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Think she thought I left her to go see another girl and went home with her. So, she took the uh, she flattened all my tires. She took, she took the valve stem plugs out and flattened all four of them.

Oh, wow.

And I was like, I was in jail. You're flattening all four of my tires. Like you don't even have a clue where I'm at. It's like that was a rough morning. That was, that was probably one of the most miserable mornings I've ever had. The reason they pulled you over, probably swerving all over the place if you were that drunk.

Well, I think I was doing pretty good.

You do?

Yeah. I still, to this day, I don't think I should have been pulled over. So, okay. So, they drew my blood, started doing a test. Um, apparently I only had like six pints of blood in my body. So, it was extremely low. That's when I got diagnosed with uh, with cancer.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. I was 27. So, I think I was, think 2013 right there. So, I got four guns in my apartment. Then she knows I'm high. She knows I got somewhere and she knows I'm a felon. So, it's like I'm done with, you know, like my, I am like I'm go like, Yeah. I'm done. Like what? Yeah. Done. And that's when I really got sober is when that's when I really gave up drinking is when he, when he come, when he was born, ladies and gentlemen, let's go.

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So, uh, thanks again for coming in. Uh, this is Breaking Chains, the sober mindset. I'm Rodney Hood, and today we have my, uh, new friend, Mr. Larry Christ. Say hello, Larry.

Hey, how you doing?

Yeah, it was, uh, it wasn't a bad drive, man. Uh, I took the back roads coming up by Lake Pleasant and then cut back through this way. I guess they had some traffic or something on uh, 17.

Yeah, probably somebody going down the wrong way of the highway again.

Yeah, probably. Didn't that just happen yesterday?

It happened a few times.

Well, on the 303 I saw the uh, pictures, man. It loo, It was a Mercedes and it looked horrible, dude. It just, I didn't see that one. Car was destroyed. Like, it didn't even hardly look like a car. But yeah, you get a lot of that out here, man. You're from um, Louisiana, Albany, correct?

Albany, Louisiana.

Albany.

So, not Albany.

Albany.

Albany.

There's a difference.

Okay. Go ahead and tell me a little bit about your childhood. Uh, is that where you're from originally and lived there your whole life? And, uh, just, uh, right up and tell me about your family and your upbringing.

Uh, well, I was born and, uh, I was born in Independence, Louisiana, which is, well, I would say 15, 15 minutes from Albany. Um, yeah, I was born and raised there from uh, let's see, I was 18. I stayed there till I was 18. My stepdad uh, raised me since I was 2 years old. And, uh, him and his uncle and his dad, I mean, not him and his two brothers and his dad, which is both my uncles. They went in together and bought 20 acres of land right there in Albany. And they kind of, you know, cleared it, separated it and everything. And you know, we put uh, some trailers and my grandpa, you know, eventually built a house right there. Then my uncle built the house. Um, and then um, my grandpa started leasing 20 acres behind that 20 acres that we owned and started kind of like a rabbit pin, you know, training rabbit dogs and uh, having uh, auctions and everything. So that's kind of what I did uh, growing up was, you know, pretty much came up in the woods hunting. Uh, went to school and stuff like that.

Small school.

Small school.

You said training rabbit dogs.

Yeah.

Beagles.

Yeah.

Okay. That's what my, that's what that's my grandpa did. I didn't do it. I didn't train them, but I would come in after school. I would spray the uh, the pins out. I would feed them and stuff like that. That was my chore for after school, like growing up, my whole childhood.

Yeah.

Nice. Nice. That, that threw me a little bit. I thought you said rabbit training rabbit dogs.

Rabbit.

Well, that sounds like interesting, interesting training technique.

We got to train them rabbit dogs.

And rabbit dogs.

Well, that's cool. That's cool. So then, um, growing up in Albany, what was that like?

Uh, well, the town's got one red light, so you can just imagine that is. But it was, it was nice kind of being growing up in the woods in a small town because you wasn't around uh, I really don't know how to say it. Uh, it was just a small, like a bunch of people like a city. Like I sure I couldn't imagine growing up in a subdivision or in a city where you don't have the free will to go in the woods uh, to get on a four-wheeler to get on horses to go ride, you know, just that freedom of being able to explore what's out there and living in the, you know, the wilderness, man. Living growing up in uh, a subdivision, I wouldn't, you know, no, I couldn't do it.

I hear you. I mean, if you, Yeah, I' I've done both. So, growing up down there, uh, brothers and sisters, yeah, I got, uh, well, uh, I'm the only one from my real dad. Uh, I'm a junior and then you got Larry Christ senior. Um, so my stepdad is Timothy Hoy, uh, senior. So, he's got a he's got a boy, Timothy, uh, Paul Hoy Jr., which called Gator. His nickname is Gator.

Okay.

Uh, then I got a stepsister, uh, Miranda.

Not, Yeah.

half sister.

Not step, half sister.

Uh, Miranda Hoy. So we got the same mom but different dads.

So two, you got two juniors in one family?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Two juniors.

Yeah.

Interesting. Well, that's cool. And they're close to your age or younger or older?

Uh, my brother is 10 years, Yeah. Exactly 10 years younger than me. And my sister is the middle one. And don't let, I, I'll lie if I tell you how old she is. She's, she's a little younger than me. So, but yeah.

Yeah.

You don't have to.

She was born, she was born like 93 maybe.

So, okay. Well, that, that pretty much gave away your age.

Yeah, I just, I couldn't remember exactly.

No, that's all gay. What, what kind of relationship do you have with your brothers and sisters?

Uh, it was, we great relationships, man. Uh, we always been there for each other, especially growing up. Um, we always had each other's back. We, we all, but we also went our different ways as well, you know, but at the end of the day, you know, if we needed something, we can call on each other and we'll take care of one another.

Sure.

So, mom and dad, you said stepdad. So it was your mom and your stepdad and your two step siblings, which a half, half siblings.

Half?

Oh, they're half.

So yeah, I have a half sister.

So it's basically they're, Yeah, they're blood.

Yeah, they're, you consider them their brother and sister.

Okay.

Very cool. And uh, what kind of relationship did you have with your parents?

Uh, with my, with my real, Well, the ones that you lived with and then you can talk about your father.

Well, uh, we had great relationships. You know, my, my dad, well my step, my my dad want to raise me, you know, Tim. Um, they was always go-getters, you know, they was in survival mode uh, since the very beginning. Um, they was always doing what they had to do. Uh, they, they was really into the dirt work, you know. Uh, they, they, I know they, they started their own H&H trucking uh, at one point where they had their own 18 wheelers, dump trucks, a few dozers and stuff and they did dirt work on the side and but they also traveled for work doing scaffolding and dozer work. Uh, any kind of dirt work that come up, worked in plants, refineries. So they traveled a, they traveled out of state a lot uh, growing up so it was always gone a lot but they tried to stay home and work as much as they could but especially during the winter time work is slow for dirt work, you know, so got to go where the money's at, for sure.

Yeah, pretty much so uh, well on that topic so them being gone a lot did that uh, what kind of uh, stuff were you getting into because I mean that is not, you talk about freedom, that's how old were you when they were going away like this?

I, I was in my early, my early teens, probably 13. 13 to 16, like the worst, the worst age for dad to leave. And mom hated it. Like she was counting down the days for him to come back. And I bet I gave my mom a hard time. And I know I shouldn't have, but I definitely did.

Yeah.

Okay, we'll talk about that a little bit. How, how were you the uh, hard time kid?

Oh, I, I was horrible, man. I, um, I, I was a great kid. I wasn't a bad, I wasn't a bad kid, but I always stayed in some type of drama or I was always causing something or always getting on somebody's nerve. I, I aggravated my mom. I just pushed her to her buttons. I, I don't know how I did it, but I just did it.

Yeah.

I don't know. She, So, I mean, a lot of people that end up going drugging and drinking and, you know, getting into a deep had a really shitty childhood, but it sounds like you had a pretty ideal childhood, right?

We, man.

Well, I mean, we grew up watching wrestling and stuff. So, like where, where we bought where we had our land at, you know, it was also had as growing up though had more people buying land. At first, it was just a long dirt road. Didn't have gravel. So, we was the only ones really back there. And you talking like a four mile long road. And uh, but start as time went by, people were buying up land. So, you had more kids moving in. So, at some point, we had like 20 of us that was all the same age. And then, Yeah.

Yeah, we would have like a group of us over here that would all get along and then we would like, we'd all swap groups of who liked who at certain times and we would all watch wrestling. So we had wrestling match on trampling plan. So there's always some kind of somebody's mad at somebody upset and you had, Yeah.

It, Yeah.

We had fun, you know, but we also had uh, you know, fights that went on and stuff, but it was all, you know, friendly stuff, you know, and in the end, Yeah.

So a lot of, I would imagine kegs and and bonfires type stuff.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

When we got, when we got up, Yeah. towards 17, like 16, 17, you know, getting closer to that age.

Yeah.

We started drinking more and having bonfires in the fields and just going mud riding. That was our thing, man.

Mud riding is a big thing that we, Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's like a whole culture.

Oh yeah.

No question about it. Now, uh, when, Tell me what was high school like for you? Like what kind of guy would, would people say you were in high school?

Well, I mean, uh, if you go to my freshman year of high school, I was, man, I was short and fat. Uh, uh, but I was, I was, I was shy. Yeah, I was, I was definitely shy. I didn't do sports or anything like that. Uh, kind of an introverted kid then.

