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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast.
Cut your pants on fire! Tell me a G, tell me or a liia. Trust me, I have spent my morning sat in my makeup chair watching BFF's pod. Same! I don't know how the hell we're supposed to wait till the first story to talk about it. Like seriously, [ __ ] that square-headed [ __ ]! I hate that ugly loser so much, and I am so proud—so [ __ ] proud! I never liked him, and I never turned on Ban Leag like you other snitches did.
Now I see everyone on social media like, "Oh Briana, [ __ ] you!" You were the ones who turned on her! I didn't! Okay? You know what? It feels so good to be on the right side of things.
Well, I still have like 20 minutes left in the pod, but I've got the G. No, no, by the way, she tells the craziest story! You'll have to tell me two stories at the end, okay? You'll have to tell me when we talk about it.
So, I haven't even gotten to like what's social media's reaction. Like, I have no idea what people are saying. Like, are people riding with Bri? Of course they're like, "Oh, you know," and she has... I mean, should we get into it? Like, no, just finish this conversation, and then we'll get into like what she said in the podcast and the [ __ ] she said on the podcast. Like, that she really lost herself.
If you see, look at her social media. Like, you can see like the girl that she was before this relationship is not the girl that she is after it and during it. And everyone's like, "Oh, you know, I loved Briana." Like, I really see that. You know, like I did unfollow her because I—like you were on the hater train and I wasn't. Like, this feels... it feels good to know like I'm not like some of these [ __ ] you know?
Yeah, no, I'm so proud of her. The $12 million thing—I was at dinner last night at Jackie. Wait, we have to wait! Like seriously, I'll segue, I'll segue out.
Um, because I was at dinner last night when Margo—we were like both just like waiting for 8 o'clock, but we went to dinner at 7:45. And like Mar was like, "Oh my God, he offered her $12 million in an apartment in New York and a house, and she turned it down." And I was like, "Okay, just stop!" Honestly, I was like, I didn't know he had that much money!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely something people are talking about too. I haven't put a red cent in his pocket. Yeah, that's another thing to feel good about—like did not contribute to the richification or the famousification of Zack Bryan one iota over here, right? So our hands are clean.
We are going to dive into the full podcast recap in part in story one of the day, I assume. I mean, we are going to be doing Queenie and Weenie, although it's just so clear. It's so clear! But maybe we'll have to even do the segment as like a slap in the face to the common sense of our listeners.
It's true, but maybe we'll have like more to add as we anoint. Yes! And I actually was only able to watch the podcast this morning because last night I was at the theater. Have you ever been to the famous Apollo Theater?
Yes, you have! It's Uptown! Yeah, it's in Harlem. What did you see there?
Darius Rucker! Oh, classic! Well, the Joan Rivers tribute show that I went to last night was at the Apollo. And they—like when Brian said, "I have tickets, do you want to come?" He sent us the poster, and there was like a lineup of people—like a pretty decent lineup.
So I was really excited, but they didn't put anybody on the lineup like who was actually there. It was star-studded, and it was all filmed for NBC. There were cameras everywhere. They didn't say exactly what it's going to be.
Who were the stars?
Tiffany Haddish, Chelsea Handler, Nikki Glaser, Joel McHale. Who else? Who else? Who else? I don't want to spoil it for when it gets televised. And like a bunch of other comedians who, like, you know, and like big, big stars.
Yeah, the big names! Yeah, yeah! It was shocking to see.
That's a really good qu! Aubrey Plaza was there! So, and I knew this, and I was being such a know-it-all. Like, because between every comedian, they had like a package. It was a big screen, and it was like archival footage of Joan. It was a combination of like so much stuff from her documentary.
I was literally like, honestly, if you asked Tlor Johny, she wished she sat next to someone else. I was literally finishing the sentences! I'm like, but so much of the show was about—did you tell her how we had walked through the apartment?
No, no, I didn't actually. You didn't? You'll have to text her!
Yeah, yeah, yeah! But really, the whole show was kind of built around the fact that like Joan wrote so many jokes, and she had this crazy [ __ ] system. It's in the documentary. She like put them all—she would write jokes, and once they were done, she would put them in this filing cabinet. She would type them up on index cards and file them based on different categories.
And they were just like reading some of her jokes, and Aubrey Plaza did a whole segment of like Joan jokes that haven't aged well. It was like really funny.
And then, so the whole event was for charity. It was for God's Love We Deliver, which is if you watch the documentary, Joan's like favorite charity, which started as an organization to like send meals, medicated meals to AIDS patients. And now it's like for the whole city. If you're elderly, if you're sick and you don't have meals, like they deliver meals.
And so they were auctioning off some of the OG index cards for—and the starting price for an index card was $5,000! Like I was—I was going to like auction, get involved, but then they were like starting price $5,000. I'm like, for an index card? That's really crazy!
I know! So somebody—B—oh, you know who bought the first one? Sitting right in front of me—Lorraine Schwartz!
Oh wow, a designer! What did one go the most for?
Nothing! So literally nobody was bidding! Like they should have started at like $1,000!
Yeah, because after a while, Lorraine Schwartz was like, "Okay, I'll do it." Then the second one, like nobody did it, and I saw some producer raise his hand. So they obviously like just to keep the show moving.
And then the third person they gave out to free for someone in the audience. Like it was—they—I didn't want to be cheap, but if they were like $5,000, $5,000, I would have—I wanted to be like a thousand! I would have spent a thousand!
Like, yeah, they should have started at $100 for charity! Like you overpay, but $5,000 for an index card? Like it's—of which there are thousands!
Well, there she—in her career wrote 77,000 jokes. There are 7,700 index cards! So—and that would mean the value of all of the index cards is 77—no, it's not a value because it's not like a real value. It's for charity, so it's like it's all obscene, obscenely overpriced.
But they weren't auctioning off 77,000 of them, just three of them. But like just the—it’s still—it’s about value! Yes, you might overpay because it's for charity, but like it's based on the value of something.
