty Barnes. Scotty Barnes, for an example. Scotty Barnes, for an example. Scotty Barnes had a fantastic season on both sides of the basketball. He wasn't good. He wasn't just good on offense. He was good on offense and defense. Giannis is better than him.

Period.

Right. I think Giannis is a. I know that sounds crazy, Domo, but Giannis is a better player than him. So, so, so, so does it, does it, does it not matter? Does does it not matter that I got busier than you this season even though you are a better player than me and what you did those 36 games? Does that not matter? Because what I don't want to do, Moss, is I don't want to get trapped in the, you just are a better player than me no matter what I do. You're just better than me.

Yeah, but chill, also too, and Giannis is what it was 36 games.

He only played a month and a half.

36. Mhm.

His 36 games is better than 98% of the league's 82.

His his 20.

Expensive, but.

2020. So Giannis was basically 28, 10 and 5 on 62%.

He was actually 30 and 10. That's what he.

For a second, but remember he missed a couple games.

His minutes went down.

Yeah, his minutes went down. He was 310 and 6. So like.

On like ridiculous efficiency.

And so like, like respectfully to Scotty Barnes, he's not above Giannis on my list of players in 2026.

I'm, I'm not ranking him. Now, Giannis is going to slide for me.

I don't think he's going to slide all the way into Scotty Barnes territory.

But that's where it gets weird, right? Which is why I asked cuz like in my opinion, it make not, it makes more sense. It feels better to omit Giannis because he didn't play enough than have Giannis at 16 because he played 36 games or the guys you played like it was just make more sense in my brain if we just be like, Giannis played like a top five player. We just didn't play enough so we just didn't rank him as opposed to, yeah, we're going to rank everyone. Now Giannis ends up at 16. So then when we put the list out, it says Giannis is the 16th best player in the NBA.

So, what, what do you think the game cut off should be if you were to do it? What would the game cut off? I don't think that I don't think there should be one. I think you should vote how you want.

Well, it goes back to cuz Mars, you, you, you just put up another interesting point. We did the same thing with Joel Embiid. The same thing with Joel Embiid a couple years ago when we were ranking these players and Joel Embiid like barely gave us 40-something games. And it looked weird that Joel Embiid was at like nine or 10, some nonsense like that. Even though when he played, it wasn't five dudes in a game better than him definitively, right? But the fact that he only gave us 40 games.

Well, you know, you, that, that is kind of a requirement. You being here does matter.

I mean, as busy as you do get, you do, being you, you being, which goes back to the original logic, the 25-26 season, how often did you play? How busy did you get?

Who did you get busy against? And when did it matter the most? When did you get busy?

I think that's fine. If you want to vote that way, I'm not going to hold it against you.

That's.

I'm. This is how I feel about the All-NBA team. Same thing. If that's your criteria, vote with that. But if someone else is like, I just want to rank when you played, who were the 25 best performers and they go with that and they vote Giannis at five, that's their prerogative. That's how I view it. So, I, I think if you want to take games played into account, you're muted by the way. If you want to take games played into account, then do that. If you don't, then don't. That's kind of how I.

I'm comfortable with that, Moss, because I think I can argue my stance about taking games into account. I'm, I'm, I'm comfortable with that. I think I can argue my stance.

It's, it's really only how many guys are we taking into account anyways? It's really just Giannis. And who else didn't play that many games?

Steph only played like 40 games this year.

Steph and, um, was Jimmy.

Steph and Kyrie, of course. Kyrie didn't touch the floor though.

Players just not going to throw up there. Jason, Jason Tatum didn't play. He didn't come back late.

Jason Tatum might be interested.

Yeah.

Jason Tatum came back.

All right. No, it's, it's a good group of things. I do think Tatum should be on this list.

Because he played in the playoffs.

That's essentially all he did down to be honest.

No, he played, he played like the last month, last week.

He played six games in the playoffs. So he might have played less games in total than Giannis did.

Yeah. Well, he played 20 games.

He definitely did. I say he definitely played less games than Giannis.

Well, probably. Yeah. I just don't want to.

I heard, I heard a lot of.

He played 16. He played 22 games in Toby. This team was saying, Ron, so are we, are we, are we going to, are you going to set some some standards or do we get to vote how we want? The best.

No, it's, it's, it's up to y'all.

That's what we're having a conversation about right now.

All right. Yeah, I was listening on my, um, I was listening. I just want to cuz Ron didn't, you know, Ron didn't make any definite.

Standards. He never, you know, stand.

See, the, the thing about it is, you, you got. No, no, no. You guys all have. Yeah, exactly. You guys all have complex minds. I know. You know, you might have a bit of a bird brain, X, you know. But the rest of us, you know, we all can.

You definitely got a bird brain. No question about it. You got a [ __ ] bird brain. You definitely, chill.

That thing, that thing inside your head that needs to get dusted off. All right.

You, you got a bird neck. When I see you, I'm going to break it.

Oh my goodness. I'm so. I'm holding the box. I promise you snap. You know how you get them chickens and you swim around, pluck them. But I.

Great way to explain it.

Mars, you just brought, you brought up, like, Mars, you brought up, uh, did you say Jason?

That's wild, huh?

He played six playoff games. So he played six, six playoff games plus the 16 games in the regular season. That's two weeks.

That's basically two weeks, almost a month.

That he played. No. So I think I, again, I, I think that I can argue my stance about these guys not playing or playing more. I think I can argue my stance.

I feel.

So, chill, are you not going to vote for Giannis when I bring him up at at the number one spot?

At all? Like, like number one or at all? So, what I'm doing right now, so before we get started, Giannis, Joel Embiid, Jason Tatum are out. They didn't play enough for me to have a, for, for me to have a, for me to have a healthy sample size for what they did for, for what everybody else did. I can't compare Scotty Barnes who played, what did Scotty Barnes play? 70-something games this year. I can't compare Scotty. He played 80 games this year. I can't compare Scotty Barnes to Jason Tatum who barely played a month. I can't compare those two. I will say if the last three spots get nasty, I am going with Embiid. Tatill Joel.

I'm going to be voting for them, but I'm fine with Chill. Job.

Right?

Right. Jo, I'm just saying, Chill, Joel Embiid did something that Jason Tatum and Scotty Barnes didn't do though. He got his out the first round.

Joel Embiid did do that 100%. He did. He absolutely did. And I think that it was admirable. No doubt. And again, that's part of that's part of the 25-26 that's part of the 25-26 season. That is admirable. But again, how did we get to the playoffs? Joel Embiid didn't play a lot of the regular season. A lot of the regular season, us getting to the playoffs had to do with Maxey and V.J. Edkim and all of those other guys and Andre Drummond getting to the playoffs. I know that sounds crazy about about a backup five cuz he started a lot of those minutes with with with Joel Embiid being out of the lineup. So, I think that I think that a lot of those guys, Joel Embiid barely played half the season, which means that a lot of those other guys carried the lion share of the regular season in order for us to get out of the first round.

Yeah, and then.

They won, they won 24 of their 45 with Joel. They went way below 500. Well, I think they went 21 and 23 without him and 24 and 14 with him. So, he still had his imprint on them making the playoffs. And then obviously what he did to get them past Boston.

Now, did he have more of an imprint on on on them making the playoffs?

Then? That's what I'm talking about. And I, I think that's where I'm, that's where I'm going with this. Like Greek go, like Greek go, and he's saying better player. Better player in 26. So you pay attention. Greek goat. Better play. Better player in the 2026 season. Everything that this player did in 2026 from October the 20th up until the end of the season. Not, not, not skill for skill. Not cuz this dude is nicer with the peel. Not because this dude is great getting downhill. Not that. It's a combination of all of these things in the 2026 se, 2025-26 season. So you pay attention.

Damn. Lined your ass up. All right. Well, um, we are, we're trying to buy some time and wait for Swiper, but we kind of know like who he's gonna go with. So I think we could just proceed and we could just already give that one guy a vote in place of Swiper.

Duniper has just like, just like I'm not going to assume Ryan that you and Damo are going to have Paul George ahead of OG Anunoby.

Why are we having Paul George, OG conversations right now?

First of all, top 25. We talking about top 25 players. Neither one of them gonna be here. So what are we talking about? Wait, so Brunson can get the championship tax into the top five, but OG can't get nothing into the top 20?

Who said Brunson's getting. You know what? Let's, let's get.

Wow. So, so Jaylen Brunson gets a boost. OG just.

Who's giving him a boost? I'm sorry.

There's a, there's a Mexican above you who's giving him the boost.

My migo up top.

But all right, let's get it.

Real quick though, Ron. Domo, just so you know, Ox is never getting off that. We're going to have a conversation in two years. He's still going to be on that. Ron, Ox is never getting off the Paul George. He's never getting off the Paul George, OG and no thing. We going, we going to have this conversation.

And Chill, guess what? And Chill, guess what? Guess what? And he's going to hate me cuz in two years from now when I hit him with the, "You put Paul George in place of OG," hate me.

Hey, okay, Mar. Mar, run making all that noise, right? Run, after making all that noise. If he don't show OG, OG some, uh, some, some real love in this list, guess who I'm calling on him?

Uh oh.

You going to run stopper?

Calling Debo on his ass.

That's all good. Mar, we right here.

I'm completely lost. I have no clue what's going on. But.

That wool will be going up.

[ __ ] I'll be right back. [ __ ] that. Uh, Swiper and Swiper was on that yesterday.

The same [ __ ] I go put on my red hat quick. I ain't going nowhere.

Hey, did you see that? Did you see Make America? Did you hear? Did you swipe on that red hat yesterday?

We got him. We got him clipped up. Clips dropping.

The way them shut the builder. People be in his comments. I'm not surprised. He turned me. I'd be sick of my men looking like that, too.

He was up to. I'm not going to lie. Stop chimping out.

You, you gave me, you gave me six months. Y'all give me six months. I'm buying Self-Made. I'm buying Players Choice. I'm, I might buy a House of Highlights. You know how much money I could make? Do think about it. The way we do this, we did six months.

We do, we do six months of grifting. Six months of grifting. I'm not going to lie to you, bro. Let's do it.

Hey, you was running. You was running, mate. Do ahead. Y'all, y'all go ahead and tackle this.

Swipe it. Hey, do it for us.

Swipe. I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you that paperwork, brother. We got a mean evaluation for you.

Damo says yourself.

Nah, do go get involved.

Not involved.

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

I'm telling you, we already, we could like, we can do Ox Court for real, but like what it will be is is now be it be Ox and Swiper. This is how you got your should be Ox and Swiper and we take all issues to court but like basically blaming the black community for its own destruction and dysfunction, right? And then basically we just highlight black-on-black crime consistently. What else we got to get into, Domo? How the UFC is the best sport in the world.

First of all, first of all, let's not act like we're too far removed from the last guy that tried this having public forums blaming the black community for things. Let's not act like. So, let's not. I, again, let me just say on camera, I don't want no parts of this because I've watched in real time what happens to people that want to hold public forum talking about.

I think that's a good point.

Without gun violence, am I right? Yeah. But no, I'm good.

That's a good point, D. So.

I mean, if you, if you've been, if you ever been around the graveyard, if you ever been around the graveyard shift, you know, I, I, you know, I do think some of those things might be true, Swiper.

I'm sure you do. Ox, you, he, now Ox, you believe half the stuff you say, but Ox will dead just do it. Just say stuff to say stuff, too. So, I learned to ignore Ox. Like, as much as I love Ox. And look, he's a big tree in real life, but he's really small when it comes to, you know, when you're on camera, like, I don't, he ain't really got that much gravity. So when I see him comment on stuff, Domo, I'll literally just be like, I'm not even, I'm not even thinking about what he's saying.

This dude sucks, yo.

On June 20th.

Of all days, on June. We be doing this, do we?

Yo, speaking of the internet, because I let the world into my life last night. Y'all see how my son did me? Ron, if you don't come, Ron, if you don't come, Ron, if you don't come get this little [ __ ].

What are you doing?

Sound like somebody about to get their ass whooped out. Sound like.

Oh man.

That's what gave his mama my password when I was at the gym.

Somebody about to get their ass whooped, bro.

Hey, no. Hey, look. I, hey, Chill.

I don't even know. I don't even know how like this. Chill. I would have handed my phone over. I ain't got no secrets. I.

I don't got no problem either. That ain't the point.

Yeah, that's not the point. Swiping like everything, everything still good. Like, you know what I'm saying? Wasn't wasn't all that, but still, I'm just like, bro.

She ain't looking. Yeah, she just building that Rico right now.

Hey, that Rico just getting built. Hey, she got a whole war room. You know when they in the detective movies where they got the things and the strings put connected to each other.

If they, if they, if, if Ron got his, got his phone handed over, the first name she going to see in the message section and she Fred Fred the Dominican is going to be the first name up top.

It's gonna be Fred the Dominican.

No, this, it's, no, we, we, it's telling you right now. We beefing for life. It's the half of McCoys now. Every time I see this little.

Yeah. No, absolutely. Nobody got.

Hey, and wait till I turn over this last little piece of evidence. You're cooked.

It's generational. It's generational beef. Yeah.

You better take this jersey. But anyways, y'all, let's go ahead and get into it.

We already know you'll sell him up the river. That's supposed to be your man. And we already know you'll sell him up the river. We already know that.

He'll sell you for a Big Mac, obviously. I only got one man right now. That's Jaylen Brunson. But let's go ahead and get into it, y'all. Top 25 players in the NBA. Swiping. We was waiting for you to get here, chat. We need you guys to keep us on our toes. If we're missing a name or if there's a name that should be in and around that area, I need you guys to spam it and let us know who you guys believe should be where, when they should be there, and why they should be there. But let's get into it, y'all. Who was the best player in 2026? Mars, kick us off. Is.

This a. So, this is a pre, like a based on last year or going forward? This is B. No, this is season based on this season.

Playoffs. Playoffs included, Swiper.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Got it.

Playoffs included. Okay.

Okay. Playoffs included. Okay.

You know why I had to include playoffs?

I'm, I'm going to go with Wimby. I'm going to go with Wimby.

Mhm.

Why do you like Wimby, Miles? What did Wimby, what, what did Wimby do to to make you say Wimby was the best player in 25-26 top?

Because I've been saying since January, I think he's played better than everyone on the whole. Um, and when you factor in the playoffs into that, like Shay was my MVP because I still think he had the better regular season because WBY did a lot of his groundwork in the second half.

Whereas Shay kind of already had built up his portfolio.

Mhm.

But factoring in the playoffs as well, where I think WBY was once again the best player in the playoffs, where now that means he had six months where I think he was the best performing player in the league in a nine-month season.

So that probably won't go with him. But with that, with him, with Wimby getting busy in the postseason like he did, with his slow start getting negated by what he did in the playoffs.

It was only slow compared to Shay and Jokic. He was still like playing at a top three, four level.

That's what I'm saying.

So like, that's why it was still close come the end of the season cuz it's not like he came out of nowhere like no difference.

He had that Maverick game, remember, early in the season too.

Yeah, I mean, the first game of the season, he came out wrong. Oh my god, he's going to be the best player of all time. But like, it's not like he came out like.

Give me a random like All-NBA caliber name. Like, it's not like he came out like that guy and then just ascended into, oh, he's been the best for the last three months. It's like, no, he's been playing at an All-NBA first team level and now the second half of the season, he's been playing at an all-time level. Yeah, I'm gonna.

I'm going to give him this, the slight edge over Shay, who is my number two. All right, Domo, talk to us. Who you got? Oh.

This is easy. Uh, who Mars had it right. I'm not coming off. I'm not coming off my my stance. I've been saying this all year. I'm going to keep saying it. He's the best thing I've seen touch of basketball ever in my life. My 29 years on this planet. He's the best thing I've ever seen touch of basketball. The defensive impact combined with the three-level scoring ability, everything he's able to do on offense, given the opportunity to give it because now Miss Johnson's a terrorist. We not going to talk about, um, given everything, given everything he's able to do. Give me one.

Um, you're 29 years old. So you were born in 90, that 90, 96, 97.

97.

Okay.

Oh, okay. All right. Did you, did you not have TV in 2009? He did have TV in 2009.

Yes, he did.

Yeah, I did.

My bra.

Or 2012. You didn't have television.

Yes, he did.

I did. I had no. He was on a sabbatical. Y'all know this. This is very, very, like, you know, he was out like on a missionary for a large part of his life. So I don't know if he had access to a television or not. Like.

He was on a mission. He was building homes in Haiti.

Uh, 12 years old.

This is why we never get through the list by the way. Like.

By the way, you, this is, this is you.

By the way. Mhm.

We out here talking about missionary in Haiti at 12 years old.

We going to talk about you and your country here in a little bit when we get to the World Cup. Go ahead. Go ahead. Get the World Cup. We're trying to get through the list.

Yes, sir.

Swiper, since you hijacked the conversation, would love to hear who you have number one.

I think Wimby. Yeah, I'm good. Wimby? Yeah. January 1st. Really? January 1st. Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Again, now if Jokic never for that knee injury, probably not the same story. I'm not going to lie to. He was going on a historic pace, but like, yeah, I think when we beat January 1st, I'm perfectly fine with that. That's a great.

All right. Uh, Ox, you're huffing and puffing. I got to know what's what's going on.

That's why.

What's going on in that bird cage?

Hey, tell him that when the whistle, when the wind blows.

Quiet, Swiper. Pipe down. How about that? Pipe down, Swiper. As you were saying, Ox. [ __ ] I got, I got SGA. Go ahead, Chill.

Cool. Good answer.

Just that.

What's the issue? Ox, I don't. The look on your face is.

Get through the list. He disagrees with Wimby. We know he disagrees with Wimby. See, Ron told us in the group, "Hey, we're going to get through the top 10 names in the first 30 minutes so we can focus on the 25."

Let's do it.

Let's do it. He can't do that and get mad at me and then go on his rant. Like.

No, but your.

I just want a simple. No, I just want a simple explanation. Like, why? The same way Chill asked Mars, why do you have Wim?

How many times has he told us that Wimby isn't the best player in the world to him? How many times?

But you know, you're right to explain to people that we want to move one.

All right.

I just don't got Wim.

All right, I got SGA. Chill. Who you got?

I got SGA from wire to wire. I thought that he was the best player in the league. Um, I thought he was the most consistent.

His playoffs included.

Quiet.

That's why he gets called a hater of SGA. By the way, you see that look he just did? Disgusting.

As I was saying, Domo, I apologize for being really interrupted. I thought that from wire to wire, I thought that he was the most consistent. I thought that he did it when it mattered the most in the regular season. I thought that a lot of the stuff in the playoffs got a little bit overblown because, you know, they had won a bunch of games going away, so he didn't really play much. So, um, I just think it's SGA. I thought he was the best player in the league in 25-26. SGA had three bad playoff games and this is what y'all get. This is what he didn't.

Okay. Yeah, I disagree with that statement.

We didn't add ethicalness into the criteria, did we? Crazy. I didn't think about that.

He had a bad play.

Yes, he did.

He didn't play against the Lakers and he wasn't great. He had a bad game one against Phoenix. He had a bad game one against the Lakers. He also wasn't great in game two or three against. He was good in game four.

And then he had three bad games against the Spurs. So that's one, two, at least five. That's.

Because everybody knows I did not watch the Phoenix series. So there's that.

He was cooking the last three games.

At least five bad playoff games. At least five. That's me saying game one against the Lakers because game one against Phoenix and three against the Spurs and then game two and three against the Lakers because you can have your own opinion. So at least five.

All right. Well, Wimby takes the top spot on the list. Let's run it back, fellas, at two. Chill. You guys staying with SGA?

Sticking with SGA. Yes, sir.

Staying on.

Okay. Mars got SGA.

Mhm.

I can't believe we're drinking this cool ass.

Oh, I mean, it's already three, so I assume we going to put him two. I got Cade. So.

K is that.

Cuz Swipe has your kid.

K's coming. K's coming.

Yeah, it's.

Absolutely.

You have Y, Swipe.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good with that. That's.

Okay. I just, I just want you guys to know right now already.

Brunson has entered the conversation for me.

I'm sure. So.

You think he's better than? He thinks he's better. You think he better than Luka last year?

No. No, it's not. Yeah. Yeah. When you include the playoffs. Yes.

One of them played in the playoffs at all. So, I mean, I guess. I mean, I still disagree, but I guess.

