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[Music] [Music] Look, there is a rule in the world, the principle of cause and effect. Yes, what did you say? The person who understands this principle of cause and effect will not get trapped in such superstitions and hypocrisies. So, understand that principle. Cause is that without which an effect cannot happen. Say, without which an effect cannot happen, and with its presence, it happens, that is called a cause. For example, if there is fire, bread will cook. If there is no fire, bread will not cook. So, fire is the cause of cooking bread. Is this example understood? Yes. If there is fire in the stove, then bread can cook, and if the gas runs out, the fire is gone, it cannot burn, then bread will not cook. So, that which causes something to happen and not happen is called a cause. [Clears throat sound] If there are bricks, stones, lime, and cement, a house will be built. If there are no bricks, stones, lime, and cement, it will not be built. So, bricks, stones, lime, and cement will be considered the cause of building a house. Is this point correct? So, all the truth in the world rests on this principle of cause and effect. Whenever it rains, it will rain from the clouds. Can it rain without clouds? No. If it rains even without clouds, then clouds will not be considered the cause of rain. If bread cooks without fire, then fire will not be considered the cause. Therefore, the identification of a cause is that without it, the effect will not happen. If there is fire, bread will cook; if there is no fire, it will not cook. Therefore, fire is the cause. Now, there was a person making bread in the forest. There was fire, there was a griddle, and bread was cooking. A donkey was standing nearby. Hey, come, come, come, come, the person who was cooking in the forest. Om, the person who was cooking in the forest, there was fire, there was a griddle, and he was making bread on it. A donkey was also standing nearby. So, a child came from outside. He saw that bread was being made here and a donkey was also standing. Okay? Then he went to another place. There he saw that bread was being made. There was fire, but no donkey was standing. Here, bread was being made without a donkey. So, in one place, when bread was being made, he saw the donkey along with it. In another place, when bread was being made, the donkey was not there. So, should the donkey be considered the cause of bread or not? No. The work is happening without it. So, if the work happens without something, it means it is not the cause. Now, the incident you narrated about Mount Abu, where a gentleman, a businessman, went to a temple, and the path was broken. And there, he made a vow that if I get a child. He prayed to God like this, "O God, let me have a child," and he did. So, all those people who want children, suppose 100 people go there, will everyone get a child by praying in that temple? Not necessarily. So, if it doesn't happen, then it's not the cause. If bread cooks even without fire, then fire is not the cause, right? Bread cooks when there is fire, and it also cooks when there is no fire. Like the example of the donkey I gave. The donkey was standing, and bread was being made. The donkey was not there, and bread was being made. So, it means the donkey is not the cause of cooking bread. So, even by going to the temple, children are being born, and for those who are not going, children are also being born. Are all those whose children are being born going to the temple? So, it is happening even without going there, isn't it? So, what does this mean? That children are not born by going to the temple and praying. It is not its cause. The reason that gentleman got a child is something else. Just as the donkey is not the cause of cooking bread. Its cause is fire. Fire will be found everywhere. Wherever bread is made, bread will not cook without fire. This is the rule. So, from this, it is understood that fire is the cause of cooking bread. This is called the cause-and-effect principle. So, wherever you go in the world, whatever incident you see, check it with the cause-and-effect principle. Tying a thread around trees, circumambulating them, getting a job, having children, winning a lawsuit. Is there any cause-and-effect relationship with winning a lawsuit? Yes or no. Therefore, it is a lie, hypocrisy, superstition. So, circumambulating trees, circumambulating graves or shrines, offering sheets at shrines will not get you a job. There is no connection with it. Therefore, all that is false. It is an illusion. Okay? Yes. It is something else. Find that cause. The cause that is related to that event is the cause. A person was walking in Ghatkopar, Mumbai. Okay? And in Delhi, a crow sat on a tree, and at the same time the crow sat at 12:00 PM, at the same time the person in Ghatkopar fell and died while walking on the road. He had a heart attack and died. So, someone said that this crow sitting on the tree in Delhi is the reason he died. Is that logical for the person in Mumbai? A crow sits on a tree in Delhi, and a man dies walking on the road in Mumbai. What is the connection between these two events? So, where there is no connection between two events, the principle of cause and effect does not apply. So, there are 50 such illusions. Someone is going to Balaji Tirupati. They are getting their hair cut there. Their wish is fulfilled. How many people go there? They do go. They get their hair cut and they do business worth crores of rupees from it. Those devotees who donate their hair there, the temple people export it and earn crores of rupees. So, these are many illusions. Somewhere, going to a temple, some deity does not listen to you. It is a deity of mud, a lifeless deity. It does not understand you. What will it fulfill? A priest of the Balaji Tirupati temple told me this. I am telling you the truth. I myself went there to see. To see the darshan, meaning to visit. I went for a walk. To observe what happens in the temple. Why is there so much crowd? Why is there such a long queue? It is superstition and hypocrisy. So, I asked the priest there. I said, "Pandit ji, there is a long queue here. A lot of crowd comes. A lot of donations are received. So, does your deity Balaji fulfill their wishes?" He said, "No." So, I said, "Then why does so much crowd come?" So, the priest said, "The public is foolish. We are taking advantage of their foolishness." This is what he said. "The public is foolish. We are taking advantage of their foolishness. Our Balaji is a deity of mud. It doesn't listen, doesn't understand. What will it fulfill?" So, I said, "Then how are wishes being fulfilled? Many people's wishes are fulfilled." He said, "Yes, they are." So, how? So, the priest there explained. That day he was in a good mood. He told me everything openly. I said, "Then how are people's wishes fulfilled?" He said, "There is a rule in mathematics, the law of probability." Right? Yes. The law of probability. The law of possibility. So, he said, "Have you studied math?" I said, "Yes, a little." So, there is a rule in math, the law of probability. I said, "Yes, there is. I know that." He said, "What does it mean?" I said, "It means that if 100 students appear for an exam, 50 will pass anyway. Right, Lalchand ji? 50 will pass anyway. This is the probability of 50. Some do study, don't they? Not everyone is foolish. Not everyone is illiterate. Not everyone is lazy. Some do study. So, if 100 people take the exam, 50 will