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[Music] Hello and welcome to Reality Check. I'm Ross Cart, or should I say, welcome to the end—the official end of what was meant to have been Alien Invasion Day. Yes, for weeks now on the internet, there's been speculation that there was going to be some kind of alien invasion based on a prediction that 39 days from the interview between President-elect Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, there was going to be some kind of conflict between humans and aliens.
Well, for all we know, that might actually be happening because, whilst we're talking, there is, over the skies of the world, the most extraordinary display of something—objects in our skies—the frequency of which I've never had reported to me to such an extent before. It's off the charts! It's absolutely amazing to be receiving reports, as I am hourly, minute by minute, from people in countries all over the world who are saying that they are seeing strange objects—glowing luminous orbs, orange orbs, blue triangular-shaped objects—hovering over often sensitive military facilities.
Now, of course, the biggest area of reports has been in the United Kingdom in recent weeks, and we know that over some of the most sensitive bases in the UK, RAF Lakenheath and RAF Feltwell, where the United States allegedly stores nuclear weapons, there have been sightings of strange drone-like craft for some time now. Why do I say drone-like craft? Well, I only say that because intelligence community sources have been in my ear for some time assuring me that these are not aliens; they're not unidentified anomalous phenomena. They are reportedly, according to intelligence insiders, known foreign adversarial drones.
There must be highly advanced drones based on what I'm hearing, but the claim is that they are foreign adversarial aerial nation drones. Now, I'll be honest with you: I don't necessarily believe everything I'm told by members of the intelligence community, and I think we're entitled to be skeptical in this case—not least because we know from intercepted military communications, before they were digitized and encrypted, when they realized their comms were being monitored, some of the clever skywatchers around RAF bases in the United Kingdom picked up on the fact that at least one pilot was referring to UAPs, not drones.
So, if the pilots themselves that are being sent up to intercept these objects perceive them as unidentified anomalous phenomena, not drones, what aren't we being told? And that's the bigger issue here. As Ryan Graves from Americans for Safe Aerospace has told us repeatedly—he's the former pilot who was involved in the extraordinary spate of sightings off the east coast involving deployments in training exercises where they witnessed weird anomalous objects—he's been warning for a while that we need to know for sure that our airspace is safe.
At the moment, the US government quite transparently—and neither can the British government nor my country, the Australian government—give that assurance in the face of what we are seeing in our skies. For two weeks plus now, I think it's up to 16 or 17 days, there have been sightings of craft of some kind. Some of them apparently do have an audio signature that is consistent with some kind of propeller or helicopter blade. They're not jet turbine, but they are hovering, in some cases, for many, many hours at an end, basically continuing to hover over very sensitive military facilities with apparent impunity.
Now, whatever you say about whether these are UAPs or drones, that's an issue that's a national security concern. Some of the people in the national security complex would basically say that's a threat because until we know what they are, they are, by definition, a threat. And so, whilst people often get accused of pushing a threat narrative about unidentified objects, that's what they're talking about here. I think that's the big issue here that a lot of people, including most of the mainstream media, are missing.
Let's compare what happened in February last year, in 2023. One Chinese spy balloon set the entire US media and Congress into hysterics. They went off their rocker with concern about this unwarranted intrusion into American airspace, and we still don't know what the remaining three objects were that were shot down over, I think, Alaska, then the Yukon, and then two parts of the continental United States. But there's still a mystery over three of those objects. What the hell were they? We still don't know. Has the media been inquisitive about it? Not at all.
And that's the issue here. Why was there a hullabaloo and a big alert and concern about those objects and not these current objects that are still hovering with impunity over some of the most sensitive military facilities on the planet? Right now, we are teetering, sadly, on the edge of a third world war. It's not an overstatement to say that we are in very dangerous times, and I suspect that this is the real backdrop to why we're not being told what's going on.
I think the US knows full well what these objects are, be they foreign adversary drones or UAPs. I still think that's a possibility. But if it is a foreign adversary drone and they're operating with impunity over our airspace, over sensitive military facilities, not only is that a national security concern for the United States and for the United Kingdom, but to directly accuse, say, Russia or China—which I'm told is more likely—of deploying drones over sensitive British airbases is tantamount to accusing China of an active war.
That's why we don't want to identify the foreign adversary nation that we suspect is involved in this. Some people are suggesting it's Russia, but my friends from Polish intelligence tell me they doubt the Russians have anything like this kind of drone technology, which appears to be able to intercept jets—to avoid intercepting jet fighters.
There's a great image—I honestly can't vouch for its authenticity—but there's a great video of what is alleged by one of the skywatchers to be an F-16 fighter approaching one of these luminous orbs at high altitude, and you see the orb zoom off in the face of the advancing F-16 jet. So, are these drones, if they are drones, really faster than F-16 jets? Because if that's the case, it means there's a genuine issue of national security concern here because these objects don't appear to have the kind of propulsion systems we're used to for drones, and they seem to be displaying full lights.
They're showing, in many cases, what some people describe as navigation lights, but which one source of mine is suggesting might, in fact, be ISR sensors—perhaps some kind of intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance center that's being used over these sensitive bases. Is it a coincidence that just a few months ago we were told that the United States would be forward deploying nuclear weapons because of the heightening tensions with Russia into some of these UK bases? Is that why a potential foreign adversary, or maybe something stranger, something more anomalous, is now taking a close interest in these bases? We simply don't know.
