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Well, what you're about to hear could really be humanity-changing information. Intelligence agencies using nanoparticles found in vaccines as a mechanism for telepathy amongst themselves. Think of it as part of this Havana syndrome story. Could it be part of the COVID shot technology that's now been confirmed by MI6 whistleblowers that this is actually happening? It's actually really remarkable. Sounds like something out of science fiction, but now it's been confirmed. And by our next guests who are part of the team who brought us the documentary "Died Suddenly," Jesse Beltron is a TSCM certified investigator. Edward Zaul is a producer behind "Died Suddenly." And what they've just uncovered is really remarkable.
So gentlemen, we wanted to welcome you back to the show. The first time we had you on our show, we were of course talking about the nanotech particles. We were talking about the COVID shot as really inside the human body as a transmitter. That video, that interview has been viewed millions of times now around the world. And as a result of that interview, whistleblowers started coming forward and revealing more information about this program. So, gentlemen, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.
>> Thanks for having us.
>> Thank you, Clayton. Yes.
So Jesse, maybe you can just kind of take it and since we last spoke, what have you uncovered and what did you get on film as you've been traveling the world and speaking with these whistleblowers?
>> Yeah. Well, thanks to your show, worldwide, we have had people with pedigree reaching out and asking to speak with me to see if I can help them with trials and so forth. But what was more remarkable is that we had an MI6 asset reach out and said that he would like to speak with me to disclose this specific topic. And when I spoke to him, I was very skeptical because it just sounded so fantastical. And why would someone basically at the CIA level in the Americas want to come forward and tell us about what he knows? And his story goes as this. He's Oxford-educated, background in chemistry, and he showed us all of the documentation to verify that he has been on assignments in the Middle East. He's been on assignments in Somalia. He was the head of operations.
And what he disclosed to us is that this phenomenon, this Havana syndrome, AHI, remember in our last show we talked about the agents, CIA agents, FBI agents talking about hearing these auditory symptoms and our diplomats and some congressional members. What he disclosed that this is a communication system that not only MI6 assets and agents are asked by their superiors to take on, and he says it's a form of synthetic telepathy is how they're communicating instead of using traditional dropboxes or digital assets or any other ways and forms of communications. He says this was the preferred method. And the reason he said it was a preferred method because if they were in front of an adversary or they were being surveilled, that this would be a very, very discreet, plausible deniability way of communicating and exchanging information, getting orders, and what are they to do next.
What he also disclosed is that if an agent does not follow orders or falls out of line, that it is a multifaceted system and then becomes a torture device. And this is what happened to him. And he demanded with his superiors at a certain point in this experience that they stop the communication, request to no longer be an asset for MI6. And he system went to parliament and he actually currently has a lawsuit in the UK specifically about what had happened to him and his experience. So this is Edward. This is on the court documents. His lawsuit against MI6. He was a part of this program and basically being asked to be removed from this program.
>> Yes. And also trying to get damages and compensation for what this program did to him. What Jesse's describing, it sounds fantastical. It sounds like science fiction. But the truth is, Clay, we're not in World War II anymore. We're not in the 1940s. This kind of technology, as Jesse has noted on many interviews and in a lot of the coursework that he has been studying and producing most of his life, we go back to Project Artichoke in the '50s and '60s. This was a dream. This was a mission. This was a goal. Well, it's 2026, and that goal has been realized. The goal, simply again, is that we have a version of synthetic telepathy. And I think it's less more about the communication. Communication is already pretty foundational. But the fact that the government can remotely torture someone, and this is the story, and we talk about with Havana syndrome victims, it's not just government workers or CIA or State Department officials. This is happening to regular people, people that are being targeted for various reasons. And what was described to us was wasn't unique to just MI6. The way it was described to us is that every Five Eyes nation is not only using this but actively trying to find new inventive ways to deploy it, such as what if you could convince people of a certain political ideology or religion or maybe of a certain task by talking to them like you're the voice of God? And this was the case with the way he described this. The man we spoke to in England was something he couldn't stop. It could feel like a distant conversation, a constant voice in your head. Maybe some would misidentify it as God or misidentify it as their internal conscience. But in the case of this, what if it's used in an election? What if it's used while we're bombing Iran and we're telling the people in the country, surrender, surrender, your officials are all dead? I mean, the capabilities are literally only limited by our imagination, but the impact is real. And Clayton, I think for democracies, for America, a constitutional republic, how can something like that survive if the government and shadowy officials are able to literally manipulate the mind with no fingerprint left behind?
