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AGI: (gets close), Humans: ‘Who Gets to Own it?’

AI Explained22:18

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The world may be waking up to the fact that intelligence will be automated sooner than anyone could have imagined a few years ago. But it is still sleeping when it comes to who gets the spoils. Just today, the Vice President of America said AI will never replace workers and only boost productivity. Then again, Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, wrote just yesterday that he could see labor losing its power to capital. The Rand Corporation, a famous think tank, put out a paper just the other day that said the world isn't ready for the “job losses and societal unrest” it thinks might accompany a more general artificial intelligence.

Even if labor does lose, capital can't decide who gets the money. Just today, Musk and Co. challenged Sam Altman and Microsoft for control of OpenAI itself. Of course, there are always papers like this one from Stanford suggesting that the reasoning enhancements needed to bring a model to frontier capability are achievable for just $20. This makes me think you guys can afford AGI after all. Meanwhile, Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic, makers of Claude, says that time is running out to control AGI itself. I just think that when the day inevitably comes that we must confront the full automation of intelligence, I just hope we are a little more unified than we are now.

There is too much to cover, as always, so let's just cut it down to the seven most interesting developments, using the Altman essay as the jumping-off point for each. First off, he gives his fifth, or maybe fifteenth, different definition for AGI, but this time it's: “we mean it to be a system that can tackle increasingly complex problems at human level in many fields.” Well, under that definition, we are getting awfully close. Take coding, where we heard in December that the O3 model was the 175th highest-ranked coder in Codeforces ELO. Now that might not mean much to many people, but just yesterday in Japan, Altman said they now have internally the 50th highest-scoring competitor. We're clearly well beyond imitation learning. These systems—O1, O3, O4—they're not copying those top 50 competitors' coding; they are trying things out themselves and teaching themselves through reinforcement learning what works. We are not capped at the human level, and that applies to way more than just coding.

I've been using Deep Research from OpenAI on the Pro tier this week to at least suggest diagnoses for a relative, and a doctor I know said that it found things that she wouldn't have thought of. Of course, it does hallucinate fairly frequently, but it also thinks of things you might not have thought of. And remember, this is O3 searching maybe 20 sources; what about O5 searching 500? And you might say, well, knowing stuff is cool, but white-collar workers actually take actions on their computers. Well, Karina Nenova from OpenAI has this to say on task saturation: “They're saturating all the benchmarks, and post-chaining itself is not hitting the wall. Basically, we went from like raw data thoughts from from featuring models to infinite amount of tasks that you can teach the model in the post-chaining world via reinforcement learning. So any task, for example, like how to search the web, how to use the computer, how to write a well—like all sorts of tasks that you like trying to teach the model all the different skills—and that's why we're saying like there's no data wall or whatever because there will be infinite amount of tasks, and that's how the model becomes extremely super intelligent, and we are actually getting saturated in all benchmarks. So I think the bottleneck is actually in evaluations.” There's a reason I can believe that, even though their current operator system, only available on Pro for $200 a month, is quite janky. It's because tasks like buying something online or filling out a spreadsheet are mostly verifiable, and whenever you hear verifiable or checkable, think ready to be absolutely eaten by reinforcement learning, just like domains like code where you can see the impact of enhanced reinforcement learning from O1 preview to O3.

Next is the investment that must go in to make all of this happen. Sam Altman had this to say later on in the essay: “The scaling laws that predict intelligence improvements have been accurate over many orders of magnitude. Give or take, the intelligence of an AI model roughly equals the log of the resources used to train and run it.” So think of that as: the resources you put in to get one incremental step forward in intelligence. Doesn't sound super impressive until you read the third point, and I agree with this point: the socioeconomic value of linearly increasing intelligence; each increment is super exponential. In short, if someone could somehow double the intelligence of O3, it wouldn't be worth four times more to me, and I think to many people, it would be worth way, way more than that; it would be super exponential. He goes on: “A consequence of this is that we see no reason for the exponentially increasing investment to stop in the near future.” In other words, if AI will always pay you back tenfold for what you invest in it, why ever stop investing? Many forget this, but less than two years ago, Altman himself said that his grand idea is that OpenAI will capture much of the world's wealth through the creation of AGI and then redistribute it to the people. We're talking figures like not just $100 billion, but a trillion or even $100 trillion. That's coming from him only. If AGI does create all that wealth, he's not sure how the company will redistribute it. To give you a sense of scale, as you head towards $100 trillion, you're talking about the scale of the entire labor force of the planet. And that, of course, brings us to others who don't want him to have that control, or maybe want that control for themselves.

