Arab Trader: He Shares The Exact Trading Strategy That Made Him Millions

So what happened was I actually did the funding, talented, yeah. I remember them, bro. I’ve done a funding talent, and then they passed it in a day. One trade, the second trade, I passed it in one trade, but I made 65k on US 30 floating, yeah, in a day.

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Welcome everyone to another Words of Wisdom podcast. We are back once again. We’re back in London actually, and we’re joined by the one and only.

Yes, yes. Um, so we’ll jump straight into it as always, and uh, like how we like to start, just to get to know a bit about you, your journey, uh, you know, how you got into where you are today.

Yes. So my name is Yarimi. I’m 24 years old from London. Uh, my parents migrated from Saudi Arabia where they used to live, and I’d worked there for 25 years to provide a better future for us. They decided to move to Europe, as all ethnic minorities do, come to Europe, in a school, job, degree, whatever, and yeah, stumbled across trading in, uh, in 2016 actually, but I never took action until like late 2019, 2020, early 2020. Um, and yeah, ever since then I’ve been trading. Trading, been trading properly for about three years now. I’ve always been aware of the markets, but properly three years I’ve been trading, and yeah, that’s pretty much a short introduction about myself, man.

Short introduction, yeah. Now obviously you have a platform called the Yardimi University, yeah, and you literally had a big event yesterday.

Yeah, right. I just saw some stories that you put up on the Instagram page, and it was a full house.

Yeah. How many people did you have?

Uh, 300 people.

Wow.

Yeah, 100 people, uh, free event, and we do this every month, and we don’t we don’t charge a single penny. We don’t upsell, and there’s no catch. Yeah, and um, we’ll get into the the sort of nitty-gritty of the journey then. So I know that trading wasn’t like your sort of the first thing that you probably tried straight off the bat, as you said you knew of about it, but what was that journey like then? When you know, before trading, what were you doing? What was you getting up to before trading?

I was selling perfume at a perfume shop, getting paid 350 pounds because I was young, obviously that was the wage. Um, after that I had to leave because they didn’t let me go to Saudi Arabia to perform pilgrimage, so I just leave. Um, and then I tried to find another job. I was doing camera work at the time, so I was shooting videos for a lot of different people, different institutes, like um, some friends as well. Then I went to the UAE. I tried to get a camera job over there; didn’t really work out, so I came back, and I decided, you know what, I need like my life right now has no direction. I need to, it’s demanding more in terms of I need to become more. I’ve always had high aspirations; I just didn’t know what to do because um, from an Academia point of view, in school I did well. I was not interested in Academia, so it just led to me kind of just not really taking it seriously. Like, got kicked out of college twice. Went to university, got kicked out, went back in, dropped out. She’s trying to make my parents happy, but um, eventually I had to take a risk and show them that this is what I want to do, you know, trading, trading, trading. But before trading, like just like the average person growing up, I’ve always looked at things that were that I deemed to be treasure when in reality there were glitter, you know, like all these people advertising lifestyles, like pyramid schemes, um, uh, like sales jobs, and like I had I applied for jobs on Indeed. I said 500 pound a week. I went there, and there was nothing. I hadn’t got paid, been scammed a lot in the past before, um, and yeah, just I feel like that kind of molded me and shaped me into realizing that trading is what I want to do because I don’t have to speak to anybody. If I have a course, that’s different, obviously marketing, of course, selling a course that comes with it, but solely just trading, I love the idea of it because it’s like, correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s the only job in the world that doesn’t require you to speak to anybody or meet a single soul. It’s you, your phone, your laptop, the computer, just see you in the markets, and you can just extract money by analyzing data from candles, whatever it is, so it just appealed to me straight away, and I said, yeah, man, let’s do this. And naturally I’m just an impulsive person anyway, so whatever I do I’m like, it’s a bit scary sometimes because I’m like, do it now, face the consequences later, of course, but I just went, I dived into trading and locked myself away, came off social media, and I just grinded it out. I said I’m not coming back on social media, nobody’s seen it until I figure this stuff out.

Yeah, man. So it’s not that solitude, you know. I was actually saying it to someone, um, I think it was yesterday, um, and I was basically saying that most people when they find success is they take themselves away, you know, they take themselves away from everything, all the noise, and they just work on themselves, and then really those successful people come out later, you know, when it comes to social media or generally speaking about success or telling about their journey or what their plans are, the the right way of doing it is go away, do the work in solitude, and then come back after you’ve already started to achieve something or have achieved something. I mean, you could put lamb in the microwave for 30 seconds, like a local land for seven hours.

Yeah, 100. But yeah, for sure. I definitely, there’s the serenity and solitude, man. I like, there’s a greatness and isolation, and I feel like that really shaped me because bro, like I was really at a very low point at the time. Grabbed my hair, never went to the barbers. I was back testing every day, and at the time I was on, trying to find out what method is that I’m gonna trade, what works. I’m putting like 100 pound into an account, blowing it, 200, 500 into an account, blowing it, and I’ve got no money at the time, so I’m thinking how long can I do this for before I’m out, yeah, you know I’m trying to say. So yeah, that that journey there definitely shaped me into the person I am today.

Entertainment, because how did you manage that? Because you, you already know, did you know that you’re an impulsive person back then, or was that something you kind of learned after go by going through that person?

I already knew. Okay. But the dangerous thing with trading is that you think you can apply your personal characteristics into the markets and not get humbled. So I’m ahead, coming into the markets, not knowing anything about risk management, having like 200 in account, waiting for NFP, you know what I’m trying to say, just full margin.

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I was caught in that sort of habit, like um, not just news. I I never really traded news, but it’ll be one, two times where I needed money, yeah, to myself, how can I make this kind of money quickly so I can pay off my debts, yeah, my house, what what can I do? So I said, cool, yeah, news is coming up, let me try and utilize news to quickly make this money so I can pay off my debts and stop the bailiffs from coming to my house. So yeah, that’s that’s that’s what I’ll do, and I I got humbled very quickly because I realized I can’t be impulsive in the markets, and you know one of the key um ways to achieve an edge in trading is to master your own psychology, self-mastery. So for me, I literally had to write down all of my bad habits aside from trading, just as a person. For example, I don’t like waiting in queues. I don’t like being on the phone for too long. I’ve been, you know what I’m trying to say, yeah. I don’t um, if I’m hungry, for example, my food’s taking long, I get hungry, not angry, but I’m laughing, how long is it going to take? Like, I’ll get a bit agitated, yeah, frustrated, my lies a few taken long. Um, I’m very impulsive, so if I see I’m, it’s good, it’s good to have uh, being impulsive in terms of calculate impulsiveness, if that’s yeah, if that’s a term. So if I if I have an idea, I’ll just do it. Like, I won’t sleep on an idea. I’ll just do it straight away. It’s ready to execute, yeah, ready to execute, and that I feel like that was detrimental to the early stages of my trading career because I felt like I can just be me in the markets without having to pay a price. So then obviously having to learn that the hard way, and uh, you know, you mentioned about the bailiffs and being having debts because that was something that resonates with me because I was in a similar position when I was trying and trying and trying. Was it something that you rectified first in terms of clearing those debts and so building that financial foundation?

Yeah. So literally any money I would make, I would try my best to clear the debt, but the debt was a lot, and what I was making and trading at the time, it wasn’t enough to even include that, for example, it’s like, and told wells in about 12K, that at that time, at that time, and it’s not like I was taking loans. It was just a lot of things building up, for example, like things that I was meant to pay off, but because I didn’t pay, it was an extra cost. It adds up, and I keep adding more and more onto it, but for me it’s like I can’t I can’t do this anymore type of thing, and it’s like at the time I was so locked in on trading, but the debts were piling up so much, like probably literally whilst I was trading, I had to get a job mopping floors, cleaning toilets for five pound an hour cash, just so I can deposit it into my live account and start trading whilst having these debts. So for me, I never had pride or ego to work in her a job like cleaning, etc., because for me it’s like it’s a form of humility, you know, it’s a it’s a real job. People work these jobs; it’s normal. There’s nothing wrong with being a cleanup. Most of our families, our mums, or from especially coming from ethnic minorities, you know, their cleaners by nature, you know, maintaining a household, etc. So for me it was like if this is what I’ve got to do, it’s only going to make my story, and if I really believe in what I’m doing, just trade them. I don’t care what it is, like you can tell me to polish your shoes if that’s a job that’s going to feed my family, I’ll make it happen.

So yeah, in terms of that, obviously that’s immense self-belief, you know, believing in your vision. How did you sort of in that moment trust in that vision? What was it that sort of compelled you to keep going?

Um, I feel like just my mindset in general. I’ve always I’ve always had a very resilient mindset with anything that I do. Anything that I do, I have full conviction; I’m gonna get it done. However, I’m not unreasonable. If I know that I don’t have the skill to do it, I’ll obviously be very realistic of myself. However, there’s another side to me that will figure, I’ll figure out how to do it. If I can’t figure out how to do it, I’ll get someone that’s educated and I feel to sit me down and educate me, because there’s two types of people that will never learn: they’re shy and arrogant. And for me it’s like I’d like to believe that I was never arrogant, and I’d like to believe that I was never shy because from a younger age I’ve always been outgoing. I can speak to people, or so I feel like that’s what’s also helped me in my journey, just not being shy to kind of speak to people and just ask questions and learn. I feel like especially in the trading industry, when a lot of people make money, they feel like, yeah, that’s it, no can chat to me, no one can speak to me, I’m this guy, bro. Knowledge is like the ocean; it’s vast. There’s no end to it. Yeah, you think just because you’ve got a strategy unlocked and you found your edge that you could no one can tell you anything. See, I’m not saying he was all born, came out of our mother’s wombs not knowing anything, so there’s a there’s somebody, there’s if you think you’re the wisest, there’s somebody wiser than you.

