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What's up, dog? What's a good way to math respect numbers gradually? He walks in talking, just talking. All right, can we do it? What y'all want me here? Wherever you want to be, baby. Right here. Oh, you put the pillar behind you that them feet can't hit the [ __ ] man. I'm a [ __ ] man. I'm gonna [ __ ] start that. Yeah, men come in all sizes. You want to start? You won't know. All right, nobody's ever questioned your man. Listen, okay, I'm ready. You ready? All right, cool. I mean, he said he ready. Hey guys, don't [ __ ] this up. He told you. All right, this is a big opportunity. Don't [ __ ] this up. Okay, that big of an opportunity. Podcast is about to ethics right here. All right.
Hey, hey, bro. I've watched your podcast. This is totally go. I have a podcast. I got a podcast. I'll shoot myself. Heart to Heart. What is that? It's hard. It's a talk show. You're a talk show? Yes. Not a podcast. I'm talking media. We kill your numbers. Well, do you own this? Yes. Yes. Well, do you have a distribution, a media outlet for it? No, we don't. Oh, that's weird. I do.
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Welcome to the pivot, man. Shoot. Uh, this guy needs no introduction. This is Kevin Hart. Uh, man of many jobs. We got Young Chan, Freddy T. First off, we're gonna get be serious before the show starts because I know where this is going. NFL family. Uh, we lost our brother, Jimmy Williams. Um, recently. He graduated in 1997 from High School in Louisiana with me. He married one of my good friends um from college, and she reached out to me and told me how proud she was that we were doing this show and how much it helped. And she said she thought about that after Jimmy passed that you should give people their love uh while they're still here. So to Chandra and his son, to all of his family members, we're praying for you guys. God bless you all. And so we dedicate this show to you. And obviously, it's the biggest show we've ever done, and that's why I wanted to do it here. Strong, strong man.
Um, first of all, uh, R.I.P. and prayers to the family. Um, I do want to start off, man, by by simply showing you guys a little bit of love. Like, I'm I'm doing this because, hey, I'm a fan. But B, I love to see, uh, I love to see us move and navigate in this space of entertainment differently, right? And we got people that are doing groundbreaking things. Or you support it by um adding to the groundbreaking moments, right? Like the people that you got coming on your show, the discussions that you guys are having. Not for one minute, please don't think that it's not impactful or necessary. You guys have discovered a way to be new and Elaine in space where so many are, uh, that's a big deal. So I'm here simply because I love and support the thing that you're doing, but also because it's dope. So I want to take a moment to give you guys your flowers at the top. We'll get in, we'll talk, but you guys are doing some dope [ __ ] which is why we're doing what we're doing.
All right, and now we appreciate that. And this is, and this is different for me. So we did, we were on First Take at FAMU, yes, uh, together. We both killed. Nice suit that day, by the way. Thank you. Very nice, man. She told me it was tight. When we stood out, you went snug, but it was a good soup, by the way. A tailored suit is the right suit. Yeah, that's why we was on Stephen. That that's what I remember about the family day. Nice suit. Appreciate it. But you're coming off of really what's historic. I was, I saw you with Dave Chappelle, uh, Chris Rock, and you've now grown into what is a megastar in many different, in many different medias, man. I mean, you have, you know, you have shows and you do movies and Netflix series and all of these different things. Where did that work ethic start though? Because I watched the, the docu-series and it's Laugh Factory and and small clubs and those things that that set the foundation to have you where you are, where you got your your foot on your neck and you still ain't letting up.
Um, it's the discovery. I think it's a discovery of the opportunities that present themselves based off of what you're willing to work for, right? Uh, there's a lot, there's a lot of talk about what you want to do, about what you can do, but the energy and effort that goes behind that sometimes doesn't match. What I found out early on is I said, look, if I, if I want to do something and I'm willing to actually go out and put the effort and actions behind it, well, my chances of executing that thing or on behalf of that thing, well, they're, they're actually real. And I set baby steps, you know, little baby goals, not big ones, but small ones. And, oh [ __ ], what I'm saying, and I'm doing, I'm actually, I'm actually achieving. And the goals get bigger, they get bigger, they get bigger, they get, they get bigger and bigger. So I found out that your worst enemy is you and your ability to stay true to the thing that you want to do. If you lie to yourself and cheat yourself within, you're not fooling anybody but yourself. But if you actually get up every day and you got that action and you got that energy that's like, I have to go and do this because I'm trying to get here. And you know, every day you're working towards that, well, you're gonna get there. It may take you longer, some may do it shorter, but you're not going to lose. So I got addicted to winning, got addicted to winning. And I found, I found that you can win more when you surround yourself with more winners. I found that putting yourself in the environment of motivational, inspirational, uh, personnel, people that just want [ __ ] out of life, it's addictive. You, you get that, like that rubs off. So my surroundings changed, my ideas grew, my wants grew. And, you know, now you're looking at, uh, you know, you're looking at a guy that quote unquote is a mogul, um, but I'm building and I'm building with amazing talent, amazing personnel.
With all you got going, bro, that's a crazy thing. Brother, movies, the Heart, uh, what is it? Heartbeat Productions, all the stuff you're doing, man, stand-up tours and all that. Most importantly, family. Got kids, married. Do you feel as if something has to sacrifice? Are you short-stroking any of those opportunities?