Well, you really can't put a price on—honestly, if they were auctioning off the one card that she read in her documentary when she's explaining to the documentarian like all these different jokes, she pulls out a random one. It is so funny! She's like, "Why should I learn how to cook so my husband can say my wife makes a great roast to some hooker?"
If they had pulled that one, because I literally remember that, you could buy that for $5,000 and get it framed!
Yeah, I would! But the jokes I'm reading, they kind of gave away like three not great ones.
Oh, the curation! You didn't answer my question—who was the best person?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! Let me really truly think.
You could even say two if there were like two really great people.
Oh, sorry! Nikki Glaser! It's actually insane how Nikki Glaser like is the funniest [ __ ] on the planet!
Like, and she really—she went—the thing is, Joan, if you're like a female comedian, like Joan means so much to you. That was coming through from everyone. Even Chelsea Handler was like, "My entire career, I have been, you know, everyone compares you to Joan, and it's like the greatest honor you could ever."
And then Nikki Glaser was like, "Everybody compares me to Joan," and I'm like, "Not in a physical way!" Right? She was being really funny, and it was like it was interesting to see people toe the line between being funny but being really genuine and like really sincere because Joan means so much to female comics.
And like Nikki really—it—and she was—she talked a lot about like Joan's plastic surgery and like her openness about that and like how she gets made fun of for it. But like at the time when she would talk about it, it was so, you know, out there and crazy.
And now like everybody lying to you like saying they drink a lot of water because they have like a perfect face is like Joan. Joan was just different.
And what was so great is like these little packages between—remember a couple of years ago we did a story that like somebody bought all the archival like comedy stand-up footage of Joan, and they were like going to do something with it?
I feel like maybe this is part of that because I was like watching clips from her stand-up from her old late-night show that I have never seen. It was—that was the best part! I was like, can we get more footage of that, please?
So I'm sure they're going to put it all together and make it like a nice special, and it was—it was excellent. It was just nice to see like somebody getting their— I feel like we're always honoring people who like stink. Joan was that [ __ ]! Joan was a queen!
Like it was—and she would have loved being like revered like that because she had, you know, she was very—she had a chip. She had the chip of chips that like she wasn't taken seriously and like really respected for the icon that she was.
And I loved that they had—like she is really respected, but it's still not enough like for what she is and what she was. Like she doesn't get enough respect. Could never enough respect!
Most of the comedians there like had met her and had stories about her, which was so nice. You see like Joel McHale and Chelsea Handler went back-to-back talking about like that time at E! where everybody was like working in the same studio, and Joan was like actually a delight and like a pleasure to work with.
And then Melissa Rivers closed the show with this like letter that Joan had written like, "If you ever do honor me, please read this." Like, and it was really funny.
So, oh, and it was star-studded!
Oh, but the craziest thing is that literally we're about to—the show's about to start. Me, B, sit down. Someone taps me on my shoulder. I turn around—who is it? My mother-in-law!
Said you!
Oh, what? What? And she brought me a snack! She knew I was going to be there, but she didn't tell me she was going to be there! She brought me a snack!
She was going to be there?
No, we were shocked! I think she like wanted to surprise us, but she had tickets, and we had tickets.
Um, Jen, I—what's her name? Lanela Seps was there. Lorraine Schwartz was sitting right in front of me. It was like really—it was very like New York theater crowd. It was fabulous!
And I had never been to the Apollo before. It's really like—I knew it was special!
Yeah, it is! And it's gorgeous inside!
Yeah!
Um, so that's what I did last night, and then ran home and started watching a little bit of BFFs, but it was late, so I watched most of it this morning.
Yeah, I watched all of it this morning, and I can't believe there's so much juice at the end that I didn't even get to see! But I was out last night, and then when I got home, I might have started to watch it, but then I saw what was going on in Amsterdam, which we need to talk about.
And I had nothing but a pit in my stomach and didn't want to watch anything like fun or funny.
Pittsville, USA! You might not have seen what happened in Amsterdam last night because, like per usual, like nobody gives a damn about the Jews. But, um, there was a pogrom in Amsterdam last night. The Tel Aviv Maccabi soccer team was playing a soccer match in Amsterdam against Ajax, whatever that is.
So a bunch of Israelis flew to support their team. There was like—people knew that, you know, lots of Israelis were in town, right? And they were staying in hotels, and like a group—like many groups, I think it was maybe like hundreds of extremists—like organized. It was very organized, is what they said.
Like organized outside of train stations. Like as soon as the fans came out of the stadium, they were like hiding in alleys and like cutting off entry points outside of train stations, outside of hotels where they knew the Israelis were staying.
Ambitiously, physically, violently attacked Jews—stabbing them, running them over with cars. Some of them jumped into the canal while the others stood there.
Um, and it was—stabbing people are still missing. Israel had to send two passenger planes to literally pick people up to get the [ __ ] out of there. The police were doing nothing.
Um, the whole time, if you watch the videos, they—and they filmed themselves. It was very like October 7th style, very Hamas-coded. Yeah, they're filming themselves like making these Jews say "Free Palestine." They're saying, "This is what—" for what's going on in Gaza.
So this is what happens when you globalize the in—it's just beautiful, isn't it? Bella Hadid's dream!
And it's—it was so, so upsetting to see. Like, and then waking up this morning and see how like American news reports it. Like the New York Times say "vicious anti-Semites." I [ __ ] hate that!
It's a soccer—like, fight! It was a soccer, um—yeah, they make it seem like, you know, when someone goes to a football game and they beat up a fan? Like, that's not what it was at all!
No, not at all! It was very coordinated. It's like, you know, just BL anti-Semitism again. But anti-Semitism is not related to anti-Zionism. They're breeding Jews and telling them to "Free Palestine." But no, no, no! It's just a conflict about land, right?
