The Apollo Show #45 - Savvy Suxx

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of the Apollo show. I'm your host, Apollo, and I'm here with the tall, beautiful, blonde bombshell, Savvy Sucks. How you doing?

That could be a tongue twister. I had to go. I can't believe you made it through. Thank you so much. I was like, don't, don't. That is so funny. I was just thinking, it's kind of nice that you call it the Apollo show, 'cause it kind of reminds me of like, when we're younger and you like, have your own little like TV shows in your room and stuff, right? Like you're hosting your own little show. So it's kind of like your own little.

This is exactly what I'm doing. Like your own little world and you're like, I love it. It is. It's so fun. It's like, hey guys, this is what I'm doing. This is who I'm talking to. I love that. Thank you.

How long have you been doing it for? To be honest, I started the podcast, converted my like spare room in my house into a podcast studio, and then did it very sporadically.

What kind of changes did you make? Did you put cool lighting in there? I didn't put cool lighting in there. I actually used the like, the spotlights I use for filming. But what I did do is soundproof the walls. I set up like, just a table in the middle of the room with boom mics that are attached to the desk that like, come over. So like, they're proper like top-end mics with like an amp and headphones.

Top-end headphones. That's really cool. And yeah, I basically interview. So recent, that was like two years ago. And and fast forward to six months ago, I was like, it, I'm going to really get into this after being very sporadic.

Well, yeah, I literally every single girl that I've worked with for the most part, maybe nine out of ten, um, girls, I've literally just said, "Hey, I also do a podcast. If you want to do it." And they're like, "Absolutely." Like, no one has said no. And I've done like a 60-minute podcast.

You have to have a really good reason to say no. 100%. I've gone from, you know, 10 episodes, 12 episodes in the last two years to just recently, today, I put out episode 28. But I've got literally 25 in the, like.

Oh my God. To edit. In the bank. To edit. Oh my God.

So, I mean, you're a monster. Yeah, I should have like, you do everything like an athlete. You just, it just took so well. It just took so much. The thing is, I work very well when the infrastructure is put in place. Putting the infrastructure in place and getting the motivation to it up.

Try again. Home it. Try again. You're such a nerd. I'm a nerd. Super nerd. That's what I was saying. Like, you have a little nerd sweetheart inside. And then you just look like the most.

I already told you, you got it going on. Thank you. You got it going on. Appreciate that. So it's just funny that there's like, such a nice little like nerd in there.

Well, you know what it is? It's probably because the nerd like never wants to feel like, you know. Oh, I love that little nerd. He's awesome. He's the man. Hey, he's the reason you're successful. Well, he is what makes me creative. Absolutely. And that's the thing with podcasting. I can get a camera, I can get a couple of mics, and I can do it basically anywhere. Like, this isn't a studio. We're in the sunroom of my Airbnb right now.

I've been shocked at the level of like housing in LA in general. Like, I went to a house that was literally, allegedly, a million-dollar house. I walked in there, I was like, man, this like, just doesn't look modern. This don't look like a million dollars.

It does not look like a million dollars. You in talking [ __ ]? No, I didn't even say. I just looked around. Lo did like you. Like this. I think 'cause I'm Greek, just have that like little bit of a.

Well, I mean, for me, 'cause I, I look at the time, I was like, deciding whether to resign my lease at home or not. Like, where I was, or go, go find someone else. And I just, I was like, well, if this is worth, you know, 800 bucks USD a week, maybe my really nice like modern apartment isn't like, so bad for that. For how much they're putting it up to. So anyway, yeah.

That's so true. It's definitely different. Like, like for us, we've looked into like moving to Las Vegas, which in Las Vegas, you can get a house with a pool for like $3,500 a month. Which in LA, that would be like seven to ten minimum for like the worst house you've ever been in.

Yeah, it just, it's just crazy. It's just because the real estate is, is so expensive. It literally doesn't feel real sometimes. For what we do, LA is sensational. Like, there is nowhere in the world you can go that there is as much opportunity that can kind of just pop up just from being here, you know?

I feel like it's not even, I would, maybe like, it's just so convenient. I don't even know that it's sensational. 'Cause every time I, I mean, it's beautiful landscape-wise, but it's just so insane. Also, there's water.

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Yeah, we just smoke. We just smoke Jay earlier right before we started, just to loosen up the screws a little bit. Did I pack it well? Yeah, it worked pretty well. To us, like, I don't know. Smoked pretty well.

You think? Well, 'cause I wonder sometimes, 'cause sometimes I get things rolled and it's just like, so hard to smoke. But that was so easy. Yeah, I think the, the, the secret is not packing it too tight. Dare I say, I did it perfectly. Yes, absolutely. Firsty smashed it.

