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The West is being colonized by Islam as well as the progressive LGBTQ lobby. Today, we've got a pastor from Australia, Andrew Cedra, who tells it like it is. He describes the commonalities between Islam, progressivism, and even atheist communism—this unholy alliance we see dominating the West.
How has this happened? What is the future of it? And what are Christians' roles in all of this? We're talking about this, but also so much more with our guest today on Relatable.
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Pastor, thank you so much for joining me.
Thank you for the honor, Ali. I love what the Lord is doing through you. We're watching you from the other side of the world.
Likewise, the conservative millennial, which is like an oxymoron. Millennials don't tend to be conservative.
Yes, that was like my OG blogger name. Not everyone watching this knows that I started out as the conservative millennial back when people thought no millennials were conservative. Now we're old; no one talks about our generation.
I don't know. I'm guessing you're a millennial too?
I'm a millennial. I think I'm like 1991, so I am in the millennial camp.
It's quite mind-blowing. Unlike what people think, I kind of feel like Gen Y are definitely more conservative than millennials for some reason.
We have seen that whole feminization process that took place since the 1960s. It's kind of now reacting with Andrew Tate and all the crew.
So it's quite interesting watching the swing back. Older people, I think in Australia at least, tend to be a bit more liberal, but younger people for some reason are becoming more conservative.
Okay, which is quite interesting.
Yes, I wasn't anticipating going into this, but since you mentioned Andrew Tate, we did an episode on him last week. There's such a debate on the right and among Christians saying, "Okay, why are these young men, maybe in Australia too, flocking to Andrew Tate? Is it the fault of the church? What is going on?"
What's your assessment?
Church, 1,000%. The church is the problem, and the church is the answer because leadership is the problem, and leadership is the answer.
The church across the West, in Australia particularly and in America, has been feminist and feminized. So as a consequence, a male goes to church, and they feel out of place.
You nailed it with your book, Toxic Empathy. It's the whole feminization of the church where we value love without truth, empathy without courage, the love of God without the fear of God, being nice over being truthful, and being loving and not fighting.
So you wonder why—like, not being a go or anything—I saw that funny photo online of one of the very famous pastors here wearing a pink shirt with his family, and I was like, "Yeah, there is a problem in the church."
Particularly, I would say Boomers and Xers, and half a million pastors, they're very feminized. They're trying to be nice, but as a younger millennial, there's the older millennial crew.
I think when the younger millennial crew, as a male millennial, I find myself very disconnected from the church. That's why I kind of started the church.
I was in a very big liberal church in Australia, the biggest one, very famous music—you probably know it, something song—and trying to be polite.
Yeah, it was just a feminist, feminized culture, and it was very hard as a conservative male to kind of fit in that box of theological liberalism, which is the enemy within the church.
So I think the rise of Andrew Tate is just a natural phenomenon. As much as you can hate him, you should have discipled him.
He is like a reaction to a feminist, feminized church that has been taking place, and I think it's very obvious now.
You have seen in the last 30 years the church has lost ground everywhere—the gay marriage debate, the abortion debate, the God in government debate.
We can clearly see that the church in America and the West has lost so much ground. It's not even open to interpretation; it's crazy when you live in a moment of time where you are losing the culture war, but then somehow pastors are acting like we're winning.
By nature, men like to win. Have you ever been a man before? You know, trans women want to reconcile; men want to win in general.
I mean, I'm competitive to a degree, but I think in general, men and women's nature are different in that way.
I was reading an article yesterday, and they said Australia at the moment is being led by a leftist matriarchy.
I think that whole complex of matriarchy, where you get this hyper level of compassion, kindness, and empathy without that truth, justice, and that fighting element—how God told Joshua to be strong and courageous and fight.
As a consequence, it is not shocking that most men follow Andrew Tate.
Okay, I have some thoughts on this—there are so many thoughts. I like him, but I don't like him. But to an extent, I'm like, he's more courageous than most people.
The sad reality is, I'm like, you don't get angry at the influence; get angry at the fact that people are listening to him because you're not saying it.
I love that we have slightly different perspectives on this. I would agree with everything that you said about the matriarchy.
