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Well, I just finished this, uh, interview with a podcaster in Canada. Uh, most of his audience is down in the States, so it's really relevant.
You could see in here, at least what I saw, how excited he was when he found out about these programs. There’s no idea now; Canada, I feel, has more programs for government than we do, but I don't really know for sure. I almost wrote a book about that, but this was like 40 years ago.
Uh, but he was so amped, and he's a marketing guy too, so I related to him like that. You see in the interview how, uh, he's so surprised how the rich in this country, how millionaires get more grants, you know, to pay even for utility bills than someone making $30,000 or less. Ian, see, that's mean grants are crazy. You know, anything you know about grants is probably wrong, and it's probably right somewhere, wrong somewhere else. But if you're only looking in one place, you're not going to find what you need.
So that's why I hope you watch this to see that it takes work on your part to find out where these things are, and definitely not in Google. Now, we talk about that a lot, so watch this and grow, and that way you don't learn about this stuff without giving me money, so that'll be a bonus.
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Yeah, hey guys, welcome back to the B Academy podcast! I'm super excited to have you here, as always. This is the show where we talk about the mindset, money, and marketing.
And today we have a guest who's as bold and colorful as the suits that he wears: Matt Lasco. He is famously known as the question mark guy. He's the man behind over 20 books, including "Information Us," "Getting Yours," and "Free Money to Pay Your Bills," all aimed at helping you unlock the secrets of government grants and financial resources.
You've probably seen him on YouTube sharing insider tips on accessing government programs or rocking his question mark in commercials. Welcome to the show!
Hi! Well, thank you, Alex. Nice to be here. I thought I was calling in from Washington, D.C., but you look like you're in another or below level than I am.
Yeah, I know. It's pretty cold up here at this time of the year.
Awesome! Yeah, I would like you to share with the audience how you started. Uh, how did you get into this industry? I guess you can call it an industry, or how did you pursue the career in helping people find grants?
Uh, well, how do I start? I mean, when I was a young man, you know, you're trying to figure out how to feed yourself, and you keep trying and keep trying. I'm doing what I'm doing now because I failed at everything else, man. I tried a whole bunch of things, and none of it worked.
Uh, but that happens with everything. I mean, if you're going to do something new in life, uh, you got to plan for failure. You don't plan for success because that rarely happens, or at least initially.
And that's why when people say, "I hear that seven steps to success," I mean, that maybe it worked for somebody, but it probably won't work for you. And to me, what that does is stop people because they get to item number three, and it doesn't work. So they say, "Ah, that guy's an idiot. I shouldn't have listened to him."
But no matter what you do, you're going to have to fail. And that's why the problem is not getting the steps to success; it's getting the advice for success. And the advice for success we go out to other people who supposedly helped somebody or helped themselves or whatever, and that's fine. That worked for them, but it's probably not going to work for you.
We're all so different, different skills and different attitudes. And so when I started really becoming successful is when I gave up listening to anybody. I got an MBA, would go to all seminars and all this kind of stuff, and I found myself working at things so hard and failing. And I said, "This is nuts."
So I had two companies that failed, and then I decided, "Wow, something's wrong here." Uh, you know, and I was everything I was doing. I wasn't happy doing it. You know, I was just doing it. Oh, it was like eating my spinach. My mom said I had to do this, so I was being miserable, not succeeding.
So it seemed like the goal was maybe in 20, 30 years, I'll have fun or something like that, which sounds like a stupid life. Why am I trapped into this? So I said, "What I'm going to do is have fun first." Because if I have fun first, it doesn't matter if I succeed or not. I'm having fun now. I don't have to wait 30 years to have fun.
So that's really the key. And the way to do that, there's no magic way to do it. Maybe you could get help, maybe you can, but the best thing that we don't do that we have to do is listen to our own heart, listen to ourselves for success, not other people.
Uh, it's you because if your heart is not in it, you're not going to make it happen. You know, you're going to find there's anything you do in life, there's going to be a reason to stop. It happens every day, particularly anything you're going to know. It's like learning to walk all over again.
