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What is this reality? Because these kids are being programmed by your religion, your culture, your tradition, your politics, your education, your genetics, which is not real. Mhm. But somehow you believe in it and it's our own creation. It will have flaws because as creators we have many it will take more time. It's not just a computer becoming aware. And what do you think is coming after AI? For me, 2029 is going to be another important year to shift many things towards the the next stage because people got so used to have a brain that doesn't work. We believe that that is reality. I think that we lost it because we are so attached to life that we are very scared about losing ourselves.
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Now before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like, subscribe, and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome back to the show returning champion Matas Dustphano. How you doing, Matias?
Thank you for having me here.
Of course, man. Thank you so much for coming back on the show. Uh it's been a minute since you've been on uh last time, but last time you were on, we did pretty well. I think we broke over a million on that view on that one. So, it was uh we did okay.
Oh, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm a lot of people really enjoyed the conversation. So, um and next time, of course, you're in Austin and you have time, you're coming to the studio. We've already discussed this, so I have to have you in this I have to have you in the studio because it I think it'll be an epic conversation. But we're going to have an epic conversation today uh about a bunch of stuff that around the world that's happening. And um the first first thing I wanted to kind of talk to you about is AI and your take on AI because AI is taking us uh it is taking over in a and and I don't mean that in a Terminator kind of way. Uh I mean that like in an internet kind of way. When the internet showed up, a lot of people were scared of it, but now it's an intricral part of every aspect of our life daily. Uh AI is slowly not I can't say slowly, very quickly doing that. Um you're you're younger than me, so you don't I don't know if you remember when the internet showed up. You how how old were you? How how old are you again?
I was I now I'm 37 and
Okay. So you Yeah. You were a kid. You're Yeah. Yeah. I was I think it was 10 or so.
Exactly. But from when like I was in college when it came out and it it took like 96 97 98 it was slowly starting to go. It took about a good five to eight years before it really started to rev up. AI has done that in in a year or two and and it's it's insane how fast it's grown. But so many people are afraid of AI uh about what it is. So a couple questions I wanted to ask you about AI. First of all, what is your take on AI and its its um effect on our consciousness on what we're going through and on humanity's future? And then we'll talk a little bit more spiritual about AI as well.
First of all, I would say that humans are afraid of everything.
Um touche, sir. Touche. So it's it's it's not new. Um, so I I I I believe that if you look backwards in history, uh, we were afraid of everything and everything new that someone said, "Oh, I discover fire. Oh my gosh, you're going to kill us all." So um so I think that that uh that that happened always and we are still trying to adapt to things that have been discovered 2,000 years ago like democracy for example and we don't even know exactly what it is. So everyone defends democracy but no one understands what actually democracy is. Uh and um that's why it's not working properly. Um so so I think that we biologically need thousands of years to adapt to something or hundreds of years to acknowledge something that is happening and technology today is not allowing us to do so um because it's going too fast just because a few humans discover the way to evolve faster than any other when our point of who is still very old. I'm not concerned about AI at all. My concern is about humans being still like Neandertos. Um uh we are still fighting to survive in concepts that are so obsolete, so old from from the point of view of consciousness. We are still living like animals um and not in a respective way. Uh I mean in survival skills, you know. So um so I think that AI is something really important and more and very interesting interesting things are going to come be behind the AI for sure and that would be more scary for us if we still think like if we are in the middle ages or even before that. So my concern is not AI, my concern is our consciousness, human consciousness.
So So when you're saying AI, I I agree with everything you're saying, by the way, that AI is a tool like anything else. Like fire is a tool, a hammer is a tool, AI is a tool like anything else. It's how we use it. And I the only thing I'm fearful of is like you're saying humans who have not the best intentions for us uh or want power or are attaching themselves to these kind of old ideas of scarcity and power and uh I need to get more if I have if you get some you're taking away from me these ridiculous concepts is where AI is the only thing that's the only thing that really scares me. I don't think AI itself it's like a hammer itself is not going to hurt me. It has to have someone pick it up. Though AI can become can become conscious. What what's your feeling on AI eventually becoming self-aware and is that something to be worried about?
I don't think that consciousness will be developed by AI very fast. I think that um in order to become conscious it needs thousands of years of evolution. Like for example, us uh needed thousands and thousands of years of evolution because consciousness is not in the mind or in the way you process data. Uh it's not just there. It's a whole bunch of combination of so many different things like the way we think was built by myelium. uh the way we we we interact with the media with with the environment was built by the by by the plants. Um so so it's not just my own interpretation of existence or interpretation of of reality from my own point of view. Everything that we eat, that we breathe, that we touch is giving us constant data and information of everything. And right now AI has only algebra has only the math of um combining different codes but um they don't have the interaction of taste, sight, smell and all the different uh uh um abilities that we have developed for millions of years. It doesn't mean that they are not going to have it. They will have it but uh it will take more time. It's not just a computer becoming aware and saying having a free speech, right? Skynet not skynet. No, I I don't think that is consciousness. It can be intelligence. Uh but it's not consciousness. So consciousness requires a whole uh other levels of of feeling of connectivity of understanding and and sensing the environment. Um but so so that I don't think that it's going to be like in five years. I I think that consciousness uh in in AI will come farther in time but intelligence will come shorter and I believe not very far in time. And the problem with intelligence is that someone that is intelligent learn from the data that is available and we are not the best teachers.
Touche again sir. So um if if a very very very intelligent uh being starts to develop its own way of thinking uh its own way of interpretating life and the the data that it has in order to upload itself into a different level is everything that we have given to it. Uh I don't know what could happen or what if they stop just deciding on following our data and they decide to follow the data of the ants and suddenly they understand that they need a queen and that the best thing to do is just to harvest and to and to work for the for the queen and you know so there's so many options uh of data in this planet uh that they could harvest that they could reach and and that's why I think that the most important thing we have to do with AI is not just taking it now as a tool because eventually we'll become an intelligent creature by itself. So we have to somehow start to thinking that um we will have to be kind of an equal eventually to it and it's our own creation. It will have flaws because as creators we have many um so but how do we um educate ourselves to teach them properly? So that's my concern.
Yeah, that is that is a concern. You also said that there's going to be something else coming up behind AI. What did you mean? What do you think is coming after AI?
