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Bashar Wasn't Overthrown, He was Fired

Middle Nation23:34

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I was trying to think of the way to I

was trying to think of the right way to

say what

happened because uh I don't buy the idea

that the revolution succeeding and that

uh bashard was

overthrown was forced from Power he was

top holder what have you I think that uh

he wasn't he wasn't taken down he was

let go by the people who who were

holding him up I think uh Russia uh

turkey Iran

uh obviously especially Russia and Iran

turkey no wasn't holding him up but

Russia and Iran were holding him up and

they decided to let him go and

China uh uh that's what happened he

wasn't he wasn't forced out of power by

the rebels he wasn't forced out of power

by the by the so-called Revolution he

was dropped when was the which which

sorry which which is is what makes

me also I I have a a a very different

feeling about it I think than than most

people

which is this could have happened a lot

sooner right uh what what held it back

was it Bashar trying to resist trying to

I think I think that I think that

actually uh I mean people will have

their their analysis and talk about how

Bashar made certain decisions about sort

of reconstituting his military and

corruption in Syria and then also Russia

being weakened by the Ukraine war and

blah blah blah I don't buy any of that I

don't think that any of that is the

reason I think that in fact

the I think that the the development of

bricks and the

uh

coalescing of the regional powers to a

particular uh Regional vision for the

for for the

region uh is what actually brought

bashar's uh regime to an end I said I

said at the time before Bashar was

deposed I mean I made that video and by

the time it was published he was already

out of Syria he already fled but when I

made the video I said that there was

still a way that Bashar could save

himself which was if he were to

genuflect to

Eran uh have a meeting with him and

discuss matters then there might might

be a way that he could uh uh retain

power he didn't do it there was a there

was an

arrangement that could have led him into

that direction right that that bricks

meeting that he there was show up yeah

well no there was a there was a

direction that he needed to go and he

didn't go that direction I think that

that the the direction that he needed to

go was uh to to show just like Iran has

understood I believe that Iran has

understood that they need to try to show

that they can be a team player and go

along with the regional

plan uh and they're trying to show that

they're willing to do that okay Russia

is Russia is wanting to do it China is

wanting to do it Saudi Arabia is wanting

to do it Egypt is wanting to do it uh

everyone is going obviously the a

national OC GFC are backing this plan it

seems to

me and Brits is backing this

plan now there was the uh uh brick

Summit in

Kazan last month I

think uh and Bashar was invited to

attend okay and Russia thought that he

was going to attain Russia was expecting

him and if he had gone to that meeting

he would have been able to meet with all

of the most important uh external

players that have something to do with

Syria we would have been able to meet

with Russians we would have been able to

meet with the Chinese we would have been

able to meet with Eran because Edan was

there uh he didn't go and it it signaled

I think to all of the people who decide

what happens in Syria it signaled to all

of the people that but is not going to

go along with the regional

plane uh and that was in my opinion the

point at which they decided

that uh they have to drop it the same

way that they decided that hasah has to

be dropped yeah and the same way that

they decided that Hamas has to be

dropped uh and that all of the militant

factions have to be dropped they also

decided that there's not a way to

resolve the conflict in Syria with bash

there because he's not going to go along

great so basically Iran just dropped him

I think yeah Iran dropped him and Russia

dropped him yeah they dropped him uh and

they did the right thing right but what

what makes me angry is that you could

have done that 10 years ago

uhhuh uh because that's that that's what

that's what happened and that's what was

always going to decide uh what happens

in Syria which is the agreement between

the external

cers it didn't happen 10 years ago it

happened now which just means that

countless numbers of people had to die

because of people believing that

their Rebellion is the thing that was

going to change

things I mean I'm not saying that it was

completely insignificant because had

there not been any sort of a rebellion

any sort of a civil war or what have you

uh then it would be difficult to

necessarily uh incentivize or motivate

Iran to drop in but I also think that

