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this general feeling that people have

that you're an anti-semite address that

head off Judaism is a faith Israel is a

state and it is not above critique and

that what BB Netanyahu has done for the

Palestinians since October 7th is a

holocaust this was about power and this

was about control I'm not going to quiet

my perspective on that to cow toow to

whatever the prevailing narrative is at

the New York coast all of my gay friends

are like they better not hold a trial

within you know 50 miles of Hell's

Kitchen in New York this hot assassin

executed a woman executive would you be

saying any of this I have no idea why

Don Lemon is still speaking on the Jay-Z

recent stuff I don't believe it I looked

into that case and I actually don't

believe that lot of holes in there a lot

of people in Hollywood are perverts

they're drug addicts they believe that

they are gods and you once said Jay-Z is

like God to me how do you feel about him

now did I say this you did oh was God

past 10 I was like what are we talking

about chanice it's been great to see it

too much fun

when my next guest went independent

earlier this year some people openly

hoped well she'd vanished in public life

but no such luck the UNC cancellable

Candice Owens is more successful

influential and of course controversial

than ever and for the first time ever

she joins me here in the uncensored

Studio candy Owens I'm so pleased to be

here we meeting my Lair At Last I like

it and interestingly I've just done your

podcast today and it experience you you

were nice I mean you were sort of human

you were warm you were quite friendly

you were Charming you I waited for the

sting in the tail the the combat the

gotches it never happened it never

happens I'm actually so nice either

you're massively

misunderstood or you're softening your

old age what's happening here no I am

always nice to everyone I'm just on the

receiving end of so many gachas and I'm

constantly in defense mode so people see

me and they perceive me as always

battling and actually I'd rather just

exchange ideas and learn what people

believe but it's just not possible today

in today's social economy of just

constantly trying to get each other and

oh I've proved Pierce Morgan's racist

see I tricked him I just want to know

who you are you know it's very

interesting because I've Got a Theory

this is the the remake of trump for

example is that in the longer form

interviews he gave in the election

campaign the big podcast Joe Rogan three

hours and so on people heard and saw a

lot more of him than they normally did

and they like what they heard and saw

and he liked the response he was getting

and it it went from being endless combat

with the Legacy Media where it's like

press conferences bang bang bang bang

bang it's 10 minute soundbite interviews

bang bang bang bang bang it went to a

much longer less confrontational more

open-minded series of discussions where

both sides and the people listening and

watching felt like they got a different

Trump altogether out of it and I think

it has changed him I was like pleading

with them to do that start doing

podcasts because we get it you go to NBC

they hate you you're going to fight with

them they're going to say you're racist

you're sexist you're misogynistic what

is the public learning from this the

most fascinating interview he did I

thought was with theovon when he was so

genuinely trying to understand the

theon's prior addiction and that's such

a compelling story because Trump has

never drank as you know his entire life

he lost his brother Fred that's the side

of trump that people want to see and

there was actually I think it was slate

that did a piece recently trying to

understand the new podcast economy and

why conservatives have been so powerful

and they sort of noted that in this new

Joe Rogan economy as they called it

authenticity cells and people are either

reading you to be authentic or they're

reading you to be somebody that's just a

clone and so I think that's what people

like about my podcast and that's what I

just try to do is just be myself you

broke away from the daily wi is all well

documented or was fired one or the other

whatever you want to call it doesn't

matter does it um same when I left the

morning show I was out um and you went

out on your own again I mean it's it's

it's it's a tricky thing to do that when

you've you've been part of a big big

media conglomerate success story in New

Media like daily w go out on your own

how did you feel when you went

catapulting back into Independence and

how has it worked out for you do you

think you know I think for most people

it's easier because you leave and

they're not trying to sort of tarnish

your reputation I kind of left in a

period where they were there was a just

a full-blown effort to cancel Candace

Owens like it was like we don't want her

to be able to survive it was every Petty

smear that you could possibly come up

with and I wasn't expecting that

especially after working as hard as I

did at the daily wire for for three and

a half years but I loved it because you

need those reminders in life like you

fight the hardest when your back is

against a wall and so I just turned it

around and it motivated me and I was

just excited about being able to take on

conversations that because of course we

all when you're a part of a larger

organization do have to do a little bit

of self-censoring because well you know

maybe the execs don't think that or

don't believe that you have to kind of

convince them about your side and so

it's been just a tremendous opportunity

so much growth and my husband's

absolutely brilliant so he figured out

the business side of it and I just do

what I do best talk on the internet I

like gold the daily guys and I like yeah

and if that gets me cancelled so be it

um but but I do and and it was a shame