I don't know if you have kids or not, but I remember my kids trying to walk. They pull themselves up by the coffee table and take a step and fall on their ass, you know? And they have to do that lots and lots of times.
So if they were an adult and they were trying to do something I knew they couldn't do, I’d tell them, "Hey, don't do that. You're going to fail," right? So when you come to your parents and say, "I want to do this. I want to start," hey, they'll tell you 15 reasons why it's not going to work, and they're probably all right.
But that doesn't matter. You know, the way like the kid who's going to fail, you don't start walking because you're going to fall on your ass. They know that, or they know instinctively. They don't even hear you, and they know they have to do it to succeed.
So that's what's in all of us. We have to do something, uh, no matter how bad it is or whatever, because we want to do it. And you won't do that unless it's coming from your heart. If you're coming from a checklist of easy steps to succeed, man, there's no easy steps.
I mean, there may be a few in there, but you're going to run into bad stuff. So you really have to prepare for bad stuff. Everybody prepares for success. You know, success is easy. You get the money, go to the bank. You know, you don't have to know anything else.
Why do we take all these seminars about how to be successful? No, it's how to get there is through failure and trial and error. And particularly in marketing, nobody knows. I mean, the only people who know is certainly not your loved ones; it's your potential customers. They're the only people you know that matter.
I remember when I did my commercials, I would go to my friends and whatever, see my commercials I was working on, and take their advice. Then it occurred to me they never bought anything from TV. Why am I even showing them this? That's crazy, you know?
And that's it. It's the market. Who do you want to love? Who do you want to give your heart to? They're the people that only count. Advice is fine, but you know, you overrule it most of the time if you're smart enough, or maybe you test it.
The other thing too I think about starting anything, marketing or whatever, is don't spend money because it's too easy to get free testing than it is to pay. And people who sell you things, sell you advertising or anything like that, man, they're in it to make money.
Yeah, so they're going to say, "Hey, you make a million dollars to do this." So I got to the point, okay, am I going to make a million dollars with you? I'll give you half the money. So if they thought my ads would be, you know, perfect for them for me to make a million dollars, well, here, run my ad. I'll give you half the money.
Anything you do instead of me paying for the ad and losing, because most things in marketing, I think you lose. And that's why you have to live long enough to figure out what really works for you.
So spending the least amount of money is the key to this. And now with the internet, man, you know, 30, 40 years ago when I started, there was no way to do this, you know, do free unless putting postage cards on the bulletin board in your Safeway or something like that was free marketing.
Uh, that's about it. But now it's all over. I mean, you know, you got so many platforms. Um, you know, to test ideas. Uh, to me, marketing is like making love. A good lover doesn't have to be told what to do. You know, a good lover knows instinctively through the heart what they need and want.
Because most of us don't have enough language. Like a consumer doesn't have enough language or knowledge to explain what, "Yeah, I want a lot of money," or, you know, just stupid stuff. But it's usually behind that that you have to do, and that's talking heart to heart to do that.
And that's why a lover does that more. Um, they're getting to know the person more instead of something. And same with consumers. So you have to use their language pretty much in a way, but even more the language they didn't even know yet. You, you, they don't know how to articulate it.
I, we don't, I don't for myself. Yeah, you know, I just feel hurt. I don't know what the why, what, and it's too complicated for me as a marketing guy.
Well, yeah, it's like in the world of marketing, there's the saying you need to get into the conversation that's happening in their head. You see politicians do that.
Oh, yeah, yeah. That's all they do. They're just trying to say what's in your head. Uh, and that's what is marketing. And that's why it's not, that's why trying to think that people should have this, "Oh, you should have," is like, you know, they don't know that.
And they don't know what the language means when you say that. Language is so complicated. Even though we speak English together, I don't know why there's more wars. You know, people speaking the same language can't even communicate.