given the given all of the other

geopolitical and economic Dynamics at

clay uh frankly if you had

waited uh and Bricks took the course

that it has taken and the and the plan

for a a

regional cohesive future had proceeded

as it

has uh Bard would have been out anyway

but you say that it could have taken

taken taken place 10 years

ago are you saying that the rebels

delayed it or the decision

makers no I'm saying that I'm I'm saying

that believing that the armed rebellion

was ever going to win on its own Merit

ah yeah is you're wrong that's not what

happened at all that's not at all what

happened the fact that that like if they

if if Bashar had gone to the meeting in

Kazan I of course depending on how it

went

if he had gone to a meeting if he had

gone to the bricks meeting and uh uh and

understood the necessity of

him uh complying with the regional

vision and signed on to it then there

wouldn't have been a rebel offensive two

weeks ago that wouldn't have

happened if he had if he had said you

know I um uh

like because the result of him not going

to the meeting is the same as him going

to the meeting and saying the wrong

things right and not taking the right

position so it's it's kind of like

making him an offer he can't refuse you

either go along with what we're doing

and Iran is already going along with it

so you you should understand that if

Russia is going along with it and Iran

is going along with it you don't have a

choice he he knows that now yeah he

knows now that he never had a choice you

have to do with the external that's why

I said the only powers in Syria are

external Powers that's the only powers

that there are and the external Powers

always were going to be the ones to

decide what happened how this turned out

the external Powers were always going to

be the ones so I mean they could have

reached some sort of an

agreement before all these people had to

die and all this Devastation had to

happen MH but also but also I mean over

the course of the last 10 years America

has declined in its power and its reach

MH

uh and and that has been uh a key factor

as well because they

were uh they had the they they

instigated and perpetuated the Civil War

yeah the color Revolution the So-Cal

color

Revolution

uh I don't even know you can really call

it a color Revolution because color

revolutions typically are not are not

violent they're not a a a violent armed

overthrow okay but that's that's what

this was they turned it into a civil war

when it started as you could say it

started as a color

Revolution uh maybe they did start it as

a color Revolution although I think that

the the initial protests were genuine

okay but as usual what they do is hijack

genuine they hijack a genuine protest

movement radicalize it and in the case

of Syria they brought in weapons they

brought in arms they brought in

Mercenaries and

militias uh to turn it into what they

Jed

into but then you know o over the last

10 years they they uh

uh interest and ability to continue

doing

that uh Define so you

know it to have made the decision it's

not realistic to say that a decision or

an agreement could have been made to

drop Bashar 10 years ago

okay but it's an argument in favor of

not revolting yeah and having and

trusting in Allah tala to to

resolve and to bring matters to Justice

because had you done that the exact same

thing would have occurred okay so that's

exact same thing would have occur okay I

was trying to understand why why you

make that you know yeah I mean because

my point is that 10 years ago the

external Powers decided were were the

decision makers as to what was going to

happen in Syria 10 years later those

same players are the ones who decide

what will happen in Syria and and uh

they have pursued a

path uh according to a vision for the

region and they are pursuing that path

and they are getting all of their ducks

in a row mhm they're circling all the

wagons uh around this Regional

Vision uh and if Bashar alassad had

taken a a contrary position to that

Vision then the exact same thing would

have been the result yeah okay because

you would he was not driven out out of

power by the rebels period the rebels

are a factor that were being used by the

external Powers yes but the external

Powers could have done it without them

mhm and and in fact they basically did

yes because you didn't drive him out

yeah he was dropped yeah he was dropped

by the ones who were holding him up the

whole time the rebels just contributed

to the devastation and the

wreckage yeah well they created a lot of

opportunities for reconstruction which

the GCC appreciates yeah

the GCC will be the beneficiaries of

that

yeah so I mean I see it this I don't

think allaham it sort of depends

on uh whether the neocons in

Washington can be rained in or not and

whether or not they have actually

properly

learned uh that their age of dominance

