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Christ Consciousness (Occult Doctrines, "Oneness", & New Age Roots)

The Deep End w/Taylor Welch1:08:33

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In like pop spirituality today, Christ consciousness is just like unconditional love, universal awareness. It shows up in like second, third century Gnosticism, where it's just like only talking about Jesus being like a spark within us. And it's the founding roots of Christ consciousness that took 1700 years to fully manipulate out.

The occult took this and began to run with it in the late 1800s, began to position Christ as a cosmic principle of sorts. It would be a mistake to assume that the people who lived with him, walked with him, understood the context of what Jesus was saying. They interpreted what he said as him claiming to be God. So, what makes us think in 2025, we're like, "Nope, they misunderstood. I understand." It's silliness.

Jesus showed up and says, "I'm presenting God to you right now." His claim was so intense. It was like, "If you've seen me, you've seen God. I will forgive you your sins because you sinned against me." If the New Testament wasn't legitimate, you can't learn about Alexander the Great either. Isaiah 7:15, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel." Do you know what Immanuel means? God with us. Not perfect prophet with us.

The premise that Jesus was just a good person, the perfect example of enlightenment. Can you be the perfect version of enlightened human and be a rampant liar? So, either Jesus is a liar or he's God. And either he's the perfect example that you say is in everybody or he is God. There is no in-between.

Everyone wants to get to the high places, but if you want to go high, you first have to go deep. What's up? Welcome back to the deep end. How are you, Jake? Great, dude. Is Jesus God? 100%. Is that your opinion? 100% my opinion. Do you have any facts to back it up? It is also fact. What do you want from me right now? How you going to prove it? Huh? How you going to prove it? How am I going to prove it? I mean, I can work on it, but I don't think that's what people clicked on this video to watch. That's what we're doing today. We're going to take you through a glimpse into my brain.

Have you seen those people who are talking about Christ consciousness and Jesus never claimed he was God and all the time, dude? It's a massive topic right now. On the rise. Uh-huh. And we should tackle it because it will break a lot of things if you get into that point where you're like, "Jesus is just like, you know, Abraham Lincoln or whatever." Which is weird. First of all, like I don't know how people came up with this. I do. We're going to explain it, but it's kind of dumb. But anyways, how you go with that? That sounds Is that a better intro? I think that's a much better intro. We're going left. We're going right? Nope. Straight in the middle. Nope. Let's go back right. Keep us on.

Guys, for the record, we're recording this. This is our second interview today. I'm going on vacation tomorrow to hang with my wife Lindsay in New York. It's my favorite place in the world. I like it better than London. I just made that decision because London's a contender. It's a close second. Surprising to me. We were just in London and it was it was actually really good, but it was very traumatic at the beginning because the last time I was in London, you lost your passports. I No, dude. I lost my passports and I was going through the worst season of my life. Oh, yeah. I didn't know how to pray. I didn't really have God. And my body remembered what it was like to be in the city. I did not, I did not count on it being as triggering as it was. But once we were there, I was like, "All right, God. Let's let's rip this stuff out. What do I need to do?" He's like, "Sit down. Feel it. Turn on some music and sit." I was like, "No, feel it. No." Just sat in my hotel room for the first day. You know, you're jet-lagged. We landed at 9:30. You have to stay awake all day so that you get on the new time zone. And this basically the whole day I was like, "Dude, I feel like I'm about to die." Basically, just feel it. I'm here with you. You're good. Just feel it. Mhm. And then at the very end of the day, he said, "Write a list of everything you were worried about in 2023. Everything you can think of." So I made this big giant list. I'm like, "This isn't working. This is making me feel a lot worse." And he said, "Now cross off everything that I handled." And I was like, "Oh, you sneaky Jehovah sneaky." All right. And I crossed off almost everything on the list. And he was like, "What makes you think I'm not going to cross off the things that you're worried about now?" And I was like, "This is a redemptive trip because I'm supposed to do things in the city, but I had a relationship with the city." It's just like the energy relationship proximity that was super triggering. So, it was great. Then we came back, went to a conference and I'm about four months, five months overdue for a vacation. So, I'm dude, hang with my people in New York. Y'all are the best people in the world. I love you. But you're an introvert. So, it's going to be like in a hotel reading a book and no one's going to find you with a hat on. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And by the time that you watch this episode, Taylor's already been to New York and come back. So, yeah. We would never tell you ahead of time where where I'm going to be. No. Mm-m. No chance. No chance.

So, Christ consciousness, that's where you want to go. Yeah. If you want to. Um, like I said, this is the second episode of the day, so we're going to hopefully stay on track. Yeah. And that's if we don't, it's your fault. It's interesting to me. It's an interesting concept to me because I've heard it from people that are not believers and I've always just kind of like sat with this thing of like, first of all, where the heck did this come from? Like I hadn't heard of it until probably, I don't know, five years ago realistically and it always just sounded weird. I'd be like, "You're saying Christ consciousness as if it's this widespread thing, but you don't believe that Jesus is God. So, do you just not want to submit to him? Like, what's the deal?" Like I've heard this in primarily just New Age circles, but it's it's a very confusing topic to me as somebody who says Jesus Christ is Lord. I don't, for me it just kind of hits my brain and like, where did this come from? What, why do people believe this? Why is it? I don't understand. Honestly, I really don't understand it. At its prime level, it came a long time ago. It got popular in the 1800s. Um, I mean, it's pretty easy if you talk to Jesus, you kind of figure out that he's God pretty quickly. Sure. Um, and if you see Jesus in, if you see what he does, it's pretty easy to be like, "Every power in the earth and underneath the earth and above the earth is is kind of like staying out of his way." Doesn't really want to be. You figured out, uh, when I explain to people who are unsaved who will come to conferences and, you know, how we do. We don't, we don't push anything on people. You believe what you want to believe and if it works for you, that's fine. Um, which is what makes me not a pastor because people get upset that I will not go on record and be like, at a business event, they're like, "Why don't you share the gospel sometimes?" I'm like, "Because I understand authority and I understand the containers that God has put me in." So, if I'm teaching business owners, they'll they'll figure it out. And so, one time somebody called me. He was like, "How, how do I get rid of this demon or whatever?" And I had to take him through like explaining this process of like, "You need Jesus." And he's like, "Jesus, is that like a Christian thing?" I was like, "Not really. It's it's more of like since the beginning of time, power structure thing. Um, it's he's quite important, bigger than than you know, Christianity. Like Christianity should be built on Jesus, but it's bigger than that." Yeah. Um, and he was like, "How do you know that Jesus is the most powerful?" I was like, "Bro, I've like seen Jesus walk in, everything runs away." So, you eventually come, you just get a data bank of experiences, right? And especially if you talk to him, it's even anecdotally evident that like he's obviously at the top of the totem pole.