Yeah, I really, I was, I, I wasn't like a preppy kid, as they would say, but I was still popular. People knew who I was and everything, but I didn't look to fit in with anybody. I really did myself. And I had my few friends that uh, I hung out with and that I socialized with and uh, we had fun. We was uh, we was the kids that watched Jackass and did that type of stuff. We wanted, you know, do them kind of pranks and everything. I look back at it now like, man, we really was, we, we look just stupid doing that kind of stuff but we just wanted to like, we was just outgoing and we just wanted to stand out and you know, like just so many people was just so stuck on you got to be so perfect with everything, you know, you got to live life, you know, we just, you know, we, we enjoyed being to ourselves and doing our own things and hey, if they made fun of us, hey, that's what it was, yeah, first time you ever came across uh, drugs in your life like out at a party, whatever.

Saw somebody had a, somebody had a, you know, some pills. What was the very first time? And what did that do to your like mind? Did you were like, "Oh my god, what is this?"

Well, I mean, well, the first, Well, I mean, the first time that I ever seen any type of drug, I was young. Uh, that's when my real, my real father was, I was, me and him had a on and off relationship. Uh, he would be in and out of the picture. He, I would may, I would see him, he we may go three or four weeks straight seeing each other but then he may be gone for two years or a year or 7 months, you know, he was in and out a lot so but there was times that uh, when I was, I would go see him and he was always drinking and then, you know, smoking stuff but I at that time I didn't know what he was smoking cuz I was young. I, I remember the first time, the first time I knew that he was doing something I wasn't supposed to see cuz my uncle asked me if I would go, you know, go hang out and play with Brad, which was his uh, his son or stepson or something. And that was when Green Bay was playing uh, the New England uh, Patriots uh, in the Super Bowl.

Okay.

So that was like 199 or nine or something like that.

That was far.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. That was a long time ago. So, so I was that young uh, when that was kind of introduced into my life, seeing somebody smoke and drinking and everything.

Did your dad use anything else besides drinking?

Uh, man, as far as I know, no. I mean, yeah.

But that's kind of where you first saw it and and how do you think that affected you at all as a kid? Your dad being your dad being absentee?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. That, Yeah, that, that affected me a lot for sure. Um, but I mean, I can't blame, I can't blame, you know, any, I don't, I don't blame anything on him.

Sure.

You know, you know, he, he did what he had to do, right?

No, I get that. But coming from somebody that had a dad that wasn't always there, and when he did show up, he'd be shitfaced on his Harley and throw my little 5-year-old ass on the tank and, you know,

Yeah.

There was times that uh, he, he, I, I remember one specific time that I was probably maybe six or seven and uh, I was sitting uh, sitting on the front steps waiting for him, whatever. And he showed up. He showed up. I don't think he was even driving and he had some friends with him and stuff and they was just so intoxicated and stuff that my dad Tim, you know, he, he, he was like, no, you ain't going nowhere.

No.

And, and thank God that I had somebody like that in my life to keep that from even though that was my father, you know, but still I needed that protection, you know, cuz my, my dad, you know, he was fighting his demons at the time.

So, of course.

Yeah.

Well, if you look back at that at, at your age right now, you have kids, right?

I got three.

Yeah.

Okay. So, look back now and just imagine your dad being your same age that you are right now and um, and also, you know, drinking and having, having your demons on top of it. I mean, it's, it's, it's a tough go, man.

Oh yeah.

But you can relate now that you're older and you are a father. But when you're a kid, you're just like, "Whoa, what is going on?"

Well, I mean, I, I kind of still uh, I'm still following my father's footsteps, per se.

Sure.

because I'm doing some of the things that he did and that's kind of the, I kind of feel like um, we, we was meant to do the same purpose, same calling in life, but he got sidetracked with some trauma and everything that, that kind of kept him some dark areas that kept him moving forward and it, it took him earlier. It took him out of the game earlier than uh, he should have.

Sure.

And now it's, it's my job to keep on uh, pushing for our name, you know, that, that's why I'm here.

Yeah.

So yeah, but and so, so I, I completely forgive my father for everything because uh, I, I, I, I reached out to some of my family, my some of his family members, his half, his half brothers and sisters and uh, kind of heard of some of the trauma that he went through and made me understand some of the stuff that he, that he went through and why, why, why he did some of his choices.

100%.

Yeah. So, uh, before we even go any further, how long you been sober now?

This time?

This time, uh, 911. This year, make two years.

Awesome. Congratulations, man. Um, I'm just at, you're like, you're in 5 months now, so I'm a little behind you, but I, I we're kind of on that same journey. Um, this was the one and only time for me, but you said you've uh, you've been sober several times. Tell me about that, man.

It's really, It's hard. hard to go that far back and really think does if give you all the details of how when I got sober and wasn't sober cuz I, I would say I started pills and pills and drinking probably when I was 15, 16 in high school. I started taking pills and drinking like the Bicardio3 drinks and stuff like that cuz that was a drink we can get from down the convenience store down the, down the road, you know. And um, so I started drinking then and of course that went all the way through high school and I kept on drinking, man. I got my first DWI when I was 18. Hey, before we touch on that cuz we're going to jump on that right after this. Go back to you said so I started out on pills. Tell me a lot. Tell me where do you got the pills? What kind of pills? Like and then how, how that kind of progressed because when you say that people are like, what, what pills?

Well, I know how a lot of people get pills. They find them in their own house, right?

No, man. No, no, no. No. Um, Oh, man. Uh, if my mom and my and my dad, my stepdad Tim, if he if they knew I was doing that and he, I think my dad knew that he, he knew I was drinking and stuff, but I don't think they knew I was taking pills and everything. Um, and far as pills, you know, for the people that don't know exactly, uh, uh, it was anything from like Lord Tabs, uh, SAS, Xanars, uh, Xanax.

Yeah.

Just, Yeah.

Yeah. Any, you know, that's pretty much what it was. Methadones, uh, man, uh, Oxycottton. We had Oxycottton at one time. Um, yeah. Pills like that.

Okay.

And that became a huge deal. Oxies and what do they call stuff? Blues and all the, all these different street names. They, Yeah, they got all, Yeah. I don't know what they even calling it stuff anymore. You know, it's been so long since I did anything like that. But yeah, that's what it was then. You know, Darvis, they had Darvis, coladains, you know, stuff.

Yeah.

All so the gamut. So you guys were doing pills at 15 years old. So,

Well, I mean, we wasn't doing all that at 15. It started off with the drinking and then like say like 16 we may have been introduced like the sas or something and then it kind of like your senior year got into like lure tabs and lore sets and then I know I was, I know I did oxy cotton my first time my senior year in high school.

Okay.

So it like progressively got worse. It started off something you say small but you know nothing's really small like that but yeah it progressed over time for sure.

Yeah.

No doubt about it. I, I just wanted to, you know, get that out there cuz so many people my age. We're, we're come from the drinking age. The b, it was the baby boomers drank more than we did. And then our generation X, we, we drank a lot, but it's slowly tapering off and it's going down. And then when the pills came into the picture, I mean, we didn't have pills. I

Mean, we didn't do pills back when I was a kid. I I would have no idea. I really do pills and I drank, honestly. And a lot of people do. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so that that's a totally different thing.

I mean, the demographics of people that watch these videos are generally like 35 to 55, right? In that age. That's why I was like with slang words and stuff be like, "What's a zany bar? A Xanax." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. Um, so at that age, it probably didn't seem like much of a problem, right? You were just partying with your friends and having a good time.

Uh, well, I mean, we knew it was a problem, but uh, man, it wasn't affecting you. Ah, man. We was living our life that small town, you know, like we like I I was a good student, you I was passing my classes, you know, I didn't make back. I mean, French, I I failed French. If I didn't fail it, I passed it with a D, but I mean, there you go. At least I I graduated, too. So, I mean, um and uh so we knew we was doing the wrong thing. We knew we weren't supposed to doing that, but that was our way out, you know, cuz we didn't have much to do. And that was just, man, it was it was just there. So, we did it. Absolutely.

So then it comes to the 18th birthday of Mr. Larry Christ. Explain to me from the from the moment you woke up until you ended up in jail.

Uh well I remember well I it wasn't I don't think it was on my I don't think it was my 18th birthday like the day of my birthday. I think it was like the weekend. I think I think it was the week the weekend after my actual birthday we actually would celebrate cuz me and my best friend my birthday was on the 1st and his was on the 4th. So, we always went out on that weekend and all celebrated and uh yeah, that was just one night we just all went out and drinking Ja Meister and stuff and I had one too many shots and tried driving to the house and got pulled over and well, you know, you go to the uh police station.

Okay. Well, you got to break it down more than that. I can tell you my my DUI story in great detail. So, where where were you coming from? You're coming from a bar you go to all the time.

Yeah, we uh Yeah, we was in Hammond, Louisiana. That was where all the nightclubs are, you know. And uh we always went to it was called extra innings and they had the Buzz, they had uh Chevys, we had Tops and Bottoms. We had we had our fair share of choices at where we want to go to, you know, and uh we it was like a pretty much like a block. You would have extras over here and you had the Buzz over here and pretty much you just park in there and just walk back and forth each bar and you have fun. And man, I I just know we just kept on taking shots after shots shots. this buy one get one free or it's ladies night or it was something it's always something going on. So the the consumption of alcohol that you want is at any level that you can get your hands on, you know? As long as you're tipping a little bit of money, nobody cares, right? And man, I I don't know what happened honestly. I know I got in the car and I started driving and I I know when I got pulled over, I pulled over, man, I was a Wendy's uh drive-thru. It's some fast.