Whatever. All right, let's get to four cuz three.

Shout out to Kade and Brunson for uh coming into the conversation.

Whoa. Whoa. What happened? What did we just say?

I have your kids three. Swip. That's two. What's going on?

What's happening? Okay. Let me. Yeah. Chill. Let me make, make up an argument real quick. Chill. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm not going to make up an argument. I thought I. I think it's Joker. Yes. I 100%.

Oh, you got Joker, too.

I think it's Joker.

That's three.

Y'all know what to do. Come on.

We got to do that. Let's do it.

I got Luka here. I'm sorry. I can't. I can't do that.

Yeah, I got Cade here. So.

I would like to conspire to get to get Joker off.

I got to be. I got to be ethical.

Shouts. Yeah. Shouts, shouts, shouts.

Because I thought playoffs, I thought playoffs counted. Since playoffs don't count, then it's.

They do.

Over.

They do.

Didn't play in the playoffs.

Joker didn't play in the playoffs.

Oh, no, he didn't.

That was Nola. That was Nola. I ain't seen no Joker.

That was just Nola out there.

Hey, Mar. You know how it go. Sometimes you better off. How we said about De'Aaron Fox? Sometimes you better off just not playing at all.

Yeah, it helps. It helps your PR a lot more to not play in the playoffs because then you have no bad games. Helps you. It helps you.

Back up. Hey, in the October Ox, it's on your head, bro. Let's keep going. Number four.

But what happens in October onwards has nothing to do with this past season.

No, no, that's cool. That's cool. I know. I know. I'm not talking. I'm not talking to you either, Tardox.

That [ __ ] can't. I told y'all before and I proved it and and Pin even went to the numbers and found out I was cooking the Joker. Joker ain't [ __ ] without Aaron Gordon. So.

Jokic came third, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we got Wimby first, SGA two, Jokic three. Who is number four? D, talk to me a little bit more about Kade because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sitting down.

Really not mad at K. Um.

In my mind, in my mind, my new philosophy going into the next season is you can't be a top five player if you're lackluster on defense. Um, that's just simply how I'm going about it. Uh, Kade has ascended to the player I've always known he could be and envision him to be. Uh, definitely need somebody to put him at a two and not the one, but that's just me being biased. Other than that, um, he's just flat out phenomenal. The thing I think I told you this on TikTok one morning. Everything that I got from Anthony Edwards that year he went up against the year he was the legend killer. I want to say he beat KD, he beat was.

24 that year where it was just like, oh no, A has arrived. He's here. He's here. That's the same feeling I got watching K this year in the playoffs.

However many comebacks he needed to have, however many times it was looking like, who's going to score for the for the Pistons? They have no offense and he was just the offense. He just made it happen. Give me the ball, I'm gonna do work. I, I haven't seen that since Anthony Edwards. He's East Conference Anthony Edwards. I love it.

I had a great, and he had a great playoffs for sure.

He had a great comeback in the playoffs, too. Yeah, I, I could get with that. And.

Some of going down here.

Yeah, he did. He did do that. Now, do you, you, I'm, I'm, I'm sitting at the table, I'm listening. And I think that you, you cooking with the fact that I mean, Detroit was, they ended up with 60 wins. Other side of that is in the regular season, he did have a almost 20 and 10 all-pro with him that was running with him who sucked in the playoffs, right? That, so that didn't help. He sucked in the playoffs, but that did help Cade. But on the other side of that, that goes back to my original logic when you talking about defense that you just have exceptional guys on offense and I think Luka was just exceptional this season as an offensive player. I don't think that there was plenty. I don't think that there were many guys who were better offensively than he was. I, I think that I was getting on a on a Tuesday, I was getting 34, 8 and 8 on a Tuesday night. And I mean, as a one-on-one player, I think that I got back to that level of being in the, not being in the conversation, but I think he got closer back. I, I still think it's Shay, but I think he got closer back closer to being the best one-on-one player, be the best bucket getter in the game.

Who?

Luka. I think I, I think he got closer to being the best bucket getter back closer to get being the best bucket getter in the game. Um, and from a consistency standpoint, I just thought that he was fantastic as an offensive player, and I value that over defense when you're exceptional. That's why I talk about guys like Luka and Steph and, uh, Joker the way I do because they're just exceptional on offense. So, I'm going to go with Luka here. But, you, I think you made a compelling argument about Kade. Uh, uh, Domo.

All right. So we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luka.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luka, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much as I was as much as I possibly could. I watched a bunch of Clipper games this year and I just think that the fluidity of his bucket getting, I mean, his ability to play make, how much he impacted the game this season playing on that Clipper team considering what ended up happening and how they started. I just thought that he was, I thought that he played at a top five level and I didn't get Leonard defensively like I got in 21, but I did get a guy who could defend. Still. I still got a guy who could defend. So I'm going to go with Leonard at five.

All right, we got one for Kawhi. I have two for Kawhi.

Well, in the spirit, I gotta go with Kade.

Yeah, in the spirit of consistency. Uh.

Well, I think was better than Giannis last year. I think available players, I think he finished first team All-NBA for me, but I don't actually know if he was better than Giannis last season. Um, but I.

Mean, he played 30 more games than your.

I know that's why I'm, you know, evaluating. Um.

That's two months. But then K, but then Kade, but Kade also had the playoff run.

Kade played 64 games in the regular season plus 14 games in the postseason.

14. Yeah, he played 78. So he played 13 more games. No, four, 12 more games on K cuz played the playing game.

Which I count.

Yeah, I'm fine. You know what, Oxman, what you, I'll give it to Kade because I, I thought he was the best player in the playoffs, maybe in the first round, maybe. Um, him or Scotty and then, um, Wimby obviously was really good as well. Um, but I, I'll go with Kade cuz I thought Kade in that Magic series, um, even though they would have been out if Fron would have been healthy, I think he showed up really well in the first two rounds to the playoffs. Uh, so I'll give it to him.

Domo, you're sticking with Kade.

Absolutely.

All right, so we got a K, we got a Luca, we got a Brunson. Swiper.

Luca.

Big Ox.

I know that Ox got a Ox wheels is turning cuz I know how you feel about Luka.

Mhm.

I'm waiting for Ox to say the name. I'm surprised he hasn't said.

It's pointless.

No, it's not pointless. No, it's not. That's, that's because to be honest with you, Ox.

I don't do. I don't do this with y'all no more. I don't.

I don't just, I don't just vote for my, for the guys I know are better than guys that you pretend are better than the guys I know that are.

I'm going to be there. I'm, I'm.

This for me between Kawhi and Luka right now.

Yeah, I agree.

I do feel that with Kawhi, but my my only thing is like, I, I feel, I feel, um, like the last vote that I voted for Luka was wrong. I wish I could take that back because I think I have to, I have to, I have to vote for Kade before I vote for both of those guys. Like, I, I have to put, because of the playoff rental. Like I think at the end of the season, if, if it was just the end of the season, I would probably have Kawhi here, Kade and Luka right there. But what Kade did in the playoffs and both of these dudes didn't do anything in the playoffs. Clearly.

I, I gotta go with Kade right here. And then I'mma get to Kawhi and Jaylen and those guys, you know. So.

So that's two for K, two for Luca, and one for Brunson.

Mhm. Come on, Mars, do the right thing.

I could, I, yeah, I could make it a three-way tie. Um, no. I, I think just for everyone to, so everyone's on the same page with what I'm thinking. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer this season.

But I'm not going to vote for him.

Like peak-wise, like level of play-wise.

Yeah. The just the level of play.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's, that's all I'm looking at. I think Giannis was the fourth best performer, but he played 10 minutes. So, um, then it for me is between Kawhi and Luka. Um, so I'll go with Luka cuz Kawhi doesn't have any others. So I'll go with Luka.

All right, Luka Doncic, coming in at four. We got Wimby, SGA, Jokic, Luka. Um, which all those guys are deserving. We like this top four. It is debatable, but it's really undebatable. So salute to this top four. But at five, who are we rocking with? Y'all. Chill. I'mma start with you.

Leonard. Um, I just think that Leonard was fantastic.

Yeah, I, I thought that.

I thought Leonard was fantastic this season. Ox was pushing the Leonard propaganda and I was paying attention to him as much

Kate Cunningham coming in at five. Shout out K, man.

K Cunningham at five. Okay. All right.

Shout out to you, K. Gota.

I mean that he makes it. Just that's my.

I think the thing do that that gets overlooked. I mean, they were the number one seed in the East. That was a that's a big deal, yo. This is a team that was. They didn't make the but they made the playoffs. But the fact that I mean, they were so much better and it was largely due to him and a lot of the stuff that he was doing. I could get with that. I could I don't hate it.

This is why I told you.

Regular season, it was clearly Kawhi for me. I think the playoffs though, like his his shot-making, the defense, his his playmaking, the ball-handling, the burden that he had to deal with and that he was doing it the way he was. And he's like, I said, he was shooting 43% from three, I believe, as well for the majority of the runs. So, can I use?

In the playoffs while still playing defense, team?

He was by far the best guard, like guard superstar defender in the playoffs. Like, other than like, I thought you said Kawhi. Okay.

No. Yeah, my bad.

I'm following you. Sure. Yep.

Yeah.

And it didn't help neither, Ron, that Ivy went out because he was the one that was supposed to step in and be that other ball-handler. He was supposed to supplement as a ball-handler and a bucket getter. You know, before he broke his leg, he was what, 17, almost 18 a game. And that was supposed to continue this next season. But that was that was unfortunate.

AJ.

Yeah. We didn't realize he was losing screws that whole time.

Man.

Man. Major injuries will do that to you, man.

Sometimes.

All right. So, we got Kawhi six.

I have I have Kawhi. Yeah, I have Kawhi to the mix.

All right. We got Wimby at one, SJ at two, Yic at three, Luca at four, Kate at five. Um, we have how many for Kawhi right now?

Four. Four.

I'm say I'll go here.

Bob Kawhi's on snips.

We got a Kawhi sweep.

This the thing.

Kawhi Leonard at points this year was absolutely the best player in the world.

Absolutely.

We could have a conversation about.

Whatever, whatever that day, whatever that day is. He scored 45 points. I believe he was the best player in the world that day.

We have he had stretches. He had weeks at a time. He was the best player in the world. I do think he was the best player in the NBA getting paid under the table. That does that does track.

That was going on too.

Facts.

Yes, absolutely. Even though even though even though he wasn't the only player in the NBA getting paid under the table because that's a com because that's a common practice in the NBA. He was the best of them as well. Yes, he was the best one to get.

He was he was the he was the best basketball player with braids in the NBA too. You know.

Who else had braids?

No, he wasn't. I don't know.

No, he No, he wasn't. Jamie Green catcher strays. Damn, Mars.

Shay got braids, don't he?

I think Shay has braids.

We we was hurt this year as well.

Yeah. Yeah. And I I think Kawhi Leonard was the best player in the.

Said he was the best number two in the league, too.

You know what? I don't think.

I I just want to say the only player that I questioned.

Being better than Kawhi this year besides Giannis, of course, is Jaylen Brown. All right. Number seven. And um, I I'm still I'm I'm still going to vote for Kawhi right now. But.

Cool. Nice W.

Swiper. Swiper. Zip your freaking lips.

That's two people telling you to shut the hell up. Swiper.

Doesn't bother me. Moving on.

Cruising. Hey Swiper, you cruising for bruising. I know your granny's tell.

Pull up on the train. Meet us on the train. Matter.

Of fact, it was the three of y'all that jumped me. That's.

Yeah, meet us on the train.

I didn't have to jump you.

You did? What are you talking about? Oh, I did not have to jump.

You. Never mind. I'm with you.

Chill had you hemmed up. I just wanted to sneak in.

There is no himm up. I was standing next to you, clown. Go ahead.

As you saying, as you were saying, Moss, as you were saying, sir.

Kai can't Kai came right.

Of course he did.

All right, well, at seven, we got names like Yiannis still out there.

Ron, we ain't putting out no names cuz what we don't want to do is we don't want to influence decisions.

Y'all might forget about somebody. I just want to let you guys know who's lurking around. You know, it's that that happens quite often. You know.

Zachary.

Ron, I got I got Jaylen Brown to these guys get their head out their ass.

All right, cool. Ask me no more.

I'm not going to be Jaylen.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I'm not going to be saying Jay.

I got Giannis on the Koopo right here.

Giannis.

Giannis is eligible.

If we're if we're doing Giannis thing, we need to put him in his rightful position at number one.

Sure. Sure. Sure. I got Giannis on Koopo 7. That's why Yeah, that's why I said it's weird because I do think he was the fourth best, but.

I think.

I know I'm not tripping right now. So, we're just all going to act like we didn't just see what we seen last week.

Yeah, cool.

What did we see last week? What happened last week?

He wants us to say Jaylen Brunson.

You right. Olivia Miles was cooking last week was crazy.

Ron, did Jaylen Brunson have a Did Jaylen Brunson have a better regular season than Jaylen Brown? He I mean, he was second team All-NBA, but no, no, no, Jaylen, he was first team.

No, no, no. Jaylen Brown was second team. Jaylen Brown was second team too.

Here's the thing though. I do think Jaylen Brown had a better regular season than Jaylen Brunson.

Sure.

Once again, they're both second team All-NBA. That's how the voters voted it. I think Jaylen Brunson edged him. But the playoffs isn't even a discussion. It's it's literally not a discussion. And once again, I played the most games in the playoffs and averaged the most points in the playoffs.

Okay, fair. That is fair.

Yeah, that [ __ ] cute.

I'm fine. I I have Jaylen Brunson over Jaylen Brown. I'm just not considering Jaylen Brown a seventh. So.

Yeah, I just don't got neither one of them right here.

Yeah, I'm just Yeah. So like Yeah, cool. I I'm fine with that. I just.

All right. So we we got a Jaylen Brown below me. We got a Jaylen Brown with me. Who else do we got, fellas? Jaylen.

I mean Jaylen Brunson. My bad. Jaylen Brunson.

Anthony Edwards. Okay, we got a right here.

Okay. Uh, yeah.

Why you What's the What's the ant? What's the difference?

This was This was not a great ant year. It wasn't.

Year's better than Dylan Brown.

I mean.

Has he had better seasons? You know, you know, you remember what I said about last year.

You got her around February more.

Yeah. You think you remember what I said about ant last year? Just it wasn't it wasn't the ant season and the defense was bad all season and I think he ran into some issues this year but like it's still like you know Giannis maybe it's because the games played that we're we're doing this which is fair which is fair.

We said before I say beforehand, we said like guys who didn't qualify for certain amount of games, we're just not going to vote for it. Weird. Yeah, at all.

Yeah, I'd rather not have Giannis on the list than have him at a person.

I thought we agreed to say not at all. I wasn't sure but I force. Yeah, once I gave him his hours of I think Giannis has been the fourth best player in the league, but then I voted for Luca. That was me saying I'm not going to put Giannis on the list.

Sure.

Cuz I'm not I'm not about to have him at 12. I'm just not.

Well, then if we're doing that, then uh somebody beat a team to me chat, but I think Kevin Durant then deserves a conversation right here.

I agree. I think KD deserves a conversation and those are probably the two I'm thinking of to be honest.

I don't think KD had a better season than Jaylen Brown. I don't.

You don't think he had a better season than Jaylen Johnson? We know that. That's fine.

You already know how I feel about He he didn't play better than none of the Jaylens.

Yeah, I don't think but but specifically But specifically Jaylen Brown, I mean, we were we were having a legit conversation about Jaylen Brown.

We were having we were having we were having a real conversation about Jaylen Brown being the best two-way player in the game. But.

I think that.

You guys had that conversation. I remember that.

We we we were having that conversation. And and I think that what we got what we got screwed up with was the fact that Jaylen Brunson Jaylen Brunson, I'm sorry. Jaylen Brown thrived in the system in Boston, but the operative word here is thrived, but he was a better defender than Kevin Durant. We went through this already.

We still got busy.

He 100%.

I think when we did the list, I had KD as a better two-way.

Yeah, we did. We did everything. We did all the numbers and everything. He wasn't a better scorer. He wasn't a better scorer or defender.

That's why we disagree. I I just think KD's better than him.

Um, I think KD is no better than you. For some reason, Joe, you don't like Kevin Durant. No, that's not true. I do like Kevin Durant. I just don't remember us having a conversation about Kevin Durant and Jaylen Brown. I do remember.

You just don't like Jaylen Brown.

I like Jaylen Brown. He's a great person.

That's why that's why that's why you get all that's why you get all uptight and and sweating and getting all every time somebody right now.

Did Jaylen Brown do something in Atlanta that we need to know about?

Move on. Move on. Move on.

When I when I do something that was against Ron, when I sent Ron my list of two-way players, I had Kevin Durant above Jaden Brown. I had to.

And and so remind me again like what did Kevin what KD what did KD do more than Jaylen Brown on defense so I'm clear? I just want to make sure that I'm following you guys.

Oh, I think Jaylen Brown was like actually just.

But um, I think Kevin I think Kevin Durant's room protection was more valuable actually. Um, I think he I think he fell asleep way less than Jaylen Brown did on defense. I think I'm not going to say his motor was higher because Kevin Durant actually just doesn't do a whole lot on defense. He just makes his timely rotations, protects the rim, does all of that stuff.

Um.

Wouldn't that matter though with my motor being higher? So, with my motor being higher?

I mean, it matters if you're making an impact. If it matters that JB didn't take that assignment on.

I think I think Jaylen Brown had a I think what Jaylen Brown I think what Jaylen Brown did well is he got up for marquee matchups which.

Exactly, which Boston people will tell you that's exactly what it was. He was kind of night and night out for the marquee matchups. That's fine. The issue is 82 games aren't all marquee matchups. So if I'm watching him have if I'm watching them guard SGA for a quarter or a half and I like, oh yeah, amazing defense and then I watch him go for the next three games of no marquee matchups, do nothing on defense. I don't view that as, oh, Jaylen Brown was good on defense this week. It's like, no, he had a good defensive game.

He got up for this matchup and then for the rest of the games he just decided to do nothing on defense. And that kind of was the season of Jaylen Brown on defense in my opinion. Now, there might be some Boston fans who disagree with me who watch more Boston than me. There might be some Boston fans who agree with me who watch more Boston than me. I'm not saying I'm right. What I'm saying is this is how I viewed Jaylen Brown's defense this year. Also, I think KD is like clearly better offensively as well. So, for me, Kevin Durant was better than Jaylen Brown. But I'm once again, I'm not considering Jaylen Brown here. It's between Kevin Durant and Anthony Edwards in my opinion.

Sure.

Um.

My counter to I think that's a fair that's a fair argument, Mars. My counter to that is I think that in the system that he was in, I think that Jaylen I think that Jaylen Brown thrived in that system. I feel like the fact that coach Missoula dumbed down a lot of his offensive responsibility which would which enabled him to thrive, made him less of a ball handler, made him more of a mid-range shooter, made him less of a made made him less of a passer. So the passes that he was making, he was able to get guys the basketball in space where they can be effective. Made him more of a transition player. He's one of the better transition players in the game. I think in terms of a def in terms of a defensive player, I think he navigated screens way better than than than a lot of guys that we give credit to. I think one-on-one, I think that he did m I think he did a much better job one-on-one as a defender against the marquee guys than than people give than people give him credit for. And with all of that being said, I think that he was I feel like he was much more consistent in his overall play this season than Kevin Durant was. That's why I think there's just no way I say that though. There's no way. But I'm saying the issue is we did this 3 months ago. There there's no.

And we're doing it today. We're doing it. Chill. But you you refuse to listen to all of the information that we provided, which is the offensive numbers with the shooting numbers, which is the scoring numbers, the personnel he played with. He played with a disadvantaged offensive situation. Still was a better off. Kevin Durant played with a better Thompson. Kevin Durant played with a Men Thompson. A Men Thompson I think is better than Derek White as a defender.

No, I'm talking about his offense. We just said the offensive team that he has around him. He is He's in a much worse offensive situation instead a better offensive season.

Nobody's arguing. So this is what you're arguing. You're arguing that Kevin Durant is a better bucket getter and a better offensive player.

No, we're just talking about the season. Chill. Chill. Focus on the season. You go you're going years before that. Just this season.

But yes, Kevin Durant is a better offensive player than Dana Brown.

He is a better off I'm not going to lie. And I think here's the.