You know, we see different countries, different languages, and wow, uh, it's too hard. And that's why it's opening your own heart to feel that more, you know, from the customer side and not to just pick the brain, but to feel.
That's right. Your heart is smarter than your brain. You know, the brain is too, you know, mechanical or whatever, a spreadsheet. And that's not how the body or the heart operates on a spreadsheet. You know, it's emotional, 100%.
Yeah, because most people buy emotionally. Exactly. Instead of, like, even men. Because usually people say, "Well, women buy emotions," right? More women buy emotionally compared to men.
But in reality, it's both. Men are dumber because we're caught up with so much stuff that's not human. You know, and women operate more from a human standpoint.
You mean like more caring?
Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. But that part of life that they're more interested. We want dollars, we want macho machines, we want all this other stuff that's really not anything to do with being human.
You could be human with all any of that stuff. So women are sort of, maybe because they give birth, that they're more tuned into that part of life. You know, that could be more important in a capitalist society. It probably isn't, but maybe it should be a little more important.
Well, I guess it also depends on the family in a way. Like, if the family has the right values, right? Even in the capitalist society, I know so many people in Canada, anyway, being capitalists, but they have the right values, the right morals, um, and they're just great people.
Right? No, I don't think it's all bad. Nothing is, you know, like all humans are not bad. Well, maybe if we all feel good, we may not get done. And capitalism seems to work pretty good. It got a lot of people out of, you know, even in China. Look, they got a billion people out of poverty in 10 years or more, and that's incredible.
And they did it with capitalism, their version of it. But it's still that. That's what is so. It's not bad. Uh, it's just part, and you can't solve everything with it the same way we can't do the other side with it.
So it's like a, it is true. So speaking of grants, how many grants would you say are out there, um, for people to use from the government?
Well, it depends on where you live. I mean, in the government, there's probably millions. I mean, it's just incredible.
Uh, I mean, I'll show you a chart I made. What did you do? Did you take it here? What did you do with that? I had it here anyway. Our country is 40% capitalism, and then, I mean, 60% capitalism and 40% of it is here.
Uh, when you take the GDP, our gross national product or gross domestic product, uh, the pink or the yellow here is capitalism. So that's the part that's capital. The other, the green and the blue is what I call community.
So community helps each other. We do this as a community, decide to help each other, and we don't charge money. They're the grants. You can't get grants from capitals. Well, you can a little bit, but they're not there for that.
Uh, and that's right. This is all Google, and that's the problem. Google only has capitalism. The other stuff is in there, but you'll never find it because everybody in capitalism is marketing to find you. Nobody markets to find you on here. They just have free money, free services, and everything to help people in the community.
You know, and you may know about it, you may not, and most people don't because it's so intertwined. But it's more than just the fire department. You know, people think, "Well, because that's the community." Okay, community is the fire department.
Uh, because if your house is on fire, uh, and you live in the community, you don't go over to Joe whose house is on fire and say, "Yeah, I help you, Joe, but I want to check your credit card first." You know, that's capitalism. He's going to help you if you have a credit card.
But our community helps people, whether it's, uh, paying your rent or getting a new job or whatever. We have 40% of everything in our economy comes from the community.
And, uh, my frustration is that the rich people know this, and the rest of us don't because it's complicated. There's no easy way to plug in like Google.
Uh, there's some things that may help, and this is how much it is. Now, every year, this is to show you the amount of budget. See, our total government is $7 trillion. I think you guys are about 10% of what we are or something like that.
Yeah, 10 times smaller, right?
Uh, and the amount that goes to individuals in grants in 2025 is $4.8 trillion out of the whole budget of $7 trillion. So that much is given to individuals in cash grants, right?
And that averages out to $1,787 per capita per adult, $18,000 for a family. That's 57, you know? I mean, it's just astounding, but there's no central place. And that's people, and what people do is they go to Google to try to find that, and they can't.
They'll run into people, "Okay, I need help paying rent," and they run to people to help them pay rent, uh, but they're going to charge you money somehow because they won't be there if they don't get money from you.