I mean, you can't. It's, it's, look, it's a gift and a curse. You can't want the the bells and whistles and not understand the sacrifices that come with it. You know, some things are going to be a little tougher, right? Like, now I'm at a point where I can give my family more time, I can be more available. But the work that goes into building things, sometimes you got to be hands-on until you don't have to be. And the grind that goes with that is one that's necessary. Uh, so we talk about Heartbeat, right? You're talking about what started off as a production company where I was just developing ideas and selling ideas and being a producer on things, but it was going to another entity. I figured out that I can be my own entity. So growing Heartbeat to the point where, you know, we're, we're a company with a valuation of 700 million. Now, we're, we're full-fledged media. I'm a media, I'm a functional media outlet, TV, film, radio. Uh, I don't, if it's advertising, is it unscripted, scripted, whatever that thing is or that thing may be, I now have the ability to outsource new talent, create opportunities for and make things happen. I am now a bridge to success for some. Um, that's different. That's a, that's the bigger side of the win. And that only grows, right? I'm not, I, if I don't see Tyler Perry, if I don't see Hov, if I don't see Oprah, like, if you don't see the people that have built things and that'll put a blueprint out there, you can ignore it or you can go, oh [ __ ], it's doable. I chose not to ignore it. So in doing that, all right, you got to sacrifice a little bit. I'm tired, I'm a little stressed out at times, but I'm 43. What's my end goal? Where am I trying to get? And when do I want to be there? By time I'm 50, maybe I'm relaxed and my feet are up and I'm not [ __ ] working another day, and neither is my family. Maybe I'm building generational wealth. Maybe I'm changing a narration that's attached to me, my household, and what's coming after. It's all about what you want and what your end goal is. You know, this isn't for other people. This isn't, I'm not working and busting my ass for the benefits of others. I'm trying to create and change something so that other people coming after can go, oh [ __ ], we can either do that same thing or we can go past it.
Even RC started off and you mentioned the people that came before you, you know, you had the Eddie Murphy's and the Bernie Macs. They're not doing it to the scale in which you did it because they didn't have a production part of it, but they went from, uh, comedic stand-up, you know, to movies and everything else. Um, and I'm pretty sure, like us, people like to say they had dreams and visions. You're larger than life. What were those early visions? And this is more so for our viewers, right? Because I'm sure a lot of them want that overnight success and that [ __ ] it doesn't happen that way. Did you ever, uh, envision yourself at this magnitude doing the things that you're doing right now?
Oh, you can't, you can't say that you have. You can, you can see success, you can want success, but what you manifest and what you may get can be two different things, right? I want to be a successful comedian. I didn't know that being a successful comedian would open up these other doors and I could go through this other [ __ ]. But when you see it now, it changes, right? But from the beginning and start that way. Eddie Murphy, when you talk about Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy was not just comedy. Eddie Murphy was, he was stardom. Eddie Murphy was the definition of stardom. Eddie Murphy was the comedian that matched the same energy of high-level success with stand-up comedy as movie box office. Like, he, you gotta understand that that doesn't happen, right? Right. Like that synergy and that parallel, it doesn't happen. So when you see that, you're like, whoa, that, I wish, I hope, maybe, man, but you probably can never having the opportunity to do the same thing and be in that same space. You're never going to achieve what he achieved. You're never going to surpass what he did. But you can create a different conversation that's attached to you. And as I gain momentum, I realize that that's what I now was doing. I'm, I'm creating a different conversation and attaching it to myself. And by the way, so the Seinfeld, right? Like, so you have, you have different versions that some people may, uh, may realize or may not. King's a comedy, right? Like, you got, you got different conversations, you got different things that changed the dynamic of what we do. Comedy is an event, not because of Eddie Murphy, but Kings of Comedy reinvented the event. Dice Clay was doing it and it was great, and Jeff Foxworthy and his guys, they were doing great numbers in arenas. But people dressed up to go to the King's Comedy. People put on, people put on mink coats, people [ __ ] had on suits. It was an event because they made an event. They had the suits on first. Oh [ __ ], comedy, it's changing. Those doors are open because people figured out ways to change the locks and open them up again. I'm just changing the locks and open up again. Chappelle, Rock, like, we, you're seeing, uh, an energy that's constantly reinventing a thing that has been around forever. But if you don't have the talent and understanding with the talent of how to create, recreate, and move and operate so that it's fun and that it seems new and energized every time, it will be stagnant.
What's crazy to me, especially when you start to mention the, the guys that that started, you know, uh, I wanted a red leather suit when I was growing up because I saw Eddie Murphy in one and I thought it was cool, and I had to wear no shirt under it. You know, I asked my mama, could I get one? And she was like, baby, you can't do that because you ain't got the type of money to do it. You know, but you look at Eddie Murphy's life and the different marriages and the kids and all. Steve Harvey, who his wife and their lives has now become some of the quote-unquote black goals of what people watch. But now we live our lives so publicly. And if you show, if you show the good, people want to see the bad. You've dealt with different things from decisions you've made that most times, especially back in the day, people got to handle in their house, right? If me, me and my wife got something, we talking about it that of the house. It's not something that has to be put on front street. If I, if I say something wrong, I set it in my house. It wasn't on Twitter, so I didn't have to get the backlash of the rest of the world. How have you one become so successful despite the missteps that you've had publicly?
Because they're not, they're not real. You, the reactions from the people on the outside, it's not real. There's no such thing as [ __ ] perfect, right? Like, all right, people [ __ ] up, people do dumb [ __ ]. Unfortunately, it's the world we live in. I myself have [ __ ] up several times. I raise my hand proudly. I've done a lot of dumb [ __ ]. And doing dumb [ __ ], your goal is to get better, corrected, hopefully not revisit the dumb [ __ ]. Hopefully you get better, hopefully you get smarter. Some people do, some people don't. You think jail is there and has that many people in it because people learn their lesson instantly? Or do people revisit dumb [ __ ]? It's not new. This is an uncommon. But in the world we're in today, people go, shock, I can't believe. Yeah, oh, I can't. Who you [ __ ]? Yes. What? Right. What? You get the lifting up everybody's hood and looking underneath that goddamn. You want to see the dynamics of everybody's car. Everybody's car don't run right. Everybody car ain't built with the best metal. Everybody car, I don't have the proper, uh, alignment to make sure that you're [ __ ] uh, fuel injection is what it's supposed to be. Everybody got [ __ ]. But you can ignore it or not. I'm concerned with how I deal with mine. I'm not concerned with the world of opinion of others. I never have been. So when you look at all that I've been through, my ups and downs, I'm human. I'm [ __ ] human at the end of the day. That doesn't justify what I've done. It doesn't make it right. It means that I'm supposed to get better as I grow. There's nothing doper than an old man or an old woman because they talk to you about life and they experience experience to talk to you about life. You know, the dumbest [ __ ] is talk to a young person that speaks as if they know about [ __ ] life. You don't know [ __ ]. You young dummy. You don't know [ __ ]. I'm 43 and I'm still discovering [ __ ]. Like, you don't, that's the benefit of being around the older generation, of having a grandmom, a grandpa, a [ __ ] aunt. The benefit is getting some life experience and goddamn wealth of knowledge. That's the benefit of it. So I love that throughout my career, throughout my life, my mistakes have been public. And I love that people can see the way that I've handled them in a way that I've attempted to turn around. It's not a secret, right? I don't need to be a secret, nor do I need your approval or disapprove. It doesn't matter. So when you say how do I continue? It's because I realize that it's not real, right? Like, we're in a time now where people view social media as the end all be all. There's a gift and a curse to it. The gift is that it gives you an opportunity to talk to your fan base, generate a fan base, gives you an opportunity to create material, uh, push that material, and you can do it in a way to where it's all you. And if people grow and gravitate towards it, great, you're building something. The curse is if you read those comments and you believe those comments, then you become the comments.