You were in the drive-thru? No, I I pulled off a ward line and like cuz he got behind me, you know, he pretty much seen me pull out the bar and follow me through the red light, went through there and the fast food places were over here. So when he hit the lights, I was like, "Well, hey, that it's done with." So I I just seen the nearest little place to pull over. I pulled in there and uh by the time I was even able to try to get out the car, they didn't have like four or five of them be, you know, more cops behind them. And uh I remember I tried I was telling him that uh I just gra you know I was about to graduate high school and everything and I was going to college and stuff and this is going to ruin everything and I thought it was going to work but no it didn't work. They put me in the cuffs, put me back in the car and you know took me to the police station and I got out the next day. So yeah. So I spent the night.

So what was the deal back at the bar? You guys flipping quarters or was your it was your truck or why did you drive?

Oh. Uh, that's that's how we got around town. We drove. No, I mean you drove everybody in your No. Well, no. I mean, we're separate. I was I was by myself that night. Well, we there by oursel, but I mean, we all meet there cuz we it Yeah, we all do our separate things and we, you know, Yeah, we Yeah, it was so many of us. We all got separate vehicles and we all just meeting up here and there and then, you know, the bar closed down. Some people would go to afterparty. Well, I felt like going home, so I got my ride. I'm gone, you know.

So, did you um did you blow? Did you walk the line? Did you do field sobriety? What What was the test?

Uh that time that time. I like it. That That time uh I I don't No, I don't think I blew in anything. And I They didn't I wasn't in no shape to do a soriety test.

Oh, I got you. Yeah, I Yeah, I was. Yeah. Fell out of the Yeah, I was I was toast. So that that that's a court issue right there. That that that should have been that should have been brought up in a court of law. Um why they pulled you over in the first place. to look like they're they're, you know, walking out the bars. Well, of course, I I had my lawyer and it all got taken care of. I ended up being like a little misdemeanor. Yeah, I did some Didn't lose your license? No, I did a little community service and everything. Being 18 even, you wasted drunk.

I I had a pretty good I had I had I had I've had the same lawyer my whole life and he has never let me down through anything I've been through. So, that pool he has in the backyard, you paid for that partially. Yeah. Okay, fair enough.

Well, okay. So, sounds like you got out of that one. So, that's a slap on the wrist, right? That didn't teach you any lessons. That just mean if I got enough money, I can get out of whatever.

No, it it's not about the It wasn't about the money. It was just knowing the right people. Where I'm from, like I said, small town and when you know, you got the right family and you just you the right, you know, like even you know the right people. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. respectful family and we just know everybody and you know when you are a good like I said I was a great kid grow I was a good kid you know I wasn't bad or anything so when you when you know somebody's wrong and they just got involved in the wrong thing or something I mean why throw why throw them away for you know some people do need a second and sometimes a third chance so absolutely no I I I was just giving you crap it's just the the lesson learned was you know for a younger person 18 years old still I mean the lesson learned was hey man you know maybe I can get out of this Again, it's all about Yeah. Not No Not really, but it's all about resources, though, you know.

Um, so so after that, okay. Water under the bridge, misdemeanor. Didn't lose your license. Didn't have to go to the classes. Didn't your insurance didn't go? Did you?

No, I had to do AA. I did. Oh, you did? Yeah. I mean, I didn't really take it seriously. I took it more I was still drinking while I was doing that, you know, like that. It It didn't teach me no lesson. Um, it scared me for a little short period of time, but, you know, life goes on. you know, friends are calling, the girls are out there, we're going out there on ladies night. It's still it's still happening. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, um not saying it's right, but that's what we was doing.

So, how long was you said that was first of how many have you had total? Two. Two. Two. Okay. Well, I probably should have a lot more than that, but yeah, I got two on two. They I don't think they even on record to be honest with you. That's awesome. You should probably know that, too. I should have had about 300 per year cuz I drank and drunk. I I have I have been in one two two two serious wrecks. Uh drinking while I was the one driving been in two wrecks and luckily I had somebody with me both times and luckily we both walked away both times. Both times we hit a tree. Yeah. Both times you hit a tree. Yeah. Ran off the road and hit a tree. That tree was moving.

Well, me well the first time me and my buddy uh we was probably 18 18 19. Yeah. About 18 19. And uh we was uh at the house playing quarters and stuff and watching Fast and Furious, you know, that's when the you know the movies are real popular. Well, it was kind of raining that day and the road and then so we got done playing quarters. Well, we was going out that night so we was going to drive to his house and get ready and our budd us up from there. He we live like four miles to the road from him. Okay. And uh so it's been kind of raining a little bit, so the roads are are, you know, wet and damp. And uh I had a standard F-150 uh short wheel base and it was lowered. Uh it was pretty close to the ground. Oh wow. And it was going around curves and I dropped it down a gear and I was spinning the tires kind of slide around the curve. Of course. Well, the wheels caught and when the wheels caught like a dry spot, it just like shot us across the road and we went into like a ditch, crossed over the ditch and hit a tree and it when the my side of the truck hit the tree and so it concave like my side of the truck in so it wouldn't crank, it wouldn't start. Oh no. And we like we're pretty close to town. Like we haven't made it to the stop sign yet to get on the highway where you know where the real cops are at. So we freaking out. So we call his brother and stuff and they come down there. They pull us out and they they hook uh some chains up to my truck. So we're dragging my truck back down to my house. The two of the tires, the rubber, you know, the tires don't come off the wheel off the rims, right? So, we're throwing like we're go literally going down the road on rims trying to get my truck back home before the cops even see us. And luckily, you know, either one of us got hurt, you know, but uh is this at night or during the day? No, this is during the daytime. Like I said, we was getting ready to go to his house to get, you know, to get ready to go out for the night, you know.

Pre-partying, day drinking. Yeah. Yeah. We've done a lot of day drinking. Yeah. All Yeah. I'm not proud I'm not proud of it, but I mean I I don't regret it because it got me to where I'm at today, for sure. Oh, no question about it. Day drink is a lot safer. uh for staying away from the police, too. Kind of flying under the radar. Day drinking's fun, but when you make it to the night time, it's like you're just exhaust either one, you're exhausted and you're a party pooper, or you're the one that's about to get in some trouble and wild out. It's one of the two. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to push through and really do it right. Yeah. And that never works out. So, no.

Next morning you're like, So, what what was the second tree you hit and how'd that happen?

Uh me Oh, man. And me and my buddy my uh this is this is one of my uh really good buddies uh growing up in uh grew up together uh at an early childhood. And uh after he he moved to a different school uh when we got into high school and so throughout high school we didn't really talk too much cuz you know at that time we didn't have cell phones and stuff yet. So there wasn't no communication unless we lived down the road from each other or went to school with each other. But uh after we graduated uh we kind of linked up here and there and we would go out with each other. We would go out and just party and just see who can get the most girls or who see who can get the hottest girl, whatever it was. We always had some kind of competition. And uh man, we we we left. It was uh it was a night it was a nightclub. It was Chevy's I think it just opened up and they had so they had a bar attached to it after the main bar closed at 2. Well, the little bar next to it was like a little restaurant plus a little VIP type bar and you had to be on a I think I don't know if you had to be on a list to get in, but I mean you had to know somebody to get in, especially Yeah. And it stayed open like 4:00 in the morning. So, we stayed there party and we just left there going to the house and it was raining one of them nights, too. And I had a uh a Dodge Durango. It was uh we called it the blue hearse is what they called it. It was uh it was a midnight blue color like station wagon looking ones. Yeah. Oh, it well I it was uh midnight blue. I had it was totally it was 5% tent all the front windshield and all it was low to the ground. I think at one time I had 20s or 22s on that time. You guys are gangster though in Louisiana.

Well me and all my buddies man we we our vehicles was our thing. That's how we express who we was. You know we've been doing that since we was young 14 15 years old. We had our first vehicles. We was hooking up audio in them. We was loading them. Any any way to express our our our personality. Sure. And uh they call it the blue hearse, man. And uh it had a V8 in it and stuff, you know. We had to turn down as loud exhaust and uh yeah, we we we hit a tree head on. Um yeah, and man, luckily the airbags didn't go out and so my but my no my when we hit the tree, my buddy, he hit he hit the dash and uh the the it the vehicle cut off and I was like, man, like if this thing we in somebody's yard, too. Like so this in somebody's yard. We went around the road. Oh my god. off into their ditch. Like they didn't have really a ditch, but it was just drop off and it would hit their tree in their yard. And this is a a lowered SUV that this thing may be 7 in 8 in off the ground, you know. And then I'm like, this thing it died. So I'm like I'm freaking out. So this thing don't crank. Then we're in somebody's yard. We're definitely going to jail. Well, I am anyway, you know? I put it back in park and I turned the kill and it cranked up and I was like, "Wow." Like I don't even I can't even fathom like this thing cranking. So then I put it in reverse and somehow I reversed back up onto the road and then he lived maybe two or three turns away from there. We parked, crashed, woke up the next morning. I was still like I don't think I even went to sleep yet cuz like I said that place stayed like 3 or 4:00 in the morning. Oh wow. And uh but I I got up and went home and I when I seen the damage of the front end I had to replace the whole front end on it and yeah that was uh Wow. That was a night for sure. Dang. Yeah.

So, you're building these nice nice builds and then just running into trees. I have a couple. Yeah. You got something against trees, huh?

No, man. It's just bad decisions, man. Bad decisions and uh just like So, are these two accidents in between the second DUI? I'm assuming it was close close together.

They were close together. Yeah. Because Yeah. Because I think after after this wreck, I got my uh I fixed the whole front. I put the body kit on the front of it. Uh and I got it all repainted and everything. Okay. So, it survived. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely, man. It defin Yeah. Yeah, it had to survive. Um but yeah, then after I got it fixed and everything, cuz I remember I went back to them bars. That's where we went all the time. But months down the road or it could have been a year, I'm not sure exactly the time frame, but I I was in that same vehicle when I got pulled over the next time and got DWI. So that wreck and that next DWI was in the same vehicle.

