Transcription
The great thing about fire is it's never really out. Because if you truly know the element of fire, there's always a spark and all it takes is a spark and it reignites and then it goes like crazy. But what happened is disappointment can create uncertainty.
All right, grab a seat. This gentleman here, give a microphone. Yes, sir. Mic's on its way. We have to plow through the people. Can we have a hand for our mic runners who are doing this amazing job, ladies and gentlemen?
What's your name? Where you from? My name is Josh. I'm from Utah. Josh from Utah. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh, tell us what was your old story? Life was about what? You felt what you dealt with. What challenges you had, what beliefs, what role did you play, and then tell us what your new story is, what life's about, what role you play, what emotions you feel, how it turns out.
So, I took more of a narrative approach to this. Hopefully, that's okay. Everything's okay here. Okay. So, this is an inspirational story about a boy who grew up in rural Michigan with an alcoholic father who found the love of his life and followed his dreams. He went from working in restaurants to eventually becoming an entrepreneur, a tech entrepreneur. He built four tech companies, had two great successes and two great failures. And after his two companies failed, he questioned his ability to make his dreams come true and he lost his fire.
What emotions did he feel most often at that stage? Heartbroken. What else? As if you need anything else. Frustrated. What else? Defeated. One more. Small. And what do we feel like life was about at that stage? He's not sure. Yeah. At that stage. Yeah. That's the worst feeling of all, isn't it? Yeah.
What's your new story since you're the writer, director, and producer of this movie? Well, I have two. Okay, wonderful. I have alternate versions because I have two souls. One's a hippie, the other's an entrepreneur, and they fight constantly. They have my whole life. I love that. I think that's wonderful.
Before you tell me the story, tell me what's the difference between the hippie and the entrepreneur? Because I know some hippie entrepreneurs and I still have some entrepreneurs that are hippie-ish. I would love to zip those two together. Um, wow. If you'd already done it, how did you do that? Just before you tell me how you already did it, tell me. They both have an important role in your life. They do. Tell me what I'm going to speak to the hippie first if I may. So, could you come out here so I can meet the hippie?
I'm holding it forever. Like a treasure from the tree. Right from the tree. Hey, you even got the moves. I'm impressed. Okay. So, I want to speak only to the hippie in you, Josh, if that's okay. Yeah. So just walk right there and and when you rise in that spot, be the hippie completely in your body, in your heart, in your feelings, your emotions, and you nod when you're there. So am I speak am I speaking to the hippie right now? Yes. Great. A nervous hippie. Nervous hippie. Well, I'm Tony. Nice to meet you. Nervous hippie. Tony, great to meet you. Nice to meet you, too. Thank you for sharing with us. I know you play a huge and important role in Josh's life. And if you're that big a part of him, you are trying to provide certain things for him that are very important. And I'm wondering if you'd be willing to share with us what's your purpose in Josh's life. What are you trying to create for him? And I want the hippie to answer, not your head. Just the first response from the hippie.
I'm trying to show him what really matters. Yes. And that he's actually already living his dream life. The things that he matter that that really matter to him, family, love, togetherness, nature, have nothing to do with entrepreneurship or wealth or the things he seems to be so consumed over with for the last couple of decades. Yes, we don't need that money. We don't need any of the things that he's so stressed about. He we would be happy living in a trailer in a desert and that's all we really need. And he knows that his wife would be right there with him. She doesn't she thrifts. She doesn't need any of the things he's been fighting for. I see. So those are really valuable things for him to know because what you're really trying to do is bring him back to basically his soul and spirit and make sure that he doesn't let the external world control him or pull him in a way that takes him away what matters most. Is that is that what you're trying to do? That's it. Great. I think that's incredibly important and valuable and um I think the role you're playing is really important. I'd love if you'd allow me to to talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort, and delete that someone who's an entrepreneur is just in it for themself or they're just in it for self-grandization. But the most successful ones I know in the world have a mission bigger than themselves. That's why they can build things. That's why they can bring people together because if it was just about me, it wouldn't happen. But if you're trying to serve something more than yourself, you know, the empty part of you knows, if I'm just trying to serve me, I'm going to get a certain amount of insight from the universe. If I'm trying to serve my family, I'm going to get more insight because life supports whatever supports more of life. I'm supporting more of life. I'll get more insights in my life. Serving tens of millions of people. Things happen. People stand up and I know things I cannot know. That is not me. That is because it's my calling. And that's because it's being given because it's serving more than me. And in here it's not only just serving them or you and the entrepreneur but all the other people that have divisions within themself at times and we don't have to draw a line. That's the challenge in our world. You know, when I've been on talk shows like CNN and I remember when the, you know, after the Sandy Hook situation, things like that, and everyone was like, "Guns must go on CNN." And they brought some other people pushing for guns. And they invited me to be on the panel. And I stopped the whole conversation by saying it was getting so angry. And I was like, I said, "I'm capable of anger, too, but I don't think that's going to solve anything here. Nor is judging each other. Why don't we figure out what we