But I can tell you the conspicuous thing is the absence of any comment by either the United States or the British Royal Air Force. It's like they've decided to clam up, and that's concerning. There are reports, for example, that the Special Air Service and the Special Boat Service—two of Britain's most elite military regiments—have been deployed around some of these bases to try and capture the suspected criminal enterprises that are launching these drones from adjacent forests. But if that's the case, why haven't we caught any?
And add to that that what we're seeing at the moment is a spate of drone sightings—not just in the United Kingdom or supposed drone sightings. We're seeing anomalous objects, strange unidentified objects over skies all over the world. My inbox has exploded in the last few days. I'm getting messages from Russia, Kazakhstan, China, across Southeast Asia, Japan. People are reporting to me sightings of anomalous strange objects that the governments are calling drones in some cases, but which are not explainable as known drones.
And so the big issue is, what the hell are they? We just simply don't know. That's a concern. Here's one, for example: we were told that the British aircraft carrier HMS Elizabeth in Germany, on the 22nd of November, there was a security incident at the Port of Hamburg when the Queen Elizabeth was docked under heavy protection. The German Armed Forces had a secure military zone around the vessel with Homeland Security forces, and they reported a suspicious sighting of a 1.5 MX 1.5 M reconnaissance drone hovering over the 284 M long aircraft carrier.
They confirmed the incident, the Bundeswehr, and identified the drone as likely engaged in espionage activities. They deployed—and this is the crucial thing—they deployed what's called HP 47 jamming equipment capable of emitting signals to disrupt and neutralize drones by forcing them to either land or return to their operators. But that attempt to intercept the drone was unsuccessful.
So the bottom line is, whoever it is that's operating these craft—these objects over very sensitive military facilities, not just in the UK but also clearly in Europe, Germany, and in multiple other countries around the world, including continuing reports in the continental USA—the people that are doing this are not being caught. They're operating with obvious impunity. Moreover, the technology that they are using is not susceptible to the known drone interdiction technology, which normally involves firing a signal at the craft and intercepting the signal that disrupts the operator's control of that drone.
One thing that I am told is that we cannot use broad-spectrum high-pulse microwave weapons on these objects over sensitive military airspace, and that's because, obviously, there are fighter aircraft and other aircraft operating in the vicinity. One thing I know, interestingly enough, I know this from people who tell me that HPMS—these high-pulse microwaves—have been used against known non-human technology. One of the risks in deploying these weapons is that if you fire them in the vicinity of a UAP, you knock out every aircraft in the vicinity.
And so you can't do that over sensitive military airspace when you've got your own fighters in the air. But that doesn't explain a lot to me because I know, for example, there's a company that's just set up—it's a US company called Andil—and they have fantastic anti-drone technology, including something called The Fury, which, if you look on their website, demonstrates capacity to, at extremely high speed, knock out individual drones or UAS that are intercepted inside sensitive military airspace. That's what these are purpose-built for.
Your governments and mine have funded these anti-drone operations at a cost of many hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars over the last few years. And I think we're entitled to ask, why the hell isn't it working? If these so-called drones are attempted to be intercepted by the Americans and the British—and we know that the British Army has deployed special elite units that are meant to be involved in counter-drone efforts—why haven't we seen one brought down?
There is, I admit, one report by a local woman that says that she's aware that a drone was brought down, I think over RAF Lakenheath, but if that's the case, we've seen no official confirmation of that. And it could very well be that the reason why they're not confirming it is because they don't want to essentially put themselves in a declaration of war with whatever the foreign nation is that was responsible for deploying this technology.
Because the moment that you do identify that foreign adversary nation, you are essentially declaring that they have committed an act of war against your nation. And with national sensitivities the way they are at the moment, the last thing I think either Britain or the US want to do is precipitate any kind of confrontation with Russia or China. Could it be, perhaps, that China has developed technologies that are far in advance of what the Russians have, and that what they are trying to do is provoke a conflict between the Russians and the Western world? Is that possible? Would they do such a dastardly thing?
Certainly, it's being suggested to me that these drones, if that's what they are, are more likely Chinese than Russian. And apparently, we know this because of the very distinct audio signatures on these purported craft. Add to that the fact that, don't forget, just a few weeks ago, there was a very extraordinary incident where a Chinese vessel, which is almost certainly linked to the PLA, the Chinese Army, was involved in dropping its anchor and dragging its anchor and snagging and severing very important internet cables in and around Scandinavia.
Now, that incident still is largely unreported. It's an effective active war by what we suspect is a Chinese Army vessel controlled, at least by one crew member who is Russian. Why has there not been any attempt to board that boat? And I suspect the answer is because we don't want to provoke international tensions any more than they are at the moment.
So let's put the drone issue to one side for a moment. Let's not ignore the fact that there clearly is, still separately from the drone issue, there have been, for many months now—and we've reported on this in Reality Check—anomalous objects clearly identified as anomalous by pilots and military personnel operating over very sensitive military facilities, particularly in the United States.
One of the reports that we did was reports of anomalous objects being seen by locals over Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. The Air Force, of course, has persisted in maintaining that these are drones, but not one shred of evidence has been presented to supply any proof at all that these are drones. In fact, the Pentagon has conspicuously failed to provide any proof at all to back up its claim that these objects are drones.