Yeah, yeah, no 100. And uh, at the end of the day, to get through those hard times, if you don’t believe in yourself, if you don’t try and be a sponge to soak up experience, knowledge, and actually go seek it, because a lot of people they just sit and wait, you know, they’re they’re not active enough, they’re too inactive, and they maybe let fear, maybe let circumstance, or just their mindset generally in not knowing that you have to take action hold them back. So with yourself, obviously you’ve taken action, you’ve uh experienced these down moments, the impulsiveness, and learning that you have to sort of mentor the market, mold to the market. So what did that journey look like then in terms of getting from that point to, you know, seeing consistency?

Um, I feel like I hit a brick wall. Like, I really really hit a wall. I was very very depressed. Like, I went through some proper depression. Like, I was very depressed, um, more so at the fact that I can’t settle for a job because that’s just I feel like that’s not how I’m wired to do. Some people, we need people that work jobs, doctors, lawyers, engineers, people that can make the society a better place, you know, and elevate society. But for me, when I went to university, I studied marketing until I asked my teacher a question, and she had to Google it.

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You know what I’m trying to say. So I said to myself, I can learn all this stuff online. I’m like, why am I here? And at that time I was very depressed because it’s like I dropped out of university, didn’t know what I was going to do, you know, I’ve seen people your age sort of move on in life, succeed, like do well financially, land degree jobs, get married, have kids, etc., whatever it may be, um, and then you just being in a bubble where you’re living in your family’s house, you’ve got nothing to your name, you’re trying to figure a way out, but it’s like it almost seems that there’s no light at the end of the tunnel, and that’s the situation that I was in. Like, I was literally, bro, like I never used to wear glasses. I put glasses in my pocket now, but only because they’re blue light glasses. Okay, like I had to start wearing glasses because of all the hours I was putting in back testing. My mom would bring me food upstairs and say, what’s wrong with you? Why haven’t you eaten? This stuff’s taking over your life. Like, I have people closest to me, I’m not going to mention, saying to me, why are you trading? Just give up. This stuff doesn’t work. Like, just stop doing this. Like people telling me you’re gonna end up cleaning people’s shoes for a living, and all the stuff I used as fuel, and this is why I say like you have to have a resilient mindset in life because not everyone’s gonna see your dream the same way you see your dream. They might have a macro lens whilst you have a wide lens. You can see the bigger picture. You can see, you know, where exactly you’re going to end up if you carry on on this path. They won’t relate because their mindset might be totally different. They might want to settle for a 9-to-5, but there’s nothing wrong with that, like I said, but if you’re somebody who wants more, then you can’t take in those words from people who don’t have the same aspirations as you. So in that time I was in a very very low position, doing very bad mentally, and I noticed that starting to affect my trading, and I said to myself, like I can either do the correct thing, which is to take a break, but at the same time I know myself, it’s like Jim, if one day you miss Jim, at least the two, domino effect, three, four, five, thanks to me. You got that bot again, yeah. But I said to myself, if I take a break now, although life is lowest, like I would wake up after prayer, go to a forest and sit in a forest and deep life. That’s how low I was. I was thinking, how am I gonna make it out with trading? How can I do this? Um, yeah, it was a very very self-reflective moment, and that’s why I’m grateful up until this day because every day I wake up now and I look outside my house, I’m thinking, look at the position I was in before compared to now. But yeah, the way I’m the way the way I found my edge, I won’t really like to call it consistency because as traders you have good days, you have bad days. If you’re keeping it real, like you have losing days sometimes, you have a losing week, you have a losing streak. So it all depends on how profitable we come out at the end of the month, and I feel like that’s a problem with trading because a lot of people, you know, come from a 9-to-5 background like myself, like I worked in a DHL warehouse as well. I left at lunchtime because I said I can’t be doing this. I’m a robot picking things up, putting it on a conveyor belt, and loads of people don’t last in warehouse jobs anyways, okay. But coming from that kind of background on to trade-in and you’re seeing like 5K flow in profit, a 1.5K floating profit in a day, 10K, whatever is it, whatever stage you’re at, yeah, you’re not content with that as if you’ve lived that life before, yeah, bro. You’ve just come from a warehouse, and you’re out here watching floating profits of 1.5K or 2K or 3K, close that profit, put it aside so that you don’t have to go to work for two, three months so you can just dedicate that time to trading and lock in, and if you make another another, you know, large sum of profits, do the same thing, put it aside so you can focus, and you want to basically limit every single um, every single factor that could be detrimental to your psychology, and a lot of it is what lack of money, which is why people go back into their jobs, then they miss London session, they miss New York session, yeah. So if you’ve if you’re in a position now where you’ve got somewhat knowledge and you’re seeing flowing profits, secure your profits, put it aside so that you can focus on trading, and you’ve got money there. So for me, um, I don’t understand why people act as if they’ve been making this type of money their whole life. The 9-to-5, you know, you’re getting paid end of the week or every two weeks or every month, why are you not coming into trading and not happy with your monthly wage in a day or whatever it may be? See, I’m trying to say, apply the only thing you should, in my opinion, that you should apply to the trading game is the 9-to-5 mindset when it comes to payday, yeah, because if you start seeing things for, okay, let me wait 30 days and see my results as opposed to let me wait two days, oh, losing streak, forget this. If you start waiting for your payout, you start waiting 30 days, or you start seeing things from a business point of view, from a percentage point of view, you will find an edge very very very quickly compared to if you were to just try and make flips or just look at as a day’s profit. So the moment you start treating trading like a business, you know, and you start seeing your losses as business expenses, that’s when trading will change for you, and that’s I can only speak for myself, that’s when it changed for me because I was never someone who cared about percentages. I used to have people say, oh, why are you, bro? I used to risk crazy amounts because I thought that was the correct way, you know what I’m trying to say, because what I used to watch are these videos of YouTubers flipping money, Philippines, and flipping, oh my God, let me try flip, go on. So at the moment I started seeing things for percentage growth and treating trading like a business, I started finding an edge. I wouldn’t say consistency, but I found an edge.

Yeah, and this trading is all about finding your edge. Definitely, definitely. And it’s a it goes to show obviously that the same blueprint, because obviously by now I’ve done many podcasts, you know, and for the majority of people who’ve got that consistency now, it’s the same sort of process, very different obviously of what they exactly experienced, but in terms of mindset wise, it always revolves back to the edge. It revolves back to thinking like a business, or improbabilities, or focusing on percentage rather than money. Um, so it’s an interesting sort of case study, if you will, like I’m collect I’m like back testing the psychology and myself, everyone’s similar. Yeah, everyone’s very very similar. Obviously everyone has little um, you know, unique points as well, and obviously it presents itself slightly differently, but usually revolves back to the same story in the end. And during those hard times, like when you said you went through that depression, was that due to the results or lack of in trading, or was it just generally life at that time?

Everything. Literally, that’s life, you know, precious from drop, just dropping out of university, family pressures, um, not wanting to get a job because I said I believe in being impulsive, all in on nothing, yeah, um, I’m just focusing on trading, uh, you know, trading losses, everything, yeah. It’s all about everything, yeah. And uh, how, you know, talking about dropping out, I know you mentioned that you got kicked out. What was that? Why was that?

Attendance. I just didn’t I did not care about I I didn’t this was not my path, even if it wasn’t trading, Academia was never going to be my path, which is why I’m surprised. Yeah, and I tried doing businesses and stuff, and you know, some failed due to lockdown and stuff, but yeah, like it just wasn’t me. It just wasn’t me. That’s it. So like how did you handle that with your family, for example, because I can imagine they wanted you down that route?

Yeah. So I told my mom, look, I’m dropping out, and obviously like she didn’t take it very well, you know, literally like you’re from Pakistan, I’m from Yemen, like ethnic culture, we have the same approach to university, yeah, you know what parents are going to do. Oh my God, what are you doing? There’s that this guy got a degree, this one’s gone ahead, but it’s like, you know, I’m trying to say like um, I showed the conviction to my mum, but she didn’t really understand it. I told my mom, look, give me one year, give me one year, and I’ll show you, I’ll prove it to you. Yeah, she didn’t really give me an option. She didn’t give me one year, but it’s like I had to just do it because I I tried twice. I went to university, I got, you know, good grades in my uh assignments and stuff, but it’s like I I know I can do and get a degree, but for me it’s like this is the crucial years of my life. Why am I going to waste three, four years? I’m 24 now, 18, 19, 20, 21. So 19, 20, 21, 22, 20, 22. What the university is three years, depends on your degree, but yeah, it’s three, four years, whatever it is, yeah. So if I’m spending three, four years, I would have been what, 22, 23 having graduated, but now alhamdulillah, like praise be to Allah, I’m 24 years old, and I’ve achieved every single goal of mine apart from one, which is to get married. Yeah, you see what I’m trying to say? Yeah. But if I went to uni, I would have had to start the entire process now, of course.

Yeah, yeah, that’s true. And like obviously, you know, that’s because you had that, well, you already understood and insightful enough into yourself, knowing that you didn’t have that passion. Um, I’m sure if you did have the passion with that same impulsive nature, you’d probably be, you know, going to every day, um, and you know, it’s not for everyone in terms of university, but it’s also not for everyone entrepreneurship, right? And I’m sure have you come across people…

Like that, oh, for sure. What's your journey? Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. And that's one thing I want to highlight as well, just because I'm saying it's not like I'm anti-uni, I'm very much pro-uni if it's your passion. Yeah, if you genuinely want to be there, bro, do it. Because at the end of the day, see, if Steve Harvey says—he says the problem with a lot of people is they try and follow their passion. This is why I kind of disagree with uni to some regard, for people are just there for no reason. Yeah, because then the problem of a lot of people is they feel like they should pursue their passion, when in reality they should pursue their gift. And your gift is what you should—and your gift is what you do that requires the least amount of effort. Um, it's the least amount of, like, you know, pushing yourself effortlessly. Normally, you just do something effortlessly, good at it; that's what you should be involved in. Definitely, that's what Steve Harvey says in an article, huge leaf outer. Um, and yeah, um, so in terms of university, if you know you genuinely have an interest for whatever topic you're studying, do it, man. If you want to be a doctor, that's amazing, go do that. And yeah, that's that's what I'll say in regards to university.