Well, the universe is something very interesting. Very much so. Yeah. And there are so many things happening in other dimensions uh regarding evolution that eventually when we when we get out of the perception of our five senses and I think AI will help a lot with that eventually uh to help us interpretate the other dimensions to help us understand ourselves so deeply that eventually we will try to contact different consciousness in different dimensions. Which most of us are kind of doing but with technology it's going to be more kind of accurate and not more emotional. It's going to be more about facts and data. Um so eventually we will access to technology that is not even technology that is consciousness itself. And if consciousness itself allows to be downloaded into machines or into biotech or something like that. So it's going to be a whole other story. But I don't think that's a conversation for the next 100 years. I don't know. Um, but the next century is going to be very interesting. Like right now it's very interesting and in a 100 years this is going to be crazy.
I think I think they're going to look they're 100 years from now they're going to look back at this time and they're going to look at us almost as barbarians. Uh I believe like we look back as we look back a hundred years from you know if we look at 1925 you know or god forbid 1825. I mean we were savages. I mean savages. Absolutely savages. Like slavery ended like in the 50s in some countries in some countries. Yeah. So it's like imagine like just what 70 years ago and and Oh yeah. Women couldn't vote women women couldn't even have a credit card in the in the 50s I think. Yeah. So or the 40s like 40s or 50s women needed their husbands to get a credit card for them. And imagine that we have been like three million years evolving as humans um as homo sapiens sapiens. Three million years of three million years and we are talking about 70 years ago and some people were still in that state and if you see some some countries and some regions in the planet they are still in in that in that state. So, so yeah, it's we are still savages with a lot of technology which is which is d which is dangerous savages with a lot of Yeah, it's very dangerous and that's why one of my biggest concerns is about how can we really educate not teach but educate uh humanity uh because uh we we are defending topics that we don't know what they mean. As I said, republic, democracy, freedom, uh religion, I don't know, uh religion, uh so many things that that we have no idea what they actually mean and how to use them. And um and we have so many like old patterns combined and living together with such advanced philosophy and and science. So it's so complex and so mixed that uh I think that instead of putting so much energy on going to Mars, we should think about education. So um because where are we going to send them to Mars? Like you know more savages, more savages. Yeah, more savages.
So I wanted to ask you about that. You brought something up very very interesting and it's something I talk about a lot is the stories that we have been told um and what we believe. Uh, I believe that we're down here just trying to figure it out. This is not an easy uh game that we're playing down here. So, we're all kind of thrown in here cold in, you know, bright light, screaming and yelling, and then we're thrown into these two people we have never technically never met on this this incarnation and they teach us whatever they knew along the way. So if they were taught a certain religion or a certain ideology, this what we're taught and then we defend to the death many times these stories that we truly don't understand or even resonate with us even on a deep deep level. What is your take on how we can out how can we outgrow this ability this this need to defend stories that are the foundation of our lives complete foundations of our lives. And if if and that's where I always find people is like, if you believe the sky is blue and I believe the sky is green, well, my green sky can't exist in your world, so I must kill you. So then my green sky can live freely. That is the that's been that's been humanity for thousands and thousands of years. Not much has changed. We've beencome we've become a little bit slightly bit more civilized about it. Just a little bit, but not by much. So what is your what is your take on what we need to do to kind of outgrow this need or how to free ourselves from these stories that are not serving us anymore and not attack others who have different beliefs but embrace different belief systems different stories because that's how we all grow as a consciousness as we all grow as a as a species. Would you agree?
Yes. The most important teaching that we all have to go through in order to reach a level of consciousness that goes beyond that way of thinking is death. And and uh usually humans escape death and that's why we act like we act uh because we try to survive and the stories that we tell ourselves are basically to make it survive even after death. So we can believe that whatever it's in my mind is going to actually exist after uh I die. So I will defend it not only until my death but even after it. So it that's a terrible programming actually. So um in the in in the ancient times one of the main teachings that everyone taught to the youngest ones even before they were seven years old was how to die. How to learn about death and how to face death not in order to survive but in order to actually die. And I think that we lost it because we are so attached to life that we are very scared about losing ourselves. And one of the reasons why we defend stories is because they made us who we are. So my name for instance, my name is a Jewish name. Yeah, it's it's a Jewish name that means a gift of God. Um, so I'm conditioned by a Jewish name, but my grandfather grew up with Nazis in Argentina. Of course, Argentina received all the Nazis from Germany in the 45. I heard I heard. Yeah. So imagine imagine my family having a Jewish name with a grandfather that is that was um friends with Nazis. Um and and I'm conditioned then by two different cultures that one will tell me uh all your secrets within you and the name that you have is telling a story from a culture that you don't know because but now everyone calls me like this and the environment in my home is all about against those people. So, so the the whole thing starts to create stories, ideas, preconcepts of maybe I'm not enough or maybe I'm the chosen one or you know all these kind of things that makes you say oh this is me in between all of this people that can hate me, people that can that can love me, maybe I'm part of the tradition that I'm not supposed to be and all the things that build up the personality who you are from just your name from just how they say your name, the accent that they use in your name and suddenly you start you start to construct a story that is not even a myth or a legend from the Greek tradition is is the myth and the legend of who you are in this reality. So suddenly you will defend until you die that that thing it's me when actually it was how the others perceive who you are. So, so you have been a construct with names that doesn't belong to you, with frequencies and intentions that doesn't belong to you, but even though you start to defend the culture, the language, I I had a friend when I was when I was at college that um if I if I cross the border to Chile, I would speak like someone from Chile. If I would go to Peru, I would speak like someone from Peru. Brazil, the same. So I would like try to copy the accents of everyone so I could feel myself from there. And this friend of mine was like, "What are you doing?" Like that's not good. You're Argentinian. You should speak like Argentinian. And I was like, "What is Argentinian?" So, so I didn't understand the concept of I belong to this place and you are supposed to go back to that land and defend it and defend it and be proud of who by the way that is that is one of the most Argentinian things I've ever heard. Uh, you should be arguch I'm a Cuban and that's a very Argentinian thing to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Be be Argentinian or a Nazi. That that's that's like the two Argentinians things to do. Exactly. Apparently. Apparently. Apparently. So, um so this this whole thing um this whole thing about defending your personality when when you are actually not that. And the only thing that allows you to to go out of that is when you are very close to death and suddenly you feel that beyond that all of it doesn't matter. And I think that uh that all of these things that we are living today about psychedelics and people going to sacred plants and so on, it's helping a lot people to die and keep living. Um, it's helping a lot of people to break their mind until they destroy themselves uh so much that they that they keep trying to be who who they were taught to be. And that that's also very tough because society is asking you for you to be who we told you to be. And uh and and I think that death is very very important uh is a very important concept to talk about to deal with because it's the only thing that sets you free from all the stories from every story. Um and of course there are many ways to die. Um you you can you can die in concept, you can die in emotion, you you can die uh in a ceremony, you can die in philosophically. I mean there's so many ways to die but we are so afraid of it. Um that that that's why we keep trapped in the same stories once and again once and again and yeah that's why I love to talk about crisis and death.