>> Well, I've spoken to CIA whistleblowers, Jesse, who told me that the ultimate goal of the CIA, like if they could list their goals, to understand your thoughts, to control your thoughts, is at the top of that list. And so this is like the ultimate weapon in being able to control and manipulate your thoughts. They've really, in many ways, achieved this.
>> Absolutely. And here's the profound aspect of this. The last frontier is the human mind. Once you conquer the human mind, then you have absolute control. And part of Project Artichoke, not only were they looking for ways to erase memory sets, imprint memory sets, they were using drug therapies, electrical shock therapies, they were using forms of hypnosis. And my background in this journey, I became a master hypnotist for that specific reason because in order to understand your enemy, you have to understand how they think and why they do the behaviors or processes that they do. Now, think about this. If you can manipulate memory sets in the human mind and no one would ever be able to tell the difference between their own natural accrued memories and experiences versus something that has been synthetically induced upon you, what does that mean for society? What we are facing is complete slavery, complete communism in a way we've never fathomed or imagined in the human experience. I don't think our forefathers ever even thought that this would even be possible. And that's where we're at.
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Can you guys talk about the mechanism of how this works? So, this whistleblower explains that this is part of a system. So, are they injected with these nanoparticles as part of I mean, we you know, we're talking before about the COVID shot and what it was doing to the bodies in the ground. I encourage all of our viewers to go back and watch that interview that we did before because even six feet under the ground, as COVID victims were in the ground in caskets, they were still sending off this signal, their bodies were still emitting this like Bluetooth signal. So maybe you can just walk us through like the mechanics of how these agents are injected with it, given this, and then manipulated by it?
>> Yeah, I can actually answer that. So, when we interviewed him, he talked about an earlier technology that was instituted on him. He had a dental implant. It was the older tech. And I said, "Well, is it transmitting now? Do why didn't you have it removed?" And the reason he didn't have it removed because he's working towards this lawsuit issue and looking for damages. But it was an amplifier type technology. So you send a radio frequency to it, and it would amplify what was being transmitted. Now, when we look at the nanotech, and you know, we talked about what Dr. Eido Bashoet demonstrated in a 1 cc syringe. There were really a trillion tiny robots in it that he had just brought from his lab. In it, in this technology, in order to make it work, is graphene oxide and silicon materials. And we know this based on a study that was done two years prior to anyone else by Dr. Robert Young. He had a published study, and I can share that with you so you can disseminate it. And on pages 6, 8, and 12 of it, not only does he, Dr. Young, already had discovered that this graphene oxide was part of this process long before anyone else, long before anyone else started studying the vaccines or what was in them. But he also discovered, and because of our work and our human subject trial study that we just did in the UK, when we told him what our equipment was detecting for looking for harmonic signatures for silicon, he said, "Did you know?" And I didn't think about this because I thought it was insignificant, is that when I did my study, we were discovering silicon also as an aspect that was in the derivatives. And he, when I went back and looked at a study and I said, "He's absolutely right." And so this also gave more emphasis as to why the results that we were achieving in the UK were happening.
But just think about it this way. We are learning to miniaturize everything in life these days. And what the graphene oxide and the silicon-based materials are are just amplifiers. They're miniature antennas. And there is an article that was published in Scientific Reports, and it's "Terahertz Graphene on Stack Patch Antenna for the Future of 6G Communications." And in that article, it talks about how this system will communicate in the terahertz range to miniaturized implants. Okay. And this is what he's describing, and this is what he's talking about. And unfortunately, he says, during that pandemic year, he was part of given an assignment to understand this process a little bit more intensely. And he says, unfortunately, this has now been disseminated globally. It's now in our ecosystem. He's talking about this nanotech is in our, the foundation of our grasses, our trees, our air. It's in our foods. It's everywhere. And this is why we know, and I've been following you, Clayton, very closely, and you've been right on target with this topic. Every single human being out there is now a node. If you have this in you, you are part of the integrated Internet of Things. We are now synthetic biology in human form.
>> And so, Edward, we're all part of this node, and this 6G is just part of it. We're all being interconnected and controlled. I mean, we talk about like people hearing voices in their heads. You know, I was speaking to a source the other day, I cannot reveal this person. And this person has not come forward, but talking about, you know, being in Kandahar, being in Afghanistan, witnessing, of course, all of the things that were happening with the CIA. And, you know, for these individuals who were hearing voices in their head later, who were sort of CIA adjacent, and all of this stuff, it's not, it's not like PTSD, right? This is not just like you think you're going crazy. Like this is all intentional.
>> Yes. But it does cause PTSD.