So that's the worst place to go if you want to get a grant because that may be in there, but you'll never find them, and everybody in there will ask you for money. And so you'll think that you have to have money to get a grant or whatever.
I don't know, uh, but the real grants are all for free. Don't charge money to do that. Uh, and, but people don't know where to go. So that's what I've devoted my life to for 50 years now, is trying to tell people where to go.
I always dreamt I was big and strong enough to tell everybody where to go, but that was a bad joke.
You say that that is done on purpose, that it's hard to find.
To line, uh, it's hard to say what everybody's motive is. The people who hate, I mean, we have a section of the country that believes the government should not give away money except to them.
And so they would maybe have a motive of trying to tell people. I mean, I get a lot of bad stuff like that, you know, uh, that I'm producing welfare, whatever, uh, like that.
I've been doing this so long it doesn't bother me, but it is for everybody. I mean, look at our country now. Uh, why is, why did Elon Musk give Donald Trump like $170 million for his campaign and is traveling around kissing his butt for three or four weeks now?
Because, uh, Elon already got $5 trillion in grants from the government, not trillion, billion. So he's got, uh, five billion million dollars, and he wants more because he knows it's easier to push the right buttons in the government to get this than it is to develop a new product or something that people want and make money that way.
You know, but, you know, and somebody who professes, uh, that you should do it all yourself, he really doesn't. And so we're all hypocrites, but we're all normally greedy.
Now, this is a typical program. I don't know if it's typical, but the kinds of programs, uh, that this is a program just started last year, um, in 2023, and this is a result of the first year that's giving out $8.4 billion for people to pay, uh, have trouble paying their utility bills.
So it's money now. It's going to be for 10 years. Every year they're going to give out this money. Okay, in the first year, this is who these are the people who got it.
Uh, the top 25% of income in America got 65% of all the money that was given out. So these are people from $100,000 to $100 million. So these are millionaires getting up to $40,000 or more to reduce their utility bills.
Now, it's a little tough for me to see that utility bills are that important for a millionaire that for some reason they need money or be on the street kind of thing, you know?
And so here's what the bottom 25% got. They got 0.001% of the money. So I would think they're the people really, if they don't pay a utility bill, they're out on the street, right?
And that they need that more than anybody, but the people who learn the system, you know, get the money. So that's what I'm trying to do is rep the number once again, the 0.00, yeah, 0.001. You know, it is next to nothing.
Okay, and the top 25% got 65% of all the money.
Well, that's a huge difference.
Yeah, but in their case, most of them, they do run companies, and I would assume they would use that for, say, if they run a manufacturing company.
Yeah, but that's not for this. The money has to go to reduce your utility bills. See, this is a program.
Okay, so it's more of a social program than...
Right, right, right. So right now, uh, now for entrepreneurs, there usually, no, there are some requirements on a lot of grants for entrepreneurs that are aimed at lower income, uh, but usually there are no income requirements, uh, on business grants.
And business grants are growing now because more than I've ever seen it in 50 years, particularly at the state and local level because that's where they need jobs created. You know, every elected official has to create jobs.
So if they could help you start a business that you're going to grow or just even give a job for yourself, um, you know, they're investing a lot of money in that.
Uh, but no, this is, uh, you know, for social, I guess, you know, as you call them. But no, they, and then there's others for job training.
See, to me, even like the job training, people don't know about. I mean, you can get in this country, there's so much money, particularly since the pandemic.
Uh, we don't have skills in this country. Um, you know, like 60, 70% of our workforce does not have a degree.
Um, and you needed it before, but now that's less so because we have a lot of high-paying jobs that no longer require a degree. You know, just big companies and even government offices are like cutting out a degree as a requirement.
You know, even, even going...
Yeah, that's going more and more because you need the skill. So, uh, that you could go, and the government will train you for a skill, you know, without having to sit because you don't want to take English classes, but you got to learn how to use this equipment or whatever it is, the technology, you know, to keep these businesses going and growing.
