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Go ahead, sister. Let's go.
Okay. Um, it's it's about the Jewish people. So,
I'm a big-time pro supporter of Israel.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's that's it's ironic you would mention that because I'm going to talk about is it's time God's timing is beautiful.
So, you are pro-Zionist.
Oh, like I mean the whole Bible you can't be Christian be anti- So,
no, it's not about being anti-Jewish. You can't be Jesus's Jew. The greatest creature that God created was a Jewish woman named the blessed mother. That's not what we're talking about. There's a difference between not being anti-Jewish and being pro-Zionist. You said you're pro-Israel. That means you're pro-Zionist. Why?
Um well, because in the Bible it's it's mapped that is their land and that that's where the
Who told you that?
will take place.
Yeah. But who told you that? because you're going to a certain church that teaches you what's called dispensationalism, a dispensational view
of the scriptures. That's not necessarily what the New Testament teaches. Nor is it the view of the church historically. That's more of a modern teaching.
I know that this is what you've been taught because I was taught that. So that's number one. So number two, were you taught they're still God's chosen people?
Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. Bad theology. Can you stop going to the church that you're going to?
I really like it.
Yeah, but they're teaching you bad theology.
Uh, New Testament says the nation of Israel is no longer God's people. The people of God is the church. So, you got to change your theologies. This is see now I again, sister, I want to just bear witness to the Lord God. I was about to discuss this. You being here today,
you being married to a Muslim, you are confirmation to me. And I pray I don't speak presumptuously. May the Holy Spirit save me from Aaron. And I'm in line with the spirit that you are actually for me confirmation that the spirit wants me to address this because of bad theology because I was going to talk about Palestinians and Israelis and try to be as honest as I can and I'm going to offend people.
So number one, your view about Israel is wrong. This is why you're fighting. You're fighting a a battle that's not worth fighting because you have a wrong view of Israel. They're not God's chosen people. Have you read your New Testament?
Yes.
Are you sure? Go to Matthew 21. Open up your Bible. Matthew 21, read 33 to 44. All right. Read this. Jesus is going to give a parable. Matthew 21 33- 44. Start reading 33.
Okay. Listen to another parable. There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a wine press in it, and built a watchtower. He vineyard farmers and moved to another place. When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit. The tenant seized his servants. They beat one, killed another, and stoned a third. Then he sent other servants to them, more than the first time. and the tenants treated them the same way. Last of all, he sent his son to them. They will respect my son, he said. But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, "This is the heir. Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance." So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
Now before you move on, you understand what the parable is about, right?
Yes.
The vineyard is what? Israel
and the tenants, the vine dressers are the rulers, right?
Mhm. Yes.
And their last chance, their last hope of getting it right was what? What did the owner who's God the Father do as their last chance to get right? He sent his son last. Right.
Right.
All right. So then Jesus already says their what response will be? They'll kill him.
Yes.
When they kill him, what is God going to do? Now read. Now read. Continue reading in 44.
Okay. Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants? Um Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scripture? The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. The Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore, I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you.
From who?
Given to a people who will produce.
The king of God will be taken away from who?
From the Israelites.
Yeah. So, why would you say they're God's chosen people? Jesus just said, "When you kill me and reject me, the kingdom will be taken away from you." So, where did you get there? God's chosen people. I think I got it from
the misreading of the Old Testament. Yeah, I know. Now, so you saw what he said. The kingdom will be taken away from you, right?
Yes.
All right. So, that's number one. Now, number two, let me tell you who the true Israelites are. I'm just going to give you scripture. I'm going to give you the Bible. It gets people get upset. They get upset. That's between them and God. I I answer to the Lord, not to people who will try to demonize me and say I'm anti-Semitic. Number one, I can't be anti-Semitic. I'm a Semite.
I'm a son of Shem. I'm Assyrian. I am a descendant of Shem from his son Asher. That's in Genesis. You can read it. Number two, I believe my God became a Jew, which Muslims hate that I say that Jesus is a Jew, a son of David, and he's God Almighty in the flesh. And number three, I love and honor a Jewish woman as the greatest creature of God, the blessed mother, the holy mother, the mother of my Lord, my God, Mary. She's Jewish and I love her as the greatest of all creatures. And I love her more than my mother and I love her more than my daughters. So there's no way in hell someone can accuse me of being anti-Jewish. That's a lie because that's that's only slandering because they can't refute me. So keep that in mind. So now let me show you who a true Jew is. According to the Jews that wrote the New Testament, these are Jews.