to me that you all fell out like that do

you think you'll fall back together in a

in a more friendly way or not you know I

don't even think of it as a falling out

I think we're just different people at

the end of the day and I think that's

okay nobody you don't have to be friends

with everyone I was never friends with

Ben Shapiro he didn't even work in the

office so I think people think that

we're all working together all day I

still maintained my friendships with all

of the other that I saw every day and uh

I learned a lot there so I have I have

no regrets about the time that I spent

there tons of Lessons Learned no hard

feelings whatsoever because you know I

made my show bigger and was able to lean

in more into being myself so who's to be

upset about anything one of the the

narratives at the time was that uh

you're anti-semitic as you know and on

Sunday you were named anti-semite of the

Year by the Watchdog stop anti-Semitism

it said you blew the competition away

with more votes than anyone in previous

years and their founder Leora Rez told

the New York Times New York Post I'm

sorry Candice Owens uh witch's brew of

anti-Semitism Drew from vile medieval

blood libl claims that Jews drink

Christian blood conspiracies that Jews

are pedophiles who control the media and

Are Taking Over America modern toxic

anti-israel hysteria there is no

psychotic Rabbit Hole too extreme for

this poisonous hater now we'll come to

the specifics of that charge which are

obviously pretty fullon this general

feeling that people have

that you're an anti-s semi address that

headon well it's actually not even a

general feeling so that what's really

remarkable is if you go underneath that

post or go find the New York Post Post

every single comment is in my favor and

so we've gotten to this point now where

the charges of anti-Semitism are kind of

going through the exact same routine

that the charges of racism did back with

BLM like first people took that very

seriously like if I said Piers you're a

white supremacist you would have just

been astonished because who wants to be

called the white supremacist but then

you started to realize this was about

power and this was about control and

this was about trying to manipulate

people to take your perspective and post

October 7th you know you had a what I

refer to him as like the leud Party

media in America I count the New York

Post among them who just insisted that

unless you agreed with everything that

BB Netanyahu was doing and and towed a

very specific line they were going to

smear and liable you and ruin your life

and you know a lot of people I think

shered at that and kind of wanted to

keep their head low I didn't play that

game with my own Community I was willing

to take all of the figurative bullets

with black America calling me a race

traitor

um a a self-hating black person whatever

it was I don't View Jewish people to be

some exception where you're allowed to

Now call everybody anti-semites because

you can't actually debate what BB

Netanyahu is doing and why so many

people around the world are not

comfortable with it so it yes they can

award that all they want uh people are

mocking it it's now become like

cartoonish and they have unfortunately

or fortunately completely removed the

power uh from that term what is your

view of Jewish people of Judaism yeah

for the record what's your my view is

that uh you know Judaism is a faith

Israel is a state and it is not above

critique and that what BB Netanyahu has

done to the Palestinians 6 October 7th

is a Holocaust there is a holocaust that

is being committed on Palestinian

children and women and I'm not going to

quiet my perspective on that you know to

cow toow to whatever the prevailing

narrative is at the New York Post I had

Dan buaran on on sensor recently I got

to say it took a pretty shocking turn

interview I hadn't fully facted in just

how in my opinion after talking to him

brazenly anti-semitic he is and this

included this clip

here do you not understand why Jewish

people might feel a sense of victimhood

given that 6 million of them were killed

in World War II by a genocidal monster

in the Holocaust do you not understand

why that might make Jewish people feel

yes they have indeed been victims yeah I

mean that figure has been revised they

said that it was four million that died

in oswit and then they said it was down

to a million so they've revised the

figure well how many people how many how

many people do you think were killed in

theol 71,000 that died in Ash how many

do you think were killed in the Holy

caust

um I don't know but I would bet my

entire net worth that it was under 6

million the evidence all says that it

was less than 6 million I mean just the

mathematics don't work like you can't

cremate that many bodies I'm sorry but I

just find that unbelievably offensive

and I'm not even

Jewish you see this is where I'm I'm

like you I think there's been a

weaponization of all these things

whether you're transphobic you're racist

you're sexist you're anti-semitic

whatever it may be your islamophobic I

mean people just spray this stuff around

all the time to the extent where it does

become meaningless and actually people

who are genuinely are those things they

get caught up in the wash and almost

protected by the kind of wash of stuff

but when you hear someone like Damar

what what do you feel about someone like

him yes so I actually didn't watch that

interview so I haven't seen it in its

full context and I try never to weigh in

on Clips because there'll be something

I'm missing and then everybody screams

at me uh but what I will say is this the

larger discussion that's happening right

now is whether or not having survived a

holocaust gives you the permission to

commit a holocaust and for whatever

reason people have been what I would say

milking the Holocaust narrative in the

same way that black Americans were