No, if you are a Jew living in Europe, like it's so dramatic to say, but like get the [ __ ] out! Like seriously! I mean, we've always thought that, but this is one step further.
It's at that a Jew can't visit Europe because it wasn't like Jews living in Amsterdam, you know?
Well, we'll be okay! We'll be okay! They don't even have air conditioning over there! Come to America! It's great here!
Yeah, um, no, that you can't even go to a soccer game in Amsterdam! Like, and there were so many comparisons drawn to like Anne Frank. That's the city that she grew up in!
Like, and we know how her story ended. And that like Amsterdam is in safer Jews in 2024 to live or to even visit? Yeah, is so crazy!
Like, Europe is so far gone!
Yeah, do not go! And do not come!
Do not go! Do not go!
That was really upsetting. And even more upsetting to like wake up and then see like how it's being spoken about. I mean, people don't know, and if they do know, they think it's like a soccer kerfuffle.
Yeah, like I knew about it like from our family chat, so like then I went looking to see what's going on. And like you really have to go like deep in X and like find the tweets of people who are sharing this stuff.
But it's not like headline news where it's everywhere you go. Like it's very possible that you didn't even hear about this yet, and it's so important that you do because it was like serious, like 1930 style pogrom.
That's what they used to be called like back in Germany, back in Russia when like gang violence would like organize themselves and attack Jews, attack Jewish businesses. And last night it was Jewish soccer fans, Israeli fans.
So much so that Israel had to send two rescue planes to get the people out of there, and the police were doing nothing. They broke into the hotel where they were staying, throwing fireworks into the windows of hotels, beating up fathers with their children, beating up women.
Don't you care about women?
It's—don't you care about women?
No, you don't! It's disgraceful!
Um, it was really hard to watch, and like I'm—I'm sorry, like trigger warning. No, this is happening! The footage is beyond graphic! These filmed by the people who did it, they are so proud they weren't caught! They were proud!
So that happened, right? So that's why I didn't watch BFFs last night till this morning.
Yeah, I didn't want to like do you know ruin the experience.
Like I didn't want to associate the two. So then this morning while I got ready, I watched my BFFs, and it's the perfect thing to watch.
Oh, okay, I'm just going to say one thing and then let's just get into it, okay?
Um, I do have some notes production-wise, like get together! Were you in a Hamas tunnel? Like what was with that? The quality—I was shook from Josh Richard's like hotel room blurry!
I can't believe they—the remote setup like was really pretty seamless, but I can't believe they didn't get together. Maybe they got together for the first one that they kept alluding to.
No, I can believe that they didn't get together because for the most part they don't. But like wherever Bri is, like she has been in this house that I guess she was referring to a lot. She had like a full studio.
Josh always goes to Studio LA, Barstool Studio.
No, I'm saying up until this point they never record in person, and it's completely fine. Like they all really—the three of them have premium setups.
That it's—it's seriously like The Toast. Like, but for the fact that it's fine that they weren't together, but two out of three of them were—where the hell was that?
Was the scariest looking studio?
B, Milan! Because he said he got on a PL to Milan when Bri called him, but like he didn't even bring a podcast microphone! He was using his wired headphones!
Like I was shocked! Even though the quality was fine of the audio, the video was really blurry!
Um, and Banna was like in a professional studio! Like, uh, hello? A light?
Yeah, I was shocked!
No, but that BFF's pod—so much information in the podcast! So let's get into it!
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Our first story—BFF's pod X Zack Bryan! Brian Chicken Fry sat down to tell her story about the last year or so of her life with Zack Bryan, the last two weeks since they've broken up, and where we're at now.
So I think the biggest—the main theme from the podcast is that in the last few weeks since they broke up, his team has offered her $12 million to sign an NDA and not speak about the relationship, plus a house and an apartment in New York.
The money would have been paid out over three years. She went back and forth with deciding whether or not to take the money, as did Dave and Josh. They did not know how to advise her.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting that she was like leaning on them. And you know, it's smart! Dave is a smart person, especially when it comes to money. So I thought that was wise of her.
In the end, she decided not to take the money, and I think that really shocked a lot of people.
Um, and I think it also shocked a lot of people who maybe have never been in a relationship like that because, you know, $12 million is $12 million!
Um, but—and I was reading because someone in The Toast was like, "Would you have taken the money?" And all these people were commenting, and everyone was like, "Honestly, yeah!" But then people were like, "No, I've been in a relationship like this, and like there's no amount of money that like you can't put a price on your own freedom."
Like when you're out of it, like no amount of money is even enticing to you. Like to have your voice stripped from you is so—you were in a relationship for a whole year where your voice was stripped from you.
So like I think it's really unbelievable to a lot of people. Then a lot of people are like, "Well, she's rich, she's famous." And actually, Barstool notoriously like pays their talent like not a lot of money.
If she was a podcaster and an influencer like free of a Barstool contract, she probably would make a lot of money. But she makes a salary from Barstool that I'm sure is, you know, generous, but it's not what people probably think someone at that level makes.
Um, so many interesting things! I mean, him—when her Barstool contract was up, and he offered her double the money to not work there.
Yeah, just to like, I don't know, lay around, follow him.
So proud of her that even in the relationship when she was still like under his spell, that she said no to that because that was shocking!
He was making her like hate—she said herself her job, her co-workers. So I'm so glad that she said no to that.
But I also think dollars and cents-wise, of course, like you don't want to take the money because I can't be bought, and like my story and my truth, like you can't silence me.
But I also think when you break it down, like $4 million over three years for an influencer at her level—I know she has a Barstool contract, but I think Dave is going to be very generous with her.
He said he would buy her Bronco. He said he would give her the money. I think all made from yesterday's episode will go to Chicken Fry LLC.
There was a lot of ads, and I have some notes for Dave on reading ads, but yeah, there was Game Time, there was Raising C, there were also YouTube ads.
Yep, I think they made a lot of money on that episode. I think it will all go to her. Maybe even all the diss track stuff would go to her. I think she'll make a lot of money.