>> Well, and it causes PTSD. As Jesse just noted, that the gaslighting aspect is really needed to be rethought across society because how easy it is for people just to believe someone's gone crazy, they've gone insane. You say something that's shocking to the status quo, very easy to dismiss them as credible, very easy to institutionalize them, or God forbid, put them on the latest SSRI or, you know, a venture drug from pharmaceuticals. But I think to the heart of it, you think about this capability, you've seen "The Matrix," you've seen Agent Smith, how Agent Smith, the virus kind of warden inside the system could morph into any individual any time as long as that person was not awake and wasn't cleansed, wasn't aware of this matrix. And thus, it turned every single person into an unknowing agent of the government's agenda, whether it be to listen or to watch or to participate in a form, maybe provide information. But ultimately, the mindset around this is that if you hear something in your head, up until today, even most people wouldn't believe that there's a change to the status quo. But up until today, you think it's just your internal monologue or maybe the Holy Spirit. But the change now is the very group that's lied to us about the USS Liberty, lied to us about foreign interventions, and lied to us even maybe what's happening overseas right now in Iran, they now have the ability to mimic and pretend to be your inner voice. And what can they do? It would probably even bring into question every mass shooter who's just randomly snapped, randomly gone crazy. I mean, Jesse actually, before they went postal or were activated, I suppose we'd say, he's been in contact with a few of these individuals. The Navy Yard shooter, for example, and maybe Jesse can share that. It's an incredible change, I think, for people's perspective.
>> Go ahead, Jesse.
>> Yeah. Well, Aaron Alexis. Yeah. Aaron Alexis did contact me. He was a US soldier, and he was having these exact same symptoms, and he said, "I thought you, I heard that you could help me." And I said, "Yeah, I could, and but it is a long journey. We're going to have to do a lot of testing, and this is not a quick fix." And I thought he was going to go along with the program. And then the following week, he goes and kills 12 people at the Navy Yard. And in the butt of his rifle, he inscribes the letters ELF, extremely low frequency. Now, what Edward touched upon is in Project Artichoke, if you look at the outlined goals, part of the outlined goals was to create unknowing assets, unknowing spies. So if your thoughts are no longer private, what you visualize is no longer private, what your brain transmits in the form of EEGs, telepathic means, nothing is secretive anymore. You know, people, when I mention this analogy, just imagine for those of you who are in a relationship or married, and your wife asks, "Am I fat in this dress? Do I look fat in this dress?" You're no longer going to have to be polite because you care about her feelings. Your true thoughts are going to be exposed. That is the society that we're heading towards. And we have to have a serious discussion about this topic. In fact, there is a congresswoman by the name of, oh, it's skipping me right now.
>> Luna out of Florida. She is the chair for the task force on the declassification of federal secrets, and she is recommending that their next hearing be about a follow-up to MK Ultra because our inferences and what she's disseminating is they are aware about non-consensual experimentation that's happening on US citizens today. And the fact is, it is legal to do. And this is why we have to have a serious discussion about this topic.
So this graphene oxide, when we talk about, so if our viewers are watching right now and they're thinking, "Well, is this in my body? Am I controllable? How is this different than Havana syndrome? Or how, if I don't have this in my body, how are they manipulating individuals using this Havana syndrome protocol?" Maybe you could help me walk through this and make sense of some of the differentiation there.
>> Um, well, remember, the graphene oxide is an amplifier. And what, I'm an independent investigator, aside from a company called Human Consciousness Support, and that is Matt Hazen is the CEO of that organization. And when they approached me saying that they were getting specific results regarding blood testing about excreting this out of the human system, at least bringing it down to levels that were much lower than anticipated, I was very intrigued. So, the way graphene oxide works or this nanotech works is you can send an RF emission at a specific frequency range, and it will cause a cause and effect. In California, there was a case.
>> By the way, can I just say before you go on, Jesse? We, I'll put a link in the description box because during our last interview, I put that same link there. If anyone wants to go and sign up for this and figure out how to get this out of their bodies, I'll have a link in our description. And I think Matt was kind enough to give our audience a discount, too. So, again, I'm not connected with it at all. I just want to say I want to help people if people want to get this out of their bodies and they want to look more deeply into it. I'll put a link in the description for people. So, go ahead. Sorry, Jesse. I didn't mean to interrupt.