milking the slavery narrative and

essentially saying like we lived through

this and we surv survived this and so

now nobody can say that anything we do

is wrong and that's the big issue today

is that we have so many people that will

not recognize that it is totally

feasible that a Jewish person and I'm

speaking here about BB Netanyahu could

do something as horrific as what was

done to the Jews throughout World War II

or throughout history but but is that an

accurate comparison I'll tell and I'll

tell you why I say that as we know I

mean whatever damul are wants people to

believe 6 million Jews were killed in

the Holocaust another 6 million people

were murdered by Hitler the Nazis the

numbers of people being killed in in

Gaza are in my view have gone way beyond

what is acceptable as a response to

October the 7th however you're still

talking about at the moment a death toll

of under 50,000 there there's no

comparison in the amount of dead people

compared to the Holocaust is it you

understand why but it is a holocaust

what's happening well is it though yes

language is really important I think

language is really important as well and

that's why people say Holocaust genocide

hoca the burning bodies of the that I'm

see every day and we about this a little

bit on my but like I have recognized

that the ability to see this stuff every

day has transformed my opinion maybe the

numbers wouldn't have gotten so high if

people had spoken up when it was

happening at the very beginning during

World War I and so I want to use my

platform to say that I believe that they

are intentionally executing a holocaust

I think uh BB Netanyahu there's tons of

evidence and obviously the Western media

is not reporting on this but the

corruption trials that are going on with

BB Netanyahu pertaining to October 7th

and him editing the transcripts and the

prior knowledge that he knew is is now

becoming extremely pertinent it is a

question as to whether or not he allowed

the attacks to take place um essentially

to then be able to go in and to commit

this Holocaust against the Palestinians

now based on everything that I've looked

into and stuff that I had not seen

before because the Western media doesn't

cover it BB Netanyahu caught off camera

speaking about how he had no intention

of following the Abraham Accords and how

he was going to get around it he has I

believe genocidal Ambitions and that's

enough we don't need to dispute go

backward or forward do I think BB

Netanyahu has genocidal Ambitions

against the Palestinians the answer is

yes do you think he's a war criminal yes

I believe he's a war criminal and I

think that the issue is how much power

he has particularly in America and I I

want to make sure that I'm um just

crossing or or I guess uh making that

clear to people across the pond you know

in America we have lobbying you guys

don't have lobbying here and so this is

why it might seem but not to the same

degree yes like APAC spent $100 million

in our elections and what that means is

that they're able to write fellowships

they're able to pay journalist they're

able to pay people to attack and take

down people who speak against their

initiatives and they are ape I would say

is very much Pro leud party Pro BB

Netanyahu and this is why you have seen

people like me being attacked in the way

that they have been attacked for what I

believe is just a human stance on what's

happening to the Palestinians I don't

care if you had flipped it if had if it

had not been Israelis if it had been you

know the M if it had been Christians

doing this to to to Muslims I would say

the exact same thing based on the images

that I've seen but there was a ton of

evidence that BB Netanyahu allowed

October 7th to take place including the

things that we found out because I now

read heret daily to to we don't actually

think he knew it was going to happen um

well let's just talk about the facts

don't we don't have to speculate on that

what we do know is that they did

intercept the hostage Plan before it

took place right the 250 hostages that

came out in heret media um we also know

that Egypt gave them prior morning a

warning that the attacks were going to

take place Egypt said that they were

being ignored uh that was a fact I've

been to Israel have you been to Israel

we know it's the size of New Jersey we

know that it takes 15 minutes to get

from one end to the other and we know

that every 5T there's a person in your

face holding a gun that attack went on

for two hours without interruption I

find that hard to believe and this gets

to the uh I guess you could say the

nucleus of the corruption trial against

him when now he's even arguing with the

IDF Minister who he fired uh yav Galant

am I saying last name correctly um where

they're saying that some funny stuff

happened on October 7th and they have

they are explicitly accusing him of

feeding lies to the Western media this

is crucial you know and it this this

could be the undoing of everything if we

find out that he had prior knowledge and

we do know for a fact that he said that

he intentionally wanted to take over

Palestinian territory you should find

that clip and play it on the show

because it's it's very significant when

the he asked the reporter to turn off

the camera and then he starts speaking

about his plans for the Palestinians

this this was years ago I think biet and

yahu is a monster and I think the people

that are still standing by him and

supporting him you know I I wouldn't

want to have that on my conscience

conscience let's turn to the the

Palestinians who I think have been

appallingly oppressed for many decades

I've made no secret of that but what

Hamas did on behalf of the Palestinian

people October 7th was an utterly

heinous terrorist attack absolutely no

question about it so my question would

be let's go back to October the 8th what

should have been Israel's response to