So that's available, and you can even get paid to learn that. So now there's really programs we have where you get paid $40,000 a year to get the skill after a few years to get a $100,000 a year job instead of going to a college and paying them $40,000 a year, maybe getting a job at Starbucks.
So that's the case.
Yeah, and I think, I don't know, I mean, there's a lot of things, particularly people without money, it's hard to get in their shoes how they live every day.
Like we give out grants, we give out $70,000 worth of individual grants for $5500 to $1,000 every month, and we have a deadline tomorrow, actually, for, um, you could spend on anything you want.
And we get at least 20% of the people don't pick up the money. You know, people with low income, their day is so confusing, and they're fighting three fire drills every day.
Yeah, and they don't have any money to douse the flames, kind of thing. Uh, and that, you know, I'm starting to understand more and more, um, you know, how do I get these people without, you know, the skills or the information of where to go to to go to get the help?
The other thing I feel that we haven't taught people we have to start using is getting away from the internet to get information. The internet's great. I got an MBA in management information systems, talk computer science, so it's not that it's bad, but it is, you know, like Google.
I mean, you want to get help in Google, and you'll get two billion websites, and most of them are to sell you something. So how do you find out what the good ones are?
And I believe you have to talk to people. You can't do that on the internet. And particularly in our country, that 40% that is our community, uh, that they are all there to tell you about this.
So you find the people. I don't know if you could do this. Are you able to get in government websites from Canada? You may not.
Yeah.
Oh, okay. Try this. Can you go online now? Uh, go to findhelp.net.
Okay.
Or do you have it? Are you there?
Findhelp.org.
Okay, put in, put in a zip code. Put in my ZIP code.
29.
Okay.
Yeah.
Do you see a big number in the middle, like how many sources there are?
There?
Yeah, I see there are 3,533. All of these sources are government or nonprofit. None of it will charge you, ever charge you money.
So they're all there to give you free money, free health.
Okay, this is what excites me. People don't know this, and this is just one. I know food, housing, goods, health, money care, education, work, legal.
All right, wow! Now, up in the top left again, put in like home repair.
You mean in the search?
Right, yeah. How many did you get?
I got, uh, let's see, one out of 10, so 225 pages.
And I think that's just 225 sources.
Uh, okay, so 225 sources in my ZIP code that give you free money and help for home repair. 225. Every one of them does that.
It's not Google where you get 200 million.
Yeah, and actually, you have to learn how to use that because you don't know what you're eligible for, even no matter how much they say.
And, uh, you have to understand the government's language, and that's too hard. And the way to use that the best is start calling. Calling is many people that are there. They're there to help you. That's what they do.
Maybe they're a pain in the ass or whatever. They hate you today. That's fine. You go on to the next one, and you ask them what you think you should do, uh, for home repair because they see these programs every day.
They know it all the time, and they know the new ones, and they're the best people to ask, not your Uncle Harry or whatever who got his own rep.
You talk to the pros, and these are pros that are all free to help you with that. I mean, that's what frustrates me. I mean, I got 200, whatever it is, for people, and how many people, you know, dying to get their house fixed, you know, and don't know about that?
And they're going to Google, uh, and apparently, I'm terrible at this work I do because it doesn't seem after 50 years much has changed.
Again, there's a lot of information below, but one other sign I think is good for your people is businesses. See, the same thing for businesses.
Now, businesses, there's some stuff in that find help, but the better place to go is our SBA, and not for money. They have a database that is like find help but just for businesses.
So you go to sba.gov and then slash local, all lowercase, local-assistance.sba.gov.
Okay, and there should be a place to put in your zip code.
Yep.
Okay, put in your ZIP code. You can put in mine, 18.
And then I usually put in 50 miles.
Yeah.
Okay, what do you got?
About 20, 30 organizations.
Uh, yeah, around there, about 30.
Yeah, so these are every one of those or than 50 of you or me, uh, that give free help for you to start or expand any business, help you find money, help you find technical help, help you find free legal help, accounting help, anything you need to start or expand a business, a nonprofit, your invention, you want to be a freelancer, real estate investor, anything for free.