All right, tell me about that DWI. Now, slow down. Let's see that that I I remember exactly what happened. Uh that Well, not exactly what happened to get me to that point, but we went out that night to set the same bars from the first DWI back and forth. That's said that's where we think you thought those cops stopped sitting in that parking lot.

No, they I bet they still sitting there today. I promise they still there. That's how that's how they roll back home. They they wait. They uh Give a public service announcement to your hometown if you're Yeah. Watch out. Watch out on Wline. I promise. Um but no uh yeah, we was all going out that night and me and my uh fiance, girlfriend, we we was engaged multiple times throughout uh that time of my life and uh we was fighting that night or something and uh she was out with her friend and uh I was like, you know, I'm not dealing with this tonight. I don't, you know, had enough to drink. I'm going to house and you know, we do it in the morning. So when I left there, I actually got pulled over uh past it was a little bit past the first time I got pulled over. I made it past Wendy's that time further. Yeah. I was almost my grandma's house. So like my my grandma where I got pulled over that time, my grandma literally probably lived 2 miles down the road. So if I could have made it to her driveway, I would have been all right. But they wasn't letting that happened. Uh so when I pulled over, I pulled over in the car wash into another bar that that's where, you know, that's where they turned the lights on. So that's where I pulled into. So they arrested me there. They left my car there, made me my uh my Durango there. They didn't tell her nothing.

Um Well, what did they say to you when they came up to the window?

Uh man, I I don't remember. You said this was another blackout drunk Dior. Well, I mean, I wasn't like I wasn't blacked out drunk, but I just don't remember what really happened. I just remember when I pulled into the car wash stall, um of course, you know, they asked you to get out and everything. I got out and uh I of course I didn't blow anything. I didn't take any tests. I just I was drunk so I just told him just take me in. Do what we got to do pretty much. It wasn't no you know I was done you know it is what it is for sure. But so uh yeah they took me in and then my dad come and got me out uh the next morning which I didn't want to call him because like you know now I'm like I'm calling him again me and you know a big disappointment you know but he he come and got me. Sure. He brought me back to get my truck and my uh SUV, my Durango. And when we pulled in, pulled in, all four my all four of my tires were flat. All

Four of them. So, automatically I'm like, I know exactly what happened, you know? So, we spent like the next two hours trying to air them up cuz we had to jack each one up to put air in it. And uh, so I get back to our apartment, my apartment where we was, me and my fiance was living at the time. And uh, after digging, you know, find trying to figure out what was going on, she was trying to figure out where I was at.

Well, when her and her friend left the bar, she seen my my SUV parked over there. So, she think she thought I left her to go see another girl and went home with her. So, she took the uh she flattened all my tires. She took the valve stem plugs out and flattened all four of them.

Oh, wow. And I was like, I was in jail. You're flattened all four of my tires. Like, you don't have a clue where I'm at. It's like, So, yeah, that was a that was a rough morning. That was that was probably one of the most miserable mornings I've ever had.

Yeah. And and I'm sure you weren't feeling very well.

No, it was rough. It man.

Yeah. So hung over. And so what ended up happen with that DUI?

Uh, pretty much the same thing. Um, I know it was I know it was still a misdemeanor and and then I did the AA meetings again. I did community service. Uh, I paid some pay some fines. Uh, and I think my license may have been suspended for a little bit of time, but I but I got but I was able to get u a license to be able to drive back and forth to work. So, I think it's like yeah, hardship license. I think I had to do that for like 6 months or something.

All right. Public service announcement to everyone out there who is still drinking or maybe don't don't think this is the outcome that most people get with DUIs.

No, not even close. Most people on your second one, if you got convicted on the first, you're going to do a little jail time, maybe even up to 30 days. And on top of that, you're looking at between 10 and $20,000 minimum for a DUI. So, don't think this is the outcome that generally happens.

No. And I and and and the and I'm not here um like, you know, I have good memories from all that. So, like as I'm here telling my stories, you know,

Yeah. I'm smiling. I feel good about it because I have, you know, memories with my friends and stuff like that. But I honestly I wish I could have made them memories without drinking.

Absolutely. and been I would have been a lot more successful throughout my life. So, drinking definitely don't do that. Uh, pills, don't do that. Just focus on yourself. Focus on you and who you are and you know that's the direction to go for sure.

100%. Yeah. This this um um this channel is simply just about sharing stories from the past, but then also uh connecting with people through your sobriety and letting them know how amazing that it is because it faking is, man. We were talking about that before we started recording about how much how much you get done in life and how there's really not even enough time in the day now because I have so much stuff that because I'm productive. I'm not laying on the couch all hung over. So um we'll get to the uh sobriety stuff later. Um but right now we want to we want to talk about leading up to that and all the um crazy stuff that went on along with it. So um you you talked about getting locked up a couple of times. What what were um what were things that would get you uh get you in trouble with the cops and get you thrown into jail? What what are we doing, Larry?

Oh, man. Oh, well, at the first you got the first two times with DWIs.

Okay. Um my first DWI to my second DWI was really it I pretty much stayed loaded on pills or I was drinking. know me going back then and trying to put things in a certain timeline. Sure, it's it's it's I can do it, but it takes a little bit of, you know, you got to really think about it, but um but uh yeah, um let me think for a second.

No, you're good. I had my uh my DWI when I was 18.

Mhm. I had my second one when I was 21.

Okay. And I want to say right I don't know how old I was but right after that I got I was still taking pills and stuff and I was still me and my me and my ex- fiance was still in bad relationship you know we was we was a like we was a couple like she would work at some bars she would work at the dairy shop so she would always have her attention out there and that kind of stuff. So we always fought with jealousy you know was jealous of each other. So we and then you mix drinking and pills and all this kind of lifestyle you know you deal you dealt with a lot of trauma throughout that as well.

Yeah, it was very toxic, man. I I don't want to do any of that again in my life. But uh so we was fighting throughout this time and we I was kind of hanging around the wrong people and I was always loaded and stuff and uh some this this guy had this brilliant idea. I didn't really like dealing with him too much, but I was at the point in my life to where I was um pretty much selling some pills here and there. And it I always worked, you know, but I was doing this pretty much like selling it and getting it to take it myself as well. Kind of paying for my own my own stuff, you know, so I wasn't taking out of my other accounts for what I did with my money to, you know, build my own stuff up. So, I never really dipped in my pockets to get, you know, hire anything.

Yeah. um you could sell just to supply yourself. So I so yeah so I was load on stuff and he this guy I was hanging out with they he never really did have u he was never really the person that went out to go to work to make his own money. He was always trying to you know basically steal somebody's stuff or whatever to and get some money. Well he told me he needed a ride one evening. Well one night you know to to go uh drop him off. He had to pick up some stuff. Well, it was him and his him and one of his buddies I picked up in my single cab Dakota and we going down the road and I I dropped him off on side the driveway. I'm sitting there waiting for him, you know. They come back out with some stuff and they throw it in the back of my truck and they said, "Hey, just go drop this off and come back." You know, I said, "What what the hell is it?" And uh and at that I was loaded and stuff and so I really wasn't I really wasn't too concerned. I just knew they was like, "Hey, take this. Go drop it off, come back." And I was like, you know what's going on? All right, whatever. I'm going to go do that and be back. And so I went and dropped that off. Come back. Well, they had some more. And I was like, "Oh man, what the hell?" And uh so I went and dropped that off. I said, "Hey, y'all coming?" I said, "I ain't doing no more." I said, "Come on." So I went and brought them back to where they stayed at and where I dropped their stuff at. And I don't remember if I stayed there that night with them or if I went back to my house and the next morning they want me to come pick them up and they was going to pay me some money to pick this stuff up and go drop it off at this scrapyard farm. And I wasn't putting two to two together because I was loaded and everything and I wasn't that kind of person that stole anything and to try to get some money. So I I I really like I said I wasn't putting two and two together. Well, they loaded some of the stuff back up in my truck and we got to the scrapard. Soon we got to the scrapard they had cops already there waiting for us.

Oh wow. And uh so as my truck they had me possession with stolen property of the copper and everything. They stole from the scrapyard that the scrapyard they

Yeah. Yeah. So I got, you know, see where you were hauling stolen goods.

Yeah. Yeah. And I, like I say, I was I ain't saying I wasn't in a wrong, but it it was never my intentions to steal anything from anybody to get any kind of money, you know? It was just me being loaded with the wrong choices, wrong time that put me in that position. But no, I was I was raised better than to steal from anybody.

For sure. Understood. Understood. Yeah. You're just your mind wasn't there.

Yeah. and and I had to go through that whole process getting arrested and stayed in jail for a little bit, but I got out in about two two or three days and I fought that charge with the same lawyer. Um and um I got off on um it was a felony. I I took a felony charge, whatever, but I was off on uh I have no time, so they gave I was on papers pretty much.

Sure. So I was on uh probation. I was on probation for the for it was going to be for like 5 years. I was on probation. So was what did they plead that down to a misdemeanor again?

No, it was it was a it was a felony. So I was a fel I was a felon at that time cuz I had see I had them two DWIs that really I really I think they was going to stay off my record but then why I get hit with this and they're like well hey you got these and they were bringing these back now you we got to get you with something you know but we're not giving you no time but we're going to put a felony on you. So I was like no it wasn't good but you know I was still what am I going to do you know wrong place wrong time.