that given the scale of it well um first

and foremost there had to be a response

and we know that the IDF is very capable

of a surgical tactical response because

they've done it over the years plenty of

times in which they're able to take out

terrorists we just watched them execute

a beeper attack and hit out Hamas

terrorists so this I think it's a very

relevant point because if they could do

that to 3,000 Hezbollah terrorists why

couldn't they be as precise with Hamas

because they don't want to be they want

to level it because they want to take it

over and I believe and you can see this

by the way in the videos of the settlers

dancing I mean why why do they have

settlers already ready that doesn't that

seem strange that this quickly you

already have settlers that are going in

and taking over the territory and you're

hanging you know children's toys what

should Israel have done though what

would have been they should have just

taken out the Hamas terrorists I never

how do you do that when they're embedded

amongst well that listen I I'm not an

IDF Minister but what I can say is going

back to that beeper attack it seems

pretty precise and there have been many

examples of them doing that in the past

so I just don't buy the BS of like you

know we actually just have to take down

entire towers and buildings doesn't even

make sense I mean I'm not an engineering

major but um if you're telling me that

there's a tunnel under everywhere you

only have to hit a tunnel at a couple of

points to render it completely useless

um so the idea that they had to level

the entire Place Plus go out into

refugee camps doesn't make any sense

like I said I think their goal and as

they do they have all these policies

mowing the law you where they they kill

a certain amount of Palestinians every

year this is this is genocidal the aims

here are genocidal your father-in-law

very highly uh well regarded man in this

country Lord Michael farmy said the

Israeli Defense Forces were acting in a

highly accountable way in an extremely

complex and difficult environment we

cannot forget that they have been forced

to prosecute this war obviously a

different interpretation of events there

have you discussed this with him yeah I

mean I I try to separate my politics

from his politics because I I think it's

it's unfair in any family to say well

what does your mom think what does your

cousin think what does my sister think

my sister's a Democrat you know um what

I can say is I I I deeply respect him

he's done a tremendous amount of work

and I want to say this I was on the

Zionist side let's not forget this for

years I worked for Prager University I

worked for daily wire and so I'm I was

much more sympathetic uh to I would say

the Zionist cause throughout my entire

career but the difference is and I think

we spoke about this on my podcast

generationally with the access of social

media being able to see these things

every day versus the person who as you

described it as you are still you're

kind of a combo who hears the thud of

the newspaper and reads the newspaper

and believes that or you know this kind

of becomes or colors their world view is

very different social media completely

transformed my perspective on what's

happening in Israel and Palestine and

I'm disgusted with myself for not being

more awake that's interesting because

can social media also can it wrongly

skew a narrative in other words can it

reinforce one view which is very quickly

established I I was astonished how

quickly The Narrative after October the

7th became anti-israel and very Pro

Palestinians stroke Hamas in many cases

um I found that quite terrifying that

that was the case notwithstanding my own

view about how Palestinians have been

treated before that but could it be I

mean you're a very smart person but you

say that you were affected by social

media social media was incredibly

partisan behind the Palestinians almost

immediately to the extent where I would

argue looking back at the whole time

that I've argued persistently well what

would be proportionate I can't think of

anything Israel could have done given

that Hamas were embedding themselves

among civilians I don't know how they

could have attacked Hamas without being

criticized whatever they did they would

have been criticized but not to this

degree everyone was expecting a response

and myself included we're like you said

and we agree on this they we're way past

that so that's not even a question

anymore there had to have been a

response and you are correct that no

matter what the response would have been

criticized but now there are questions

about whether or not like I said they

allowed this attack to happen and I

think this corruption trial will tell us

much more my instincts are telling me

yes but to go back to your question

about whether or not social media can

color you the wrong way for the first

time ever we were just able to see what

was happening in Palestine before we

just had to rely on Legacy Media who did

you believe all you were saying uh when

I first saw it I kind of wanted to wait

you know I I was trying to just sort

through everything I'm still not sure

all the stuff I see is right well some

but but I'm now getting my information

because I ended up signing up for heret

in Israeli newspapers because they're

protesting it they're calling this NE no

I read that stuff all the time if

Israeli newspapers are calling this an

ethnic cleansing why do we not have

people in the western media that have

the courage to call it the same it's

clearly not anti-Semitism why why on

Earth would heret Media or or heret

Israeli newspaper be anti-semitic and

want to see the undoing of Jews again

this goes back to APAC and back to

lobbying But to answer your question

that piqu my curiosity and I couldn't

believe that essentially everything that

I had these presets to believe about

Jews everything was existential again