In my opinion. Yes. That's what I'm saying. In my opinion, I lied to Mars. I'm I'm 100% with you on that. And I think that I think that.

Well, fellas, um, we are at number seven and we have to vote on somebody. So I have one for Anthony Edwards, one for Jaylen Brown, one for Brunson. Swiper, Mars, Chill. Who do you guys got here?

I got Jaylen Brown. Swiper. Yeah, Kevin Durant. Who did Domo have?

Domo had uh Anthony Edwards.

Oh, we're still on this part. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. So, we got and two Jaylen Browns. So, I either I can tie it up with an or with Jaylen Brown with or Kevin.

Yeah, I'll go with.

No, I'm trying to think strategically because if I pick Kevin Durant, if I pick Ant now and next round it's a tiebreaker between KD and Jaylen Brown, Jaylen Brown will win cuz Ronald will decide to pick Jaylen Brown.

I'm going go with a hand. I'm gonna go with I'm go with a hand.

So, we got Ant with two, Jaylen Brown with two. Um, here's the thing is I can't run polls. You know, my uh my contraption that I'm on right now, it's not really.

Got you and Swiper and and Jaylen Brown.

Swiper, who you got?

Um, Ant. Yeah, I'll go Ant.

God damn. Well, y'all know I got Jaylen Brown.

Um.

Just put Jaylen Brown in just so we can move on. Yeah, because one played more games, you know. No.

Because just just Jaylen Brown because I don't want to argue about this anymore. I'm tired of arguing about this.

So they continue to just put it. You're right. Just continue to put Ant. He don't want to argue no more.

No, it doesn't matter. They're going to be slot seven and eight. And then.

You know what? You know what? Is is real talk a fair person to ask right here? He's a fair person to break the tie between Durant and Jaylen Brown. I mean I mean I would assume he's biased towards an.

All right. What about Jordan? What about Drench? He's actually coming on the episode here in a second.

Oh, well, if he's actually coming on, then yeah, we'll go with his vote. He's going to pick Jen Brown, but we'll go with his vote.

I'm going to call him. We'll see if he picks up.

Yeah.

Phone a drench.

K. He probably would have picked KD. He coming to the show.

But KD's not an option no more, unfortunate.

Yeah, I know. I know. That's.

Coming to the show.

Hey, Jordan.

Hold on.

You want Bissette right now? Well, you.

Hell no, [ __ ] I'm just bad [ __ ] crazy.

All right. I'm just trying to see I'm just trying to see where you at cuz I know you on the air. Can you tell him he's on air? Can you tell him?

I'm doing a show from my house.

Oh, all right. Hey, uh, we on a panel right now and and everybody could hear you. So, I just before after you answer that question, I wanted to let you know that.

But.

Oh, okay. No, I ain't going to be.

Yeah, for sure. I know that's where real talk at right now. But anyways, uh, we.

Got a couple dollars for it.

We we have a conundrum on the panel right now where we're we're we're stuck in a rock and a hard place. Uh, we're at the seventh best player in the NBA and we are tied between Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards and you are the one that gets to break the vote. Who played better this past season?

Who was better from from start to finish?

Uh, Jay Brown.

All right.

My [ __ ].

Yeah, that's it. Brown.

For sure. How How much longer do we have until you get on?

Probably like making an appearance in like 5 10 minutes.

10 minutes.

25 minutes. All right. So that means in camera set up right now.

All right, they can hear you in 10 minutes. They all gonna be standing up.

Yeah, get your ass up.

I'm not standing up.

All right, Drench. We'll catch you in a second. Appreciate you.

All right.

That [ __ ] lying. He for show this and that. All right. Well.

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Rob, real quick, who the doctor be playing?

Um, I honestly I don't know. I didn't need to look. I just know it's 15 and a half with Gabby Williams. That's That's a layup, you know. But no, they Oh, they play the links. Oh. Oh, she's playing against Olivia. Oh, damn. The best player in the NBA or WNBA. Ah, maybe she might not get that actually.

Ron, you are such a troll. I swear like you are the epitome of a troll.

Why am I?

Ron? Olivia Miles is not better than Asia Wilson. Stop the [ __ ].

Shut up. That's okay then. Now call do a troll. No. Yo, call do a troll.

Get theist. Yo.

You too. Do.

Not. She sat down and ate that girl lunch and then mocked her. Had the co say, "Yo, relax. Relax. Stop it." Olivia like that. And I knew that when she was.

A saying I ain't saying that she ain't like that. But here we are. This is what I'm talking about. Here we are. You know what? No, I'm not. We got to get.

Don't even entertain. We got We got to We got to get back to the.

Uh, did you already put the splashs uh pics in that we did?

Yes. He just.

He did automatic. You ain't see You ain't see how Kenny was looking.

Yeah, we got when when LIV GAVE IT THAT TO THE RIM. H TO THE RIM. Kennedy.

Like basketball is boxing.

She was looking She was looking.

She was looking She was looking in awe. She was looking like, Oh, pass the torch. Good. Let me stop. Let me stop trolling. Let me stop trolling.

Damn.

Don't get mad at me. Let me stop trolling.

We was all We was all like We We all do that. When anybody do we Oh [ __ ] Oh. Oh. But.

Nah, it's a It's different levels to it. It's different levels to it. But it's cool. I get it.

Why is Why is Olivia Why is Olivia better than Adrian? Like like.

Chill, please don't ask question. We we at number seven, we at number eight. I mean.

Yeah, we we already passed number seven, number eight. Yes, number eight.

N let me stop. We we could talk about why is Olivia dope.

She's dope. I'm down to do that. I'm 100% down to do that. Best player in the league, chill out, relax. Ain't going that far. No.

Yeah, I I'll say nine. Nine trolls obviously. I'm not going to call her better than the greatest women's basketball player I've ever seen. But nah, she's definitely in terms of rookie starts I've seen. And I'm a casual when it comes to WNBA basketball. Don't get me wrong. That [ __ ] fire. I ain't going to lie. She is she different.

Imagine somebody coming into the league and and Wim in the league eight years and he and he just gets busy like the first month. This dude might be nicer than Wendy.

Yeah. It's like.

If they might be nicer, they might be nicer.

If they nicer, they nicer. You know, you know how long then Kareem came in and everyone was like, "Oh [ __ ]

Give me that change."

KareP.

Well, not really, but sure. Shout out to Magic.

Magic came. He came in and stepped into them conversations. Top top 10, top five.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Top 10 for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Not no not best in the world cuz, you know, the best in the world was on his team.

But you know, and not even best rookie cuz, you know, that guy resided in Boston, but you know, salute to Magic Johnson came in a top 10 player.

Is she in top five conversations?

I mean, for for these for these first couple weeks of the WNBA season, sure. But all right, with all the sheet about her ability to keep it up. Is that what it is?

Um, oh, absolutely. I I just think, you know, I I think she's I think she's going to maintain being uh, you know, one of the better players. Absolutely. Like she's not going to fall off, but you know, it's it's going to even out eventually. Like she's it's going to tap her down a little bit, but that I mean, but that's that's just how that's how it goes. Like that's, you know, that's that's how that's how it go.

If it doesn't.

I I want to ask is if it doesn't.

You know.

Is her so far is her dominance so far a case of just being a rookie so they don't know exactly what to do to slow her down or.

Yeah, no, they they know. I mean, everybody everybody knows everybody knows who Olivia Miles is. Everybody's always known who Olivia Miles is for the past 3 years. You know what I'm saying? Everybody knows who she is and what she's capable of. But I do think like first of all, yeah, I think they're there's going to they're starting to scheme a little bit more for her. Like they're going to start doing certain things like, okay, you know, but also like Fee's going to be back in the.

Yeah, get y'all ass up. Get y'all ass. But she's she's nice though. She always she always going to be nice. Morris's like I'm I'm not saying I'm not even trying to like discredit any of that. She she will be nice. She always will be nice. But the numbers is what I'm saying. The numbers aren't going to always be this eye pop.

I mean, well, Fee is going to come back at some point, which is going to affect.

Right. And that's and that's what I'm saying.

But that but that doesn't make her a worse player is what I'm and that's what I'm saying. I don't I don't think she's going to be worse. I just think that the numbers are going to, you know, aren't always going to be like this. That's all. But.

Is Olivia better than Alicia? I think I think her assist go up though if there her her assists are going to go up by.

Ron, is she better than Alicia Gray today?

No.

Today? No way.

Ron, is she better than Alicia Gay?

No.

I'm too much of a casual to speak on this type of stuff.

Ron, is she better than Kelsey Mitchell today?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

She better slow down. She better slow down. Mhm.

See.

Slow down, Ron.

You come, you come to the W for two weeks, get busy, and now you're better than Kelsey Mitchell and and and Alicia. Alicia Gray, if you better, if you are, if you are, then yeah, but she's not.

Has she been playing better than enough? Just just has she been playing better than enough?

She's been getting busy.

The some of the numbers and some of the.

No, no, no. In your in your opinion, from what you've watched, has she been playing better than that?

She's had a few better games than a few of their games. I don't. But.

You're doing a swiper thing right now.

No, I'm not. You're not trying to answer the question.

I'm answering the question directly.

You hate when he do that, too.

There's been There's been 13 games.

Has she has she played better? Has she played better in some of those 13 than Alicia has in some of her 13?

On average, who would you say has been the better performer?

I I think Kelsey Mitchell. I think it goes Kelsey, Alicia. Of these three. And that's of these three. It goes Kelsey, Alicia, Olivia. Who's the Who's Who's the better player? Yeah, she better she better than Cub.

Courtney. Caitlyn.

Oh, Caitlyn Clark.

I thought you meant Courtney.

Cub. Where you get the dub from?

Caitlyn White.

She better than Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Y'all think she better?

Is she better? Is she better than Caitlyn Clark? Is she better than Caitlin Clark?

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Chill. Hold on. Chill. Y'all think she better than C. Y'all think she better than Courtney Courtney Williams?

Yeah. Yes.

I think she's better than Courtney.

Yeah. Courtney Courtney Courtney gave that up in preseason. She.

Think y'all would have did this when Candace's rookie year too and Maya's rookie year when they walked in the league? Do you think y'all would have been the same way?

Well, did this Candace Candace's.

Yeah, but I'm saying but you know what I mean. CC walked in the league, she was top five that year. And then Candace walked in, she was top one. Maya walked in, she was top three at that time. Like this is.

CC was what?

Yeah, she was top. No, no, but she was even double C.

That aside, she was one of the five employers. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. For sure.

I I I didn't watch enough to say anything.

Olivia Miles is the best point guard in the league.

Yeah, Olivia, she's been cooking though. Like, she's just been great. Like, and shout, you know, shout, real talk. You know, he's been the one big up in hering her a lot. Uh, and and obviously, you know, Ox obviously is a big WNBA fan. Uh, I've watched her more as the season's gone on.

She's very good.

Yeah, I felt obligated to watch Agie Faz.

She's hooping too, but like.

Man, Ezie F ain't on [ __ ] That's that's a clear flop at that number one joint. Just say that it's a flop at that.

She she she's a good player. This is what.

She a good player, just not number one. She shouldn't have went over B. She shouldn't have went over goddamn uh um Olivia. She couldn't win over none of them. Like she just not that like that's a flop at that number one.

And Drench even even after seeing what Olivia's doing, I still think Dallas should have took more in number one. I AIN'T MAD IF THEY shouldn't have took her number one. I can tell you that.

I'm not going to lie. And Olivia and Paige backcourt would be crazy.

Oh my god.

They didn't want that though. They didn't they didn't want that for whatever reason.

Yeah. You know what the reason is, but.

That that would be the best duo in the league right now.

Ron, that sound like Is that Jaylen Brunson and Jayen and Jaylen Brown at the one and the two? Is that what that is?

No, it's better than that.

Jaylen Brown.

Like shout out to Jaylen Brunson, too. Y'all know. Hey, I was ready to put Brunson two on this list. No, chill. That would.

Better than that.

Hell no.

That would be SGA and that damn be SGA and Luca.

No, it wouldn't be shall they be good though. They'd be good.

It's like Harper.

No, I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell y'all this though. Olivia tough. She do got a little glaring flaws a little bit though, especially with this.

I think I think you're going to see her in the pick and roll. She going to turn the ball over a lot when it come down to like in the playoffs. Want to get serious?

Yeah, I think she makes some decisions that's a little bit too late to be honest with you.

Serious now.

This [ __ ] this [ __ ] No, it's serious, but this [ __ ] about to heat up. Chill.

No, it's serious, but it's going to heat up. Like they going to get tape on.

Around when July when July come around. It's it's going to heat up like and that's not to say that she can't hang. Olivia Miles is still player, but this this like the W is it's heating up right now.

She make she makes some turnovers that look like a rookie, you know? She just they look like rookie mistakes sometimes. But.

She about to get real gutted. It just you know how it go. She coming in a W that you got to get tape on them for the first.

Couple weeks, couple games and [ __ ] like that.

And then it just get a little bit once they get them tendencies out the way.

But I will tell you who's having a career season right now. Um, and again, maybe that's cuz I'm in the city. But.

Uh, Sha Reese, she's been frying lately.

I don't know why [ __ ] thought Angel Reese wasn't going to do what she was going to do though. I don't know why.

You you know how she couldn't she couldn't she couldn't score her had bad PR for the last.

What you mean she couldn't score her rookie year?

No, she she couldn't finish her rookie year at all. She was historically bad, but like she's way better now. Like she's gotten a lot better.

I mean, like I said, like I said about the finish and [ __ ] honestly, it's a physical game. Like bro, they be fouling [ __ ] and they be fouling a lot like a lot of.

The shooting sub 40% was not good though. I'm saying she's gotten a lot better. Like disrespect to her. She's gotten a lot better. But regardless, she's a 20 and 10 player damn near like damn near in this league right now, which is crazy. She's insane. Great defensive player, too. She's having a really good season. The dream is cooking. Like.

Shout out to.

Yeah, I think this this playoff is going to be crazy. Like, I think this is going to be a lot like.

We're we're far away, but I think Yeah, it was. It was crazy.

Hey, chill.

Sir.

Tell these dudes they better lock in. All right, we not just up here. You You guys see this was a good conversation about the WNBA. We're not up here faking it. We don't We This is an NBA show. We don't get any anything from.

These dude. These [ __ ] dudes talking about go going on with lists and stuff like that. Yo, I don't know if you know this, but there's a women's professional basketball league going on in America. And these are [ __ ] ballers.

Damn good.

These chicks are awesome.

Oh, AND A CHILL. DO THIS. DO THIS. YOU do this one. It's a lot of [ __ ] in the chat that don't know basketball for real. Go watch basketball in its purest form. Go watch that [ __ ] It's ballers.

Bro, every time I watch a WNBA game.

I'm like a kid in a candy store.

Cuz I, you know, I make basketball content.

I have so many plays I can choose from that I want to talk about. I my my I GOT A [ __ ] FOUL JUST FULL OF [ __ ] OH [ __ ] THAT was a good one. Then the next play, that was a good one.

You You know how it is though. You got to really be like a basketball savant to fully appreciate it. It's almost It's almost like eating. It's a lot of people that can't eat a salad because.

You know, they they want a big fattening burger and all of that. The WNBA is pure.

Pure. It is it is you don't have to be a basketball savant. You just actually have to like basketball and not be a basketball or casual because when we remember before it's it's always like, "Oh, well, they can't dunk."

They don't got nothing to do. They don't got nothing.

What? They got dunk. We can't we can't make.

Well, you got a dunker here in Seattle.

Nothing they don't care about.

Yeah. Like what you said?

They can't dunk.

You can't You can't make people care about something they just don't care.

I agree. No, I agree. I agree.

I'm not I'm not trying to make them care. As long as I can watch it, I don't give a [ __ ].

No, I agree. But Mars, I think I think most people they adopt that mentality about the WNBA. Like I said, I've been saying this.

Yeah, they decided they don't like it before they've even watched it.

Before they watch it. Yes. Before they watch it.

Exist. Yeah. But.

I don't know if how physical the W is too. It's way it's too it's too physical sometimes. Like I think it's too physical. It's just like.

I do agree with.

You know, you know all last season I was saying it's a black air force league.

Yeah, that [ __ ] is crazy.

And they really be out there beefing WITH EACH OTHER TOO. EVERYTHING YOU GUYS want with the NBA it's in the WNBA. Star players beefing. Star players fouling each other. Women getting in each other's faces. Like that what you want. We got we got Sarah We got Sarah Ashley Barker and Bridget Carlton out here on the same team.

On the wings and they out here thugging.

Like when you when you when you go to the Portland Fire game and you you you watch them two and you.

Oh, that Portland Fire Portland Fire they be they be on [ __ ] too, boy.

[ __ ] But they they But the thing is they just super aggressive though. Like like call Carla Carla laid out there.

And she get to do her thing cuz she know I got Ashley right there. I got Bridg right there. Who who really want to tussle? Like we could do whatever.

Hey, hey, you know what's funny though? I was telling people like to Swiper was talking about, you know, Angel just not being a good score uh her rookie in, you know, sophomore year. But I'm just like just be honest with you though, they be fouling like a [ __ ] Like a lot of her layups that she missed, they be fouling. I'm like, damn, that's a foul. But they not calling that [ __ ] And it's just like, imagine that be bad ass shots. They not calling.

They not calling Christine. Imagine that. not they not calling but then too and I'm I'm talking about like younger Angel too like she also wasn't really going up super strong and she was she was.

She should have passed a lot of them out though if she shooting that [ __ ] on four [ __ ] she should have passed a lot of them out to be hon to be fair but I did see a lot of fouls though I saw a lot of fouls like she played she plays very awkwardly anyway so you just almost damn near have to foul her because of the way she plays like she plays kind of kind of weird a little bit.

Looked like she off balance even. It looked like she off balance. Yeah.

And so you just you just happened to foul her. But they need to clean that [ __ ] up though because.

I don't want to see no more injuries like Rakia Jackson. Like Rakia Jackson injury was was based on the game being so physical. She thought she didn't want to be physical. [ __ ] I'mma rough a girl up and she missed a step while she tried to play football and then her [ __ ] just gave out. And as soon as she did it, I said, "Yeah, she probably told her shit." Oh, I said she probably tow that [ __ ] but they need to start calling fouls though for sure.

Yeah, man. Um, get well soon, Maria. Also, get well soon. Uh, well, Britney Sykes, her injury wasn't as uh bad as they thought it was going to be.

She didn't tear it.

Nah.

Oh.

No. She got to be out for the season, though. She was that [ __ ] She got to be out for the season. That [ __ ] didn't look good.

What was it, Ron? So, it says Britney Sykes suffered uh planter planter fascist injury.

Okay. Okay.

But both both will be re-evaluated in the upcoming week. So, they're talking about Kiki Rice, too. She suffered a grain three ankle sprain. But, all right, fellas. We We going to get back to it though. We'll get back to the.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, Ron. That that plan fasciitis, she hurt her foot.

No, I I had that same injury. But I'm asking, she did that in the game and that's why she was hurt.

That I mean, that's what.

This is saying right here. Oh, damn. That [ __ ] got to be hard, bro. Plasi was a knee injury.

I thought it was Achilles. I thought it was Achilles. [ __ ] That planter fasciat [ __ ] That [ __ ] bro. For her to. I don't know if y'all saw it. For her to go down the way she did in the game, that bro, that plan of fasciit feel like when you running on, you could feel it like splitting. It's like, oh, that [ __ ] hurts so bad, too, bro. It feel like [ __ ] just took a bunch of pins and scraped the top of your foot to the bottom of your [ __ ] That's what it feel like. And that [ __ ] hurts really bad, bro.

Yeah. So, it took me It took me like two years. Couple weeks. It took me like two years to to like rehab that [ __ ] for real. Like I was going like two times a week, bro. Like I got a lady at the gym. She get that little knife and scrape that [ __ ] bro. It took me like two years to like fully like feel no more pain. Like no more pain. But like that [ __ ] hurts, bro. Like.

All right, fellas. Well, let's get back into it. Drench, we are on player eight right now. Just to bring you up to speed, Wimby went number one, SGA number two, Joic number three, Luca number four, Kate Cunningham came in five, Kawhi Leonard six, and Jaylen Brown is seven. Fellas, let's get back into it. At number eight, players that performed the best over the 2026 NBA season. Who do we have?