So how did you get in the industry? So I always say, I knew that I would be in like the sex industry, no matter what. I don't know if you had this in Australia, but in America, Showtime and HBO had like, um, after-hour specials. So it was like adult content. Like, you know how they used to have porn on TV?

Yeah, no, we didn't have that. This was [ __ ] prime time. So it was kind of like, think like Girls Gone Wild. Like, it was all amateur, like shot on scene. Like, so the real sex was like, about underground life. So like, swinger couples, hot wife couples, different kinks and fetishes. And they would film real people talking about it in the streets, and then they'd go to like the sex clubs and stuff with them and film it. And like, it was kind of like MTV style, like documentary. Like, they showed it, they were in it, they followed a couple of characters. And then they had a brothel show, right? And I, I was like, I was so obsessed with the thought of working in a brothel. I was like, that's it. It turned me on so much. I am like, free use. Like, that's my natural fetish, is like free use. Just like someone using you like to get themselves off. So I was like, oh, I want to work in a brothel. So I used to watch those all the time. So I always had. And then I used to, sorry, I'm answering you so long, but.

No, go for it. We got time. And then in college, I used to sign up for. Do you have Craigslist in Australia?

No, but I know what Craigslist is. It's like a goods and services place where you can advertise either like, "Hey, um, mow your lawns," or "I've got a blender to sell," or.

Yes. Or like, so it could be anything. So a lot of people, or "Hot blonde looking for," yes, "for adult massage," whatever. So I used to sign up for the ones that were like, looking for like a naughty secretary or like a house, like a sexy house cleaner. And I'd always apply to them. I never got hired. And that's their loss now. But yeah.

Exactly. Like, I always had that living inside me. And I tried to like, work a normal job. So you never did one of those gigs? And then you never got hired? No.

So I never got hired. And then I just kind of like, I went and started doing wedding planning and that took over. And then when the pandemic hit, you know, we were all locked inside. And Alex and I had just started dating before the, my fiancé, just started dating at the beginning of the pandemic. And we loved filming like from the get-go. Like before we even, we posted on Reddit or anything like that. We used to love just like filming. And I used to hide my face. And it, it's actually really cute. I have all the videos. And it's like, I'm like, trying not to look at the camera. Like, now I look good in it. Yeah, exactly. But we started posting. And then, yeah, Reddit just kind of took off.

I wasn't like, I used to not like come at all. And like, like, get it off me, right? I hate it. Our first ever viral post was my first facial that Alex gave me. And he had like huge loads. And because I never really cared about that stuff, 'cause I'd be like, "Get like, the less the better." Yeah. I'd never really realized like him having such big loads and then showing them off like became my thing. It just be like, every time I did it, it just went crazy. So I was like, I just, yeah. And now I [ __ ] love it. Now I actually do like it. So it's just funny that I was like, "What a turnaround." I was like, "What the [ __ ]? That's my thing." And then I was like, "Okay, [ __ ] yeah, that's my thing." Like, yeah.

So ladies, very nice nut. Was that you have a very nice nut? Thank you very much. I ate pretty healthy and I only smoke weed. So I mean, like, I feel like. And it was perfectly white. Yeah.

What do you mean? Is there like, just colored come out there? No, but it's just nice when it's like, I don't know. That's part of like, the experience is like, sometimes it's a little too watery that you don't really have that like nice.

Oh, true. Yesness. Yes. I'm with you. I like that. Great. Well, you're welcome. That was really sweetest little angel. I'm so happy to be here with you. Yeah. Great.

Well, thank you so much for coming. I'm so stoked. Like, we actually tried to get to get together last time I was here. And just so many times we chatted. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So this is like, a few times in the making. So. And it worked out to be exactly how I thought it was going to go. So.

I know. What a [ __ ] relief it is. I was like, I built you up so much in my head. 'Cause like, just, I love the way that we interact with each other. And I was like, I just can't [ __ ] wait to meet him. And I was so excited. And I would be [ __ ] devastated if you turned out to be a dick. I would be [ __ ] devastated. I would be so jaded. I would be, I'd be so [ __ ] [ __ ]. I'd be like, "Another one." Like, [ __ ] don't meet your idols. They always disappoint you. That would be me. That would be. You know how I came in saying like, "Oh, I don't like anybody." Blah, blah, blah. That'd be my new thing. Be like, "I just can't trust anyone these days."