So I told my mom, I told her, "Look, man, give me a year trading. I'm I'm doing you, you're seeing me." I swear, bro, I was putting in 16 hours a day of, like, back testing, just watching different YouTubers, like, trading videos, analysis. And I got caught up in analysis paralysis, obviously, because it's like when you're consuming so much, so much different content on YouTube, yeah, you're trying to combine this and that, and that doesn't work. So I have to start from scratch, but it's it's the passion for trading that made me feel comfortable sitting in front of a screen just watching trading-related content for so long without feeling hungry. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's effortless, like you were just putting in that time, in comparison to like you going to university where you'd have to force yourself, and most of the time you didn't want to turn. Yeah, and I'm someone who's not really like—I can't sit somewhere for long. I've taken information, yeah, but when it came to trading, bro, like when it came to trading, I feel like I've unlocked like a new studious me, because it's like, why do I like sitting down, learning, taking notes, all of a sudden? Yeah, and it was it was amazing to see that. It's a bit of a strain; it was a bit like surprising, yeah, very surprising, very surprising. Yeah, but it was good, it was good. I loved it.

No, it's good to hear. And you mentioned earlier about, you know, you've ticked off all your goals except for one. Yeah, um, but I think—sorry, just to not sound like I've done everything—I've ticked off all of my goals for that period, of that period of time. So yeah, my my early 20s, for example, yeah, because that's what I was going to say actually. I was going to say like if you have, you know, take those goals off, yeah, and you're still in your early 20s to a degree, like what's next? Like how do you motivate yourself or plan for the next phase? Then, okay, the next phase for—like the next phase for me is longevity, because a lot of people come and go. You see a lot of people, then they fade. Yeah. So for me, it's like I'm trying to put together an infrastructure where myself, my trading, and Urim University as well, can be known for longevity. You know what I can say? Yeah, like I'm a Messi fan. People like Cristiano Ronaldo because of his longevity, of course. Yeah, but technically I think Messi's a way clear of Ronaldo, but I give—when I give Ronaldo props for his longevity, players like Luka Modric, if you guys watch football, people give them props for the technicals and their longevity. So I want Irene University, myself as well, to have the quality in my trading, but at the same time the longevity, definitely. Yeah, so that's that's the long-term plans. Then, long-term plans, obviously moving abroad as well. Um, I'm trying to move abroad, just get married, settle down, just live, live a comfortable life, you know, nothing too lavish, just being content with those people around the world who are on far worse situations than us. If you look at Syria, Turkey right now, there's people buried under rubble, and I'm talking about, you know, price for tracing and collection entries. Obviously, it's your job, you have to provide for your family, by the same time, like use trading to help people around the world. Definitely. Yeah, so like that philanthropy as well, yeah, is in the vision.

And you mentioned about moving abroad, there; do you have anywhere in mind already? Yeah, Dubai. But even before trading, like I've always wanted to move to Dubai, always. It's always been my dream from young. I went there with my family like twice. Um, it has always been my dream to move to Dubai. So after I started making profits, I said to myself, yeah, now I can make this dream a reality, of course. And it's like I have—I've gone there quite a lot with my friends on holiday as well. So it's like it's just—it just confirms, it just reaffirms the fact that this is where I want to be. Nice weather, good food, um, amazing activities. You can just tell yourself, look, man, I want to wake up today and jump on a hot air balloon, just for the sake of being bored, go jet skiing, whatever it is. Yeah, zero tax, the network and opportunities are ridiculous. Yeah, bro, everybody's there. Yeah, everybody is there; they're very open compared to London. What I've found as well is that, you know, people are very much—they want to stay in their lane, or very—and rightfully so in one way—like cautious, or don't really want to be open. Yeah, but over there it's like so easy. Yes, very, very easy. Because it's like everybody that's in Dubai has one common goal, yeah, which is to make out okay, or if you're in Dubai already doing well, I think, to take your business to the next level. Yeah, so everybody's trying to network. Anyway, of course, they're going to come across, you know, relationships that aren't genuine. Yeah, but at the same time it's like you have to use your own psychology to realize, okay, you know what, I can sense this from this person, let me keep our arms limp. And I think, yeah, but on the other hand, like it's it's amazing because it's a it's a hub where everybody goes to—everybody with similar mindset to you is there. Yeah, every entrepreneur is there, well, majority of entrepreneurs are there, and um, you can just walk into this—like I'm I'm on a—I'm on the beach and I'm stumbling into Kaka, Brazilian legend footballer. I mean, I mean I'm in—I'm in a water park and we're stumbling across Aubameyang; we're chatting to Aubameyang from Arsenal. I mean, um, the gym, and I'm stumbling across this actor. I'm in a gym; I stand across that PT. Yeah, you know what I'm trying to say? Like it's very—it's amazing because you're bumping into people that you would not expect to bump into. A walk-in, you see football—it's amazing because it's like I feel like Dubai is one of the only places where everybody will give you a conversation because they don't know what your status is. Yeah, yeah. You can be in a in a plain white T-shirt, and people give your—people will give you a conversation because like if you're here you're doing well. If you look—not if you don't have to look the part, but if you're here and you've got the confidence to approach someone like that, automatically they're thinking, you know what, let me not even judge this guy because he can probably buy me.

Yeah, I mean, and even like there's some restaurants that I've—I've heard my friends tell me stories of—apparently there's a restaurant there where it's so like upper echelon, is so bougie, whatever it is, um, to the point where they only let you in if you've got like an expensive car and you've got like an expensive watch. One surprise. So this guy pulls up—now I think he's in a—I think he's in a Lamborghini, Montessori or whatever it is. Yeah, he's in a Lamborghini; he pulls up, that he's trying to get out of the car to go in a restaurant; they deny him access. He's denied; he can't walk in. [Music] Why can't I come in? And they said to him, "Your number plate doesn't have two digits." So they have levels over there. Yeah, you're thinking you've unlocked every level of life, you'll get a humble, because you're—normally that's it. Yeah, so it's interesting. Well, that's one thing Dubai teaches you as well is that there are levels, you know, like here, you know, a lot of people come to Mayfair, and then they're looking for the cars, and they're getting excited about that, but then over there, as you say, like the cars are kind of nothing at that point. Now it's a different level, which you wouldn't even think of, which is the number plate of the car, you know, and there's probably a level above that that we don't even know here, like a G-wagon over there is a Prius. Yeah, but it's good. You know, some people look at that and they'll think, you know, it's uh it's it's too much, you know, we don't need this, it's just not important, and uh it shouldn't hold any weight, but then equally it's it's broadening your horizon, you know, and it's trying to be around—it's as I say, your network is your net worth, and it doesn't always have to be like literally people you know, it's literally your environment as well, and you know it's just like when we see here in the UK, for example, when you're brought up in, you know, deprived areas, and your environment is poverty, or environment is um even crime or whatever it may be, that's why people get influenced in these ways. So when you then put yourself into—and you work hard to do it—into a situation, an environment of thriving nature and success and a hustle culture instead, it only will benefit you further.

Have you found that when you—obviously you've gone over there as well? Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Because Dubai just takes every box for me, like I mentioned previously, and it's like when I think of business, when I think of trading, no other place makes sense to me, because it also—it's not too far away from culture. Like if I want to pray in a mosque, there's a mosque going to record Fridays. And if I don't really want to be in the areas that are too touristy, yeah, I can go to the borders of Dubai, Sharjah, them sort of areas where I can go to like a gated community, a small, like, you know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, I should drive into wherever I want; you have that freedom. Yeah, like if you want to raise a family, especially, there are many, many places where you can have a thriving family that are built upon, you know, good morals, good principles, as opposed to making them grow up in JBR, for example, just by the beach, where they've seen every like, you know, where it's active, whereas, you know, translating. Yeah, yeah, it's less of that real life. Yeah, yeah. That's one thing people do say in terms of a negative, which I did feel because I was just there for about six weeks, so I just come back, and I did feel that way. It's like, it's nice, everything's great, but then a part of it is a bit um sort of man-made, if you will, like it's a bit artificial, official, and there's not a lot of nature. So even coming back to the UK and it's cold, you still—you're seeing those trees, you know, you've seen the fields, you're thinking, oh, this is—I missed this a little bit, you know, a little bit. Definitely, every time I come back I do miss the UK. Yeah, yeah. And that's one thing people struggle with though, I will say, is that obviously you have that goal to move there, and you're probably—as you say—impulsive person, you know, you're going to do it, um, but some people when I speak to them, they want to—they like the idea of it, and not just Dubai, but generally want to move, but they struggle because they say, "My family's here, they don't want to move," you know, and is that something that you've struggled with or sort of battled with?