>> Yeah. But by the way, you know, I helped them with a trial study they were doing in the UK where we took, we used a control where we took a mean average of what the silicon indicators were, and it was somewhere around 1,400. And then they monitored the locations where they came up positive, all lining up exactly how my symptomatic clients have been over prior to that pandemic. And prior to the pandemic, those who were non-symptomatic never lit up. But now, everyone is lighting up after that post-event. Now, when I went back in two months, I was completely shocked. Never before had I seen areas disappear. So, once you lit up in a location, no matter where I took you on this planet, you would always light up in that same area. When I went back, they saw a mean average of 74.6%. And it would have been 80, except we had two people. One who had a vaccine injection during the testing process, and then one whose lifestyle change, who had a relationship with someone who had the vaccine. So, we know it works. I am pleasantly surprised and that this is right now, at least, something that we can do to minimize the levels of these graphene oxide, these silicon-based amplifiers that are in you.
Now, Dr. Bashle disclosed that these things were all controlled with RF emissions. And so the mechanism and the reasoning why this was implemented is because they wanted to make sure when we transition to 6G that they have the maximum means of amplification and in order to transmit these frequencies, and they're penetrating deeper into the skin. Unfortunately, our president recently accelerated the 6G implementation here in the United States. And when he was asked about it, he says, "Oh, it penetrates a little deeper into the skin, doesn't it?"
>> Right.
>> I thought that was really bizarre.
>> Yeah. He made a point of Edward talking about the 6G will be able to basically penetrate into the skin, and we won't be able to escape this, right? So, really, the way for us to try to escape this or prevent us from being manipulated by 6G is to have this graphene oxide and these other amplifiers maybe out of our blood.
>> 100%. And what I would say to President Trump, if I get the opportunity to speak to him, even for a minute, is sir, that could be your skin. That could be your family's skin. And we haven't even had a discussion about the national security implications of a foreign power or a tech mogul or somebody having the capability to essentially remote into someone's brain to see what they're seeing, to hear their thoughts, hear what's being said in a room. It's not even a microphone hidden in a desk or a wall anymore. You are the microphone. You are.
>> Just, can I? That's a great point. You're bringing up a great point because as I was speaking to a source the other day on a story, he was saying he was laughing at the response of the Venezuelan attack where we were using, you know, we were using this like advanced technology, but it's really like 30-year-old technology that we were using when we went in, and all of these soldiers suddenly were like bleeding from their noses, and they just sort of collapsed, and they were having like anxiety attacks and everything else. So, this was like 30-year-old technology that we were using in Venezuela. And the source I was speaking to, he said he just laughed when he heard about that because the stuff that we have now is just so far advanced. So, imagine, as you say, a foreign entity, a foreign power controlling the president of the United States, Manchurian candidate style. I mean, this is what we're talking about here. It sounds fake, but it's real.
>> 100%.
>> Yeah. If there ever.
>> Go ahead, Jesse. Go ahead, Jess.
>> Go ahead. If there ever was a national security issue, this is it. Because Colonel retired Colonel Greg Gagne gave testimony at Department of Homeland Security's hearing on May 8th of 2024. He disclosed that this was taking out the best of our best in the CIA, FBI, and not only our diplomats, and now it's happening to congressional members. But if you ever wanted to have a security breach, this is it. This is the security breach. So then you, and President Putin back in 2010, when I was doing radio, he gave an interview to Politico, and he said, "The first superpower to master psychotronic weapons will be the superpower to rule the world." You know, we profess that we are a democracy. We are a free country. But are we really if your mind is the last frontier that has been conquered? There is not one single continent on this globe right now that does not have cases of people complaining of AHIs or Havana syndrome today. So let that sink in. What is the cognitive freedom of your children, your great-grandchildren, and your genealogy to come? Are they really free? They will believe that it's always been this way, and it's okay.
Edward, when you look at Havana syndrome, what Jesse just pointed out, and there's all around the world, people are experiencing this. It's not just people at embassies in Havana, Cuba. Maybe you could talk about some of the differences or similarities between what you uncovered with this MI6 whistleblower, and maybe Havana syndrome, and help us navigate that a little bit.