pass." So, suppose an astrologer tells them, "Your future is very good. You will pass." He will tell this to all 100 people. So, will all 100 fail? I said, "No, all 100 will not fail. 50-60 will pass anyway." So, he said, "Did those 50-60 who passed pass because the astrologer said so, or because they worked hard in their studies?" Tell me. Those who worked hard passed. Those who didn't, failed. So, 50-60 will pass anyway. This is the law of probability. So, he said, "Suppose 100 people come here. At our temple, everyone leaves their wishes. They make vows. Someone's son is about to take an exam. Someone's lawsuit is ongoing. Someone is not getting a job. Someone is not getting married. Everyone leaves their wishes." So, will they do some work after going home or not? For the fulfillment of their task. I said, "Yes, they will." So, will all 100 fail? I said, "No, 100 will not fail. 50-60 will pass anyway." So, their work will be accomplished. So, he said, "How will that happen?" I said, "Through their hard work." He said, "Yes, you understood correctly." So, those 100 people who go home after making a vow here, they will work, they will strive, and out of 100, the work of 50-60 will be done. It will be done by their hard work, and credit will go to our deity of mud. This is the foolishness of the public. This is what he said. The task was accomplished due to what? Hard work. The hard work of those people. And who got the credit? This deity of mud. He said, "This is the foolishness of the public. We are taking advantage of it. People think that their task was accomplished by the blessings of our deity of mud. Whereas it was done by their hard work." So, suppose out of 100, the work of 50-60 was accomplished who went there after making a vow, then those 50 have become our sure customers, haven't they? They will come next time and offer a lot of donations. I said, "They will definitely come then." He said, "The matter doesn't end here, it goes further." I said, "What else?" He said, "Those 50 people, each person will spread the word to 10 people, saying that Balaji deity is very good, gives great blessings. The blessings there are successful. See, our work was done. You also come." Each person will spread the word to 10 people, so our publicity has increased to 500. Then he will forcefully bring two or three people along. Those who are their close friends, their close associates, he will forcefully drag them along, saying, "See, just come with us once. Balaji will also pay for your fare." Just come with us once. So, each person will forcefully bring three people along. Those 50 who failed, they failed. No problem, no worries about them. Those 50 who passed, whose work was accomplished, each of them will bring three people along. So, 50 of them and three each, that's 150, and one person will bring three people, so 50 people will bring how many? 150 more. 50 and 150, how many? Last year how many came? 100. This year how many came? 200. This is how our numbers double, and donations are received, and the number keeps increasing. This is the foolishness of the public. We are taking advantage of it. The story of Balaji Tirupati is the same for all temples worldwide. Whether it is on Mount Abu, or the Hanuman temple in Connaught Place, Delhi, or any other, whether it is in Mumbai, Kalbadevi temple, any temple. The story is the same for all temples. Law of probability, the law of possibility. You must have understood my point. So, for this reason, people's wishes are fulfilled. It is by their own hard work. Nothing happens by the blessings of those deities. A sentence from Maharshi Dayanand ji comes to mind. He wrote somewhere in Satyarth Prakash, something like this, that he said, "Go to such and such a temple. By the blessings of that deity, you will have children." So, Maharshi Dayanand ji said, "Oh, by the blessings of that deity, you get children. Then by the blessings of which deity do cats, donkeys, and dogs have offspring?" They don't go to any temple. They are praying for offspring there. [Laughter] By the blessings of which deity do cats, donkeys, and dogs have offspring? They are having them without it. So, this means it is not the cause. That without which it does not happen is the cause, and that without which the work happens, and it also happens with its presence and without its presence, then it is not the cause. So, just remember this rule, the cause-and-effect principle, and you will not get trapped in any illusion. You will not get trapped in superstition. You will not get trapped in hypocrisy. Everything will become clear to you. So, these are all hypocritical programs. Offer sheets at shrines, circumambulate shrines, tie threads around trees. These are all hypocrites. Let's look at the next sutra. So, this was our 15th. Now look at the 16th sutra. Say, "Na cha ek chit tantram vastu tad apramanakam tatha kim syat" Another peculiar purvapakshi, that purvapakshi, that is, the purvapakshi's thought. The purvapakshi's thought is that the object that is visible in front of you, the chair visible in front of you, the utensils. This object that you see, it has no existence of its own. Then why is it visible? When it has no existence, then the purvapakshi says that you have thought that there is a chair in front. Therefore, you see a chair. You thought of utensils, so you see utensils. You thought of a clock, so you see a clock. The object will appear as you think. The object has no existence of its own. Only by your thought are all these things visible to you. This is his principle. So, the answer to this is given in this sutra in the siddhanta paksha, the answer to the purvapakshi. "Na cha ek chit tantram vastu." Purvapakshi ji, you are saying that this is only because we have thought in our minds that there is a clock in front, so the clock is visible. There is a fan, so the fan is visible. The object arises from our thought. It has no existence of its own. So, if this is correct, if this is true, that the object appears and is visible only from our thought, and in reality, it has no existence of its own. If this is the case, then suppose I look at the chair for 10 seconds. I will look, I will think, and the chair will be visible. And suppose I move my gaze away and look at the wall. Then, according to your thought, the object was there. Now I have removed the thought from there, so now tell me, will the chair remain there or not? It will remain. So, your statement makes no difference. If the object is imagined by my thought, then it should exist as long as I think about it. When I stop thinking about it and move my gaze away, then that object should disappear. If it was created by my thought, then this is not happening. [Clears throat sound] I look at it, I think, and the chair is there. And I don't look at it. No one thinks about it, and it is still there. What does this prove? Is it an imagination of my thought, or does the chair have its own real existence? So, this is the answer. This is being said in the sutra: "Na cha ek chit tantram vastu." Whatever object you see, be it a table, chair, scooter, utensil, book, whatever, it is not dependent on a single mind. Chit tantram, not dependent on the mind. That is, not dependent on our thought. If we think, it appears, and if we don't think, it doesn't appear. This is not the case. Tad apramanakam. If I do not see that thing with my eyes, tada kim syat. Then what will happen? Will the object remain or not? This objection is raised by the siddhanta. If I