Um, I wouldn't say I've struggled with it, but it's something I do think about if I moved it, because I've been Dubai many, many times, but it's like every time I'm there, it's like, can I do this for for a number of years, just being—not—I'll be alone, obviously, by then I'll be married or whatever, but can I do this being that far away from my family? But obviously with trading, you can just fly in. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's no limit on what you can do, like you can just fly in every two weeks, every month, and I'm gonna have to come back anyway because of my students, of course. Yeah, yes, of course. Well, you never know, people might try and follow you there. Yeah, yeah. That's what we found, like I did a meet-up there in Dubai, and I had more people attend that meet-up than the ones here, which are closer to home. Crazy, you know? And I think this is something about Dubai, especially for not just traders, but entrepreneurship as a whole, it's like this mystical oasis, you know, and it's uh an element of like fantasy and and uh obviously, you know, just good times that people probably feel more motivated to go there and go to a Meetup or just go there generally. Um, so yeah, yeah, there's no surprise, there's no surprise whatsoever. But in terms of your journey then, let's revert back then in your journey, you had those down moments, and you know what style of trading did you find that helped you, you know, uh—day trading? Day trading. So they traded—it's not a strategy—I've pretty much tried every strategories in the world. Yeah, you're just trying to find your feet and trading, but then I came across uh supply, demand, order blocks, whatever—supply, demand, order blocks—and just trading like liquidity. Yeah, that's that's what I came across, and I found that's what works best for me. And before I used to be a win-rate trader, but now I'm more focused on risk to reward. Yeah, and the moment I started applying risk reward to my strategy, everything just became—my psychology became better, because it's like what if I lose two trades, three trades, whoever—is I know that the next—the trade that does, you know, go for a runner is going to be the trade that makes back the losses plus profit. So it's like gives you that sense of um room to not panic; you can just chill out. Yeah, only if you follow your rules, of course. If you have your trading plan, your trading journal, and you have your rules, and you stick to—and you stay disciplined with that, then yeah, the rest of the reward for me is definitely one, definitely. Yeah, because there's something that sort of opened my eyes—I never really fought until I started learning that style of trading, like the order block, supply and demand—I never really thought about risk reward; I didn't put much weight on it at all. And there is an element where I feel like some people do get too fixated on risk reward, but it's definitely something that you should keep in mind, because at the end of the day, if you know—in terms of probabilities, in an edge—if your risk is lower on all your trades and your reward is higher, naturally it allows you even to lose more than you win. So like you said, obviously focusing on strike rate now, you can change that to focus, as you say, on risk rewards. So it's really good to hear. Now, when you first came across that strategy, because as you said you went through the others, when you first came across that strategy, did you have a sort of a moment where you struggled um with, you know, sort of, you know, the the the enticement, you know, like order blocks or supply demand, you know, like, "Oh, you can enter here."

Yeah, yeah, oh, absolutely. Because it's like if you were to look at any chart, you'll find so many supply and demand levels, so you're thinking, yeah, let's hit stop-loss, how many from here, from here, that is—it's printed everywhere. So for me it's like, okay, cool, why do I keep getting stopped out even though I'm trading this method? [Music] So I said to myself, there must be something more, until I realized, okay, cool, there's certain things that validate your supply and demand zone. Yeah, what are certain things that you should look for? Take a look at liquidity around it to potentially show you—obviously it's not going to be 100%, but you can you can, you know, um, try and have as many confluences as possible as to which supply and demand zone, which order block is the best to take the trade from. Yeah, being realistic, because sometimes you may see a huge impulse move to take place in the market, and an order block left very, very close to the impulse move; you take it from there. In reality, there's a cheaper price all the way above that you've missed out on, but the only reason you entered from the first one is because you didn't want to feel like missing out, formal. Yeah, you know, you you were too scared that you were going to miss the trade, you're going to miss the profits that everybody else is making. Yeah, everyone else is sending to a group chat, whatever it is, you know. So yeah, for me it was just being very realistic of with how the markets move and understanding the market cycles and understanding that the market has its own behavior. You know, sometimes if it's been moving all day, it's got to come a point where it starts to chill out and you know, consolidate or retrace or whatever it may be. And um, yeah, so like you have to understand how the market behaves—like it's gonna start accumulating or distributing before a move takes place, like it's gonna—it's gonna behave in a certain way, the candlesticks will move a certain way before something takes place. You will never 100% truly know what's going to happen, and what you can do is build your list of confluences for why you believe this will happen. Yeah, so you start to build that narrative, that story, story, and then you can still be wrong, but then the day you did your due diligence, your patient, you didn't just jump in.

Um, sure was that something that you struggled with in terms of, you know, that impulsive nature? Was there a time where you just jumped in? Uh, you kind of had to. Yeah, in the beginning, for sure. There was times I just jumped in, but I feel like the moment—so in my—after my first year—after my first year, the—like I started seeing results from trading, risk reward, supply and demand, order blocks, etc. So yeah, after my first year, that's when I started seeing reward, but in the first year it was—yeah, it was—it was bad. I'm very—very—I lost everything in my first year. It's not easy. No, it's not easy. It's not easy. And that was—that was—that was before I came across prop firms or anything, so I lost grants and grants and grants and grants of my own money that I was putting in, cleaning toilets, mopping floors, getting that cash, putting into a trading account, losing everything, until I came across risk reward, and I started journaling, and I started understanding why my psychology is the way it is because of my bad habits, writing down, "Why am I like this? You know, why am I being impatient on the markets? Why am I acting as if I make four or five grand a month for my day job?" Yeah, and you know, when I see four or five grand floating, I'm not trying to close it because I feel like—yeah, because it's trading, I'm treating it differently now, bro. It's real life; people have real-life issues they need to solve. If you're seeing that much profit floating, take it home, take that profit until you fix the situation where four or five grand can now become, you know, an average day. You can be grateful for that, just at the levels. Yeah, just the levels. Yeah, so move up a level. The problem is, we'll trade them—people see the possibilities and they want to go from here to here straight away, and it doesn't work like that, man. It's a journey; life is all about the journey. So yeah, I feel like after my first year was very, very bad, my second year is when I started seeing results. And you mentioned prop firms there, so you know, in that second year, did you still use sort of a personal—to begin with, like your personal account? Because it's a personal account, so I was just adding to my personal account. Okay. However, when I came across prop firms, I didn't really feel like I was smart enough, because I thought it required so much like—from trading—to pass a profit exam. So what happened was I actually did the Funding Talent. Yeah, I remember them, bro. I hate them. Well, I've done a Funding Talent, and then they passed it in a day—one trade, the second trade—I passed it in one trade, got the live account. Um, bro, I made 65k on US 30 floating, yeah, in a day. Furthermore, let me show you one second here, because I wanna—I really want to show you this Gmail. I asked for withdrawal from the 65—I was up 75k until an account, but just for that trade I was up 65k on US 30. Yeah.

Um, here we are. Uh, Funding Bush again, though. But for those who don't know, Funding Talent was a prop firm, and they were quite popular at one point, and I had my own story with them where I got max funded with them, and then the week after they decided to close down the the funding uh their funding uh sort of aspect branch of the of the prop firm, you know, literally. So it's a fun kind of support, withdrawal account number. Hi guys, I saw the email regarding the changes. I would like to request my first and final payout of 72,229. I would like to receive it in Bitcoin, and I'd like to ask where do I send my address to, and when can I send my payout? I was looking forward to working with you guys, but your new model doesn't fit my trading stuff. This is account number. Kind regards. And that was September 30th, so they pay me out 1,250 pounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they changed the model to like—72k was it five percent or something? And what they did was they said the latest withdrawal um date is this day, this time; not submit the way before. But because I submitted quite obviously a crazy amount, 72k, they were trying to brush that to the side, and they only replied to that after they closed. Yeah, but for them, I wasn't even annoyed that I'd be—like I was annoyed, but I didn't really take it to heart, because I was like, you know what, what this has done for me is like I can't put it into words, because it gave me so much fuel, and that's when I became like a beast in the markets, like I really became the best possible version of myself after that happened, because went with MFF, passed straight away, withdrawal, withdrawal, withdrawal, you know, and it's only three percent of people get to the withdrawal. So for me it was like, if that situation didn't happen, I don't know if I would have been—I pushed myself. Yeah, did you give me that fuel then to push yourself further? Yes, yes. Because it's like I held that trade for nine hours, and my friend said, "Yo, close to 50K." I said, "No, I believe in my analysis," you know. So I still had—I still had elements of—cool, I'm up 50k, I'm gonna wait for it to go to 80k, that's my overall TP, but once it took some liquidity, I said—it took 65k to trade—I took profit because I was like, let me not be unreasonable here, 65k in a day, never done that before, let me take it. But it's a shame that I wasn't able to get that payout from them at the same time. Yeah, so that's exactly what happened to me. I I just got max funded with them, and what I did was I passed 100k, and I was like, okay, and I did uh one payout, and I was like, okay, this uh they seemed legit. I had other students who were getting…

Big payouts as well. I was like, yes, it's legit, so let me get Max funded. So I spent a little bit of time getting the max funding. As soon as I got it, the week after, the same thing happened; they just changed the model, changed the whole company.

Exactly. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy, but that, you know, it was a reminder to me as well in terms of proper firms as a whole, like whether it's FTMO, MFF, whoever it is, they have in their rules that they can change their rules whenever they want, in every contract. Yeah. And will they do it? Probably not, but the reality is, and this is why, as you said about personal, yeah, it's so important, yeah, because at the end of the day, the prop firms can decide at any moment to shut down, change their model, or just say that you, we're not going to pay you out. You know, which uh, which is why like with your room University, I see people learn, apply, get funded. After you get funded and you get to that withdrawal, put that money in your personal account; essentially, you're putting it aside for a raise, there, for example.

Okay, cool. Regulation. Okay, I think FTML, they're regulated, right? Are they regulated? I'm not sure. I don't think any other problems are. Yeah, I'm not sure, um, but I heard something about FTML undergoing something. I'm not sure here, but um, this is why I say when you use the prop focus here, use it, utilize the prop firms, put that money into your own trading account and keep on doing that. Have it, treat your personal account like a pot, use the prop firms, use the capital they're giving you, trade, withdraw, put it in, withdraw, put it in. If you lose an account, no problem, take another challenge, pass it again, and do the start the same process again, and use your personal account to eventually, if you've got 50k in your personal account, 30k, 100k, 80k, whatever it may be, that's now a good amount to start with, because now you can see percentage growth on your personal account. Yeah, because if you've got a 30k account and you're risking one percent, what's that? 300 pound.

Mm-hmm. He was getting one percent, 300 pound. You catch a one to ten, for example, that's 3k. You catch a one to five, 1.5k, and that's, you know, that's more than some people don't realize. Yeah, people don't realize that. So once you start to grow your personal account to the point where you're content with what a one percent risk is, that's when you know, okay, cool, let me just trade my personal, yeah, no 100, and uh, you know, a lot, I feel like the prop firms have those benefits, of course, in terms of the funding, but then the negatives are is that everyone kind of just completely ignores the actual journey of a trader's to have that full control, you know, that freedom is that the though you have this prop firm account and though you know the rules and regulations, you're not free because you have these rules and regulations, whether they're stopping you from uh, holding a trade over the weekend, or whether they're stopping you from trading news, or whether um, you know, you have to take a profit split a certain day, or you have to do minimum trading, there are all these different rules, so you're not essentially free, even if you're funded, you're not free.