that sort of Holocaust upbringing in my

mind culturally seeing so many Holocaust

movies I kind of had these factory

settings where I instantly always wanted

to see Jewish people as the victim and

it was very hard for me to kind of shed

that and to but a lot of Jewish people

were victims here too correct but but

what I'm saying is my fact it's not

wrong for them to play the victim

they're genuinely being victims if

they're genuinely being victims correct

but when I say my factory settings what

I mean is that the second a Jewish

person got hysterical about anything I

just assumed they were telling the truth

and were the victims I'm just kind of

going back and assessing my own

character flaws I got got this wrong in

my political career what you should do

is not have these factory settings and

actually examine the facts right and so

when I started to do that what I started

noticing was I wasn't even allowed to

ask a question so I'd see something and

then I'd say well what is this and then

suddenly it was anti-Semitism and that

right there to me signals you're not

telling me the truth because you

shouldn't have to do that right nobody

is going to I think that works I think

that works in almost every single debate

in the world right now I see it the

other way around where you get being

accused of being an islamophobe if you

dare to criticize anything on the

Palestinian side even if a lot of the

stuff that's been going on is worthy of

criticism I haven't I haven't seen that

and I say this as someone who was deeply

critical of of uh people that were

Islamic throughout my entire career

because again I jumped into politics and

there's a certain perspective that

you're supposed to have in America about

Zionism and you're supposed to kind of

marry yourself to it and despite all of

the things that I now kind of blush when

I look back on that I sort of had those

factory settings they never kind of just

like routinely dismissed me they just

kind of were like well she's and paid

for never called me an islamophobe

whatever it is um I just want to be fair

and I want to be fair if something

happened tomorrow and in an elite place

in America and a bunch of Jews were

killed and targeted I want to stand on

my platform and say what is happening to

Jewish people is wrong I'm not married

to hating Jews because I think what B

Netanyahu is wrong is doing is wrong has

nothing to do with the Jewish people at

large this is a foreign State he's

allowed to be criticized in the same way

that I criticize Biden in the same way

that you can criticize Trump I'm

criticizing B Netanyahu and I think the

IC got it correct in pursuing an arrest

against him do you think Hamas a

terrorist or absolutely you do you you

if you kill civilians you're a ter

you're a terrorist organization that was

always very clear could they play any

part in a government after all this in

in your view uh I would really struggle

to see how that would be a

plausibility let's turn to Syria because

interestingly you said the fall of of

Bashar al-assad is not a good thing no

why well it just kind of going backwards

and and I and I also want to be careful

here because I try not to be an expert

on things that I don't know enough about

and that's why I usually have people on

my show I had on Scott Horton who was

way deeper on the topic of Syria I had

him on last weeky he is yeah he he's

super actually had him on with a top

American General and it was a

fascinating debate because they agreed

about a lot more than I think they

thought they would agree about yeah it

was really interesting actually when you

have a civilized conversation between

two people you think are implacably

opposed actually often they find a lot

of common ground if they're fair-minded

exactly and and so I always say I like

to take time and I I view my show as a

place where people can come and learn

along with me I'm not a snob I don't

pretend that I know everything and I

have the humility to admit when I've

gotten things wrong and to adjust my

opinions you know on the topic of Syria

it has been pretty clear to me and

everyone and I'm grateful that JD Vance

even said it that this was going to

result in the mass killing of Christians

it just seems that hasn't been happening

yet so it's interesting there's not been

a persecution of Christians so far since

the topping of alad in fact what you're

seeing is a lot of the the the for

warnings that XY Z would happen they're

not happening it now it's way too early

to say they're not going to happen but

certainly what is fascinating to me in

the interplay of what's happening in

Syria you've got this guy who used to be

one of the al-Qaeda commanders and he's

clearly in his rhetoric been moving to a

much more moderate position in the last

few years now he's taken charge and he's

continued to sound and speak like a

moderate and he's not ordering the kind

of Retribution murders and Mayhem that

people may have thought he would and

that includes specifically the fact that

Syrian Christians are not at the moment

being subjected to any kind of apparent

oppression I mean are you surprised and

encouraged by that you know to be honest

with you because I traveled over here

and then I was sick for an entire week I

haven't done enough up I haven't looked

into the story you ly the I've had right

yeah exactly I had I I need to stay more

up to date on what's going on but my

concern is that and even if it's is not

happening imminently that a lot of

Christians are about to be murdered and

listen again talking about the broader

conversation of Israel's involvement

which I showed on my show with Scott

Horton you know them admitting that they

armed Al-Qaeda al-nusra all of this is

just inappropriate and wrong and you

just keep calling yourselves victims and

you've been caught so many times funding

Rebels uh you know giving Rebels weapons

to pursue Israel's AIMS in the region I

