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So why don't you introduce yourself?
>> Yes, I'm KL and I'm 26 years old and I'm software engineer and I think seven months ago, no almost one year ago I I joined your program and it it finished six months ago. Uh yeah, it was a six months long uh course and yeah, I'm married. I play piano sometimes and yeah and it's two years that I'm living in Netherlands in Amsterdam.
>> Three years that time flies, right?
>> Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
>> For me it's almost or it's I think 10 years now. It's crazy how time flies. So
>> exactly.
>> What inspired you to join the leadership landing program?
Mhm. Um I was working in a company named IO and my colleagues and my team leads they were all of the southern talking about Soros course, agile course, leadership course and I was so curious about that and I followed you on the LinkedIn and I saw your posts and I felt connected to that because before that I also did some kind of mini courses about leadership. So, it was really what I really wanted and yeah, that inspired me to sign up for the course.
>> Nice. Nice. So, all of those posts I make on LinkedIn are worth it then.
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> So, uh where were you in your personal or professional growth journey before starting?
H actually professionally I was I could say I was successful in my in my work and I I was a good software engineer but I was really passionate about being a good leader but I didn't have the authority in my position to be a leader. So I was reading some kind of words like self leadership and first you need to lead yourself and live authentically and find your vision and this kind of things. So I thought that um that was that was my situation back then before signing up for the course. So I was passionate but I didn't know that much about leadership.
>> Okay, great.
>> And um what did the words leadership or impact mean to you then? And what do they mean to you now?
Yeah, back then I was thinking leadership is about leading people to a certain point or certain goal. But now I think leadership start from within and first you need to find your authentic self and face your fears and then try to not go on the automatic mode and uh yeah I think leadership start from there and at the end you will find yourself in a way that you can help other people like like yourself. about for example 3 years ago and you can help them in that way. So that is the impact right now I am uh I think I'm empowered to do. So one of the things I was dealing with was shame and now I have more tools and more power to help other people with shame. So but this journey is is an ongoing journey for me. So right now I'm in the middle of that I think.
>> Oh lovely. And um you say something really important there. It's not about dragging others to an end goal. It's almost in a way like building up others to be leaders too.
>> Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you said it better than me. Yeah.
>> and uh which parts of the program stood out most? A session, a story, reflection or particular tool?
Mhm. For me, um I think um it wasn't only an informatic uh course, it was transformative uh course for me. I mean by that the reflections help me to see my blind spots and at the same time some distinctions like for example in the core values you you told us that core value is something you need to to grow something you need to self-actualize um so that distinction and then the reflection questions for example helped me to finally find my core values I was reading all the le all the time, but my lease after your course was really different than my before that, you know. So, I think the reflections and the metaphor for the dragons uh and the distinctions, this combination was the boldest for me.
>> Wow, nice. And was there any specific moment that shifted you and how you see yourself or your ability to influence others?
Yeah, I think um in the eeky guy practice in the eekuy practice after I think uh session four seven or eight I think.
>> Yeah, it was session seven I think. Yeah.
>> Yeah. After lots of reflections, knowing our personality, fears and everything, finally I could have find something that I can enjoy and at the same time earn money with that. And all of the sudden my desperate being of uh finding my purpose uh became to the very interesting moment for me that I I could finally say if someone asked me what is your purpose in life I can say I want to be a source of self-actualization for myself and all other people around the world. So this simple sentence changed my life and right now it's about 7 months I'm following that. So I can maybe even after the meeting give you some update about that.
>> Yeah.
>> And I I'm actually um I I remember uh you in that moment. Um I even remember you in the checkout. Uh
>> you were in awe like
>> everything just kind of like clicked together and
>> it was almost like a big weight had been lifted off of your chest. Um so I I still remember it. Um
>> so I think that is uh the the shifting moment for you
>> and
>> which framework or exercise do you still use today?
Uh for example the values map uh the dragon metaphor you just mentioned um uh anog uh shifting uh cycles uh um uh worthy goals any framework that uh we use.
>> Mhm. I think I use worthy goals the 3s for stretching and stimulating significance. I use that every time that I want to move toward my visions to have worthy goals. And I remember a distinction for a stretching that it shouldn't be uh for example not a stretching or too stretching or you will be ripped off and this kind of a stuff. So, so the worthy goal if I want to be summarizing it and I double check my echosycle planning because sometimes I think I'm overcommitted to lots of things that I need to disrupt them then start new things. So I think these two are my daily or weekly tools that I'm using. But about the eeky guy, I didn't change that after that. So it was a onetime thing. And about the core values, I review them every three months to see based on the situations how it works. And about the fears, I think my day-to-day thing is my courageous conversations with others and also with my dragons.
>> Yeah.
>> And uh it's interesting that you mentioned that you uh revisit values. Um a lot of people think values are stagnant. Of course, they don't change as quickly as behavior or uh convictions, but they do shift um as you grow. So, as you evolve, as you uh integrate with your dragons, uh it could be that you don't need something from your environment anymore because you're provided by yourself.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Exactly.
>> Uh so, uh the way that you say it, um also how you don't really visit the icky guy often. uh that's something you don't change often. It's your reason for being, right? That that's that's quite solid. It's it's uh based from your core. So um yeah, it's beautiful to to hear uh um because the let's say the amount of time that you use the different frameworks are pretty much how you should be using them. Um so it makes me feel good to hear you say it like this.
Mhm.
>> Um, how has your approach to creating impact with colleagues, friends, uh, or your community changed since completing the program?
>> I think I developed um, a kind of empathy because of the path I've gone in the course. I I saw my own fears, how they are controlling me, how I go to the freeze or flight mode. Um it brought some kind of empathy to others when they're acting in some way that is I don't like them. Um and also about the impact it helped me to have better communication by courageous conversations because um I was too afraid to share what I think about something or how how a situation is not appropriate for me that I would have missed opportunities to perform. So I was hiding myself before the course but after that right now I did