Yeah, that personal account, you're free. Yep. Because for me, it's like I like holding trades overnight. I can't do that if I'm on a prop firm because I would, the sort of lot sizes I'm trading within a one percent risk, it's like if that trade now retraces whilst I'm asleep, I violated my daily drawdown rules. Yeah, so I like to do it on my personal account.

Definitely, definitely. I just day trade on my prop firm account. Yeah, well, that's the thing, so like, is that something you do? You sort of treat the strategies differently depending on the? Yeah, because over like before I was more of like an intraday trader, and I feel like the only reason that changed was because I came across prop firms. Okay, yeah, so I, I still kind of entered like I'll hold trades on my personal account, but on my prop firm account, I'll just treat what it is for the day, in and out. Yeah, but to be honest, it's not even like I don't really get in and out a lot. I'll hold a trade for like me before I was, yeah, I was in Leicester at the days, yeah, yeah, the days STP, and that's it. Nice, perfect. Hit stop loss, then I'll just have my rules for the day, like how many percent, how much percent am I willing to risk on a date? Yeah, it's two percent for the whole, for the entire day that I'm out of trade to come back the next day and see if there's any opportunities in the market.

Yeah, so how did you sort of stick to that? Because a lot of people set those rules? Yeah, I'll be honest with you, losses, like I lost a lot of money, it forced me to have this method in in practice, because it's like if I don't have very strict risk management, at the end of the day, I know my personality, definitely going to start making up fake biases and you're, oh yeah, I can see this happening, so it's here, and this is why I'm um, taking profit over here, and this is why I'm gonna hold the trade for longer when we add it, you just want to make more money, so you're making up these, you're making up fake analysis, basically, make you feel better. Yeah, I'm trying to say, and it's like just justify these biases, yeah, like I'm moving stop loss to break even because of this, or whatever, and that's what I used to do until I heard Mark Douglas say that if a person moves their stop loss to break even, then they truly haven't accepted the risk. And people have different strategies, obviously, like we maybe stop loss to break even after price break structure, bro. I missed the problem with the trading industry because it's like everyone thinks there's one correct method, bro. You can trade retail, institution, or whatever, pro, if whatever method you're trading, if you you have correct risk management and you've got a trading plan, you can become successful with whatever it is. Okay, will you be as successful or as consistent? That's another conversation, but like someone might move the stop loss to break even and still be successful. Yeah, someone might not and still be successful; it all depends on the nature of the person. For me, I realize that, you know what, my psychology gets affected knowing that to break even price comes back just to tap my entry and it continues in my direction, I'm gonna be annoyed.

Yeah, yeah. So I rather just accept the risk and keep my stop loss where it is, yeah, because it's like if I know I'm annoyed that my stop loss got hit is because I I didn't risk correctly, because if I had a thousand pounds on a bank account or had a hundred pounds in my bank account and I lost one pound, I wouldn't be stressed because I got 99 pounds in my bank account left, so why is it not the same with my trading account? If my stop loss gets hit, an element of it is number one, disbelief in your own ability to trade, or number two, bad psychology, because you're trying to, you don't accept, you always want to be right, you don't want to accept the fact that you're wrong, and when you are wrong or when you feel like you're about to be wrong, you try and justify why you're about to be wrong by using fake analysis to pull out of a trade. Yeah, you haven't fully committed this off to the trade. I see, justify. Yeah, like commit to the trade, like set your trade and forget about it, just lock your phone, get about your day. People forget that this is what trading, this is the nature of trading. Trading is meant to allow you to live your life and not sit in front of a screen all day just preying on potential moves in the market. Yeah, the market's only going to move at certain times, the market's only going to move a certain amount of pips in a day, why are you chasing more if you've just made an amount that's that you're grateful for, that you're content for? Call it a day, call it a week, take a break, enjoy your profits, man, you know what I mean?

Definitely. And did you find that an element of trading, obviously, it has all this freedom, and as you said, you don't need to meet anyone, you don't have to, you know, have stock, for example, you could literally just do it from your phone, from your laptop, by yourself, you make all the decisions, so you have all this freedom, but do you feel like having all this freedom is probably a reason why people you just take 100 trades detrimental because it's like it desensitizes them to the value of money, because it doesn't come, obviously, the hard work. That's what trading is like football; you dedicate your entire life to trading, taking free kicks, taking shots, being on a diet, going to the gym, tracing training twice a day to them becoming a professional footballer, um, and trading is the same; you dedicate hours of back testing, learning and method trying to practice your psychology, being in a market, having down days, quitting, coming back, quitting, coming back, blowing accounts, coming back to finally gone after you finish the the journey of the cycle of a trader, you realize, okay, cool, I'm at a consistency curve, or I'm at the curve where I've found my edge, then a market starts rewarding you, but does it desensitize a lot of people? Of course it does, because they start, you just see numbers on the screen, they're not physically, if you had that cash in front of you and you saw how much floating profit you was in, yeah, you'd be very grateful because you've been seen it time and time again, you don't feel like it's real money until you actually close it, withdrawn, you're like, damn, that money actually came into my bank, yeah, crazy. So, and it's like what I think it was um, I can't remember who it was, if it was LeBron, uh, if it was Michael Jordan or um, Kobe Bryant, they said something like, so he knows you're saying, but he said, I trained the years and years and years of my life, oh yeah, just to run for what? Eight seconds, nine seconds.

Yeah, it's true, that it's true, and that nine seconds made him the most money ever. So do you think like you're training, so like with the football analogy or even with Usain Bolt, it's like you train, you have to do all these different technical aspects, so it's not just like I just learned to sprint, you know, you have to, you know, prepare and practice the the takeoff, you know, and then the actual sprint speed, and then you know, the the PO, you know, the the sort of uh, physicality of it, you know, making sure that the forms corrector optimizes speed, same like the football, you're not just going to learn how to shoot the ball, yeah, you have to learn how to get to that point where you can shoot the ball, you know, like the defense, the your cardiovascular, your diet, etc. So now we're trading, you've got the back testing, you've got all the, you know, reading the candles, learning a strategy, training plan. Do you feel it gets to a point though, once you've gone through that process of that learning and you know losses and experience that you have to strip it back, you know, and simplify and make it so that you have limitations now, because there's at the end of the day you can have all the freedom in the world to do what you want, but human nature being what it is, especially revolving around money, do you think it's actually maybe you can reflect on your own journey, was it something that by stripping back and putting these limitations in place, was that what helped you to excel?

Absolutely, because it's like before I used to place a trade every day, I used to get three, four positions in a day, in and out in an hour, or maybe yeah, um, I want to say getting in multiple positions, it's because like one hit stop loss, two hits stop loss, so I'm trying to justify that is another move, when in reality it's just me trying to make back the losses and revenge trading, um, so put in limitations definitely helped me out, because now it's like I'm very picky with where I enter, I'm looking for the best prices, I'm looking at, you know, what's furthest away from traffic [Music] um, and I'm not interested in areas that I believe a lot of people are entering the markets from, and yeah, I'm very, very picky with my entries, and I'm I don't really place as much trades, maybe I'm in another market, maybe three, four times a week, sometimes twice a week, but yeah, to let those positions run, and that's it. It's about being grateful as well, man. I feel like I can only speak for myself, um, because of like faith, my religion teaches me to be grateful, to be content, um, so for me it's like if I know I can't make this type of money anywhere else, and I know what this amount of money that I'm floating in profit right now can do for me, can do for my family, can do for my loved ones, I'm taking that profit, you know what I mean? I'm not trying to search for more and more and more, because as mankind, we're always going to want more anyway, so I feel like it's about having a good balance between um, knowing what you really want from trading, knowing what you want from life, and if you're up a good amount of profit, close it and do what it is you've had dreams of doing, for example, if you want to help your mum, like for example, refurbish your house, buy a car, invest somewhere, take your profit, do that, come back to the markets, use trading as a money-making vehicle to now invest in other opportunities that can generate you income aside, I don't use passive income, but yeah, diversify your portfolio basically, and use trading as a vehicle that's going to allow you to do that, to do so.

Definitely, definitely. And I think uh, what you mentioned about gratitude there, regardless of religion, I think it's people things that people do probably struggle with, because you said in the moment, like the reason, sorry, the reason why I mentioned religion because like I had the Wolf of Wall Street mentality, guys are losing trades, you're going to be sniffing cocaine in the toilet, getting frustrated, that's why I feel like for me, religion is what puts that gratitude in me, some people might be whoever else it may be, it could be somebody else.

Yeah, no 100, but it's true though, because a lot of people, I think trading as a whole could be a huge influence because people see that sort of lifestyle, you know, a lot of people can't promote that on social media, for example, but they see people who have the lifestyle similar to The Wolf of Wall Street, you know, The Wolf of Wall Street in a way did, you know, present a particular lifestyle that a lot of people then thought, oh, this is wow, this is crazy, I'll be able to do a private jet with a party, and you know, people then create this unrealistic expectation and they have the wrong mindset why they're trying to achieve something, um, and you know, religion to a degree does help you to sort of not avoid that, but give you a different path to choose from, direction, yeah, direction, um, but what I was trying to get is in terms of like the gratitude element, a lot of people, I think as you mentioned already that they have a nine to five and then maybe, maybe making like 1500 pound a month, so suddenly now they're seeing these different figures on the screen that is actually more than that in a way shorter time. I think in the industry as a whole, we do see a um, a lack of focus on the gratitude, you know, on the situation that you're in and the situation that you're creating or possibly being able to create through trading, and you know, you've taught a lot of people now, like have you found that in other people as well, and would you say maybe it's something that the the younger generation faced or just generally people face?