So, this is the first time you had to stay uh in jail more than overnight. So, you you actually had to wake up uh sober, not being on pills or being loaded or drunk or anything. What was that like sitting in jail by your third day sober?

Well, I mean, um, at that time, uh, yeah, I was on one of them binges at that time cuz, you know, like you got you got where you can do pills and be, uh, and be active throughout the day and stuff and then you got moments where you take pills and you're just on that binge to where you just in some zone that you don't like when you wake up, you don't even know what what you even did, you know? And that was one of them moments where I've been in one of them things for about the week because um like I said, you know, with the jealousy and stuff that me and you know, the relationship I had with my ex and like it's not an excuse, but it just that's what and then and it's the environment you put yourself into as well. And it it was just a bunch of things, man, that just I just I gave in and I was just gave into the to the addiction and it it got rough and that's where I woke up at. woke up in jail and I was like, I'm not doing this no more if I get out, you know, but yeah, more stuff happens.

So, let me ask you this because I know for me, uh, opioids or any kind of pills actually that I've taken before, I had a motorcycle accident, tore my kneecap off, so I was on painkillers. I I never, um, painkillers never did anything for me. And I I so I chat GPT it the other day. Why? You know what? Cuz the type of alcoholic I am is I get the endorphins from alcohol. I get very, you know, life at the party type alcoholic. You know, always super hyper. Some people it's a seditive. Some people makes them tired. That's why they don't have the alcoholic gene and they never turn into alcoholics cuz drinks, you know, one or two glasses of wine. They want to go to sleep.

Yeah. You and I, it probably makes us bounce off the walls. But with me, uh opiates or any kind of uh pills never did anything. Just made me itchy and tired. But some people it's like cocaine for man. So is that what it was for you?

Oh yeah wide open. Yeah defin yeah yeah that yeah any any kind of lauratab laet now somas and stuff like that that would definitely you know or jam bars and stuff that would definitely and colopens would put you down.

Okay. But lord tabs lauretses and uh like the methadones oxycottton I mean we was crushing them and snorting them you know or putting them in orange juice. And then you then we started getting into X pills too. So you had ecstasy coming along with it now. So we starting to roll in the clubs and everything. So that's a whole another addiction thing we was doing. Then you mix cocaine. So like yeah as as the as we grew older we got more advanced in the party scene. And like I said we we partied a lot man.

Yeah. So take me just on a night out. You said man you're doing Molly you're rolling doing lines of blow. I mean my goodness. That that that is that is all out. That is balls to the wall as they would say as far as partying. I mean, the only thing you weren't doing was smoking, crack, and shooting heroin.

Yeah. Yeah. See, that's that's where I drew the line is uh is that kind of stuff. Anything like with needles or any kind of stuff uh meth Yeah. That that's where my line drew. And I'm not I'm not saying anything's better than one another, but that's where I knew like that's that's my line, not the cross.

Man, so for a small town, you guys were partying just like New York City.

Well, well, where I'm from, small town, but we lived like 15 minutes from Hammond, Louisiana. So, you got South Eastern University right there. So, you got that them clubs.

Yeah. So, then you also got 30 30 to 40 minutes. You got Baton Rouge. So, you got Baton Rouge with LSU right there. So,

Oh, yeah. We from the small town, but we knew where to go to have the fun. We went to New Orleans, man. We

Yeah, we plenty of nights on bourbon. You're a road trip away from hell. We we say we take my buddy's expedition, his mom's expedition, and uh we would load up and go to Bourbon Street.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, you didn't have any any problem finding any kind of party drugs at all?

We No, man. Like I said, I had fun, right? I don't regret it, but I also don't encourage it. You were far enough far enough out to get get in your own trouble, but you could find if you needed to find trouble, you were just real trip away for sure. And I I was never well I ain't going to say we was never addicted but we was all functional as they call it addicts to multiple different things. We we worked to make our money to to fund our lifestyle apart in pretty much. And now if we now back in the day if we had Facebook, Tik Tok, Instagram, all that stuff we probably millionaires right now from all the footage we could have had. We would be you know what I'm saying? like if we had what they had jackass, right? We would

Yeah, we would have Yeah. Well, we wasn't thinking about

No, we were just having fun, man. We just tried staying young. That was all.

Yeah, absolutely. So, um you said you've been locked up a couple of times. So, what happened next? What's What's the next time you got in trouble?

Well, the next time I do remember. Um

Okay. So, now So, now I'm a felon.

Mhm. And I'm on probation.

Yeah. Probation on papers and stuff. So, there's only there's certain things you can do. The next time I got the next time I got arrested was 2010. I know that it was it was uh March fe March 2010 somewhere around there. I got arrested that the last time. Um I was at my apartment. Um I lived I lived I stayed in apartment maybe 5 minutes from Southeastern uh University and right down the road from them same clubs. and I stayed in this neighborhood. Um, and I I sold I sold weed and stuff cuz I smoked at the time. So, I was selling it and smoking it. You know, back home it's it's still illegal there and it was illegal at the time. So, just going out and getting weed ain't ain't as easy. So, when you went and got it, you usually got it in bulk. And then when you got it in bulk, you had to sell some to get some of your money back so you're not sitting there broke. So, you can't afford to smoke, you know?

Right. And uh I I just had some people come by that evening. I just got off work. I had somebody come by. He wanted to get like 2 ounces or something from me. The last little bit I had, I think I was actually going to quit quit smoking after that and I uh after that weekend and I had a little bit left and I was like I said I'm I'm on papers. I just moved from Livingston Parish to Tangaho Parish. So I swapped uh parishes and at that time I didn't know if you did that they swapped your POS your parole officers.

Oh okay. So the parole officer I did had, she was like laidback, never checked in, didn't care about anything. I can do my own thing. I wasn't worried about nothing. Like all I had to do is call every now and again, let her know what I was doing. Well, when I moved, I didn't know he's going to switch my PO. So I've been living at this place for maybe about a month, two months now. And uh so I got rid of that stuff. He left [Music] and we was going out that night and I just got done smoking a joint or something and I went took me a shower. I was actually getting dried off about to about to get dressed and everything and I heard a knock on my door and I wasn't expecting anybody cuz it's like 5:00 in the evening. I'm getting just dressed about to go der shop and stuff start hanging out and pre-planning and so uh I got a knock on my door. I come around the corner walking towards the front door and my blinds were open up a little bit and when I when I looked through the blinds I seen this figure behind on the other side you know standing up outside as soon as I seen seen it I knew exactly who it was. I knew what PO it was and I knew she was the most strictest PO in Tangaho Parish. Like I she she is known for going after people just to take them down to put them behind bars. Like she is out to get you. She's a cop. And man, I I just I froze. I didn't know what to do. And so, like I said, I was smoking before I got in the shower. When I get out the shower, I'm still smoking. I got my pipe, you know, smoking my weed. And so, I heard the knock. I hear it again. I'm carrying the pipe in my hand. So, I see her behind the window and I know I know it's her. I still go to that door and I still open the door. And when I open the door, I got the weed pipe in my hand. So I answer the front door with the pipe in my hand and I'm high and I'm just like and so when I open the door and I seen her and like automatically put me on put me on, you know, told me to sit down, put me in cuffs and everything. She coughed you up right there. She had the cuffs on her.

Oh yeah. Searched my house. Uh my apartment. She searched that. Um you smelled like weed. I'm sure when she walked in.

Yeah, definitely. For sure. Yeah. You just blew You just blew a ball.

Yeah. She knew I was high. And she asked where the rest of it was at. like I ain't got no more cuz I I just got rid of what I had left over. But but um with the way I was raised, we grew up as hunters, you know. We we deer hunt, we rabbit hunt, we squirrel

Hunt, we always grew up hunting. So me, being my young age, I technically I'm a criminal, you know, but I didn't know the rules of being a criminal to the tea.

Sure. And I didn't I and I had my hunting gun, my rifles, like my 410, my 20 gauge, my Yeah.

Yeah. I was thinking about it. So I had those. I was proud of my guns. I had them hung up in my room. Hey, she seen that. She was like, she put on she just straight up put me in the car and that was done right there.

So, I got four guns in my apartment. Then she knows I'm high. She knows I got marijuana somewhere and she knows I'm a felon. So, it's like I'm done with, you know, like I'm like my I am like I'm go like Yeah. I'm done. Like what? Yeah. Done. Hold up. So, wow. Yeah. That That's some naivity right there because not knowing a felon can't have firearms and you got them hanging proudly above the bed.

Well, I guess I I can't say I didn't know you I knew you couldn't have handguns and like AR-15s and stuff like that hunting rifle. That but see I like I said I grew up that was that was normal to me.

Sure. So me not having the like automatic gun I that's what I took it as you know. But like I said I I should I wasn't aware of it, you know. I was I was you know they got me.

Yeah, you know, I should have read the paperwork a little bit better, I guess. Man, I can't believe your attorney didn't say now.

Oh, yeah. He probably did. I'm sure he did. I Yeah, Dude, no, I wasn't listening to nobody. I was doing my own thing. Um, I was I like that phrase. I was doing my own thing. I ain't going to lie.

It sounds like you were. Um, so, wow. So, you're sitting in the car. What's going through your head?

Um, I I can't I don't even recall. It was I had my You were high, so you must have Well, yeah.

Well, yeah, but I mean, you know, when you smoke when you smoke so much, you're not really high. You're just you're you're just I understand. I just introspect analyzing. No, I was I was mind blown. Like, it didn't matter. I could have smoke I could have smoked as much I wanted to and it probably wouldn't have brought me to where I needed to be at that time. My my brain was just it was melted, man. I didn't know what to do, who who I was going to I knew I was going to call my mom and my and my dad and stuff, but I was like, what? Like, how do I get out again? This is number four. This is number four. Like this. I'm done.