Yeah, you're going to go on Google, and somebody's going to get you into a course that'll cost you thousands or hundreds or whatever, you know, to do this when you get one-on-one help right there for free.
That is awesome!
I think so, but I don't know why everybody... Definitely more people need to know. And it's like that for everything, whether it's health care, legal health.
There's not a problem you have that there isn't a free source in the government. We're spoiled. And that's why, see, the thing is you have to learn a different process to use these services.
We're used to having people want to sell us something, kiss our ass, right? So they're going to do everything to be nice to you. These people get paid no matter what.
So they can help you all day or all week or all year and still get the same paycheck, or they can hang up on you, and it doesn't affect anything.
So that's right. The only thing you have is your personality to be nice to want them to help you.
Yeah, and we're not taught like that or trained.
Yeah, I haven't heard, I mean, I've heard of the SBA. A lot of people in the business world like to talk about SBA loans, but haven't heard of the local assistance or fundhelp.org.
See, most of the business money is really local. You know, there's more grants local. They all, it's called economic development in, uh, in the government for local government, state government, county government, nonprofit organizations.
They all want people to thrive, and they do it by helping them start a business and grants. I mean, it's not easy, but it's there. I mean, nothing in life is really that easy, but we like, that's another problem I think with marketing.
We try to make it, "Hey, just one call, and you..." and that doesn't happen. But we're so anxious to get people to buy.
Uh, and, and what I do, yeah, that's the world we live in, right? Exactly.
Uh, and that's what I do. I give a 100% refund no matter what because when I only had a lot of my life spent, you trying to get a one-minute commercial to get people to buy something.
So I'm not going to tell you, "Yeah, it may work, it may not, I don't know." And I just show the best, and then, yeah, if you don't like it, don't worry, I'll refund just to educate people.
Yeah, oh, I've learned quite a lot myself. It was quite a conversation.
Well, that's what keeps me going. More and more people definitely need to know about this, this type of platforms, these websites, and they hate their government because they don't know what the hell it's doing.
They know all the bad. I mean, if you only saw my bad, you'd hate me too. I have my share of that.
Yeah, and they're going the wrong place. They're not looking at this good stuff, and that's a pity. So it gives me something to do. I'm 81, and I feel about 10, 15 years maybe, uh, going to be here every day I'm breathing.
I wake up in the morning, "Hey, I'm not underground yet. Great! I got a lot to do."
At your age, I wonder what you think.
I love the way you look at life. Just like you mentioned, like the last time when I asked you how your day goes, you said, "I'm still on the surface."
So that's right. Well, and it's helping people.
Yeah, yeah. Speaking of life, uh, is there, um, like when we had a previous conversation, we spoke about life. There are certain 20-year-olds who are life coaches.
Um, funny, that's the world in they diamond down now too. They, everybody, people who can't make it, they're life coaches.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, which is fine. Like, yeah, we all need help.
Yeah, their own client.
Yeah, because you kind of need to be just one chapter ahead of the other person, right?
Uh, this movie, I forgot the name, uh, where the guy was the sub teacher or he pretended to be a sub teacher, and, um, only at the end of the semester, uh, everyone at the college or university, I remember exactly, um, all the faculty realized that he's not a real teacher.
He just was showing up. The real teacher wasn't, like, something happened to him, and he just didn't show up.
And they asked him, "How could you teach these kids like when you didn't know anything about this topic?" He like, "I just needed to read one chapter to be one chapter in advance, and I could teach them that," which kind of makes sense because they, you know what I mean?
I was thinking I may have told you that story because that's what I did as a teacher. I was teaching, I was teaching computer science back in the 70s at one university, and I was taking the same course at another university and keeping my students a week behind what I was being taught.
So I must have stole that.
Go!
So that's, that's the real-life example.
Now, now I'm not going to say it's a movie, right?