do not see that thing, will the object remain or not? If it remains, then it means that the object did not arise from my thought. It stands by its own existence. It has its own independent existence. And suppose there are two people. Me and Lalchand ji. I see that chair. Lalchand ji also sees it. Both see it. So, I looked for 10 seconds. Then I moved my gaze away. But Lalchand ji is still looking. He is looking for 1 minute. I looked for 10 seconds. When I looked for 10 seconds and moved my gaze away, then tell me, what will happen to the chair? Will the chair remain or not? If it remains, then it stands by its own existence, not by my thought. Because your rule was, if I look, it will be there. Now I am not looking, so it should not be there. However, Lalchand ji is looking, so it is there. So, it makes no difference whether I look or not. The object is, it is. So, this is the Vedic principle. The object will remain as it is in its own nature. Whether you see it, don't see it, believe it or not, that's your headache. That's your problem. The object will remain as it is. Now, according to this rule, God will remain as He is. You keep thinking whatever you want in your mind. He will not change by your thinking. Is God inert or conscious? Now, if someone considers an inert object as God, will it become God? It will not. And if God is conscious, and someone considers Him inert, then He will not be inert. So, this is the principle that it makes no difference whether we believe or not. The object is as it is. So, wisdom lies in accepting the object exactly as it is. This is understanding. Because if you understand it correctly, know it correctly, then you can benefit from it properly and avoid the harm caused by it. If you understand the object correctly, then by understanding its qualities and actions correctly, you can also gain benefits from it and avoid the harm caused by it. For example, let's take fire. Is fire hot or cold? Hot. If you understand fire correctly, that fire is hot. You should keep your hand away from it. Otherwise, you will get burned. If you know it correctly, you will keep your hand away from the fire. Your hand will remain safe. And if you understood that it is cold. It is as cold as water, then you will put your hand in it, and your hand will get burned. Will you suffer a loss or not? Therefore, wisdom lies in knowing things as they are. Know God as He is. Then you will be well. You will do the right thing. You will gain the right benefit. If God is something, and you understand something else, believe something else, then you will act accordingly, and you will suffer a loss. Just as you did not understand fire correctly, you suffered a loss from it. Fire is hot, you did not accept it as hot, so you suffered a loss. You burned your hand. Similarly, will God forgive our sins? Yes. And how many people believe that God will forgive our sins? Do they believe it or not? They believe wrongly, don't they? Now, they will suffer losses from this. What do they believe? God will surely forgive our sins. So, why not commit them? Therefore, they commit sins day and night without hesitation. Because this illusion is in their minds. God will surely forgive. So, why not commit them? Therefore, they are committing sins. Whereas God will not forgive. Now they will suffer the punishment. So, therefore, the Vedic principle is: Know things as they are, believe them as they are, write them as they are, speak them as they are, act as they are. This is truth. Welfare comes from truth, not from lies. Say. We are okay. We are okay. What is consecration? How does it proceed? So, those who perform consecration in idols, they pretend that today we have performed consecration in this, now it has become a deity, God, now you can worship it, you will get blessings, your welfare will be achieved. Like that, they...
They say this is a lie. No person has the power to consecrate life into an inanimate idol. No one does. How will we understand this? Listen to an example. The person who claims, "I can consecrate life into an inanimate idol and then make it conscious." Suppose his mother, who is 20-30 years older than him, died at the age of 80. His mother died at the age of 80. So we will ask him, "Now, consecrate life back into your mother's body." Will he be able to do it? Why? Where has your power gone now? You can consecrate life into an idol that has never had life for even a day, but you cannot do it for your mother's body, in which life breathed for 80 years. So how will you do it for an idol in which life never breathed for even a day? Did you understand my point? Therefore, all this is hypocrisy, lies, deception, and business. One should avoid it. Okay, I am saying the same thing again. These people will not mend their ways. Talk about yourself. Do you want to mend your ways or not? Just understand for yourself that yes, this is hypocrisy. I don't want to get caught in this. If you go to reform them, they will not reform. Instead, they will argue with you. So, do not argue. Just protect yourself. And tell your two or four people, friends, acquaintances, "Brother, this is how it is." If they understand, they will also be saved. If not, so be it. Do not argue. Do not force. We do this at home, right? So explain to them. If they don't understand, leave it. Do not argue. Do not argue. Whether it is at home, in the neighborhood, with friends, acquaintances, anyone. Do not argue. If someone understands, explain. Now, these businessmen are sitting here. They sell their goods. Customers come to the shop. So they show their goods. "Look, sir, this is the variety. This is the cloth, this cloth, this cloth, this cloth." They show 20 types, 10 types of variety. If the customer likes it, they will buy it. Yes or no? And if they don't like it, will the businessman forcefully say, "Come, buy"? "It's compulsory, I will force it on you." If you don't buy the goods, I will force it on you. Is business done like this? Tell me. Is it done like this? No, brother. We showed our goods, you liked them, so take them. If you didn't like them, no problem. Our goods are with us, you go to your home, we go to our home. It's done like this, right? So tell your other friends that, "Brother, we believe this, we understand this, this is correct. It is proven by logic and evidence. If you understand, take our goods. And if you don't, there is no compulsion. We will not force. We will not force. If you don't understand, leave it. Do not argue. Okay." Moving on. So this was the point. "Tad uparaga apekshit chit tasya vasto jnaat ajnaatam." The object is not subject to the thought of a divided sect, an undivided sect, a single tantra. The object has its own existence. It stands by its own existence. Whether anyone sees it or not, the object will remain. If someone considers the object as it is, then it is fine. If you consider it otherwise, it is your loss. Nothing happens to the object. God is conscious. He sees everyone. He is watching and will judge everyone. This is the truth. If you want to understand this and benefit from it, then do so. If you don't want to understand, then it's fine. Keep doing things the wrong way. Then you will have to face punishment later. God will not spare anyone. He will not forgive anyone. So the object will remain as it is. Our thoughts will not make any difference. Okay, sir. So God, soul, and nature are the three main objects, the three main substances. So, if you understand these three objects as they are, you will