It sounds like this time they're going to be like, "Look, man. This guy is not learning."

But in the meantime, I don't think you were really trying to do anything like illegally like some kind of criminal. Are you just not paying attention really?

And the thing is I like I like I'm still working. I worked for I was working for uh for uh HBAC company. I was working uh man what's the name? We did commercial air conditioning for like Targets, uh J C Penney installing like the duck and everything. We did some Fidelity Banks and stuff like that. And so I always had a good job and I never really got into any I was never a criminal. It was just always bad choices with drugs, you know, with the addictions. And that's what always got me in trouble. It wasn't because I was out doing crimes. It was just I got caught up doing stuff I known I shouldn't been doing.

Yeah. So now this time, so you what did she literally like call in people to come over and search the house with with like dogs and [__] or what?

No. Well, I mean she didn't need no dogs, but they had one there. She had backup come up.

Yeah, she had backup. So while you're sitting out the car, they're just rifling through all your stuff. Were they walking out with all your guns?

I live I live so I lived in like a pretty much like a little hood I lived in like of apartments, you know, and so everybody's out of their apartments. They all look and see what's going on. I'm just I'm out there looking like they knew what was going on. I'm the only white person that lived in that whole area. And uh my neighbor, me and him actually uh we smoked together, so he already knew kind of what I had, but he already knew what I was going what was going down. And he was telling everybody else over there. But yeah, I was only uh white person that lived in the area, man. And it was probably the funnest place I actually lived in. And uh and they man Yeah. Everybody's out there just I'm glad they didn't have all them cameras back then doing their thing.

Yeah, for sure. So uh so they take you to jail. Um what happens after this? Your attorney coming to talk to you. What is he saying? He he probably just shaking his head walking in.

H I remember I I remember going to the whole thing through that time cuz I wasn't drunk that time. I was just high, right? So, I was I was sober on the way there to the to the Hammond jail police uh station they brought me to. And I remember book them booking me in. And they was they was making jokes and everything. The cops was, "Oh, you ain't getting out of this one this time. We're going to get you for 20 years, all these guns and this and that." So, I'm just sitting here like I mean I I wasn't even entertaining them. I was like, you know, it is what it is. You know, can I call my parents yet? You know, can I get that phone call? I ain't worried about nothing else, you know, you can say what you want to say, make your jokes, make your remarks, whatever. And she was she was that kind of person that she was she was headunting people, you know, and they put me in a sale and they finally transferred me to a meet. Uh that's and when you go from like Hammond and which is Tangaho Parish and then your main Tangaho Parish jail is in a meet. So I went up there, they transfer to there and that's when I got booked in there and I could I called my mom and stuff and uh they we didn't they didn't know how to get me out. I mean, you talking about a convicted felon with firearms and stuff. It's like, that's going to be a tough one to get out of. And then my my Sy was in the cell with, you know, we had bunks and stuff and he's like, "Oh man, you ain't never getting out of this one. This is like this one you are." He's like, "You are not getting out of this one." And so like, and I knew it was kind of serious, you know, a gun with a fell like, and they like, "That's" And then then they tell me like it's it's five it's five years per gun. And then it's like if you had like a magazine your in your thing, it's like one year per bullet that was in your gun. Like, well, thank God I had no bullets in none of my stuff, you know? And so I'm sweating, man. I think I stayed in there for three or four days and I end up getting out. But out on out on bond out on Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Out on bond. My aunt my mom's sister What was your bond? Oh, it was up there. I know. I know. Um my mom's sister uh and her husband put up their land and some stuff. It it was up there just to get me that was just to get me out on bond and that that was and I was on house arrest. I only way I can get out was on house arrest. So I was out fighting that charge on that.

Okay. And how long did that go on for? Uh I got arrested in end of fe the Saints won the Super Bowl. We had we went to Bourbon had the party. That following weekend was a weekend I got arrested somewhere after that. So, it was a it was probably the first weekend of March that I got arrested and then I think uh my last trial date when I turned myself in was that August or September of that same year.

Okay. So, yeah, I was ready to get it done with, you know, you know, I called my lawyer and we got something worked out and I was like, let's let's just do it and get it done with. So, you pleaded out. So, did you end up having to do any time?

Uh yeah, I well I did a boot camp program at Hunts. Uh first the fir the way it works is first you got to go in intake and so I did like two months in a meet uh the the the uh jail right there and that's where you go in that's where you get transferred from there to go to the prisons and stuff. So how was your two months there? What was that man? It was uh I'm not going to say it was good but actually I but I knew some people in there you know I knew some people in there.

Yeah, but they had some bad I I didn't personally have any bad experiences, but I've seen some bad experiences for other people. I kind of stayed to myself cuz I've always been like that. I know in what situations where you just you just sit back and you just chill, you just watch and you just observe, collect your data, you know what to do, you know. So, I kind of, you know, I played, you know, I I played my part and I just did my time there and just made the best of it until I got transferred, which took about 2 months to get transferred to Hunts to uh start my uh boot camp program.

Okay. So, when you're in boot camp, that's not that's not prison. Prison, but it's Well, it's it's in a prison for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hunts is a prison. Okay. Um, you go in first, so you get transferred to the prison and to the the prison system and then you may sit there for 2 or 3 months until you go to the actual boot camp program. The program is inside that prison.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So, yeah. So, you're Yeah. You you're in that prison and you're just doing their program in that prison to get early release. And that's what I I do six six months of the uh just the boot camp program.

Okay. But I end up doing seven months of the boot camp program total. Two Yeah. Seven months total for the program. two months to get to the prison. So that's nine months and I probably did maybe a month waiting in the prison to get into the program. So damn near a year.

Yeah. Close to a year I did. Yeah. So this is all said. Then they tried to give me 20 years. So I only did one year. So one So one year that's better than 20.

Again. Again. Smelling like roses. Same lawyer. Oh my goodness. This guy. Hey, what advertisement? You can go shout out his name. I can't do it, man. I love him. I love him. And uh yeah, he he's he's been good to me, man. He's been a blessing. He he's a miracle worker. There's no doubt about it.

Um so you're at the end of the sentence. You get released now. What are you what are you sitting on now? You're obviously on parole, right?

Yeah, I'm on parole now. So I got I got released 20 thou been 20 I think it was February 2011 I got released.

Okay. Late February, early March. It might have been right before my birthday, March 1st. It was right around that time I got released. And uh but we did the boot camp program and the day you get rel what the reason I had to do 7 months instead of 6 months uh is because that on a 6 month they had some kind of flood back home and they had to bring people from Angola to our prison cuz they was flooding. They had nowhere to put their people had to evacuate them. So once that happened they had to shut down the gates to our prison and couldn't allow nobody to go in or out. So we had to stay through that whole flood process and do a whole extra month as boot camp program for no reason. So that was yeah that was uh that was terrifying there. That was that man that boot camp program it was rough but yeah especially I mean you're coming off of and but I I did have I did have some people in there that I did know that we did the program together with as well. So I I actually went we grew up same town and everything.

Yeah. U my buddy. Yeah. We was in different platoons but yeah we did it together man. each other when you're marching by.

Huh? Yeah. Yeah, man. It was uh it was wild. But uh yeah, when I got out of there, I was on parole. I was actually on house arrest still for I think for like next 6 months. It was like a real strict parole.

Okay. Uh I had a job. I always had a job. So you could work still?

Yeah. Yeah. All Yeah. I always worked and I was on house I was on house arrest with the monitor. I was I had to be home. I had curfews. I couldn't leave before a certain time in the morning and I had to be home before a certain time in the evenings unless I have permission, you know.

Sure. And I would I can do anything I wanted to and and if if I if I wanted to be out late doing something, we just invited everybody over to the house and we just had a big bonfire in the field. So, I mean, it wasn't like they I mean, it wasn't really stopping anything, you know.

Well, I mean, are you getting random um drug test?

Well, I see the PE see when I got out of there. So, I went back to Livingston Parish cuz I had to go I had to go. So it's your So I So I'm back to lives in Parish is totally different. Tango Parish. So I don't have the same PO. I got a different PO. It's a man this time, but he's just as chill. It's a It's a parish, man. Tango Parish, man. And oh man, not what you need. No, you don't want to be over there. So, you know, I I pretty much got to do what I wanted to until I got off that strict uh parole, right? And then after that, I was on I was on parole a total of 5 years altogether.

Okay. And anytime I traveled out of state for work, I had to check in with them, let them know what hotel I was staying at, where I was working at and everything cuz I, you know, I worked turnarounds for work and I travel state to state state to state. So, it was, it was a lot of phone calls I had to make and paperwork and just unnecessary stuff that somebody shouldn't have to deal with, you know.

Sure. And but that's what addictions causes. It causes uh chaos in your life. Yeah. You're going to have to deal with messing up. So, now let me ask you this. after all this um you get out, you're on parole, you're on house arrest, you know, you're having to live your life like a criminal.

Pretty much. So, did did that stop you? Did was that your rock bottom?