But here's what I think happened. There's a really great poem. It's not scripture, but it is fascinating. It's called "The Harrowing of Hell." Have you heard of this? No. Who's written by? I have no idea. Just Google it. Um, like I said, it's the second interview of the day and so just bear with us. I have to get all the facts now. You got to get the facts. "The Harrowing of Hell." And it's a poem that they have sort of kept alive and I think it was like six, 700 years ago that George M. Brown, that it was old. It's very old. Mhm. And it's about Jesus when he is in the three days where his body is deceased and he's in the tomb. He goes down to hell and he plunders it and he takes the keys of death and all of this stuff. And it's riveting when you hear this person's perspective. It's again, it's not canonized, but it's like I think he's, I think it doesn't disqualify, it doesn't argue with anything in scripture. Mhm. So when I read it, I was like, "This is the most gangster thing I've ever read, ever." Cuz it's like Jesus is obviously God going into, what does the scripture say? David says, "If there's nowhere I can go from your presence, if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there." Well, God's not anywhere without being recognized as the sovereign authority, which means God has a throne in Sheol because he's still God. Doesn't matter where he is. Mhm. M You're not going to find God without a throne. He owns all of it. He owns all of it. So David is even testifying like, "If I go to the bottom of hell, you still have jurisdiction and a throne." That is, and and that doesn't mean that God lives there and goes there. But this is what happened. Jesus went down and he was recognized as God and took everything and then left. And so Satan made a horrible mistake. He miscalculated the odds, which he's bound to do. You give him, you give Satan enough time, he's going to mess up. Mhm. And he's been doing that forever. And um, when he made that mistake, he had to play, he had to play ball. He had to switch strategies at some point. And we'll talk a little bit about how altars work, which substantiates why Jesus had to be God. If you're good with that, we'll go down that that train. Um, but Satan made a mistake. And so he started trying to adjust and adapt at this point. Don't ask me for scripture on this. I don't know. Um, but this is like when you look at history, this is like, you know, how he thinks, you know, how the mind of God programs people in civilization. Mhm. And so what he started to do is he's got to have seeds planted in the ground so that the kingpin, the cornerstone, it's easier for you to hit a leverage point. Even if you're training in Krav Maga or Jiu-Jitsu, or whatever, it's all leverage point driven. Mhm. Like rather than just going to blows with you, it'd be easier for me to find the leverage points and go after that. Right? That makes sense, right? It's common sense. Spiritually and from an ideology, you have the same effect. What's the leverage point of this belief system of the gospel? What's the easiest way to disqualify the gospel? And you see him doing these different things. So like, you know, the Bible says that the Sanhedrin came and they're like, "Hey, you need to put Roman guards on this because Jesus said he was going to raise himself in three days and we don't want that to happen. We don't want the disciples to steal the body and have you read this." And so they send the Roman soldiers and the Roman soldiers come back and then you come back and then they're like, "Paid off." That's a leverage point. What's one of the biggest leverage points of the gospel? Can we convince society that Jesus did not raise from rise from the dead? That would be an ideological leverage point. Mhm. Well, a bigger leverage point would be that Jesus was, convince people that he was just a good man. It's a leverage point. So, it actually shows up in like second, third century Gnosticism, which is where I think you have like the Gospel of Thomas and all of this random stuff where it's just like only talking about Jesus being like a spark within us. And it's the founding roots of Christ consciousness that took like 1700 years to fully manipulate out. Geez. So it starts there. Is where mysticism come? Like I don't, I don't like when people call it like Christian mystic. Like, no, you're just a Christian. I don't even know what that term is. Christian mystics, or I think what they think of themselves as like people who adhere to the spiritual world, but like Paul wasn't a Christian mystic. He was just a follower of Jesus who operated in this. So we have all of these fractured ideologies that are built for deception. I think they came from Satan because he was like, "When we lost this, and there's no coming back from this. So the only way for us to kick the can down the road, because all creation is waiting and groaning for the sons of God, us to step into what we're called to do. The only way to get them to not do this is I have to isolate this leverage point, this leverage point, and I have to take them out." And one of the main ones is, "Can we convince people that Jesus was not God and instead convince them that it's just a good person and we can ascend the same way by being a good person?" Dude, that's wild. That's that's crazy. Is this better? Yeah, this is okay. Um, that makes that makes so much sense. Like, yeah, that that clocks in my head a lot. So, they didn't use the term Christ consciousness back then. Sure. But they began to explain him as just like a divine spark inside the human existence. Mhm. And that's what the, that was what this, there's a scripture even of a parable where a farmer plants seeds and then people come to the master like, "Master, there's there's weeds in this." And he was like, "An enemy has done it." And they were like, "Master, should we rip out the weeds?" And he said, "No, you'll kill the, you'll kill the plant. So wait for the plant and the tares, the wheat and tares to grow together and then at a pointed time, I'll remove the tares so it won't kill the plant." That's where we are civilizationally right now where like I believe that there are things that God has has allowed to even in our own hearts, love of money, love of status. Like there's all of these different things that are weeds. They're all distractions. They're all distractions. But in mercy, he's allowed some things to a certain point. And now we're at a place where as a society at large, we need to start pulling out some of these tares. Mhm. Because it's no longer going to compromise the actual seed of the gospel. Um, it carried forward from the Gnostic 2nd, 3rd century into like the Renaissance. You skip a thousand years and you have these people who are writing treatises and they're writing books. The early church wrote a lot. So you can see what the early church talked about when you study their writings. Like they're, you can find them. They wrote all the time. Like the way that we do YouTube, they just wrote letters. Mhm. Back and forth and they were trying to, they were trying to figure out a system to protect the belief and the integrity of the belief because of this stuff. Like you have random people who were showing up. They were returning people back to workspace. They were mystics and Gnostics. And so they wrote all the time. But what they always were writing about was the patience of Jesus and the godhood of Jesus. And so they were, they were trying to keep the church centered and it got a little bit out of control. So a thousand years go by, the 1400s, 1500s, you have people start using the terms like Jacob Boehme in 1595 or 1600 started using this term "Christ formed within," which is not on its surface bad, but it's another seed. It's like a Christ not a person, but Christ formed within us. And they're starting to use this like enlightenment era. Christ is less of a savior for sin and he's more of a sign of universal wisdom.