benefit. Now let's look at the next sutra. So the existence of the object is proven. Radio, TV, computer, mobile phone, scooter, car, food, drink, every object exists in its own form. It is as it is. Now, the relationship of the soul with these objects is through consciousness. Because the soul, poor thing, is of limited power. It cannot see objects directly. It cannot eat, cannot drink, cannot do anything directly. It needs the body, mind, senses, and intellect. So, what is told in the scriptures is that the method of deriving benefit from the substances of the world is this: the soul orders the mind, "I want to eat food." Now, the mind first orders the eyes to eat. "See what is in the plate? What is the food?" First, see. Then the mind orders the eyes. Then the eyes see what food is in the plate. After knowing, the information from the eyes comes to the mind, then from the mind to the soul. Then it sees, "Oh, these are the things. They are suitable for me, suitable." Then it orders the hand, "Pick it up, put it in your mouth." Its order, whatever it is, runs through the mind, through the mind. First, through the mind, see the objects with the eyes. Then, through the mind, order the hand, "Pick up the roti, pick up this dal, this vegetable, this sweet." Pick it up and put it in your mouth. Then the mind orders the hand, the hand picks up the object, and then puts it in the mouth. This is how the program runs. So, this point is being explained in this sutra. This is how the program runs. Eating, drinking, giving, taking, transactions, whatever. Sutra 17, please. "Tad uparaga apekshit chit tasya vasto jnaat ajnaatam." When the soul relates to external objects like food, it is through consciousness. As explained earlier, the soul orders consciousness. Consciousness then orders the senses. Then the senses work. So, it cannot happen without consciousness. Consciousness is a mediator in between. It's a medium in between. Here is the soul, here are the senses, in between is consciousness. Consciousness or mind are the same thing. Yes. Look again. Here is the soul, in the middle is the mind, then the senses, then the senses will do whatever they have to do. Hands, eyes, nose, ears, all senses work later. Here is the soul, in the middle is the mind. Then the senses. And the mind, its definition is written in Nyaya Darshan. The mind can do only one thing at a time. Not two, three, four together. The senses work with the help of the mind. The eyes see, the ears hear, the tongue speaks, the hand picks up objects, transacts. All these tasks are done by the senses. But they are not done without the help of the mind. And the mind does only one thing at a time. Therefore, it will prompt one sense at a time. But its speed is very fast. The speed of the mind is very fast. It quickly makes different senses work. It works so fast that we don't even realize. You work so quickly. Sometimes there is an illusion. We feel that many tasks are happening simultaneously. For example, you must have seen dancing on TV. Some dancers dance. Their hands move. This hand moves, the waist moves, the neck moves, the head moves, the feet move. You also hear the song. You also hear the beat of the tabla. All tasks seem to be happening at once. But they are not happening at once. They are happening one by one. The mind does one task at a time. Its speed is so fast that we don't know when which task was done. Which task was done first, which was done later. It works very fast. So now they are saying, "Jnaat ajnaatam." The object with which consciousness is related will be known. And the object with which consciousness is not related will become unknown. Did you understand this much? Because there are many senses. Eyes, nose, ears, five senses. Five sense organs of perception. Five sense organs of action. And the mind connects with them one by one. So, with which it connects, that will be known. From which the connection is cut, that will not be known. It will become unknown. There is one more thing to understand here. That is, because consciousness is an inanimate object. It is made of sattva, rajas, and tamas. Therefore, changes keep happening in it. For example, let's give a simple example. If you receive good news, happiness, then hearing it causes some different chemical changes in your body. Your body's glands secrete some good secretions, some good fluids that are beneficial for health. And when you hear bad news, a loss, then those glands react differently. Then some other chemicals are released, which cause harm. This is why people who are stressed get diabetes. Some glands in the body work differently. Physical changes occur in them, and some get acidity, some get diabetes, some get other problems. Some go into depression. Hearing such things, thinking such things, also affects the body. Does this happen or not? It happens, right? So all this happens in those things that are physical substances, that are made of sattva, rajas, and tamas, inanimate objects. They are adversely affected by it. So the mind, consciousness, is also a physical substance. It is also made of nature, made of sattva, rajas, and tamas. So when a good scene is seen by any sense organ, the state of consciousness changes. Sattva guna fills it. When good news is heard, a good thing is seen, a good scene is seen, then changes also occur in consciousness. At that time, sattva guna emerges. Rajas guna and tamas guna are suppressed. And when a bad scene is seen, bad things are heard, things of loss, harm, then rajas guna and tamas guna fill it, and sattva guna is suppressed. These changes occur. Okay? Consciousness is a physical substance. It is made of sattva, rajas, and tamas. It has three types of particles. So, according to the news of objects that consciousness receives. And it conveys it to the soul through the senses. In this process, various changes keep happening in it. This is called "parinami." What will we call it? Consciousness is "parinami." It undergoes results, changes, transformations. It has three particles. Because of this. So this point is also told in this sutra. So, listen to the entire essence of the sutra. "Tad uparaga apekshit." When the soul relates to any external object, the cooperation of consciousness is also necessary. Because of this, the object with which the soul relates comes to the soul through consciousness. So consciousness gets its information. And the object from which the soul's relation breaks, consciousness's relation with that object also breaks. That object becomes unknown. So it keeps becoming known and unknown. The object that consciousness sees will be known. The one it doesn't see will not be known. And according to the one it sees, there will also be a change in consciousness. Consciousness is "parinami." Changes keep happening in it. Sometimes sattva guna emerges, sometimes rajas guna emerges, sometimes tamas guna emerges. Okay? This is the essence of this sutra. Shall I proceed? Let's look at the next sutra. Please say. "Sadaa jnaataa chitavruttayah tat prabho purushasya aparinaamitvaa." This is the 18th sutra. It is being explained here. "Sadaa jnaataa chitavruttayah." The states of consciousness are always known to the soul. The soul has information about consciousness 24 hours a day. The soul sees different objects through consciousness. It hears different sounds. It performs different actions through different senses. So, it gets information about what it connects with. When the connection is cut, consciousness does