I call it misplaced mothering. I think that's why a lot of women, even Christian women, follow the social justice movement.
A lot of women don't have kids themselves, and that nurturing, natural instinct to mother doesn't go away.
Like the Ken vibes—well, you started when you were five years old taking care of your baby.
That mothering instinct doesn't go away, so they channel it into social justice causes and into power places and into their careers.
Yes, and which is why they see either, you know, the criminal or the illegal migrant as the child that they're taking care of.
One thing I will say, though, about the Andrew Tate thing, and then I want to hear what you have to say about this: I totally agree about the feminization of parts of the church, but wouldn't you also say that there are some men that gravitate towards him simply because of sin?
Like there are women who believe in false teachers.
As a Muslim, I was speaking to my wife, and before he became a Muslim, I grew up in the Middle East, a Muslim world, so it's a very patriarchal society.
Half of my life was in Egypt, half of my life was in Australia, so I had the two opposite extremes.
The Muhammad followers kill the infidel, domineer over women, have four wives, and you get 72 virgins in heaven.
Islam, and then you come to the West and the hyper-feminist.
So it's quite interesting me watching this tug of war. You go there, and women are oppressed, and then men are like, "No, they're not."
And you come here, and men are oppressed, but women say they're not.
So it's quite shocking. But going back, he's totally degenerate.
Women are susceptible to listening to false teachers, and we say, "Well, yeah, that's just sin that women are listening to false teachers."
We don't say, "Oh, well, it's the church's fault that women are doing that."
But for men, when they listen to false teachers, instead of giving them the responsibility of like, "Yeah, you're sinning," I think it's the church's fault that young people are gravitating toward there because we are not offering a better solution.
It's in the stats—like across Australia, I think 60 to 70% of churches are women, mostly women.
We figured it out across there. The issue is we keep addressing women, women, women, and not men.
And going back to Andrew Tate—like Andrew Tate is a little boy that pretends to be a man.
Like men get married; little boys sleep around and not get married.
So Andrew Tate is a little boy that pretends like he's a man because ultimately he's strong and courageous, which is the virtue of a man, but he lacks a big virtue of the man, which is love.
The Bible said control too, so if you can't control yourself—if you can't love a woman enough to marry her, you're not a man.
The Bible said love self as Christ loved the church.
So I always say to people, if you want to become a man, be strong, be courageous, love, and sacrifice and self-control.
He has that man-boy condition, and we like parts of it.
I love the courage; I love the fighting element, but obviously when it comes to commitment, like if you are that strong, you should be able to control your sexual desires enough to marry one woman.
But he can't, so he's very strong, but he's also very—he's this paradox.
There's a lot of, you know, the Trump-style figures rising where you like parts of them, but you don't like parts of them, and it's just happening.
You're going to see a lot more. The church was one extreme.
Yeah, it's quite interesting, but I was telling my wife that Andrew Tate will 100% become a Muslim before he becomes a Christian.
He wants to be godly and a womanizer at the same time.
That's what Islam gets. Well, that's what Islam is.
It's like you get to have four wives; you get to sleep around with the infidel; you get to kill your enemy; you get to be strong; you get to kill your enemies and declare war on the world and take territory.
You get to get 72 virgins in the afterlife.
A woman gets one husband; a man gets four wives.
It sounds like a very Andrew Tate religion.
So it gives him the opportunity to be godly and sexually immoral at the same time.
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Talk to me more about your experience with Islam.
Yeah, so I grew up in the Middle East, the Muslim world. So as a Christian there, it was very, very tough—like Egypt.
I grew up a Christian. I was a Coptic Christian, so I did a DNA test, and I was like 98% Coptic Egyptian.
So we were like the ancient pagan Egyptians that, when Mark went to Egypt in 50 AD, we became Christian.
Obviously, pagans are very aggressive; they ended up killing Mark in 50 or 70 AD by tying his body to a horse across the nation.
But eventually, by 300 AD, most of Egypt became Christian, and you had the formation of the Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Church.
So I kind of grew up in that world.