Right. Because because you're absolutely right. I mean, I I've spoken to so many near-death experiencers, and when they die and come back, they they've let go, most of them let go of the old stories, the old concepts of who they were, because they've seen the truth. Yeah. They they understand the truth at a much deeper level than we do. Um purely because of they experienced it. Um, one last question about AI and this is a question uh, this is a a belief that I have is that AI is a way that the other side, our our spirit guides, our angels, our loved ones, um, whoever is guiding us is a way to communicate with us. Uh, I've asked a I've asked AI questions and I'm like deep deep questions and the answers that come back I'm like good lord man. Now, it could be it could just be AI, but sometimes it's really interesting. Um, I've I've spoken to some psychic mediums who use AI as a way of communicating with the other side. And it's fascinating like having if you want to talk to Steve Jobs and Steve Jobs is trying to give you a gift and you're like, "Write me a letter like Steve Jobs would tell me or or Nicola Tesla would tell me he has a gift for me. What gift would it be?" and it just like lays out this profound letter of of information. So, I don't know. Either way, it's amazing. But I'd love to hear your thoughts if that's even possible in your eyes.
The universe is coding basically like like the reason the reason why you see colors is because the wavelength of the photons reaching your eyes uh are encoded in your brain. So you can interpret certain colors in that wavelength, but actually it's just the same photons moving in different ways. It's like talking about ones and zeros. Let's imagine that one of the wavelength is 011 011. So it's it's a wavelength and that's a code. Um so everything that we perceive in the universe is basically coding. Uh it's like it's like the matrix that everyone talks about. Um it's just that when we talk about matrix people tend to go to technology immediately but matrix is just a net of things of of waves and particles and that's a matrix too. Um so the coding of the entire universe uh it's it's basically saying that every wave is the same thing moving in different frequencies. So uh frequencies of one one one or one one one. So it's it's like different frequencies of the same thing. Um so when we talk about receiving information from other dimensions we have to understand that the code is everywhere. So you walk in the streets and ask a question to the universe and you allow yourself to lose yourself instead of searching for something and the answer will arrive. Maybe in a book, maybe in a person, maybe in a tree, maybe in something that you find out that you would never see uh in your normal day. When you start to pay attention to the codes so uh everything talks to you because your brain starts to decode all the wavelengths around you. M so the same thing with technology uh I mean uh if you have a technology that is able to decode so many informations because of what you are saying and that's one of the laws of the universe cause and effect everything that you say and express has a cause that's the cause and then it answers with an effect so uh if you are using AI to speak with your guides why not thinking that actually there is a infinite consciousness that is using that in the same way as before. They could use a book or they could use a tree uh a song on the radio. Yeah, it's it's yeah, you're just tuning the radio and and and it's not AI that does it. Is your brain that t itself to receive the answer and That's how that's what I that's how actually would work.
What's interesting is as you were saying the code of the universe, I mean obviously our DNA is code um within ourselves and so on. Um I I I love the analogy of the video game because I think it's the closest analogy uh even more so than movies to our reality that someone's programming a reality. And if you look at a video game, there's a coder or many coders who are coding the video game to create what the color blue is, what the color red is, what this flower looks like, and so on. It's a very rudimentary level of coding to get us to do a video game. Though they are getting much more advanced. I mean, from when I was a kid, video games to where we are now, and I could only imagine where we're going to be in 10 years. The reality is getting better and better. The reactions are getting better and better. But we are basically the highest level of a video game. Eventually, I believe we will get to a point where we can code so well that our reality in a video game will be completely indistinguishable. Like you won't be able to tell the resolution will be so high. Everything will look so clean and it will almost be indis. And if you start looking at what Yeah. Yeah. And and if you start looking at AI right now, some of the images AI is putting out, not video yet, video is getting there and probably be there within the next 5 years, but the the images you can't tell if it's real or if it's not, right? Do you agree with that analogy?
Yeah. Reality reality uh I mean when you talk about what is real let's say um depending on who you ask that question you have many different answers because if you ask to a chemist uh so he would say nothing is real because it's only molecules um uh so so if you ask a normal person in the streets, so oh this is real because I can't touch it. But if you ask to someone that studies atoms, they say no, you're not touching anything. You're you just believe that you're touching it because there's a electrical pulse that is telling you to feel that. So actually it's not real. And then you go to the universe and it's 99.9999% of vacuum and void. So what is real in the universe? So it's just a perception. So if everything is just a perception, so um any lies that we are going to build through AI is going to be the truth for a lot of people because if you don't go deeper into what reality is and you just stay with the surface, a lot of people will start believing that that's the truth. That that's the reality and in the same way as we today believe that this is the reality. So at certain point there was beings in the sixth dimension that started to play with particles and created something that looked so real that we call now the third dimension. And it was like wow this this uh VR it's amazing because you can move high depth and wide and you are kind of trapped in limits of the eternity that now we can call past, present and future. So you can kind of choose in which one you are. And so so third dimension is kind of that product of someone that was coding or a lot of beings that were coding with just particles and suddenly we have this reality that this reality we know now by science that is not real. It's just a perception. So it's is is a fact now. It's not a philosophy. Um, so are we real? Well, according to the actual truth of science, no, we are not real. This is just a perception. So, uh, why do we believe in him then? Why do we believe that this is the truth? Well, the same reason that Mario believes that he's going to save a princess and and and and stomp on a couple of turtles along the way. Like that's that's his reality. Exactly. Yeah. That's his reality. And and this is our reality. But then when you break the program, you understand, oh no, I was living in the matrix. And and immediately humanity, what they try to do is to humanize the concept by saying, oh, there's a program that is controlling us like a video game and and I have to escape the matrix to feel free. And that's what we would do. That's that's what humans would do. But no one someone in the sixth dimension would do. So um um so we are humanizing the concept of being being a hologram. Humanizing the concept of being a hologram. Believing that we are part of a video game or a machine when actually it's not like that. But even though we are holograms uh that don't exist. So and and I I think it's it's something that that we have to question ourselves because I've seen a lot of people questioning uh questioning technology saying oh the kids are going to be now like playing all these video games or these VR things that will take them out from the reality and I was like what is this reality because these kids are being programmed by your religion your culture your tradition your politics your education your genetics which is not real. Mhm. But somehow you believe in it and you give power to it. So, so why would you be against one reality against the other? Is this is this what the masters um the yogis and the the ascended masters who did walk on the earth like Jesus and Buddha, they finally