As you may have heard, Elon Musk has bid almost $100 billion for OpenAI, or at least it's a bid for the nonprofit which currently controls OpenAI. To save you reading half a dozen reports, essentially it looks like Sam Altman and OpenAI have valued that nonprofit stake in OpenAI at around $40 billion. That leaves plenty of equity left for Microsoft and OpenAI itself, including its employees. However, if Musk and others have valued that stake at $100 billion, then it might be very difficult in court for Altman and Co. to say it's worth only $40 billion. So even if they reject, as it seems like they have done, Musk's offer, it forces them to potentially dilute the stake owned by Microsoft and the employees. Altman said to the employees at OpenAI that these are just tax tactics to try and weaken us because we're making great progress. The nonprofit behind OpenAI could also reject the offer because it thinks that AGI wouldn't be safe in the hands of Musk. At this point, I just can't resist doing a quick plug for a mini-documentary I released on my Patreon just yesterday. It actually covers the origin stories of DeepMind, OpenAI, the tussle with Musk and Anthropic, and how the founding vision of each of those AGI labs went awry. This time, by the way, I used a professional video editor, and the early reviews seem to be good. All the shenanigans that are going on with the nonprofit at OpenAI seem worthy of an entire video on their own, so for now I'm going to move on to the next point.

Altman predicted that with the advent of AGI, the price of many goods will eventually fall dramatically. Seems like one way to assuage people who lose their jobs or see their wages drop is that, well, at least your TV is cheaper. But he did say the price of luxury goods and land may rise even more dramatically. Now I don't know what you think, but I live in London, and the price of land is already pretty dramatic, so who knows what it will be after AGI? But just on that luxury goods point, I think Altman might have one particular luxury good in mind. Yesterday in London, Altman was asked about their hardware device, designed in part by Jony Ive from Apple, and he said, “It’s incredible; it really is. I’m proud of it, and it’s just a year away.” Yes, by the way, I did apply to be at that event, but you had to have certain org IDs, which I didn't. One thing that might not be a luxury device are smaller language models. In leaked audio of that same event, he apparently said, “Well, one idea would be we put out O3 and then open-source O3 mini. We put out O4 and open-source O4 mini.” He added, “This is not a decision but directionally you could imagine us saying this.” Take all of that for what it is worth.

The next jumping-off point comes in the first sentence, actually, of this essay, which is that the mission of OpenAI is to ensure that AGI benefits all of humanity—not that they make AGI; that they make an AGI that benefits all of humanity. Now, originally when they were founded, which I covered in the documentary, the charter was that they make AGI that benefits all of humanity, unencumbered by the need for a financial return. But that last bit's gone, but we still have that it benefits all of humanity—not most of humanity, by the way; benefits all of humanity. I really don't know how they are going to achieve that when they themselves admit that the vast majority of human labor might soon become redundant. Even if they somehow got implemented a benevolent policy in the US to make sure that everyone was looked after, how could you ensure that for other nations? After watching Yoshua Bengio, one of the godfathers of AI—and I'll show you the clip in a second—I did have this thought: it seems to me if a nation got to AGI or superintelligence one month, three months, six months before another one, it's not the most likely that they would use that advantage to just wipe out other nations. I think more likely would be to wipe out the economies of other nations. The US might automate the economy of, say, China, or China the US, and then take that wealth and distribute it amongst its people. And Yoshua Bengio thinks that that might even apply at the level of companies. I can see from the declarations that are made, and you know what, you know logically these people would do is that the people who control these uh systems, like like say OpenAI potentially, um they're not going to continue just selling the access to their AI, um they're going to give access to, you know, a a a a lower-grade AI; they're going to keep the really powerful ones for themselves, and they're going to build companies that are to compete with the non-AI, you know, systems that exist, and they're going to basically wipe out the economies of all the other countries which don't have these systems, don't have these superintelligence systems. So it's it's you you know you you say it's you wrote it's not existential, but I think it is existential for uh countries who don't build up to this kind of level of um AI, and um it's it's an emergency because it's going to take at least several years even with with a coalition of the willing to to bridge that.