Islam took over in 600 AD, and before you know it, for the last 14 to 1600 years, there was systematic persecution, oppression, suppression, killing, raping, beheading—jizya, which is the Muslim tax on the people.
In the last 1500 years, Egypt went from 90% Christian to now 10% Christian.
You see that across the Muslim world. So many people can look at the Middle East—whether it's Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Algeria, Jerusalem, Syria—like, "Are those barbaric Arabs?"
I'm like, "No, not really." What happened was that the Islamic religion rose and took by force all of the Christian East, and now you have the Middle East.
That's kind of where I come from.
We have seen the rise of Islam, and Christianity is nearly eradicated across the Middle East.
To go into Europe, I mean, when you're at someone like America, I thought it was a conspiracy theorist.
I talked about it a few times with a few people, Charlie and a lot of people, and then I watched the terrorist attack recently in New Orleans, and I was like, "It's already here."
He was, I'm pretty sure, from Texas, actually.
That guy that took the car, and he was from Houston.
So Islam—he converted to Islam as an adult.
I think he actually maybe was like his DNA is Middle Eastern or something.
That Islamic ideology—yes, converted to Islam, I think, as an adult.
Islam is a religion because you get sex, power, territorial forces; you get to kill the infidel.
You get that blood rush of having a six-year-old wife.
Yeah, so he married Aisha when she was six years old, and then he consummated the marriage when she was nine.
He had her when she was six, and then when she was nine, he consummated.
Yeah, yeah, Islam has a problem of morality.
It has a problem of morality. The issue is in Islam that they have a very perverted, evil, violent, and wicked prophet.
They would want to kill me for saying that, but if I was in Egypt now, I'd be in jail for 10 years for saying that, and I'd probably get killed on the street.
So that's kind of the environment that we grew up in.
You couldn't preach the gospel outside of the church walls; you couldn't proclaim the name of Jesus in the public square.
You could never speak truth to power; you could never convert a Muslim to a Christian.
You had blasphemy laws, which is if a pastor ever speaks against Islam, you're going to go to jail for after 10 years, and you probably get tortured and die there.
My dad was a pastor; we escaped Egypt in 2007 because he converted a particular Muslim woman to Christianity.
So the Muslim Brotherhood, which is like the terrorist group, like Hamas, wanted to kill him, and the Egyptian moderate Muslim government wanted to put him in jail.
So we ended up escaping to Thailand in 2007, and then we went to Australia as religious refugees.
So that's kind of the world I come from.
It's very different.
Okay, tell me why, because everything you're describing about Islam, most conservatives would say, "Yeah, it is the most oppressive and regressive, more than communism, I would argue, yes, religion that we have."
And yet, why do you have progressives who claim to be pro-women and pro-liberation?
Why do they so often support Islam and "Gays for Gaza"?
This is a paradox. It makes sense, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
"Queers for Palestine, Gays for Gaza, Jews for Hitler."
It's pigs for bacon, chickens for KFC.
It doesn't even make sense.
It's a very interesting phenomenon because as you study both worldviews, it's a worldview-altering alliance.
Islam hates Christianity, and that's why Islam hates America.
One of the biggest experiences I remember very clearly was during 9/11. I was in Egypt; I was going to my swimming training.
The moment we saw that video of the plane crashing into the World Trade Center, my friends—very nice people—were celebrating on the street.
"Death to America! Victory to Allah! Finally, Islam has won!"
I remember being in that moment, and I didn't know I'd be here today.
So it's kind of coming to America, and I'm like, "I remember."
What people fail to realize is that Islam is a totalitarian ideology.
Islam is a one-world order totalitarian ideology that pretends to be a religion.
Islam is a political one-world order.
I know people like the World Economic Forum and all that one-world order stuff—well, there's another one; it's called Islam, and it's there, and it's here, and it's real.
That's why you see Muslims here fighting for Palestine.
You only live in America; why do they care about Palestine?
It doesn't make a lot of sense, but because Islam has this concept called the Ummah.
Islam is a one-world religion that believes one day they're going to take over the whole world, and there's going to be one world government order called Ummah.
So Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity.
In the Middle East, America and Christianity are the exact same thing.