We don't give them about it. You're fine. Yeah, you're fine. 500 comments of a thousand comments or 2,000 comments has nothing to do when you walk outside and you go about your day. Nobody that you bump across is going to go, hey man, I'm the one that said this on your page. Right? Right. It never happens. Yeah, right. Because it's not real. So my process of it and the way that I, the way that I receive it is very grounded. I have a grounded sense of reality. And, you know, I'm very thankful that if that moved, changed, I'm in trouble. I'm [ __ ] trouble.
Bro, and one thing he said, two things you said, just the grounded part, the humbleness part, but also don't like that, don't [ __ ] it up. Yeah. Watched it all, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then laugh at my pain. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, like, once you started telling your story, once you started making, you know, jokes and laughing at your pain, that's when I felt as if you took off. Was that a decision you had to make? What, what created that? Because once you started mocking yourself almost, it was like, oh, this dude, like, yeah, I think you took off. He's real. I don't know if it's real. I don't know what what started that. But no, you're, you're spot on. I mean, look, self-deprecating humor, um, is what I feel is like the, the best humor, right? And there's stages. I have stages in my comedy career. And in the beginning, you know, it's, it's, you're introducing yourself to the world. And what you'll learn, and what I've learned from watching the greats, you walk away from anything that they've done knowing about them. You know about them prior. Is great because you know, he did cocaine. You knew a little math problems. You knew it's strong, right? It wasn't a secret. You knew about it. He was looking great because of the, the raw approach to, I don't give a [ __ ], I'll tell y'all I flushed the cocaine down and told my Grandma had it. Eddie was great because Eddie told you where he came from. He was poor. My dad was an alcoholic. He's the whoop I had. Like, you, you're laughing, but he's letting you know who the city is. He's letting you know who he is. Chappelle, unapologetically himself. Rock, same thing. Um, I can go down the list and not leaving anyone out purposely, but using those names as references. The beauty of it is that if you choose to put yourself out there, then you're making the choice to simply be you and have fun being you. My therapy is being me. Here's my good, here's my bad. And in comedy, when I'm on stage, I've done that. Now that it got to a point where my brand got to a place where it was like, okay, you know, I'm, I'm low-key turning into the, the family guy. That, okay, [ __ ], all right, well, let's figure, let's sit for a second and figure it out. Now I'm in a space where it's like, okay, I've done that. I need to give people a reminder. This, this tour that I'm on now, Reality Check, it's just in case you [ __ ] forgot why I sit where I sit or why I am where I am. This, this one's just a reminder for what I do, right? I'm, let me go back to a little raw, right? Let me go back to a little edge, but let me make sure I'm still having fun in my craft. You got to constantly recreate yourself in your craft. That moment that I made a decision to be honest, to be personable, to put it all on the table, but that's because I was going through a lot of [ __ ] and I was like, hey, I'm sitting to keep this to myself, right? [ __ ] it, here it come. Yeah, my dad, all right, here's what he did. My, my wife, well, I did this. It was all, let me get it out. And the response came. It was an overwhelming response from it. So that did help amplify. But now, you know, at 43, 20 plus years in, it's not about getting to the top, it's about staying there. How the [ __ ] do you stay there? That's what people don't think about. Like, how do you stay there? That's the, the real struggle. Staying there. It's not getting there. It's the freaking perception from the outside of what now? Yeah, you got the model. Yeah, that's the next step. I'm saying, like, that's the, that's the real work. Yeah. So at this point in my career, I look back and I go, well, I've been up here for, I've been up here for a minute. I gotta, I got, I need other branches. Some of my branches became the business. The business became my because if I build that, well, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna own everything I do, right? Right. I'm gonna own the, the space. So if this ever does peak down, doesn't matter. I'm gonna, my hobby is ownership now. My, my hobby is realizing the rooms that I've been able to get into, the hands that I shake, and the personnel that I'm around. I don't take that for granted.
Are you just supposed to shake their hands? Are you supposed to make more of those moments? That's what we don't do enough of. Our culture is caught up in the cool. Our culture is caught up in what we are. You don't realize the reason why the other side has worked so long and why they're so successful is because they figured out how to hold on to the handshake. They hold on to the handshake. They create more handshakes. Those relationships. We don't, right? We minimalize the opportunity to grow and be around and be a part because we're so self, so self-involved. You see my, and I got mine too.
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You don't, you don't realize, right? Real wealth and opportunities are built. I now do, and my priority is that. So the way you talk about me, when I made that decision, my new decision is to focus on that. Star's gonna be my star. I can't get no bigger again. Why would you say that? What else? What else am I gonna do? So I can, I can get more artsy. I can change and do other projects where people go, wow, he's more talented. Or we had no idea. I'm not gonna get bigger. Where am I go? What's the definition of more big? Like, what? I don't, I don't need. I'm not chasing that. I'm not, I'm not chasing a bigger light. Right. Not chasing a bigger light. Right now, I'm chasing, what's the thing that I can build that will last and that other people can come through? And other people can say, I, I, I went through this tunnel and this propelled me to doing blah, blah, blah. How many jobs can I create in here? How many people can I employ under here? How many life-changing opportunities come from these the thing that I have here? How many people am I taking out the hood? How many people am I [ __ ] providing, uh, homes for or putting food on the table? How many families are being fed under this? The struggle when you get to a certain place is, what's my real purpose? What am I supposed to do with this? I don't want it all. I want all the [ __ ] money, right? I don't, you, it's boring having money by yourself because you do [ __ ] and nobody's taking your friends can't come, they can't do it. So if you don't [ __ ] create the things for people to [ __ ] roll with you, yeah, it's lonely there. That's on my circle. That group of kids around me, they're not hangar owners, spot to earn, they're not giving a lot of change because we made a commitment. We are a thing, that company, Heartbeat. We are a thing. I want to change lives. And the best way to do that is to [ __ ] build the thing that acts as a foundation that you can keep building on.