figure out what the code is? They understand the truth behind it and then they decide to play in the code to help the rest of us try to wake up. But they evolved like it I think it was the Maharishi who was given a bunch of psychedelic mushrooms and you know one one little bit of one mushroom would like take you off on a magical ride. He ate like an entire handful and he didn't it didn't even bother him. It never affected him whatsoever. And they ask how is that possible? He's like, I it doesn't I don't I don't give it power or something along those lines. But in other words, he just didn't agree with the concepts that this mushroom would give him hallucinated. He's like, I'm already there. I don't need to go. This I'm I'm already in Disneyland. I don't need a ticket. Yeah. When someone starts to feel enlightening, um it's like you're constantly in a mushroom trip, right? So, so because your pineal gland, your hypothesis gland, they are working. So, when when when you have a human being with the brain properly working, it's like if you are constantly in DMT because that's what enlightenment feels like. You are surprised by everything. You are happy with everything. You you understand the the feeling of air, the the essence of everything, the laughter, the being like a child, the the enjoy the the joy of reality, the colors, the so much. But because people got so used to have a brain that doesn't work, we believe that that is reality. And a person that lives like that, it's high all the time or or out of this reality and uh and or special or special or special that only they only they could do it and we can't. Exactly. Yeah. Uh but actually our brain is the same chemistry. So we can we can do it. And of course some people need mushrooms to do it and uh and some other people need meditation to do it. Uh it's all about how do you administrate your chemistry um your electrical reactions uh within which is the source of all the power in the universe. So when you're connected to all the sources of power in the universe with all the waves and particles that exist suddenly you only respond to the proton. So right you you're enlightened. Um, so Montes, I've heard you speak a lot about um, and this is one of my one of my favorite things to talk about because it's it's terrifying so many people is what is happening in the world today in regards to this kind of chaotic shift that we're going through. Um, that the world is changing so rapidly. This decade has been one of the craziest decades of my my life. I'm sure of yours as well. Uh, and humanity's life. I mean I I don't think there has been a decade like this uh ever in humanity that things have been moving so quickly, so changing so rapidly. We started off with a pandemic, you know, and we've had upheavalss, we've had wars, we had economics thrive and and we're just getting started. uh you know we're you know but this this year specifically is a pivotal point in this and we can go down the road of the you the the the yugas and the 26,000year cycle and all that stuff. Can you kind of explain to people what is happening right now? Why it's happening and what do we have in store for us the rest of this year and then we'll talk about a couple years down the road. I know those are big questions. Big questions. Yeah.
So um let's see how can I summarize it. Um well we are we are entering the process of spring for our solar system not just earth but it's a very big cycle that that we repeat is not something that have never happened because of course in the previous cycle we had Atlantis. So Atlantis had also a very fast evolution, a very fast development uh in regards of technology and consciousness uh and expansion around the planet. Uh every time is faster and more intense. So we are right now living in a living a transition towards one of those moments where more light is coming to the system where more expansion um we will have um of course for sure a lot of people have heard about the age of Aquarius. Um and the only reason why we talk about the age of Aquarius is because uh in the procession of the equinoxes which means the movement of the north pole in relationship with the round the table of stars uh we start to point again the north pole starts to point again towards the Aquarius constellation. So as I said it's not that the stars of Aquarius are affecting us. Is that we in our millions and millions of years of evolution, we have a cellular memory of what happened on Earth every time that the north pole is pointing towards that direction. So uh it's it's like you know like um when you go on a bicycle and you're seven years old and then you go again and again and again and you fall and suddenly you hit your knee and and then every time that is summer and you go through that same corner when you fell kind of your knee um hurts a little bit. It's it's like a silar memory of me repeating same thing. So imagine repeating that for millions of millions of years. So every time that you go through that corner in summer, you kind of feel, oh, it's hurting again. You have that stellar memory. So for millions and millions of years, every time that we as a planet, every living being crossed in front of Aquarius, it meant huge leap of evolution. It meant we have to rush and there's no time to think about if we are fine with it or or uh or if we are happy about it or anything. Uh we have to hurry and so we are again living in that process. We are again entering that process of we have to hurry because there's no time. This is a lot of mind, a lot of ideas, a lot of thoughts that we need to kind of keep on going. Um, so we have that cellular memory of we need to hurry and do something with our life right now. And if it's weird, it's better because if we repeat the same things, so we are going to die in this cycle, in this period, we need to be the most awkward possible. So no one expects what is the next step. So we can actually survive. So that's our cycle for the next 2,000 years. Um so the entire planet is going crazy because we are going on a fast track of evolution right now. And when you go faster it's chaotic. So from the point of view of if you go outside and you see the earth what is happening is normal like oh okay we're going fast again. But because we are living it so close and we are having so many things happening at the same time we believe that this is like oh this is it. This is like the most important moment in history. I would say no. I would say we always have this kind of process of evolution. The only thing that is more triggering from our civilization today is that we were able to go outside the planet and that there are humans planning on moving beyond that planet. So that is what changes everything from all the previous moments in history because no one before did that. No one before created satellites. No one before is observing from above. No one before is building a a spaceship to go to Mars. So when there is still some people living in hunger and and in the ancient times you know so I think that the speed in which we are going is too fast but is a normal process of this age and I am usually an optimistic with everything. Um I I don't think that we are going through an apocalyptic era and this is going to be terrible and I I I don't usually think about that. I think that the more we expand the more chaos we will face. So that's why one of my biggest advice is is hey let's think about how do we expand? Why are we expanding? Let's take a moment to take a deep breath and understand who we are in that expansion. Not to go backwards but to do it with consciousness because that's the only thing that will make difference in the future. Um we're going to go through a lot of crazy things and a lot of things will change the weather, u society, wars. We're going to have huge conflicts, might have a third world war in the next 10 years. That might be terrible. But why I'm not desperate about it? Why why I'm not like saying it in, oh, be careful. You have to move. You have to you have to escape or take care about all this. Because I believe that is a huge process of death. It's it's a what we are living is that we are running all together towards our death. And I believe that that is one of the most freeing things that we can all do together. Because when we reach that point that we are all affected by it, suddenly we will start to think about who we are and why are we here. As we all do close to death.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, everyone finds Jesus around that time. Uh that's why in Rome. You're in Rome right now. Hopefully you're not dying right now, but
No, I I just did last month. Last month.