You might recall a few weeks ago, I did an interview with the Tesco Brothers, John and Jerry Tesco, who do a lot of research off Long Island, and they are, I think, probably foremost as technical experts in an understanding of anomalous objects that are being seen on very sensitive air routes in and out of JFK Airport coming into New York. They are aware of a lot of the orbs that are now being seen in and around New Jersey off the Long Island coast, and they continue to maintain that these objects are not drones.
They do not comply; they're not consistent with any known drone technology. They do move in anomalous ways, and what they're seeing and recording on their hyperspectral cameras and their numerous other sensor systems that they've paid for themselves—they're not US government funded—are raising a very serious question.
And I note, as this goes to air, it's just been reported on NBC that the objects are again being seen over New Jersey this evening. And that's very interesting because the FBI is now involved. The FBI has approached John and Jerry Tesco, and I know that they are taking an interest in the New Jersey sightings as well. There are some very sensitive homes under New Jersey, including, I think, one associated with the incoming president. I wonder if that's just a coincidence. Is somebody sending a message or something sending a message? We simply don't know because our governments aren't telling us.
And more importantly, our media is not curious enough to continue asking the question. And that's the issue. The issue, yet again, is the failure of much of the mainstream media to question the drone assertion. If the Pentagon spokesperson gets up and says that these are drones being seen over US and UK and other countries' very sensitive military facilities, over the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier in a dock in Hamburg, Germany, that's a national security threat.
That's a bigger threat than any kind of balloon being seen over the continental USA in February 2023, as we know. So why isn't it being aggressively reported and investigated by the media? Well, because much of the media allows itself to be tamely led by the nose by their intelligence sources. They don't want to burn their sources who are giving them cozy little stories about Ukraine, about Russia, and they're allowing themselves actively to be misled—the same organizations that misreported on COVID and misreported on the Iraq War and have misreported on intelligence issues for much of the last 60 or 70 years.
It's time for the public to start asking questions itself, to start doing our own research, our own independent investigation. And to that effect, I want to commend some work done by an organization called Enigma Labs, with whom I had a very brief flirting association. I got to know them really well in their very early days, but they've done some great work. They've been investigating the orbs and spheres that have been seen over the continental USA, and they made a point of mentioning that in Arrow's November report, they showed that orbs and spheres are frequently reported, with most sightings occurring between 15,000 to 25,000 feet.
What they went on to report is that they've been speaking regularly with fighter pilots—active service fighter pilots at US Air Force bases—and these men and women are telling Enigma anecdotally that the sightings of these metallic-looking spheres, in particular, are concerningly still continuing, often multiple times a day. They're appearing when they're flying and doing training exercises. They're saying, again consistent with what Arrow told the Pentagon and told Congress, they're appearing between 24,000 and 28,000 feet, which is a lot higher than most commercial drones.
If this is a foreign adversary, it's using technology far beyond what we know commercial drones are capable of. Now, we know that those kinds of long-range, long-distance drones exist because the US has been using such autonomous drones for a very long time in warfare. But it does raise the possibility—or probability—if this is a foreign adversary that these are extremely grave incursions.
But it gets more interesting in what Enigma reveals. They did an analysis on these spheres and orbs to see what they could learn, and they discovered that there's been an incredible number—a total of 6,226 total orb or sphere sightings were submitted to the Enigma skywatching network between December 2022 to September 2024. So that's just under two years—6,226. And when they ruled out ones that were a little bit more uncertain, there were 4,467 approved orb sightings that they were able to confirm with genuine sightings.
But this is the good part: when they drilled down further, they found 322 metallic orb sightings. They were metallic, metal, or silver orbs. Now, Reality Check fans will recall that we've taken a very, very close interest in these metallic orbs. I've reported on a guy in Texas who claims that he has a silver sphere which he has seen operating and moving under its own steam, and I've had since then a ridiculous number of people contact me from all over the world who tell me that they've been seeing metallic spheres across Europe, Eastern Europe, Africa, India, Australia, and a lot of the continental USA.
But have a listen to some of this more information from Enigma because there's been a lot of metallic spheres reported by military pilots adjacent to or over very, very sensitive US continental military bases. So at the Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base Fort Worth, Enigma reports on the 1st of August 2023, a metallic sphere was seen flying low, then disappeared into the sky. Near Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington State, in May 2023, a silver-gray sphere flying at low altitude. July 2024, a 3D high-shiny oval. January 2024, a silver ball following a plane. Several sightings also near Eglin Air Force Base, which we've reported on in Florida. June 4th, 2024, silent silver orbs in formation. And again, June 12th, silent silver craft appears after a flash.
Now, John and Jerry Tesco, who we reported on from Long Island, they got an intriguing image of what looks like an orb literally tailing a commercial aircraft as it either exited or entered JFK Airport on the approaches to New York. This is a concern. These are objects operating inside highly sensitive airspace. God help us if there's a collision involving one of these objects and a commercial or military aircraft. That's why this is an issue. That's why Ryan Graves, Americans for Safe Aerospace, is such an important initiative, and that's why civilian and military pilots need to start worrying—stop worrying about the stigma and start reporting these objects more.