think that our foreign policy in the

west is way too tied to what B yaho

wants okay and I I'm happy that this

conversation is happening I'm happy that

people are able to debate it I'm happy

that people like Scott Horton are given

a platform to really think through these

things because in terms of America at

least there's a major Awakening

happening um as it pertains to our our

foreign policy in the Middle East let's

turn to some of the other big stories at

the moment um the shooting of the

healthc Care chief executive um and in

particular the weird reaction from the

left of kind of immediately moving to

well he's a hot assassin Luigi mangion

when in fact he's just a cold blooded

assassin your old friend Don Lemon said

this do you think it's a gay thing

because look I maybe we are over

indexing on the gay friends and text

because all of my gay friends are like

uh that someone said they better not

hold a trial within you know 50 miles of

Hell's Kitchen in New York I got a

couple hung jury texts um I've got some

texts that aren't really roate for the

Don Lemon show so it might just be a gay

thing and all I could think watching

that was really guys I mean if this had

been a female chief executive would you

be saying any of this stuff if he if

this this hot assassin had executed a

woman executive I mean no why are they

doing this I have no idea why they're

doing that I have no idea why Don Lemon

is still speaking I I nothing nothing

that he does makes any sense anymore so

I'm not even sure what the aims of his

new show are but yeah there have been

tons of people that are commenting on

his looks really what it's fostering

which I think is more important is a

discussion on Healthcare in general In

America which is another topic that

people tend to not understand because I

well you seem both interestingly because

you're married to an English guy and we

have the NHS here the National Health

Service freefor all um which is not

perfect by any means but it does mean

that if you walk out here today and you

fall over and break your leg you're

going to get free health care in this

country you're not going to have to be

having someone handing standing over you

wanting payment before they'll give you

painkiller and there's something amazing

about that as a system in America you

know I've had injuries I've broke some

ribs and stuff and I remember somebody

as I was dozing In and Out Of

Consciousness wanting to know how I'd

pay for this and it was quite scary

having been used to the NHS that is real

America and I could afford to pay for it

but imagine if you couldn't and you know

apparently some of these these

healthcare companies are operating at

like a 30% denial uh rate at the moment

so a lot of people are dying because

they're being denied cover that's

exactly right and what people don't

understand is it's not a marker of a a

failed free market system it's not a

free market system at all what's wrong

with American Healthcare is that it's

it's a it's a fully operating drug

cartel um you're completely blindfolded

you have no idea how much anything costs

the insurance companies are making deals

youve got like the government involved I

say it's always the exact aims of the

Mexican cartels were actually

accomplished in America a partnership

between the government the insurance

companies and the pharmaceutical Giants

and they decide on pricing they

blindfold you they send you in there and

it's all about price gauging and seeing

how much money they can make a great

example of what happens actually if you

had gotten rid of these uh health

insurance companies entirely is Things

become instantly more affordable lasc

surgery being a classic example of that

I had that years ago when the insurance

companies were involved that would cost

people $40,000 per an eye uh today the

average price for both eyes is $4,500

because insurance now declines coverage

so it's it's people are angry about our

health insurance and that's why you're

seeing some of that reic where like well

nobody cares what happened to Brian

Thompson but even though I disagree with

that rhetoric strongly you you should

always condemn murder especially

cold-blooded murder in the way that it

happens the sentiment behind it is just

recognizing that people's loved ones are

suffering loved ones are dying and it's

because we do have a criminal cartel

operating in in broad daylight Daniel

peny was the other big story where he

was obviously a veteran marine and he

apprehended this guy was going nuts on

the subway and he did a a sort of choke

hold restraint on him and the guy dies

um I never thought that Dani ever got to

court fortunately I felt Justice was

done he's now been seen with Trump and

everybody at the big football match at

the weekend and so on um but what was

interesting to me was given your

background with BLM the leader of BLM in

New York Hawk new said we need some

black Vigilantes people want to jump up

and choke us and kill us for being loud

how about we doing same the framing of

that as being loud as if that was all

that Jordan Neely was doing when nine

out of 11 of the witnesses who were

there at the time including women and

children they all said it was the most

terrifying experience they'd ever had on

a subway this wasn't somebody being loud

it was somebody being incredibly

threatening apparently potentially very

dangerous said he prepared to go to

prison for life and didn't care if he

even died in the process that's somebody

that needs apprehending to protect

people innocent people it's not someone

being noisy which this guy and then

wants to flip into well we must take

equal violent potential deadly action

against people that try and stop us yeah

well talk news him I've sat down with

him twice now over the years and I can

tell you he is virulently racist towards

white people there's no question about