These Jews are going to tell you who the true Jews are. They're going to tell you, not me. Okay? So Jesus just said, "The kingdom taken away from you. Kingdom is not yours anymore." Look what the Lord also says. Go to Matthew 8, read 10-13. Matthew 8:10-13. Matthew 8:10-13. When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, "Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. I say to you that many will come from the east and the west and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the subjects of the kingdom will go thrown out
into the darkness where there will be weeping and nashing of teeth."
So wait, the subjects of the kingdom at that time were the Jews, right?
Yes.
But Jesus said the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown in hell. Whereas people from the east and the west, meaning non-Jews, those are not ethnically Jewish. They will eat with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But you won't.
And why did he say that? Because a centurion, a Roman soldier, commander of a 100 soldiers, a Roman soldier, a commander of 100 soldiers, showed such faith in Jesus that he says, "I have yet to see such faith in all of Israel." Do you hear what our Lord said? This gentile who's a commander of 100 Roman soldiers trained to kill. He says he has more faith than anyone in Israel. And that's people from the east and the west will sit with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. But you Jews who are given the kingdom, you'll be thrown in hell for rejecting Jesus. You see that?
Okay.
All right. Let it trouble you because you need to unlearn what you've been taught. Now, go to Romans 2 26 to 29. I'm going to show you scripture. So, this you got to change your mindset. This pro- Zionism, that's not biblical. You're distorting scripture to be a pro-Zionist. They deceived you. You're not pro-Zionist. You're not pro Palestine. You're pro-Lord Jesus Christ and pro- kingdom of Christ. And Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government. Christ's kingdom will conquer all human governments, including Zionism. Zionism is an abomination to God. Zionism is not based on the lordship of Jesus Christ. Zionism is antithetical, anti-gosspel, anti-Christian just as much as a Muslim government. Now go to Romans 2:26-29.
Okay. So then if those who are not circumcised keep the laws requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?
You understand his point there before you because you got to understand what you read. What is he talking about? What is Paul saying here?
Okay. So the the ones that are not circumcised are the Gentiles or the ones Jewish. Okay? And he's saying to the Jews, you who boast being Jewish and you have the law. When you have a Gentile who keeps God's moral commands and ethics, but he's not circumcised, won't God consider him as if he had been circumcised?
Yes.
Now watch what he says to those Jews who are circumcised but break the law. Now read it. The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who even though you have the written code and circumcision are a lawb breaker.
So who's better in the eyes of God? Ethnically Jew who breaks God's law or a Gentile who's not circumcised but honors God and keeps his ethical moral demands.
Well, a Gentile who honors God because the I I understand the circumcision.
Well, now it gets better though
because now you're going to see who the true Jew is. 2829.
A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor a circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly. And circumcision is circumcision of the heart by the spirit, not by the written code.
So you just you you were just told what a true Jew is. A true Jew is what? um someone who follows the Lord's laws and ethics in their heart and truly and not just by outward.
In other words, yeah, you're a follower of Jesus Christ because for Paul to follow the law is to obey Jesus Christ. So, you're just told right now, a true Jew is one who's spiritual, circumcised spiritually, born of the spirit, united to Christ. And now, I'm going to show you this is the teaching of the entire New Testament. And I'm going to show you what the New Testament says about those Jews who reject Jesus. They're said to be fake Jews. They're not really Jews. In fact, would you be shocked if I showed you Paul saying, "The Jews who reject Jesus, they're actually Ishelites. They're the sons of Hagar, the descendants of Ishmael. They're not the descendants of Sarah." Would you be shocked if I showed you that?
Yes.
You would be shocked, right?
That's a huge thing.
I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you from Paul. But I want everyone to hear. She's going to be shocked when I show her. Paul's saying the Jews who don't follow Jesus but follow the law of Moses, they are actually the descendants of Hagar, the descendants of Ishmael, they're not the descendants of Sarah. Galatians 4:es 21 to31. It's right there. Galatians 4 21- 31. It's right there.
Tell me who you want to be under the law. Are you not aware of what the law says? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave and the by the free woman.
His son by the slave woman was born according to
Get closer to the mic so we can hear you.
His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh. But his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.
These things are being taken figure. The woman represented represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Si and bears children who are to be slaves. This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Si in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem.
Now did you catch it? Jerusalem on earth is Hagar.
Okay.
Did you hear it?
Yeah. Hagar stands for Mount Si and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem. Okay.
So, here you are a pro-Zionist, pro-Israel. You are fighting for the Jews who are living in the land that Paul said is the land of bondage. The land that enslaves the descendants of Hagar, not of Sarah.
Okay.
I didn't say that. Paul just said that, right?
Yeah.
Okay. Now, then what is true Jerusalem? And who are the true sons and daughters of Sarah? Now keep reading.
Okay. Um, but the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written,
"Be glad, barren woman, you who never bore a child. Shout for joy and cry aloud, you who were never in labor, because
oh, because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband." Now you brothers and sisters like Isaac are children of promise.