So it's to be applauded, frankly, that Enigma is getting reports like these, and I'd certainly like to hear from anyone who's seeing these metallic orbs in particular. They're very interesting because they have no visible means of propulsion. They don't display a heat signature showing either a propeller or a jet turbine. Nobody can see a seam on them. Nobody can explain how these things propel themselves, but multiple people are seeing them in our skies. Why do we continue to ignore this as a national security issue?
We jump up and down and get hysterical about Chinese balloons entering American airspace in February 2023, but we don't talk about metallic spheres. Why is the media allowing itself to be so controlled and gagged? Why doesn't somebody at the White House briefings for the president or the Pentagon briefings develop a spine or a new pair and actually start asking questions? Asking, "Well, hang on a moment, what is all this? What are these drones? If you say these are drones, why do you say they are drones? What evidence have you got they are drones?"
If these are metallic orbs or spheres being seen by your pilots, and if you think that's nonsense, why are you putting pilots in charge of $0000 million aircraft if you think they're lunatics? This is the issue. It's time for the media to start asking seriously aggressive and hard questions because we are being misled and lied to. That's the issue.
So please keep your sightings coming in. I am overwhelmed. I'm very, very interested to hear more, and I can tell you there's something in this. But at the moment, I'm not ruling out the likelihood that these are foreign adversarial drones that have developed some kind of advanced technology that is able to operate with impunity over some of the most sensitive airspace in the world. If that's the case, it's a huge concern.
It's actually, frankly, a bigger concern if it's Russia or China than it is if it's friendly aliens. Because if it was aliens, and if they were malevolent or ill-disposed, I'm pretty sure they could have wiped us out a while back.
So what else are we talking about on Reality Check this week? Well, as you know, I've been in Egypt for the last few weeks. It's been a fascinating journey, and I've got a lot to report. We're preparing a couple of shows which we'll be going to air in the next few weeks. But in the interim, I thought it was time, because of the mounting number of questions I'm getting on my website and on my YouTube channel, I thought it was time I started addressing some of the questions that people have long been asking.
So let's deal with some of those—the Q&As from our audience. The first one is from @zsk numeral 1: Do we know if these are high-tech military drones and UAPs have flashing lights, and no one is questioning that? He makes the point absolutely right. Look, we've kind of addressed that already. We don't know if these are high-tech military drones. My sources are telling me they are. I don't necessarily believe them, and I think we should be skeptical.
I mean, in one of the cases I've seen, you've seen an F-16 jet reportedly engaging with what looks like a luminous orb, and presumably the jet is operating at near supersonic speeds, and that orb was able to outstrip the speed of that jet considerably. Explain that, please, with known drone technology.
One question that comes up next is from @AugIED6760: One question that is not asked is who protects and conceals UFO and alien evidence? Who does this, and who carries on with this suppression in successive generations? Who heads and operates this covert and secret organization?
Okay, let me be on the level here and say that if you'd asked me that question three or four years ago, I would have thought you were a raving lunatic, a tinfoil hat nutter. I now think your question is entirely reasonable because I do believe that there is a cabal of individuals, and they are individuals. They're not departments or entities; they are individuals—carefully selected individuals who believe that they are entrusted with a national secret, and they're determined to keep it, even if it's operating illegally in defiance of the oversight rules of Congress.
I think there are people in the US Air Force who know full well that we are being visited by a non-human intelligence. How do we explain the statement that was made by Dr. John Klosi, the new and very well-spoken incoming director of Arrow, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, who gave evidence to Congress in November asserting that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation to planet Earth?
Well, I want to make the point: I think it's entirely possible that Dr. John Klosi is being lied to by people within the program who know full well what's going on. I wouldn't be surprised if, since his November appearance, Dr. Klosi has been apprised of much more interesting information that perhaps has changed his perception. It would be interesting to see him put under oath and questioned more rigorously by a Congress that is now more aggressively pursuing this subject with its bit between its teeth.
I am told that there are individuals in the US Air Force who have been concealing this secret for years. It's largely driven out of the US Air Force because of the US Air Force's control of the subject since the 1940s and indeed probably a lot earlier. Another thing I've learned very recently is that it is very, very likely that the US has had possession of non-human technology since even before 1941, Cape Girardeau, and possibly even before the Magenta object was retrieved by the Italians in the 1930s.
I wouldn't be surprised if the US has had technology since the turn of the last century. Go figure. But what has happened, I believe, is that there is a presidential executive action directive—I think they're called PEADs. Forgive me if I've got that acronym wrong; I really don't care. I'm sure there will be somebody who will pick me up on it.
But for those of you who were following Michael Shellenberger's evidence in Congress when he gave evidence under oath to Congress in November, he referred to a program known as Immaculate Constellation, which it is my understanding is a very small part of a whole series of secret code-named programs that constitute what we would call the Legacy UAP program. But nonetheless, it's a very significant one, and I am now aware of who Mr. Shellenberger's source is. I realized now I was speaking to that source many, many months ago. I wish them the best; I will be protecting their confidentiality. But I can tell you I can vouch for who they are, and I think the fact that they have come forward is extraordinarily significant.
But anyway, just to make the point: when Shellenberger made the statements under oath to Congress that he believed that this Immaculate Constellation was a program that was protected by secrecy by the Defense Department, it was formerly denied by the Pentagon that Immaculate Constellation is a special access program controlled by the Department of Defense. And you know what? The Pentagon's spokeswoman was telling the truth, and I suspect she knows full well what the real story is.