Just very quickly, I can't help, because he mentioned competitor companies, to mention Gemini 2 Pro and PaLM 2 from Google; new models from Google DeepMind. There's also, of course, Gemini Thinking, which replicates the kind of reasoning traces of, say, O3 mini or DeepSeek R1. Now, straight off, the benchmark results of these models are decent, but not stratospheric for the most part. We're not talking O3 or DeepSeek R1 levels on simple benchmarks. We're rate-limited, but it seems like the scores of both the thinking mode and Gemini 2 Pro will gravitate around the same level as the “Gemini Experimental 126.” But I will say this: I know it's kind of niche, Gemini is amazing at quickly reading vast amounts of PDFs and other files. No, its transcription accuracy of audio, and I've tested, isn't going to be at the level of, say, AssemblyAI, and no, its coding is no O3, and its “Deep Research” button is no Deep Research. But the Gemini series are great at extracting text from files, and they are incredibly cheap, so I'm quite impressed. And I do suspect, as ChatGPT just recently overtook Twitter to become the sixth most visited site and slowly starts closing in on Google, that Google will invest more and more and more to ensure that Gemini 3 is state-of-the-art.

Altman wrote about a likely path that he sees is AI being used by authoritarian governments to control their population through mass surveillance and loss of autonomy. And that remark brings me to the Rand paper that, for some reason, I read in full, because they're worried by not just mass surveillance by authoritarian dictatorships, but other threats to “national security”: wonder weapons, systemic shifts in power (kind of talked about that earlier with, say, China automating the economy of the US), non-experts empowered to develop weapons of mass destruction, artificial entities with agency (think O6 kind of coming alive), and instability. This is Rand again, which has been around for over 75 years and is not known for dramatic statements. Again, I would ask, though, that if the US does a “large national effort” to ensure that they obtain a decisive AI-enabled wonder weapon before China—say, three months before, six months before—then what are you really going to use it for? To disable the tech sector of China? For me, the real admission comes towards the end of this paper, where they say the US is not well positioned to realize the ambitious economic benefits of AGI without widespread unemployment and accompanying societal unrest. And I still remember the days when Altman used to say in interviews, just around two years ago, he said stuff like: “If AGI produces the kind of inequality that he thinks it will, people won't take it anymore.”

Let's now, though, get to some signs that AGI might not even be controlled by countries or even companies. For less than $50 worth of compute time—of course, not counting research time—but for around, apparently, $20 worth of compute time, affordable for all of you guys, Stanford produced S1. Now, yes, of course, they did utilize an open-weight base model, Quen 2.5, 32 billion parameters, instruct; but the headline is: with just a thousand questions worth of data, they could bring that tiny model to being competitive with O1. This is in science, GPQA, and competition-level mathematics. The key methodology was: whenever the model wanted to stop, they forced it to continue by adding “wait”—literally the token “wait”—multiple times to the model's generation when it tried to end. Imagine you sitting an exam, and every time you think you've come to an answer and you're ready to write it down, a voice in your head says, “Wait.” That's kind of what happened until the student, or you, had taken a set amount of time on the problem appropriately. Then this is called test-time scaling: scaling up the amount of tokens spent to answer each question. I've reviewed the questions, by the way, in the Math 500 benchmark, and they are tough. So to get 95%, at least the hard ones, the level-five ones, are—so to get 95% in that is impressive. Likewise, of course, to get beyond 60% in GPQA Diamond, which roughly matches the level of PhDs in those domains. To recap: this is an off-the-shelf open-weight model trained with just a thousand questions and reasoning traces. There were some famed professors in this Stanford team, and their goal, by the way, was to replicate this chart on the right, which came in September from OpenAI. Now we kind of already know that the more pre-training you do and post-training with reinforcement learning you do, the better the performance will be, but what about time taken to actually answer questions? Test-time compute—that's the chart they wanted to replicate.