>> I think the first kind of similarity I've seen is the after-effect. I mean, I think for many of the people that have been unfortunate enough to be targeted and attacked and have their minds essentially scrambled by the government or by these entities that seek to control and manipulate, is that the after-impacts, they have a really hard time maintaining relationships. It's almost as if they have been raped, they have been assaulted, and that the person that's done it to them is not only running free but is never going to be held accountable. It has an incredibly demoralizing effect. And that by itself could be looked at as, oh, it's just a mental thing, or it's just. But then you look to what they've described as the starting point. Now, what was unique about the man that we spoke to in the United Kingdom was he, in a sense, I think Jesse agrees, maybe with this characterization, he volunteered in a sense. He at least agreed to the technology being used. This isn't always the case with many of the victims. They didn't agree. They were just tested on. They were used. But he agreed because it was part of his job. And I think what we found across many of the individuals is they found it unanimously intrusive, bad, negative. With the person that we spoke to, it was the first person I'd heard actually say that he feels there could be some good from this technology. Now, this could again simply be that because of his line of work, maybe it saved his life. Maybe he was about to turn a corner, and there's a guy who was about to ambush him, and the voice was able to come through and warn him. That he spoke about it in a way that was different in that way. The way it's always the same is when they are attacked, when they are abused, when they're essentially assaulted, no one is okay with it. Everyone describes it as rape. And the symptoms, the loss of cognitive functions, the, I think one of the, I'm thinking now to the way he described it, he passed out. He passed out. It was so intense, he passed out on his kitchen floor. And we've heard this in so many cases now, especially publicly with so many of the survivors from the Havana syndrome attacks now coming forward with their faces shown because all they wanted people to basically have is they're real. It's not a fabrication. It's not a fiction. They are real. Well, the experience was real. And I think that is the shared experience of all these victims. They want to be acknowledged. As Jesse's been noting, there is no way to acknowledge this right now. Technically, it's completely legal to use this technology because it doesn't formally exist. And I think this is a dangerous place because you could spy on the president of the United States of America, and there would be no charge that's brought against.
>> Jesse, can you say we're running out of time here, but I'm curious like the the the machine or the mechanism by which this is controlled. You know, I'm picturing sort of like 1950s like a satellite dish, like a parabolic microphone on the sidelines of an NFL game, like being aimed at somebody. Is it done thousands of miles away? Is it done in a truck down the street? We've spoken to CIA whistleblowers on our show who were suddenly hit with an attack on he and his wife, intense headaches, and they had been noticing obviously trucks parked down the street from their house. So, is this from afar, close by, maybe you can talk about that.
>> Yeah. Well, in the Epstein files, he discloses EMF and RF government and military technology being utilized on civilians. And he even talks about the cases. He even names a company, a corporation out of Australia, and the contact for that corporation that utilizes this type of technology. The bottom line is what is being disseminated right now does directed energy weapons on a small scale where you can carry around exist, absolutely. But the reality is that is a scope and it's misdirection. The reality is, and in my studies and my contacts in counter-surveillance, that this is satellite-based, integrated with cell towers. The FCC just released the distance restrictions on low-powered Wi-Fi devices. It's completely gone. So this is all by design. This is all one complete network system. And unfortunately, there's nowhere to go to escape from this. I've taken people down deep down into granite caverns two miles down in a place called Jackson, California, where you could find a lot of these places. And there's no radio transmissions out there. You can't get cell phone signal, and we're still detecting the signal deep down within the caverns. But so right now, they're trying to misdirect you, make you believe that this is some device, but think about the logistics. There are tens of thousands of people globally who are experiencing this. What is the feasibility to have that many individuals out there being paid to aim a device at these individuals? It doesn't make sense.
>> Doesn't make sense.
>> And in common sense. Yeah. It's so that's the reality of this.
>> And the bottom line right now is they're only acknowledging this is happening to federal employees. And it's important that everyone understands that our leaders need to now recognize that I have been covering this topic on civilians since 2010, along with the gentleman by the name of Dr. John Hall. But if you think you're immune, you're insane yourself because this is going to happen to someone in your family, your children, your grandchildren, or someone you care about or love dearly, or maybe even a very close friend. No one is immune from this. And this is why it's important. Now is the time. The window of opportunity is so small right now. We're in a paradigm shift where complete slavery, regardless of skin color, is going to be on a plateau that we've never ever seen.
>> Edward, final thoughts.
>> This is the sovereignty of our brains and our soul itself. We must fight now. It's more important than any border or any conflict because the conflict now is whether a small few are going to have the ability to manipulate our very thoughts. We can't have a free society, let alone freedom in our own lives. So, I would just say thank you so much for bringing us on, Clayton. This is going to be part of "Died Suddenly 2," so if you want to find more about it, just diedly.info or follow our X account at suddenly. We look forward to sharing more.
>> Thank you, Edward. Thank you, Jesse. Like I mentioned earlier, we'll have a link in the description if people want to try to take action on this graphene oxide in their, you know, in their bodies and do what they can to protect themselves. I really appreciate it, gentlemen. Thank you for your incredible work on this, and we'll be following the release of "Died Suddenly 2." Thank you so much. Bless you.
>> Thank you, Clayton. We really appreciate you.
>> You bet. Thank you, guys.