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Okay. Another question I had is in Psalm 22. Yes, I clearly see that it's pointing to Jesus, and a lot of these things don't apply to David entirely; about Jesus. Has nothing to do with David. You can't sell anything that relates to David's life, as far as the historical records are concerned. So, but what about him? But when David is writing this at the time, does he know he's making a prophecy, or does he think he's saying it about himself? But through the Holy Spirit, it's prophetic.
I can't tell you in every instance when David is writing whether he thinks that he's writing about Messiah or whether he's writing about his life experience, which will be a picture of the Messiah to come. I can't tell you that in every place. I don't know that. But am I aware that David knew there are times in which it's not him, it's the Messiah that he's writing about or speaking for? Yes. Psalm 22 would be one of them, because David would know none of that applies to him because his hands and feet were not pierced, and we have no indication anyone cast lots for his garments. So then that would mean that David would be aware he's not talking about himself, right? So he has to be talking about someone else, right? Yeah, that makes sense. And then especially the ending part. Yeah.
And then the other, other example of David knowing he's not talking about himself but someone else is Psalm 110, a Psalm of David where he says, "Yahweh says to my Lord, sit at my right hand and to make your enemies a footstool for your feet." Right. Right. So those two are clear examples: David knowing these are not about me. It's got to be about someone else. Well, who's that someone else? Well, the Messiah, the greater son of David. So that's clear. But are there instances in which it is about David? So something in David's life is going to be a picture of Jesus to come. And when he's talking about himself, is he aware it's going to be a picture of Jesus to come? Most likely not. Maybe, maybe not. Okay. So he's reading about himself, and he knows it's about himself, but he doesn't know that God has that as pointing to an experience that Messiah will also undergo, as a type of David, right? So that we in the future could look back and see the fulfillment of these things.
Only if you believe the New Testament is historically accurate, inspired obviously; because if you're not a Christian and you're not a Jew and you're—I mean, if you're a Christ-rejecting Jew, Muslim, say, "No, no, the New Testament is making it up." You, as a believer who believes in the New Testament, it's historically accurate and inspired, and that the historical Jesus did the things the gospel say, then yes, we then look at the New Testament to see, "Oh, this wasn't about Jesus. It was about this person, but it became a picture of an event in Jesus's life." So, it's a shadow of the ultimate reality. Right?
I'll give you an example of an event in David's life that when David experienced it had nothing to do with Jesus, but it became a picture of Jesus to come. When you get a chance, you're going to read 1 Samuel from chapter 8. You're going to read all the way to chapter 15. Saul is from the tribe of Benjamin, the son of Kish, right? Yes. He's chosen as king. So, he's Saul. He's from the tribe of Benjamin. He's not from the tribe of Judah, son of Kish. All right? He's God's anointed, but because he sins against God, disobeys God, God rejects him. That's 1st Samuel 15. Then from 1st Samuel 16 onward starts the story of God selecting David to be his replacement. Right? Yes. Now pay attention, everyone. Saul realizes that God has rejected him and has now appointed David. Now he's trying to get rid of David and kill him. And David, in two occasions, could have killed Saul, but chose not to. He chose to spare him and told Saul, "I could have touched you and killed you, but I dare not touch the anointed of the Lord." And Saul pretty much says, "You're a better man than me." All right. So, who tried to kill David and stop his kingdom from advancing? Saul, right? From the tribe of Benjamin. Yes. Okay. Now, go to Romans 11:1, guys. Pay attention to this. Okay, I'm there. Read for me about Paul. Who is Paul? Romans 11:1. I ask then, did God reject his people? By no means. I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. Wait, so Saul—Paul—is from the tribe of Benjamin. Yes. Now go to Philippians 3:5. Circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, in regard to the law, a Pharisee. As for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless. Okay, wait. Saul—Paul—is from the tribe of Benjamin. Yes. And he tried to destroy the kingdom of Jesus, the greater son of David. Yes. Wow, that's clicking. Now you clicked, huh? That's incredible. Two Sauls, both from Benjamin, both trying to destroy the Davidic kingdom. Saul, the son of Kish of Benjamin, tried to get rid of David so he wouldn't be king. Then Saul, who is Paul, of the tribe of Benjamin, trying to destroy the kingdom of Jesus. Wow, I have such a big smile on my face right now.