And the real story, I am told very, very reliably, is that there is a presidential order, action directive—whatever you want to call it—that was signed in or around 1954 by President Eisenhower that enshrined the secrecy of the Legacy UAP retrieval and reverse engineering program. This has been kept a secret even from Congress, in breach, by the way, of Article One of the US Constitution, which requires that Congress have oversight of everything it's paying for.
This has been done in breach of those congressional oversight rules because of this somewhat lame and I think unsupportable presidential order since the 1950s. I think that it's going to be a very interesting day of reckoning when Congress finally, if it ever does, develops the spine to ask the question of the White House: Is there a presidential order which has essentially allowed this issue to be kept secret at White House level for many, many decades?
And if that's the case, how do we justify that commanders in chief like Barack Obama, like Jimmy Carter, like Bill Clinton—notice they're all Democrats—asked the hard question: Is there a secret UAP program? And they were told there wasn't. Certainly, Obama was during his administration, and so was Clinton. But they found out differently subsequently. They know they were being lied to, and they were being lied to because of this ridiculous presidential executive order.
On what basis, you would ask yourself—and I'd love a constitutional lawyer to answer this question—on what basis could a former president or a previous president lock in a lie to all future commanders in chief to stop them from being briefed into this program? On what basis was that a good idea? Last time I checked, America is a democracy, nominally. On what basis could a commander in chief requesting information about the UAP Legacy program be denied that information?
And that's what I'm alleging happened and continues to happen. Presidents have been lied to; Congress has been lied to. That should be an issue for the American public. And by the way, the American public should be asking themselves: What about the JFK assassination? Is there a link between the UAP issue and JFK's murder by the national security state, which I in no doubt happened? I do not for one moment believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin, and multiple sources in the intelligence community tell me I'm right.
I think when we resolve the issue of UAPs, when we blow open the JFK files, I think we're going to solve both mysteries.
Okay, moving on. Next question: @dk at dark982: Question for Mr. Kater: What is your take on why the NHI do not just reveal themselves? Do you agree with the idea that there is an agreement for delayed or complete non-disclosure? Because if true, I would find that to be somewhat confusing behavior on behalf of the NHI. I also think that if they were waiting for us to be ready, that maybe we wouldn't be seeing them in our skies, or maybe at all. Thanks for the work you do, and hoping to hear your thoughts.
Okay, Mr. Dark. I think there's a really interesting explanation that I'm beginning to hypothesize. This is only a speculative hypothesis on my part, but it is based on work that I am doing that is increasingly focusing on what I believe is a consciousness connection to the UAP phenomenon. I do think that there is a link between what we call psychic phenomena, telepathy, or psionics, as is the more neutral term that's used by the military and the defense community.
I do believe that there is a connection between human psionic abilities, telepathic psychic abilities, and consciousness, and that the UAP phenomenon is tied into that. I suspect this is one of the largest reasons for why this is being kept secret and for why the NHI are not overtly showing themselves. My growing hypothesis—it's just a hypothesis because there are a few things I can't tell you right now that I'm going to be reporting on in the coming weeks, and I'm very excited to be bringing you that story—but I do know that the Air Force has been working on psionics for many, many decades. They never stopped investigating the power of the human mind and consciousness ever since the Stargate program and the remote viewing program.
I know it's been poo-pooed. I know there's a George Clooney movie based on John Ronson's book called The Men Who Stare at Goats, and I know all the supposed debunkers say it's BS. But I can tell you it's not BS. I've seen it for myself, and it's real. And in forthcoming weeks, you will see why I say it's real.
I believe the United States Air Force has knowingly deceived Congress, successive presidents, and the American public and the world about what it knows for far too long. It's time for this story to be told.
Now, coming back to the question from Mr. Dark: I think the NHI are showing themselves in our skies to tweak our consciousness, to make us humans aware of capabilities that many of us don't even realize we have. And I've seen those capabilities demonstrated in recent months. I know they're real, and I frankly don't give a flying fig what the debunkers or the skeptics or the trolls would say about that. It's real, and they will soon be eating humble pie.
The capacity for the human mind to engage externally with some kind of uber consciousness has been speculated about in science. Go and have a look at the work on microtubules. Let's have a look at what modern science is speculating about—a quantum connection between the human brain and an external consciousness. That's where we're going in this.
So what if UAPs are merely a manifestation of something that is above and around us—a consciousness? Some might call it God. Yeah, I know this is heavy stuff, but what if the purpose of its engagement with the human race is to slowly tweak our awareness and to encourage us to use abilities that we don't even know we have?
I'm very interested in hearing from people who were part of the gate program 20 to 30 years ago who found themselves in rooms with US Air Force officers and strange psychologists in white lab coats showing them, on occasion, strange apparently non-human objects. Yes, this has been happening. Young kids, prepubertal kids, have been misused in experimentation by our military in experiments designed to develop an understanding of how to engage with the phenomenon—with a consciousness.
And I think, at the same time, that NHI consciousness is trying to engage with humanity individually. I've spoken to so many people. I had a message this morning from one person who's an ex-very senior US Air Force person working in a very sensitive area who told me that they had psychical abilities, and they'd never spoken about it. But when they told me about their sighting of a gigantic craft, I said to them, "By any chance, do you have psychic abilities? Have you ever had an intuition or a precognition?" And they said they were very moved by my question because they'd never really spoken about it, but yes, they have.