in US politics is over whether they've

learned that or not this is the sole

Factor determining whether or not

uh Syria will be

stable uh under whatever new government

is form or whether they they will

continue to they'll try to Pi one Rebel

faction against another and turn it into

a a post Soviet Union

Afghanistan because I think that uh

uh you know either either either put

Rebel factions against another or just

create one just like Isis

send send one of

their you know

customade Islamic extremist groups to

Syria to make to make problems but I

mean you've got you've got the former Al

that was a

the

front the leader of that is now the

leader of this so you really have to

just grow a new one a new radical group

Isis is is more

now just the Isis is now basically the

security guards for the oil facilities

for America in

derz listen to the irony of

that that's what they're there for but I

think that America will pull out

personally I think that America will

pull out of Syria when Trump comes in

yeah so and we're waiting so long for

Trump to actually come into office it

feels like ages it feels like forever

since the since the election before this

guy's going to get in there's a big part

of me that just feels that it's not

going to happen of forboding yeah of

sorts and just to be clear I'm not I'm

not like not because I have I have hope

in Trump specifically but because of the

faction that he represents and I believe

that that faction that he represents is

on board with the regional Vision which

will bring stability to our lands yeah

and prosperity to our lands and an end

to extremist Zionist uhuh uh you

know brutality

and

Allah but it really is showing

also I don't know what you call them I

don't know if they're I don't know if

you can really call them liberals or if

you can really call them leftists but

there's some sort of a weird uh I don't

know what you call them International

marxists Global Marxist or something you

know uh who like the Vanessa bees of the

world and and and others who are not as

blatantly just propaganda mouthpieces

for Bashar

MH generally who fall on the side of

Iran yeah and heah uh and and who who

propagate their

propaganda as being these great Freedom

Fighters these wonderful Noble uh

Anti-Imperialist uh standing up to the

west and so

on uh I can't believe that they're

saying all of these things just because

they're ignorant I think that

they're uh that it's ideological with

them but now you're really

seeing uh very clearly how there's no

difference at all between them and

neocons there's no difference at all

between them and

colonizers because they're they're in

fact they're the only ones that I'm

seeing refer to the the the resistance

groups in Syria the current resistance

groups the ones the HTS as

jihadis okay

yeah yeah it's like a uhhuh

characterizing them as Islamic Islamic

extremists all right yeah and another

feature that I've seen in these uh

propagandist is their over overly over

concerned for all the shrines all the

Shia shrines

yeah yeah Christians they say the

Christians are not going safe in Syria

are not going safe in Syria that that

that now there's going to be sectarian

division violence and so forth right

like this is the this is the

colonizer

rationale for why we have to decide what

kind of a government you're going to

have because you can't be uh trusted

yeah that's the the religious minorities

in your country are not going to be safe

unless we set up a

system uh that that advantages them over

you and actually creates hostility that

never existed before between the the the

sects soall between the different

denominations or or different faiths or

different religions or whatever you

create a system the colonizers always

create a

system uh based on a

prediction with no historical

precedent of uh ethnic or religious or

tribal or

sectarian uh rivalry and violence and

hatred mhm it has no precedent yeah but

you're afraid that we that that that

we'll get along these natives are going

to fall into this their their their uh

inherent savagery so we have to put we

have to make it in Syria that the alwi

have to be in charge even though there

are my a minute sect they're a minute

sect on Earth and and a minute sect in

Syria so we have to make make sure that

they're in charge and that they get all

of the Privileges and all of the

benefits and all of the uh uh corruption

is is to their advantage and so on so

you create sectarianism

MH and now if the

majority is taking

over uh these these so-called

leftists again I don't know what you

really call them because then there then

there are so-called leftists who are

critical of Iran because of the hijab

and whatnot all right but uh the ones

who are who who I don't

know who consider themselves somehow the

uh the online version of chagar or

something uh they love they love they

love Hass right they love