Well, wait. Can I compare it to something to make sure I'm understanding? Yeah. It sounds like in the way that you would say the spirit of Jezebel is not actually, no, that's not totally accurate because it's mentioned in Revelation. Let's say spirit of Python. We don't say spirit of Python is like a specific demon or a specific principality. It's like a character trait, right? So, it sounds like the enemy is is Well, go ahead. Python. No. Um, there is there is like a Python and then there are things that belong to the rank of Python. Got it. But when people are talking about like Jezebel, their traits and sometimes their faces of Python. And I think I understand what you're saying, but there is there is there is a fallen cherubim named Python. Got it. Okay. What I'm making the comparison to is it sounds like people, it sounds like the enemy is actually trying to get something in people's minds that it's not really Jesus. It's the spirit of correct. We're not calling it Holy Spirit, but we're saying, "Oh, you have the traits of Jesus. You're like Jesus." That's interesting. Is that? But there is also a spirit of Jesus. Correct. Absolutely. Absolutely. But it's a slight, slight offshoot, which is what makes it deception with lies. Yes. That you will never find deception that doesn't have a lot of truth in it. It's so small. Yep. That.

Okay. Then you have the 1800s and it starts getting deeper where you have there was a church called Unity Church in the 1800s where they began to talk about, for the first time, like Christ consciousness as a thing. This is a church. This is awesome. It like came from like Protestant, Catholic. What, what kind of, what actually, what I believe happened, and we'd have to look up the history, but there are, you know, Gary Wayne talks about Theosophy and occultism and the occult and the church were kind of blended together more than they should have been and they Yeah, that's Yeah, I mean, he did say actually, I'm not going to quote that, but man, you, you know, most most most witches today are Christians. In what way do you mean that? In and they're like sorcerers. Okay. They're they're practicing sorcerers. And that's going to open up a whole can of worms. I'm really sorry, but that's just the context that you mean by that is witches are acting as if like they're not real Christians, but they're acting how a lot of Christians really are. Or they're like, they're they're using salvation as a green card and then trying to trying to use scripture to get what they want. Mhm. Which is that's the balum. That's the you've been you've been given a gift and now you're using it for your own personal gain. You're using it to tear down strongholds that you personally want torn down. That doesn't, who cares what God said? This is like what I'm, this is a dream on my heart. Mhm. And so like sorcery in the church has not always been separate. In fact, most of history it's been woven together. And this is because of these these things that I'm talking about with like, how can we infiltrate? Satan's infiltration-oriented. Like, why would he want to kill your gifts? He doesn't want, he wants to use them. He wants to take the worship leader with a gift and an anointing to sing and point people to Jesus. And then one day instead of pointing people to Jesus, the worship leader points people to himself. And it feels really good and he never gets out of that. That's that's what he does. How amazing would it be for him if one day we decided to just use this channel to make myself great and start like feeding off of the status and which happens all the time, by the way. And then it's like, man, he wins. That's that's the, that's how he gets it. And then you're like, "Okay, well, full-on sorcerer like on a deep end YouTube channel." And it's like, "No, no, we that's why we have to be super careful that we understand the sovereignty and the rulership of Jesus." Mhm. And if I ever do anything that, um, Jesus, you're like, you can tell like God didn't ask you to do that. I won't call out for it because it's kind, sometimes it can be sneaky. Mhm.

Um, the occult took this and began to run with it. So in like the late 1800s you have, uh, Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine." This is 1888, began to position Christ as a cosmic principle of sorts. It was no longer a person. No, Christ is a principle that we can use. It's kind of like a universal logos. It's universal truth. Um, and this is where the occult takes it and begins to run with it because they see, they, it is something that can pull away the power of the gospel. Um, even when you, Alice Bailey in the early 1900s began teaching that Christ is just an energy or a world teacher. You know, Alice Bailey is like a central figure in the occult. Starting to talk about Christ as an energy source, not as a person.

Okay. How does that work? What is the Christ as an energy source? Like, what does that mean? Alice Bailey said that that Christ was a, a principle of energy that manifested through Jesus. But where does he think the energy came from? He knows where. Alice, I think, was a female, but she knew where it came from. Was Alice Bailey a boy or a girl? We need to look at that. Yeah, woman. Okay. Um, she knows where it came from. Didn't want, but didn't want to admit it for what purpose? Because she's an occultist. So consciously aware that Jesus is God, but doesn't want, but wants to trick everybody else into thinking otherwise. Yeah. If you're not like a high-ranking witch and haven't heard of Jesus. Mhm. But isn't there some sort of, but there's usually some sort of bad narrative tied to him, though? Yeah, there was, could be deception. So you think that Jesus is Satan, or you think that God is the one that's punishing everyone and Satan's trying to save? But that's all distortion. That's all storytelling. That's all narrative. Like they all know, they all know that Jesus is at the rank of a god. Got it. And then so why, at the end of the day, like, what's the point of taking that idea and feeding it to people? Is it to make people better people? What's, what's, is it to lead Christians away from God? What's like the real motive? I, I've never been a practicing occult member, so I wouldn't be able to, I wouldn't be able to tell you. Clarification. I mean, there was, who was this guy that, um, he's South African. He was one of the highest-ranking warlocks in Africa. He got saved. Um, you talking about James? James. Yeah. James Qualia. Yeah. Yeah. Where he, he was like, if you listen to his testimony, like he was up there like running the continent of Africa. Yeah. Um, and he like desperately wanted to be free, but he felt like he had, he was too trapped, like there was no way out. There's a sunk cost bias where you've signed the contracts, you're in the covenants, and like there's nothing to do. And Jesus shows up, broke him off of that and was like, overwhelmingly grateful. So, I think that, I don't know. I'm not a warlock, so I can't tell you like what the motivation would be, nor does it really help.