How do you choose that? What the thing is? No, no. How do you choose them people? Yeah, because that's what a lot of people, you get bread, but did you choosing people before you had bread? When you were building, when you were silenced, the albino, yeah, we, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was, it was a process. Like, in watching a true story, and to let you, let you answer the question. And watching True Story, and because when you watch art, you always feel like there's some truth in it, right? Like, there's something that that creative or that that star had to draw from. Art imitates life. And so I'm watching that, I'm like, well, it looked like Kev didn't been through this. Yeah, and it's dealt with some of these things. Yeah. So you have to, you have to pull it from a real place. And so don't think about True Story, shout out to Wesley Snipes. I mean, that project isn't the project that it was without his involvement. Um, but it's a Heartbeat production. That's my company. Like, the proudest thing about that isn't the performance, isn't the man, look at me acting. No, I, I know I got that. I can do that when I want. That's a light switch. It's the company. We develop, we produce. And here's an example of what we now do. Damn, Wesley came with me and my company, Netflix with me and my company. I'm in a partnership. I'm not a work hire. I develop and create content. We're a media [ __ ] hub. That's the best part of the conversation. My circle around me kept me grounded and keeps me sound enough to be able to think about the future, to be able to think about the other ideas. I don't get to the space of company and company growth without a good foundation. My, we, 20 plus years in my entertainment career, I've had a circle around me. I can't, you can't pop that bubble. Don't exist. There's no new added components into my friendship and my wheels. I have new people that I know, I have friends outside, but my real foundation, it's a solid eight. When you look at other people that act as examples, Brian, it's a solid eight. Whole solid six. If you know, you know. If you're around, you know. And we know each other's foundation, and it doesn't move. And that's beautiful because it doesn't exist. Our culture [ __ ] it up more than anybody else. Very self-destructive. When we get to the places where that financial revenue changes, what you get, oh, I should be getting a, how much? You weak. It's very, right? And that's that's a problem. So if you don't personally try to break that chain from the top by leading with the position of, we are all going to be good because we want to make sure that we hold each other accountable, we take care of our own, but more importantly, we grow the data. We get into the space of competitiveness, the data that our ego is overpower and overshadow the opportunity ahead of us, we lose. Right now, if I ask you guys to tell me five bands, five music groups that are still together from back in the day, you're gonna struggle. Yeah. Nobody asked themselves why. Why do they all break up? Money. Why do they all [ __ ] break up? Ain't no money. I'm just saying, like, that's not like nobody sees this. We ignore it. Why are we the coach that is always behind the knowledge in a work? It ain't working out. We ain't that. It ain't. I just heard this isn't, uh, Maro broke up. And I'm a [ __ ] fan of these guys, by the way. The future is so bright for that thing, that IP, that opportunity, to whatever. And I see him going back and forth on social media with like, what, what's happening? What do you, what, why, why, why can't we ever surpass or overcome the financial hurdles that present themselves and stay, stay connected? Why can't we do that? It's called ego.
That's how you remove it. These are said and done in some circumstances. Actually, not in some, some instances. But but when when people say that, right, when they say it's easier said than done, and the ego, the ego is is very present and dominant, right? You got to ask yourself, why? Why? Why does it matter? Why does it matter? Me and Dwayne Johnson are good friends, you know, why our [ __ ] works. DJ, I don't give a [ __ ] about titles. I don't give a [ __ ] about number one or number two. DJ, I don't, I don't care what that thing is like. What, dude, I love working with you. All right, you're my guy. I love you. Champ, love you too, Kev. You want to do this thing? Let's make it work. Have my company's producing it. You want dope? I hope you guys knock it out the park. Let me see the materials. If I can help, I can DJ. I got something that's coming from my company. Hey, do you want me to include you? Do you guys want to co-produce? How do you want to do it? We'll work it out. We'll figure it out. Hold, can you sit down with me, man? I got a show I want to [ __ ] talk to you. Yeah. Hey, man, I got this thing. Guys, I'm doing Chris, man. You should go. What do you think about doing New York together? [ __ ] it. We can co-headline it. Let's put this [ __ ] down the middle. I don't care. Okay. Caveat. Let's do it. You think Dave will come to one of the shows? Let's ask him. Dave, what you want to do? Oh my God, guys, it's great. There's no egos with real success and real [ __ ] moves. The real ones, right? Right. The real ones. There's no egos because collabs are collabs. That don't question where I stand and what I am, right? There's nothing about the next person that's gonna affect, rock my world. I know I'm Kevin Hart. I don't need you to [ __ ] validate it. You're right. I don't need that. I have no ego. None. I got a [ __ ] tequila. I'm not competing with Dwayne. Yeah, it's not me versus him. You bring his bottle out here, I'll be the first to hold it up. I'll be the first to support my guy while I have mine because there is no ego. People don't understand that. There's so much room for us all. But there's this warped view that there isn't. This is warped view that there can only be one. That's the beautiful thing that Chappelle, me, and Chris on stage. There's this thing, if they're gonna know there can only be one, they're gonna be one great guy. No, it can, it could be a bunch, actually. That's why they have so many different titles in box. That's why they have so many belts in boxing because there's so many [ __ ] great champions. It's not just one. He's the great. He's a Hall of Famer. But other people are undefeated too. They can't beat Floyd, but they still beat a bunch of people, which is why they're in a CWCEFQ.