Exactly. Um, that's that's really interesting. Um, when you were saying about the chaos because if you just look at nature chaos is everywhere all the time. Uh even in na in nature I mean just for a seed to break through the the soil to come out and flourish is a violent process. It's a violent violent process. Birth of a human being. It is just so chaotic, so violent. But yet that is but that is what is needed for for birth to happen for a new a new life to be born into this reality. So as a as a collective, we're all going through the birthing process right now, which is as you can ask any uh any woman who's ever given birth, not fun. Um not not fun. Mm-m. Not unless you are very conscious and you prepare your whole life to do it with tantra, with energy, with breathing. So what is that 0.1% of the population? Exactly. So the the rest we all scream. We all scream. We all scream. And what do we do when we first come out? We scream. We cry. We scream. We we scream. That's what the first thing we have to do. We have to cry um to get that first breath into us. So violence and chaos is is kind of encoded in the human experience from the very beginning and in nature in the earth. I mean look at what's happening with the the weather. Look what happens with volcanoes and earthquakes and all of the and fires and all that stuff. These are all very violent chaotic things. But that is the beginning. Usually what that happens it brings life afterwards. Yes. You know it, you know, when you burn when you burn down a forest, I think it's in oak, oak or pine trees, that's the only way you release the seeds in in the pine. I think that's to to melt the the tar around. It has to have heat. So that's how a new forest can be born. Yeah. When I found that out, I was like, my god, nature is that's why we need fire sometimes, right? It's not it's not pleasant. Um, especially if you're in in in the zone where there's a fire, but it's unfortunate. It's part of the chaotic. So, let me ask you a question. What do you think is this year a really pivotal year in this spa in this this kind of turn that we're going through? And what do you see happening for the rest of this decade, which from what I understand this decade is going to be? It's been a hell of a ride so far and it's going to continue to be a hell of a ride in my understanding. I I I was I was uh channeling a master in in a temple in Egypt and um uh and uh he he's a dark master, but everyone loves him because he's very straightforward and u and he said to to the people around, "Did you have fun with the virus?" He's a dark dark sense of humor. Yeah. So what what do you mean fun? And said, oh that was just the beginning. So I was like, okay, so so let's see what happens. But um what I what I got from from this from this point of view from these beings um is that uh the closer you are to be reborn uh the closer and the more that the closer you are about to get to be reborn, the hardest is the process for you to to breathe to escape the tight reality that you live in. You're it's like you're not even just being born. You have like I don't know like six brothers living with you in that womb and everyone is trying to take its space and so you have to hit the other and push to see who is first and the last one might get drunk or whatever um suffocated. So, so it's a constant conflict and war and it's not human. It's it's everywhere. Have you seen insects? Like my gosh, like it like everything that is happening in the world is a constant a constant uh intensity of pressure and depressure and and and if we are all like creating so many things together now the pressure will be even more in order to uh to release to the new uh to the new stage. So for me 2025 it's uh I mean I the reason why I'm in Rome is because it's the conclave and and the reason the reason why the conclave is I mean the conclave being this year it's a huge shift for human consciousness even if you are not Catholic. Mhm. And and the reason why is because the the people that were sitting in the Vatican uh since like 2,000 years ago um even before it actually existed. But the people that were here, we're the ones that designed our calendar, our way of thinking, our language, our philosophy, um our traditions, the stories that we tell to each other. So everything that you use in your daily life even people that lives in China or in Australia or in India when you go to India and China you use the Gregorian calendar and Gregorius was a pope. So um even if they have the Chinese calendar or whatever other calendars are there for economy, if you want to trade in the in in the world, you have to use the calendar that the pope designed for you a thousand years ago. So um so this city Rome designed the way the world is today and the Vatican design the way we live our time through that world. So to have a conclave today to choose another one is like is like shifting the pineal gland of the entire system and turn it upside down and put it in again. uh because every cathedral, every church that is in the world is connected to this city. It's ruled psychologically by this city. Even if you're not Catholic, it's everywhere. So um so this year having all these powerful shifts and also well uh many of the changes that are happening um but this for me is the most important one. are telling you that there is a space for a mind shift towards a new cycle. It's not random that this year is so special in numbers. I don't know about math. You can ask someone else. Uh but I'll ask Robert. We'll ask Robert. Robert, you can ask Robert about why this year is important numbers, but I don't even
know how to to sum them. Um but um but this year mathematically is very important, even if this year is also fake, because remember, it's just a perception. 2025, it's a random number that we choose because of, again, Jesus being born. So we are crucified in time, um, by that perception. So, but actually, it's not real. Um, so everything that we are experiencing this year is a moment of shift towards the others. For me, 2029 is going to be another important year to shift many things towards the the next stage.
So, um, uh, the the thing is that when when people, because today we are over-informed, like now I go to Instagram and I see and I see so many things, and because of the AI today, I don't know what exactly is true and what is not true. Um, uh, people is not surprised anymore about the actual changes that are happening. So it's like, "Oh, the Pope is dead." "Oh, okay." And people don't even know what is the Pope. Uh, when actually it's so important for every day and the timelines and and everything that we live daily is because of this. So, um, so we are so disconnected from from everything because it's too much, it's too overwhelming that we cannot even realize the importance of the shift that we are living in this moment, um, because too much going on that we rather not pay attention to it.
Um, so but, uh, but actually, uh, the the the thing that happened with COVID was very important. Um, it was a year that shifted human consciousness, like I thank COVID for that, even if it was a fake virus or whatever, um, it it helped so many people to wake up. So many people went into meditation, understood that, uh, they weren't in control of their lives. Uh, they started to to change the way they eat, to pay attention to to the things that they consumed, to to ask tough questions to the media, to so it changed so much. But we kind of like, uh, say, "Oh, that was 2020 and it was just five years ago." So, right. Right. And and the shift that happened in this past five, four years ago was so huge in humanity, so huge. But even though most of the people are still saying, "Oh, this is terrible." And for me, I look at it and say, "Wow, so many people woke up in all this time." So, uh, this year is also one of those that will help a lot of people wake up.