I was talking with a mentor who's a seer and a prophet, and I just had this conversation with Jesus a few days ago. This is an aside, but I'll go there and we'll track back if that's okay. Where I'm talking with Jesus and, and to be honest, my relationship with Jesus has been the weakest of the, like I can hear the voice of Holy Spirit in my thoughts and then I can hear the voice of God, but I very rarely am asking for Jesus, like for Jesus to talk to me. Um, and the reason for that is because I have gotten into this place recently where I either need counsel or I need help. Like one of the two, which I'm not saying that's good, but I'm either sitting down like, "Holy Spirit, what am I supposed to do here?" Or I'm like, "God, you have to feed me." You know, like it's one of those two. And I haven't made enough time to just be like, "I just want to, I just want to worship Jesus," but I also want to hang out with my friend. Jesus said, that's his defining trait. Like he said to his disciples, he said, "You're no longer, you're my friends now." Then this is how he treated them. At the end, you know, he finds them making, making, he's making breakfast for them, which by the way, if you study that story, they were being hella disobedient. He told them where to go and they're not where they're supposed to go. They're fishing. And so Jesus rocks up. They're in disobedience and he doesn't even mention it. Yeah. He just cooks some breakfast. I was like, "Let's hang out." That's Jesus's personality. And so I was having this conversation. Jesus is like, "That part of your mind that protects yourself. Why haven't you given it to me?" I was just like, "I need it. It's my calculator. It's the part of my mind that's kept me safe. It's responsible for my businesses. They brought me out of poverty." Like, why do you want it? Like, you gave it to me. Why don't you want me to use it? And I heard myself speaking and I was like, "Oh my God, dude. This is an idol. It brought me out of poverty. You joking me?" Like, so I'm like, that's not what I was supposed to say. It's pretty clear. And I just said, "I just don't want to. I just am afraid that you won't protect me if I give you this last part of my brain. There's nothing that I have no other line of defense." And he didn't say anything. He just smiled. And I said, "I know what I'm supposed to do." So I said, "Jesus, I give my life to you. I give you this part of my brain. And even if you don't defend me, it would be an honor to die for you." And he just said, "Okay." He said, "You can keep the, you can keep that part of your brain. I want you to use it. Don't plan on dying for me anytime soon. I have a much harder job for you, which is to live." And I was on the phone with my mentor afterwards and I said, "Why would anyone not choose Jesus?" Like, he is, there's no one like him. Like to be able to have that conversation and he knows he knows that you're afraid. He knows that you feel threatened and exposed and then to be able to protect you in your deepest moment of vulnerability. Like, who wouldn't want that? And she was like, "Do you not have you not read your Bible?" And I was like, "What? What?" And she's like, "The word of God says that their hearts will be hardened. And so there are certain people whose hearts are hardened and that's why they, what God says, 'I will take your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.'" And so until you're willing to ask for that, you're not going to, you're not going to understand it. M. So, to answer your question in a long-winded way, I mean, I think there are a lot of people who just have hard hearts and they're they're not asking for soft hearts and like I don't, I don't understand why either. I don't know why you asked that because I'm not a warlock. Got it. Okay.

So it came from way back a couple for centuries, 2,000 years and it expanded and expanded. And Alice Bailey, she expanded even further and she's the first person that made it what would feel like malicious. Up until this point in like the late 1800s, 19 early 1900s, it was more of just like a seed that you could still, it was in the middle, it wasn't bad, good, it was kind of in the middle. And Alice Bailey took it and took it into the bad territory. Oh, where she was like, "Yeah, you know, Jesus wasn't God. It was just an energy that manifested through Jesus." Um, and then you see it going wild in the early 1900s where, um, you know, the yogis pick it up and the Hindus pick it up and the everyone starts picking it up. In fact, there was a book written called "Autobiography of a Yogi" and it used Christ consciousness and Krishna consciousness interchangeably. H This is hitting mainstream around like, you know, who Krishna is, a Hindu god. Uh-huh. And so this author is basically saying things. Dude, yeah. This is this is way more jacked up than I thought it was. It's it's messy. It's very jacked up. It's messy. Um, so obviously Hinduism embraced that because like that sounds, I'm going to try not to get in trouble on this, but we'll just move on. What? Um, the plan of the enemy was always since the beginning to break away Jesus and Christ from a person and put him into a universal truth category, like a universal principle. That was how it started. That's that was what started with the Gnostics earlier in the second, third century. And we're just seeing the full fruition of that plan. The enemy's patient, especially when he has time. And that's now manifesting today as like there's a source energy, which is why people call God source, the same thing. Christ consciousness, source. They're saying there's a source that will manifest through you if you are a good enough person, if you care about what Jesus cared about, you can have the same thing that powered Jesus powering you. And it becomes super complicated and super messy. And so in like pop spirituality today, Christ consciousness is just like unconditional love, universal awareness, ohana, bliss, ascension. Um, even we have to sometimes be careful with even the levels of of energy because the levels of energy can turn into a counterfeit where if you think if you can get to level 10,000 that you are Jesus, you're done. Like you can't. It's not how it works. Um, and so that's where it came from. Okay. Wow. Um, you know what I mean? It made me think of something. It made me think of how a lot of people that I know, um, like when you see a lot of people who have come out of the occult, a lot of them start going into it, they don't really, they kind of identify as atheists and they're like, "No, we're good. I'm good with being like a Satanist," for example, because they're like, "We don't believe Lucifer is God." Like, that's weird because if Lucifer came out right and they saw it, they would be like, "Nope." Like, hard nope. But what Satan seems to do, and I won't even mention like certain secret societies seem to do the same thing, but it's reversed. It's self. It's, "Hey, how do you worship yourself?" Self-help. You've got this movement that's like, "Okay, how do you become God yourself?" If you can get yourself to think that you're God, that means that like everything just starts imploding as quick as possible. So, it makes sense that he would not only do it from the side of, "Oh no, Satan's not God," but also, "Jesus is neither." So, it's like you just implode on yourself. And eventually, I mean, imagine you just, those are the people that I, when I meet those people, usually they're the people that I see are like ungrounded and they're just like, "I don't know. I can't figure out what they're doing with their life." Yeah. I'm most confused. I'm like, "I don't really know what's going on." I'm like, "I get you think ohana means family, but I'm like, I like I feel bad, but I also just don't know what to do. I feel so honestly just confused and I feel bad. I don't even know what to say because I don't even know what the deception is at that point."