Jaylen Brunson. Got to be Um, I'm sticking with Ant. I'll go as well. All right. So, we got two for Anthony Edwards, three for Jaylen Brunson. Chill. Swiper. Who y'all got? Swiper, you sticking with KD? Was Jaylen Brunson better than KD this season in the regular season? You. Sure? In my opinion, no. But I'm just like, do 17 games not matter? They do matter, Ron. I'm not talking about the post. The postseason does matter in. There was 19 games. Actually. KD didn't play in the postseason. So, I that's why I think Jaylen Brunson in this group is valid because he played 19 playoff games and played really well. I'm comfortable with Jaylen Brunson at at eight. I'm good with that. Yes. Yes. I'm comfortable with Jaylen Brunson at eight. Yep. All right. Well, Jaylen Brunson is on the list. He's coming in at eight. Shout out to Jaylen Brunson at number nine, fellas. Brunson is off. Who are we rocking with?

I haven't said it yet. So. Do you? Yeah, I'm still Mars. Y'all stick with Anthony Edwards. All right, so we got Anthony Edwards, guys like Donovan Mitchell, Kevin Durant. I don't think Anthony Edwards was better than Donovan Mitchell this year. So. He's never been better than Donovan Mitchell. I don't think I don't think he was better than Donovan Mitchell this year. But, um. And I'm naming. Do anybody do anybody else agree with Anthony Edwards not being better than Don Mitchell this year? So, nobody got push back on Chill for saying that? We had push back. How many times you had the conversation? We had a whole conversation. Need to repeat the same just. I just I just I just wanted to know cuz y'all just let you know sometime y'all just let Chill get that off and everybody kind of just. Well, we just we just had a whole. I think this year though I got I got Donovan Mitchell this year cuz I'm I'm I'm factoring in playoffs too. Donovan Mitchell as much as it it's. You factor in playoffs. If you factor in Donovan Donovan has some good games. You literally just put an argument together yesterday about about Jaylen Brunson, how mid he was in the playoffs. Brunson was better than Mitchell this playoff. You literally did this last night on the show. Brunson was better than Donovan Mitchell talked about. No, no, no. That's not the point. You literally last night had a conversation about how mid Jaylen Brunson was compared to OG compared to Cat last night. Meanwhile, Donovan Mitchell, I'm watching him against Toronto, averaged 30 a game at home. He averaged 30 A GAME AT HOME. CHILL, this is pointless. He did everything. He did that at home. No, he did. He did that at home. The only point I'm making about Donovan Mitchell. The point that I'm making about Donovan Mitchell is you can't argue. You can't argue mid most of the playoffs, dude. Like we don't have to keep doing this. You told me that. You told me that Jaylen BRUNSON WAS MID COMPARED. WAS BETTER THROUGH the finals. What does that got to do with you said that? I said call Anthony Towns was better through the Eastern Conference Finals. What does that have to do with Donovan Mitchell? So, was Donovan Mitchell better than Anthony Edwards through the through the conference to the conference finals? Don Anthony Edwards was hurt in the playoffs. That's not what I asked you. Was he better than Don? Was he better than. Donovan Mitchell averaged 20 a game on the road against the Roxers if he. So that's So that's 25 home. Yeah. So if we care about if we care about road home averages, may as well give them. SGA averaged 20 a game at on the road against San Antonio in the conference finals. So that's some that's neither that that's something different. I've never heard us do home and road averages for players. I've never heard this. But when I'm when I'm thinking about the mid thing, when I'm thinking about the mid thing, the mid thing tells me that overall you were just you were okay. That's what that sounds like. Definitely. We watched we we had conversations after every. I think okay is generous, but I I don't think he was made. I actually think Donovan Mitchell was already in the playoffs this year. He He had games where he was going crazy. I didn't just lie. Sh. He averaged 19 a game against He averaged 19 a game against San Antonio on the road. He averaged 30 a game at home. I'm sorry, 29 a game at home. That's not a fact. I mean, that that's that's not my opinion. That's a fact. So, you just know everyone's worried. No, but but we we do this thing when we get when we get away from the playoffs on people's. For for players that are not considered in the best in the world talks, we we get this glossed over thing. Mitchell was getting talked about up here like he was dropping the ball consistently. I do a show with a dude that covers the Cavaliers on a day-to-day basis. He himself was saying the reason why they were struggling in part in large part because how mid Donovan Mitchell was. Remember Mars? There were numbers going around all of Twitter about his playmaking and about his passing and about the fact he couldn't create advantages and how much better they were when James Harden was on the floor. They couldn't create offense without James Harden. This was a conversation all playoffs and he was bad. In a lot of games, especially in the Raptors series and was thoroughly outplayed. Chill, I'm not going to remember every individual game with Donov Mitchell. I I do remember we came up here and we were having these conversations. So, I don't know why you do this. Okay. You know what? You're right. You got We won chill chill. You don't got You don't got to do that though. Stick with your man if you want to stick with your man. But y'all got it. It's Anthony Edwards. Y'all got it. We are on nine. Ant has two votes. Domo voted for for him even though Domo just left. We got Domo Mars. Where else are you guys at?

Anthony Edwards was in the conference finals. Boy, holy [ __ ] It would have been a way different conversation about Anthony Edwards this season. Swiper, are you sticking with KD? No, I I I think it's relevant to talk about the fact that Ant was hurt for like the last three months of the year and didn't play well. I think that's relevant. Like I do think that's valid context to bring up. The fact that he was ineligible for all NBA means he didn't even play 65 games this year. like and then when he played in the playoffs he he wasn't very good. I think all of that stuff is very relevant which is why I consider Kevin Durant. Not that mention though, right? Of course not. But that's why I considered um Kevin Rand.

All right, Jordan Ox chill. Who you guys rocking with right here? This out of the a tiebreaker or we can just pick anybody? No, you could pick anybody. So we already I'm with Jay Brunson, right? So we already got Jaylen Brunson. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah, Jaylen Brunson just went eighth. So Jaylen Brunson went eight. Um Kevin Durant at nine. So you don't want Donovan Mitchell? You don't want Jayen Johnson? Well, no. All right, KD got two. Katie, I got KD, too. Actually, you know what? Yes, I do want Jaylen Johnson. I do think Jayen Johnson was I'm sticking to my guns. Ain't no way you think Jaylen Johnson better than KD. Move Move my vote to KD. Move my. You got it. So, I did I I did say that I did say that Jaylen Johnson played better than KD this season. I did say that. So. You stick away KD. Chill. You can say that. Chill. You can say that, but you can always reig your statement. I can I 100% can do that. He just doesn't want to cuz he thinks Jayen Johnson was left. All right. Who you got? I literally just said KD. So which one is it? Is it KD or is it Jaylen Johnson? I said Jayen Johnson. Okay. It's Jayen Johnson. IT'S JAYLEN JOHNSON. JAYEN JOHNSON. I think Jayen Johnson played better than KD this season. I do. Um, so Ant's not picked yet, right? No. No, he's not. I'm just I'm I'm thinking about um Tyrese Maxi. I think we got. I I think I think Carl Anthony Towns is a little valid, too. Somewhere around. I think we're a little bit late. I think we're a little bit late. Carl Anthony Towns have a little delayed part of his season, though. Not yet. I'm thinking about I'm thinking about Tyrese Maxi, Kevin Durant, and Ant right now. I'm not flopping. [ __ ] I SAID JAYLEN JOHNSON. DAMN. What the [ __ ] is wrong with you dudes? I said Jaylen Johnson and I'm sticking to that. I think Donovan Mitchell is better than Anthony Edwards. Period. I said that and I'm sticking to it. My mind's starting to head a little bit towards the Jamal Murray area as well. I think he had a crazy season. Um, but I don't know if it's time. Swiper said he had a better season than Jaylen Brunson. Swip. You still believe that? Who? Uh, uh, Jamal Murray. In the regular season, he did. He was horrible in the playoffs and then Brunson cleared. But we doing overall playoffs and regular season. How about this one? Who you got? Either way. Either way it go, Ox. It It really don't matter. It's It's Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant got the majority votes. Okay. Well, go ahead. Just click KD. I mean, that's I'm fine with that. I'm not going to push back on KD at all. He had a I think I think KD had a really good season, too. So.

All right, so, we got KD at 10. KD's off the list once again. Guys remaining right now. Giannis, Anthony Edwards, Steph, Donovan Mitchell, Maxi, Jamal Murray, Jaylen Johnson, Jaylen Duran, Chat, Cat, Scotty Barnes. These are guys that were in and around the AllNBA uh all NBA teams. So, at 10, who you guys rocking with? So, who we got at nine? Ron, make sure making sure I'm following you guys. Uh Jaylen Johnson. I mean Kevin Durant. My bad. Kevin, you got Kevin Durant. So. I stopped paying attention. I was like, "What happened?" While I was. Donovan Donovan Mitchell. I'm. Anthony Edwards. I'm back to Anthony Edwards until he makes it. All right, Donovan Mitchell. Cuz I I don't think Anthony Edwards had played as bad in the playoffs as y'all said he did. Brother, he was. I know. I'm I'm with I'm with Ox, too. I I actually thought he was. I know all that's happened, but I don't think he played as. Compared to what he was in the past like. So So Ox, what you saw this this this playoffs compared to what you've seen? Not even not even compared to anything. Just just watching just watching these playoffs. I didn't see a terrible basketball player out there. I was told I was told I was told that I was looking at a guy that couldn't do this and couldn't do that. And I was like, [ __ ] he look all right to me. Aggressiveness wasn't there. I'm not going to argue that point. I don't. But no, his explosive His explosiveness wasn't there. He was still kind of. No, he was still awesome though. I don't think was good in the playlist, but his was. All right. Either way it goes, we got one for Ant. We got one for D Mitch, Jordan, Ox, Swiper. Who you guys rocking with? I got Ant. I got Ant. Two for Ant. Three for Ant. Swiper. Answ Edwards is coming in hot at number 10. All right. Our top team right now, we got uh Mitch after that though.

Ron, ain't you ain't you supposed to have a shirt on that say that say the the um the 20 20 uh 25 26 NBA champions or the San Antonio Spurs? No, I gave that away to one of them African kids. That's what I'm saying. Ain't too Did they Did they drop them boxes off in your in your village? They they dropped them off. I passed them all out, though. I mean, I still got a couple, but you know, I'm repping Mexico right now. So, I I'll get back in Africa in a second. You know. I got you. I got you. But but uh as of right now, 1 through 10, Wimy's number one, SJ's number two, Joic number three, Luca number four, Kate Cunningham five, Kawhi Leonard six, Jaylen Brown seven, Jaylen Brunson eight, Kevin Durant nine, Anthony Edwards 10. We've knocked out our top 10. Now at 11, I got one for Donovan Mitchell. Well, two for Donovan Mitchell cuz that's what I'm rocking with as well. Where the are you guys at? You counting my vote for Donovan Mitchell? I'm counting both of our votes. Oh, okay. Oh, whoa, whoa. We We ain't put Kate. You You had Kate in here already? K is at five. Okay. Oh, Ron, you got to put the list up. Kind we kind of, you know, make make that make it real. K top five. So, Mhm. You know, cuz you can say a name, but then when you see the list, you might want to reig that statement. Hold on. Let me let me get it up here. All right. But who who else you guys got, though? Um, like guys like Tyrese Maxi, uh. Cat. Cat like at at this point. Man, Mars, you don't know Donovan Mitchell at 11. Cut. Damn. I'm not Scotty Barnes. I'm the reason why I'm comfortable with Donovan Mitchell at 11 is because same logic as I use with the top 10. That means that he could fall anywhere between seven and 11. He could fall anywhere between there. That guy. All right. So, we got K. We got one for Cat, two for D Mitch. Swiper. Who you rocking with? Carl. That's fine. Two for Cat. Carl had a better season than Donald Mitchell. I don't think Carl did. How much do you weigh the fact that he was like, you know. Don't say this. You don't have to do this. No. Well, do which part? He was solid defensively. You about to say defensively? What did you What did you interrupt me just to say just now? What were you What were you going to say? You don't have to do this. That's what he said. Do which part? I don't know. Contribute. You about to say something about. Say something about him being bad and his teammate. I'm not. Oh, no, he Ron is just yapping. I wasn't going to mention anything like that at all. Uh, you just about to talk about his defense. No, I think yeah, he was he was like from a from a like a whatever standpoint like he was legitimately great like on both ends the entire playoff front. So, it just depends on how much you want to value like. I think I think he had a AllNBA caliber regular season and was a top five player in the playoffs. I I like CL I like the playoffs but I think Donald Mitchell. Say that's. I think Donald Mitchell had a allNBA type season too. He wasn't a top five he didn't have an allNBA type season. He made the all pro team. So he didn't have all NBA. He had an allNBA season. I have no idea. Yeah, he did. I mean, he did, but I'm saying But I'm saying I'm saying I think Cat's season in the regular season was was too up and down for me. It was a little bit kind of inconsistent for me. Uh just a little bit. Why is that? Why is that his role? The role I mean the way the way the way they started the way they had to change a little bit that benefited some. So that's why I'm giving Donov Mitchell the edge over Cat. Um, in that sense, that's why I said earlier, I think Cat may be a little bit too high because if I'm just being honest, I could put Jaylen Johnson over Cat to be honest with you, just far as as far as. I don't understand how Jaylen Brunson goes at eight, but Cat is too high at 11. I just I don't cuz Jaylen Bronson had an inconsistent regular season, too. He did very much so. Remember, he went on a whole stretch where he was averaging like 14 points a game on like bad. So, like and and which is by the way, I'm fine with where Jaylen Brunson is placed before anyone away. So, I'm just like the Knicks had an inconsistent regular season. That's kind of. I agree. And then in the playoffs, they both turn up, played really well, and then we got Brunson at eight. Once again, not mad at the placement. But then I say Kat, who I think was a top five performer in the playoffs, 11 is a reach over Donovan Mitchell, who I think was mids, I guess, in the. But but I think you I think No, I think you just putting more emphasis on cat playoff uh on Cat's playoff performance, which is fine. I don't have. 15 games at a top five level. I mean. I I mean, I agree, but I'm saying I'm saying as far as like still Donovan Mitchell out of how many games he played, I think he played 72, 71, something like that. Um, I still think he played really. Played 70 C games. Yeah, 70 games. So, I I still think that he, you know, he outperformed uh Cat in the regular season. He didn't do it in the playoffs, but that's what I'm saying. Like for me, Cat inconsistency in in the regular season, it's not that I think it was like super super super super low. Um I think Brunson played better than him in the regular season, too. Um by the way, too. Like even though they both was inconsistent, Brunson was better than Cat in the regular season, though. That's where I guess we disagree. I. You don't think he was better than him? Not Not to a margin in which I can have Brunson at eight and Cat not in the top 11. No, I didn't have either one of them on my NBA team as well. So, I had no Knicks on my OB team, but I considered both of them. I think they both played at a very very comparable level in in a in a regular season. I think both ups and downs. But ultimately Yeah. So, take Brunson off second team or pro. Who Who's in that spot for you? M. I have to check who I had on my team. Yo, let's let's get back to the list, though. Let's not get into all NBA teams. Um, we got two votes at. We got two votes for Donovan Mitchell, two votes for Cat. Go ahead, Ox. Who you rocking with? Oh, god. Yeah, if this is where we're at, um I'm I'm going just go with one of these two guys, make it easier, and I'm definitely going to go with Donovan Mitchell. But, um I I and I think Cat had a good season. I just think Cat Yeah. Belongs more in, you know, a little further back. I I personally think we have to put Scotty Barnes in front of Carl Anthony Towns. Um. I wouldn't be mad at that either though. For for the whole season. And and and Scotty played very well in the playoffs as well. Um, I think I think if we're going to go to Cat, I think we got to start once again, like I mentioned, I think we got to have Jamal Murray conversations. If we're at the cat point right now, I think I think we got to start bringing Tyrese Maxi into this if we're at the cat. You think that Cat You think that Scotty Bonds played closer to an all proseason than Cat did this season. For the whole season? I ain't talking about Let's take the Let's take the postseason out. We just talking about. Yeah, forget if we're saying if if we're not talking about the postseason which which Scotty had a good good play playoffs. If we're talking about reg if we're talking about regular season you have to put Scotty ahead of cat. But you but we not doing that though. We talking about both though. We talking about both Scotty is still right. That's why I'm with a drench. I'm I'm too. I guess I'm just Yeah, I guess I'm just higher on cat than you guys. I am too. I'm high on cat. I'm high on cat too though. But does the fact that after December the 1st, and I mean I just randomly know this, but does it matter that after December 1st, Toronto was 500 for the rest of the season? Does that matter to you guys at all or or does that have anything I don't think Barnes controls the Raptors rap? Okay. I just want to make sure. I think Yeah, I think Sway Barnes was one of the players on my all NBA team. I think he had a really good season. I think he help he actually played better in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. Sway Barnes is probably going to be in my top 15. Like I have no issue. Right. And I'm and chill. I'm I'm super high on K. If if you're if you're in the top 20 list in the NBA, then it's it's a it's a foregone conclus conclusion that I'm super high on you if you're top 20 in the NBA conversation. So yeah, I got big love for Cat, big love for Scotty, big love for Jamal, big love for Tyrese Maxi. I'm going to go with Donovan Mitchell at this point right here, though.

All right, Yo, Swiper, it's on you, brother. Uh yeah, I bought a car already, didn't I? No, I don't think you did. Yeah, but he just sounds like he just did. He's going with cat call. All right, so hold on. No, we got three cats cuz Swiper. I think you already marked Swipers down. All right, hold on. So who who I went with Donovan Mitchell? Me, Ox, Chill. I got I got Donovan Mitchell, too. So it's Donovan Mitchell. What the hell, Ron? YOU SAID YOU HAD CAT. NO. LOOK, I had Donovan Mitchell ahead of uh Anthony Edwards. Oh, but when you when we was talking about Cat, you was like, "I agree with you, Mar. I got Cat right here, too." It's cool, though. It's some Ron [ __ ] I know. I got D Mitch. It's Friday. What's What's good, uh, Real Talk? Pastor Real Talk? Good. Good Friday afternoon, sir. How are you? Good afternoon. Uh, well, it's still morning where I'm at. So, good morning to you all. Good morning. Good morning to you all. I just want to say that Jaylen Brown being number seven on this list is absolutely disgusting work by you all. Um the fact that some of y'all come up here and say that the playoffs the playoffs matter yet Jaylen Brown is seventh on my glorious list and my glorious league. I guess that's what y'all decide. It is what it is. And the Anthony Edwards disrespect on this platform is absolutely outrageous. But. I thought playoffs man. You know, to be expected. Then why the hell is Jaylen Brown number seven? Why the hell is Luca Dantis on the list? Why Why is Jaylen Brown number seven? Anthony Edwards above Jaylen Brown. But he's not. Cuz this is America and we vote here. Yeah. And and we vote it in like Donald Trump. We vote wrong all the time. You're correct. I agree with you. You shouldn't You should have You shouldn't have voted for him then. I didn't I didn't vote for him. That was Swiper. He wasn't. Please don't Please don't get Swiper started on this.