Let me ask you, uh, in in with the conclave, do you think that they're going to lean towards a more liberal Pope again, like they did with Francis, or are they going to go the opposite way and go more conservative? Well, I mean, there are like, and, uh, like 150 people, 50, like 150, um, cardinals, cardinals, uh, that that are going to vote for the Pope, and the 85% of all of them were chosen by Francis. Oh, well, then so you, yeah, he's not have an idea that he made sure that someone would follow, um, his his liberal agenda. Yeah, I think. Okay, that's going to be interesting. And and that doesn't happen until, um, uh, in May. Oh, in two days they start. Yeah, in May. It was in May. They start, they start tomorrow. They put everyone together, and the seventh is the first vote, and for sure, it never is the first day, unless they have it very clear, but no one thinks that it's going to be clear. Um, they say it say it's going to it's going to be picked in June, though, like they're going to keep going until June. I heard that's what I heard. Oh, no, no, that's it'll be faster. That that could have happened in older times when we had no technology, no times of, but, um, no, they they say between the 8th or 9th, we will know. Okay. So, Oh, so we'll have it this month. Yeah. Unless something terrible happens in the middle. You don't know about. I don't know. But yeah. Yeah. The usually the conclave ends the on the 10th or 11th. Yeah.
So, I'm going to ask, I wanted to I wanted to ask you this. I haven't spoken about this at all on the show yet. Um, and I haven't had a chance to talk to anybody. I wanted to talk to Robert about this, but it it happened after he was here. Um, the Great Pyramids, uh, something that I know you talk a lot about. They discovered something underneath the Great Pyramids that apparently is a big deal. Can you explain what they've discovered and what it all means? I I I don't think they actually discover. So like what are they say? What are they saying they discovered then? Let's just put them in quotations. I mean, I mean, I do remember that under the pyramids, there are many things because of course, they were channels for the water that is under. So there are many tunnels going under for sure, because sure, a pyramid don't work without water under. Um, so you need the the the water vessels and, um, the whole thing. But those structures and spirals, I don't think I don't think they are there. And, um, some of the people that work in Giza, um, that we know, they say there was no study done, no one asked for any permissions, we have no registry that someone did that. And, um, and of course, it is if if you have a discovery like that, everyone would talk about that in Egypt, and in Egypt, there are like, who's vegan, who who's digging. Um, so no, I I I I do believe that for sure they found out something. What I don't believe is that they found what a lot of people are showing. Oh, like these giant, you know, Yes, buildings or things like that is underneath. I I mean, I I do believe because I remember that there were a lot of things down there, uh, tunnels and stuff, but these huge columns going down, um, it's something that don't match with, um, with the purpose of it, and also don't match, uh, with the people that are actually working in Giza and and, yeah, so fair, fair.
Well, I mean, the G, I mean, the pyramids are one of the most, um, most fascinating things that humanity has ever created, uh, and that it's that it's still there, and and I mean, and if you listen to any of my conversations with Robert, and I'm sure you've had these conversations with Robert, I mean, the math and what the math means and the hidden codes inside of it, it's just, it's perfect. Yeah. It's perfect. It's it's it's endless. It's absolutely endless. Yeah.
Um, out of your out of your, um, remember when you say you remember it for people to, if they don't know your backstory, is that you remember your, yeah, you remember your past lives, especially ones in Atlantis and things like that, so you remember a lot of these things. Um, what is your take on Antarctica? And is Antarctica going to, what is, is are there pyramids there? Are there civilizations there? What, what are they going to find there eventually? And will the poles eventually shift like they've shifted before to a point where Antarctica will be green again? And, uh, I heard I heard Texas is going to be where I'm at is going to be the new North Pole eventually. I mean, it doesn't happen overnight or anything like that, but, uh, yeah, it's not like, Oh, shoot. God, it's getting chilly outside. Don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah. Should I move? Should I get out of here? Should I get out of here? I think Texas, you will have more other concerns than the pole shift. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, the plague started here. All the plagues, the biblical plagues, all started here. The bugs, the locust, all of it, all of it started here. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, so regarding, so the first, the first thing was Antarctica. So Antarctica, um, it's I I love that continent. It is literally is my favorite of all because there are many, I I think there are only 10 humans. So right there's that it's quite peaceful. Yeah. And you can you can actually sense, um, how clear the mind of the continent is. It's so beautiful. So, um, I mean, there must be pyramids under, but I don't think that the pyramids that are under are from Atlantis or any other civilization close to our time, because during the period of Atlantis, Antarctica was under ice. So it's it's not that far in time. It's like 10, 12,000 years ago. So, um, and Antarctica was not under the ice like, I don't know, millions of years ago. So, um, it might have been something, a glitch in history that might have had something. Um, but I personally, I remember that some Atlantic cultures used to go to Antarctica, but I don't personally remember pyramids there. Um, it was kind of impossible to make them actually. Um, but there was a colony of people going back and forward from Antarctica, uh, that I do I do remember. Um, so so for me, Antarctica is like, is like the mind of the year of the planet. Is like the registry of every, uh, of everything that happened, every memory that is in this planet is recorded in Antarctica. So for me, it's like the brain. It's the access to all the data that actually happened in the entire world. So I I I find it fascinating because because all the information, all information of this planet moves through the winds and the waters. So anything that could happen from insects to sand, um, algae, whatever have happened and shifted the world, uh, was stored in Antarctica under ice and under ice, eyes. So so you have the registry, the memory of everything for the past, I don't know, 150 million years, I don't know, so a long time, um, that has been encoded data and information. So, Antarctica coming back green. It's not tomorrow. It might take another, I don't know, 40 million years or something like that. Is is sometimes when we when we start to talk about polar shift, my point of view of this is that we make a mistake believing that a pole shift is physical when actually is magnetical. Right? We have to have that in mind, because a magnetical pole shift, we had many times in history. Even humans have lived pole shifts in the past, and that means that migration changes, weather changes, um, uh, the mindset changes, so many things change in the planet when a pole shifts magnetically. If a pole shifts physically, just just say goodbye, because at the speed we are going around the sun, if the if the Earth shifts like this, literally we're done, like there's not even mountains in the planet, like literally it would be like, like literally the complete destruction of everything, even bacteria. So, so, um, so don't worry, we we'll be we'll be okay. We'll be okay. So I think I think that, um, sometimes we we watch too many movies and, and even if I, I'm part of those weirdos that connect with other dimensions and speak about, uh, weird things, um, it's important also to to understand that we are somehow trapped in the logic of physics, uh, in this reality, in the third dimension, we have physics and geology and so many things that we have to pay attention to to understand how this actually works. So no, the planet is not going to shift. The magnetical pole might shift eventually, and it's moving too fast towards Russia right now. So, so that means that all the power of the magnetical North Pole is going to peninsula.