And everybody I talk to tells me about intuition, precognition, some kind of second sight, some kind of insight that gives them an ability to understand or engage with things in a way that humans can't quite understand. And I think that's what lies behind our understanding—or our growing understanding—of the phenomenon. I think that if these are craft, if they are craft at all, they are a manifestation of a consciousness that is trying to engage with humanity.
And I think, interestingly enough, the evidence that I am acquiring suggests that these craft can only be operated by people with those psionic abilities. Watch this space; more to come on this.
Now, the other question from Mr. Dark was: Are there agreements, and are those agreements perhaps constraining why and what we can be told? Now, that's a good question. As you know, if you were a watcher of the interview I did with David Grusch back in June 2023, David Grusch, to a very limited extent, referred to what he was allowed to reveal through his DOD, his Defense Office Pre-Publication Security Review. He referred to unspecified agreements.
Now, I've been investigating that, and I do believe it's possible—plausible. I haven't confirmed it—that sections of the US military concluded agreements with a non-human intelligence. And I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was an agreement of non-disclosure—perhaps some kind of Star Trek-like prime directive where the NHI didn't want humanity informed. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the case. I haven't had it explicitly said to me, but I have had multiple sources refer to agreements.
Okay, so let's just examine that. Firstly, if such an agreement was made, how could it possibly be legal? How could the whole planet be bound by an agreement that a bunch of jumped-up, hubristic, arrogant men in the 1950s or the 1940s concluded with a non-human intelligence? Why would they have any right to make a decision on humanity's behalf?
Moreover, if Congress and certain presidents were not properly informed, as I am confident they were not, and in complete breach of Article One of the US Constitution, then those officers of the US Air Force are in serious breach of their oath to the US Constitution, which is an act of treason. Treason! That's what we're talking about here.
So if these people are aware that people like myself and others are on their tail and that disclosure is imminent—that Congress is now getting close—if I was you guys, I would be thinking very seriously about coming forward because you are going to face treason charges if your government doesn't decide to exonerate you or put you before a Truth and Reconciliation Commission where you are given immunity in return for telling the truth. You face the very grave probability of criminal charges, and yes, I do think there are people who should be going to jail as a result of what I've learned about the Legacy program—experimentation on children, murder, intimidation, bullying, threats—not a good look, guys.
Okay, moving on. The next question is from @JohnnyM6338. This is a long one, but it's a good one. Ross, while I can understand and agree with the need to keep the technology portion of the information secure for obvious reasons, why is it necessary to over-classify the NHI biological materials and the scientific information? Classified information is essential to advancing our understanding of astrobiology. That's essentially blocking our scientific advancement, which I don't believe any government has the right to do.
And I can't see how releasing such information and samples to the research community can in any way jeopardize national security. Can you? I mean, come on, we know they have these materials. Yes, we do, and they know that we know that they do. So why would any government, let alone our own, deliberately withhold scientific research advancement?
Now, look, this question goes on and on and on. It's about 2,000 words, but I can answer it. I completely agree with you. I can tell you, Johnny, that I am in touch with scientists inside the Legacy UAP retrieval program—that is a program that has retrieved non-human craft, alien spacecraft—and that these people are deeply frustrated that they cannot share their science with other scientists and with humanity in general.
They also think it is immoral that we do not know and that the Pentagon and the US government choose to lie to us. What they want is for their science to be shared with other scientists so that we can achieve breakthroughs that allow the material science study of these objects to get a breakthrough. Because my understanding is that when they've actually looked at these craft, the technology within them has often defeated material science. It's an assembly at the atomic level of which we are not yet capable. That's the issue.
But what we have learned is the ability to psionically engage with non-human technology and operate it to our own advantage. The fear that has been expressed to me by scientists is that, as happens all too often, America, Russia, and China are all involved in a quiet Cold War, as David Grusch admitted to me last year, competing to develop these technologies for military advantage.
Now, I don't want to condemn the military people that are doing this. That's the way they think. You know, when this was first discovered and when the realization was first achieved that we had technologies that were far beyond known human science, it was during the Cold War. And it was realized that the best way of securing an advantage over our foreign adversaries was to essentially develop those technologies in secret.
But I know, because I'm talking to people who know all about it, the Russians have their own reverse engineering program going with their own retrieved technology, and so do the Chinese. And what is driving a lot of the bellicose rantings from the American military at the moment towards the Chinese is that the Chinese, I suspect, are far more advanced than the Americans in their development of the material science technology.
Oh, and could this have something to do with the foreign adversary drones hovering over the United Kingdom and the United States' sensitive military facilities? Just maybe it could. Have a close look at some of those objects that have been videoed in recent days that appear to show blue plasmatic glows. Leave it with you.
So yes, I do think it's unjustifiable that either the technology or the biologics are being withheld from the public and particularly from science. But, and again, I can just hear the outraged bellicose ranters online accusing me of covering up for the dark state, the simple fact is I do think that there are technologies that lie behind this that ought properly to be kept secret, just like with nuclear weapons.
I don't want to know; I shouldn't know how to make a thermonuclear bomb. I don't want to know how to make scalar weapons. Remember that term, scalar weapons? Wouldn't that be terrible if what apparently is the subject of fictional speculation was, in fact, real? And wouldn't it be terrible if at least two of the nations on this planet that constitute semi-superpowers, so-called, were in possession of such scalar weapons? Wouldn't that be a threat to humanity?