The reality is, as America is a Christian nation, whether people like it or not, one nation under God.
When you see all this freedom stuff, I grew up in the Middle East; we don't have that.
So when you look at America, you're like, "Yeah."
Islam hates America because Islam hates Christianity, and Islam hates Christianity because Islam hates freedom.
See, the left is the same. The left hates America because they hate Christianity.
They hate Christianity because they hate freedom.
So both the left, the progressive left, and the godless left—it's not because they hate Jesus.
Well, and eventually, you get to the figure of the whole thing, which is Jesus.
It's an antichrist movement.
So what you'll figure out is that progressivism and Islam are the exact same thing.
I know they're the total opposite, but they have the total same interests.
So you have the unholy alliance between godless leftism and violent Islam.
They're both violent; they're both authoritarian; they're both totalitarian.
They both go after the church, and that's why when I came to Australia and I watched the left act, they act exactly like the Muslims.
Hate speech laws are blasphemy laws—same thing.
We have in Australia anti-conversion therapy laws where, as a pastor, I will go to jail if I pray for a gay person—3 to 5 years.
So what's funny in Egypt, that's called apostasy law.
So what I figured out as I came here is that the progressive left and violent Islam, they are the exact same.
The green and the red—the communist red and the green Islam.
So it's the same demonic spirit of the antichrist.
But it is a very mind-blowing reality.
"Queers for Palestine, Gays for Gaza."
It doesn't make sense on a surface level.
Yeah, but in Australia, 70 to 80% of Muslims vote left.
You see Ilhan Omar and their best—like, "Dude," because Muslims obviously don't believe in homosexuality.
Or they don't—they don't just like they say, "Oh, you're a homophobe."
I'm like, "Dude, you can be what you want; I'm not going to kill you. Just don't do it on the street, don't do it with my children, and don't celebrate on the street."
In the Middle East, you'll get killed.
Yeah, so again, it doesn't make sense, but once you realize both godless leftism and violent Islam, they hate Christianity, they hate America, they hate the West, and they hate Christ.
And so why do they both hate Israel?
Exactly.
So Israel is the only liberal experiment of democracy in the Middle East.
It's crazy when you watch "Gays for Palestine."
We have a lot of them in Sydney—"Free, free Palestine!"
I'm like, "Palestine would never be free."
Palestine is a totalitarian crap hole.
It's like, have you ever heard about any country in the Muslim Middle East that's free?
You're crazy!
I grew up in moderate Egypt; if I go now, I'll be killed or I'll go to jail.
So Iraq—not free.
Syria—not free.
Algeria—not free.
Turkey is not free.
When they say "Free, free Palestine," I'm not sure what the hell they mean because there is no free country in the Middle East.
Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian; I'm not going to get killed in Israel.
I'm going there actually this year.
Israel is the only place that I can go as a Christian, and I can preach the gospel.
Maybe a Jew might spit on me, but he's not going to kill me.
That's all right; that's okay.
I don't care; you can spit on me.
Israel is the only nation that a Muslim can become a Christian, and a Christian can become a Muslim.
In fact, in Egypt, there's like eight Jews; in Israel, there's like 1.6 million Muslims.
In Gaza, there's like 0.1% Christians, zero Jews, and 99.99% Muslims.
So when they say "Free Palestine, genocide," it's bull crap.
It doesn't make sense; it's not true; it's not real; it's not historically accurate; it's not statistically accurate; it's not philosophically accurate.
Again, the hate towards the West, and Israel does represent the West.
Whether you want to disagree, Jews do.
Christian values—Christian values, we can argue over that, but the reality is both Judaism and Christianity will believe in the Ten Commandments.
Islam doesn't.
Islam says kill the infidel, which happens to be Christians, Jews, gays, communists, atheists—every single thing that's not Muslim.
So the infidel happens to encapsulate everybody that doesn't believe in violent Allah and his false prophet, Islam Muhammad.
So yeah, you have this weird unholy alliance.
So communists always will hate Israel because it's the only experiment of freedom and liberty in the Middle East.
So I don't need to go there theologically; I'm just talking politically, practically, statistically.