I want it. Digest it. You, I'm always the one that want to give flowers on the show. So I want to give Florida's flowers, right? Absolutely. Floyd, he always talks about he just wants us to win. So he's a good guy. He's helped us tremendously with connecting the dots and getting people like yourself on here. So shout out, Champ. We love you, boy. It's about just winning. Taking the ego out the way. We're going to continue to make big moves, right? Because, uh, you're gonna let the rock know. He stays down the street from me, okay? He used to, okay. I DM that big [ __ ]. But I know sorting through the 390 million followers, I don't know many that are busier than me. I mean, look, you look, look at us doing this in the house, like, it's, we really are busy. Like, you know how people say that, but they're not doing [ __ ]. Right? That mother's addicted to work. Like, he really is working. But he's not stupid. Like, we, you guys are moving and navigating in the space where your engagement is only going to grow. And it's because of the thing that you built. That's, that's, that's a fact. He's not gonna ignore that. And I'm telling you as a fact, him see me on, and I'll tell him like, it's a dope thing. Just go and sit down. But you're fine. It's not that hard. Like, it's like people that understand, understand. You're not selling him on it. You wouldn't have to. So I went on behalf of me coming on here, I would simply give him a throw, like, dude, you should, especially he's got [ __ ] to talk about. So he's gonna do it right. I think that's just been the dope thing about this, about this space. And in the same sense, Kev, like, we're still fans. You know, like, like driving over here, it wasn't lost on me. Like, I've met you before ESPN a ton of times. It wasn't lost on me like, this still, it's still effing Kevin Hart, like, period, point blank. But what we do love about this show, man, is we have conversations, especially for our culture, that are important. Black fathers is a conversation we have a ton. Um, and the whether people try to speak to the lack thereof or the efficiency of the way that they play their roles, you are heavily involved as a husband and as a father in your children's lives. And you make the jokes, like, my favorite, one of my favorite things you ever said, very Shoreline, let me get my flops, you know what I mean? Because like, I've been there with my kids. But, you know, and and having a blended family, and and now being friends, uh, with Tori, but raising a family with Eniko, how do you, how do you manage to do all of those things at a high level and still do this?
Uh, you, you get better, right? I can, I can credit my ex-wife on gross myself too. Um, it's not about us, right? It's a period where your fight blurs into the to the world of raising kids. And you got to realize they got nothing to do with the with the [ __ ] that we had, right? And through the course of the years, we've gotten better. We've become friends, right? We had to learn to be friends again. Um, you know, my wife, Eniko, the idea of a husband, that so I want to move. It's a lot. It's a lot to deal with. But we're investing into this thing. We're growing and building this thing. I'm a good [ __ ] dad. I ain't the best dad, but I'm, I'm a good dad for real. Nair, we talk. My kids know what I do. When I leave, the young ones, Daddy has to go to work. They know why Dad's working. They know what I'm working towards. They know the importance of work. Um, as a, as a father, especially as a black father, the conversation, the conversation isn't consistent enough about the good ones. People love to hear about the bad ones. People love to hear, you know, about dead, don't take care of kids. But they don't like to hear about the ones that do. And if anything, you guys having a conversation here and giving those men their flowers was well deserved. And by the way, women are [ __ ] amazing. You're, you're impeccable when it comes to strength, when it comes to value. You, how about down about now? You got that. We're never gonna compete. That's not it. It's not a competition. But we're needing and we're necessary. And if you understand your role, you play your role at the highest level, you'll see a return and result from your impact from your kids. It's all about raising good people. My daughter, Heaven, is in, I mean, I can't, I can't tell you how proud I am of her. She's interning underneath my company umbrella, not because she was forced, because she asked. My son is a representation of, I saw what you did and I want to do it. My son gets up in the morning, he takes his jogs, he wants to work out. He's [ __ ] 15, hitting the gym at 6 a.m. randomly because that I'm just gonna go and I'm gonna roll with you or I'm gonna go be with you. The little ones, like kids, the sponges, what you do, what they see, they will, they will follow. There's no bigger return of love than that. Than seeing that. When I see Steph Curry and I see his dad come up to him after the game, and you see Dell look at his son with that feeling of, yeah, and then he got another son, he goes, yeah, like that love of, did I do good? Yeah, I did good. Like, it's no longer about you. It's about the, I did good. I'm at that place where I'm looking at my kids and I'm going, I did good. I'm not at the weed yet, you know, I still, like, they're not out yet, you know, you get to that 21 period, then you can say, all right, at this point, it ain't, it's whatever you want to say. Yeah, yeah. Let's do it. But you get to look and see the people that you raise, what kind of people are they? Are they selfish? Are they [ __ ]? You know, you got people who got kids that are dickheads, and they gotta look at them like, you [ __ ] [ __ ] like they can't say it, but they [ __ ] Goddamn it, just kidding. The [ __ ] right? Like, I don't have that. Like, I got good kids. They're good people, man. Um, you know, and I'm, I'm trying to do the same thing with these two other ones. I'm not having no more kids. I'm throwing these balls in the trash. I want nothing to do. Yeah, I'm getting, I've already had a conversation. The only reason why I can't communication, why I can't get it now is because of my schedule. I have a question. Are you ready? Because they, they cut mine and I don't give a [ __ ] thing and they burned them. No, you want to have the look though. No need to look. Hey, you can take my balls and you can [ __ ]. I don't give a [ __ ]. I don't need balls. I don't want another kid. I don't know the [ __ ] kid, but I'm slapped. No, you can leave them in there. Hey, I don't give a [ __ ]. I don't want another shower. You can take my balls and I don't give a [ __ ] what you do. You tell me they got to come off. All right, it is what it is. Sir, take them off. Take the balls off. I guess you haven't talked to my wife. No. Hey, wait. Logan knows. So my wife, we were kind of arguing one day, and my daughter knew I had a vasectomy. She was very little, and she was like, Mom, why are you treating that like this? You already made him cut his penis off. Hey, wait, maybe. Yeah, you thought I didn't have one no more? Yeah, like I still got one. He's broke. It's funny.