And wouldn't it be terrible if our first contact with a non-human intelligence was to essentially misuse the technologies of theirs that we've discovered for developing an adversarial advantage over foreign countries? That's the issue that lies behind, I think, a lot of the secrecy, Johnny M6338, that is explaining why this is being kept quiet.
Okay, so @kinen2601: I have two questions. One: With all the advances in photography technology, why can't we get a good close-up of any of these UAPs? And two: Did they send any jets up to intercept these unknowns?
I don't believe they were drones. I believe the pilots say what they saw, and you're dead right, Ken. We know because we've heard the communications. At least one of the pilots described what he was seeing as UAPs—unidentified anomalous phenomena. So why does the US Air Force and the British Air Force continue to maintain that these are mere drones?
Perhaps they are drones, but whatever they are, they represent an advancement in technology that is far beyond what we've known publicly to date, and that's an issue of concern. Now, why do these objects not show up clearly in photographs? I think that was your first question. I think one of the explanations that's been offered to me is that the very nature of the propulsion system that these objects are using—these craft are using—involves a plasma, a distorting plasma that actually glows around the object.
That's why you'll often see a blue plasma glow around these spheres, orbs, triangles, or discs. Apparently, that plasmatic glow is the object flitting in and out of space-time, which might explain why they are often translucent or sort of semi-visible.
Did they send any of their jets up to intercept these unknowns? Yes, they did. We know that they did because we've seen videos of it from skywatchers in the United Kingdom. And thank you very, very much to those stalwart people that have been going out night after night for the 16-plus days of sightings over the United Kingdom who've been capturing intriguing images of objects being engaged with by Her Majesty's jets and the jets of the US Air Force.
Okay, next question is from @Thomas9809: Bravo, Ross, done, sir. Could you possibly visit Skinwalker Ranch in the future?
Oh boy, I'd love to visit Skinwalker Ranch. And for those of you who've watched Reality Check in the past, you would know that we interviewed Brandon Fugal a few months ago, and Brandon very kindly extended an invitation to me and News Nation and Reality Check to come and film at Skinwalker Ranch, and I will be doing so. I would love to do so. I just have to find the time to do it in between dealing with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of emails. It's just insane right now with all these sightings off the charts.
I'm also very interested in areas like Skinwalker Ranch outside of Utah. I mean, Skinwalker is a fascinating location, but I know it's not the only one. I'm doing a documentary which we'll be going to air on News Nation and hopefully the CW Network in the coming months, which will be exploring at least one other site in the United States which involves extraordinary anomalous activity and possible interdimensional portals.
And I think there are sites like this all over the world, including here in Australia. And if anyone knows about any of these, I'd love to hear from you. I'm really interested in hearing more about interdimensional portals. You can get hold of me on my Twitter site; there's an email listed there: mckraker@protonmail.com. If you know anything about any of these interdimensional sites where anomalous activity is being seen, particularly where there is a heavy military presence—and I'm told there are often heavy military presences around these sites—I'd love to hear from you.
Okay, @PaulFogySongs asks: Hi Ross, we've corresponded once before. I wonder if you've looked at the phenomenon of religion and compared its acceptance by so many around the world, and yet UAP is treated in a totally opposite way. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Paul.
Well, yeah, I mean, we have done Reality Check episodes on this, notably with a theologian called Paul Thigpen, talking about excerpts from the Bible and other religious texts which do appear to refer to things that I certainly interpret—Paul doesn't necessarily—as UAP. Paul takes a very literal interpretation that these are angels and demons, and who knows? He might be right.
Certainly, there are people in the Air Force of very evangelical Christian bent who think that the phenomenon ought not to be investigated because it does involve angels or demons. I don't know. I simply don't know. What I don't like, though, is the notion that a religion would tell us that we're not allowed to investigate anything. That assumes blind faith is totally antithetical to good science.
And I'm sorry if that puts me in contradiction with people of religious faith, but I'm sorry. I just think we should question. We should always ask. And if a religion was to punish us for asking a question, then there's something wrong with that religion. I never, as a child, accepted the idea that we should unquestioningly show faith in the notion of a Christian God and all of the ideas that went with that. I used to get into terrible trouble with my divinity teachers for asking questions, and I don't see why we shouldn't.
Any good religion and any compassionate God, if a God exists, would surely understand that humans have a right to ask questions.
One of the other questions I've got here is from @Seberry4068: I ask, what's the best proof of Bigfoot or the best evidence? I've looked for it, and I can't see any. It's not as though I'm not open-minded to it; I just don't see what others do.
That's a good question, Barry. I'm not necessarily a Bigfoot believer, but I'm also not necessarily a Bigfoot disbeliever. Coming back to a moment to the idea of interdimensional portals, one idea I've flirted with from speaking to people like Brandon Fugal and others who've worked in the NIDS and ORAP investigations at Skinwalker Ranch is that there do appear to have been anomalous creatures—entities emerge from apparent portals on that ranch that was seen by reputable scientists, you know, non-loopy individuals.