And we read the creator list recently, and if you're a pretty big size creator, you can be making about like $2 million a year if you're decent at the job.
So like I think over time she can out-earn that money. But if she had signed it and she didn't tell the story, and as Dave said, like BFF's pod was going to end soon anyway, and especially if she didn't share anything about the breakup because she couldn't, I think that would affect her career in the same way that the last year affected her career where she wasn't being herself.
And it really affected the BFF's pod. I was shocked to hear them say that!
Like I received that like just as a consumer. I feel like it kind of fell off a little bit. But for Dave to say like, "Yeah, we were going to end it," one, 'cause like I'm a little too old to be talking about like internet drama, but like two, like we weren't like doing much.
Yeah, yeah! So I think that if she signed the NDA and like didn't share the truth, that it would affect her earning potential because people were sort of like waning in their interest from her.
And well, that's the other thing! That's what's so [ __ ] up about this whole thing is like he made her into a version of herself that like the internet hated.
And if you could like—the reception on TikTok before she started dating Zack Bryan and now after is so different!
Like she really—like that's valuable! That's part of your job! How people see you, how they engage with you, how they follow you.
And like for him to have stripped that from her, like he really—so textbook abuse! And like isolating you from your friends and family, from your career, from your job.
It's so many things that he stripped from her, and the fact that she's only been out of it for two weeks and she's able to see it so zoomed out, Jackie, she's 25!
Yeah! Like she's very—well, first of all, extremely smart and well-spoken. But like just to see these things, like I think it takes some people months and years to really kind of zoom out and understand what they went through and dissect random moments, being like, "Oh yeah, that was abuse, that was narcissism."
Like she kind of like woke up in an instant, and it's beyond impressive how mature she is for her age!
I was shocked when I found out she was 25!
Yeah, very, very mature! And also, like I liked what she said when it's like, "There's obviously stuff about him that he doesn't want out there because that's what the $12 million is for."
Like whatever he's struggling with, whatever, you know, even just a lot of things. And she was like, "I didn't take—not take the money so I could like tell all his secrets. I didn't take the money so I can say what happened to me, what I experienced, and I could like go forth and tell my story."
But she's not spilling his and sharing all the dirty details about him. And that's why like she really is being so respectful about it as much as she can while also like she had a public relationship, she's having a public breakup.
And so she—if she wants the public like to care for her still and like be invested, like she also has to do that last chapter, which she wouldn't have been able to do.
And if there wasn't that, then that's not what being an influencer is!
No, 'cause she still is protecting him! And she's not, you know, when you break up with someone—she even protected him by telling us that he called them idiots and not our words!
Yeah, that was interesting! And you could see when she read the text, when Dave read the text at a screenshot, she's like holding her head because she's like—she's even protecting because now people know he uses that word!
And like for him to have gone up to—like if you would have asked me like how much money do you think Zack Bryan offered Bri to like not talk about the—I would have said like maybe $2 million.
The fact that it was $12 is indicative of something greater, right? And she's not—but he's such an idiot because if he had just ended the relationship with a modicum of decency and respect, she obviously has a lot of love for him.
She would not have gone—she would have probably continued to protect him and talked about it in her personal life, but that's it!
He's such an idiot to do the whole thing via text! Treat her—speak to her so [ __ ] disgusting!
Even when they're showing screenshots, get your [ __ ] out! Like [ __ ] monster!
Like if he had just acted with the smallest bit of grace, we would not be here! We would not be having this conversation!
And he wouldn't have even needed to pay her! He could have even like broken up with her, went to Oklahoma, had the conversation over text, just not in on Rya, let her announce the breakup when she wanted to, and let her like go forth and heal!
But yeah, it would have saved him $12 million potentially!
And then also whatever this is about to do to his—she gave him a lot of rope, and he hung himself with it!
Like he is so dumb!
I—every little window into who he was—okay, so you didn't get to this story. It was—I can't believe they saved it to the end! Jackie, it was so shocking!
Two things! One, you know one night, one morning, she woke up and was singing, "Last night we let the liquor talk," and literally they didn't talk for a week!
You singing someone else's song in my house, in my apartment that I paid for? Like [ __ ] crazy lunatic!
Okay, oh my God! But this other story like is really—and all the stories she told are obviously something that she's comfortable sharing.
She—and when she—in the first clip, she was talking about how there was a night in, I think December, she was like, "Unspeakable things happened."
I don't know what happened, but like I feel like she's still not sharing like really what—what—like I wouldn't be surprised if there was different forms of abuse.
Like because she—she wasn't sharing all that, but the story she told at the end, like December being like 11 months ago, I was having a hard time with the timeline.
I know, so was I! Hold on! December being 11 months ago? We're only in November!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!
Okay, so it's her birthday, he's on tour, you know, and as a gift, he like rented this like huge house on the water in New Hampshire for her family and her friends and her to all go.
And then he's like, "I'm going to come," and she's like, "Oh, okay, great!" And then like the whole time leading up, he's like complaining like, "I'm going to be tired, like I work so hard."
She's like, "Don't come, please don't come!" Of course he comes! The first night they're doing like, you know, bonfire and beers, like chill, you know, she's like kind of like earthy like that.
All of her friends are sitting around, they're sitting around the fire, and like she could just tell like it's going to be bad. He is like making little jabs at people, like not being the kind of boyfriend.
And she was like kind of panicked about it, so she was like, "Okay, I'm going to bed." It was 11:00.
Um, and she thought he would follow her, and he didn't. So she goes upstairs, and she does go to sleep. She's just like, "I can't, I can't handle this."
She wakes up an hour and a half later like screaming, smashing glass, like what the [ __ ] going on? She runs downstairs, everyone's like hiding in the basement, all of her girlfriends hysterically crying, and she's like, "What the [ __ ] going on?"