Yeah, I've definitely found out because sometimes in my Discord, I kind of have that um, realistic a mentorship approach, for example, the other day someone said um, uh, damn, I had a losing week, and I said to him literally, if you get paid 3k at your job, that means you make what uh, 750 a week, roughly, roughly 150 pound a day, something like anyways, I'm not too sure, um, if you clocked in Monday morning to your job and you made 150 pounds, are you gonna finish your shift saying that man, I only made 150 pounds today, or you finished that week and say, oh, this week was bad, I made 750. You wouldn't say that, why? Because you know the end of the month, 3k awaits you, why can't you apply that same mindset with traded after having a losing day, a losing week? All it takes is a few trades to bring you back to break even, and one or two trades set you in a good amount of profit. If you were to only think, how am I going to end this month, you would be so much more calm as a trader, because you're now thinking ahead, you have that delayed gratification instead of instant gratification, you see, and that's a problem with a lot of us, because we come from a job and now we're not grateful for the profits that we've seen on our screen because it's daily, like, and sometimes it's like because we're used to working Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, we now think we have to trade Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Yeah, yeah. So we've kind of just bring the same mentality over to trading, but we can't, we can't, you know, we have to do different and dive deeper than that, and I feel like a lot of people, and now we're starting to see a bit of a, a bit of a stronger narrative around that, but there's still a lot of people who have a lot of work to do, you know, and they, they need to dig deeper into themselves, like yourself, like you, you know, based on what you've said already in terms of how you reviewed your thought process, you know, you asked a lot of questions, why do you react in this way? Is that process you've always done, or was that something you started to implement trading?

Yeah, start trading made me implement that because before I would never self-reflect, I just think this is just my personality, it's how I am, I don't need to change, don't change for no one. I had to change for the market, of course. Yeah, that's good though, but like when you had that moment with um, funding talent, yeah, so obviously this is like going into that second year, going into that consistency, you've just had all that hardship and that depression, how did you then look at that scenario and say, okay, I can yeah, and use that as fuel because equally you've got to use the other side?

Yes, I was so low, bro, like I was so low in that moment, I've just been denied a 72k payout, I'm not gonna lie, I kind of, I kind of, I was annoyed for a bit, that I just laughed it off, and I said, watch this, it just woke up a beast inside me, and um, yeah, after that, gave about, I gave it about a month [Music], and I went up my Forex funds, passed, made a withdrawal, I was up 20k on year 13, like four hours gold, up 20k, and there was a moment where I literally, I was, I was seeing 10k floating profit every single day without fail, that was like, I was going, I was, I was on a very, very, very good streak, and you know, that the funding talent situation gave me so much fuel because I went into MFF, I went on to all these other prop firms um, with the mindset of, yeah, I'm gonna scale up and scale up and scale up, and it made me realize that one account isn't enough, it's not enough, because what if bad, bad losing streak happens, or the again, the same scenario, I'm sorry, you know.

Yeah, exactly. So obviously in your journey you use the problems, and uh, obviously that was a huge shift though, from being in debt and losing small accounts to now having larger payouts, how did you handle that? You know, um, I feel like it's good because I conditioned my mind, like I said, I was watching a lot of like traders on YouTube, like I was watching, not in terms of strategy, just in terms of like lifestyle, I was watching Swaggy C, I was watching Cube Banks, Lamborghinis, I was watching um, I like, I like Will's effects a lot, man, I feel like he's a young guy, he doesn't really get the credit that he deserves, but he's never been a flashy type of trader, he's always very real with his psychology, and I like, like is that less is more approach, less is more approach, um, very business approach he's got as well, um, I was consuming every single possible trading content out there, like some crazy guy, what's his name? I think his name Raphael or something, this guy's flowing like 1.5 mil gold, and he's like, oh, I'm about to blow this up, well, I don't, I don't know if some people are legit, I don't know.

Yeah, I can't speak for them, but it's like watching other traders floating profit, like seeing Q Banks make what? 250k in a day, 100k in a day, whatever it is, and seeing them guys, you know, Swaggy C, for me was like a mindset mentor, 100, and what if I, if I ever see him, like I'm gonna make it known and give him his flowers, man, because he really did change my life, he that guy changed my life, Swaggy C, that guy changed my life, um, and I used to watch Swaggy C when I had minus six pounds in my bank account, hmm, and now I've got a penthouse, McLaren, you know, I'm living the life that I used to watch them live, and it's thanks to all these people, like you know, even people that I listen to, Les Brown, Steve Harvey, you know, Eric Thomas, these people like I always condition my mind because it's like as human beings, we are told to have a five-a-day for our body, but what about the nourishment for our mind, the nutrition for our mind, and it's like not much importance is put on that, and that's why a lot of people deteriorate in terms of mental health because they wake up in the morning, they're probably waking up to a household, a broken home of people like arguing, shouting, or they're waking up to a home where it's like there's stresses about money, bills, so for me, I knew I had to really like educate my mind and listen to some stimulating um, content like personal development, um, Stephen Covey, the habits of highly effective people, I've listened to a lot of Jim Rohn, I was listening to a lot of John C Maxwell, and um, yeah, so going back, like a lot of, to answer your question, I was watching every single trader's content out there, just so I can see what awaits me, the life that awaits me.

Yeah, so you like prepping the mindset, prepping not only the mindset, but it's like seeing them in drawdown, seeing them in big profits, I already lived that, I lived that through them. Okay, so for me it's like, oh, minus this much in in drawdown, no problem, I've seen this before.

Hmm, so it wasn't like entirely new to you, it was only in one sense into a new to your, to your personal experience, yes, but you've witnessed this experience, brothers, and witnessed and heard from their experience how they handled it, or maybe even the maybe they even shared what they struggled with.

Yes, exactly. That's why for me, I'm a student of the game, like um, like I said, a lot of traders come on here arrogant, whatever, like, bro, I've learned from everyone, everyone, I've learned from everyone, obviously can't combine people's strategies, but when I say learn, I mean like I've taken a leap out of everyone's book, okay, um, like I said to you, like Swaggy C, Cube Banks, Astra at one point as well, um, uh, those guys, yeah, man, they're young, but they're my goals, you know, I'm trying to say like these big guys, Q Banks and all these people like I've learned a lot from these individuals. Yeah, and what traders never admit that someone's helped them?

Oh, 100, everyone's helped me, it's very important to I think do that uh, because at the end of the day, that's how the industry should be, I think there's too much toxic.

Toxic nature, and yeah, I understand that people might be essentially competition in the sensor of if you have a course or a brand or something. But at the end of the day, it really makes a little difference. And I feel like this, it's a—I always like to mention a statement—but it's like, it's a statement the Arabs say. They say, "Foreign, yeah," or, "My course is this, and his course is that, yeah." You don't really like—you don't have to sell yourself. People let—draw people towards you by being your authentic self. Exactly, you know what I'm trying to say?

And what's happening always, yeah. And you know, when it's legitimate, when it's real, it'll just naturally be what it needs to be. You know, it will rise, uh, naturally, and it will rise in an authentic manner. Yeah. Um, so I couldn't agree more. And like you said, it's definitely needed in terms of like shiny people. Because like what I was going to say to you is, how did you filter? Because I know a lot of people out there, you know, a lot of my audience might not know you yet, yeah. But there'll be a lot of your audience who might not know me, for example. I haven't really touched a YouTube scene in terms of, yeah, 2023. I'm loading up. That's it. That's it.

And, uh, no doubt that when you were looking at these people like Q Banks, like Swaggy C, you know, and I—I haven't, uh, spoken to Q personally, but I've spoken to Swaggy a few times. And you know, great guy, and really love what he does, yeah. And you know, great message. You know, he's always had the same message, regardless of lifestyle or growth; his message has always remained the same, and his story is very inspiring as well. Um, and so yeah, like, but when you look at these guys and you're maybe researching their content, uh, whether it's just motivational stuff, lifestyle stuff, or trading, you'll get these haters or these people who say like, "This guy's a scammer," "This person's that." So how did you filter that whilst you were going through that journey?

I'll be honest with you, for me, there's two sides to every story. I've been in situations where people make me think one side of me, but the close people to me only know the reality. Like a lot of people say, "Oh my God, this guy's got how many students?" They don't know I've actually given my course for free to over a thousand students. Like single moms get the course for free, you know, like people that can't afford it. Obviously not everybody, because at the end of the day, it's a business; a course is a business. But we—we accommodate for people. Like we understand. Like I come from a broken home—no, sorry, I come from a broken financial background—not broken—my mum and dad were around. I come from a very like bad financial background, so I understand life, I understand cost of living, etc. But at the same time, you don't want to put yourself in a scenario where you're blaming cost of living or not trying to start a business, of course, not trying to better yourself. Okay, we understand; okay, situation is bad. I was in that situation as well myself, but you gotta try, and you'll try your best to find a way out of it.

Um, so people won't know; people just see, yeah, "This person is selling a course, whatever," but they don't know—like my course is 499, one-time fee. It's a very affordable price; it's not too crazy, especially, you know, when it kind of figures people charge in the Forex industry, bro. Yeah, 499, one-time fee, no strings attached after that. You're in the 24-hour Discord group; your—your questions get answered straight away. Yeah, there's—there's a Discord, uh, trading questions tab; there is a general track where you can network with other students and speak generally. There's something that's called trading talks; you can come on Discord and put your video on your mic and revise like this with other students, yeah. You know, I do one-to-one calls included with that price. Obviously, the more it grows, the more the one-to-ones will become in small groups, etc., of course, because I can't do every single person; I'm only one man.