All right, Charles. Oh, I'm going to go ahead and put this up here. This is what we got right now. Uh, just based on our last three picks. Um, Kevin Durant was nine, Anthony Edwards was 10, Donovan Mitchell at 11. Now at 12, who are we rocking with? Once again, we got names like Tyrese Maxi, Jamal Murray, Jaylen Johnson, Jaylen Darin, Chad Homegrren, Carl Anthony Town, Scotty Barnes, Denny Aia, Cooper Flag. Cooper flag is not in this conversation. Stop. Ox. Quiet. Tripping a little bit. He's not going to make this list at all. Say that. No, we didn't say that. We. Make the list for me. Yeah. But he might make it for some of you guys. Yeah. And he's not in be number one. He's not in this conversation. No. Yeah, cuz I Yeah. I mean, sorry. I call. I think Scotty B's got to be I think Scotty Bond's got to be next right here, though. No, we're just Carl. I got Carl. I think I think Yeah, I got Scotty. Yeah, I don't think Cat going to make it. So, I'm fine with Squway, so I'll go with. Yeah, I got Scotty B. I be comfortable with Cat at uh at 12. Yes. I mean, I C cat got my vote. I'll go with Cat then. Okay, never mind. I'm comfortable with Cat. I'm comfortable with 11. I just didn't think he was going to get the votes. I I got I got Scotty right here, though. I'm comfortable with talk. Who would you take right here? Eventually. I got Scotty. Scotty. Okay. Yeah. Was that 43? Yeah. So, we got Caron T. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because I'm I'm still I'm I'm still on this Jamal Murray thing, too. Did you put your ballot in yet? So So wait a minute. Have to pick Jamal Murray, then it don't matter. Yeah. Well, it it don't matter either way cuz they got four for Cat. And I'm not mad at Cat. So going into this next one, y'all sincerely think that Scotty Barnes and Jamal Murray were both better than Jaylen Johnson? I think Scotty Barnes was both of them. Both of them better than both of them. Hell yeah. Is Is Cat at 12? Are we still fighting soon? Ron Denny is Denny is now for me. No, no, no. I got Tyres Maxi. Scotty. We We haven't got to Scotty yet. I have Tyrese Maxi over. How do you over Scotty? Because I I value 26 27 points a game. Highly heavily. Unless this is Kevin. Swiper, to be fair, Swiper, because I know that that that we're some peasants up here and we don't know. I have a clue what we talking about. I'd like to think that being a top five scorer in the NBA and leading the NBA in minutes matters. I'd like to think so. And to completely dismiss that like it doesn't mean anything on a team where your best player in terms of your big guy, in terms of talent was out for half the season and you were doing a lot of the heavy lifting. I'd like to think that that matters. Swiper. Jamal Murray and uh Scotty Barnes over there playing second fiddle on the offensive end. Who was who was Scotty Barnes playing second fiddle to? Burns and yeah, probably the guy that was the best scorer on the team all regular season. Did ball in the playoffs though? I will give him that. But 82 games of. Second fiddle is just second fiddle is just based on who scores more. Just. Like what second fiddle scoring wise but I mean yeah he was he was he was the best passer on the team. He was obviously the best defender. He was the best player on the team. But you know, once again though, like. Wait, so was Joel Embiid second fielder? I think he was the most low key there. I do think that he was the best saying words. All night. Or night he was. I think that he was the I do think that he was the best player and I don't think it's a question of whether or not who the guy is whenever Joel Embiid is there like Joel Embiid is their guy but Tyrese Maxi did most of the heavy lifting for the majority of the season. Off the script that Joel Embiid was in and out of the lineup. Yeah, he had a tough role to be in. And off the Job didn't do that well when he was in that role but I don't think that's his fault like it's not his fault Joel Embiid isn't there but they don't win without Joel Embiids they just don't like however we want to slice it they they just lose a lot but Maxi puts some numbers and I don't have an issue with Maxi I think he's. Which is what we which is again what what we're talking about like in terms of a season like they might not have won a lot right they might. That's why Maxi would be over Embiid even though Embiid is clearly a better player than him one played 70 games and one didn't. Well, Embiid would be over a lot of people if he played 65 games. I mean, yeah, 60 games he would be like to be. You know, Joel Embiid. But yeah, I go square BS over Tyres.

All right, so, who who all has Scotty Barnes right now? Me. All right, Scotty. Yep. Scotty. Scotty Barnes is 13. Shout out to Scotty. I wonder if Penn will be okay with us having him in the top 15. No. He should be. He should be a. We had Jaylen Brown above him. He won't he won't like the Jaylen Brown. Yeah. Everyone else I think he might be tolerable but Jaylen Brown. I don't think he'll accept. He don't like Jaylen Brown. I think he'll struggle with. He think J he think that he thinks Scotty Barnes is better than Jaylen Brown. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think I think he don't know Ball if he thinks Scotty Barnes is better than Jaylen Brown.

All right, here's the list, y'all. This is where we at right now. Now, Scotty Barnes just came in at 13. Who do we have at 14, y'all? Um, and then we Durant was uh nine, Brunson at eight. So, Ant, Donovan, Cat, Scotty, Box, did you have. I actually don't think this list is that bad. I'll take Jaylen Johnson at 14. Ron. Okay, I think the list is getting worse. I think it's Cooper flag time. Oh my god. Oh, okay. We We top out at 13. That's where we get my My thing is this this is where my basketball knowledge comes into question because I'm not sure if I think Scotty Morris is better than Cooper Flag. So this is this is where I start having these topics. I got the list is who had a better season, not who's better. No, no, that is who's better. Who if you had a better season, you're better. If I if I have to sometimes. Do you think Cooper Flack had a better season? I have to look at Cuba Black had a better season than Jamal Martin. Oh, I I'm I've been I'm the only one up here been advocating for Jamal Murray and Jamal Murray picking I'm not No, I'm talking about today Swipe Chill on this list. He every time I bring up every time I bring up Jamal Murray, if you pay attention, swap because he's blaming Jamal Murray for for uh Jokic getting held accountable that he sp he spent all season he spent all season putting on for Jamal Murray and now all of a sudden he don't got no love for Jamal because Jamal had one bad series. I I think I think this I think this [ __ ] is too finicky. I think this [ __ ] is too finicky. Like I'm not I'm not voting for Cooper Flag right now, but what I'm saying is I think this is the time we start bringing Cooper Flag's name into this. And I'm not sure if some of these guys that we're talking about are better than Cooper Flag. That's all I'm saying. I'm just I'm just having a conversation.

All right, You're you're spending a lot of You're spending a lot of power on. I'm just I'm just knocking on the door. Okay, cool. Your energy bill going up. You're talking ABOUT I CAN AFFORD IT. You think you I DON'T I DON'T LOOK AT GAS PRICES, SNIPER. I DON'T LOOK AT GAS PRICES. I don't turn my AC off, [ __ ] I spend that money. [ __ ] Hold on, AX. [ __ ] WHATEVER YOU DOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO TURN YOUR [ __ ] AC OFF, TEXT ME, [ __ ] CUZ I TURN MY [ __ ] OFF, [ __ ] MY [ __ ] NIGHT BLOW. I'm not I'm not I'm not in this. Hey, this [ __ ] is blowing. That [ __ ] is kicking. It's 9:45 in the morning. Swiping that AC is kicking. I'm about to open my [ __ ] patio, though. [ __ ] that [ __ ] I turn off everything, [ __ ] I turn to the middle. I got to bring I got to bring us back on. I AIN'T CHECK I AIN'T CHECK THE GAS price and fix your window is the worst the worst process. Well, that's because she pays your bills. That's why. So, I'm trying to understand. I turn my [ __ ] breaker box off when I leave the house. Chill. I got to bring us back home, y'all. As you were saying, Ron. As you were saying. And she's 64 years old. P. 64 years old is crazy. That [ __ ] that [ __ ] said she using her PO money to pay the bill. That's crazy as a [ __ ] 64 years old is crazy.

Scotty Bors just came off the board or just got on the board. Next we have guys like Jamal Murray, Tyres Maxi, Jaylen Johnson, Jaylen Darren, Chad Ogrren, Denny Aia, Michael Porter Jr., Devin Booker, I guess Cooper Flag, uh Chill Win with Jaylen Johnson, Morris and Real Talk. Who y'all rocking with? Cat already on here, huh? Yeah, cat. I need all electricity to zero. I like uh Did you say Denny? Yes, I did say. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Denny kind of showed and proved himself in his in his. Hell. Land game was he was special. He was special in the first first. Hey, do we do we get Maxi up here? No, Tyrese Maxi still not on the board yet. Y'all [ __ ] low on Tyrese Maxi. Me too though. But I [ __ ] with. I'm not. I'm not. Tyrese Tyrese supposed to be on here over Scotty. But. I can't put I can't put Tyrese over Scotty. Can't put Tyrese over Scotty. This is a rough part of the list right here, y'all. It is. Yeah, let me just let me let me add some word. Let me just let me add some words here because there are some people that I had on my AllNBA team that are not in my conversation. I had Chat very clearly all NBA last year. He was, to be fair, Chad was really good the first two rounds. He just was horrible conference final. Yeah, I I think Chad deserves a lot of praise here. He had a great regular season, great first two rounds. But again, that last impression we. That last [ __ ] put a stain on that [ __ ] No, that [ __ ] put a stain on that [ __ ] resume. He play He played terribly. There's no there's no other way to skate around it. But if that there was an argument plus eight, what's that? You played 77 games at at a certain level. Yeah, putting you in the top 15. put over Scotty Barnes. No, I have Scott. Scotty Barnes already on the list, right? Yeah, but I have I have C now. And I know he's not going to vote, so that's fine. I have I have C. So, and C is my pick for till further notice. So, if I'm out the game, I'm out the game. I got Ch. Yeah. I mean, cuz the first two rounds were really good. So, I mean, I think Chad deserves a lot of praise. I like. We don't think that we don't think that Evan Mobley was on Chad's level this year, especially considering the. Not in the regular season. No. I think I think I think there was a major offensive gap between Evan Moy and Chet. I'm not I'm not putting either one of them dudes. And I think was a top three defender on the planet. Yeah, a top two for me. Swipe. Swipe. Can you can you put on It's no It's no way we're putting these dudes ahead of Jamal Murray. Well, Jamal Jamal also stunk it up in the playoffs. So, even if I had a better at least had two rounds of being good in the playoffs. Two really good rounds. Give me give me Jamal had two good rounds of being good against the Lakers and the like. But yeah and Jamal cut a stinger against the decrepit Timberwolves. Yeah. Why are we diminishing the playoffs? It was J McDaniels. J McDaniel J McDaniels was decrepit unit. That's not the same thing that it was decrepit about JD. I got Jamal till he makes it run.

All right, we're entering the 14th pick right now. I got Maxi. Ox has Jamal. Chill has Jaylen Johnson. Mars has. C. Ron. We got C. And then I'm taking and then and then after chat is is Jaylen Johnson for me. Real talking drench. Who you guys got? Chill. Can you get this Jungle Johnson [ __ ] out of here, please? Yeah, please. I wish you you're going to be throwing away your vote, which I've never. It's out of chat and Tyrese Maxi. No, no, no. It's out of everybody. Everybody out ofbody. I didn't. Uh, you know what I'm saying? guys like M Maxi Murray Johnson. Denny Aia is still around. Chad Jaylen Durant. I'll take I I'll take I'll take Denny over. Oh, Michael Porter Jr. just popped up. [ __ ] This season MPJ kind of sunk it up after February. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Before before February, that boy was when I was when I was campaigning for Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He even said he even said he he starts team [ __ ] Yeah. He said, "Fuck it." No, no, no. Cool. I I go Do I want to pick? No, I'm going to go check. I'm I'mma stay consistent with my my my basketball intuition and my basketball knowledge. I was going to say, Denny, I'mma go check. All right. Give me the Give me the two-way monster. Yeah. Chad's next on the list. We got Ched at 14. At 15, who are we rocking with? Um. I have Jamal. Who the [ __ ] back there doing all that? Swiper. What do you want? God. All that choking back there. I mean, damn. Chad. THAT WASN'T CHAD, [ __ ] THAT was That was [ __ ] Chalice back there, boy. That was no damn. Ain't nobody choking you. It could be Chad. No, that was goddamn. Hey, hey, hey, that was Shandra. They said that [ __ ] said Shandra. That's who that was back there choking. Oh, [ __ ] I'm trying to see by your logic, Mars, how you're how you're next on Jamal and not Denny out there. Cuz Jamal is significantly better than him. Mars doesn't like Denny. Like, we all know this. It's not that I don't like Denny. It's that I had Jamal All I had Jamal as a second brought up the bad the bad player. I don't think Denny was good in the playoffs either. He was much better than Jamal Mur. He was I agree. But I think Jamal was much better in the regular season and played more games. That's where we're going to disagree. Much better than you are. You asked. Yeah, we disagree. I had Jamal as a second team all NBA player. I thought my boy had I had Denny as a I had Denny as an honorable mention to be an allNBA player. So yes, I think Jamal Jamal and I swiper. My [ __ ] Denny was so disappointed. I think better than me. Has Kawhai made the list? Yes. You think I'm a real talk? Come on. Been crashed out by now. Y'all know why I made this list. Should have been number two for real. Ax got Jamal Murray. Where are we going from there? All right, we got All right, we got three Lesters. I'm I'mma take Jamal, too. [ __ ] it. I'mma take Jamal, too. Jamal. Can we put Jamal? I'm sure you want to take Denny. Can I get. No, we're not putting Jamal ahead of Chad. No, we're not. Wait. No. Ch's already on the list, you know. I just I just want the information on why Jamal wasn't clearly better than Danny in the regular season. Yo, we'll Hey, we'll c we'll circle back around to this. I want to make sure that we get to 25. Okay, we'll get we we'll get to that. No question about it. All right. Oh, Mar, you said Jaylen Duran. No, you couldn't hear you last name. You said. I wanted an explanation on how Jamal Murray wasn't clearly better than Denny. That's why. Sure, he was better than Denny the regular season, but he was that much worse in the playoffs. All right. There there you have it. But we we got three for Jamal. Real talk. You're going with Denny. Yes. Drench. You're going with Jamal. That's four with Jamal. All right, Jamal is on the list. We got Jamal at 15. How I don't like anything. OKC. Did y'all not hear me put SJ number one? Shout out my man Les. Les is on the list. All right. Let me go ahead and throw this throw this up just so you guys can see it. at 16 is who we rocking with or who we looking for next. Tyrese Maxi still out there. Tyrese Maxi still out there. Jaylen Durin, Jaylen Johnson, Denny Abdia.

Michael Porter Jr., Devin Booker, Evan Mobley, Gloria Marketing. You shouldn't even have said MPJ's name. Just leave him out of this. He's not even involved in this.

I ain't going to lie. I'm not even going to lie. Uh, Ron, next, I think we got to go Tyrese Maxey. He had a better season than uh, De'Aaron Fox, too.

I think so as well. I think he did.

Maxey.

All right, we got.

So everybody got Maxey?

No.

Yeah, I'm fine with Maxey. I can't, I can't think of. Yeah, I can't think of anyone else.

I'm surprised, real talk, ain't said another name.

Like, can we all agree though? Real talk. You agree that Tyrese Maxey had a better season than De'Aaron Fox?

No.

Swap. Are you talking about Austin Reaves?

No, I'm talking. We're just a ways away on.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I think Tyrese Maxey, I think Tyrese Maxey was way more consistent than, um, than the obvious two this season.

No, we haven't heard LaMelo yet at all.

Oh, this year he.

I forgot to.

Oh, no. Yeah, I'm.

Too inconsistent. Too inconsistent.

Not right now.

Yo, what's all that shaking for?

What's all that shaking for?

Not right now though. Not. It's too hot for LaMelo right now.

Hold on. After from December on. From December on, he was going.

No, we, we, we definitely in and around LaMelo range. Definitely.

I'm in, I'm in, I'm in LaMelo range. I'm in Harden range. That's where that's the range of.

That's the range I'm in. Disgusting.

All right. Well.

Somebody explain to me like why, why the the panel seems to be so low on De'Aaron Fox.

No, real talk. I am with you. I, I wasn't low. Ox is high on De'Aaron Fox and Ron is high on De'Aaron Fox. The panel is low. Jalen Johnson averaged 20 and 10. What the [ __ ] is happening right now?

I think De'Aaron Fox is clearly better than Jalen Johnson. So.

Better is clearly better than Jalen.

I got De'Aaron Fox and Jalen Johnson over.

I don't think I'm blowing Denny. I just.

I got De'Aaron Fox over Jalen Johnson.

Is, is, did De'Aaron Fox have a better season than Jalen Johnson?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Regular season and a better play by a lot. By the way, Jalen couldn't get nothing going. He's just better than him. I don't know what to do.

So, Chill. You got Jalen Johnson right here?

I got you.

Chill. You got Jalen Johnson?

I do.

All right, Ox. Who you got?

I think I got Denny. Okay. Is already there?

Yeah.

Ron, sit back, bro.

Yeah.

I got Denny right here.

I'm go, I'mma go with Denny. I'm trying to make sure I'm not forgetting anybody, though. That's all. I can't believe.

Was that, was that Portland we saw him when he got 40 or was that, was that the next game?

In the plan.

Plays for Portland?

No, no. Was it in Portland or was it that, that was who they like?

They played the Suns. It was in Phoenix.

Yeah, that's, that's the game I'm talking about. Yeah, he had like 40.

That game was ridiculous.

Yeah. Yeah.

Mars, who you rocking with?

What number were we at?

We are at.

17.

17. Tyrese Maxey just got on the board. The last, last six players. Donovan Mitchell 11, Cat 12, Scotty Barnes 13, Chet 14, Jamal Murray 15, Tyrese Maxey 16. We have Jalen Johnson, Jalen Durant, Denny Abdia, Michael Porter Jr., LaMelo John or LaMelo Ball, uh, Devin Booker.

LaMelo Johnson. Stereotypical.

I'm not mad at LaMelo, though. I'm really in here. Yeah, I might have LaMelo, man. That's some stereotypical [ __ ] right there. [ __ ] Johnson is crazy.

I have no clue where that came from, but she got my [ __ ] Johnson on a [ __ ] boy. Johnson say [ __ ].

I got, I think, I think Jones is crazy.

Dude, I got LaMelo off.

This [ __ ] say LaMelo.

Morris, what you say you have? My bad.

LaMelo. I got LaMelo.

You got LaMelo.

How many games did Steph Curry play last year?

I think 20. 38.

Oh, no.

Yeah, ain't no way y'all thinking about Steph right now.

Steph. We're not, we're not.

Including Steph played 40. Steph played 43 games plus two playing so far.

Two less of games. Uh, 'cause we're not including Steph because of the games played. Does that just make sure I got.

Yeah, 'cause he didn't do nothing. I mean, he wasn't that great in the games that he played too, though.

You could vote for Steph. Like.

But he wasn't that great in the games that he played too, though.

I mean, Steph was.

Yeah, man. We're not even. We're not even.

43 games he was great.

I mean, yeah, he, 27.

He was averaging 27. Steph's going to have, Steph's going to have bad games. I think Steph had a really, really good season when he played, but he played 43 games. So, I'm just going.

Give me Denny.

All right. So, Chill, Jalen Johnson, Denny. Mars, who you got? Denny's. Denny still on the board?

Denny's still on the board. Denny.

Oh, yeah. I got Denny. Yeah, I got Denny.

It's too Denny.

I have forgot about LaMelo. I ain't going to lie. LaMelo should be over Maxey, too.

No. Hell no.

Melo was a little too early season. Real talk.

Little bit too inconsistent.

Scoring points. I'm on to Maxey.

Hey, I mean, [ __ ] WE TALKING ABOUT WE talking about individual stuff. Maxey, Maxey, I don't like the way Maxey play too. You know, I was the first one to say they play a lot of [ __ ] ass junk ball over there.

But, by the way, y'all keep saying MPJ.

Maxey, Maxey was consistent.

Y'all, y'all nobody said Klay Thompson yet. If you bringing up MPJ, we doing doing that. Nah, Klay Thompson ain't have a better season than Cooper Flagg, but you know it is what it is.

Yo, can y'all, can we get on with this [ __ ]?

Cooper Flagg.

I got LaMelo. I got, I got Melo. I got Melo.

Put LaMelo, Denny. Let's make it easy.

Hold on. Wait. Oh, Denny played better than LaMelo this season, bro. Denny played better than LaMelo this season. I don't agree with that.

Swiper. You got LaMelo.

LaMelo's cool. Yeah, I'm good with that. Let's.

All right. So, so hold on.

Real talk. Mars and Swiper all got LaMelo. Yeah, so we got a, we got a three-way tie between uh LaMelo and Denny. Chill. You gonna go ahead and break the tie?

Oh, I like LaMelo.

Between Denny and LaMelo.

Yeah, Denny played better than LaMelo.

A, I'm going to take Audrey.

I, yeah, I don't agree.

But one played in the playoffs, so I do think that should help.

LaMelo's garbage in that playoff game. Oh, boy.

Yeah, exactly. So, I do think you can.

I think throughout the course of the season, it was much better to find what.

Denny was doing. Much better.

Hey, when we Mark, when we get into, uh, some people still trying to figure, we were still trying to figure out what, what LaMelo was doing. We were still trying to get it together. LaMelo wasn't nearly the finisher at the rim that Denny was. I think Denny was a, I think that LaMelo was a damn good distributor, but I don't think we give Denny enough credit for the distributor that he was and playmaker that he was. I think LaMelo was, was better on defense, but I think that the role that LaMelo played, I still think they was trying to figure it out. It was a point where he got benched early in the year. That didn't happen with any. LaMelo's like a top four offensive player this year, though. Like, I do think that needs.