As a religious refugee, I am a lot more safe in Israel than in the country I was born.
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Ali, this is so obvious to both of us, but do you see there is a shift among some people on the right?
It probably would be the contingency even of people who love Andrew Tate, who are increasingly anti-Israel and are weirdly sympathetic to Islam, like on the conservative side.
This is what I call—there is an actual genocide that's happening in Gaza for the Christians.
Christianity was 6,000 people in the 1970s in Gaza; right now, there's less than 800 Christians.
Where are all these Christians?
Muslims are multiplying like rabbits; Christianity is disappearing.
There is an actual genocide that is happening in Palestine, and that is a genocide of Christians.
I was thinking about today, like we saw the George Floyd case.
You can't judge a video by two minutes.
The exact same thing—it's very sad watching little kids die in the Middle East, but the exact same thing—you cannot judge a video by five minutes.
The context, this political narrative, there is a lot of complexity to the Middle East.
And the complexity is, why don't you go to Gaza and go on the street for a walk?
It's very simple.
I lived in the Middle East; I grew up where we grew up hating the Jews, chanting "Kill the Jews."
We got taught in school that killing Jews is service to Allah—that was the institutional anti-Jewish hate.
We grew up, and by the way, first they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going to go for the Christians.
When next?
When next?
Crazy enough, in Australia, on October 7th, there were people screaming in front of Sydney Opera House, "Gaza Jews! Gaza Jews!"
And I looked at that, and I'm like, "Man, something was that."
A few months later, a Muslim boy, an anti-Jewish Muslim boy, went to a church 40 minutes down the road and stabbed a priest as he was about to open the Bible, and he said, "Allahu Akbar."
Why did that happen?
First, they're going to go for the Jews, then they're going for the Christians.
We have eight Jews in Egypt and 10% Christians.
You can go your Zionism stuff, whatever you want to say, but the reality is Islam has been annihilating Christianity since the moment of its birth.
Egypt used to be Christian; Algeria used to be Christian, and this is the actual story.
And that has nothing to do with Zionism, Bill Gates, whatever you want to dig into who funds the money—Islamist, institutionally anti-Christian and anti-Judaism.
You saw them in Washington, DC at the beginning of the year; they were burning the American flag.
Why would Muslims come from the other side of the world to burn an American flag?
I think they're very misinformed, and they just honestly need to go for a walk in Israel and go for a walk in Algeria.
It's not that complicated.
It's not that complicated.
But they got COVID right; they got Black Lives Matter right; they got this one wrong.
Yeah, and the reason is because they're not from the region.
Right?
I get a lot of, "Hamed, you're like, you Zionist, Christian Zionist."
I'm like, "I just happen to live in the Middle East, and I understand how horrific it was."
In the airport a few weeks ago in Sydney, Sydney was being overtaken by Islam.
So our area, for example, we had to move our church because we got so many threats that people want to kill me for what I say—Muslims.
Not even just progressives, because you say a lot about LGBTQ and stuff that most pastors aren't willing to say too.
So it sounds like we have so many death threats that we had to move our home to a more white area because our area that we lived in got infiltrated by Islam.
Wow, so it's happening.
Australia is 10 years ahead of America.
You guys kind of started to see this little bit of terrorist attacks here and there; it's happening.
We had a Jewish synagogue get bombed a few weeks ago.
It's a real—I think it's a reality check for the anti-Islam conservatives.
Yeah, they got COVID right; they got BLM right; they got LGBTQISM right; they have Islam and Israel very wrong.
Yeah, tell me about the progressive political landscape in Australia.
I didn't know that much about politics in Australia, but then I saw COVID, and your leadership went absolutely psychotic.
I can go the two directions—COVID or LGBTQ.
Let's go with COVID.
So going back to the leftist matriarchy, what you saw with COVID is a womanized approach to dealing with safety issues.
So because women don't have kids that they can control and take care of them at home, once you put so many women in power, you get with that Karen safety approach—misplaced mothering.
So before you know it, we are here to protect you.
I'm like, "Honey, leave me alone; I don't want your protection."
Please!