not have information about it. This is the state of consciousness. But what is the state of the soul? The soul remains connected to consciousness 24 hours a day. It does not disconnect. Its race is only up to consciousness. It just keeps watching consciousness 24 hours a day. Whatever the connection of consciousness is with something else, the soul's connection with consciousness remains 24 hours. So, suppose you are awake for 17 hours a day, so you keep working for 17 hours. Whatever information comes to consciousness from whatever object, through whatever sense organ, the soul has information about that object for 17 hours. Now, for 7 hours, the person sleeps at night. Even during sleep, the soul's connection with consciousness remains active. The soul's connection remains active 24 hours. It remains active with external things for 17 hours. For seven hours, we sleep. We close down. External information stops. But the internal information of consciousness continues. During sleep, you experience happiness. Sometimes you experience sadness. When you have a good sleep, you wake up and say, "Wow, it was great! I had a good sleep today." Sometimes you say, "Today was great! I had a good sleep." This means that during the 7 hours of sleep at night, you experienced happiness. If you had not experienced happiness, how would you say in the morning, "I had a great sleep today"? The person who says, "I had a great sleep today," means they experienced happiness during sleep. This proves that even during sleep, your connection with consciousness was active. The connection with the outside through the senses was cut. Therefore, external information stopped. But the connection with consciousness from within was active, and it was being informed. Sometimes you don't get good sleep. Mosquitoes bite. It's summer season at night. The light goes out. The fan stops. Mosquitoes bite. Then you wake up and say, "Sir, it was not good today. It was not good today. I did not get happiness today. I just kept tossing and turning in distress. I did not get good sleep." That day, you experienced sadness during sleep at night. So in the morning, you say, "It was not good today. I did not get good sleep." So what does this mean? The soul's connection with consciousness remains active 24 hours a day. Whether it is awake, dreaming, or sleeping. We also dream at night, right? When we dream, the impressions are awakening in the mind, which are appearing to you in the form of dreams. So the soul's connection with consciousness is still active then. Whether it is the dream state, it is still active. The sleep state, it is still active. The waking state, it is still active. It is active 24 hours a day. Therefore, it is said, "Sadaa jnaataa chitavruttayah." The soul gets information about it 24 hours a day. It has a direct connection with consciousness. "Tat prabho purushasya." Purusha is the soul. It is the lord, the master of consciousness. Just as you are the owner of your car, the car is with you 24 hours a day. You can use it whenever you want, drive it wherever you want. It is your property, you bought it, paid for it, bought the car. Now the car is your servant. You can drive it wherever you want. So we have also paid God and bought consciousness. Well, it's not bought. It's on rent. Some people buy their own car. Some sit in a taxi. They get their work done by paying fare. They don't have enough money in their pocket to buy. So they get their work done by paying fare in a taxi. So we have given rent to God. God has given us a taxi, a consciousness taxi, on rent. What rent did we give? The rent of karma. We performed some karma, and God, based on our karma, gave us consciousness, intellect, body, senses. We have taken all these on rent. It's a taxi. It has many parts that work. So, when we have taken consciousness on rent from God, now we are sitting in the taxi, so the taxi will go wherever we want, right? For that duration, we have become its authority. For the duration for which we have paid the rent. So, in a way, we have taken consciousness, senses, mind, body, all these on rent from God. And now they work according to our will. So the soul keeps using consciousness according to its will. In this sense, "tat prabho" is used to mean the authority to use it. So Purusha is the authority of that consciousness. It uses consciousness according to its will 24 hours a day. Whether it is dreaming, sleeping, or waking, whatever it does, it has full authority. God has given complete freedom. And because Purusha is "aparinaami." What was said? "Purusha aparinaami." See, it is written in the sutra, "aparinaamitvaa." Purusha is "aparinaami." There is no transformation in it. No change occurs. Why doesn't it occur? Because the soul is particle-less. It has no pieces. No parts. Consciousness was particle-based. It had three particles: sattva, rajas, tamas. Therefore, changes occurred in it. Sometimes sattva predominant, sometimes rajas guna predominant, sometimes tamas guna predominant. So changes kept happening in consciousness. But the soul has no particles. Therefore, no change occurs in it. It always remains the same. If it receives good information, good news, it becomes happy. If it receives bad news, it becomes sad. It becomes happy and sad. Even then, there is no change in it. It's just that. Sometimes it feels good, sometimes bad. Sometimes it experiences happiness, sometimes sadness. Only these experiences change. The fundamental nature of the soul does not change. It remains as it is. So this is understood from the word "aparinaami." So, what is the essence of the entire sutra? That the soul is conscious. It remains connected to consciousness 24 hours a day. And it gets information about consciousness 24 hours a day. It is "aparinaami." It is particle-less. There is no physical change, increase, decrease, cutting, joining, melting, rotting, or any such distortion in it. This is about the soul. In consciousness, all this happens because the influence of particles and events keeps happening. There are ups and downs in it. Nothing happens in the soul. Okay, sir. Yes. Please say. Just like your car gets dented. If someone hits the car, it gets a dent, right? So consciousness is also affected. If someone tells you bad news that "he was saying this about you." See, your temper will flare up. You will get angry. Your mind will heat up. Your blood pressure will rise. Your hands and feet will start trembling. Now you don't know what you will say. See, is the change happening in an inanimate object or not? Just as the body is inanimate.