Well, it, it, I think it's more all about caring and showing people attention.
Yeah, uh, and that's, I saw what growing kids, um, sending them up the room to study. If I sat down next to them in a study, that that's more effective than anything telling people that do something is being next to them while they do that, then they do it.
Yeah, uh, so we all want attention. I think we have, or our heart, and I don't know if I told you this, uh, first time, but that's what I'm working on now is growing my heart.
I mean, I can't get stronger, faster, smarter at 81, but I think I could love harder, and that's what I concentrate on in doing every day.
And that it's getting better makes me feel better the more I try to love people just try to be smarter or stronger.
That's what matters at the end of the day, honestly.
Yeah, well, that's, it's hard to come to that. I'm sure as a younger person it was there, but it was never out in front.
And maybe I had the muscles and everything else could be worked on, but now that ain't going to get better.
Oh, that's awesome. It's good to hear.
All right, so if you would have like a final advice for people who are listening to this podcast, what would that be?
From, I've got so far in this conversation, listening to your podcast, I think is probably the only thing anybody else in the world should do.
Yes, it's very important.
Uh, but from me, I think it to me is, uh, your heart is smarter than your brain, and you got to listen to your heart more.
We're not trained to do that. There's no course on listening to your heart. They just courses on how to get great advice.
But yeah, you got to, it's got to come from the inside. That's more important. You get the advice from the outside, but you don't bet the farm on that. You bet the farm on what's inside you because that's the only thing you can control a little bit too.
And that's what that's telling you what you really want to do, and that's why it's important to listen to that because you can't quantify it. You can't put it in a spreadsheet or anything.
And if you tell somebody else, they'll tell you it's nuts. You because they'll tell you all the things that are going to go wrong.
That's right. But see, if your heart's not behind it, to me, you won't get through all the bad stuff. Everything you're going to do in life is going to have bad.
Yeah, and there's no way out of that. So to me, the way to reduce that is to follow your heart so you're there for the right reason.
Yeah, and you'll get through it.
That's an amazing advice. I don't think a 20-year-old would have that kind of advice.
All right, well, thanks a lot for being on the show. How can people connect with you?
Uh, letcohelp.com.
Yeah, awesome! Or if they don't want me, uh, I have like 89,000 videos on YouTube, Matthew Lasko on YouTube.
Yeah, wow! Yeah, we'll definitely, uh, I've checked some of those, but I didn't realize that there are that many.
Oh, yeah, but we'll definitely add those, the link to the keynotes, great, to the show notes.
Great! Thank you, Alex. Pleasure.
Yeah, let me know if I can for being on the show, and I do appreciate your time.
My pleasure. Take care.
You sounded a little like Carter.
Sweet! That was a really interesting episode.
Oh, thanks!
How do you get out of this thing?
Uh, just click on, uh, leave right there. You see it on the right side?
But I can, I will.
I'll turn, yeah, yeah. So then we'll let you know when the episode is ready. We'll send you the short form content so you can share with your audience as well.
You, we do. I'm a ham. I want everybody to know.
Yeah, sounds good to me.
Um, I wanted to ask you, so, um, it was, let me check. So it was CAD that who filled out the form, right?
Kate?
Yeah, right, Kate.
Yeah, or Cat.
Okay, Kate, right. In her email, she just said Cat.
So right, okay.
Um, yeah, no, because the reason I asked, because one of the things that we have in the form is, um, since, like I mentioned last time, uh, we run a marketing consultancy where we help clients with their marketing systems, U automations from bringing in leads and clients.
And over here, she mentioned that she wants to learn more how to build that. Is that something that's maybe for her?
Should...
Yeah, sure, of her because she probably wants, I mean, I'll help in any way I can, but sounds good to me.
Yeah, then, well, that being said, I'll let you know when, uh, the episode is, um, live, and I wish you a great year ahead. It just started.
A lot of good, bad.
Okay, Alex, talk to you soon.
Thank you!
Talk to you.
Bye-bye!
Sounded nice.