I love that you line it up even with this joke. I, I mess off a lot, not BS [ __ ]. And I gotta do. Actually, delivery is kind of like yours because I love your [ __ ]. So me and my wife go to a nudist colony like once, once a year. We go to a nudist college. What's going on? Yeah, yeah. We go to a place where like, you walk in, everybody just gets naked. I didn't know if you knew this. No, I'm just asking you. What's going on? Okay. Yeah, so we go to the nudist colony. And, you know, we just kind of go around. You got to shave everything and show out. And especially when you shave your [ __ ], it looks bigger because you gain inches from no hair. Back up for a second. I just want to get clarity or something. Y'all just, we, it's kind of the question. But we, we don't get down, but we just like to be around naked people together. You see what I'm doing, bro? That's y'all two conversations. We just like to be around naked people. The one thing to get to me, you, you hear what you're saying out loud, bro. I hear what I'm saying out loud. It's just like breakfast. What's your eating, Chad? I don't want you know the buffet. Your dicks by my ex. I don't want your dick by my eggs. I eat coochie. I don't want coochie by my eggs. Even though I eat coochie and eggs. This is my Kevin Hart delivery. Yeah, I'm still at the point. You just saying we just like to be around naked people. You don't like to be my negative people. Be honest with you. I have no desire to be around a bunch of people I don't know just sitting there naked. That's what I said. But some people, but the women, you like, you better strip club. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet good, a good number. It ain't a lot of put together people going through this stage. I'm willing to bet, you know, hippies. I'm willing to bet a real strong number that you looking at some bad bodies out there. And that's that's a fact. Discouraged steel nipples, titties. So you just, so you just, this is a free, your free spirit. Yeah, I have a free spirit. We're a free spirit. Got it. She likes the tan. And it's not like, I'm six three, but I just got a six three dip. I don't have a six seven dick. Like, it's not impressive. It's normal. I have no, I don't know what that means. And I don't want, I don't want you to keep going. It's like, no, no, no. You want like a baby. I don't have nothing to my knee. I've never. Yeah, we can stop right here. Yeah, we're gonna stop. I don't think. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something about as soon as what you should process. I have a friend, I have a friend named Big Jay. Uh, J, if you watching this, this, I'm gonna tell the story. You're probably gonna, you're probably gonna figure out a way. I haven't talked to you in a long time, but I have to tell this story. So Big Jay Oakerson, it's a comedian friend of mine from Philadelphia that I started out with. And Big Jay went through this period where he was interested in swinging. There's a true story. Hand in the Bible. And he convinced his girl to swing, right? He said, we should do it. And he wanted to do it because the other couple that he wanted to do it, the guy's like, woman was, is that like, she was, she was great looking. Like, I want to do it because I can get to her. Like, we can, it can be great. And I was like, dude, I said, you're taking the gamble. I said, that's a lot. It's aggressive, right? It's not really my cup of tea, but I don't know how people live. And I don't knock what people do with their lives because that's your life. Big Jay said they swung and he watched this guy [ __ ] the dog [ __ ] out of his mouth. He said, I have no, he never bounced back from me. He never bounced back. He saw. I'm telling you, man. I don't know what you think he is. If you get in there, somebody got them go double overtime on your lady, you may not bounce back. All right, so you need to think of it all. Think about the first step. You better think about three, four, and five. You see a [ __ ] sweat dripping from his head. That's aggressive. Ain't no going back. So you need to ask yourself.
That on some real [ __ ] though, like there's some advantages to height, right? Shaq was on the show, and Chan asked him a question about, if you tell me, he asked Shaq about his dick, I'm walking. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay. He was about 6'9". Oh, like, can your big ass 69? Because he can't. So, like, but I think on the opposite side of the spectrum, good questions, like, you know, we get through the good stuff. That's Chan. Yeah. What's happening? No, but this, this is for the culture. Before, because as I'm here, Shaq can probably struggle, but I'm thinking about you right now, bro. Oh, first of all, why are you thinking about him? I ain't thinking about you. There's two things. Not like that. Listen, I'm gonna tell you all this is not, and I mean it, it's from the bottom of my heart. You're too nasty. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You need to, you need to figure it out. Okay. I got three kids. I've been married. You need to figure it out. All right. I don't know where the math or geography is off for you guys, but it's common sense. What do you think? If you are partaking in the 69 position, that your height comes into play? You're dealing with a half space of your body. Your legs have nothing to do with the 69. You [ __ ] jackass. No, but listen, but okay, my friends, you are talking about the bandwidth of torso. Torso to a five-foot woman's torso and Shaq's torso, it's not gonna match. Do you think Shaq got a tall torso? Does he have long legs? He has a, he has a longer torso than a, than a woman. Your torso and my torso aren't that far off. Our legs are different because that's what people [ __ ] are you serious? I gotta explain. I just, I know. So you stick it. You see your leg. You see my legs. It's a spice bigger. Exactly, right? But our torso is the same. But look at my head. My head is over. Your torsos are not far off. Your body and your torso, you don't see my [ __ ] long torso. Yes. Michael Phelps has a long torso. Michael Phelps arms get past his knees. He's a different. It doesn't [ __ ] show. He's different. He's [ __ ] different. Okay. So, but section 101, what, what about picking a girl up? You seen Baby Boy? Then Reigns with the, with the, with the [ __ ] squat. Yeah. He was waiting on this all day. Yeah. Could you make a squat? Because I don't know if you could pick a girl up and do that and jump around the house. I don't know. Like, imagine if you make the choice. Yeah. At that point, you're no longer having sex. You're bored. You, you have nothing to do with your time. You never did that. You said I was gonna hop around. By the way, probably one of the stupidest things I've seen in my life. Okay. I don't know how your knees are. I'm 43. I have a hard time. I had a hard time. Yeah. He had 17 knee surgeries. Are you squat at the age of 40? Who ain't nobody doing that? And if you do, I want to see. I want to know what knees you guys. Maybe he had to do it at the nudist colony because somebody else was short out. I put a knee brace on. I believe I just don't know. All I had on was a sleeves. I'll be 39 here in a couple months. 