it he he has a hatred for white people

like I've never seen and I I had him on

friendly terms I was like hey let's just

have a conversation about what it is

that you believe and right away he's

angry when he sees a white person uh and

and sort of buys into this whole victim

narrative and and truly is someone who

believes that there is no wrong that a

black person can do if a white person is

there so he's not someone that should be

paid attention to and he does these

things to you know to to get headlines

it's completely not sensible especially

for people who have young kids like I do

Daniel penny is a hero this is exactly

what you want to take place the the only

lack of Justice here was the fact that

he had to go through the court system at

all as opposed to have just been thank

you so much here's a GoFundMe we all

raising money I hope you live out the

rest of your days as a millionaire

because you stepped up and saved a bunch

of people's lives you know what's

interesting Candace is excuse me I've

got you know what I've got I know what

you got um the interesting thing to me

has been the reaction to to two things

one the Daniel Penny case uh and the

verdict uh that despite all the efforts

of people like that guy uh Hawk to whip

everybody up into vigilanti violence and

mass protest it never happened there

were no Mass protest we we didn't see

another George Floyd uprising of Rage

around the country at all in fact even

on a tiny level it never happened but

secondly the attempt to portray Trump as

the new Hitler uh a fascist and so on

and so on uh the most existential threat

to democracy blah blah blah blah blah

two interesting things to me I was at

the Madison Square Garden rally there

were no protesters turned up this is the

middle of Manhattan just before the

election the new Hitler's in town right

with all his young new Nazis and only

150 people turned up to protest 50,000

trumpers turned up who couldn't get in

who were Keen to join the party and I

remember thinking wow Manhattan's

basically given up with this because

they don't believe this and I

felt the same thing with the Jordan

Neely verdict response

is that that BLM movement was so damaged

really as the longer it went on that

actually this time around people weren't

having it yeah uh and we've seen it in

those two things both with Trump and

with this case really interesting lack

of protest what we're really seeing is

just like the media the mainstream media

is just a vacuum and I go back to that

Jeff bezos's piece because it was really

Brave what he wrote it also I think took

a tremendous amount of humility I don't

think it's going to make a difference in

the end because we're not going

backwards to Legacy Med what he said

when he said we're essentially writing

these P pieces it's an echo chamber to

ourselves that's exactly what it is and

so it's funny because I I almost forgot

that Trump was literally Adolf Hitler

for years and now I'm I'm anti-semite of

the Year these words don't have meaning

anymore so you have the media writing

articles to themselves the elitists the

journalists and then you have the rest

of the real world and we kind of

understand about what what's happening

we want to have free speech you want to

communicate ideas we're voting for Trump

not because he's Adolf Hitler but

because we want low gas and people uh

were not doing well under Biden because

we don't want a woman that's going to

lecture us about why you should vote for

her because she's a woman I mean these

are it's really common sense is making a

return Trump is also he's having you

know he he did make that joke before

years ago when he said you know you're

GNA get tired of how much winning we're

going to do he must be getting tired of

all the winning that's going on because

you not only did he win the White House

the Senate the house the popular vote

the Electoral courage he's now just won

15 million off ABC over being uh defamed

by George Stephanopoulos and what was

interesting to me is that was a massive

blow for the Legacy Media to basically

admit we lied about Trump and we have to

give him $15 million right and we're

going to apologize you're seeing a lot

of big wins for Trump he was times

person of the year etc etc he rang the

bell at the stock exchange greeted like

a Conquering Hero there's a real change

in the way that Trump's Victory this

time around is being treated to how it

was last time I I think he's kind of but

he's won he he's he's defeated the

people that were so intent on destroying

him in such spectacular fashion they

basically thrown the towel in but it

wasn't that they were intent on

destroying him you know we we should

really assess what the Trump win was

really about because it was something so

much bigger than that you know when you

have this man come down the escalator

back in 2015 and you had him make a

declaration he said you are fake news

you are fake news and nobody really knew

he was talking everyone was just like

what do you everyone was existing under

the spell where we still believed Legacy

Media couldn't believe how cross this

guy was being who's this gutsy

billionaire from New York who's going to

call out the Legacy media and that

really was the war even when he wasn't

in office that was the ideological and

cultural war that has been being fought

for a very long time like are we giving

the media the Power to tell us what is

fact and what is fiction to destroy

people at the at at the drop of a hat to

build people up at the drop of a hat to

tell us who the new celebrities are and

so I loved thinking about this last

election as like a battle between Taylor

Swift type feminism and ballerina Farm

who's quite n probably don't know who

this is and realizing that just like

regular people won regular people won

against the giant establishment of the

mainstream media The Latte sipping

elitists on the coasts who mock them who