She looks outside, her aunt—like her old lady aunt is like holding him back, like trying to get him to calm down. Apparently, like while they were all sitting at the bonfire, like he just snapped!
Like nobody was doing anything! He snapped! He's like, "You're all low lives! You'll never accomplish anything in your life! I'm successful, you're not!"
Like probably like having a chip on his shoulder that he paid for this house!
Like I literally don't know! And she was like, "I couldn't even go out there! Like when he would get like this, like you just—there's no coming back from him! You kind of have to just like let him deactivate."
But all of her friends were like filming him just to like have on record for Briana, like this crazy toxic abusive behavior! Huge fight, whatever!
He goes back on tour, she comes with him, and like the fact that her friends had filmed him like obviously had really bothered him.
She was like, "That's why they offered me so much money—part of it! Like I have all this footage!"
Like, okay, from nights like this!
Yeah!
Um, but every time for like the next couple of weeks following that event, like when they would be together, he would walk—literally walk off stage onto the bus to see her and like start filming her!
You like that? You like when I film you in your private—like [ __ ] crazy!
[ __ ] crazy!
Oh my God!
Yeah, so was a story she told at the end! Everybody was just sort of like, "Wow!"
Like the reception—I mean, there's nothing to say! I thought that Josh and Dave did a good job of like being supportive, but like there's no correct way to respond to something like that!
Yeah, yeah! They did a really good job of being supportive while also like being angry on her behalf, and she wasn't angry! She was just sort of like sad!
Yeah, no! Oh, and by the way, and I'm glad she addressed it—she looked frail! Like the light from her eyes had died! She looked so thin!
I—and she was like, "I lost 15 pounds that I did not have to lose!"
Like she's always been a very skinny girl! My first thought when I saw her was like her bones are sticking out of her jeans!
Yeah! And like that's what a relationship like that does to you, right?
And that's what happened in the relationship! And then the last two weeks have also been really hard!
Like—and also asking yourself like the biggest question of like the money versus—and the thing is, even if she had taken the money, like I wouldn't—it's not like I—I mean, one, we wouldn't know, but two, I would not judge at all!
Like she said she doesn't come from much! Like her family will never see that amount of money in their lives!
That was—that was really sad to hear! Like talking about how like turning down that type of money, like her family was like—family, the money!
She grew up vacationing in like a trailer park! Like this is somebody who did not grow up like this!
So you have to be incredibly principled and scrupled to turn that kind of money down and—and like look your parents in the face and—and them telling her to take it is completely understandable!
Yeah! Like it's not like a hypothetical! Like that's real money!
And she said, "I was ready to take the money, and I was like ready to sign, and they actually slow and sending me everything and weren't going to send me the money like that day."
That's why Dave was like, "Send her the money!" And in that moment, like she was like, "Okay, never mind!"
So if they had moved faster, she said they're stupid! If they had moved faster, like it would have been done!
Yeah! I can only imagine like what he's really truly hiding! Obviously, there's some sort of alcohol abuse!
I imagine you get violent when you drink! Like there's—your mind goes to a million places because she's not really sharing!
Like I think the worst of it!
Um, even though the stuff she's sharing is so [ __ ] horrible!
I hate this [ __ ] guy! He better hope we never run into each other!
Like I'm throwing hands!
I—and so ugly to act like that! Like I'm sorry! You can't act like that if you're that ugly!
If your head is that square, you can't!
Yeah! And you know he's not five! He is not!
Right! He paid off that site! He paid off that website because so many people were like, "I take pictures of him! I'm 5'7! He's literally 2 inches taller than me!"
Okay, so we short square-headed [ __ ]! I [ __ ] hate this guy!
Like I was actually—and this isn't a situation like I can relate to, so I don't know if this is the right word, but I was actually triggered like listening to it!
Just—it's so textbook! It's also like imperceptible, right? It's not like she walked into a room with a bruise on her face!
So it's like you're not being abused! It's abuse! It's really mental abuse! It's emotional abuse!
Like it's so hard! Psychological! You know, hot and cold, and you don't know what you're going to get, and you're walking on eggshells!
And then the amount of love that you get kind of like ties you over for the next time! And even when it's bad, you're like, "Well, I know the love part is coming, so like let's just weather the storm!"
As she ate him fame and millions of dollars! Like that's really [ __ ] with the dynamic too!
And they're both famous! And like she's got her own thing going that he can like wield against her!
Yeah! Anything that brought her joy made him sick!
Oh, I mean the Golden Globes!
Yeah, dress! The tour! That's what ended their relationship!
She took two weeks to do her tour after being on tour with him for a whole [ __ ] year!
And he couldn't do that! And I'm like, not only could he not, he was supposed to be with her! That was the plan!
Like that was their—and like that—that's what's equitable in their relationship! A year for him, two weeks for her!
Sure! Okay!
He couldn't be with her! He couldn't even just stay home!
Yep!
Yeah, I obviously I'm kind of well-known for my takes on cancel culture. Just know like when I talk about cancel culture, I'm not talking about this!
Like this is the exception! Like seriously, I want him—his record label to drop him!
Like—and I know this will make seriously no impact on his career!
Like as a male rock star, like this is the sort of behavior you just—you let it slide!
But he has so many female fans, and it was those female fans that like really tortured Banna over the last year!
Like making horrible videos about her! And like I—I want him done!
I never want—like I hate—I'm sorry! Like you are an abuser! You don't get to like be famous anymore! Stop it!
I do really wonder how this will affect his career!
I—I don't—he won't be dropped by his record label or anything like that, but like I wonder how it will affect fans!
I wonder how it will affect his fellow artists at award shows!
Like Noah Kahn is not [ __ ] with him anymore, right?
But also like he seems like a [ __ ] piece of work! Piece of [ __ ]!
So like maybe he didn't have that many friends to begin with!
But oh wait! And then we have to talk about Rose and Deb!
So Rose is his ex-wife, okay? And then Deb was the girlfriend that he dated before Banna, um, who like his fans loved!