Um, um, I do random—like, for example, I also show it at random course every two days, sometimes every day or so, where I say I'm jumping on and I'm helping anybody. So you can see here, for example, this is yesterday. Congrats; these are funny students. One, two, three, four, six. I'll pay for six students funded exams, um, for example, here. This is my event, uh, let me just show you, for example, here. Um, here we are. I'll be on Zoom right now, helping anyone who has questions or stuck on the topic. Feel free to pop in, ask whatever you need help with. Yeah. Again, day before, I'll be on Zoom 10 minutes, helping anyone. Feel free to pop in. Day before, I'll be on Zoom later, every like every day, every two days I'm there, people. And that's why I feel like I'm trying to create the trust in the industry that has a very bad stigma. And when people see what—Discord, one-to-ones, mentorship, free monthly workshops every month where I can come and see you personally and speak to you, and you don't charge—no ticket, no—no fees for—no tickets. You don't upsell anything at the event. We're expecting like a little curveball at the end, a little catch. There's no catch. What's going on here? And that's what the 499 comes with, you know. So for me, that's always what I wanted to be. You can't be the best; we can be the best at being better. So I'm not here to say I'm the guy, "Come to me." So there's many goals like people like a guy called—I see—I've never studied from him personally, but I understand that people that I've studied from may have studied from him. So there's a guy called ICT, there's Men FX, for example, all these guys that like Q Banks, whatever. Like I get it, like these are the goats of the industry, for example, to some people. For me, I'm not trying to be a goat; I'm trying to do my thing, stay in my lane. I'm not trying to get involved in no drama, doing me, focusing on my students, and that's it, bro. That's it. Like you think there's a catch, whatever, then come take a look yourself. But this is how it works, isn't it?

The nature of the game is that you know, when you try to put yourself out there, because even like with yourself, you are on social media now. You're not like, you know, not like you're on there every single day, 24 hours a day, or anything, but you know, you've been on social media before the trading journey, you know. And knowing now that how old you are, that must have been—you must have been in your teenage years, yeah? Like 17, 18? Yeah. So like, how did you have that confidence? Because I know that when I was that age, I wanted to do stuff, um, but I just always let the fear of other people's opinions, you know, their thoughts of me, hold me back, so I stopped it for so long, yeah. You know, but you put yourself out there. Was it a little struggle there, or nah?

To be honest with you, when I was younger, I've always been used to the camera. I've always been in front of the camera, like video cameras to record myself doing nonsense from a young age, running around a nap. He's like, "My arm's got cassettes and stuff." But, um, yeah, like when I was young, I used to do music. Yes, I was always used to like stage; I used to perform and stuff and make music and release it, musical videos and stuff. Then I stopped doing that due to, um, a few things. But then, yeah, after that—oh yeah, I've always been—I've always been used to the camera, very like—I like to speak to people, outgoing. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is, yeah. Then in terms of like slowing that down and stopping that—not the—the music side, but generally the social media side, um, you know, was that a choice in terms of when you're doing that solitude?

Yeah, yeah. Because for me, it's like I've got all these followers, but I'm broke. Hmm, this doesn't make sense. And what was I like then? Because obviously everyone's perception, even now, even to this day, is, "You got followers, you must be real." No, the thing is—the thing with me is like my followers know I've always—you know, I've documented my entire journey. Like I'll go to the ATM on my Snapchat; my Instagram is be like, "Hey guys, look at my bank account, it's minus six pounds, but I swear, took what I'm gonna make it." I was sending clips of it after, yeah, yeah. Like my bank account, you know, me, what happened in my tapping my Oyster card and it's not working and the train—the train, uh, um, what they're called, train wardens, whatever they are, yeah, he's telling me, "If you ain't got money, just say, mate." I'm not saying, "Yeah, bro, I ain't got money," like, "Sorry, I gotta go do something," like it, then he lets me through, getting humbled. You know what I'm trying to say? Like I showed all of that on my Snapchat; you guys will see, like I'll put it up here. So that's why I say like you can't walk in on this chapter of my life and say, "Why is this guy living flashy?" Wise, I showed everybody my vision board; I was jotting down like my notes, and I told people, "Watch, I'm going to be successful; I'm gonna be here." Obviously success is what you deem it to be. Like I'm—I'm content with where I'm at; I wouldn't say I'm successful, but I'm content with where I'm at, you know.

Um, oh yeah, the followers thing is like I've always kept it genuine. I feel like that's why I've got such a strong bond with people that know me; I've been following me because I've kept it real, showed them my down days. I showed them time, so I was depressed and used to tell them, "Look, man, right now, that's what I'm going through, but if anyone's going through this, keep going, keep pushing, find something that gives you purpose and drive." And yeah, um, that's why you can't—like if somebody starts speaking on me, I know you haven't been around, yeah. Because if you've been around, you would have seen—upload every single day of me just trying to figure out life and branding out and showing people the reality that I'm broke now, but watch, I'm gonna show you guys that if you work every single day, you achieve your goals, and I've done it, to be honest with you, you know. And it's amazing to do, and I think that the documentation side—I feel like some people get trapped in trading nowadays where they're trying to, as we talked about, you know, do the solitude and then come back after in one sense. But I feel like nowadays most people whilst they're trying to learn and trying to add value to others, and that doesn't make sense. Like get the value then from your value, because yeah, exactly. Um, but in terms of documenting your journey, that's two different things; you're trying to provide value and then documenting your journey, so that later you can reflect and other people can then see too. Uh, I think that's a beautiful thing because I'd done that, uh, but then I lost this Instagram page, which is a long story, but, um, even then, it's such an incredible thing to be able to look back on and realize, uh, you know, "Here's that moment," "Here's that moment." And, um, you know, when you're going through that period, then you've got this following and, uh, the success. Because even though you'd stop the music, it was successful; you were very successful at it.

Um, based on that, there was—was that the first time you had sort of had something successful happen to you, you know, in term—whether it's entrepreneurship or generally? Is that the first sort of taste of some form of success? What exactly? Uh, like the growing of the followership and the music career and the way that was going—what a really cool—that success. But in terms of the following, it's not really, bro. I'm not famous; I've got 40K followers, 50K whatever maybe, uh, uh, but like it's a relative—yeah, it's relatively—people out there who are grafting, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, what I mean is though, because obviously, as you said, it's like—would we deem that success or not? What I mean is it's hard work, and there's the sort of result of that, yeah, of course. So after seeing that, yeah, maybe, "Okay, cool, this is my first taste at something going right," yeah. So was that something then you were able to apply to anything else that you were felt passionate about?

Yes, exactly. Because then you've seen, "Hey, if I work harder than I can," you know, "Here's a result at the end of it." Exactly right. Incredible, yeah, man. Yeah. Because then it must have been a hard choice then to be able to step away and—and focus on something else, or was it easy for you—trading? Very easy for me—no, not trading as in like focusing—people are going to take that out, yeah—as in like me leaving whatever it is, I'm focusing on trading. Yeah, I found it was—it was a smooth transition; it was a smooth transition. And I just developed passion for it very, very quickly. And yeah. And what was it in terms of like the teaching? What was the drive and sort of motivation behind that then? I didn't—I didn't have to drive a motivation to teach. The fact that I actually doubted myself—one of my—one of my very good friends actually told me, "You should," because I told my two little brothers—"Oh, nice," yeah. And then I funded—and whoever—like they do nothing; one of them is taking an exam, uh, I think he passed phase one right now. And my two little brothers, after teaching them, and, um, I kind of realized, "Okay, cool, if this works, and I tested it on my own family—no one can tell me anything because I've tried it with my family first. If I was putting anyone in a detrimental position, it would not be my family." Yeah, of course, you get it. So I've tested it on my family, and it worked. And I was in a bubble for a very long time because this—this another thing people think—"Oh yeah, courses," "Oh yeah, yeah, bro, my course started in like June, like whatever it was, yeah." I've been flowing profits of like 10K a day or like 5K a day or 20—and I have good days at 50K sometimes in a day, 40K, 30K, whatever it may be—since like November, October, sorry, October. So it's like from October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June. That's what—nine months of me making crazy profits by myself, then saying, "Okay, if I can do this consistently for nine months, let me—utilize a business and monetize my knowledge that I've got." Obviously everybody has a course. Like I said, I don't think Mark—if you—I'm not here to tell you my course is the best and I'm the best, whatever. But I know that my course is one of the best courses to take somebody from absolutely zero to hero, as I teach things like, "What's a pip?" "What is a candle?" You teach the basic, exactly. Then I'll take them through, for example, um, what the beginning—the beginner side of trading is and why we avoid certain things like entering early, different types of liquidity, etc., and then to the advanced stages of, you know. So it's like it's very hard to find a course they're going to teach you from the absolute basis. There's many—obviously there's many, but I mean, like, is very concise. One thing that people like about my courses, that's very short, it's very concise, it's very to the point. And then the real learning takes place when you go on Discord and you watch all of the Zoom calls that I've done, all the back—or whatever—not backlog, by order—Zoom sessions from the past, you watch that again, and then you come on the one-to-one—it's an e-common mentorship—and you come to the Live Events and you're able to ask in person and things like that of that nature. So yeah, like, of course, course money is amazing; it's a business at the end of the day. You know, if somebody was doing maths tuition, you would pay the guy to teach you maths, so why only going to pay a guy to teach you how to trade, you know?

Um, and it's like people say, "Oh yeah, but, uh, a lot of Traders make course money," that it's like—it's like me saying to you, you know, "If personal trainers are in shape, why do they charge to be in shape? Why do they charge you for you to get a dream body of yours?" You know, uh, people say, "Yeah, it's different," but that's not money making, but that's like me saying to you, "Okay, cool, if that's not the same, then why can't they just get about the day, get about their life? They're in shape, that's it; be in shape for yourself, yeah; don't teach someone how to be in shape." So it's like, but they say, "Oh yeah, just make money for yourself, don't teach people how to make money." That's essentially what you're saying, but you don't want to say it because you look like a hater. But yeah, course money is amazing; it's a business at the end of the day. We've got a market. If—if this is my life, or I'm on holiday, if this is my actual car, this is my house, I would obviously snap whatever I'm doing, even the same way I was snapping when I was broke, showing my bank account on 96 pounds, in the same way I was showing me that—pressed me, struggling me, not even having money to get a haircut. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, if this is my life now and I'm snapping it, you just walked in on this chapter, you're going to think, "Why is the guy flashing a lifestyle?" Yeah, in reality, it's just—it's just my life now. You know what I'm trying to say?