Oh, no. No. No. That's far from my rock. I'm still No, no, that wasn't my rock bottom. No, man. No, we still having fun. No. Hey, we still young. So, you still haven't learned the old I haven't had any kids at this point yet. So, you know, I'm still single. still you know I'm you know okay so that 5 years that you're on parole with the with the lazadasical parole officer that kind of let you get away so you were using that the whole time then

oh yeah so that never stopped the party never stopped no party never stopped okay so even folks even basically going to prison for almost a year did not stop this man from continuing down the dark path so what happened after that what what was the next what was the next pro I mean it has to be escalating at this point Because

No. Well, I mean, I mean, I'm getting better as a as uh I was never a bad I was never an an addict to where I never couldn't function. Like I said, I always worked. I was always I always moved up in my life, okay, through my work and my career and everything. I just always liked to party and I always got caught in the wrong places, wrong times, making dumb decisions, you know, like I was never the person that had to drink every day, not do anything productive and stuff like that. So, I mean, it was ne it was never really a rock bottom. I I would say it is a rock bottom being addicted to that stuff, but that wasn't my rock bottom. I don't see I didn't see myself really spiring spiraling out of control at that time. Cuz when I got out of prison, I was actually scared to drink. I didn't drink for a while. I didn't smoke anything for a little while. So, I stayed sober for a little bit and I was focused on getting better, but I was still hanging around the same people, same environment. So, and so that got me back into the drinking and stuff. So I was doing good coming out but then I kept being around the same people and then it brought me back into the same choices, same lifestyle and stuff. That's something. So then then I started going back then if I would have kept going to where I was going then I would then I would have hit my bottom at that time. But I chose I got with my uh ex-wife at that time and that's when she uh she got pregnant and had had a miscarriage.

Okay. And that's that's when um I think that's when I kind of became sober the first time is when me and her got together and she got pregnant and had that miscarriage and I I felt that pain and uh and that I think that's when when I be when I my first time I started trying to be sober and doing the right thing and getting back into uh into becoming in one with God trying to you know that that's when I start I I wasn't perfect by any means don't get me wrong but I was trying to get back on the right road to where I know the right way is.

So, is this the first time that you were serious about getting sober act then?

Um, I I'm not going to say I was serious, but I know I wanted to and I was trying, but I had my ups and downs through it. So, I'm not going to say I was serious, but I know I I was serious about wanting to, if that makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. So, but you So, then you continued on drinking and taking pills. I mean, it sounds like you took pills more than drinking.

Well, at at that time, I think I got I got out of the pills at that.

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I started working into in the refineries at at this time. Um I did a few jobs in plants and refineries prior to this, but this is when I got back into the plant work, pipe fitting, ball making and stuff.

Okay. And that's when you go start doing the drug test, hair follicles, and everything. So, you can't have none of that none of that stuff in your system.

Sure. So, then that's when it was just went to kind of just straight drinking and stuff. So, you had you had to make that change. That's interesting how one vice, you know, go to another one because of because of the uh the drug test rules basically.

Well, I mean, you had to work. I mean, you had to make a living. You still want to party. And I always want I always wanted to be successful. That's always been my dream. Uh to be wealthy, not just rich, be wealthy.

Right. That's always been one of main focuses. And I know doing drugs and you got to pass drug tests, you know, if it prevents you from going get your money, then you got to set aside, you know, but I swapped it for something else. That wasn't No, I didn't really swap it. I just started drinking more is all I did. And that didn't work too well.

Okay, tell me about that. Why didn't it work too well?

Um h man just man just just the nights you know just the nights you'll get drunk and I I've had had a lot of moments to where I blacked out and done stuff okay that uh that you don't really

Recall the feeling of doing it, but you recall bits and pieces of what you done. And when you wake up with that feeling that makes you sick. Yeah. And and where you tell yourself, "I'm never drinking again. I'm never doing that again." And but then you're still doing it. Like you that that same night, you're back to drinking and you keep on telling yourself. That's when it becomes an addiction. And that's when I be that's that's kind of to where I was starting to get get at at some at some point in there. That's where I started getting at. And then I cut it back out again because she had that miscarriage.

And then we kept on trying and she got pregnant again with my son Lane. Uh, he's about he's about to be 12. He was born in uh 2013. Um, so when when we had my son, that's when it kind of really hit me. You know, she had a miscarriage and I just used as an excuse to drink and everything. And uh when we had my son Lane, that's when I really become close to God and stuff. Well, I I I started working on coming closer to God at that time. And don't get me wrong, now in my childhood, I already I knew who Jesus was in my childhood since I was young young and I've been in and out of churches uh growing up, but at this point with my own son, I want to bring him up and to know the right from wrong and stuff like that. So that's when we get started getting involved with church and stuff like that. And um but and that's when I really got sober is when that's when I really gave up drinking is when he when he come when he was born.

Um, and then when he before he was one, that's when I got diagnosed with uh with cancer. Oh wow. Yeah. I was 27. So I think it was 2013. So 12 years ago. Yeah. It's been 11 12 years ago. Yeah. It's been a while. What kind of cancer was that? I I had uh colon cancer. Oh no. Yeah. At 27. Yeah. They uh actually I was working uh in New Orleans for a company called CBNI doing pipe fitting. Uh my little boy, I don't I really don't think no, he wasn't even one years old yet. And uh and um I I worked the eight hour shift that day and I got off work and I drove home to my mom's house. I wasn't feeling good all day. And I got home to mom's house. I laid down. I was feeling kind of tired. I told her I was going to go to the uh in all Benny. We had a um like a walk-in clinic type thing. And I I went in there and I told her, you know, my symptoms, what I was feeling like. And she was looking at my eyes and stuff. And she she kind of freaked out, you know, about my eyes, how they looked and stuff. And she was looking at them, talking about my hemoglobes were it end up being my hemoglob. So that that's what it's like something your blood that transfers oxygen to your brain. Okay. And uh so they they immediately wanted me to go to the hospital. They said, "Are you here by yourself?" I was like, "Yeah." I said, "Well, you can't drive. We can't let you leave. You can't drive." Wow. And they said, "We can either get your ambulance or you can call somebody to pick you up." When mom come and picked me up, brought me to North Oaks. I went in there, they drew my blood, started doing a test. Um, apparently I only had like six pints of blood in my body. So, it was extremely low. Uh, they they started pumping me up blood, my iron was low. They gave me iron infusions and they started running tests and stuff and I had to, you know, go through some other stuff, but and coming to find out it was some pileups in my colon and uh that was causing all them issues and stuff. So, I dealt with that at the age of 27. I think it was. Yeah. Okay. So, they went in, they do a biopsy and found out it was cancerous. Yeah. Yeah. They uh Yeah. They they did do the scope thing and then they went in there and they scraped some out of there and then run some test on it and some of it was cancerous and then uh had had this procedure done to where they went and cut in cut out a section to where it was like bad at and stuff. So, they removed like all the cancerous stuff. Oh, nice. And then they did like the biopsy on it afterwards and they uh got rid of it all so I didn't have to do chemo or nothing like that. Yeah. So that was that's good. So you caught it early enough but that's Yeah. Yeah. It was still definitely an experience for sure. What an eye.

Well, I tell you I tell you what though. After that, man, what during that before everything when that is when I absolutely got the closest to God and that's when God actually spoke to me and I actually made promises to God and that's the reason I made it through that is is because of God for sure. That's that's awesome. I mean, sometimes that's what it takes. Yeah. Um I mean I've I was born and raised Christian uh Presbyterian. Um, and you know, you always lose with your faith. Not everybody, but as a kid growing up, yeah, you know, the guy in the sky, whatever, you have your doubts. And then until something like my mom getting sick and dying of cancer right in front of me. I'm not saying that's what took to make me a believer, but man, that most certainly, you know, opens your uh your eyes to I sure hope there's an afterlife. And you start delving into it a little bit more and um realizing that yeah, it's it's the only way. And I want to see my mom again in heaven.

Um, I have this right here. I'm going to hold up and you can tell me a little bit about this. Um, as you can see, it's got a QR code on there, folks. I'll try to hold it still so you can always pause this and uh, click on that QR code. I'll put it up closer so you can get the QR code in there. So, tell me about this and um, and then we'll talk about 40s Off-Road as well. Uh, yeah, that's my uh, that's my nonprofit uh, organization I'm working on trying to start up. It's called the Christ Jr. Foundation. And it's something after uh got my bracelet. It's after uh of course my last name Christ. And I'm a junior so I want it to be Christ Junior, not just Christ. Sure. Um and it's something I I want to build to be able to give back to people u like young entrepreneurs for people that have visions that want to build something to help people heal like with addictions or help people heal with certain traumas or just physically help people heal, help the earth heal. There's all in general any young entrepreneur that has that kind of vision that I can help give or we help give back to them to help build their small business and maybe open doors for them because there's a bunch of people in this world that have amazing visions but don't have the funds and knowledge or just the resources in general to get them get their foot in the door. So if we can help with just making a phone call, text message, just knowing somebody can help somebody boost them. And so I mean if you can help also fund money like do charity events and fundraisers and and get money together to help give to people like that and you know and build stuff like that around our local communities and everything. So absolutely. So people can uh get to that by um either uh scanning that QR code or you can contact them at 6236808699 and I'm going to put all this in the description of the video below. So, all that information will be there for uh anybody to look at um at any time.

And also, we've got um 40s off-road. Tell me about this. I know you're you're an enthusiast. Tell me all about that. It's 45 off-road. Oh my god. Yeah. 45 off-road. That was uh man, so off-road and I've always been off-roading since I was at a very young age, three or four years old. And uh so I started uh 45 back in 2020 I believe it was. And uh we was big Trump supporters. Uh we still are. Um you know I'm not I'm not getting political with anything but that's where 45 originates from is Trump being the 45th president 45. And uh we kind of built the off-road community to where we went to off-road parks. Like we would get together, we would bring our campers and stuff. We would, you know, have like a little setup in the park and then we'd go off-roading. We'd come back to our campers. We would cook or whatever we done, you know, we just go off roading and just enjoying the weekends and stuff. Very cool. And we and that, like I said, that was in the South and we're bringing that to Arizona. So, we're working on trying to meet new people in Arizona that uh that enjoy off-roading and we're looking to meet new people out here for sure and in that kind of stuff. Very cool. How long you been out in Arizona now? Uh this August. This September, August will be three years. Oh, okay. So, you've been here a minute, so you know all about the heat. Yeah, it gets a little warm. Yeah, a little bit. A little warm.