I agree with that. I think, I think that's, I think that might be a reach, but.

I think he top five. I think he top five. Definitely top 10. Definitely top five.

Definitely top five.

He might be five, though. He might be. To be fair, remember when they, when they got healthy, Shai, Luka, Jokic, and then I think the conversation starts like, when they were healthy, they had the best offense in basketball by a good bit for like a run like months at a time. I don't know how long. From January. Yeah, I don't know how much y'all want to have considered that, but I'm saying I think that's a, that's a good.

I mean, I think he was, I think he was a premier offensive engine. I think top four or five might be a bit of a stretch, but I do think he was one of the best offensive players in the league. It's why I had him on my NBA on my NBA team.

Mars, I got a question for you, though.

Do you renege your statement about LaMelo being a good scorer now?

I don't remember. I don't remember, though.

I remember. I remember. I don't think he's that good of a scorer. I'm not saying.

Conveniently.

Yeah. Yeah. No, you said you don't think.

No, what, what Mars said was.

I never said that. I don't remember the context in which I said that.

I look now that do rag too tight all of a sudden.

Something like that. Yeah. You don't see. I remember vividly. We were talking about what would happen.

Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I don't see LaMelo as a scorer like that.

So, Mars, the context.

No, I don't. Yeah. See, I don't. I don't renege. I just wanted to remember the context. Yeah. I don't view. I view LaMelo as an offensive engine. And I think he can score, but I don't view. I view him as a, I view him as a playmaker. I view him as an engine. That's why I view him as.

Okay. I mean, I'm not trying to crucify you. I just wanted to know based on how you was talking about him. I just wanted to know because me, I'm still very high on him as a scorer. I think the playmaking, he's a very gifted playmaker and passer, but I think he's just as gifted as scoring. I think a lot of the flashes of his passing just overshadows what he what he does as a scorer because he will make an amazing pass and it kind of like get you excited, but that [ __ ] is a lethal scorer to be honest with you. But hey.

I think when he has it going, he's a lethal scorer. But.

Yeah, 'cause I mean, I mean, but he, that, that's a part of being young and you have, you got to get a coach and you got to get a team, you know, to kind of settle them in a little bit to take better shots. But I think you'll see, I think next year he'll, he'll, he'll play a little bit better, a little bit more.

Is a better scorer next year. I'm going to be pushing top 10. That's what that's what I'm thinking. So.

The only thing, the only thing I hate about this is that, um, you know, that that playoff run is going to get it to where y'all don't even consider Jalen Duren in this top 25 conversation at all.

Oh, no. Jalen Duren, he. Yeah, he about to.

He's coming up for me.

He, he should be in the next like five players.

He shouldn't be over Bay, though. But let's just stick, stick with that. I'm just say he shouldn't be over. My.

Bad. Yeah.

All right. Well, as of right now, Denny Abdia just came off the list at 18. Um.

Next up.

Wait, so who made it? What? You said Denny.

Denny Abdia. Denny at 18.

I got, I got LaMelo until he makes it.

Okay. Does everybody else vote LaMelo? Let's get, let's get LaMelo on there.

Yeah, let's go ahead and put on.

Over Jalen. Over Jalen Johnson.

'Cause me and Chill, me and Chill got push.

No, I'm, I'm being dead ass serious. I got Jalen Johnson over Scotty Barnes. So like.

You're nuts.

Actually, actually, me and Chill both got him over KD.

No, you don't.

All right, come on. Well, we was us five, we got LaMelo. So.

I don't think Jalen Johnson does better than Square.

Ron, that was the first language you learned. That was the first language you learned. You know what we talking about?

Are you serious?

That was the first language that you learned.

We're not making. What am I saying right now?

Wow. Is this what y'all doing right now?

Swiper. That's crazy.

You didn't SEE RON STARTED THIS. Not start this. Talking crazy. I'm disappointed at you, boy. That's insane. Like, I can get a pass on this, but either way, go saying a beat.

All right. All right. All right. Cameron Johnson. All right. Cameron Johnson, you got to relax.

You [ __ ] ain't no good, bro. Y'all ain't no good.

The only person up here that was in, in, in, in, uh, the, the extra classes was me. So, I can say whatever I want. So, I can, I can say whatever.

What do you mean by extra classes, [ __ ]?

Extra classes. That's exactly what I HEARD IN SUMMER SCHOOL.

Talk to a real talk. Talk to a real talk.

That [ __ ] talking about summer school. That's what he talking about. Extra classes. That's not what he.

Was in recovery. That [ __ ] was in saucer classes.

Well, technically he wasn't in extra classes. He's actually was in lesser classes, but you know. Anyways.

That [ __ ] had two classes all year long.

And one of them was lunch.

That was Swiper when he was in school. Oh, lunch and scribbling class. That's it.

That's it. That [ __ ] had paper. That [ __ ] had lunch and art. That [ __ ] had lunch and art.

That's it.

PE. Don't forget PE.

Oh, yeah. I forgot. I forgot. That's how he got big. That's how he got big.

Some of them be some real good athletes, too.

Them boys. Hey, them boys be strong. You heard what they said about Scotty a couple years ago. But anyway.

No, no, no. That's crazy. No, no, no, no. Hell no. My bad. I thought I was muted. I thought I was muted. Let's get back into it, y'all. Um.

LaMelo Ball at 18. At 19, we still have Steph Curry still lingering. Jalen Johnson is on the list.

Jalen Duren. Devin Booker, Evan Mobley, Michael Porter Jr. Mars, I'mma start with you. Who do you want to rock with?

How many games she play? Is LeBron James a part of this?

James Harden. He is for sure. I have James Harden.

I don't hate James Harden either.

Is Rudy Gobert gonna make the list? Somebody just asked. Is Rudy Gobert gonna make the list?

I doubt it.

Okay. I mean.

I mean, if you guys value the playoffs, I mean, he had a hell of a, hell of a.

I don't hate the James Harden logic.

But yeah, I go James Harden.

All right, we got 51 games played.

Who? Some of the playoffs.

Who? I'm, I could be swayed. Who.

Say that? Say that one more time.

I say how y'all feel about 51 games played and then some of the playoffs.

I mean, it depends who.

Austin Reaves, we are in his tier of.

I'm really not mad at Reaves, 'cause that, that first two, three months. Oh my god.

Austin Reaves in there. We got to put in if Austin Reaves in that, we got to put in MPJ then.

Also.

I don't know. I don't know if that's the same thing, but I would, I wouldn't have Austin Reaves over James Harden. So the dude almost averaged a triple double. Yeah, this [ __ ].

Chill. You got, you still got Chill. Me and you still got Jalen Johnson. Don't worry. Chill. Keep fighting a good fight.

Ox, Swiper, Drench.

Real talk.

I want to put right here.

Who you, who you put? Mars?

Uh, James Harden.

Wait, it's.

I ain't ready for James Harden right now.

Ron, just for a host job real quick, what's a threshold for games played that like with the list? Is it like 45 games? I think it should be. There is the threshold is up to your discretion.

Yeah, it's up to your interpretation.

Well, I. So, would you notice we don't have Giannis on the list? We don't have Embiid on the list. We don't have.

Jayson Tatum. Well, I would have said Steph about five. We.

Don't have any of these guys on the list.

Okay. I didn't any of those guys.

All right. Um, and we, Devin Booker played, he played a fair amount of games.

He played 65ish. I don't know where exactly.

You know what? I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Bam Adebayo right here. I'm gonna go Bam. I'm go Bam Adebayo right here. LeBron could play 64 games. Yeah, the 60 Packers.

Uh, I mean, he did have that 83.

I'm gonna go Bam right here.

He did have season kind of went under the radar. I'm not going to lie. I feel like B.

It did go under the radar, but that's why I got Bam. I got Bam right now. Offense and defensively, it went under the radar.

I'm supposed [ __ ] supposed to be basketball aficionados. You [ __ ] supposed to be. What happened to all that PCL [ __ ]?

Brother? I got to put a timer on the screen.

Brother? First off, you left me on red when I asked for my money, so watch your tone. That's number one.

Well, start then.

My bank account left you on like, left me on red. So like, we both got left on red. Like, literally my bank account in the red, literally.

Like R E D.

So, but I think Austin Reaves was better than James. Uh.

I disagree with that too, Mars. I do not think Austin Reaves is better than James Harden this year. I do not.

I don't think neither of them [ __ ] should be on the list. I don't know how y'all not on Bam right now, bro. Bam. Bam. I think this is the spot for Bam for real.

Swiper.

I mean, I'm, I'm just not, I'm just not as high on Bam's offense. That's it. But the defense, he was amazing. Did, did Bam make All-Defense this year?

Yeah. Second team.

Yeah.

Rightfully so. Right.

But, but you don't got to be high on his offense. His [ __ ] is not for everybody. But he was pretty good on offense. Let's just say that though. He wasn't.

He's a, yeah.

Swiper, Ox.

He just not 83. He not 83 good. Mars, if that, I think.

If he was, then he'll be number one.

Yeah. He not 83 good. I think that that's a little, you know.

Real talk. Who you got, brother?

WAKE UP.

BAM [ __ ] BAM. DAMN.

There we go. We got Bam. Anybody else got BAM?

Austin Reaves.

You should have stuck to your guns.

Austin.

Damn. That's all someone else to just jump in.

Yep. Exactly.

Swiping on.

Why is Austin Reaves better than James Harden?

Plus, James Harden played 20 more games. Just.

He's just better.

Um.

Because I said so. It's not an his highs were a bit higher in my opinion this season. Um.

When we say highs about stretches or like.

The first 30 of the season Re was.

'Cause James Harden the first like 20 or so games of the season was like.

Was cooking. Top.

He was cooking, but was also.

Reaching how we defining bounce back to.

James Harden came into the season and people were talking about.

Not MVP, 'cause they sucked, but like James Harden was.

Well, he was the best player on the team then Kawhi took over. That's That's what happened.

Yeah, like James Harden started the year.

Got healthy.

No, Kawhi was healthy to start the year.

Big Ox, can I please get your pick?

Um, how many games did Lauri Markkanen play?

Ain't no way you going for Lauri Markkanen.

Lauri did average like 20, what? 25. Adebayo, I'm going to talk about Lauri makes these lists because the Jazz keep shutting him down every year.

That's what I'm, that's what I'm saying. If, if Lauri.

He played 42 games, Ox. Yeah. See, he, they just shut him down every year. That's why he.

That's, I just, I just wanted to know. And then, um, so.

He was 27 and 7 while we bullshitting.

Yeah. So.

27 and 10. He was 27 and 7 while we [ __ ].

I thought it was like 20, 25. Linon is better than half of this list.

I think this is the best year Linon.

And, um.

No, he just didn't play.

And, uh, Oh, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and it's time to go for Cooper Flagg. Let's go. I got Cooper Flagg.

All right. Well, Ox, who voted harder? Ox, Mars, and, um, hold up. Yeah, Ox, Mars, and, uh, and Drench. You guys got to break the tie. We got two for Jalen Johnson, two for Austin Reaves.

It was only one. Damn.

The [ __ ] it was only one for [ __ ].

[ __ ] Can I take my vote to? Yeah.

I mean, if you, if you want to. I mean.

I'm not Jaylen Johnson and Austin Reaves are not bad and bad.

Yeah, yeah. I got Bam.

That's what I'm saying. We got Bam.

Yeah, I'm.

I don't know what you guys' deal with Jalen Johnson is, but this is actually disgusting.

No, but Bam better than him though. He didn't have a better season.

Because he better than him in the 25, 26 season.

Yes. Yes.

To me, yeah.

Yes.

Jalen Johnson was good though. Jalen Johnson was really good though. I'm not saying he wasn't good. He was good. It's just that that that number one option [ __ ] is fake though. I'm just letting you know that [ __ ] is fake.

So, even, even with that being true. So Bam ain't the number one option either.

So, so Bam.

I don't care that he's.

Yeah, I know.

Bam. Bam. Bam. The Bam, the better defender. No question about that. Jalen Johnson, better glass cleaner, better in transition, better long ball shooter. I thought that he was better than him on offense.

You think Jalen Johnson rebounds better in bound because he averages more rebounds?

No, I think that he was, I think better. I, I think he's a. No, not just because he averaged more rebounds. No, no, no. I'm not saying that at all. I think that he was a better offense. I think he was a better rebounder overall because I think he got rebounds. I think he got rebounds off the three better. I think he, I think Bam is a better traffic rebound.

Off the three. What you mean off the three? Off the three-point longer bones?

Right. Rebounds. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I, I like to think that yes, they are. They are easy to get. Only except a bunch of teams don't do it and Jalen Johnson did it. I think that these guys both as traffic rebounders. I'm gonna give the edge to Bam because I think I think Bam is a little bit more physical, but I do think that I do think that Jalen Johnson is a better offensive rebounder than Bam is. Um, with that also being said, I think he's a better distributor. I think he a better passer than Bam, and I think he a better transition player than Bam this season, and I think he shot the long ball game better than Bam. I think he shot the long ball better than Bam did.

I, I agree with everything you said offensively. I think he's better in transition. I think he's a better passer. I think he shoots the three back. I agree with all of those things. I disagree with the rebounding part. Um, and I just, I, I don't like Jalen Johnson in the half court. That's really it. So.

I'll take, I'll take Jalen over Austin though, just because of games played. But.

All right. Well, Bam Adebayo is at 19 right now. I'm going to go ahead and put this on the screen so we can see, uh, what the list is up to 19. I'm going to start from the beginning, too. I know some people that that may have just joined and you guys don't know what the full list is in its entirety. Uh, we have Victor Wembanyama at one, SJ at two, Jokic at three, Luka at four, Cade Cunningham at five, Kawhi at six, Jalen Brown at seven, Jalen Brunson at eight, Kevin Durant at nine, Anthony Edwards at 10, Donovan Mitchell at 11, Cat at 12, Scotty Barnes at 13, Chet at 14, Jamal Murray at 15, Tyrese Maxey at 16, Denny Abdia at 17, LaMelo Johnson, LaMelo Ball at 18, and Bam Adebayo at 19. Fellas, we got six more names. We can do this. But here's the thing. We got, we, we got to knock this out. We got 10 minutes to get six names. Let's go ahead and do it, fellas. We still got Jalen Johnson, Jalen Duren, Michael Porter Jr., James Harden, Austin Reaves, Devin Booker, Evan Mobley, Lauri Markkanen, and Cooper Flagg. These are names that have been mentioned.

Uh, how many games?

Just the ringer has OG. 21. Is he in these talks?

He should be.

I'll go James Harden right here. Yeah, I'm go with James.

I mean, if we're bringing up Jalen Johnson, I think OG Anunoby is definitely getting these talks and above.

I'm go James Harden right here, though.

James, brother.

We got two for James, three for James.

Chill. We're still fighting a good fight with James.

My bad. Mars, my bad. I actually wouldn't have been mad at James Harden over Bam. I actually wouldn't have been mad at that.

It's one spot. I'm not going.

Real, real talk. Ox.

I'm going Devin Booker. Shout out the book. I got Cooper.

I wasn't a high on them.

Well, it is James Harden that's on the list at 20.

Damn.

Still falling for this Harden gimmick.

Facts. All right. At 21.

Not really a gimmick. The [ __ ] was [ __ ]. I, I'll go, uh, Jalen Johnson right here.

The Harden gimmick is Harden plays well every year.

Yeah. All right. I'll go, I'll go Jalen Johnson.

My bad.

Drench got Jalen Johnson. We decide when when playoffs knock you down the list or not. I guess, um.

Donovan Mitchell is at 11 and I swear to God he was worse than James Harden in playoffs, but it's fine.

Okay. But he was actually like a top 10 player in the regular season at least.

Which is why, which is why he's fine where he is. James Harden, James Harden played at an All-NBA in the playoffs in my opinion. The reason I didn't have him in the top 15 is because he didn't play at that level in the playoffs. So I slid down.

He played at an All-NBA level this season.

Yeah. Yeah. I think James want to play better than him.

Mars and Real Talk, who you guys got next on the list?

In the playoffs. So.

I don't agree with that statement, but that's fine.

He was, I know you don't.

Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Um, what number are we at?

We're at 20. James Harden just got on the board or we're at 21. James Harden just got in at 20. Uh, Jalen Johnson right here.

Austin Reaves, Booker in range. I might be in Durant range. Evan Mobley, Lauri Markkanen, OG if that's your cup of tea.

Am I in Durant range? Devin Booker.

This is Jalen Durant range, right? 'Cause.

This is Jalen Durant's range for me. Yeah, this is Jalen Durant's range for me. This is incredible out of you guys.

Which part? Jalen Johnson.

Chill. Chill. You had Chill. You had Jalen Durant second team All-NBA this year, didn't you? Chill.

I had a third team All-Pro.

Who's your second team? Did, are they everybody on? I thought you, I could have swore you had a second team. Okay.

Everybody that, everybody that made the second team All-Pro team this year. I had, I had, uh, Anthony Edwards instead of Kevin Durant on second team All-Pro.

Fellas.

It's crazy getting an exception.

I need 21, y'all. We got Drench got Jalen Johnson. Real Talk got Devin Booker.

Yeah.

Chill. Still with Jalen Johnson. Ox, Swiping.

I'm fine with Devin Booker. I'm fine with Devin Booker.

Come on. Let's do Dustin and bring Jalen Johnson home.

I got Flagg.

Devin Booker's fine. Yeah, Devin.

23, 10. Crazy.

Ox, you got to break the tie. We got three with Jalen Johnson, three with Devin Booker.

You [ __ ] are haters, bro. This is crazy.

Haters are saying Devin Booker is better than Jalen. Crazy.

No, he is. No. No. No. He's a better player. We talking about who had a better season.

Yeah, but Devin Booker was good this year and then he.

Booker played almost better than him when he played. You.

Highly disagree. But all right, that's cool. Devin Booker at 21. At 22.

Jalen, Jalen.

Wait, wait. How about Wait, hold on. Ron, you yourself were a Jalen Durant person. You were.

I had Jalen Johnson over because I'm with Jalen Johnson.

Jalen Johnson guy all year. He's.

Yeah, he's been on the Jalen Johnson agenda. I might. Yeah, this, I think I might have Jalen Durant here.

I got Jalen Johnson right here. I got, I got Jalen Johnson as well.

Unless there's a name I'm forgetting, but yeah, I think I'll go Jalen Durant.

Swiper. Who you got right here?

Jalen.

Who? [ __ ].

It's 85 Jalen's in in the world.

[ __ ] It's 85 Jalen's in the five mile radius of where you live. We know it could be it. Know you. It could be picking, you know. We, we don't know what you.

It's [ __ ]. It's, it's, it's 85 Jalen's within Swiper's 5 mile radius right now. It's about seven [ __ ] outside.

It's more than that.

All right. I'm, I'm just, I'm going just advance us. We have four. Yeah, we, we have four Jalen Johnson. So Jalen Johnson's finally on the list at 22.

At 23, we still got Michael Porter Jr., Jalen Durant, Austin Reaves, Evan Mobley, Lauri Markkanen.

Yeah, Durant's fine. Durant can't. I don't think he should slide out like this. Just fine. This fine.

I ain't gonna lie. I might go for OG. I might go with OG right now.

But Jalen Johnson was awful for the playoffs, too, to be fair. Like.

So was Jamal Murray.

He wasn't as bad as he wasn't as bad.

You saw I penalized Jamal. I, I penalized Jamal for it.

All right, but I'm going to go with OG right now.

Jalen Johnson wasn't as bad. Jalen Durant was like one of the worst.

Even relative to the expectation, just playing as many minutes as he did, he was one of the most bad. It was just bad. So.

He got benched. Five mile radius. That's that's that's 31 square miles.

It's about a, it's about 10,000 Jalen in the 31 square miles in in Atlanta.

Them [ __ ]. No, it's a lot of Jalen's in Atlanta. [ __ ].

That's 31 square miles. It's about.

Go outside and yell Jalen. Watch how many [ __ ] turn around.

Like Jalen, all them [ __ ] going to turn around.