And that these objects and entities did appear to correspond to what we would call Bigfoots. Is it possible that there is a Bigfoot that essentially emerges from interdimensional portals and comes into our area to collect food or game or minerals of some kind? I have no idea, but I wouldn't exclude that possibility. Science is increasingly suggesting that such portals do exist. We know that black holes exist. Why is the idea of an interdimensional portal something that is so antithetical to good science?
Certainly, if you have a look at the ancient Aboriginal rock paintings or the rock art of indigenous Native Americans, it's quite clear that they were describing things that I would certainly describe as portals. And I've had the privilege of speaking to people of Native American background, and they certainly describe portals existing today. So I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Bigfoot; it's just that, like you, I haven't seen the evidence.
Okay, last couple of questions. @WilhelmHes1348: Is it just nuclear weapons or nuclear atomic energy plants? Reports have been made of hundreds of UAP sightings at atomic energy plants.
Yep, you're quite right, Wilhelm. We are not talking about UAPs just being seen over nuclear weapons facilities like Malmstrom Air Force Base, as was reported by numerous US Air Force former personnel. We're talking about multiple sightings, often over the same facility, repeatedly reported over many, many years by staff at these facilities, including power plants.
And I commend, once again, to people the fantastic book by my friend and colleague Robert Hastings, "UFOs and Nukes." It's a fantastic read. We interviewed Robert a few months ago on Reality Check. He also very kindly gave us the link to his documentary that's linked on his show, and you will see there that he has extensively reported the extraordinary frequency of these anomalous objects over almost every nuclear-linked facility in the United States.
And I can tell you, because I'm in receipt of information from countries like India, Pakistan, France, Britain, and China, there are equally objects of an anomalous nature being seen over nuclear facilities in those countries as well. It's not a uniquely US phenomenon. Perhaps it's more reported, and perhaps more authoritarian countries make it harder for their citizens to come forward to talk about it, but it's certainly happening all over the world.
Last question: @BeakNeedBKNE: Has Shen published, posted, shared, or otherwise made public the tracings he made from the crashed craft photos? It's been 45 years since he made the drawings. I'm wondering who else has seen them.
Okay, so what he's referring to there is my friend and dear colleague Danny Sheehan. Daniel Sheehan, a civil rights attorney of renown, who heads the Paradigm New Paradigm Institute out of Washington, DC, which is a lobby group for UAP transparency that he works on with Jim Garrison and Tyler Zarnick, and they're doing a sterling job exposing the UFO cover-up, which is a UFO cover-up.
And what Danny's referring to there is a seminal incident that happened to him as a young lawyer. He had an association, because of his background working with the Jesuits in the Vatican Church, he was known to the White House as somebody with connections to the Vatican. And because of that, perhaps he was approached by a woman called Marcia Smith, who was with the Congressional Research Service, which had been tasked by President-elect Jimmy Carter to investigate the UAP phenomenon.
It's a great story. I suggest you read about it in my book or watch one of Danny's interviews about it online, including the one I did with Danny many months ago. What you'll find is that Danny tells the story of how he was briefed into the fact that George Bush Sr., before he became president, when he was the director of the CIA, was apparently one of the gatekeepers of the Legacy program secrets.
And when Jimmy Carter, as president-elect, before he was inaugurated, was asking for a briefing on UAPs, he was formally refused a briefing by George Bush Sr. This isn't something that George Bush Sr. in his lifetime ever denied. It's never been denied by anybody. I've given plenty of people connected with them an opportunity to deny it. It's a fascinating story.
Marcia Smith won't comment, but Danny Sheehan says that eventually he was approached by Marcia because of the work that he had done with NASA, and he was asked to help her investigate the UAP phenomenon. He asked for access to the Blue Book files—the hidden Project Blue Book files—and incredibly, on a quiet Saturday morning, on a holiday weekend in America, he was told to go to an uncompleted office of the National Archives or the Library of Congress, the Madison Building, as it's now known.
And there, in an uncompleted basement, he was met by men in black suits and given access to archives of microfiche. And when he searched those microfiche in impatience, he started looking through the voluminous files for any kind of photograph. And what he saw was a photograph of a craft which had strange markings on the side. And although Danny hadn't been allowed to take in a pen and paper, he sneaked one in and he surreptitiously traced those symbols onto the back of his shorthand pad and sneaked it out past the men in black.
Now, incredibly and frustratingly—and I've badgered Danny to death about this—he lost the tracings. He lost the tracings. So the reason why he can't say what they mean after 45-plus years is because he just doesn't know. He's never been able to recover the tracings. But what is interesting is that when he did his recollection of those tracings, what he drew bore a very close resemblance to the symbols described by an airman called Jim Penniston, who said that this was what he saw on the side of a similar craft at the RAF Bentwaters base Christmas 1980, which is another story entirely.
I've probably gone on for far too long. I think we've crossed the hour. We have. But I hope you enjoyed this edition of Reality Check. I'll try and answer more Q&As in the future to come. I can tell you we've got some very, very interesting programs to come on my visit to Egypt, and we've got some sensational stories to rock the new year with in 2025.
I'm looking forward to seeing President Trump honor his promise to investigate the Deep State because, oh boy, there is one, and the UAP mystery is central to it. Crack the Deep State; you crack the UAP mystery. It's very, very important. If any of you are asking what you can do, keep the pressure on your elected representatives. Let them know this matters because truth will out, and we'll be here on Reality Check to keep you informed.
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