have an alignment on?" And I said the alignment is I think both sides want the exact same thing. We all want our children protected. We all want our environment to be safe. The only difference we have is our belief about how to get there. Some believe guns are important to have. Some people say getting rid of guns is doing it. But we want the same thing. So maybe we need to be a little kinder if we're really a hippie to the other parts because that's what makes us a great hippie is we're just really another word for hippie would be a great lover. A lover of mankind. A lover of humanity. A lover of people who can't give you anything back but you still love them. A lover who can do things and not ask for anything in return. I think that's what Joshua's entrepreneur at this deepest level is pulled. He's pulled to create. He's pulled to build because he has that capability and that needs to be fulfilled while he's enjoying the fruits of the labor he's already had. Those are my hallucinations. Well, if I knew for sure, I'd say for sure. I haven't checked in with him yet, but are you open to that as a possibility? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Do you mind if I talk to the entrepreneur as well because I'd love to see if there's a bridge because the entrepreneur is driven as well and I happen to have both feelings inside myself because I'm the guy that cries at the drop of the hat and rips open the building. So, I can relate to Josh in some ways. I have the part of me that's so happy I don't have to do a damn thing in my life ever again, but another part of me that has to find a way to serve. And I think the hip in you also want service. Absolutely. Yes. You left that part out. I think out of your protection of Josh, you're really trying to protect him from what you think will hurt him and hurt his family. You may be leaving out another set of qualities that are important to his spirit. And you may be making judgments, which I've done, about how that's being done. Like if money's involved because money and activity of that nature I didn't see as spiritual in the hippie part of myself. But you know I got to the point where there were so many frustrations and lack of resources and I know Josh has plenty now but in my life where it's like I began to realize this is incongruent for me if I'm here to have impact not to find the way to serve at all levels.
In other words, Hippie Josh, if he could be more giving, should he? Hippie Josh. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I'm I'm only talking to Hippie Josh. And if he could be more intelligent, should he be? More intelligent. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And if he could be more compassionate, should he be? Absolutely. And if he could be more financially abundant and share that, should he be? Absolutely. Okay, good. Then there's a bridge available there because sometimes we only look at one part of it. And Josh, hit me Josh. I know on a 0 to 10, your importance in his life is probably an 11. But if you throw your weight around too much, it's that experience, if I may do this with you, where you push and even hippie push, even hippie Josh pushes back. I didn't say to push back. You put all your weight into it. And then imagine, we won't do it, but imagine we're pushing that hard and our face is this close and we love each other and somebody slips. That's what happens if we overstate.
Mhm. So the beautiful hippy Josh that you've done is you're grounded in the most important things, but you're leaving out something that you value, which is contribution on a significant scale. And perhaps sometimes we've seen people use money and things as power to take advantage of others. The hippie part of me has seen this. And I'm never going to be that. And decided for a long time, I just want to have any money. I also didn't want the judgment from my friends. Yeah. But after a while I thought, am I really that limited? After a while, I thought, if I could be more loving, should I? Yes. Smarter, should I? Yes. Giving, should I? Yes. More financially abundant. How could I say no to that if I'm a creature of God and he's given me the gift to create? And especially if I use that creation not just to serve myself and not even just my family, but mass numbers of other people. And so I began to realize that there could be a merger in entrepreneurial terms. Yes. Between the hippie and me, which really is just the part of me that has nothing but love and just wants to serve. And the part that wants to be abundant so that all the choices that my family wants to have that I'd like to have and quite frankly so that whatever God has given me gets maximized because it's more challenging than just me enjoying myself by myself. I can sit and do nothing. I don't have to do any of this. I can go home. I have the most perfect family and the dearest friends and live on the beach or you know I have all this abundance like Josh has. But I'm still pulled because I don't think Josh is going by push motivation if you check in with him. I think it's more pull motivation like a calling. And if Hell yeah. And you can recognize that the hippie part of you understands a calling and especially a calling that has service involved. And perhaps the one thing that I'd like you to consider if you could, my hippie to yours, is that if I can serve more by doing that, too, and I don't lose my center, then I'd be an idiot not to do that. And I certainly wouldn't be glorifying my creator who gave me the ability. If I have these abilities, there must be a deeper reason than just abundance for me or my family. And so, I could just say, I got enough. I'm 65 years old. I've served tens of millions of people. Pretty amazing life. I could just cap it as a win. But there's something inside me that's hungry to still serve. And I think for me, I don't know what it is for Josh. I'm going to find out when I talk to the entrepreneur. But for me, it's because I suffered so much. I don't want anybody else to suffer. So if I can figure something out that can end suffering, food, oxygen, slavery, mental slavery, emotional slavery, then how could I waste my life just enjoying myself when I could be enjoying myself and serving? I think that might be what entrepreneurial Josh is called to be as opposed to the ones that are just pushed by ego. And it's easy to generalize, distort