It reminds me of Dr. Michael Coochini's story about how he kind of gave his life to the Lord. And I don't think he's ever shared this on our show, but he shared it on his stuff and he was a doctor in India. And he had extreme depression that started showing up and demonic activity. Do you remember the story? I do. And the lights would start flickering and everything and he was like, "What is going on?" So he read everything he could, the Bhagavad Gita, the Book of the Dead, all the Buddhist texts, the Hindu texts, and the Bible. And everything was like, "I'm just going to roll through these and figure out what works." So he's like, you know, he's going doctor on it. Yeah. You know, like experimentation. 100%. Um, and the voices in his head are telling him to kill himself and to like, it's getting nasty. Yeah. Yeah, he can't sleep and he's like in the middle of his experiments rolling through these names and he says the name Jesus and then everything goes away. So he was like, "Huh, I have to figure out why Jesus was that worked, you know, because he's like crazy scientist person." Um, and so he started studying and started exploring and he tested it. And where where it really comes down to is what's going to break people free from this. I want to do an event at some point where we just invite, if you're a Luciferian, come do a miracle. Let us see a miracle. Show us what you can do. And then let Jesus do a miracle. Because that's what worked with Elijah. We can't intellectually argue this to death. Like, but you know what you can't argue with? There was no fire and there is fire. There was no life and there is life. There was a disease and now there's not a disease. That's where we need to get to where the people of God can be like, "No, I will let God defend his name." Yeah. Show me what you can do. And there's this, and we're not allowed to do it yet, but at some point we will, where there's this fascinating effect that happens when somebody sees God do something, all of a sudden they're a believer. Yep. Instead of this ruthless intellectualizing of like deconstruction and like putting it back together, man, just ask God questions. Yeah. Ask God to do things and see what happens because this, that's what like Coochini went through it. Um, dude, there's somebody that I just talked to who like a person was raised from the dead. They've been dead for like four days overseas. That'll do it. Yep. That'll do it. All these debates are cool and you see like the people, you know, Shapiro is doing it where it's like, let's intellectualize. And I just want to do a debate where it's like, no, I don't want to talk to you about that. What's a miracle that you need in your life right now? And then God does it. And what's there? Okay. What else do you want to debate about? That would be more effective in my opinion. Well, they're not there yet, but we'll get there. And it's, I think it's important to recognize the Bible says, "Blessed are those who even didn't even get to see it." Yeah. Blessed are those who have faith in the things they haven't even, they haven't even seen yet. Like that's actually a better, it's a greater gift to have that because then you don't have to live the rest of your life going, "Well, I haven't seen God provide this." I actually made this mistake recently with my wife. I was like, "I've seen God show up in provision and I trust God for provision, but I don't trust him. I've never seen him show up for this." And the first thing she corrected me, she was like, "Well, do you want to have to have God bring you to the end of your rope? Is that what you want?" And I was like, "Well, obviously not." It's like, "Isn't the best thing possible for us to go, God, show me this early? Like, let me trust you. Even though I've never seen you do it before." You know, like that's the best thing we could possibly have with God to say, "Hey, I trust. I trust." It's like you saying, Jake, I've seen you do YouTube really well, but, um, this other thing, I don't think you can do it. It's like you've seen, you have a certain amount of trust for me for my character, yet you still want to see it done, but you trust me because of my character. I like how you also gave yourself a compliment in that example. Okay. You do YouTube really well. Okay. That's true. Examples. It'd be like, it'd be like if Jake, you know, you called me and you're like, "You're the greatest. You're the best. You're the smartest. You're the richest." But then, you know, the smartest, you're the richest. D. All right. Moving on. Okay. Whatever. Uh, moving on. You, you want to keep going? This is the history of it. This is where it came from. It was demonically engineered. It was planted in the soil of society and it was watered for thousands of years until someone came along that could take it and carry forward the mission. And that's what they did.

How did it get into the only, uh, tie up on the loose end would be like, how did it get from Alice Bailey and then how did it sneak into becoming a big part of what I feel like New Age has become essentially? How did it get in there? Do you know? It was a perfect transition into New Age because New Age, what's the crux of New Age? It's like, you are a god. And if you become a good enough person and you remove the blocks and all that stuff, that you can cleanse yourself and ascend. What better tool to do that than remove any evidence that there is a hierarchy? M. So if if there's Jesus and Jesus is God and you know there's a Holy Spirit and there's like a legitimate God that rules all the other gods, you have a hard time making New Age work. Yeah. Because it's not like just energy. Energy is not the source. You know, cause and effect are very important. Like, let's take eating for example. If you don't eat, you know, your body is going to begin to tell you that it's important for you to eat. You're not going to like just forget indefinitely. Sure, we know we're going to need nutrients. And so what do you do when you wake up? You eat breakfast preemptively and then you might not be like starving to death for nutrients at lunch, but you eat again. Why? Because you're going to be hungry. So you, so do we, do we put it in our calendar because we're starving or do we put? No, it's the cause and effect is our body needs nutrients and so we're just going to. Similarly, it's like somebody was asking me, "How do you, how do you start out learning how to hear from God?" I'm like, "I just made the decision in myself and my spirit that I need God's opinion. I'm going to need it at breakfast. I'm going to need it at lunch. I'm probably going to need it at dinner." And so therefore I create a routine for it because I know I'm going to need it. I don't hear from God because I have a routine. I built a routine because I need to hear from God. Cause and effect. Energy is validated and empirical and scientific because it's the way that God built us as stewards over the cosmos. The cause is God. Mhm. All of the downstream effects of that are New Age. When you take a piece of what God built and you begin to worship that, that becomes idolatry. That is what New Age is doing. That, that the Hindu gods are real. They're real things. Well, we shouldn't worship them. Well, there's one true God and none other gods match the match the criteria for being the one true God. El Shaddai, the one in the highest place. There's only one God that fits that bill. This is monotheistic. But when we take a piece of God's personality and we worship that, that creates a cult religion, which is what New Age has become. We take a piece of God and separate it from himself and we turn into a cult. That's, that's wild. Yeah. So it perfectly sub, like went into into New Age. And the problem with New Age is like, you're not at the top of the hierarchy. So you can't really protect yourself. And there are problems with getting into a space that you are not capable of operating in. And so you have a lot of people who are very effective in New Age. Give it to them. Just stop being dumb. Give it to them. If you're going through a hospital and healing kids because you're thinking positive thoughts, that's effective. Like, great. But at some point, once you've reached the end of your utility, there are other things that are higher than you on the totem pole and you will have to bend the knee to them or you'll die. They'll, you'll, everything will be ruined. That this is where they get you. If you can trade early and you don't understand the cost of the trade, then you'll have to pay that later. There's nothing ever that's ever going to get above the hierarchy of Jesus. So Christians don't have a lot to worry about unless you're making covenant with other things. Like you're not going to get into like a, you're not going to get into a bind where they're like, "Bend the knee. I'm going to take you off the face of the earth." It doesn't work that way. Mhm. You know, um, so if we want to talk to Christians for a second, we can use the Bible to backfill this. Because what I don't like is the YouTube channels and the people who are like, "Jesus never said he was God." Bro, shut up. Jesus never said, "Don't breathe underwater." You going to try it? You're freaking dumb. There's a lot of things that Jesus didn't say. Jesus didn't say, "Jump off of a bridge." You going to try that next? Like, it's not, it's a, it's a logical fallacy. It's what it is. But then you have Christians who are getting taken by it and they're like, "Oh, he didn't, he didn't explicitly say, 'I, Jesus, am God.'" He did say he's the truth. He did say he's the truth. He also said, "Truly, truly, verily, verily." But he never said, "I am God." Unless you understand the scripture and then you see him saying he is God all the time. Mhm. All over the place. So, I think we could probably go through a biblical backing of Jesus being God if you want to. Or we can just leave. We can cut the episode now and let people figure it out.