But change is happening. The mind is also inert, and it too will change. Okay. Yes, it is not. It has a little bit of Sattva guna. Without Sattva, no object is formed. Any object is made up of three types of atoms. Be it alcohol, egg, meat, from Mahat Tattva to all the substances of the entire creation, every object has all three gunas. Alcohol also has Sattva guna. 5%, 8%, 10%, 20% it has Rajas guna. And 70% Tamoguna. I am explaining in simple language for understanding. Tamoguna is dominant in it. So let's say it has 70% Tamoguna. It has 15-20% Rajas guna, and 10% Sattva guna in alcohol. So, there is 10% of it, right? If a person drinks for the first time, they won't like it. It will taste bitter, bad, tasteless. Then gradually, they will practice drinking it daily, they will practice. And when they gradually practice, they will learn to derive pleasure from that 10% Sattva guna. Even though it has 70% Tamoguna. They will suppress the effect of Tamoguna through their practice. They will also suppress the 20% effect of Rajas guna. They will awaken that 10% Sattva, and by drinking it, they will become so ecstatic. They will say, "Wow, the world looks colorful now." After drinking alcohol, the world appears colorful to them. So, in this way, through practice, they learn to derive pleasure from it. The same applies to opium, same to bhang, same to datura, same to all intoxicating substances; it's the same principle. There is always 5-10% Sattva guna in every object; no object is formed without a mixture of the three. Okay. Yes, please speak. Yes, it will be sad, but will any burden be reduced from the soul, will something start to decay in it, start to rot? No such change will happen in it. Because the possibility of decay and rot is not there. This decaying, rotting, spoiling, improving – this possibility exists in inert substances that have particles. The soul does not have particles. Therefore, it is unchanging; there is no increase, decrease, decay, rot, cutting, joining in it. But this happens in the mind because it has particles. Therefore, its states keep changing. Sometimes one guna will fill it, sometimes another guna. Those are according to circumstances. Yes, it will be sad. That is for sure. Its feeling is its own quality. If it receives bad news, it will be sad. If it receives good news, it will be happy. It will be happy, it will be sad. Nothing more than that will happen. That's all. Yes. It can also happen like this. It can happen up to a certain limit. The more the soul has knowledge of its true nature, what was said? The more it will control the mind and will not be sad. Even upon receiving bad news, there will be no sadness. It will control it. The soul can completely control mental sorrows. Based on its knowledge of its true nature. Just as an ordinary person gets angry over a small matter, their mind gets upset, their mood gets spoiled. So, a yogi, a person of true knowledge, a detached person, if you tell them a small thing, it will have no effect on them. They will control it. It will make no difference to them. Up to a certain limit, it will make no difference. And the higher their knowledge of their true nature becomes, the more they will be able to control it. Okay, it can manage mental things. But the body has a limit. It cannot control the body 100%. It can control the mental. For example, if someone has made a very serious false accusation against you, a terrible accusation, and has written letters against you and sent them all over the country, to 200-500 homes, and your knowledge of your true nature is very high, then it will not affect you. You will say, "Okay, let this mad, foolish person make false accusations without reason. What is it doing to me? I am not going to become like that because of what they say. I am who I am. Let them make accusations. My soul or I am not being harmed by their accusations." The only thing that will happen is that all the people to whom they spread lies and create misconceptions about me, those 200-500 people will turn against me. That's all that will happen. What more? It cannot harm my soul. They will stop this effect with their knowledge and science, their knowledge of their true nature. An ordinary person cannot stop it. They will say, "Why are they spreading such things about me? This is a terrible wicked person. I will beat them up. They are telling 500 people, I will tell 5000 people." They will get completely agitated, their mind will be disturbed. But the one who knows their true nature does not worry. They say, "No problem, let them speak. In this world, even Lord Rama was falsely accused. People said he sent his wife away from home at the word of a washerman. Tell me, is this true or a false accusation? It's false, isn't it? So, they didn't spare even Lord Rama. He was such a good king, so strong, intelligent, a scholar of the Vedas, righteous, the epitome of righteousness. They didn't spare him either. False accusations were made against him. Then accusations were made against Lord Krishna. They said he plays with the Gopis, he is a butter thief. Such false accusations were made. Was Lord Krishna like that? No. So, he thought, people don't spare such great men like Lord Krishna. They don't spare Lord Rama. They don't spare Lord Krishna. They defame everyone. They make false accusations. Then he thought, God, the owner of the whole world, the king of all. Does God commit scams? Does God commit injustice? These people don't even spare God. The omnipotent one, completely blameless. People don't spare even that God who has never committed even the slightest injustice to anyone. They abuse him a lot. "Oh God, may you be destroyed. You killed my son." When a son dies, people curse God. And they get so angry, "If I get my hands on him someday, I will break his bones." They get so angry at God. And they make such false accusations. "He killed my son. He made my case fail. He made me lose my case. He did this. He did that." All the losses are attributed to God. Whether it's their fault or someone else's, they blame God. So, what does a person of true knowledge think? They think, "This world is so worthless, so wicked, so foolish that they don't spare Lord Rama, they don't spare Lord Krishna. They don't even spare the omnipotent, omniscient, completely blameless God. So, what am I? Who will spare me? Accusations will be made against me too. They will be made. So, what difference does it make? Not even 10% of my soul has been cut off. I haven't suffered even 20% loss of my soul. The soul is 100% safe. You can make as many accusations as you want, nothing will happen. Only a few people will be misled. That's all. They find a solution for this. What is the solution? The solution is that among the people whom this person has instigated against me, made false accusations, misled these 500 people, they will look for who among them is intelligent? How many are sensible? They will pick out two, three, four sensible people out of 500. I am also telling you a technique. Your tension will also be removed. Learn it. So, they will find four or five people out of those 500 who are sensible, intelligent, and to them, they will explain their clarification: "This false accusation made in this letter, in this writing, is all wrong. These are all false accusations. I am not the kind of person I am being accused of being. And if you want to test, then test. I give you full freedom. Go find proof, bring it. Conduct all tests with evidence. If I am found guilty of the accusations made against me. If I am truly found guilty after testing the evidence, then I declare publicly. I will accept punishment in front of everyone. You punish me in public at the crossroads. I will accept the punishment. And if I am not proven guilty, if I am found innocent, then this person who is talking nonsense, you should also correct them a bit. You should also explain to them that they should not make such false accusations. Then, if you wish, you can punish them. If not, at least put a brake on them so that they don't misbehave like this again." So, a person of true knowledge will say this. Then those five sensible people will understand from these sentences that, "Yes, this is true." Will they understand or not? They will understand, right? If they were guilty, a criminal, would they say this? "I will accept punishment at the crossroads. I will accept punishment in front of everyone." Would