39. Yeah. 39. Squad. They just look way older. Yeah. We got a Philly pivot, man, because y'all are in the same territory right now. That's his [ __ ]. But growing up in Philly, like, take us back, man. Uh, how do we get there? By the way, but it's gonna be great, no matter what. Yeah. But you gotta understand, you can't let [ __ ] like that fly. Like he just, when somebody randomly says things that, that a little out of this, you gotta, you gotta. What do you, what do you mean by that? You have to make people explain certain things just so you know they hear it. You know what I did have a question by that? Because I got caught up in the squad. What, um, the, the, who can, who can regulate your jokes? That's what, that's what the whole sex colony question was. Who can regulate my job? Because is it your boys? Is your manager? Is your wife? Because my wife, that was the thing. When I started talking about the sex stuff on this show, when I started talking about the sex stuff and talking about me and my wife and I play kids. Imagine. And I play dog porch and he dresses as a kitten and she comes out and she comes against me when it's raining because I'm wet and she'll come get me from the door and [ __ ] and I like scratch on the door and she'll open it up like an old woman and she'll bring me in the house. Yeah. And she'll have a little bowl of milk. Like, we, we have a good time. That's not a good time. You're sick. But like, when I started telling those stories, my wife got mad and it kind of ran me. Like, she, she's the only one in the world that can make me not tell a joke. Yeah. And the sensitivity with, with comedy right now. He was like, I don't like what you're doing. You shouldn't be talking like that about me. Yeah. I'm not comfortable with that. And so I stopped it for a while. Is there anybody that, like, is there anybody in the world that regulates or stops your jokes? I kind of feel like you, you just could have said that. I feel like I do. I feel like he just, you just could have said, Kevin, when it comes to your jokes, is there anybody in your household or around that can so make a decision? You know, stop. We didn't. I didn't need to know none. Everything he said, if I could get that piece of my life back, I would. If you could tell me I could go back seven minutes and get that back, I'll sign up right now. Right. Uh, listen, when it comes to the understanding of sensitivity, uh, I did overlook it for quite some time. You know, um, I talk about my family, uh, you know, vividly. We, we at, not we meet, I've said things, I've put things out there and, you know, my daughter checked me. My daughter's 17. My daughter had a talk with me and she was like, Dad, you know, I'm at a point now where I go to school and I don't want to be the conversation of, or I don't want to be the punchline because at school, that can go and grow into blah, blah, blah. And it was an argument. I respected her for her stance, her maturity. I said, moving forward, honey, I won't do it. And I said, I'm, I'm glad that you said that because I never thought of it that way. And, you know, same thing with ex-wife's son, wife, like, it's, it's, it's a thing. So you got to be conscious of it all. Um, yeah, you're in a, we're in a sensitive time where you got to be aware of others' feelings and, you know, the context of what you say and how you say it. But comedy doesn't die. You can still be true to you. You can still perfect your craft and do it at a high level. You're just more aware. So I'm more aware and I have been, but, you know, it's, it's unfortunately just within time comes change, right? I'm not fighting to change. I'm not, I'm not here to, uh, take a stance of, or do the, the unthinkable. That's not who I am or what I am. Um, and for those that matter, that are close around me, you know, I make sure their presence is felt when they needed to be. My daughter needed it to be. Sorry. It's easy. Change is that the difficult part? The, the joke parts or when we talked about living your life very publicly? And I think the thing that has made me a, a bigger fan of you, not just your talent, is your honesty. Yeah. Right? Like so many people, because you did become the family man, right? You did become the family man. And so many people try to only let the world in on that. And now that I'm having an issue, I'm going to close up. And you and your wife spoke very vividly about the struggles you know, you guys have dealt with. Yeah. Is that when you do speak publicly about those things, you know, what I made a mistake and I'm trying to make up to my wife for this mistake I've made. I want to be better. Well, here's, here's the thing. Like, even within these questions, it's, it's not groundbreaking to understand that if a man [ __ ] up, he wants to write his role. Right? This isn't, but not, we're not talking about [ __ ] algebra. We're not talking about the hardest problem to. We, we're talking about something that should be common sense. Right? Damn, I gotta make it right. What? That's life. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do. And by the way, everybody thinks they're invincible. And so they realize they're not. Right? You really want to break it down to you? Nobody prepares you for the higher levels of success. Nobody gives you a book. You don't get a pamphlet. Here's fame and here's how to operate in it. I'm a part of a very small percentage. You know, the crazy thing about the percentage that I'm on is only a few see from this POV. Well, with the other 98 percent, you see from that POV. Well, I've seen from both. I've been in the 98 and I'm now part of the one percent. You don't see from my side. That's even yours. Am I? You don't. So the POV from the outside to the end, well, it doesn't go the door doesn't go around completely. It's one-sided. So why would our fight or argue? Is that where you get the, I, I can't believe it? Like you said earlier, like, oh, oh my God, like he stepped out. Like I can't believe he's like, what are we talking about? Some debates aren't worth, aren't worth debating about. Hoes had some [ __ ] to me. It was so great. He said in the interview one time, he was like, you know, we are, you with a fool from afar. Nobody knows who the fool is because they're just here. Because you both, but you both look like a fool. Somebody argue with a fool and you're on the outside. Y'all both doing this right here from afar, you both look like the fool. I don't know who's right or who's wrong. So some things aren't worth discussions. Some things are. Yeah. You can process it how you want. Okay. I'm all right. I'll be okay. My concern is here. I focus over here. If I get this right. What was your childhood like, uh, coming up in Philly? So many, so many other [ __ ] folk for real. No. Okay. I mean, I want to get into it, but it's so many great, um, so I feel the moment to get into it. It's on a great, uh, entertainers. I mean, musically, sports, you know, um, from Cunningham, a lot of great Philadelphia Eagles team, Sixers, Barclay back in the day. Um, what inspired you? Like, local legends? Local? I mean, I list is long. I mean, you said two and I really feel like you cheated us. You could have, you could have went, you could have went a lot further. Not really. Not really. So two, you can go AI, you want to go Dr. J, you want to go Barclay, you want to go pay the best. Yeah. You want to go music, The Soul Child, you want to go Will Smith. I mean, you can literally go down a list of what's come out of Philadelphia, uh, talent, um, creative. We are a, we are a city. We breed them right. We've done so. We will continue to do so. Um, I think the dopest thing about Philadelphia, just understanding that it's a hard city to be in, period. Um, and it's a hard city to make it out of. But we're a city that when we love you, we love you. When we love you, we love you. You, you, you can't do no wrong. And in Philadelphia, I'm, I say this and I mean it, there's no embrace better. There's no embrace better. It's a rough city, man. We're a rough [ __ ] city. Where's your face? Your