uhan uh and they they they really either

buy into or try to sell the propaganda

of Iran being this great anti-western

power andah being this great resistance

movement that's the only one that cares

about Palestine yeah that that's the

like I like like like I said earlier

it's a common threat between all of them

you know and also again the amusing over

concern for all the precious shrines

yeah that has survived yeah by the way

there hundreds years of Muslim history

Muslim history who protected those

shrines in the first place you have

those shrines remaining today for you to

get scared about and concerned about

this is ridiculous you know exactly

exactly not fooling any thinking

person because again like I said it's

I'm very sorry to to

uh give the bad news to anyone who

believes all of this propaganda but uh

Iran the current regime in

Iran and

heah uh serve the interest of the

colonizers because their function and

their goal is destabilization and

Division and then when we when we talk

about the division and the and the and

the uh the sectarianism and the

disruption and the interference and the

and the instability that they

cause we get accused of

sectarianism because you're only

operating on sectarian basis yeah to

destabilize the Muslims yeah and then

when we point that

out you know we're not doing that to you

you know what I mean M the Muslims

aren't doing that to you we don't start

militant groups in your country MH to

try to make problems for you to try to

compete with the government we don't do

that to you we do that to us and when

you do that to us and we point it out

then you say we're being

sectarian but it's really they're really

showing their colors you know it's I

don't know what they're going to do now

because the last thing that they really

want is

stability uh in the region the last

thing that they want is for the Muslims

to actually

uh control their own

Affairs andah is going to become

extinct uh I I believe that the that the

regime in Iran like I said before the

regime in Iran is either going to be

toppled it's either going to be removed

or it is going to be forced to

capitulate to such an extent in terms of

how it operates that it will be

unrecognizable and according to and

according to uh the way that you all

have understood Iran to be you will be

required to uh denounce them as

sellouts because according to you they

will be sellouts according to us they

will finally stop being sellouts and

actually support Regional stability and

prosperity right if they're able to do

that I'm very

doubtful uh I'm very doubtful that

they'll be able to do it and I'm

doubtful that anyone is really willing

to give them the chance to do it because

there's so much uh

mistrust with the current regime with

the current regime yeah I mean obviously

Iran itself as an entity isn't going

anywhere yeah but but the regime uh has

has

completely

uh built itself on the basis of

sectarian uh division sectarian

animosity in within the region and

causing problems

yeah and posturing yeah that is if they

have if they are allowed to persist with

this religious Theocratic identity that

they cling on to right now yeah that

that is replaced by the old days of the

Sha and just cultural Iran yeah Iran

needs to be secular yeah that Iran needs

to be a secular government that's the

only way that they they need to be you

know like like NBS said that in his

vision the Middle East will be the new

Europe yeah Iran can be France sure Iran

should be cultural yeah the cultural

it's it's very cultural they very very

sophisticated people very oy people you

know Cuisine and whatnot yeah you know

Cinema you can be the you can be the

France of the Middle East uhhuh

uh you know Syria go goes back to its

old days of trading being the trading

Hub you know yeah yeah everything is

returning to its natural state I believe

and I believe that that by the time our

children are adults that's what it will

be and this this one something that

people need to understand when I'm

talking about when I'm making my sort of

forecast or predictions about what's

going to happen in the region I'm

thinking long time I'm not saying this

is going to be this time next year

everything's going to be grand no it's

going to be a bumpy

road but but it's it it will return to

what it always

was and we will see an end into

Israel and we'll we'll be able to look

back on all the things this is why this

is why again why I say when I when I do

analysis I start from the future looking

back at today to try to put it in the

context of the inevitable Muslim Victory

and and it it all makes perfect sense

when you put it in that context when you

understand it in a in a kind of a

retrospect how all of these things that

are happening now are building the steps

forward uh to to that goal yeah to that

to that goal to that achievement to that

ultimate objective yeah