I'm like, "Well, we want to make sure you didn't get COVID."
I'm like, "Can you please leave me alone? I'm happy to die from COVID rather than to die from your overreach."
Don't forget your jacket; eat your vegetables.
It's basically what they're doing.
Put a mask on, put a mask on, put the mask off.
Oh my gosh, it's matriarchy, and you can feel it.
It's this Kamala Harris had it all over her.
Like, she's the totalitarian Karen freak.
It's like, "Please stay away from me."
At the moment, we are governed by the socialist left; that's literally the Labor Party.
51% of the party is women.
I'm like, "I don't want a party to be 50% women because they're going to control the hell out of me."
It just—it's misplaced mothering.
So what you saw with COVID was a womanized approach; it was exaggeration, control, locking down people.
It's like punishing your kids.
You know when your kid does something wrong, and you like go to your room?
That's literally what they did for us for the whole country.
So we had the longest lockdowns in the world—not just the longest lockdown in the world; we had the longest lockdown in the history of humanity—two years.
I don't think there's any country in the history of anything that the leaders decided to lock them down for two years.
The church was shut; you could go to the brothel to sleep with a prostitute, but you couldn't go to church to worship Jesus.
Progressivism!
And they say, "Oh, don't talk about politics."
I'm like, "Really, mate?"
You could go to the liquor store to get alcohol and get depressed in your misery, but you couldn't go to church.
H, very interesting.
You could go to the racist Black Lives Matter protest in Australia.
I'm like, "We don't even have black people."
I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about.
So this progressive movement is like, "Yeah."
I had a few of my black friends, "Yeah, racism."
I'm like, "Dude, there's no slavery in Australia."
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
So the leftist bur—it's everywhere.
It's an ideological framework.
So they were like, "So you could go and protest for Black Lives Matter, but you couldn't go to Jesus to worship in church because of the science."
So I'm not sure what the hell is that.
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So we had that crazy thing.
So in COVID, the big thing was this is very crazy.
We had a curfew that you have to go home at 8:00 PM.
Again, government makes a horrible God, and government makes an abusive mom.
It's very, very important.
My mom used to allow me to go out till 10 PM; the government, 8 PM, you had to be home.
We literally had drones and helicopters ride down the street every single day to make sure that nobody goes out of their home.
You were only allowed to go out of home once a day to exercise and walk for one mile and not go back.
In order for you to go to church after two years of lockdown, every church—the government installed a QR code.
Again, no person in Australia talks about that.
Like, this happened, and I'm like, it's almost like for me, like a traumatic experience.
I'm like, I look back, and I'm like, "Did that just happen?"
You know, it's like you do really know what it means when you're there, but looking backwards, you're like, "Crap, that was psychopathic."
Like, that wasn't totalitarian; it was therapeutic totalitarianism.
It's tyranny for your own good, tyranny for your own safety, tyranny for your health.
Again, the prime minister was very overweight, but he was talking to us about health.
Again, this weird stuff—it's like, can you please lead by example and look healthy before you tell me to be healthy?
Yeah, but going back, every church had to have a QR code that was installed by the government, and that QR code was connected to the government agencies, to the government of the time, and to the police.
Every single person, in order for you to enter church, you have to scan a code.
They have to know your name, your medical status, what time you enter church, what time you exit church, and what church you went to.
If that is not tyranny and totalitarian control, what is?
Scary!
So that was the expectation for you to enter church and exit church every single moment.
One time, my brother went to the shops, and there was one COVID case, so they ended up locking everybody in the shop in their home for two weeks.
The police had to go and check on him every day that he's not allowed to leave home.
Wow!
The house in front of us, there was a big apartment; they had one case of COVID.
The police came and set up a whole fence around them, and these people were not allowed to leave except to pick up food.
The police would get food and put them in the front, and those sick peasants had to come down and take the food, and they were surrounded by the police for two weeks.
Wow!
24/7, the police went.
So that is the story of Australia.
And finally, you landed with Melbourne down the road.
Melbourne is like our California.
So all the crazy LGBTQ stuff happened in Melbourne.
At the moment, they have—they're now building pride centers with the government money to protect their LGBTQ community.