Who are the children of promise who belong to Isaac?
Who's he talking to?
Christians.
Yeah. Okay.
But the Jews who reject Jesus, they are sons of Hagar. Keep reading.
Okay. At that time, the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the spirit. It is the same now.
It is the same now. Notice just like Ishmael who was born of the flesh, not of God's promise because God didn't promise that he would give Abraham a son from Hagar. That so Ishmael was simply their human decision to do so. But God did promise to give Abraham a son from Sarah. And just like in Genesis 21, Sarah told Abraham, "Get rid of the woman, the bond woman, the bond woman and her son. M
because he has no share with Isaac. And God said, "Listen to what Sarah said." And so here Paul is saying just like in Genesis 21, God had Hagar and her son banished from Isaac so that she was removed. Paul is saying, "You too, you Christians, you are like Isaac. Get rid of the bond women and her son." And who are they? the Judaizers, those Jews who are telling Christians who are not ethnically Jewish, you have to keep the law of Moses and get circumcised. And he says they are Ishelites. Have nothing to do with them. Get rid of them.
Okay, finish it though. All the way to 31.
Get rid of the slave woman and her son. For the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son. Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.
Wow. So, I want to ask you a question. I'm a little baffled here.
Who are the sons of the slave woman according to what Paul just said?
Um, those that are not going to those that are not, I guess, children of God or will share in the inheritance are not Christian.
Who are they in that context? Who are they? um
the Jews.
Hey, okay,
he's talking about the Jews. That's why he mentioned Mount Sai in Arabia, which corresponds to Jerusalem. Those Jews who still want to keep the Mosaic law, who still want to follow Moses, they are the sons of the bond woman, have nothing to do with them. And what did he say about Jerusalem? Is Jerusalem, is that the true Jerusalem? And is that the Jerusalem that God delights in? Or is that the Jerusalem that is represented and typified in Hagar, the bond woman, not the free?
No, I think what you said, the one that's typified.
Don't think what I said, he said it there. Galatians 4:21-25. Right. I didn't say. So, make sure you're understanding what you're reading,
right? So Jerusalem on earth is that the true Jerusalem that lights God's heart or is that the Jerusalem that is typified in Hagar? Hagar the bond woman who gives birth to children in slavery who are not free. What is that Jerusalem on earth? Any tear from you? Because if you're silent I can't read your heart here. Let me try to reach your heart. What is the Jerusalem on earth?
The Jerusalem on earth is just a mapped out piece of land, I guess, over in next to Egypt.
And who points to that Jerusalem, Sarah, or
is it saying that Hagar points to that Jerusalem?
Then you didn't read it with understanding. See, that's why I got to ask you questions. If you don't understand, you're not going to get the point. Reread Galatians 4 21-26 until you get it.
Okay?
Read it. You're not going to go anywhere until you get it. If you don't get it, then you're not going to see it because the indoctrination of the church he went to is very heavy. And by the power of the Holy Spirit, may he set you free from that indoctrination. Read Galatians 4:21-26. Reread it.
For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and by free woman. His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh. But his son by the free woman was born as a result of a divine promise. So I'm just stopping so I understand everyone
promised. Yeah. Who was promised?
Isaac was
was Ishmael promised?
No.
Exactly. So now pay attention which Jerusalem corresponds to Ishmael and Hagar and which one corresponds to Sarah and Isaac. Pay attention now.
These things are being taken figuratively. The woman represents two covenants.
Wait, the woman meaning Sarah and Hagar represent two covenants. a covenant made on Mount Si which corresponds to Jerusalem on earth and the other covenant that is heavenly. Keep reading.
Okay. One covenant is from Mount Si and bears children who are to be slaves. This is Hagar. So this is the one of the flesh. Now Hagar stands for Mount Si in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem.
Can it be any clearer? You just read it the second time. Okay.
So the Jerusalem on earth is who figuratively
is is figuratively Hagar which is the the children that are were born of the flesh which was Ishmael.
And so which children is Paul saying are Ishelites? Who's he talking about? Because he said two covenants. The covenant of Mount Sai that was made with who?
The Israelites.
You know you just admit Israelites are the sons of Hagar. That's what you just said if you understood what you just said because if the covenant of Mount Sai which is in Arabia which corresponds to Jerusalem that is symbolized in Hagar that means all who belong to that covenant are the sons and daughters of Hagar but that covenant was made with the Israelites.