Exactly. Exactly. No, I'm so glad it worked out. It's been, it's been an A+. So far. It's been a rocking day. Yeah, it literally feels like we've known each other forever. That's the thing with social media is like, you just get to talk, talk to each other over time. And all of a sudden, like, you meet each other in real life and you're like, "Dude, how are you?" Great to great to see you again, even though you've met them for the first time. It is so nice. It is so [ __ ] nice. I love that. That that's like a possibility.

Ever like a chatter? Like an onl? Like an AIM? Did you have AIM? It's an AIM. So it's like a screen name and then you chat to people like your friends. So like, you'd have like a list of your friends.

I probably, I had a, I was like, even earlier, like MSN Messenger and things like that. So I've done, I've done chatting before. Yeah. Which that was very. Move fast technologically. That was very popular. Like, I think people don't understand when I was young. Did you have a MySpace?

No, just missed that one. I didn't really get into socials. You would have been so much fun on MySpace. Yeah, I, I was never really active on socials till I started doing this job, to be honest. I was active, but I was a personal trainer. And to do personal training content is a lot harder than to do like, just looking sexy content.

You could totally do personal training content. Yeah, but didn't want to. Yeah, but you, you would do it well. I would do it well. Especially with all your knowledge now. You're right. You're right. I would, but like, I'm sure it would be boring. But you'd be good at it. So if you ever want to be really [ __ ] good at something, you know where to go. If you need a confidence boost, you should probably film yourself working out.

Thank you. I do sometimes when I'm like, in the zone at home, when I'm locked the [ __ ] in. Yeah, I do little like. But you know what's funny? I do little gym clips 'cause I'm like, you know what? I got to diversify anyway. So I'll set up a tripod in the gym, film four or five of my hardest sets of different exercises, splice them together.

Like you saw just before. You should send me them. I will. I'll show you. But they don't do well. Like, I, I feel like, isn't that so annoying when there's like, when things that you like, where you're like, "This [ __ ] rocks. This feels like me." And then you put it out and people are like, "[ __ ] that." And you're like, "Oh, okay. I'll just keep that. I'll just keep that down deep."

Exactly. Sorry, sorry for that. Oops. Yeah, for real. Like, I, yeah, it's like, but it is what it is. I get it. Like, it's, it, you have to post for though. It still is a niche, though. Like, I don't think a lot of people really. I don't know. I, I don't think there's a lot of people who really like, like [ __ ] those people.

Yeah, totally. Don't let them ruin it for us. No, exactly. I want to see it. I'm going to keep doing it. I like, like that. Well, I've found it really interesting. A lot of my like, really had to nudy yourself so much on Instagram that I find the talking re. That I do. I, yeah, especially. You have a nice accent.

Thank you. You have the accent. You know what I love coming here? 'Cause all the girls say the same thing. They're like, "Your [ __ ] accent's crazy." I'm like, "Yes, it's like a superpower." Where's my hug? Yeah, where's, where's the hug? Oh, so funny. We do this like compilation like on Reels and it was so cute. It was nice. It was nice. And I just have, I always go to different hugs. People love hugs. People can, they're sweet. People can relate. You're just like a big bear.

I am. I am. When we were doing the Reels that he's talking about, we were both like, "Oh, what should we do? What should we do?" And you're like, "We could hug." And you suggested it like three or four times. Like, I'd be like, "All right, well, what should we do next?" You're like, "I know, should we hug?" That's what you did. Correct. But it was in. I should, I should say, it was in different positions of hugging.

Okay. That's what someone who likes hugging would say. Oh, there like four. There was like five different hugs. Okay. We, we accomplished five different hugs in that set. Okay. Don't [ __ ] forget it. Exactly. That's what you were. You were like, "We got to make sure we get that one." And that's one she nailed it. We actually got too much footage of like us us doing dumb [ __ ]. Really was so good. I love it. You, I feel like we're very broy together. Yeah, we are. We're bro as [ __ ]. We both lean in and talk to each other like this. Yeah. I'm a fan. This is great. This is how I'm used to talking to people. It's brilliant.

So you're not, sorry, you're not big on TikTok, but you've got a few accounts. Like, have you been constantly deleted? And what have you found to be like, holding you back on TikTok? Yes. I'm like, I like watching TikToks. I am too fast-moving to to be successful on TikTok, if that makes sense. 'Cause it takes a lot to fast-moving. What you did in when we were laying down, when you were editing? Yeah, you're able to catch, process, refine, and send out. I can do the catching. It's like, oh yeah, like I have all the ideas, all the momentum, all the energy. And then when it comes to putting it together and putting it out, I'm just like, weird.