Now understand though, when David was being persecuted by that Saul, did he think this is going to be a picture of Jesus being persecuted by another Saul from the same tribe? Not at all. Exactly. Is this what we would call a typology? Yes. Saul is a type of the other Saul because David is a type of Jesus. Now, Saul—Paul—died and he was raised a new creation. So that Saul who wanted to kill Christians and destroy Christ's kingdom, he died when he was buried with Christ in baptism, and a new Saul was resurrected: one who loves Jesus and became one of the greatest expanders of the kingdom of Jesus the Messiah. Wow. Because if you go to Romans 6: verses 3-6, Paul tells you when we are baptized for the sake of Christ, that's when we are buried and our old sinful nature is destroyed. And when we come out of the waters, we are being raised with Jesus to a new life. Romans 6: verses 3-6. Yes. Everyone got it? Who's listening? Thank you. That's really cool. I want to share that with a lot of people. Yes. I'll read it. Yes, to six. Yeah. Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we finished that part, that we go ahead. That we should no longer be slaves to sin, because anyone who has died has been freed from sin. So that old Saul who wanted to destroy the kingdom of Jesus the greater David died. Yes. Because he was baptized with Christ. His old self was buried. When he came out of the water baptism, he became a new creation. Yes. So the old Saul, the old Paul who hated Christ and wants to—his kingdom—he died, right? Yes. So he was removed, and a new Saul, a Saul that was now recreated to love Jesus, was born in his place. Right. Yes. Just like the Saul of the time of David, of the tribe of Benjamin, he died and was taken out of the way so he would stop persecuting David. Mhm. So there you go. History repeats itself, but anyway, I hope that answered your question. Do you have any other ones? Uh, no. I think that's—I actually have one more. Okay, go ahead.
You might have—you might have touched on it a little, but in Hebrews 2, there's a lot of quotations from the Old Testament. Yes. And it quotes even Psalm 22. Yeah. Psalm 22:12. Yeah. And when they're—when the New Testament is quoting the Old Testament, sometimes I conflate where the line of prophecy comes in and then where the line of—they're just quoting it. Well, it's—when you say quoting it, obviously they're taking that as being prophetic of Jesus, right? Because it's on about Jesus's death, resurrection, and then appearing to the disciples to glorify the Father with them in the congregation, in the church, right? Yes. So that's a prophecy because that's proclaiming an event in the life of Christ. Yeah, that one for sure. Yeah. But in Hebrews 2:13, he cites Isaiah 8:17-18, which is about Isaiah and his children, whom God gave as a sign of God bringing judgment on Judah for their sins against God. Right. Yes. So that's not prophetic about Jesus, but it is a type, a shadow pointing to Jesus and the children that God gave him to redeem so they can be sons and daughters of God. So sometimes it's like biblical truths, like in the case of Isaiah, and other times it's mentioning the fulfillment of prophecies, like in Psalm 22. Yeah. So yeah, biblical truth meaning serving as a picture of a future event. Past realities that become pictures of future events, but then there are statements about a future event, not a past reality that's a picture of the future. Now do you wonder why Isaiah 8:17-18? If you guys are listening, this is going to be meat right here. Why is Isaiah 8:17-18, which is about Isaiah and his sons being signs that God gave to the king of Judah that Judah would be devastated because the king refused to submit to God but wanted to come into covenant with my ancestors, the Assyrians, to God's anger. Why is that applied to Jesus redeeming believers, making them sons and daughters of God? Why did he give the sign? Why was that quoted about Jesus? Because he's the virgin birth. Is it not that section? Yes. Because he's the Emmanuel of Isaiah 8:8 and 10. The Emmanuel of Isaiah 7:14 that Isaiah's children were a picture of. I see. Right. Because in Isaiah 8: verses 8 and 10, it talks about the land of Emmanuel, God with us, being devastated. Yeah. And who's Emmanuel? The virgin-born son of Mary in Isaiah 7:14. So that section is about the coming Emmanuel. And when Hebrews cites it, he's pretty much showing you Emmanuel has come. Isaiah's children were a picture of the Emmanuel, and he's here. And he now redeems them from devastation. See how deep it is? Yeah, there you go, sir. Hope that answered that. I don't know if it did.
So, it's not like they're simply taking passages that have no relevance to Messiah Jesus. Because that section of Isaiah 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, that entire section from Isaiah chapter 7-11 is all about the greater David, the son of David, the Messiah. It culminates in Isaiah 11. I've heard it phrased like this: There's like with prophecies, there's like a double—no, framing. No, I wouldn't use that term. No, it's not double. It's—it's more of when you see events in the life of Jesus, you see that these events are deliberately designed to recapitulate the history of Israel. So you don't call it double prophecy. No, it's more of what happens to people in the past is then experienced by Jesus as he then lives out those experiences in order to succeed where they failed. Understood. When Israel went into the desert 40 years, Jesus went into the desert 40 days. Israel failed the temptation; Jesus succeeded. Wow. Yeah. So, I wouldn't call it double prophecy. I know that's the term used for Isaiah 7:14. It's more of he's reliving the important events in the past where these characters either failed or didn't live up to God's standard so that he can then do what they could not do. He relives those events, and he perfectly consummates and carries out what these others were unable to do. That makes perfect sense. In a sense, he fulfills them, teaching. Okay. Thanks so much, Sam. And uh, sorry for everyone's ears. No, no, it's good. It was better now. God bless you. Yeah. God bless you, too. Take care.