Going back to the S1 paper, they say: “Despite the large number of O1 replication attempts, none have openly replicated a clear test-time scaling behavior.” And look how they have done so. I'm going to simplify their approach a little bit because it's the finding that I'm more interested in, but essentially they sourced 59,000 tough questions: physics olympiads, astronomy, competition-level mathematics, and AGI eval. I remember covering that paper like almost two years ago on this channel. They got Gemini Thinking, the one that outputs thinking tokens like DeepSeek R1 does, to generate reasoning traces and answers for each of those 59,000 examples. Now they could have just trained on all of those examples, but that did not offer substantial gains over just picking a thousand of them. Just a thousand examples in, say, your domain to get a small model to be a true reasoner, then, of course, get it to think for a while with that “wait” trick. How to filter down from 59,000 examples to 1,000, by the way? First, decontaminate: you don't want any questions that you're going to use to then test the model. Of course, remove examples that rely on images that aren't found in the question, for example, and other formatting stuff. But more interestingly, difficulty and diversity. This is the kind of diversity that even JD Vance would get behind. On difficulty, they got smaller models to try those questions, and if those smaller models got the questions right, they excluded them; they must be too easy. On diversity, they wanted to cover as many topics as possible from mathematics and science, for example. They ended up with around 20 questions from 50 different domains. They then fine-tuned that base model on those thousand examples with the reasoning traces from Gemini. And if you're wondering about DeepSeek R1, they fine-tuned with 800,000 examples. Actually, you can see that in this chart on the right here. Again, it wasn't just about fine-tuning; each time the model would try to stop, they said, “Wait,” sometimes two, four, or six times to keep boosting performance. Basically, it forces the model to check its own output and see if it can improve it. Notice “wait” is fairly neutral; you're not telling the model that it's wrong; you're saying, “Wait, maybe do we need to check that?” They also tried scaling up majority voting or self-consistency, and it didn't quite have the same slope. Suffice to say, though, if anyone watching is in any confusion, getting these kind of scores in GPQA, Google Proof Question and Answer, and competition-level mathematics, it's insane; incredibly impressive. Of course, if you took this same model and tested it in a different domain, it would likely perform relatively poorly. Also, side note: when they say open data, they mean those thousand examples that they fine-tune the base model on. The actual base model doesn't have open data, so it's not truly open data, as in we don't know everything that went into the base model, everything that Quen 2.5, 32 billion parameters, was trained on. Interestingly, they would have gone further, but the actual context window of the underlying language model constrains it. And Karpathy, in his excellent ChatGPT video this week, talked about how it's an open research question about how to extend the context window suitably at the frontier. It's a three-and-a-half-hour video, but it's a definite recommend from me.

Actually, speaking of Karpathy, his reaction to this very paper was: “Cute idea; reminds me of ‘let’s think step-by-step’ trick.” That’s where you told the model to think step-by-step, so it spent more tokens to reason first before giving you an answer. Here, by saying “wait,” we’re forcing the model to think for longer. Both lean, he said, on the language prior to steer the thoughts. And speaking of spending your time well by watching a Karpathy video, I would argue you can spend your money pretty well by researching which, say, charity to give to through GiveWell. They are the sponsors of this video, but I’ve actually been using them for, I think, 13 years. They have incredibly rigorous methodology, backed by 60,000-plus hours of research each year, on which charities save the most lives. Essentially, the one that I’ve gone for for actually all of those 13 years is the Against Malaria Foundation. I think it started in the UK. Anyway, do check out GiveWell; the links are in the description, and you can even put in where you first heard of them, so obviously you could put, say, AI Explained. But alas, we are drawing to the end, so I’ve got one more point from the Altman essay that I wanted to get to. In previous essays, he’s talked about the value of labor going to zero. Now he just talks about the balance of power between capital and labor getting messed up, but interestingly he adds: “This may require early intervention.” Now, OpenAI have funded studies into UBI with, let’s say, mixed results. So it’s interesting he doesn’t specifically advocate for universal basic income; he just talks about early intervention, then talks about compute budgets and being open to strange-sounding ideas. But I would say, if AGI is coming in two to five years, then the “early intervention” would have to happen, say, now. I must confess, though, at this stage that I feel like we desperately need preparation for what’s coming, but it’s quite hard to actually specifically say what I’m advocating the preparation be.

Then we get renewed calls, just today, from the CEO of Anthropic, Dario Amodei, about how AI will become a “country of geniuses in a data center,” possibly by 2026 or 2027, and almost certainly no later than 2030. He said that governments are not doing enough to hold the big AI labs to account and measure risks, and at the next international summit—there was one just this week—we should not repeat this missed opportunity. These issues should be at the top of the agenda. The advance of AI presents major new global challenges. We must move faster and with greater clarity to confront them. I mean, I’m—and I think many of you are—that change is coming very rapidly and sooner than the vast majority of people on the planet think. The question for me that I’ll have to reflect on is: well, what are we going to do about it? Let me know what you think in the comments, but above all, thank you so much for watching to the end, and have a wonderful day.