And uh you you currently work out at the uh the gigantic multi-billion dollar chip plant, the Taiwanese chip plant. I used to drive by that every day uh going to work. Uh what's that like? You you said you're outside working. Uh yeah, it's a Yeah, it's a TSMC plant. Yeah, we work Well, we work inside the buildings, but I mean, you are outside, you know, when you're going point A to point B. So you're outside a lot of the time, but you're also in the buildings and it's base build construction, so there is no air conditioning and stuff in the buildings and everything. So it's still just as hot in there. How do you keep your head on straight working with all these younger guys that probably are still, you know, still in party mode? How how do you keep away from that and and not not be tempted? Well, no. Well, you know, at the level that I'm at now as in supervision, you know, we're, you know, we're pretty much in like the coordination stuff now. So, we're not really around that many people, but we do interact with a lot of different people. And it's it's strictly work related. There is no, you know, like when I before I got here, we had groups of friends that we went to work with, small jobs and everything. This is a big project. And so there we really don't I don't have them groups of people out here that I put myself in with. I keep myself away from that. Like when I'm at work, it's about work, right? And then when I'm outside of work, then it's, you know, my personal time. So I keep them both separate as much as I can. But at work, I do talk to a lot of people and I'm always talking about, you know, God and stuff and trying to bring the the right awareness to the right things, spreading the right message because no matter where you're at, you know, God puts you in these places to keep spreading the word of, you know, of what's right and stuff. So, absolutely. No, that's great, man. You got a super positive outlook on life.

Um, so you have uh you're married now? No, we uh we engaged, but not Okay. And then so you have the um you said three kids. Yeah. Well, me and my ex-wife, we have my little boy and then we have my little girl. So they're 12 and nine. Okay. And then me and my fianceé now, we've been together almost 8 years now. And we have my little girl. She's about to be seven in October. Okay. And they're both out here in Arizona? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have a house right there going towards Cave Creek. Okay. Yeah. Right on. That's awesome.

Um I ask everybody this. Um and I get interesting answers. Uh, if you could walk up to 16-year-old Larry right now. Well, no, we'll say 15-year-old Larry because he was That's when you first started out, the kid with the pills in his pocket and no clue what's coming. What would you tell him manto man? Oh, honestly, I really don't even know what I would tell myself, you know, at that age. Uh, I would honestly just I would just tell him, you know, the same thing that I already knew, you know, because I knew what I needed to know to get to where I'm at, but I I would tell myself to surround myself with more positive influence. Mhm. And around people that bring opportunities to you instead of taking opportunities away from you is is what I could tell him. but still have your fun still still be who you are, live your life, but just make it in a different direction for the better. Surround yourself with the better people and opportunities. Yeah, there's no question about that. Getting sober. Um that is one of the things I mean it's not set in stone, but you do need to step away from some of the former people that you hung out with and uh spent time with. Um if they're still around when you're sober in two years, then hey, they it was meant to be. They're your friends. Kind of like you know the girlfriend thing. Oh, if it was meant to be, she'll come back. Um, but I definitely found out that, um, people that I, you know, that were in my life, of course, I bartended, so you got the bar crowd. Oh, we're best friends, and then you, you know, never talk to them again after you stop drinking. But, um, definitely hanging out with the right group of people is is huge. It doesn't mean you can't talk to your friends that still party, but just changing habits like that.

Um, and touching touching on that, so you've been sober two years now. Um, and what are what are some of the things that that you do to help keep you from relapsing? Uh, man, uh, it's it's it's not hard to stay sober, but you got to stay busy. You got to keep your mind occupied. You got to keep your body moving. Uh, you always got to be you got to be focused on the future. like you have to be in the present moment, but you have to be looking for the future because you have to be planning for that instead of sitting in the present dwelling on the past. And and that's when the that's where I think that's where addiction comes from is just dwelling on the mistakes that you made or the hurt that you've been caused and you're just sitting there instead of your you know your body has to catch up with your mind and your mind has to catch up with your spirit and your soul cuz and and when you're drinking and you and there's more drugs than just alcohol and pills stuff, you know, you got you got drinks that are like regular everyday sodas that are just as bad as drugs and candy. and D and uh there's foods out there that are just bad as drugs. So, and that that's addictions as well. So, that's other things that I cut off is my my food like I like to fast. Um I try to juice as many fruits and vegetables I as I can to stay as healthy as I can. Um I haven't I I stop I've been drinking only water probably for the past three months now. So, I've been, you know, just trying to be strictly just water. And so the more the more addictions you eliminate from your body, the the more you heal and the more conscious you become and you become you then you start learning who you actually are and becoming one with God. And then he start giving you these visions because your mind is clear and you're getting you're sacrificing your body's addictions and that's and that's when he starts giving you the visions and when you start when you start taking action on them visions and he starts feeding you more and he gives you what you need to keep on pushing. But that's what keeps me sober. Yeah. Is by sacrificing more. That's amazing how that works. That's what keeps me That's what keeps me sober is by pushing harder to be sober and doing the right thing. 100%.

Um for me, um speaking on exactly what you're talking about, uh the more the longer I've been sober, the more clear my thought comes and just the more um goaloriented I become. Like I literally every day I wake up excited about, you know, all the goals that I have in front of me that I that I want to achieve. And and again with Chad GPT, that's my that's my favorite new thing. I've been preaching to everybody, man, it's just like having your own personal assistant. It helps you set goals. It'll I I mean, I can screenshot my bank account and it'll it'll give me a budget for the month. It's it's just great. It's just stuff that I would never think about doing. I was taking over for sure. Yeah. But I wouldn't be doing drinking, buddy. I I made great money, but it didn't matter. The more money I made, the more I drank and the more miserable I was. It was just this anxiety ridden, you know, just constant grind, the circle of that never ended. And I didn't see any positive ending in in the future without getting sober.

Um, so physically wise, uh, when you're drinking and doing drugs, you feel like [ __ ] all the time. How do you feel physically now, too? You're sober. Uh man, uh I I feel better. Uh since I quit drinking, I could tell you when I when I quit drinking, I went to the doctor for some I was sick for something and he he weighed me and I was like I want to say close to 298, I think I was. So I was pushing close to 300 lb. Wow. And you're tall, dude. How tall are you? Uh it's like 63 6'4. Oh, you're 6'4 at least. So yeah. So yeah, I was like 300 lb. Wow. And so that's and then I quit drinking and now I'm down to like 215 now. So yeah, 215. So that's I guess about over 80 something pounds I lost since I quit drinking. So you can just imagine losing that weight of how I feel just physically just just feeling better confident wise of not having that extra weight on you is definitely nice. So I can imagine that's a whole another human. Yeah, it's it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. So just that alone, my goodness, you got to feel amazing. And a lot of people, I'm sure they know this, but alcohol is just all sugar, man. And sugar is the devil. Well, well that Well, that and when you're drinking as well, then yeah. Then it caused you to eat stuff that you wouldn't that you know is bad for you. All the greasy processed foods that cuz like you don't care when you when you know like I'll eat two pizzas in a row like sitting down when with no worry in the world, you know. So yeah. So and and um I know for me I have an app called I am sober which I'll put in the description below. It tracks the money I saved. I put a budget of of $25 a day. And that's light on the light side when I was drinking. And the reason I say that, people are like, "Oh, you didn't buy that much vodka. Vodka's cheap." No, it was all the crap I was buying when I was drunk. The money I saved since being sober again is, man, just almost 10 grand a year is what is what I know. I'm well over that for sure. Well, if you're doing drugs, too. Well, I mean, well what I mean you got to think I I quit doing drugs at early age of like I did I stopped doing pills probably around 21. Like I didn't touch pills anymore after that cuz like I said I've been in the plant work and that my this is my care I've been in the same career my whole time. So it's always been drinking the whole time after that. So but um so I know you tal you told what you would say to yourself and that was great your your 16 15 yearear-old self. Um, what about the person that's sitting out there right now that's watching this that is on house arrest that has has um has to get go to work release uh you know hardship license just to get to work. Um you know and drugs and alcohol put them in this place. What would you tell that person cuz you've been there? Oh man that that's that I really don't know what I would tell them cuz I nobody really

I knew what to tell me. And the only thing that kept me focused was just knowing that I'm going to get out. They can't keep me here forever. It is what, you know, I knew I had a date that I was going to get out. I just had to do what I had to do. You know, you did the crime. You got to do the time. Even though if it you're in the wrong place, wrong time, whatever. Whatever the the you're there, just just focus on doing what you got to do to get out.

And then once you get out, you know, you keep on pushing forward and doing the right thing. Yeah, you just got to get through. Pray to God. Amen. A lot of praying, right? A lot of praying. I promise. A lot of praying.

Is there anything else you want to talk about before we wrap it up? Uh, man, not not I don't have anything off hand. Well, I'm going to have you back anyway.

Yeah. Yeah, I'll definitely be back. Don't worry about that. Hey, I had a great time. Hey, thanks again, guys, for watching. This is Rodney and uh this is Larry Christ Jr. We're going to put all his stuff in the description. Thanks for watching Breaking Chains, the sober mindset. Have a great day and remember, God loves you and so do I. Peace. Thank you.