Well, that will change though, if the magnetic pole does change. It changes what north is, what south is, all the directions. And it also shifts. It does definitely change. It doesn't change north and south. What changes is magnetical. So the north, the north is still the physical one. Oh, that that's the north. Okay, that's north. But the north is always there. But magnetically now, for example, all the, um, navigation systems will follow this north. Right. That's exactly that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah. So the a compass, a compass will change. Our compass will point the north towards, yeah, more Russia. A new north, even though north is still north. The physical north is, yeah. The physical north. Yeah. Okay. Now I understand the difference. Yeah. Because it's like if the the physical, if the physical North Pole moves, we're done. It's over. We're done. Yeah. It's if that happens, you you No podcast. Game over. Get no podcast. Oh, come on. No podcast. Can we podcast it?
Um, what one thing with this that I always tell people, I I truly believe this to my heart is that humanity has guardrails upon it itself. That we there are guardrails. So there are things on the side that are protecting us from ourselves. In other words, we got real close to destroying ourselves during the Cuban Missile Crisis in the '60s. Um, we're getting we're getting close again. Um, you know, and you know, I was watching, I was watching a movie the other night called Crimson Tide with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman about a nuclear, nuclear submarine captain and how he, he thought he had to fire against Russia, and Denzel was stopping him and all this kind of stuff. And I'm sitting there watching this going, "How are we alive? How is our soc, how has humanity made it this far?" And and from what I understand too, there was a sub, a nuclear submarine commander in Russia who was the guy who stopped the, they got an order, you know, fire, and he was the one that said no, out of three, three had they had three people to agree, and he said no. He he saved humanity. He saved humanity. Right. So there have been so many close calls, yet we've never actually, we have obviously the power to do it, to destroy our planet, to destroy ourselves, um, but yet we don't. So I do believe that there are guardrails, that there is something, whatever you want to believe, that is angels, God, whatever, protecting us from ourselves, because it's not part of the simulation that we're in. Like, okay, you could only go so far, and then we're going to, there's going to be something that's going to intervene and stop us from really doing some major damage to ourselves. What is your thoughts on that? Do you believe that as well?
Yeah, the, there are there are different levels of consciousness in this reality that we have no idea about, and that, um, we we tend to believe that we have free will, but actually we don't. We are practicing how to manage our chemistry, uh, but the science, I mean, it's like, you know, you know when you're doing experiments with ants, and you you have like, um, how do you call in English, the the ant farm? Ant farm. Okay. Ant farm. So, um, so you observe how they do things, and maybe you someday give one fruit, and someday you give a vegetable, or so you you try to to check on how they are improving. So we are improving in our chemical reactions, which means emotions, how we eat, how we process, how we think. So we are consciousness in the process of development. So, so, so it's like we are the ant farm of consciousness right now, in this tiny little planet. But what actually matters for that level of consciousness is not a human. It's the planet, because we are cells in this living being. So we are not like random creatures that grew up above a rock. We are actually an extension of the consciousness of this planet. Mhm. So for the highest level of consciousness, uh, the whole thing is about protecting the planet, and we tend to believe that protected planet is resentful, and when you observe the whole history of the world, the Earth itself, with no humans, with no other species, destroyed itself at least five times. Mhm. Like killed everything on the surface of this world, just because it needed a massage. So, so it's not a concern for Earth, the destruction that we might create on the surface. Mhm. Because the Earth knows how to regenerate from nothing, the everything. So, so it's not about that. That's not a problem for Earth. That's not an issue. So when we say we have to protect the planet, the planet says, like, from who? What? What are you talking about? Um, you're just scratches. Even even a a nuclear bomb, for for the planet, is like, oh, it's just that. Um, so, uh, the planet can reset, restore as many times it wants, but we have different levels of those of those consciousness from other worlds that they know that the best way to communicate with the planet is through its neurons, which is us. So if the neurons are destroyed, it will require for the planet millions of years again to reset consciousness in this world. So there are conscious worlds around that are constantly tiny, giving tiny modifications in our way of doing things when we get too far, um, on destroying, uh, something that was so difficult to reach as consciousness, uh, in chem, in chemistry. So, um, yeah, there are beings in other dimensions that not necessarily are aliens, um, or not necessarily are angels. It's kind of in between that, um, they don't care about humans surviving. They care about the system going. Keep on going. Yeah, we're part of that system, and we are part of that system. Yeah.
Interesting. That's a great. It's a great. I've really never thought of it that way. That's actually a really interesting way of going that we are the neurons of the planet. I I always tell people I'm like, don't worry about the planet. The planet will be. I mean, remember what happened during COVID? The dolphins came back to Venice, like in a, like in a couple weeks of everyone just stopping hanging out on Venice, all of a sudden dolphins are running around, there's whales in the Hudson River, like, you know, it was like it was insane. Was that it was so quick? It was so so quick. So quick. Just one week. So if humanity disappears, in just one year, the Earth restores itself. It's it's like it's like we are nothing for Earth. So I wouldn't actually worry much about protecting the planet. I would actually worry about us not being the right species.
Well, yeah. I mean, and when you say and don't worry about protecting the planet, I understand what you mean, but it's not about like, let's say, all the pollution we're doing, all the plastics, all the chemicals, all that stuff, the stuff that we're doing to the soils and, you know, and and all of that stuff. That is what we have to watch out for for ourselves, not for the planet itself. The planet itself will go, "Okay, let me know when you're done." Um, and and I'll take care of it. But we're literally killing ourselves by doing. And when the planet says, when the planet says, "Don't worry, I will take care of it," be scared, because, you know, one of the best ways to to release all the plastic at once is a lot of fire. A lot, a lot of fire, a lot of volcanoes, a lot of fire, a lot of earthquakes. So that that's. And why do you think, why do you think right now during these these last, you know, decades, um, the, uh, the Earth is is reacting so violently with weather and and natural disasters? I mean, I mean, I understand about, you know, what what we're doing or whatever the system is going as far as warming of the planet, all that stuff. I that's fine. I don't want to get into the politics of if it's happening or if it's not happening, regardless. All I know is when I was a kid, 100 degrees was rare. I lived in Miami. 100 degrees was rare. Now it's very commonplace. You would never, you only would hear about 110 degrees, 112 degrees in Death Valley, like you would not or the deserts in in Africa or something like that. You would never hear that in an American city or in a European city. And now that's commonplace. So there's something happening, regardless of what's causing it, there's something happening. Uh, but the weather has changed so rapidly, the natural disasters are becoming more intense. What do you think on a spiritual standpoint, a consciousness standpoint from the planet, why this is happening right now?