I think she was a toaster because people used to be like, "Deb, Deb, Deb!" I was like, "Who's Deb?"
Um, and he broke up with her kind of now like looks really similar—like abruptly out of nowhere—started dating Brianna!
But Banna also maintains that there—he was broken up with her when they got—yes! That the timeline is totally co!
People said like they both broke up with their people, too! They both cheated!
Yeah!
Um, but now—no, I don't think when he got divorced from Rose, like he had—was liquid or famous enough to like pay her off!
But I do imagine that Rose, who has been radio silent—like she went—she's still like a content creator, so she went back to life, hair, makeup, like that's it!
Never once spoke about any—it's clear that like maybe she got a settlement of sorts!
And so I think Brianna feels like there are other women who weren't in the position that she was in to not take the money!
Like she can live and pay her rent and do things, you know?
That's—see, like he makes them move out of their apartments, come live in my house, and everything's in his name!
But it's like, yeah, we're moving near your family, so this is our house, our kids are going to live here!
But then boom! Get out! Get your [ __ ] and leave!
Like so someone who's not liquid like Brianna is—Brianna has a career—is [ __ ] screwed!
Yeah! So they—he kind of puts him in a position to have to take the money!
Why did Margo tell me that the other—the past girlfriend got a million dollars?
She told me that!
Is that what Margo said?
I don't know! Mar said—let me ask her where she—she knows this!
What happens when Zach lives in my house? I know stuff!
It's so true! And like I don't have to—and send TikToks!
Jackie just goes down to Margo's room!
I go to Margo's room! I'm like, "Pull up this one!"
It's TikTok hour! Everybody turn off the lights!
Here, Deb got $1 million!
I didn't hear that, but it's possible!
Margo just knows stuff! You know?
It's so true! She's so young and connected! She's probably talking to Deb for sure!
Now, not to make everything about me, but my immediate thought like this morning was like really just genuine pride that I never disliked Brianna, and I never liked SpongeBob Square Chin!
Like I am so real for that! Like real sees real!
And like I'm a forever fan of Banna now! Like she's got charisma! She's got talent!
I want the world for her! Like I need $12 million!
I could wipe my ass with $1 million! That's what I need from Banna!
Margo said she heard it in a TikTok! She's not sure how true it is!
Okay, got it! Okay, so spreading Margo spreading misinformation right now!
I need to know! Now I know I need to fact-check her!
I agree with you about Banna! Now it's on us!
Like people who are kind and loving—the women who—T—the women who were so excited, happy, joyful to tear her down because she—they were living—she was living a life that they could only dream of!
Meanwhile, it was a [ __ ] nightmare!
Now it's on us to fill up Brianna's wallet!
Like, subscribe, download, follow!
So true! I followed! I want to watch her tour documentary!
Everything! And get her back on Surviving Barstool!
It's now up to us to make her realize that she made the right decision because not only in her heart but also in her pocketbook, it will even out over time!
It's just really a also a reminder about the internet because I think that a couple of months ago, you would have looked at this person, you know, plucked by a rock star, living a dream, private jets, tour—like this guy, everybody wants him!
He's so ugly! They love him! They think he's so hot!
Literally, you would have thought like, "I would give anything to be her, to be this life!" It's a dream!
Meanwhile, she's living a [ __ ] nightmare!
Yeah! So it's important to remember when consuming other people's lives!
Like of course, what do they say? Like comparison is the thief of joy!
Like not only that, like you have no [ __ ] idea!
No! You have—you can't compare when you don't know the truth!
You're getting 10% less!
Yeah! I followed her for a while, and I remember she like posted like happy birthday stuff for Zack, like the most glowing, loving, like—enmesh for him!
For her too! Twin flame sort of thing!
I'm like, "Wow! A perfect relationship! Like how amazing!"
Yeah! So social media is not real!
But you should already know that!
And one thing everybody is fighting their own battles!
One thing that I hope she unlearns a little bit is she—she kept like taking responsibility!
She's like, "Cause she was telling a story about something crazy she did! She's like, 'And I went back, you know, and that's on me!'"
She kept like taking responsibility!
CU, I think she's been so beat down by the internet!
Like take accountability! Take accountability!
And so she's sort of blames herself a lot for like believing him, for loving him, for, you know, getting swayed by him easily!
And I think she really needs to like unburden herself from that!
Like that's what abuse is! Like it's literally not your fault! It's his!
Yeah! I think over time she will!
I think in two weeks, like you said, like she's already recognized it for what it was, which is like major strides!
And that will be part of the next like phase of her healing is recognizing that it wasn't her fault!
And that like this is what these people do!
And as much as it's like you have choices, like you could just leave!
Like she couldn't! Where is she going?
She couldn't! Like—and he made her feel like nothing without him!
He separated her from her family!
So I think eventually like she'll unlearn that!
But right now, that's where she's at!
Especially because she knows that the haters' response is going to be like, "Well, you could have left, but why? You’re the one who went back!"
So she's like, "That is on me that I stayed, that I went back!"
Eventually, I think she'll see like technically, yes, she had the choice to leave, but didn't really have choices!
Yeah!
I do wonder what this means for the future of the BFFs!
Like are they going to give it another go?
Well, they [ __ ] better until they make $12 million!
And then they can end the show!
Correct!
And so either they can wait till they make $36 million so that Bri gets her 12, or they can just give it all to Bri and wait till they make 12 and give it to Bri, and then they could move on!
I wonder how they'll do it!
Dave is really like—I know he gets so much [ __ ]—but he is such a generous person!
He really like rides so hard for the people that he cares about!
And I—I feel like he gets so much [ __ ] for being like misogynist, whatever!
Like he's always like the girl—the women that like work for him, he's like always doing right by them!
Like you couldn't ask for a better boss than what Dave is doing for her, especially in what she—right—in what she's gone through!
Like a better ally!
Like somebody, I'm sure like her—like she had legal help!
