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It's crazy, and it makes you go, "Well, who really is in charge? Who really is," you know? There are conspiracy theories, of course, about who really rules the country or the world. Did you get any, any inkling into that, like the Deep State? What is the Deep State? I think, look, I don't think there is a conspiracy of people trying to orchestrate the British government. But what, what there is is a severe case of groupthink. Okay? It's very influenced; it was influenced by the EU, when we remember, is now influenced by the sort of the, you, you might call it the Davos Elite. But, you know, the acceptable thinking amongst people in corporations, people in government departments, people in the mainstream media, the US State Department. You, when you see what's coming out of US Aid and the projects they're funding, that is a sort of, that is the way this thing operates. But it doesn't operate by a single person in a dark room, you know, with puppet strings. It is a, it's been a takeover of Western democracies by an elite group of technocrats who think they know best and have bought into, I think, the climate change Net Zero ideologies are, you know, a part of that. They bought into the transgender ideology. You know, it was unacceptable a few years ago to say, "Well, actually, these, these men are not women; they're actually men." But that, so that kind of spreading of bad ideas has been enabled by the British State because it's so opaque and it's so unaccountable, yeah, that it's very hard to actually get to the bottom of what is going on. And if you're, I was Minister for Women and Equalities, and even getting to the bottom of who was behind putting things forward there was really hard. And you can spend a lot of time as a minister trying to investigate just your own area of operation. So what is going on in the Home Office or what is going on in the South Yorkshire Police force is a million miles away.
That's really interesting and scary. I'm pleased you say that about the Puppet Masters because that's, that's my belief as well. And a lot of, probably a certain percentage of my viewers probably do go for the conspiracy stuff. And I think they underestimate how strong ideology is on, on just average normal people who can really go, you know, end up thinking a man, yeah, can just sort of put his willy away and now he's a woman or something. Just defies common sense; it's really bonkers. But, but there's a lot of evidence that the clever, clever people are, the better they are at justifying, they're absolutely impossible because they have very good skills of rationalization. And we've seen, we've seen whole parts of the British Elite being able to rationalize truly bizarre things. Yeah, that, that the gender thing was mad. And the idea that, that we don't have a bit of an immigration problem is, is seems mad. Is, is there also this situation that we've got an aging population, so we have to have a lot of immigrants to support that, older, for Workforce to support older people who are not working anymore? And where do you get them from? And that's, that's why we have this immigration situation.
Well, it's certainly, we started off talking about the Treasury and the Bank of England and their worldview, and that is their worldview. Their worldview is Britain, Britain can't really get more productive; it doesn't really matter if tax rates are high; it's not going to affect what people do. And the only way that we can shore up the economy is by importing more people. Now what's been shown is not only does that make everybody in Britain worse off because the GDP per capita is going down, even if the overall GDP is going up, the amount per head is going down, but even the GDP is not being boosted by immigration overall, because lots of people have been brought in who don't work or who are low-skilled. So it's definitely the way the economic models work that are produced by the Office of Budget Responsibility and the Treasury and the Bank of England; that is their belief system. But I believe it is wrong, and they set that belief system and those models independently of political judgment, and that is a huge problem. Because if a future government comes in and says, "We want to drastically reduce immigration," the Treasury will say, or the OB will say, "Okay, there's less money to spend on the Health Service," even though they're wrong. Yeah, their model, their model prevails. And, you know, the difficulty we have as well is that with a, you know, a housing crisis where people can't afford to buy a house, with everything getting more expensive in Britain, it's harder and harder to start a family. So you have more immigration puts more pressure on things like housing, which makes it harder for the British population to have a family. So it's a, it's a vicious cycle, vicious cycle. Maybe support the, the, the mega-rich who maybe want their services to be cheaper if, if immigrants come in and maybe work for less money. I think that, that may or may not be true to some extent, but I think it has been, it's been driven by, partly by short-termist Treasury economics which haven't proved to be true; they've proved to be the opposite. We've had, you know, we've had 30 years of stagnation, which is the thing that I was trying to solve. But it's also driven by this globalist philosophy of, "We should care equally about any human being, regardless of whether they're from Afghanistan, Somalia, or Britain." Now I believe it's the British government's job to look after British people, yeah, not to worry about everybody in the world. But if you look at, you know, K Dmer and his, his sort of human rights lawyer approach to, to the world, you know, he and his friend Hermer spent all their time working for people, organizations outside the UK, because, because that is their belief. You know, they don't believe that their main job is looking after the British people; they believe their job is giving reparations to the Caribbean or, you know, worrying about the human rights of, uh, people in Afghanistan. And, and that is just a, they're just completely disjointed from what most people in Britain actually think.