they say this? But this person is speaking openly. "I am not a criminal. Go test. It's my challenge." This means they are truly innocent. They are speaking the truth. So, those five people will understand from just saying this. And if even one of the five still has a doubt, they will conduct a small test. "Okay, brother. And if we have not done anything wrong, then why should we be afraid? Why the tension? Conduct the test." And they will conduct the test too. Then it will also be proven to them that they are innocent. They have not made any mistake. So, five people will understand our truth. Now, those five people will explain to the other five hundred. That's all we need to do. Explain to the intelligent ones that this is a false accusation. I have not done anything like this. If those five understand, they will explain to everyone else. Things spread like this. Just as the false news spread, this true news will also spread. They will spread it further. Our objective is fulfilled. In this way, a person of true knowledge stops the effect of such false accusations and manages it. They don't worry. They remain happy. Tension-free. So, they can stop mental things, but they can only stop physical things up to a limit. Suppose when your body is fine, healthy, not sick, no fever, normal temperature, then you do all your work properly. Suppose you get a fever of 102 degrees Fahrenheit. Now, it will make some difference. Yes. Will it make a difference with a fever of 102? Now your mind and body will not work as much as they normally do every day. There will be a change. Then the temperature will rise further. 103, 104. Then the situation will worsen. With a fever of 104 degrees Fahrenheit, an ordinary person's condition will become terrible. They won't be able to manage. They will become unconscious or lie down. They will be severely distressed on the bed. A person of true knowledge, a yogi, will not be so sad. They will be less sad. They will stop the fever up to 102 degrees Fahrenheit. They will not be affected by it. If the fever rises above that, then its effect will increase. An ordinary person's condition will worsen even at 102. So, our Guru used to say that when I get a fever of 102, I am fine until then. It makes no difference to me. This fever has no effect on my body or my mental state. I can control it up to 102. Then when it becomes 104, the situation is no longer in my control. Then it affects me a little. The situation changes. So, this is the level of a person of true knowledge. Their state. In this way, they stop these effects. So, they are living much better than others. They live well. It's okay. Any other doubts, please speak. They controlled their mind. That's right. They didn't have complete yogic ability. They didn't have high detachment. But they had an inner skill, an ability, whatever knowledge they had, and the spirit with which they worked, the spirit of patriotism with which Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel worked, "We will protect the country, do good to others," and there were so many 47-48 people who had important cases pending against them. So, was their value more, or the wife's value more? Whichever was more, that was gone. That was not coming back. And if I run away at this time, these 48 people will suffer a loss. So, seeing the loss and gain, they strengthened their mental state, thinking, "Well, the wife has passed away. Only the final rites need to be performed. I won't do that. Someone else will do it someday." But if I leave this work, these 48 people will suffer a loss. So, thinking this, they acted wisely and controlled their mind. They were not disturbed or affected by that event and focused entirely on their work and won the case. So, other people also do this. These other people are not standing at zero. They also have knowledge. They have knowledge of their true nature. They also have some detachment. They have some spirit of patriotism. Because of that, they get enthusiasm, zeal. And by comparing loss and gain, they prioritize the side that has more gain, and make the other side secondary. Other people also do this according to their abilities. So, Sardar Patel did the right thing, he did very well, and he succeeded in his work. Yes, they also talked about Yogi Ji, CM Yogi of Uttar Pradesh. His father also passed away. He also received the news. It made no difference to him. He is a renunciate anyway, and he has knowledge and wisdom. So, it's a good thing. So, the point is that whoever has more knowledge and wisdom, more detachment, more spirit of doing good to others, higher knowledge of their true nature, the more they will fight these situations and will not be affected, not be troubled, not be sad, and will win. So, this point is being made here. Okay. Any other questions? Yes, please speak. Your question is whether the mind remains with the soul in the next birth or not? My answer is, it remains. This mind that we have, the mind, will go with us in the next birth. It will accompany us for millions of births. Until when will it accompany the soul? Until liberation is achieved. Until we achieve liberation. This mind will accompany us for millions of births. It will only leave us after bringing us to liberation. Either it will separate from us when liberation is achieved. Or if a deluge occurs in between and liberation is not achieved. When the time of deluge arrives, it will separate then. If there is no deluge and no liberation, then this mind will continue with us for millions of births. Yes, there will be wear and tear. A little bit. Very little. For example, what is the lifespan of a car considered to be? 20 years. 15 years, 20 years. After that, it gets ruined. Then people leave it and buy a new one. So, what is the lifespan of a car? 15-20 years. So, wear and tear happens rapidly in it. The lifespan of the body is 70-80-100 years. Wear and tear happens rapidly in it. So, it gets destroyed in 100 years. A car gets destroyed in 15-20 years. But if the lifespan of an object is 4 billion 320 million years, how slow will be the rate of wear and tear? How slow will it be? It will wear out very slowly, slowly, slowly. It will continue to be the same for millions of years. So, the lifespan of the mind is 4 billion 320 million years. The mind, senses, intellect – this subtle body has such a long lifespan. Therefore, the rate of wear and tear is also very low. It will happen slowly. Yes, please speak. This is not right. When detachment occurs and the soul experiences the Supreme Being. When samadhi is attained. Even then, the mind remains connected to the soul. It is not cut off. It does not separate. Because God gave it the mind precisely so that it could perform its tasks. Whether it's the task of samadhi or worldly dealings, anything. It cannot do anything without the mind. It cannot even experience God without the mind. It is a means. As long as the soul is bound, is a body-bearer, all its tasks will be done through the mind. They will not happen directly without it. When it goes to liberation, then the mind will separate from it. This is written in the scriptures. When the mind separates from it, then it will be liberated. Then, in liberation, the mind is not needed either. The senses, these physical senses, are not needed at all. The gross body, the subtle body, nothing is needed there. There, the soul's connection with all three bodies will be severed. Then the soul has its own 24 powers, which are written in the ninth chapter of Satyarth Prakash. They are its natural powers. 