Well, I would also add the Christians that are falling away probably didn't even have much of a relationship with Jesus to begin with because they didn't even know that he has a voice. It's just they don't, it's that, but it's also, um, when you get into a place of confusion, confusion can be an opener of doors and gates that Yeah, true. Like what the enemy is never going to probably come up and say to you, "Jesus isn't God," right? But he will say, "Did Jesus ever say he was God?" Any question the enemy asks you that

You don't have an answer for becomes the seed of an open door? So you need to have the answer to it. Mhm. This is why Eve was taken. Like Satan didn't say, "Like, you know that God is just an idiot, right? And he was like, so dumb." He said, "Did God really say that?" She, like, he confused her. Yep. She didn't know how to answer the question. She's like, she didn't have the clarity to answer it. The o the question is the opening. So the question is, Jesus, God is a significant and important question because if you don't have an answer for it, then you're a couple steps away from this dumb Christ consciousness idea. Makes sense. It does a lot of sense.

On top of that, you have this like, you have this picture even in like Revelations, you know, Jesus is the lamb of heaven. We go, we cr we cast our crowns in front of him. He's obviously not just a good person. Like, when's the last time you like got out of your street, bowed low, and cast your clothes in front of someone? Like, it's weird. Like, you wouldn't cast your crowns in front of just a good person. The the lamb, the revelation, this is in Revelation 5:8. The lamb receives the same doxology that God does before him. Blessing and honor and glory and power. Well, that was ascribed to Yahweh. And the lamb receives the same doxology. The lamb is Jesus. There's too many connection points for us to not know that biblically Jesus is obviously God. Mhm.

Um, so let's just go through some of them. We'll go through exhibits and then, uh, we can talk about whatever you want to. Does that make sense? Sounds great.

Um, do you remember when, um, all the times Jesus would walk around and say something and they would immediately try to stone him to death? Mhm. So, when, for example, in, um, John 8:58, he says, "I am," and they try to stone him. Mhm. It would be a mistake to assume that the people who lived with him, walked with him, understood the context of what Jesus was saying. They understood the language better than you do. They understood the context of what he was saying. They understood where he was going. Those people who were intimately familiar with Jesus's, uh, dialect, language patterns, statements, they interpreted what he said as him claiming to be God. So, what makes us think in 2025 we're like, "Nope, they misunderstood. I understand." It's silliness. They died for not being willing to re-take that statement back. It's silliness.

So, we'll start here. Um, claims. Let's talk about the claims that Jesus made. In John 8:58, Jesus said, "I give you this eternal truth. I have existed long before Abraham was born, for I am." They immediately picked up stones. They called blasphemy against him and they, they tried to kill him. So, if, if it was a soft metaphor, they probably wouldn't have tried to kill him for it. If it was just like, could be, they wouldn't have tried to kill him. They tried to murder him because they, they used the law of Moses to be like, "This is blasphemous." It's interesting they're using the law of Moses because he called himself the same name that God called himself while talking to Moses. So, the, the burning bush in Exodus 3:14, he says, "I am who I am." And Jesus uses the same term. It's the Greek word *ego eimi*. It's the same exact phrase that you would have found. That's why they immediately were like, "We're going to kill him." They connected it back.

In John 10:30, Jesus says, "The Father and I are one. I and the Father are one." If you study the Greek word on this, it literally means like the essence and the identity are one. It's not just like, I am in sort of God's peripheral court. He's like, the identity of God the Father and the identity of myself are one identity. That, that was the word. It's explicit. John 14:9, he says, "The one who has seen me has seen the Father." Dude, how many angels in history have made this claim? Not one. Zero. No prophet makes this claim. No angel. Prophets point people to God. And Jesus showed up and says, "I'm presenting God to you right now. You're looking at him. That, that's who I am." So, he's, this is a statement where Jesus is demanding intellectually equal honor with Father God. Mhm. There's no way around this. Like, you can't read that and be like, "No, he didn't really mean that." No, he literally said, "I'm, if you've seen me, you've seen God." This is crazy. You can't take Christ consciousness from this.

In Mark 2:5-7, Jesus puts himself on the level of the offended deity who this person has sinned against. You can't forgive someone who has offended you without being the person that that was offended, who he forgives this person's sins. The really super smart, intelligent people who read all the Torah were like, "How can you, who can forgive sins, except for God?" And Jesus is like, "Great question. You're on to something. You figured it out." He says, "I'm the Lord of the Sabbath." This was offensive as well. They ran back and tattled on him. They're so mad. They just ran home and tattled on him because they're like, "The Sabbath was created as a t, as as a commandments, the Ten Commandments." And Jesus is saying like, "I'm the one who wrote those." M. It's, it's explicit.

In Mark 14:33 and John 9:38, people worship Jesus and he receives it. So, the dude, this, you know, the kids are worshiping and he's like, "Yeah, go for it." There's no way you can read the New Testament and think that Jesus did not put a claim on him being God. Colossians 1:15, "All things are created by him." Okay. Well, in the beginning, who created the heavens and the earth? God. God. So, Colossians is like, "All things are created by him, through him, and for him, and he holds all things together." Now, we're getting out of the Gospels because there's, what, what they'll say when they're pushing this Christ consciousness thing is that Jesus never, only his apostles said this, but that's not true. We just went through a bunch of stuff where Jesus took the claim of God, but then all the supporting material around the, the Gospels, which, by the way, there's more empirical connection points to the entire New Testament than any book in history. So, if, if the Gospel, if the New Testament wasn't legitimate, you can't learn about Alexander the Great either. You can't learn about any of them. There's more historical proof for the New Testament than any of them. It's, it's crazy.

Um, and we won't go into that today, but the New Testament, all of it is supported through literature, history. They're using names of people that we know historically only existed when they were alive. Um, there is archaeological evidence and there are great books that support this, but you have to know like the deeper you go into this, you, you won't be able to get out of it. I'm warning you ahead of time, like, if you want to study the validity of the Gospel, you'll never come out of it because there's too much proof. You'll end up either being like, "I'm in and rocking with Jesus," or you'll have to stop reading because you don't want to rock with Jesus. It's, it's like reading about the, the American Revolution. Like, there, nobody doubts that. Nobody doubts that Genghis Khan, you know, like, there's too much proof. But there's triple, quadruple, 10x the amount of substantiation for the New Testament than anything we have on Genghis Khan or anything we have on Alexander the Great. So, go for it. Like, go study it. In fact, a lot of prominent Christians who converted from atheism, they started studying the Gospel to disprove it so that they could be certain that that their worldview was correct, and then they converted into like following Jesus. Mhm.