This is a lot to take. You better believe it. But you asked. I can't lie to you. I can't tickle your ears. If you believe your New Testament, Paul, who's a Jew, so he's not anti-Semitic, just told you the covenant made on Sai, which is Jerusalem on earth. that is now typified, represented, symbolized in Hagar because Hagar is the bond woman who gave birth to a son who was in bondage. And these Jews, if they're trying to now merit righteousness before God by keeping the Mosaic law, they will be in bondage to sin and they will come under God's wrath. So, understand the point. Earthly Jerusalem after rejecting Jesus is no longer the Jerusalem of God. Then what is the Jerusalem of God? Well, read continue.
Okay.
What is the Jerusalem that delights God, that pleases God, which Sarah represents?
Okay,
keep reading.
But the Jerusalem that above is free and she is our mother. For
what's your mother? the the free Jerusalem.
And where's that at?
I don't think it's an actual place.
No, it is. It's heavenly Jerusalem.
Okay,
that's where you got to know your Bible. It's Hebrews 12:22- 24. And Revelation 21 says, "And I saw Jerusalem coming down out of heaven like a bride adorned for her husband."
Okay,
that's why I got your Bible. So, which Jerusalem is the Jerusalem that delights the heart of God? the heavenly Jerusalem in Hebrews and Revelation
and go to Hebrews 12:22- 24 to show you that the real Jerusalem is the one in heaven and it's coming down at the end of the age when the Lord returns. Hebrews 12 uh 222 to 24. So you don't think I'm making it up. Hebrews 12:22 to 24.
Okay. But you have come to Mount Zion to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.
The what? the heavenly Jerusalem. So
there's a Zion in heaven,
I guess. So
don't guess. Come on, sister. Don't guess.
According to this, yes.
So there's a Zion in heaven.
Yes.
And that's a city of the living God.
Yes.
Heavenly Jerusalem.
Yes. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven.
You have come to God, the judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,
to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
So in heavenly Jerusalem, that's the city of God. Yes.
And in that city of God, you have Zion and Jerusalem.
Yes.
And who lives there? God the Father. Who lives there? Jesus Christ. Who lives there? Myriads of angels. Who lives there? The spirits of those who died in Christ who are now perfected because their bodies are in the dust. Their spirits are there. And what are they having there? They're having church. Because there's church there, right?
Right.
So which is the true Jerusalem that God delights in?
The heavenly Jerusalem.
Exactly. Because you remember what Jesus said when the Jews rejected him, the kingdom would take be taken away from them and the city and the temple were destroyed as a sign that God was done with them. Go to Galatians chapter 3.
Okay.
Now, I want you to see who the true offspring of Abraham is. Are you ready?
Yes. Read Galatians 3:15-18. Galatians 3:15-18.
Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established. So it is in this case. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture say and to seeds meaning many people but
scripture does not say it says scripture does not say and to seeds many people but to seed.
Okay.
Right. Because you must the way you read it I heard you saying scripture says and to seeds.
Okay. Oh does not say and to seeds.
Yeah. Now read it. meaning many people but and to your seed meaning one person who is Christ.
So who's the true seed of Abraham?
Christ.
He is the seed, right?
Yes.
The one person Christ. He is the seed, right?
Yes. The one seed. Yes.
All right. Now go to Galatians 3:26-29. Now watch this. Galatians 3:26-29. So in Christ Jesus, you are all children of God through faith. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free.
Wait, there's no longer Jew nor Gentile?
Yes.
So why are you making a big deal over Israel against Palestine? Um,
reread that again.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female. For you are all in one Christ Jesus.
For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
And then what are you? If you're in Christ, what are you? 29. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and hes according to the promise.
Wait, sister, the seed of Abraham are believers in Jesus who are baptized into Jesus.
Yes.
So a Gentile who believes in Jesus and is baptized in Jesus, he is the son. She is the daughter of Abraham, the seed of Abraham.
Yes. So why are you making a big deal over the state of Israel and taking their side over against Palestine? You don't take anyone's side. You just read from a Jew. Those who are baptized in Christ, ethnically Jewish or a Gentile or a male or a female, you're all one. And you are the seed of Abraham. Abraham is all of your father. He's the father of all of you. So now a Jew who rejects Jesus, Netanyahu, and a Palestinian who loves Jesus and he's baptized in Jesus. In the eyes of Jesus, which of those two is the real Jew?
The Palestinian is
you just destroyed your case for being pro-Israel.
This is a lot. You have to understand. And
I know it's a lot because you've been indoctrinated like I was. But what I'm trying to get at is if you believe your Bible and you let Jesus tell you what to believe and the Holy Spiritfilled apostles and the New Testament writers, Paul wrote that he's a Jew. I didn't write it. I didn't write Galatians 3. And in Galatians 3, he told you there's neither Jew nor Gentile, Greek, neither male nor female, neither free nor slave. You are all one if you've been baptized in Christ. And all of you are the seed of Abraham.