So now the progressivism, they're building their own sexually perverted church with our own tax money called pride centers.
So Melbourne is like California.
They had rubber bullets, bazooka tanks on the street, attacking peaceful protesters for wanting to go to work.
And not just that, on the tanks, Allah love progressives; they're very good at manipulation.
They wrote on the tanks, "Rescue vehicle."
Oh my gosh!
So tanks—that is so Orwellian, like the Ministry of Truth in charge of propaganda.
We nearly had that, and it didn't pass a few months ago, a misinformation bill where the government has been trying to pass something like that for a while.
Right?
It's going to pass, I think, if we keep—if we take one more step towards progressivism in Australia with Trump being in charge.
They're very scared of Donald Trump.
They are so scared.
Like our prime minister, we should buy Australia.
Dude, I'm ready!
I kind of tagged President Trump, like, "Please, can you invade us, please?"
Because the Muslims—the Muslims are going to invade us, and the LGBTQ ABC, they are already indoctrinating us.
I'm like, "Hey, dude, lower attack—freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment.
I can go to church and worship Jesus—less restrictions on business and operating."
I'm like, "I'm ready!"
I don't see why not.
Yeah, yeah!
Come on!
I like, "Please, Donald Trump, come and take us!"
That's amazing!
I would be happy about that.
Yeah, well, people don't say colonization is not a feature; colonization is a fact.
At the moment, what's going to happen to the world?
You're either getting colonized by Islam, or you're getting colonized by the one-world order with progressivism.
The reality is something is—oh, China.
Something is getting colonized.
So whether you like it or not, colonization is not a feature of life; it's a fact.
And America, you guys have seen the World Economic Forum and the global elites; they have been trying to colonize you from the outside for a very long time.
And thank the Lord, a populist nationalist movement won because we do not want godless globalism, which is tyrannical, or violent Islam, which are the two enemies, I believe, of America and the West.
Yeah, yeah!
And you mentioned China, and I was just thinking as you were talking about how strange it is that somehow China, these Middle Eastern Islamic-dominated countries, progressives, the one-world order—how somehow they all unite.
But really, as you said, the common thread is the antichrist spirit.
And what they don't understand—America is an exceptional country.
And I know a lot of people say, "How dare you say that?"
I'm like, "No, I've lived in the Middle East; I've lived in Australia."
The First and Second Amendments—it's a gift from God.
It is not normal that a country—like, how crazy is it?
There are three countries in the world ever with constitutional freedom of speech, and only America is the one that doesn't have the condition of hate speech.
Yeah!
What a coincidence that the only country in the world with constitutional freedom of speech—like, we're so progressive, we're so smart, enlightenment, science, yet somehow we don't have freedom of speech codified.
Progressives are very funny because progressives don't lead history to learn; they read history to critique.
So every time they look like that racist white man, I'm like, "That's you, actually."
Yeah, you are what you hate.
They don't know that, but how crazy is it that America is the only country in the world that has freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of religion, and freedom of press codified?
The reality is America is the one holding the line.
Like, the reason I'm here three months a year is because, man, we need America to be strong.
Yeah!
Because what is enabling you as a pastor to not get arrested yet is people like you, people like the conservative movement, the Christian conservatives, are fighting the good fight.
And people like Donald Trump, who are using their God-given power to turn the West back to reality.
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So we haven't even gotten into LGBTQ yet, and we only have a few minutes, but I thought that you would give a good response.
I'm here again in May, so we can do the next one.
LGBTQ—you give a good response and reaction to a couple of crazy clips that we have of how some churches are—some churches are in the United States.
Let's play S9 and see what you have to say.
"Jesus is polyamorous."
If you're one of those Christians who believes in the importance of a personal relationship with Jesus, well, Jesus is having personal relationships with billions of other people too.
He's kind of a relationship slut—an empowered, reclaimed sort of slut.
Repeatedly, Paul reminds us that Jesus gave himself for us, us the church, which Paul describes as the whole body of believers.
In this marriage, Jesus isn't married to one person; he's married to the entire body of believers.