You're like, "Oh, I've still got that unedited raw clip in my timeline. Damn it. I haven't even done anything with it." I love watching TikToks though. I love watching them. So you never like got banned or anything?

I got in trouble every [ __ ] video. Every account I've ever made on TikTok has been like instantly banned. And I don't even do anything wrong, right? [ __ ] They're just like, "Get her out of here." I really like your 60-day squat challenge you're currently doing. Love it. Is that tripping the guidelines?

Before you answer that, though, like, oh, everyone's always cursing me like this. I'm just, everyone's like, "You're really walking a fine line, aren't you?" I'm like, "Stop saying it out loud." I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to put the bad juju on you. I'm just curious from, uh, someone who likes to collect data on Instagram. Does having gym shorts, but having the camera like almost in your butthole for a section of time, put you on the can't be recommended guidelines list?

I didn't know I was talking to the [ __ ] police. Who are you? A cop? Seriously? Do you work for Instagram police? I work for like, trying, if I get banned, I know that. I know who the [ __ ] you're working with. How dare you? I'm trying, I'm trying to figure out my own [ __ ] honestly. I just want my pages to feel like me. I've never done like any like, like I could do like stupid [ __ ] like trends or I can do things to build my page. I would never buy followers or never buy bots. I've always built everything very organically. So like, sometimes I've just started like, my posts don't do necessarily well, but they feel like me, right? So I'm like, you know what? If it doesn't [ __ ] matter, 'cause Instagram's not bringing in money for me. So I'll just use it as a place to like, be a hot girl, to have like, hot. Like, I, I'm a practicing hot girl. I love it. I'm trying my best. I'm like, "Okay, if I do it, I'll become it, hopefully."

Yeah, you definitely are a hot girl. So yeah. But the, the behaving like one is very far off. Got Neanderthal. Hey, that's why we get along. 98% Neanderthal. Yeah. 72% Neanderthal. Hey. I mean, makes me, makes me go to the gym and work very hard. So there's a part of me. Yeah.

Do you, do you, what did you work at or do anything? I just started thinking about what. You have such delicious colored penis. Thank you. What were you asking me? I'm so sorry. I was just thinking about it. It's all right. It's fine. It's fine. You did ask me something. Dickmatized from earlier. What did you ask me though? What I ask you? I do you work out? Do you work out?

Yes. Yeah. Do what do you do to work out? Mostly just weights. No, I do a lot of time. See, this is where your [ __ ] like workout videos would be so nice. Yeah, you. I want to know about your workout. All right. So when I'm like locked in at home, I will do multiple hours on the stair master a week. So I'll do like an hour stint of the time.

Do you enjoy that or do you just do it for the benefits? I enjoy how I. Yeah, I just do it for the benefits. No one's enjoying the stair master. No, but that's time to be on it. If you don't [ __ ] like it. Well, I'll listen to a podcast or I'll, you know, I'll do something. I'll listen to something like in the audiobook. Like, it's not wasted time to me. And also, I feel it makes me sleep better, feel better, look better, a whole bunch of [ __ ] better. Yeah. So how could you really say? Now I get it. But also, I do a lot of weights. And mostly I do lower body. I do a little bit upper body. But I'm just [ __ ] myself up all the time. Love day. I just feel so much. Like I feel like my brain. I feel like I have some sort of crazy ADHD that is settled by extreme exercise. And that's not even like extreme. Just I have to [ __ ] get into it. And I have to throw some weights around. And I have to do some hard cardio. I have to be like, feeling like there's not enough air in the room for a period of time.

That is so hot. That's disgusting. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. But yeah, it's, but when I don't do those things, I feel like I procrastinate more. I'm, I just feel like I'm a better, I'm a better version of me when I do it. And I feel like I'm definitely a worse version of me when I don't do it.

There's no bad versions. Oh, to me, there's a version that like, just isn't as productive. And isn't as happy. And doesn't see the light side of things. I see the glasses half empty rather than the glass half full when I'm not exercising hard. So like, to me, that doesn't even sound like you. Right? That doesn't even sound like you.

Totally. So I'm like, unmedicated, but I would say for like ADHD and depression and all these things. But what I would say is that my medication is the hard exercise. You're so cute. Oh my God. That is so cute. It's true though. It's true. That is like the sweetest thing. Yeah, I'm really like, that's really sweet. I love that like you have that outlet. And I just love listening to you say that. It, it's so cute. Great. Thanks. I think it was the accent. Yeah, right. Superpower. Absolutely.