favorite rapper? I mean, we had a, we had a great moment, man. I'm, I'm gonna be honest with you. Beanie Sigel, Beanie Siegel, Freeway. He was a beanie. I don't want to say he was. I hate saying was. Beanie, May Philadelphia realize that other people were watching us, right? Like when they signed Beans and Beans was rolling with Beans. Had, um, Beans created the labor. We saw them watch us, right? They know, right? Like you see the way Meek move now. Like, you know, people watch us. We, we're a conversation of our own. We are a, we are a breed of our own. Yeah. From style, from personnel, language, you know, we, we're a city that can stand on. We can be identified. Are you from Philly? Look at that beard. You're from Philly. Got the temps on with the guy. That's Philly. He just got the bridge on. Like, we have, we have signature things that are attached. And I think, you know, those are, those are culture, culture-specific things that you don't lose. You, you hold on to. So, you know, my love for my city is never going away. It's only going to grow. And I'm, I'm defined by that. Right? International superstar, bro. World, universe wise superstar. You said it great. Dad, great husband. Like everything you do. Your insecurities right now. What? Like, what? When you sit, chill in the shower, like, do you have any insecurities right now, bro? You know, you got money. Like, like, you're good. Yeah. But what's your insecurities right now? I don't know why. I don't know why you have to make me naked. I think because, yeah, what are you thinking? I was gonna ask you about the Tommy Hilfiger, uh, photo shoot. Yeah. I just want to help you. Just, just for the show. If you're making it, if you're shooting draws, do you meet up before? Do you meet up a little bit? Get some blood flow? No. I just want you to know that, yeah, the same question. It's the exact same questions can be asked without, without any of it. You could just say, Kev, hey man, are there anything, anything bothering you? Any insecurities that you're having currently today? You don't need the shower. You didn't need a shower. I was trying to do like when you're by yourself, you just say, when you're by yourself, you just say that. Okay. By yourself. Have you ever thought? It's quick. It's easier. Uh, but maybe so that, you know, as you in this space for you, I just want you to understand. Same question. Um, I don't, I don't have. I don't want to say I don't have. I have to. I don't, I don't have insecurities. I mean, I don't care enough to be insecure about. Like, I don't, like, I'm not bothered. Life is a dude. Life is too dope. It's too dope. It is not promised. Caring about the [ __ ] that you can't control that should have killed you. The mind, the one thing that the pandemic showed the world is that an idle mind is dangerous. Like literally sitting with nothing to do and just conjuring up or thinking all day. Like, we, we didn't know the world of anxiety. We didn't know the world of mental health and how like real it was until pandemic. Or little pre-pandemic, it really was like, oh [ __ ]. Oh, people are really going through. Oh, this is, this is real. I don't, I don't give myself an opportunity to battle me with my thoughts about me. I can't. I've never done that. Into the people that do do that, are that are going through that, I understand what that world of pain and what that thing can be. So it's not a knock to it at all. I'm never putting myself in that position. I never have. So the things that would deem to be insecurities are, you know, you're talking about minor. I mean, I got a, got a black toenail at one point. I wasn't taking all my socks. But then now that gives me the toenail, the pinky. Yeah. I don't want to tell you. I want to see. No, I don't want to say that's why I didn't want to. I knew you would say, hey man, listen, before, amen, before before Chance try to get you naked. I love getting opportunity, uh, to do this. But we understand that the most important thing a person can give you is their time. Yes. And we also understand and not everybody's time is worth the exact same amount. We know how much your time is worth. We know how much, uh, your space is worth. And for you to give us this time, it's truly, uh, the largest honor of this show. Um, I've been around you before. I've never been around you, uh, in this space. I hope that people really understand that we got a piece of, of Kevin Hart, not just the entertainer, not just the mogul, but the human. And for us, we are truly blessed. I mean, thank you so much for sitting down, bro. It was truly a reality check for us. And that's dope. Look, I mean, it when I say it, like, I, I [ __ ] with what you're doing. But I'm, I want to see people win. I want to see people win. And if we can continue to find real examples of supporting one another, especially within our culture, we can, we can really define moments where, like, we're helping to elevate, amplify. That [ __ ] is contagious after a while. Got no choice but to follow suit. Um, I watched the Michael Beasley episode. [ __ ] strong. Like when you, like, when you're in that environment and you're getting, you're, you're getting things that you're pushing out, but that are real care moments, real, real gift [ __ ] moments. Well, those are things that you want to see people see more of. So, uh, I hope that this put you in a position to, to get more, gain more. And it's not forced, right? Hey, this ain't a chore. Yeah. I'm not like, I didn't go do this dumb [ __ ]. Here we go. It's [ __ ] good. So shout out to y'all. Keep it up. Um, appreciate it. I don't know, uh, the world of what you do. But I'm gonna, or what you have, but I assume that this is your sponsor. Uh, good [ __ ]. Get your money however you can. I love the people that [ __ ] with you. Um, I'll send you out of the case just for you guys. In life also too, one last question though. Are you gonna actually be, are the Eagles gonna be good enough for you to get denied walking to the stage again? I'm sorry. He was over there though. He was there. I could have, yeah. The thing is, I was only there to get the trophy. The trophy went by. I didn't see it. The trophy. It literally, they brought it this way and I was turned. And I told my wife, I was like, I'll be back. I'm going to, I wanted to see the trophy so I can get a picture. They [ __ ] walk right. If I had been turned this way, I wouldn't have got denied because I would have had the trophy there. Uh, she might go to camp this year, man. You want us to tell him anything for you? We got a training camp tour. If the Eagles had no problem getting to the stage, okay, it's Philadelphia. Okay. That's where I was [ __ ] Minnesota. That that cold [ __ ] place. Okay. It's a lot. It's a lot that went to that moment. That hand on the chest. It hurt me for a while. Why didn't you hit him with? I'm putting a strong hand on my chest. Look me in the eye. He told me flat out, Kevin, you're drunk. No, nothing. All right. I remember going, all right, turn around. You know why I was drunk? Because the tequila I was drinking wasn't Grand Core Meño on it. It's not a commercial. Boy, oh boy. Nothing better than a cristalino. That comes from a place of love. Grand Core Meño celebrates your journey, hard work. Tastes different. And Meño Lino took me four years to make this. We don't know what a cristalino is. I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's a clear reposado. That Meño Lino gets them. That's not a commercial. Hell of a sale. Yeah. Appreciate it, bro. We gotta go on vacation together. The white repo. That's crazy. What gives me a different space. [Music] Uh, [Music] [Music]