Jalen Johnson just got on the list at 22. At 23, we still got Jalen Durant, Austin Reaves, Evan Mobley, Lauri Markkanen, God forbid I say Michael Porter Jr., Cooper Flagg, OG.

I got Austin till he on the list. All right. We got one for Austin. We got one for Cooper, one for Jalen Durant. Mars, you took Jalen Durant, right?

I'm not standing on that.

All right. Well, we've got two 'cause I got, I got Jalen.

I got Jalen Durant, too.

Yeah, I'm good with Jalen Durant. By the way, Drench, I think the most popular names here in Atlanta in this region are probably going to be uh Chris. Chris and Josh.

Well, there's about to be a million Jalen born in New York in about the next six months. So, we got to add.

Oh, yeah. For sure. For sure. There is a baby boom every year. Every time a team wins champions, there's a baby boom that year.

King of New York.

In about, in about whenever kids start school, about 5 years from now, 2031, it's going to be a class full of Jay. Class full of Jalen.

Jalen. Huh? Huh? Huh? You [ __ ] going to just raise your hand.

And then the girls are going to be called like Jayla or something. It's.

Jalen. No, the girl's name can be Jalen, too.

Yeah.

I know a couple fine Jaylen.

I do too. Yeah.

I do too.

I, hey, don't, don't, don't forget Jaylas.

[ __ ] Jay, you know.

You know how that name came about.

Hey, somebody clip Ron.

Jaylen Rose. I think I think I think a lot of people name.

Jaylen's. I need that clip.

I'll do it right now. I'll.

Clip that. I'm not going.

Yeah. I think, um, I think I think a lot of them back then were were named after Jaylen Rose. For real. I know, I know, I know people who literally name their kid after Roll for sure.

How long is a go say that? Real talk about 40 seconds, 45 seconds.

Do you want me to tell everybody who you introduced me to?

Go ahead.

Your friend Tanya.

That's fine with me. Nobody likes.

Yep.

Shandra.

Hey, voice deeper than mine.

That was my name is Tanya. What? But anyways, anyways, Jalen Durant just made the list. We have two more names, fellas. 24 and 25. We got Austin Reaves, Evan Mobley, Lauri Markkanen, Cooper Flagg, OG Anunoby. Real Talk, are you staying with, uh, with Austin?

Yes, that's fine.

Ox, are you staying with, uh, Cooper?

Yeah. Swiper, are you staying with Tanya?

Yeah, I'll go with Austin Reaves here.

All right, Chill. Who you got?

Mobley. Old habits die hard. I'm just being honest with you guys. I'm just, I'm go, I'm gonna go with Cooper Flagg right now. I'm go with Cooper Flagg right now.

It's really not.

Flagg. Cooper Flagg had a better season.

They would. Yeah. Send that to me. Clip to me.

[ __ ] Ron got caught in HD. I know a couple fine Jaylen. Look, you can only hear his voice. It's seven [ __ ] talking and you can hear that [ __ ] voice over takeover. I know a couple fail. I still stand with what I said. Hey, I know a fine ass Jaylen in Portland. Hey, y'all can, y'all can take it. She know and I know. All right.

That [ __ ] Hey, that [ __ ] going to be moving in with you. That [ __ ] going to be moving in with you. So.

[ __ ] don't bring that [ __ ] to my house. I don't play that [ __ ].

This [ __ ] caught HD. I do a, uh, I do got to come down there next week.

You cool? You straight. You straight.

Hey, I'mma find my way in that house and I ain't leaving. Thank you.

Is that, is that, is that what, uh, uh, Lingling from Thailand said to you?

That's crazy.

This, this [ __ ] man.

I have OG. I have.

I got Cooper Flagg right here. Cooper Flagg right here. Come on, man. We got.

Got Evan.

Mars got OG. We got two Cooper Flags. Real Talk. Got, oh, Swiper to Austin Reaves.

Ain't no way y'all think Austin Reaves play better than Cooper Flagg.

I don't think Cooper Flagg. I don't UNDERSTAND HOW WE'VE GOT WHAT YOU mean better than Amen Thompson. No, I do not.

I got, I got Lauri OG. That's fine. It is what it is. I, I don't, I don't see who it is.

All right. So, check it out, y'all. We got, we got a a tie with two, two Austin Reaves and two Cooper Flags. I got Lauri. I'm going to go with Austin Reaves.

Is that? No. Is that? No.

No. No. Mars got Mars got. Yeah, AR just made the list.

Hold on. Who? Oh, Mars. You took you to Mars.

He took you to Reaves being petty. That [ __ ] being petty.

There's no way Cooper Flagg was better than Amen this year. I'm sorry. There's just no way. I'm not.

Well, vote for Amen.

No, because better than OG.

I agree. I said that too.

Man, that [ __ ] was better than OG this year.

Facts. OG [ __ ] with Cooper.

I [ __ ] with Google.

Yeah, you know about to talk. He's not better than Amen. I'm sorry. He's not. I'm not sorry. Actually, no. He's not better than Amen. He's.

[ __ ] You know, you know what I think about it.

For sure. I got Amen next.

He was a way. He was no better than.

Check it out. I know Chill still has Evan Mobley. I still got Lauri. Do you guys still got Cooper? Ox and, uh, and Drench.

I got Cooper for sure. If, if it's between Lauri and Cooper, I got Cooper.

All right. The three that picked Austin Reaves, who you guys got? OG's still out there. MPJ, he's no better than MPJ either. If y'all going better than MPJ for sure if y'all going, if y'all going OG, know better. I'm not going to lie. I'm going, you know better.

Y'all [ __ ] know we ain't put Paolo Banchero in here. You [ __ ] is some haters. And Ron, you not really from Seattle.

Cooper Flagg better than him.

Paulo.

I actually don't think he's mad at Paulo, but it is what it is.

Who, who y'all got? 'Cause if y'all got OG.

I got OG.

Amen allegedly has no offense. I'm so sure.

Yeah, Paulo had a down season, man. So.

Amen not in these talks.

He was hooping in the playoffs.

I agree. Amen is not in top 25.

225 and 8, Ron.

Crazy.

I'm talking about playoffs. I might even make. I'm just saying 225 and 8 in the regular season. That's that was that was it was a dreary vision for him though. But.

Paulo Banchero better than Austin Reaves this year, bro. I don't give a [ __ ] what y'all talking about. That [ __ ] better.

I don't agree with that. I go OG. No, that's I coattail. [ __ ] playing on the side coattail and y'all going to give him that. Drench. Drench. If you going to go with Paulo, I got.

He was hooping with all the games Luka is playing.

I don't care, [ __ ]. He's still on his coattail. I.

I would, I would have had Austin if he played more games. I just.

Yeah, I got, I got Paulo.

I would have had Austin in the.

We got Paulo.

[ __ ] I, I would, I would have had Austin somewhere around 17, 18 if he played more games.

I mean, with that. I got to go right now. But Dion Forks played 72 games.

Oh, [ __ ].

He based on that, based on the playoffs, BASED ON THE PLAYOFFS, he ain't top 40. Based on the playoffs, top 50.

Hey, where would Dylan Harper? Which rookie has the most chance of making it? Flagg.

Please demand a trade.

To where he can hoop.

Well, he, he, what do you mean? He can't hoop with the Spurs. I'mma just let y'all know he has to he has to step on castle real.

We are almost done, y'all.

Of the season was, was pretty, was pretty shitty if you want to be.

Honestly, James this year.

No.

He's better than Cooper Flagg.

He 100% was better.

Cooper Flagg ain't even on the list.

I thought Paulo, you. That's what I'm saying. LeBron is bad and keep it flat.

It's Paulo next.

Paulo went to the playoff without her being Amen.

You just put OG on. I'm trying to vote like who y'all got then Austin Reaves. Mars has OG. Chill has Evan Mobley. Me and D have Paulo. Real Talk.

I had OG. I thought we had OG make a list. Is that me?

No, no, wait.

Chill. You ain't going to switch to who you got. Who you got?

I know.

I'm thinking OG.

It's OG and Paulo.

OG.

OG, Cooper, and Lauri.

Nasty ass.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So.

You better be a top 25 player. You better check.

Who said that? Just clown. Clown. Clown. Um. Uh. He's twerking. Look at. Look at Mars. Twerking for jokes once again.

Uh, joke. How's he not playing?

Uh, shoot, bro.

Twerking and clapping.

Yeah, twerking and clapping. That's what he be doing. Marvin twerking and clapping.

Now I'm wrong 'cause then the guy who was better than Shay against the same opponent is a top 20 pounder.

You think he was better than Shay? What are you talking about? So what does that got to do with me?

Swiper. Swiper. Who do you have? I'm thinking. Ron, there's a lot of people in the NBA, brother. Um, there is.

Come back to me.

Come back to you.

I swear to my, in my chill voice, I swear to God, we boxing next time I see OG not already made it. Does he know how.

So OG has three votes?

Three votes. He was 21 earlier.

If he ties it up, that's what he's.

Are you going to pick Paulo? Is Paulo one of your options?

I think he deserves a mention here. Yeah, I'm.

No, I was just asking 'cause if it wasn't going to be Paulo, then we would have got OG on the list and moved on. And Apollo, too.

I SAID APOLLO. YEAH. Y'ALL [ __ ] CRAZY. If y'all think OG better than Chill. It's Chill. It's Chill. It's Chill. Chill. Got to fix it.

Well, well, I, I'll go with OG.

No. Chill. Stay over there. Stay over there, [ __ ].

All right. [ __ ] all that. Chill. You, you going to be the, you're the tie breaker.

Hey, I'll go Paulo. I'm going Paulo. I was. That first round was crazy.

Yeah, see, Chill. You the tie breaker. You just said OG. We got OG. That first round was no crazy. Hey, nobody's talking to you. Nobody's talking to you.

You think it was crazy? I mean, yeah. Cool.

Hey, we got, we got light skin.

19 points in the fourth quarter. One of them games and 45 points. Got light beef. These [ __ ] going to start pulling hair.

Ain't no light.

Who pulling hair?

Break a nail. Uhoh.

All right, y'all. Here we go, man.

Who pulling his hair? Yeah, they both baldled allegedly.

Oh, that is a fact. Hey.

Pull his mustache.

Drench, you have a man weave and you have a and you have a press on beard. Stay off my neck. I know you want to look at me.

Look, look. Hey, hey, Ron, Ron, put Swiper on the big screen. I want to let y'all know where.

This [ __ ] got all his swag from. Look, now put him by itself, too. This [ __ ] got all his swag from me.

That [ __ ] saw me wear a scarf. He put a scarf on. That [ __ ] saw me wear a hat. He put a hat on. That [ __ ] saw me wear them glasses. He put his glasses on. The only thing that [ __ ] can't do is see me put a beard on cuz he can't put his on. That's it.

I shave every day by the way. Just so you know. That's it. I shave every day.

[ __ ] you know you ain't shaving [ __ ]. You a lying [ __ ].

Mind you, my sh. He is shaving something. Yeah, I had a beard for years FOR UNTIL 23.

[ __ ] YOU HAD THAT CARLOS BOOZER ass haircut. AIN'T NO [ __ ] WAY YOU HAD NO BEARD. YOU DREW THAT [ __ ] ON. THERE THERE'S VIDEOS OF ME WITH A BEARD RIGHT NOW. THAT [ __ ] 3 years.

Swiper went on a date and did painting with a twist and they painted his [ __ ] head like Carlo. And guess what? In real talk in real talk, Dre went on a date and you paid her at the end. So you SHUT UP TO TALKING ABOUT I PAY YOU [ __ ]. I RATHER PAY BEFORE I GO ON A DATE, [ __ ]. I'mma spin the bread anyway, [ __ ]. GIVE IT UP NOW. [ __ ] I'M WAITING FOR AFTER. [ __ ] I GOT 150 FOR YOU. WE CAN GET IT ON. I'M PAYING. [ __ ] SKIP THE THE STEAK. I WANT THE ASS. CHILL. SKIP THE STEAK. GIVE ME THE ASS.

HERE GO THE CASH. 150.

Since we on the subject beef, I ain't paying no 100 for no ass. I'm good. Anyway, IF I'M GOING ON A DATE, I MIGHT AS WELL SKIP.

Since we on the subject of beef, I'd like to say that real talk and I have come a long way from where we used to be. So shout out to reconciliation cuz real talk and I used to be like the [ __ ] Palestinians and the and and the Protestants cuz I didn't know basketball.

Okay. I ain't have I I ain't have a lie. I ain't have a clue about basketball. So So real talk and I have Shout out Shout out to reconciliation. That's what I'd like.

Yeah, that's when I only knew you. That's all that's when I only knew you about your co take. Hey, hey, chill. All I'm telling you is this. Chill. If you going to spend 150 on a date, you might as well be real with her up front. Hey, listen girl. We ain't got to go on no date. I'm already going to spend that 150. It is what it is.

Look, I'm doing. I mean, low key, SHE SHE CAN do a lot with that 150 and I can go spend my time somewhere else. I didn't kill two birds and one stone and one of them.

[ __ ] I might do me. I ain't going to lie. telling you that's Houston. Yeah, that's the Houston thing. You see on the street I'm talking about.

No, that's that tricky ass south [ __ ]. That's all. NOW, AIN'T NO TRICKING YOU [ __ ] GOING ON A DATE ANYWAY. YAY ON A DATE ANYWAY.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. DRENCH, DRENCH. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THAT'S all I'm saying. I'm not saying it necessarily in a negative context, but that's tricking in his purest form. [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] I'm tricking. If you if you if you in the ditch, drenching. Are y'all Are y'all pulling up on Sunday to the members only stream?

Trick on, bro. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely pulling up. I would love to get down to the bottom of exactly what tricking is and what can be qualified as tricking on Sunday. Trick to that. However, I keep missing them. I keep missing the members.

I mean, these [ __ ] streams be at [ __ ] 2 a.m. I mean, [ __ ]. I be missing them, too. I be I'll be [ __ ] I'll be trying I'll be mid busy and Ron sitting there Ron don't say [ __ ] about it all day get in the chat and put that [ __ ] on RIGHT AT 7:58 stream at 8:00.

Hey chat hey chat to everybody that pays attention I put this graphic on the screen every single show we have membersonly streams Sunday and Thursday at 900 p.m. Eastern time. All right, y'all know where to find us at 9:00 p.m. Eastern time on Sundays and Thursdays. Um, hopefully the guys that missed the last stream will make the next stream. But even if they don't, I know a couple of y'all going to pull up and I know we gonna have a good ass time with the members.

Now, let's get back. This Sunday is Father's Day, Drench.

by the way. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Drench, run that co run that coach that tell you practice at 10 o'clock and it's 9:50.

For sure. Y'all better be at practice or we running. Like, [ __ ] what? It is Father's Day this weekend. You know, I'm gonna see if my daughter gonna get me a present.

All right, fellas. I told I told the kids at practice yesterday. I was like, "Oh, it is the little bastards." Them [ __ ] ain't getting that daddy nothing.

This is the list right now. We got OG Anobia at 25, Austin Reeves at 24, Jaylen Darren at 23, Jaylen Johnson at 22, Devin Booker at 21, James Harden at 20, Bam Adabio at 19, LaMelo Ball at 18, Denny Ay at 17, Tyrese Maxi at 16, Jamal Murray cracked the top 15, he's at 15, Chad Homegr at 14, Scotty Barnes at 13, Carl Anthony Towns at 12, Donovan Mitchell at 11, Anthony Edwards at 10, Kevin Durant at nine, Jaylen Brunson at eight, Jaylen Brown at seven, Kawi Leonard at six, Kade Cunningham at five, Luca Donic at four, Noola Joic at three, SGA at two, and Victor Himyama at one. That's our 2026 players list. Chat, talk to us in the post comments. Let us know how you guys feel about this list, what you would change, and you could even drop your full 25 if you want to do that. I'm curious to see how you guys feel about our list. If you're in the chat right now, grade our list. Give us a A, B, C, D, F. Whichever one you think it is. Talk to us and let us know how we did. I think we did a pretty good job.

Too high. I don't think it's that bad. If I'm being honest, I don't think it's that bad.

That's my right. Y'all [ __ ] know the King of New York supposed to be number one. I keep telling y'all, [ __ ] that [ __ ].

I know. I know. I know. Number one shouldn't be number one. That's all I know. And al and I also know chat chat too high too. Chat and W be both too high.

All right, King of New York. The first super chat that I got is from Mr. Take That Risk 26. Mr. Take That Risk said was watching some of the show clips this morning and was taken aback. We can't compare Damian Chokeler to Brunson. Steph was injured one of them series and he got walked down by Draymond and Clay.

I do think Brunson is better than 2016. Dang. Speaking of clips, speaking of clips, um I want to say this sometimes, you know, I go to sleep with my YouTube on and then the panel will pop on. Swiper, if you wake me up my [ __ ] sleep one more time with all that goddamn screaming when you defending Yokic, I'm gonna kick your ass. I'mma just say that, [ __ ]. I be sleep through everybody takes until Swiper get on. Now I'm I got to lift up and cut the [ __ ] TV off. Like damn, it woke me up out of dream.

Better than 2018 Dame. I think Jaylen Brunson is better than every Dame up until 202 years. The Dame I said was better I think is 2020 to 2023. That's the game I think is a better player. Every game before that, I think Brunson's better than.

All right. KC19650 thinks Brunson's not only better than uh Damian, but KC said Brunson is over Luca. Can we stop the BS? Brunson is a top five player in the NBA right now. Stop disrespecting him. Luca isn't top 10. Jaylen Brown is better than him. How the [ __ ] is he all the media? How How the [ __ ] is he all the media here before you guys?

Where does the word he show up? How the [ __ ] is all the media here before you guys? There you go. Um Well, the media had Luca first team all NBA. What does that mean? How does How does the media How is the media? Well, first and foremost, we are not like the media. We do our own thing over here. Just because they say stuff, just because they say all say the same thing and we don't, that doesn't mean that we're behind. No. That's why you That's why you're here. That's why you ain't listening to them and you listening to us because we are different over here.

I think Lucas really I need to come back and and play in the playoffs next season. I I need him to stay healthy, man. Hey, real talk. I promise you June 2026 if the Lakers are the NBA champs and Luca has one of those generational runs, I promise you we are not having him best in the world conversations. He top 10 all time. He's top.

He doesn't need to have a generational run. They just need to win. That's how. And and if that happens, I promise you the conversations that Jaylen Brunson in, let let the Lakers win the NBA championship next year with Luca as the man. the conversations that he's going to be in are going to be way different than what they are now. Way different.

Yeah. But I mean, we're in Jaylen Brunson convos as he suck. He's in Jaylen Brunson convos for like the week after the championship about three months from now.

I don't know about that though. Are we in the honeymoon phase? Is that what you're saying? There were there will be lingering runs and stuff. Shout out to all the lingering. You are the people who believe what they believe. But for the most part, couple months, everyone most people will be back to their senses. And then a couple months into the season, it's going to be some guys that turn on their men. Yeah. Yeah. We We know we know who's the flipfloppers up here. It's going to be some guys that turn their back on Luca Donic. Yeah. Oh, I Yeah, I interpreted that sentence different.

Blackest Panther sent through $10 and said members pod was cool, but respectfully that Frank guy is slow as hell. I feel like he has two brain sales fighting for third place. Respectfully, # increase the price of podcast mics. Shout out to Penny the Platypus. I don't even think Frank did anything in the members only stream. He literally didn't even do anything. He was up there for like five minutes and really didn't say anything. But shout out Frank though. Frank, I don't think you're slow if it if that means anything.

man. That [ __ ] Frank came on. This [ __ ] drunk as a [ __ ] boy. Yeah. And he cooked too. I remember. Yeah. [ __ ] was drunk as a skunk. That [ __ ] just tripped out. He just went from zero to 100. YOU WANT TO YELL AT ME? GOD DAMN. which I wasn't yelling by the way. I know THAT [ __ ] YOU WANT TO YELL. I'M LIKE DAMN FRANK. YEAH, that [ __ ] Frank took a shot of that flash for that camera. Come on, boy. And that [ __ ] was over with.

All right, Tupac Westide. Tupac Westside sent through $10 and said, "Morning fellas. I'll knock out the first 10. SGA, Giannis, Wimi, Joker, Luca Cade, Aunt, Brunson, Jaylen Brown, Donovan Mitchell, and to the dads on the panel, have you ever taken your newborn in public without diapers?"