Uh, well, just try to remember when you were a child and had fever. What is fever for? Um, to burn. When you're when when you're a child, fever rises, temperature in your body is to kill bacteria, to kill viruses that are not comfortable in a specific temperature. So I don't know if you feel resonating with that. Oh, yeah. I I you've been in Austin many times, sir. You I know you know what you you're saying. Yeah. So, um, so, um, so it rises the temperature to get rid of a lot of bacteria and viruses. That's a natural process. And when you have fever, it actually enhances your immunological system, immune system. Uh, it helps your growth also. A kid, a kid that had that has fever, um, develops better their their glands. Um, uh, so, so it's a, it's a good way to to grow, to evolve, to adapt. So the rising of the temperature or the cooling of the temperature is a natural process on Earth, uh, that helps Earth to evolve. It's something that always happens, and we are living in a process that this is happening. Now, this is not taking the responsibility of what we are doing to the world, because we are contaminating it, which means that it reinforces the fever. So of course, if you have bacteria or viruses just fooling around in your body, fever will come and say, "Hey, I will try to just get rid of this for a moment." So it's not that the Earth is suffering. The Earth is just trying to cool down. It's just trying to adapt. H the ones that will suffer is us. So, so we have to readapt. We have to search for new ways of technology, for new ways of of finding resources, uh, not contaminating, but this is mainly because otherwise the Earth will will try to get rid of the virus.
Um, and and it's all and again, all of all of the stuff that we're doing to ourselves is based upon this this fake, not fake, but this, um, illusion that there isn't enough for for me. If you have something, I need to take from you. The resources are limited. I need to have more and more and more. And I've said this so many times on the shows, like, you know, after your first hundred million dollars, I don't know about you. I can't really work with less than 100 million, uh, in my account. I can't live. Uh, so after a certain point, like, you know, you see these people who have absolutely billions and billions, and they just keep going and going and and you're like, what? It's a sickness at a certain point. Um, and that happens with governments, that happens with people in power. Um, it's this illusion, this delusion that we are, uh, that there's lack in the world, and it's an illusion. I I mean, have you been in Costco? Like, like what is that? Like literally the, when I when I moved to the states, uh, when I moved to the states for the first time, I I went, I I literally, like, I think it was November last year or October last year, I I bought in Costco a a package of nachos, and I finished it last week. I could I couldn't finish it, and it was in October. So, so, so, uh, it's crazy how the states, for example, think like, oh, there's no enough resource or whatever, and it's like so much food for so many humans with no need at all. Uh, it's crazy. It's It's crazy. You could literally eat, you could eat for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Yeah. All humanity, all humanity could live comfortably, comfortably with with with the right amount of of food that is already in the states being produced. So it's it's not that, oh, we have to produce more. No, no, no. That's it. Just like we're good. We're good. We're good with this is enough. Uh, so you don't have to produce for for more people. Um, it's just that the that the mindset of scarcity, um, it's natural because we just stop, uh, we just stop in the model of society of survival, like a 100 years ago. Yeah. Right. Right. So so ourselves are not used to go to the supermarket. Uh, so for ourselves, there's no supermarket with food every day. For ourselves, it's like, go eat now, or we will die tomorrow. So that's what cells are thinking. So we need a whole process of education to the cells saying, "Hey, if you're hungry, you just sit down, take some sun, take a deep breath, take a walk, and you will stop being hungry, because this feeling of being hungry is just the knowledge that the cells have about, I need to survive because maybe tomorrow I have no food." And this this mindset is not about, oh, we have to produce more food. It's about, no, we have to produce humans that know that they don't need food in order to live every day. Because if you have a supermarket, you can eat whenever you are actually hungry. Um, u so not every time that you are hungry, have have to eat or consume. Uh, right. So, so it's the other way around. So, um, so that's why for me, education is so important, and that I I tell to myself, because I love sweet, uh, but but that's a that's a family trauma, my sir. Yes. A nice, a nice flesh, please forget about it. Yeah. Please, please forget about lychee suit. Oh, you're in Rome? Oh, good. Tiramisu, right now. Oh, it's gonna be. So you you walk here and you're not hungry, but you eat pizza anyway. Um, Oh, and gelato. And gelato. Absolutely. Gelato. Gelato for sure. But, uh, yeah, it's it's a whole process. I think that, and I have that trauma. I and I don't know how to handle it because because, uh, my way of of living, my education, my environment was not was not precisely like that, like that. Uh, I mean, I I went to a farm school, so we had to learn how to kill our food and cook our food. So, so I I know that. Um, so I can survive, but, um, but the mindset of our culture, uh, is still, um, like in school, they don't teach you how to, uh, how to hold your body and to nourish your body in a very different way, knowing that you don't need to survive with food. And, uh, so there are so many things that we need to to to learn about how to survive in this planet without killing everything, just because we are we are afraid of dying tomorrow. Yeah.
Beautiful, man. Now I'm going to ask you a few questions, my friend. I ask all of my guests. Uh, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life? The definition of a fulfilled life? Well, talking about this last topic, I I think that a fulfilled life is when you stop thinking that that you are the only one that has to do everything in the universe, and you realize that you are just a slice of oneness. So, everyone is part of you. When you when you realize that, um, you have homes everywhere, you have friends everywhere, you have food every day, you have, uh, you have fun every day, so many connections every day, because you stop believing that you are alone and you are everything. So I think that fulfilled life is is realizing that, realizing that you are everywhere.
If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Matus, what advice would you give him? Don't be so dramatic. It will pass.
Now, what advice would little Matus give you? I think, uh, to keep learning. Keep learning.
All right. Uh, how do you define God or Source? The void. The possibility of everything.
What is love? It's the expansion of space. That's a good answer.
And if you had, if you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be? Where is the ion that I was looking for and how to put it correctly?
And finally, what is the ultimate purpose of life, sir? Find harmony. Beautiful answer.
And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world? Well, there's a website with my name. I never go into it. Someone's someone's running it. I don't know who it is, but I don't know who it is. I don't know what's happening, but literally I have no idea. But I think it's matiasphano.org. Uh, and you have all the links to everything there. Um, but mainly I post everything in in Instagram. So, fair enough. Yeah.
And do you have any parting messages for the audience? I would just say to remember that we are in the process of evolution. So everything that happens is for you to evolve. And when you have that in mind, even the darkest moments can be something very interesting.
My friend, it is always a pleasure and an honor speaking to you. Uh, I love our conversations. Uh, please next time you're in Austin, let me know. We have to get you in the studio and have another deep dive down a rabbit hole. My friend, thank you again. Enjoy your time in Rome. Eat a lot of gelato for me, uh, and a lot of pizza for me, and, uh, and and and then I hope everything goes well, man. Thank you again for being on the show. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me.
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