mock their Lifestyles who think they're

backwards and racist the the the

symbolism of the Trump win is so much

bigger and it will take years and

decades and in perpetuity for us to to

to Really no the Hollywood the Hollywood

endorsement of politicians which is

always obviously the Democrat whoever it

is however useless they are Hollywood

Rounds Around the Democrat and on this

occasion having tried to I mean to me

that time in LA I think it was in late

June where Clooney led the big uh rally

night for Biden and they had a big

fundraiser and raised I mean tens of

millions but you could see them all

standing on that stage as Obama LED away

Biden literally had to guide him off

stage and I remember thinking none of

you people George Clooney

Obama any of them none of them actually

believe this guy should be serving

another four years they know he's

basically gone but they're perpetrating

a lie to the public because they'd

rather do that than admit the truth the

ultimate form of elitism and and then

when they flipped in KLA Harris it was

exactly the same thing it's like we know

best we're going to just Crown her and

then she will win because she's not

Donald Trump and they've all been made

to look spectacularly powerless

interestingly and they must looking at

themselves in the mirror going wow what

the hell just happened nothing we said

made any difference and now what are

they going to do that's what's

interesting is this kind of forecast

okay they can't do it again we can't do

a Taylor Swift post we can't do a George

Clooney post we can't do a Beyonce we

can't do JLo crying I mean if if

celebrities could win an election this

was it right yes this was the Super Bowl

they all came out they all did their

thing they brought Eminem back from the

dead what do they do now what what is

your actual opinion like let take me to

2028 what are the Democrats doing yes

are they gonna have to speak to us oh no

are they gonna have to come down and

actually learn about Joe who drives a

truck and the people who touch their own

door handles and the farmers and the

ranchers God forbid are they going to

have to learn about the rest of America

that happens outside of Los Angeles in

New York City and then you hear all the

stories about Oprah's production company

helps stage one of the the big uh sort

of on stage things she did with carela

Harris then you hear that Beyonce may

have been paid she denies it but who

knows there's a lot of stuff going on

here where it looks like not only are

they preaching to everybody but they

might also be Feathering their nests at

the same time of course of course this

is out of the system right yeah so he

killed Hollywood he killed politics he

killed all all these necessary deaths

that needed to happen so we could go

back to fostering conversations and

having an authentic understanding of one

another actually I so I would say I

would say he didn't kill Hollywood what

he's done he's put Hollywood back into

the box of Hollywood and what's

interesting now for all these big movie

stars is well more than half the country

voted for Trump if you're going to carry

on hammering Trump in the way you'd like

to because that's all you know then

actually a lot of the people that might

want to come to your movies are not

going to come right you're going to

commit acts of self harm now knowing the

egos that are play in Hollywood in the

movie profession in particular they're

not going to do that you're going to see

them all go very quiet about Trump

there'll be no more of these Awards

shows where they queue up one after

another to to insult Trump insult his

supporters and so on they're going to

start doing exactly what the tech Bros

have all started doing they're going to

be starting to Kiss the Ring right or

keeping quiet

so you know you're going to see them

we've seen Tim Cooks gone down to marago

we've seen Jeff Bezos all these guys

right they've all worked it out which is

actually the majority of Americans now

with this guy and you're on the train or

you're screwed yeah you're going to get

run over by train so it's almost like

they mean Hollywood will continue but I

just don't think you're going to see

these award shows now by antium

they are know it's The Wizard of Oz we

we oh we thought it was so scary it's

Hollywood oh they're so popular oh my

God it's Taylor Swift who could disagree

it's Beyonce who could ever say no to

the queen and then suddenly Trump kind

of exposed them as these like measly

little people operating a machine behind

the curtain and you can't go back from

that you know they're not cool anymore

no completely right well they're just

not they're not powerful they're not

powerful and they're not they may be

powerful in flogging a movie but they're

not powerful in moving a political

needle and that will that once that's

gone that never comes back they they're

kind of done they're just theater kids

now yeah which is fine which is actually

where I prefer them to be yeah same you

know I like Hollywood when they're being

Hollywood give me a Tom MAV top gun

Maverick movie I'm the happiest guy in

the world right but you know give give

Robert an hero saying I want to punch

Trump in the face every two minutes

nobody cares me who cares man Bob it's

over Bob it's over Bob um talking of

over we talked a bit about P Diddy last

time you were on and obviously now that

Jay-Z we've seen has been named in cour

docum can you tell me I was right about

P did he remember when before the guy

said it's coming I read that lawsuit it

was I always try to fairly assess

lawsuits I do very good job of reading

it I don't just like accept that people

are crazy they do make allegations

against all the time I think you're

going to be proven completely right

obviously obviously he's not convicted

but the scale of the charges and the

number of people coming out with very

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