No. Hell no. You don't do that. [ __ ] happens. Hey. Hey. Waterboard. Waterboard position while you sleep is crazy as [ __ ] position while you sleep. [ __ ] got some imagination, but y'all liked uh Tupac's top 10. Y said too.

No. I mean I I don't I have disagreements as I would with every I don't hate it. It's just I don't agree with like some of those names over like a Kevin Durant for example. But all right, King Sean Black the basketball community that Jaylen Brown is a top 10 player in the NBA. Last year he was. I think I think the consensus is Jaylen Brown is Yeah, that's the consensus. especially from last year. Yeah. Good with the times. Real talk. So he better than he better than Kevin Rant. Last year he was. Yeah, See, that's the consensus. Last year he was. They don't really mean as a better player. I just think he played better. Pushing that propaganda cuz I was part of that prop. Yeah. You like how could people think this as you was the one. Yeah. But then I came to my senses. So I was expecting everybody else to that thought that. But you know. it is what it is. I think Jaylen Brown's better than KD. No, I I don't think KD is a better player. I'm just talking about who played better last year. I think it was Jaylen Brown. Better player and better season. people sore, but it's fine. You know what I'm saying?

All right. King Sean Black said, "No way." Swiper said Kawhai looked like the best in the world after a 45point game and still not taking captain clutch. He had better than Kawhai. No. I think we all had Jay. I feel we all had Kawhai. Yeah, it was five and six. It was I mean six and seven, I think. And just because you behind somebody, that doesn't mean that y'all close. Like the number one and the number two player could there could be a gap between them two.

I got 250 for Daffany Joy, too. By the way. you ain't lying. That [ __ ] boy, that [ __ ] talk to me on the phone all goddamn day. Real talk. I'll be on top of the washer and dry while she talking to me on the phone. [ __ ] boy. I'll be walking back and forth on the balcony, [ __ ] [ __ ] Ironing every suit in my [ __ ] closet, [ __ ]. This [ __ ]. you do got one of them voices. She got one of them voices, boy. Oh, man. Boy, I be laying in the bed folded up. Boy, y'all don't know what I be doing in the bed. That means I don't want to talk to her cuz she [ __ ] the money up. That's what she doing. for sure. I'll be in that. Look, I'll be in the bed. What you said, girl? Getting ready. All right. No cat prince.

Say that again. All you hear is the All you hear is the bottle going. What you say? Say that again. One more time. I could hear you. No cap. Prince said I just joined. Is there a criteria? If not, where is 30? Steph still top 10 in the league in my opinion. Yeah, when he's healthier all the way. That's how That's how I be getting the bottle trying to get that [ __ ] at the top right there. Yeah. Focus, Ron. Focus. That's why I didn't. Yes, you focus. You're the host. bro. I still He's still top 10 though when he opened, but he just didn't play enough games, unfortunately.

All right, the next looper chat was just sent through by my dog Nims Gast. Nims Gastup said, "Where would a healthy JDub fall in this order? Salute to you guys and have a good Father's Day to the fathers on the panel and in the chat. Appreciate you fellas." Where was Jub? We was having conversations last year about him being a top 25 player. Like he was better than Paulo. He's top 20. Yeah, we he was better than Paulo. And like who else did we say he was better than? Um. he was better than James Harden. I think like that was the conversation last year that we. definitely better than James. Yeah, we was having that conversation. He better than KD too. Yeah. He's in I think he's in that 125 range. I can't remember the exact names. I think he's in that range. We all agree that like healthy your your vision of healthy JDub is 24 25, right? Like nothing. I don't even count this year for Jaylen Williams to be honest with you when I'm thinking of him as a player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm with you. Yeah.

All right. Yak man 86 8681 said, "But y'all was stretching that SGA work." Stretching it. I don't know what that means. Me either. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what that means. Shout out to everybody that's stretching that SGA work. Uh, Vegan Yoda said, "Give pin credit. Scotty top 10. I used to deny myself, but there aren't 10 guys better than him." I think there is, but I think. I think he's 125. Yes. he made it. He was what, 13? I think so. Yeah. Scotty was 13. Yep. Yep.

All right. Next up. if I include Giannis and Steph as players who were bad at Sky Bonds and maybe Jason Tatum, too. Yeah. Okay. I think he was top 15 on this list, but in terms of like top actual player, then top 15 actual player, no. But Eddie gonna remind y'all this year. Don't worry. Yeah, he will. Hopefully he does. Yeah, hopefully he will. He will.

All right. Uh, the next super chat is from Truth Teller. Truth Teller says, "Shout out Drench for the dub content. Remember seeing his video on page posting up versus the sparks fire video." I I think I think that was her 44 point game on 80%. Damn. Oh yeah. Oh, that that he a real OG. That video was last year like a [ __ ]. Yeah, that was a old video. Yeah, she was that game. That's the game that's the game she posted up the whole damn game. Damn. She just post them little ass guards up and just had her way with them.

Hey, honestly, like with with you know Olivia doing her thing, I don't know if I have Olivia over Paige just yet. No. Hell no. Come on. We can't do that. I I guess we in trouble, Spanish Joe, cuz Dylan Harper did not make the list, sir. Sorry. That [ __ ] was supposed to make the list. Dylan Harpo is not a top 25 player in the Dylan Harper did not make the list. He did not have a top 25 season. So, relax. No, he didn't. Olivia Miles is better than Paige right now. It's close. Olivia, Paige, and Kelsey as the top three guards in a W. She might be slightly outplaying her right now. I just don't think she's I don't real talk just know it's a long season my boy. It's a long season. Oh yeah, for sure. But I mean y'all say but what what is Olivia doing that that doesn't look repeatable? Obviously not she's not going to shoot what she's shooting the entirety like there's probably going to be a slump. I agree with that. But like I'm saying how she's playing and what she's doing like she's getting to the basket. So, it's not even like the efficiency efficiency the efficiency or the and the accuracy probably does drop as the season goes on, but like she generates enough good quality looks for herself to where I don't see it falling off a cliff. No, but you can see Paige going to get better though too though. That's the thing. And they winning and the uh uh the Wings winning now too. So, you know, they had a little rough start, but I'm telling you, it's going to be a long season. You going to see Paige do some amazing [ __ ] and watch. You going to be like, "Hey, hey, I might have to reig my statement." Yeah. No, I'm high on Paige. Paige, Paige, one of the best scorers in the. I mean, not just score, one of the best players in the NBA. Oh, yeah. I'm just like highlighting her. To me, her strength is scoring.

Speaking of Speaking of scorer, speaking of scoring, real talk, I did not know that you was a Love Island fan. I did not know that. Hey, man. I'm trying to get in this Tik Tok algorithm. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. That's one of the top four things men should not be doing. Number one should not be having asthma. Number two, I love island algorithm. I'm sorry. No, real talk. What happened with a grown ass man should not have asthma, [ __ ] Breathe, [ __ ]. Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway, real talk. What happened with boy old boy from yesterday? You put a post out. What do you do? That's what that [ __ ] said. You said he likes sincere sincere medium. Sincere is a is an awful human being. Swipe. I don't know. I haven't seen this. bro. He he he played in this in this girl named Soul Face the whole time when she showed up to the villa, right? Mhm. No other homeboy really got to her. He was all over that. Then when he got to recoupling, he chose this OG couple anyway. and then sit her home talking about well she not really in no progressing relationship [ __ ] that's cuz you was hoging.

we doing NO [ __ ] REUNION we not doing THAT SO LOOK WATCHING WHAT SOUL LOOK LIKE. NO [ __ ] I'M STILL STUCK ON DAFANY JOY [ __ ] I'M STILL STUCK ON DAFANY Joy I'm still stuck on that phone call I'm LISTENING TO I THOUGHT I was GOING TO SLEEP AND I HEARD DAPANY JOY AND I woke up and rolled over when I heard her talking I'm Remember remember last year on Twitter the best day out the best day of the year my. Yeah. Hey sorry me that I'm watching a show where ladies is bouncing around the whole time. Excuse me. I'm not watching no [ __ ] like that man. Excuse me. That's on one of the top five things a man shouldn't be doing. We should be doing should be read. should be reading super chats, bro. Thank you very much. Thank you. Take that off screen. You You are right chill. Um.

Sleazy Tai said Braum was the best player in the OKC series and can't even get a mention. Bam Flag and MPJ shouts before Braun is wicked, especially since the playoffs are included. Dub PC, have a great weekend, y'all. My bad, Swiper. I meant to uh put real talk down, but you guys kind of just talking once again. I did bring up watch whatever you want. So I did I 100% brought up James. So the English Love Island is better by the way than USA. So just I'm not watching. I know Mars didn't see that [ __ ] so it don't even matter. We can't even get Mars recommendation. I don't watch none of this stuff.

All right, The next super chat is from with my crew. With my crew said Kawawaii vers Harden all time. I got Harden because of longevity/games played. Also what do y'all think is Keante sealing and is anyone leaving the panel? What you mean leaving the band? I I have Harden. Um I think I don't know what Keen is actually. I'm swiper told me I can't talk about him anymore. So um I'm going just say KFC. I like Isaiah Kanye though. Um And is anyone leaving the I mean. I don't know. We might we might have some house house. Yeah, I know who's getting packed up. Who get packed up, bro? Swiper has been a better host than me this year. So y'all, I got to take a back seat, you know. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. You you you've been taking some L's lately, but we love you. We're so. That man that [ __ ] goofy. That's what it is. That's what's going to get you traded, Rod. Ron, that's what's getting you. Hey, hey, when you filter in garbage minutes, that's when Swiper, you know, his advanced analytics, it goes through the roof. You know. Ron, I think I think I think Ron the real the real issue is I think real talk and agree with this is somebody you know him and Mars have a show reading is imperative to being the [ __ ]. I think that's that's you know that's the biggest thing Ron you know shout out to you know shout out to my dog man that's it.

so Ron do be adding words to some [ __ ] though I don't curse words. Mars had to be crazy [ __ ]. it was so bad today Mars said where did he come from I'm not even looking at the super chat so I'm thinking like the person that sent it didn't send it correctly And then Mar said, "Where did you get the heat from?" Then Ron went back and took the word out. Yeah. Ron do that a lot though. Ron be adding words to this [ __ ] a lot. But I. I have told you guys this and we've been down this lane a bunch of times. Ron is dyslexic. Yes, he's a number of different times. Right. So that [ __ ] lying. Dyslexic. You try to read something backwards. You try to read something backwards. Is lying. Being a person with dyslexia. That's like that buddy with one arm who went D1. Like at some point you're just in the wrong. You talking about my man Hansen? You talking about my man H? Yeah. Like no disrespect. Hey, you doing good with the materials you have. Wait for that [ __ ] is not reading that [ __ ] backwards. [ __ ] he can't read it forward. He ain't reading that [ __ ] backwards. I I in fact can read it forward. I have to read it backwards. Like that is [ __ ] is not reading that [ __ ] right to left. [ __ ] not reading Hebrew. [ __ ] he reading that [ __ ] in English. Hey, I'm actually fluent in Hebrew, by the way. That [ __ ] is lying like a [ __ ] You ain't fluent in English. Just like he told us he was too h how heavy did he say he was, Swiper? Two. What did he say he was? Two 210. Who? Ron. Yeah, he said he was. He said he was like 210 lbs. I'm like, "All right, man." Like, you going to see how heavy my fist is when I see both of y'all. Hey, hey, I will say I will say this though. I think that's Hebrew. Yeah, it's Hebrew, bro. When when I went when I went over there and I saw that [ __ ] on right to left, n my [ __ ] eyes start hurting. I'm like, "The [ __ ] they even they text messages is like right to left." Like I'm like, "This [ __ ] is weird as [ __ ] bro. There's no way I can do that." As you were saying, Ron. DSG Piccolo think um real quick, real let my man. Well, I was actually trying to speak to like the super chat. Hold on. Let Let me read it right quick. Ke George like Ben Gordon. Is that a good come? for Kante George. No. No. Keonna going to be better than him. I I agree actually. I think so. I don't know. Keonte got to show me that he at least is willing to not be the defense planet. Like right now I don't I don't know. I think he has a I think he can be a really good offensive player. I think he might give back most of that value on defense. So that doesn't work. Mars. If I'm giving up If I'm giving you 26 and I'm giving up 30, like you killing us. It's why the Jazz reportedly aren't willing to give him a rookie max extension. You killing us. Watch that [ __ ] go to another team and play hella defense. Look at the Utah Jazz. Will Hardy is in the huddle. Will Hardy is in the huddle. Like I'm sick of this [ __ ]. That was I was at the Rockets game. He said that [ __ ] I was like that [ __ ] was going off on their ass about playing hard. I'm like, hell, bro. These some grown ass men and he own that [ __ ]. Block out some damn defense. He's not even the worst defender on this team, though. So, I mean, this is kind of gas. I'm not going to lie to you. Who's the worst? Who's the worst defender who plays worse than him in and you. Hey, look. Shout out. Shout out to him. Shout out to Kyle Filiposki, man. Shout out to you, bro. Kyle is not a worse defender than Kate George. I think he's more detrimental for sure to them. But that's just my opinion. I've watched again, you know, I've watched a lot of Jazz games. That's my personal opinion. I'm I'm watch my personal opinion be watching a jazz games. I think Keante I think Kee. I watched a very minimal Jazz games I watched a bit too many Jazz games I ain't going to lie I watch like four or five. going to entertain him because No I Zact I watched like four or five of them all five of them [ __ ] just refuse to jog back on they just jog back on defense it's just a open kitchen and and I'm like bro I can't keep watching this [ __ ] that [ __ ] is a open kitchen if I was Will Hardy I'd be I'd be fighting them them young [ __ ]. bro they don't play hard at all them [ __ ] WAS LIKE THE CLIPPERS. YOU KNOW HOW EARLY IN THE year the Clippers was was playing slow and weak as hell? That's how that's how the Jazz. But when they when they get when they get good next year, they're all they're going to play defense when they all play together. I think the issue has been they've been so inconsistent with their the rotations in lineup. Either injury or they were just simply tanking like they have a there's a lot of stuff that goes into why I think next year they be next year again. Why Jackson and Walker Kesler if they're both. that's going to help. Yeah. a really good defensive front. It should be in theory and then they going to be more ass than a strip club. Watch. We going to be looking. Well, I don't think I don't think bad. Now, the rest of the ros I mean, you still got Keonte, Ace, probably Darren, but we'll see. You don't think Ace gonna get traded? No, I don't. I don't see why. I don't think so neither. I hope. I'm keeping all of them. I'm keeping all three of them.

All right, fellas. We got just a few more super chats, but I do want to shout out to I know a couple fine j. you never they're never getting off that Ron just so we clear. Okay, we never getting off that significance of him saying you posted it. You posted saying that. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen we I'mma keep this one in the tun said including playoffs and having Kade over Brunson is hilarious. It's okay though. It's okay though. Those that were at the parade know who's better. Once again, including the players over Brunson is hilarious. It's okay. Those that were at the parade know who's better. Shout your absolutely. Shout out. Shout out to winning. Uh I got a f I got a five pound super chat from Kareem Miles. He said Ron is the evil. Ron is the evil the holy books warned us about. I don't know if he's that evil. I'm not gonna go that far, but Ron is crazy. I'm not doing that. God damn. Ron do voodoo and [ __ ] at night. Got an evil bone on my body. [ __ ] Ron got Ron got his damn witchcraft board in his mirror out. [ __ ] Ron be playing mirror mirror on the wall and swiper pop up in his mirror. Go that far. So that [ __ ] trip you the [ __ ] out. So speaking of tripping, Alan R. Allen R or R would call him Allan L. Brown of the Jaylens at seven in the What is that? Humong. Humongous. I'm sorry. Brown of the J Brown of the Jaylen's at seven in the humongous. Humongous just seemed like a pause word. That man better be prepared to head to Cream City this summer. Hey. Well, I mean I I actually think that that's the uh that's I I actually think that that's the best deal that Atlanta Boston. I mean accord uh Milwaukee is getting a better player. Who the [ __ ] is back there getting doing that? Damn. Swiper, tell Chad to chill out. I don't know what you fed him this morning, but god damn. I don't know what you're talking about. There is no There is no sound over here. That's really That's really Mars. That's really Mars got that work. S on the subject that could do something. I get it. I get he didn't play enough. I get I get he didn't play enough games. But Drench I I get he didn't play enough games, but Drench not to not about to tell me Steph wasn't great this year. It was a tough. See, you see it be tough to read Super J. We No, no, no. WHEN YOU GET PUT A WHEN YOU GET PUT ON THAT STAGE in the spotlight.

All right, All right, let me read the next All right, let me read the next couple. Let me read the next couple. All right. Let me read the next couple there. Let me read the next couple there. I got it. I got it. Hold on. Let finish this one. Hold on. Hold on. Let you finish this one. You got the next one. I I get he didn't I I get he didn't play enough games. But Drench is not about to tell me Steph wasn't great this year. He was a top four offensive player and I'd say top seven overall. Is that true, Drench? Where was Top at? Huh? WHERE WAS TOP AT? RIGHT THERE. He was a top four. It say top four. Seven. The seven. No. No. Seven. The seven. Okay. Okay. Now you don't see Joe inferred a word based on what he has just read. Ron. Ron just be adding [ __ ] based on nothing. your super chat. Your super chat next. You just wait. All right. Cool. Come on. Come on. Here. Here you go. Here you go. Right here. This your super chat. See, I read it. I read it for you, [ __ ]. I read it. I read IT FOR YOU, BOY. PERFECT. Just read that super chat. What? Yeah. Aub want to be in sack. Also, Bucks, hurry up and get something done. Dundon. What that? Who is Dundon? Oh, nah, nah, no, I know. Dun Dun, you won NHL. Yeah, Dun Dun, you won NHL. Now give me a coach. Old [ __ ] Mars was SK keeper at fault. [ __ ] that's not hard to read. Yeah, I think Dundon or whatever is the Blazers new owner. The the guy. Oh. Oh, Dund. Okay. I think. Shout out Dund. I Yeah, I'm not watching South Korea play. You forgot to read the name, Jordan. Yeah, I don't even know. Oh, yeah. I got Swerve, 1100 199. OG better than a lot of these cats. He top 20. Is he? I'd rather have OG than like Austin Reeves. on my team. Yeah, I'd rather have OG than to Austin Reeves. If the Lakers could get OG over Austin Reeves, I'm pretty sure they would do that. Yeah, I think the Lakers rather have. It depends on the rest of my team. If you're the Lakers, you rather have OG, right? I can tell y'all right now, I ain't doing that abbreviation [ __ ] I ain't like Mars. Yeah, Detroit was like the only real serious team I could think of. Minnesota, I'd rather have Austin Re. I ain't I ain't gonna lie. No, I'd rather have OG if I was Minnesota, but I need another creator. I ain't going to lie and give me OGs is my. Oh my god. Hey, in that case, I'll be I'd be big enough Rudy in that case. Yeah, I'll go OG Rudy. and don't let Dante even tinsel be healthy. Mars, I ain't gonna lie. I'm not reading abbreviation [ __ ] I don't got no [ __ ] uh I don't got that damn that God on my side like you do for all the abbreviations in the world. That [ __ ] Mars know what every abbreviation mean. I never seen no [ __ ] like that. I'm locked in, man. I'm locked in. Everyone I think he means this. LIKE, [ __ ] HOW YOU KNOW? SPEAKING OF SPEAKING Speaking of uh seeing something, Ron, we got some new members. Show the list. I'm a perfect reading. You're welcome. Shout out. Shout out double agent 003. Um, we do have some new members. Before I read these members, there were a couple members that became members and your name accidentally got unstarred. So, if I don't say your name, you know who you are and I appreciate you for joining up as a member as well as everybody else that became a member. Um, W Y AI. I could try to abbreviate that, but your name is W A or W Y AI. Shout out W Y AI. Um, the next member is Wade Wade. Shout out to you, Wayey. Um, Raleigh J. Vincy. Correct. That's correct. R 2341. Shout out to Riley. Appreciate you for joining up, Riley. And last but not least, King Mosa 21 also joined up. Today was a crazy episode. Happy Friday to everybody. Happy Junth. Happy Father's Day. You guys got your top 25 players in the NBA. It is what it is. Win be the best. Deal with it. Lay it up. Lay it up. Lay it up. All right, y'all. Bye.