You know, um, he claims to be the Son of God, seated at the right hand, which is, if you read Daniel 7, this was predicted. So, Jesus is doing this impossible job where he's making statements that prove that he is God, that also are worded in such a way that validates things written 2,000, 3,000 years before him. And so it gets even crazier when you go through, uh, the Old Testament and you read things like Zechariah 12:10, where Zechariah 12:10, he writes, "And I will pour out on the house of David a spirit of grace, so that when they look on me, on whom they have pierced." Well, this is Zechariah writing on behalf of Yahweh. Who did they pierce? Jesus. And Yahweh is giving a prophetic utterance of like, "They're going to pierce me." So, not only does Jesus say that he is God, but God says that Jesus is God. M. They're both saying the same thing.

You go into Isaiah 7:15. "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Do you know what Immanuel means? God with us. God with, not perfect prophet, with us. I know it's hard, but we have to learn words. Words mean things, and the things they mean mean other things. And so we have to understand the words. It means God with us. It's crazy, dude. Isaiah 9:6, "For to us a child is born. His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God." Mighty God. This is actually the term *El Gibbor*, which was one of the names of Yahweh's personality. You have this infinite thing named God, and he's got so many different facets of his personality that the Israelites had to start naming specific personalities. He was what? Who is Jake? Oh, well, Jake's this, this, and this, and this. But who is God to you? We can't describe it. There's thousands and thousands and thousands of iterations to make up this understanding of who God is. So they're like, "We give up. We'll just name that one. This one's El Gibbor. This one's El Olam. This one's El. This one's Baal." And Baal, by the way, he, he was basically, remember this story in Hosea where he's like, "Stop calling me that because there's another thing called Baal, Ba'al, who's tricking you into thinking that my relationship with you is like its relationship with you." So, there's all these names of God that they had to study and learn because God was so big that to understand him, you had to know his names. But this is what, uh, Isaiah is saying. "This child will be born to us, and we will call him El Gibbor, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." And then Jesus calls himself all of the same names, which ties it back in.

So, there's too much proof when you get down into the subject matter. It's kind of one of those things where you have to either, um, accept, and there are implications to this that we can talk about. You have to accept that Jesus is God, or you have to accept no part of him. Cuz intellectually, if you choose to reject the idea that Jesus was God, let's just go down a mental experiment, can we? M. If, if you take the premise that Jesus was just a good person, he was just the perfect example of enlightenment. Can you be the perfect version of enlightened human and be a rampant liar? No. Why not? Cuz they're polar opposites. Okay. So, if Jesus was just a good human, he was also a liar because he called himself God all the time. So, if you strip the deity from him, it's so stupid. He's not even the example of what you say he is in the first place. Yeah. He's the perfect example for us to be. Well, you're a crackpot liar. Then, if that's who you want to be, is just a consistent, cyclical liar, it breaks the whole thing. So, either Jesus is a liar, or he's God. That's all you have. And either he's the perfect example that you say is in everybody, or he is God. There is no in between. Which, if you, if you want to like, give, uh, intellectual credit where credit is due, and this is like a weird statement, but you, when you study, like, not Messianic Jewish beliefs, but true Jewish beliefs, they have come to the same conclusion, which is he wasn't even a good person because they're unwilling to believe that he was God. Like, he's not even a good person, which would be the correct intellectual landing place if you don't accept that he's God. Because if he's not God, the dude is a liar. And so we don't want to model him or honor him or talk about him. So, Christ consciousness people don't even make any sense. They, they destroy their own intellect. He'd be worse than any of the prophets had ever come. He'd be the worst. Even according to the Quran, you're either God, or you are the worst. There's no room in between. There's no nuance to discuss because it's not like a simple claim. It's not like, it's not like, you know, "You should sleep less." Well, we could be like, "Well, that's dumb." You know, "I think you're dumb," but that doesn't mean that you have the character of a, of a narcissistic, you know, criminal. But his claim was so intense. It was like, "I am that I am." "If you see me, you've seen God." "I will forgive you your sins because you sinned against me." Those claims are so intense that he either has to be all of it, or none of it. There's no room in between for him to just be a good example for us. Jeez. Wow. You good? Yeah. I think it's just, um, I've never heard it, never heard it put that way, but it makes perfect sense. It's true. Pulls back a lie that's got a lot of people in its grip. And it's, it really, it really is that simple. It's, it's pretty simple.

Even his name, uh, disqualifies him from being anything less. He, Christ means the Anointed One. Mhm. And so it's like, if you study anointing at all, like, if, and this is where this is where we'll sort of rest here. We'll probably land a plane on, on the spiritual implications of this, if that's okay. Yeah. But if you, if you've ever studied anointing, you know that God's anointing will not consume or wrap around somebody who is breaking covenant. Uh, yeah, it doesn't work that way. So, there are certain levels of power that you only get through purity and consecration, which is why we're instructed to do this. But like, you can't be the Anointed One and then lie about who you are, right? Um, it doesn't work. And, and, and what it comes down to is like, these people, I don't think that there are like Alice Bailey's. I don't think that they're evil. I don't think that they are trying to like confuse and pollute the masses. I think that they don't have an understanding of the spiritual rules in the spiritual world. And so they're kind of being taken for something that feels good in the moment. But if you don't have an understanding of the spirit and how it works there, then you can't see far enough to do any of this, of this work.