24 powers. They will remain with the soul in liberation and even today. They are natural. They will never be removed, whether in bondage or in liberation. Those 24 powers will accompany it in moksha. But they are very few, very weak. The soul cannot function with just these powers. If it has to do any external work at any time, it needs some external help. External support. Then it becomes conscious, then it works. So, when the soul comes into bondage, it performs whatever it does with the help of the body, mind, senses, intellect, and other physical substances. Whether it is to attain samadhi or to experience God, it needs those means. When it goes to liberation, these physical means will be shed. There, it will receive God's power. It will get its support. Then, with its power, it will do all its work in liberation. In bondage, it needs the help of both nature and God. Here, it needs help from both. And in moksha, nature is completely cut off, and then it does all its work with God's power. Seeing, hearing, roaming, conversing, discussing amongst themselves. Liberated souls also talk amongst themselves. Just as you and I are talking. You and I are both in a state of bondage, so we are talking. Similarly, if two souls are in liberation, they can talk to each other. There is no need to make friends. There are no enemies there. Everyone is a friend there. [Laughter] There are no enemies in liberation. Everyone is a friend. They can stay together if they wish. There is no bondage there. Bondage is here. Liberation is freedom. Full freedom. Go roam, chat, see, hear, look at the sights of the world. Complete freedom. So, they talk there. Someone asked, "What do they talk about?" I said, "Just like we talk." They also talk. What do we talk about? We talk about, "Brother, we saw the Taj Mahal. We saw the Red Fort in Delhi-Agra. It was very beautiful." That's what we talk about, right? Someone went to Switzerland, someone went to England, someone traveled to Japan. Then they come back and tell us what they saw. That's what we talk about. So, just as we talk here about, "I went to London, I went to Switzerland, I traveled to Dubai." Similarly, liberated souls also talk amongst themselves. They ask, "Yes, Lalchand ji, where did you travel?" So, Lalchand ji said, "I am just returning from seeing the rings of Saturn. It's very beautiful. You haven't seen them." Then another person, Prafull ji, said, "No, I haven't seen them." "Oh, you haven't seen them? Go and see them. It's very beautiful." Now, go and see. They will go and see. Is there a tax here for that? No. No rent, no passport, no visa, no tax. Nothing. Free travel. They have God's power. So, they will say, "I saw the rings of Saturn." Prafull ji says, "I will go and see too." He will also go and see. Then they will ask, "What did you see?" He will say, "I went down into the Indian Ocean. I saw the fish. Oh, how beautiful the fish were! What colors, what designs! Red, yellow, shiny, golden, how beautiful the fish were. One fish was such that it emitted light all around. It was so much fun to see." Then Prafull ji will say, "Lalchand ji, didn't you see the Indian Ocean?" "No, I didn't see it." "Then go and see it. What tax is there here?" They will go and see the Indian Ocean. Just like this, they talk about seeing things, traveling. They must be talking about that. All those things cannot be understood here. [Laughter] Does the soul rest in liberation or not? Both are happening there. They will see there. They will roam. They will get tired. They will get bored. So, they will also rest. They will rest for a few years. Then they will roam for 5-10 years. Then when they get tired, bored, they will rest again. That will only be known by going there. The creation will remain the same. The experience will be different. Yes, here we have the body, so we are bound by it. We have to sleep, wake up, exercise according to it. There are many hassles here. So, in liberation, all hassles are gone. There will be no body. No bathing, no washing, no feeding, no drinking, no problem at all. So, there, they will be free 24 hours. Roam around, see. Enjoy God, and see the sights of the world. No attachment, no aversion, nothing. Because the cause of all these is ignorance (avidya). Attachment, aversion, lust, anger, greed, envy, hatred, attachment, ego – the root cause of all these things is ignorance. We have cut off that root here itself. We have ended ignorance here. So, in moksha, there is no ignorance, no attachment, aversion, lust, anger, nothing. No ego, no one is small, no one is big. Everyone is equal. Liberated souls are all equal. They are all the same. They are in their original form in liberation, and everyone's original form is the same. Therefore, there, no one considers anyone small, no one considers anyone big. Everyone is equal. They enjoy immensely. It is written in Satyarth Prakash. There, no one is small or big. Just as here, someone is a president, someone is a minister, someone is a vice-president, someone is a treasurer. Here, posts are high and low, right? There, there is no such high or low. Everyone is equal. Yes. Yes, man and woman are names of the body. The body is not there. All souls are the same. Okay. Yes, please. Last question. But the experience remains continuous. See, the bliss of liberation is the bliss of God. There is nothing separate from God. Right? God is the owner and king of the world. And in liberation, He will give the same bliss. He will give it in samadhi too. So, God is one. The bliss we will get in liberation will be God's bliss. And the bliss we get by sitting in samadhi and experiencing God, in asamprajñata samadhi, that is also God's bliss. That is, the bliss of liberation and the bliss of God in samadhi are the same. There is no difference. The only difference is that here there is a body, and there there will be no body. The bliss will be the same, the same bliss. So, a yogi experiences the bliss of liberation in asamprajñata samadhi. If you need proof, then Yoga Darshan, first chapter, 19th sutra. It is written there. Read it. It is written there, Yoga Darshan, first pada, 19th sutra. Bhavapratyayo videhaprakṛtilayānām. This is the sutra. In Vyasa Bhashya, it is written that those yogis in samadhi experience something like liberation. So, the bliss of liberation and the bliss of samadhi, the bliss of God, are the same. So, they experience this right here. And from this bliss, the impressions that are formed, due to those impressions, they destroy all afflictions like ignorance, etc. And by destroying this, they completely leave the body and become liberated. Then, in liberation, there are no more problems. But as long as the body is there, there are problems. They will do samadhi for an hour, two hours, then they will get tired. Then they will have to come back. They will return to worldly dealings, and that state will diminish slightly, change. To avoid this hassle, they then go completely to moksha, where there will be peace. There will be bliss for 24 hours. Therefore, they go to moksha. You might not have found it in this book. You found something like liberation. You found it, right? Yes. You found it in the 19th sutra, right? Yes. So, in this way, they experience the bliss of liberation right here. Time is up. Yes, we will conclude the discourse. Shri Lalchand ji will provide further information. With a round of applause, we offer our heartfelt gratitude to Pujya Swami Ji Maharaj.