Like I don't—where do you even get a lawyer to negotiate a [ __ ] settlement with your ex-boyfriend?
Someone who's not scared of nothing!
'Cause another boss would be like, "Listen, this is a liability! We don't want the stink! They could sue the hell out of us!"
And he's like, "We're telling the truth! You can't sue! You think you're going to extort? You think I'm Jordan?"
You're bribing her!
Like just riding so hard for her and making her so unafraid, knowing that she is someone in her corner who has her back, which is really nice!
But also has like—has a lot of resources!
Pockets!
Yeah, it's true!
Which is also important!
It's true!
And I like that Dave said that like it was important for him to know like you're not the only one who has money!
Like it's not a big deal! I have it too!
Yeah! You want to pay? I'll pay, Bri!
Right!
So I—I feel like he deserves a lot of credit for that!
And he's always been that way!
Yeah!
I—I agree! It was a good showing for him!
Do you also feel like so much of this is like Taylor Swift coded?
Not only because they keep saying "smallest man," but because like Zack Bryan like trashed her like two days ago!
Taylor wrote—parsley wrote Dave a letter!
And um, Brianna's—I was looking at her TikTok yesterday, and people were like, "You need to listen to The X Taylor Swift song! Like now you know what it's like!"
And she was like, "You're so right! You're so right!"
She's going to become a big Swifty 'cause she's like not a Swifty!
Yeah! Because she was with him!
Who's tweeting that stuff?
Meanwhile, Parsley loves Dave!
Parsley loves Dave!
So that's like probably a developing story!
Oh, he keeps like releasing music!
Like we don't care!
Take your guitar and go cry!
Like we literally don't care!
She literally shove it up your ass!
Like the hate—it's—I went from being like so indifferent about this person—like I just kind of like never got into it—to it's my mission now to destroy his life!
Like I hate him!
No, I went from being like really sad about their breakup 'cause I thought their relationship was something and like that it wasn't—to being so relieved about their breakup that now I—I need to remember this for the next like couple that I ship!
When they break up, like that's a bad relationship!
It's true!
It's true!
So I don't know if I'll ever learn that, though!
And I also think I feel like, you know, this phrase of love bombing, people have really like—it started to lose its meaning!
People were like, "This guy's texting me so much! He's love bombing me!"
No! Meeting someone four days later and getting attached to them, that is love bombing!
Yeah!
A lot of these terms have lost their meaning, and narcissist—that's really hard for the people who are going through it!
Yeah!
Every guy that's like not acting in a kind manner is a narcissist!
Like that's not what it means!
And we need to bring back meaning to those terms!
And because I feel like her situation is really textbook!
Um, but when those words are always slung around, it's like it's hard to really picture it!
Yeah!
So I agree with you about the love bombing!
And also sometimes people like will be just being nice, and they're like, "They're love bombing me!"
It's like, "Yeah, no!"
And it's a girls like only want to date [ __ ]!
So when a guy's like nice and sends flowers after the first date, he's love bombing me!
No, he's literally just nice!
And like that's still true!
But she was love bombed!
Correct!
Great! Well, that's the first story!
I agree that it's developing!
I—oh, I'm sorry!
I think that the him waiting three days, yada yada, a lot of it had to do with the election!
They were saying, which I thought was so interesting!
He really tried to bury this story!
Meanwhile, Donald—who gives a [ __ ]?
Literally, this—I feel like it's bigger than it ever could have been!
Even like people actually are so desperately seeking a distraction from the election that I actually think he so did himself a disservice!
He played this so wrong!
But I thought it was so interesting how they really tried to like maneuver with the election!
Yeah!
If he had gotten it done before the election, then the election would have happened, and we would have forgotten!
But like in this kind of dry spell post-election, celebrities aren't doing much!
This is all we've got!
It's true!
It was actually really—it's obsessed!
Yeah, me too!
So just rooting for Bri constantly!
Number one fan!
Should we start like a—I'm going to start literally like a fan page!
Like just hyping her up!
Yeah!
Are you ready for our next story?
Like if I have to talk about something else?
Sure!
Yeah!
It's not bad!
Okay!
It's good!
It's some holiday cheer!
M, because the Skims holiday campaign has dropped, and it is starring Goldie Hawn and her kids, Kate and Oliver Hudson, and then their kids!
So it's like a big Hawn-Hudson family affair Skims campaign! Really cute!
So different! Unexpected!
Like if you said Skims is going to tap like a classic family, I—I don't know who I would have thought of!
I wouldn't have thought like the Hudsons!
But they really are so famous across like different age generations!
And Oliver and the kids! It was really cute!
I love Oliver!
Oliver doesn't mean as much to anyone as he does to us!
Yeah!
For some reason, like we are obsessed with him!
I don't know!
Well, he was in—he's in a lot of stuff!
But there's something—
But he was in something we watched!
He played someone's ex-husband!
He was in something we watched that's like one of our movies!
Wait, was he in Daisy Jones?
But that wouldn't be why we love him!
Like he's in plenty of stuff!
Read his IMDB!
He's in Nashville!
Excuse me for six years!
Yeah!
Excuse me! That might have been the one!
I think he—he was in Scream Queens too!
But I remember already loving him when I knew he was going to be in Scream Queens!
I feel like I really started to like him from his social media!
That too!
And then they do the podcast!
Yeah!
And I want to say something! I actually think it's crazy that they've never invited us on their podcast!
That's true!
'Cause they only invite siblings!
And like there aren't a lot of siblings, especially siblings who podcast!
Like our podcast is bigger than theirs!
Like why would I keep waiting to be like invited on that show?
Isn't that weird?
Yeah!
But then we'd have to go on it!
I mean, yes!
Facts!
We always start complaining like we don't get invited!
We don't come!
And then we get invited!
We literally say now we just want to be invited!
That's—we don't want to go!
We just want to be thought of!
Yeah!
It's really true!
And that you also—people could take Sals in that!