So, let's back door into that for just a second. Yeah. You said you were going to talk about altars, and we'll, we'll cover that real fast because if you're still not convinced, then this is kind of the crux of it from the spiritual worldview. Um, inside of, inside of history, human history, you have altars, blood sacrifices, covenants. Um, how do you make a covenant? You cut. Covenants are cut. So, people would cut a covenant. They would sacrifice something. There would be blood involved somehow. Um, when you have Adam and Eve walking around the earth, they have a covenant with God and they have a, a job to do for God. And what Satan does is he replaces that covenant with a different covenant before Adam and Eve. Um, and this is where we're going to get off and like, this is hard to find in scripture. You have to read, you have to read and pray about it and pray through with the Holy Spirit. So, if you're one of those people who like, you're brand new, you, um, shake in your faith, sort of, or you like, don't want anything to confuse you, then just stop watching. Cuz the last thing I want to do is to take you down a path where you are now uncertain about your salvation. Okay? That's not what I'm trying to do. But for those who've walked this for a while, I'll explain it to you how it works. You have Satan show up and he's trying to replace the covenant because there is something that Adam and Eve have that Satan does not have, and it's called dominion. Satan doesn't have it. He wants it, but it's been given to somebody else. And so what he does is he gets them to make a decision that breaks them out of their covenant with God, empowers a new covenant. Now, there was a cost with this covenant because no covenants work without sacrifice. You'll never find a covenant that does not have a sacrifice powering it at some level, ever. It's like with marriage. Um, yeah. But you sacrifice for a marriage. Mhm. And there's real sacrifices involved. And you can break the power of that covenant through other sacrifices as well. Mh. So, and it becomes one of those things like, if, if you don't sacrifice your flesh for the marriage, then you end up sacrificing the marriage for your flesh. Something's going to die. Correct. That's, well, there's always something that's going to, going to die. So, there's no death on earth and there's nothing like, there's, there's only a covenant between God and man. And so, Satan comes in and he tricks Eve and he gets them to act in a way that breaks and violates their covenant with God. Which, by the way, this is the same thing he does today. You study any of the spirits that are assigned to you, they're not trying to like stab you in your sleep with a, with a kitchen. They're not allowed to. They're not allowed to. But what they, the only thing they can do is they can, they can try to position you so that you break your covenant with God. You make a choice that breaks your covenant with God and replaces that covenant with God with a covenant with them. Essentially, this is how Baal works. This is how Molech works. This is how Python works. This is how Leviathan works. This is how Lilith works. They're all the same. They just literally are like, "All right, can I get this person? Can I get Jake? Can I put him into a position because I have credentials to, to bother him right now in this season of promotion? Can I put Jake into a position where he violates the covenant with God and sells out to something and therefore replaces his covenant with Yahweh with his, with a covenant with me." Which is, in some regards, why we need mercy because there's nothing in your life that that you're going to not have to repent for. Like, you're, you're even the good things I do, if my heart is in a place where it's pulling something from it that I shouldn't, I have to repent for it. So, all these are, I want to keep my covenant with God pure. Mhm.

So, what does he power this covenant with? Because he stripped the covenant, he, they had with God, and he replaced it with the covenant that gave him dominion on the earth. He powers it with death. This is when death becomes the anchor point for a new covenant. Because what did God say to Eve? "If you eat this fruit, you will surely die." Die. And we weren't ever going to die. But now you have humanity dying at a certain limit, and we're all dying. And so the covenant is getting stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger because these, you have two altars that are dueling. You, you have words, beliefs, and sacrifice. And when the word and the belief and the sacrifice are woven together, you have power in the spirit realm. Mhm. And so, if you have two warlocks and they're like fighting and stuff, which obviously, of course, they never do that in America, only in Africa, only in Harry Potter movies. Yeah, only there. But you know, they're one, one person sacrifices a, you know, an eagle, and one person sacrifices like a, a child or whatever. One is extremely outpowered. Mhm. Because the sacrifice of this is not worthy or equal to the sacrifice of this. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. So, like, we have covenants in America that are extremely strong because if you take millions of babies and you begin powering these altars, the Asteroth is just filled with power. That's abortion. And abortion has nothing to do with female rights. Nothing. If you take, um, racism, there's a God at the top of that thing that is feeding off of the sacrifice of oppression. This is not a political thing. It's like, it's a spiritual thing. Mhm. You go to these different places. I grew up in Memphis. I'm like, man, there's racism is in the air that you breathe sometimes. You can literally just feel it. It's an oppressive state. And so it started with the garden because he powered this original covenant. "I own the earth through the sacrifice of all of the people that were never supposed to die."

So, when you get up to the, to the crux of the story, when Jesus shows up and he is completing his mission, uh, anytime there's an altar that is powered, there are power levels to it. The goal is, you have to get above the sacrifice of the previous sacrifice to replace the covenant. M. What could be worth tens of millions of human deaths? What could be more powerful than that covenant? It's in the Old Testament foreshadowing. It always had to be a spotless, perfect lamb. It was never a blemished one. But the lamb is not a physical lamb. It's the lamb of heaven. It's the hero of heaven. It's the one that angels worship and talk to and get their orders from. It's not just a person. It's the lamb of heaven. That's the only thing that had the power factor to offset the, the covenant of the death of humans and humankind. So, in the spirit, if Jesus was not God, it would not have worked. None of it would have worked. Couldn't have come back. It wouldn't, we would have no power, no dominion, no authority. Miracles wouldn't happen. Like, there wouldn't have been any of it. Right?

So, so again, it puts us into this like, all of it or none of it. And so, if you understand, you can see in the spirit where, where different things take hold and begin to work. Jesus as a man did not have the power to undo the covenant that was made and the altar that was made in the garden. It required something so high that nothing ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever would be able to get above the blood of God. There's nothing as valuable. There's nothing as potent. Which is why we lean on the blood of God. You know, the church is starting to, but we don't talk enough about the blood of Jesus. We want to, they, people don't teach on it. You have the blood of Jesus. You have everything. The blood will talk. The blood will represent you. Uh, the blood is an entity. So, there are times in my life where I'm just like, I will say, "Look, God, I want to come into a new covenant where I only trust the blood of Jesus." And in my heart, I begin to look for the things that I'm looking at as replacements, counterfeits, and I just begin to strip them away. I am signing a power of attorney to the blood of Jesus because the blood speaks, and the blood represents me. And the blood is the crux of what overpowered the previous covenant. Which is why salvation can't be brokered. It can't be messed with. It can't be violated. M.

This is why there's no sin that you could commit that will actually, um, and then this is where I get into debates sometimes with people in the comments because they're like, "You can't sin and go to heaven." Well, you're case study number one that you can, cuz the person making that comment sinned this morning. Mhm. There are some Christians that believe you don't ever sin again after you get saved. I don't know how they call themselves Christians, but just honestly, linguistic gymnastics is what it is. Because what you're saying is that if you can sin, if you, if you, if you can sin and lose the benefits of salvation, now you can lose other things when you sin. Mhm. Like, you can come in, you can have other agreements and covenants and things. You don't want that. Like, it's, it's not like we, this is why Paul said, "Should we sin because grace?" No. Don't be dumb. You don't want to open up new doors. Jesus said, "I healed you. Now go stop sinning so that something worse doesn't come and try to get you." But the issue of salvation is settled. And if it's, if you have any other theology, it's a spitting in the face of the power of the blood of Jesus because you think that your, your decisions are more powerful and higher ranking than the blood that literally covers your decisions. It's pride. Anyone who thinks that you can't go to heaven unless you don't sin, you're the most prideful person. You think you're more powerful than God, which then becomes a sin. Mhm. And you will still go to heaven, which is proving my point. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.

So, in the spiritual realm, if you don't, if you don't have a, uh, if you want to read on it, like nothing would have worked and nothing would have changed unless Jesus was God. The only way that anything worked is if he was God. So, we've sort of tackled the history. We've gone through the biblical backgrounds, but then like full-on deep end into the spirit. Everything would be broken if he wasn't God. The