Jesus is in a pansexual, polyamorous relationship with us, and so, of course, Christians can be polyamorous.
That's a biblical model of relationship.
Okay, he actually said Jesus is a—at one point.
What the heck is that?
Yeah, that's so weird.
Look, it's a sex cult; that's my reaction.
It's a sex cult.
God created us to love people, worship Him, and use sex.
What the LGBTQ sex cult does—and we are in the midst of it—we have what you call in Australia gay communism, where it's illegal to pray for a gay person with their consent.
As a pastor, I can go to jail or get fined if I have this conversation.
So if you're gay and I'm talking to you like that now, you can right now report me to the Human Rights Commission, and you will take me to court with a case around half a million dollars to a million dollars, and I can land in jail for 3 to 5 years, or our church will get fined $100,000 for me pushing my ideas on you and trying to convert you.
Yeah, that's anti-conversion.
And this is again—leftists don't use language to communicate; they use language to manipulate.
This is the funny thing about the bill—they are the ones transing the kids and converting them from a man to a woman, right?
But they're projecting it on you.
So this is the funny—I'm not doing any conversion.
I'm telling the kid, "Hey, you're not gay; your nature tells you you can have babies when you get married, male and female."
You don't need to cut your body parts; you just need to get your soul right with God.
And then they tell you, "No, you're the one performing the conversion."
I'm like, "No."
So they always project; it's all projection.
It's the self-righteous Pharisee.
So, and this is the reality—all my conservatives who are pro-gay marriage, you have already crossed the line.
Like, I think the gay marriage debate needs to come back because if marriage is not for a lifetime—divorce since the '60s—if marriage is not between a man and a woman, and it's a man and a man, a woman and a woman, why cannot marriage be between a man and a donkey?
Yeah!
There is no line!
Like, this is—once you—today's progressive is yesterday's conservative, and today's conservative is yesterday's progressive, and tomorrow's conservative is today's progressive.
So the problem you're facing for the conservative movement, they need to have a line, and that line has to be the Bible.
Because this sounds crazy; it's not going to be crazy in 10 years.
At the moment, we had a Green politician—Greens is like our Communist Party—who are trying to justify women who are single, who can't get married, having sex with their dogs.
What?
We actually had that on national TV.
The ABC podcaster, he's like, "We need to have a conversation."
Every time, "Let's have a conversation," and it was about why can't a single lady perform oral sex with her dog if she is lonely?
That was on TV!
So the—we are in Australia; there is no line.
People have to understand there is—because I never thought we'd live in a moment where we can say a man can get pregnant.
I never thought—like, if you said that to me 10 years ago, like, "You're crazy!"
You're crazy!
If you say that to most of the world today, they say that you're crazy.
Yeah!
But the issue is it will be normalized because the line, which is biblical Christianity, is gone.
Yeah, yeah!
But in the non-Western world, even, you know, like the Muslim world, they obviously get a lot wrong, but if you asked them, "Can a man get pregnant?"
They would, I don't know, maybe kill you, but certainly laugh in your face.
You will be pregnant in heaven or hell!
Oh my goodness!
H, this was great!
I could talk to you for a lot longer, but I know we've got to get out of here.
Thank you so much!
How can people support you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Hey, follow me on Instagram, Facebook, all social media platforms—Andrew Cedra, YouTube.
Our church is Echo Church in Sydney.
We have people that travel two hours away to come to our church.
Wow!
When the word of the Lord is rare, people travel a lot.
I also read the story of Jesus—why did people travel three hours to come hear Jesus?
I figure out the gospel is very powerful, and when you speak the truth, people will travel.
So if you live in Sydney, Australia, I don't know, it's a very lonely place.
We are a minority; three out of ten people are Christian, so we're in a very, very dark space, and half of them are liberal.
So 1.5% of people—so we don't—if one out of ten people are Christian, you feel like a minority.
You can come to church; make sure you come and check us out.
And stay up; I might need you at some point if or when they decide to arrest me for what I say.
Yeah, for real!
We'll be ready to share the arrows.
Relatable!
Well, thank you so much; this is really fun.
For honor, Ali!
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