Like knowing we're the type of invite us, we won't come!
Like we'll save you the plate so you look like a good guy!
And then you don't have to see us!
And then we are not like chippy about you!
Chippy!
Um, I thought this was really well done!
Like I loved the whole aesthetic of it!
Like the green plaid pajamas!
They were like at this like country club looking type of brunch!
It was really very cute and well—
I mean, they just [ __ ] crush it!
Like the celebrity endorsements department of skims.com is so top tier!
I have no notes!
And I have notes for everyone!
Yeah!
I wonder if they have really big budget or it's like they have decent budget, but Kim has good relationships, and it's an honor to be thought of!
Yeah!
I think that they're not like, you know, paying people extreme amounts, but I don't think they're lowballing people!
I think they're giving fair offers!
But there's so much that comes with—it's not just the campaign!
It's really like the hype, the social media!
Like you get numbers, you get followers!
It's—and it's such a relevant kind of internet-first brand that for a podcaster, like you do it!
Yeah!
And they're just a couple of podcasters after all!
And they're just coming off of like banger after banger between the Tate McRae, Olivia Munn, and I'm sure they're going to have a bunch of holiday stuff!
Yeah!
Tate McRae was technically holiday!
Also, I meant to say we should go to Oliver and Kate's podcast for Halloween ideas because they have siblings on!
It's a [ __ ] great idea!
Just go through all their guests!
Let them do the legwork!
I love that!
Someone remind us next year that we said that, please!
Um, are you ready for our next story?
Just going to take a negative turn, if I may!
Oh, okay!
Let's get negative! My favorite!
Liam Payne's friend, hotel employee, and alleged drug dealer have been charged in connection to the singer's death!
Liam Payne's friend, a hotel employee, and an alleged drug dealer have been charged in connection to the former One Direction member's death!
The National Crime and Correctional Prosecutor's Office announced in a press release on Wednesday!
The friend, who was not identified but reportedly presented himself as Payne's manager, was charged with abandonment for allegedly failing to inform the late singer's family that he had suffered a drug relapse!
Police reportedly tried to get in touch with the Argentine businessman when Payne fell to his death on October 16th via cell number that hotel managers had provided, but he did not pick up the phone!
A lawyer from a major firm reportedly showed up later to inquire whether the friend faced any charges, which led to the businessman testifying as a witness!
A judge then decided that the friend had allegedly breached his duty of care with respect to Payne! He now faces a sentence of 5 to 15 years in prison for abandonment!
Meanwhile, that's really crazy! I didn't know that like you could be held responsible!
Yeah, it is really crazy! I mean, I don't know what the laws are in another country, and the same would apply here, but to me that seems unfair!
Like I tend to agree! In this country, if you sell me drugs and I die, are you responsible?
You can go to jail! That's like what's going on with Matthew Perry now!
Right, right, right!
Okay, so the drug dealer, you're going to jail! Like not for drug dealing, but for murder, manslaughter, whatever you want to call it!
I think so, yes! That's pretty crazy!
No, I mean like you shouldn't be dealing drugs! You shouldn't be dealing drugs!
And you should be punished for dealing drugs! It's really—it's not a hard thing to discuss!
But it's like kind of hard to like say publicly, like you know, on a podcast!
Because I think like there would be a lot of judgment from people if I said what I was like—I feel like—'cause I didn't know!
Like if you sold someone drugs and they ended up dying from those drugs, like you should be going to jail because you are a drug dealer, and that is illegal!
Right? Does that make you a murderer? I don't know! Is this like a bad hot take?
I've never thought about it!
I think a lot of—I think there's a lot of discourse about it!
But I think that to say more than that, like I think we just get [ __ ] for so—
Oh, okay! I'm just like not in the mood! You know what I mean?
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah!
Especially because my thoughts would be like half-baked! You know, I'm just now discovering this!
So I need to like sit on it before I come to like a full conclusion!
Yeah! Feel free to influence me in the comments!
Like, yeah, what do you think? Which way should we feel? Should we be charging them with manslaughter?
See, I know like a doctor—like Michael Jackson's doctor, right?
Like I know that! But that's because like you're a doctor, not a drug dealer!
Yeah!
So that I understand completely!
But I guess I have like lower expectations for drug dealers!
I don't know!
Yeah!
But also like when you're a doctor, like you are asserting your authority over someone!
I know! Like you took an oath to protect and make the best decisions on behalf of your patient!
Yeah!
And killing them with drugs is not that!
Yeah!
I understand what you're saying!
But I—but I think even more so this businessman, manager, like he's going to jail because he didn't tell his family that he had relapsed!
Right!
And like if you were to trace it back, like could things have gone differently if he did?
Yes!
Does that make him responsible? I don't know!
By the way, like the girlfriend who left a few days before, like if she had been there, would she be charged?
Probably!
Sounds like they’ve got some unique laws over there!
That's really crazy!
Thank God she—I haven't heard from her a lot!
But she said—but she also said like leaving is my biggest regret!
But now like knowing everybody's going down around him, she shouldn't have been there!
And also like really, what could she have done?
Right!
But also like, really, what could she have done?
Yeah!
Right!
But also, I'm out of my depth here!
As am I!
As am I!
It's hard! It's hard when something like this happens 'cause you so desperately want to blame someone and someone to be held responsible just 'cause it makes you feel better!
Um, but in a situation like this, it's like, okay, we could blame the hotel guy who sold him drugs, the manager who didn't tell his family that he had relapsed!
But at the end of the day, like it might have still happened!
Yeah!
Okay, if he couldn't get drugs from this person, he would have gotten from that person!
His family would have held an intervention! He would have said, "Go [ __ ] you!"
Like you never know!
Right!
So it's hard to place blame even though it feels good to do that!
Yeah, I agree!
But in this situation, it actually doesn't like feel like justice at all!
It just—it feels like stretch!
Yeah! Least for me!
Me too!
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