No, I do—I do. And actually, it's a different perspective to think about because, uh, it's definitely good when people have documented that journey and that's, you know, so you see A to Z, you know. And as you say, it's very easy for people to just look at what's happening right now or what's being shown right now and think that's it—"This is what this guy's all about"—and I understand it to one degree because of obviously, you know, other people. But then you—you should never judge, you know, one person's character on based on another person's character, you know, it doesn't make sense. Um, so definitely, you know, definitely. And at the end of the day, as you say, in terms of courses, for example, you know, at the end of the day, people forget it's not easy if you're going to run an actual course, you know, if you're actually going to do it properly, I'm right; it's far from easy. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it takes so much time and effort, and there's so much that goes behind it if you're going to do it properly and you're actually trying to achieve results for four people. Um, so to assume that people think, "Oh yeah, it's easy money," or you're just trying to do it for the money—yeah, at the end of the day, the amount of time and energy that goes into it, as you'll know, it's not easy. And we've got—we've got like very, very like experienced Traders as well now. You can see on the Discord as we're speaking on the podcast, people who type in, "Oh yeah, he says your room University is typing," like everybody's questions get answered. Yeah, everybody who has a question gets answered, every single person. So you put the infrastructure in place as well, and then you know, you—you have to pay those people to do that; it's not like they're going to do it—it's like—it's my friend; he's been training for five, six years; we do this together, you know. Um, so yeah, like this—if I feel like if you build a trustworthy Community where people are getting support, yeah, people—people can see the truth, yeah, from being fake, you know, that's it. Yeah, and they're always, uh, you know, if someone's fake, it'll always come around to—you know, it never lasts forever. That's why I always say if someone is fake and not genuine, you'll never last forever. And you know, as I think there was a term that we mentioned on there, one of the recent podcasts, like there's an FX graveyard of—it's like—what have you mentioned—funding talent, yeah? You know, they were not genuine, and now they're gone, yeah. You know, and anyone who isn't genuine will not have that longevity. 100, you know, because it—and normally they don't even have any form of jevity for a long period of time either. So no, it's incredible; it's absolutely incredible.

And in terms of, uh, you know, this all goes—now I think we're coming towards the end, so this is where I do like the quick fire question, okay? You know, just try and think of questions off the top of my head. I'm very bad at general knowledge, by the way. No, no, it's not like that. Can you imagine this—can imagine—tell me where this country—people kicked out, bro—none of that. There's more trading related—what we've been, uh, discussing. But so like you mentioned about having that, you know, that consistency and, you know, big days, you know, consistently, but in that period of time, did you face losses as well during that period during the big days?

Yeah. So if I have a big day, for example, say to myself, "I'm willing to lose this much; if I lose this much, I'm taking a break and enjoying the profits." So if I have a big day, for example, 40K, 50K, 30K, whatever it may be, I'll say to myself, "If I lose, I don't know, if I lose 3K or 4K, I'm gonna call it a day, and I'm gonna go enjoy." And yeah. So for now, is it like a relative levels to wait what you did? So I'm imagining obviously the prop firms allows you to scale, yeah. So obviously when you're doing personal accounts, it might have been say 500 or a thousand or a few thousand. Um, what's that in terms of—what in terms of like your account size right, uh, what is it now? No, no, no, no, no, no. Imagine that after all we've been talking about, yeah, yeah. You're flipping the academy, okay? I mean, back then when the consistency was going right, but then obviously you came across problems, so that would allow you to scale, yeah, exactly. But, um, obviously I'm guessing the profits, did they go—were they straight into the sort of 20, 30K, or did it—was it scaled like, you know, two, three K?

Yeah, like I said to you, my mind was already conditioned by watching people make big money, and because of the fun and talent situation, it's like I already know what it feels like because before that trade went into profit, I was in drawdown. So I know what it feels like to be in drawdown for a long time; I know what it feels like to be in profit for a long time. So for me, the profits that I was making was—was big profits, not straight away, because like I said, it took time, yeah. But because my mind was consuming so much of this content online, you know, "Just holding your trade, trust your analysis," you know, and Q Bank said something that stood out to me; he said, "Obviously take this off a pinch of salt if you don't understand trading, okay. But if you understand trading, you know what he means," he said, "Your lot size is going to be a reflection of what you're going to be able to pay for, um, okay," you see. And that really stuck on me because he said, "If you're a lot of sizes like what one—whatever it is, it's good, but you only have enough to pay for your bills and a little bit extra to live a little bit," you know. So did that kind of push you to, you know, want to—not over-risk, but essentially be—get comfortable? Yes. And then I'm never over-risk, never over-risk, never ever, because I learned the hard way, like I said, to invite by blown accounts, yeah. If a person doesn't learn, then this person just deluded, you know. But I would say the American side of the trading industry on YouTube on—they definitely helped me in terms of like understanding the possibilities of how much you can really make and how you can risk correctly with, you know, a bigger lot size toward average UK Traders using whatever, you know. So is it more like rather than pushing you to a risk—

Or anything, it was more like motivating you to get to a certain level. You know, yes, motivating you to get used to and get accustomed quickly, yeah, rather than, you know, going a much slower route of, you know, using like you said, the beginning was flipping accounts, bro. 0.05 lot size, 0.010, 0.015, 0.020, 0.25, then moved up to a standard lot, two loss, three loss, four loss, five loss, maybe like a 5.5. I had to go back down to two lots, losses, go back to 0.75 lots, and then go back up again, 10 lots, 12 loss to the 30 loss, etc., and so on and so forth. So it's adjusting to those levels exactly perfect.

And then let me think, quick-fire question here we go. I had one in mind, it's slipped me now. Um, actually, yeah, that's a good question actually. Uh, so in MFF, that's one of the feedback that I hear. So in terms of when you are trading, are you going for, you know, MFF normally have been known to have a bit of a higher slippage? One of my friends actually lost his account due to slippage really, and it stopped him out of the next available stop loss, which was like 15 minus 15K, and this top loss is only like what 800 pounds? It's a massive slippage, yeah. Is there some sort of news? Yeah, always. So, um, how do you mitigate that? Is it something you kind of, yeah, you don't trade, me, not trade news, and number one, like as in if I'll only hold through news if I'm already in a position from way before, so you have a chance to maybe move break-even or yeah, just feel a bit more comfortable. I wouldn't really move a break-even, I was like I've already accepted the risk anyway. But I've never really personally experienced like slippage with MFF. Okay, that's good. You're lucky. I've never, no, that's good, that's good.

And then in terms of, uh, sort of, you know, we talked about goals next, so longevity is that are you sort of laying the foundations outside of trading then, or is that within trading as well? Outside of trading as well. Like I said to you, like I'm trying to move countries, trying to settle down and get married, um, and just something more like investments or anything like that? Investment, yeah, for sure. Like like I said too, I'm trying to move to Dubai, and Dubai is definitely a place that I'll be looking to, you're an investor, yeah, invest in Dubai. Um, also like digital things as well. Um, uh, for example, like clothing lines. I've got people that I've been talks with, some incredible young people that are starting a club, they've already started the clothing line that I believe in, okay, to invest in them like that. Um, yeah, like I'm trying to really diversify, and I'm always open for conversations basically. Yeah, but I definitely know it's incredible to hear, and you know, in terms of when I was looking at your um, uh, event yesterday, obviously you're quite young, and then I feel like your audience, or based on what I saw, it was like we're quite young as well. Yeah, and how do you find that? Do you find that they kind of see you as a form of inspiration? I would imagine, yes, possible. Yeah, so my audience range is between like the ages of 18 to 24, between so roughly similar age to me, yeah. Um, however, I do have like some older students, for example, like I've got single moms on there, I've got like dads on there, I've got people out there in the 30s, 40s on there. But the other one, you're gonna attract who you are, in it, of course, at the end of the day it's like, um, for me, like right now I'll say to my life, I'm attracting people my age, younger, youth, etc. Um, so some of them, yeah, some of them look up to me as a form of inspiration, and a lot of people tell me like the only reason why we're learning from you is because like we feel a connection with you, and always keep it real, and you don't like sugarcoat anything, because you can pull up any of my videos, never once have I said join Yarima University if you want to get rich or if you wanna flip money or signals. I don't give signals, I don't give financial advice. Like I've never said you're going to get rich quick from this. I never said, yeah, join us after three months and yeah, you can see results. It's subjective to each person, and trading is a long, long road, you know. So I feel like the transparency, because everything that I've said, I've said what would push somebody away. Hmm, that's okay, cool, this guy's being truthful. Okay, so it's like you develop that trust with them. So yeah, that's I feel like that's why um a lot of people on my age, et cetera, but yeah, there's also a lot of people like, hold on, like it's a lot, there are, yeah, no, it is, and then they were trading, it's so wide range and worldwide, and there isn't really, there's not the thing with trading is there's not like a textbook image of a trader. You know, anyone could be a trader, but not everyone should be a trader. So I always like to say, and um, yeah, we'll just wrap up here. I'll go one last question for you then. So this is the one that everyone, uh, sort of sends to me, which is if you were to send a message to that person going through those dark times, what would it be that you would say? You know, like what would, what advice would you give to yourself if you're going through those hard times now, or if you were able to speak to that person? I would say, don't give up on yourself, and imagine what the future you would think if they look back and you gave up right now. You don't know what's awaiting you. Trust me, you do not know what's awaiting you. You could be right at the exponential curve of when your life is about to change, and give up, you don't know what's awaiting you. Literally, your life can change, your life can flip, the dynamic can change. You must become the odd one in your family that changes the circumstances, that provides for your family, to help your mum, help your dad, help your siblings, help your family. You can be that person, just don't stop, do not stop. And this is, this is in my opinion what trading is about. If you stop, you'll fail. You only fell, you only you were only fail if you stop. Definitely, definitely. And um, you know, it's that momentum, it's allowing that momentum to build, and that consistency to form, and I couldn't agree more. Well, it's been a pleasure, whether I've been where we're literally getting shoved out now, it's normally what happens, but no, I, uh, appreciate you coming down, it was absolutely a pleasure, appreciate it, and uh, your links will be in the description below, so make sure you check that out, and otherwise, thank you for subscribing, thank you for all your support, until next time, take care. Thank you.