So what do you do? What do you, how do you work out? I mean, I wish I had such a se like sexual story about working out. 'Cause like, that's beautiful. I love how like close to feral you are. Like, I love that that's like how your blood runs. Like, I think that you would definitely survive if the world ended. I'd have a good shot at it. Yeah, you would. I'd have a good [ __ ] shot at it. I would say so.

I like, I love Pilates. I used to do a lot of like, very aggressive things. Like, I wrestled on an all-guys team in high school. W. I played rugby from the time I was in like ninth grade till all through college. I love like Jiu-Jitsu and Judo. I love rough sports. But my body was just getting like, torn up. 'Cause I run into things like a dumbass. Yeah. So yeah, I started doing Pilates like two years ago. And I just love. Have you ever done reformer Pilates?

You know, I've never done reformer. I've done Pilates like on the floor. I don't really. I wish you were staying closer to me. Yeah, I would. If I was, we could go do Pilates and then get an Arian smoothies. I want to try one of these Arian smoothies. They have to. Del. They're like the cocktails of smoothies. So they have different textures. Like, there's like a coconut. Like, I actually can't wait to get home purely to be back in a routine. 'Cause like, although I have trained while I've been here, I've tried to eat well, I've also been quite happy not to eat well because I'm like, overseas, right? So I've had. There's so many good options.

Oh, absolutely. But to be honest, there's not many like great options either for like, like what we had today. Yeah, is the healthiest thing I've probably eaten since I've been here. Do you want to give him a plug? Where do we eat? Cava. Cava. Cava. Am I allowed to show it? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, it's delicious. Would that be considered Mediterranean food? Yeah, yeah. Just like literally meat, vegetables, hummus, sauces. Better than it was like Turkish almost. It was delicious. Yeah, it was delicious. And it was beautiful. Everything was so pretty.

Yeah, I found like the produce here is a little bit weird. The meat section, small, limited. Heaps of stuff in the middle that's not great for you. Yeah, but delicious stuff in the middle. Is not great for you. You need to go to Arian. Arian. Yeah. You got to stop over these. That's in downtown. You should never be sad when grocery shopping. Okay. Arian. That's devastating. Where is it? Maybe there's one down here. Maybe I'm going to the wrong place.

Yeah, you are probably. We need to go. I don't know like much about it. It's like where it is. But there's a few locations. I think they're all like in the valley. Okay. So I don't know where we are right now. I'm guessing we're out of the valley. Yeah, we're very much out of the. We're an hour from the valley. So I'm wondering, do I live 18 minutes from where that line is? This is an hour and 18 minutes. True. Yeah, you probably do. Someone will be able to find me just based on that. Okay, she's 1 hour 18 minutes. Man, we'll be long gone by the time this comes out.

I went to AVN and X3 and yeah, this year. And I went to smoke some weed and chill with my buddy Cubby. Cubby XO. I don't think I know who that. Love that name. She's hot. She's like a co. She's a cosplay girl. Huge, huge titties. Oh, it's a girl. Yeah, girl. I like that. What's that name? Why is she called that? Or is that just her [ __ ] name? Her name. Okay. Yeah. Shout out to her. Or Cubby. Cubby Thompson. Cubby Thompson. That's so cute. Yeah, she was just sitting in a hotel that you didn't even need to get like a swipe up to like, you could just take the staircase up to the door of her room. Where the [ __ ] was she staying? That's terri. I'm not going to say. But it was somewhere like close to X3, which is just a hotel in the in downtown. But it's, yeah, it sometimes surprises me 'cause like, she was someone with like, like 100 people. Oh my God. Lined up to see. Like, that were obsessed with her. So I'm like, you know, not that you know that is [ __ ] terrifying. Not that you wish anything like, you know, even want to put that into the air. But it's just, I think like, yeah, you're right. You have to be like, a little bit more wary of your own security. Yeah. I saw this guy there. Some [ __ ] crazy people out there.

Yeah, there are really are. It's scary when you see how crazy people are. 'Cause like, I, I'm never like, I don't call myself crazy anymore. 'Cause I'm like, I've seen crazy. And it's just crazy. Like, you think you're crazy, crazy. But there's like, people that are so much crazier. Like, I would never hurt anyone. I would never do anything mean or naughty. Like, there's some people that are pretty twisted. Like, people that murder people, people that are involved in big fraud. There's some crazy people. People that live double lives.

Yeah, that's so crazy. Those people are the most active people. They're the most active. Can you, that's like constant roleplay. I couldn't imagine it. I could not imagine. You have to try, try and imagine it. No way. It's crazy. I couldn't. Like, I actually couldn't tell. I would just [ __ ] up the lies. Imagine being married to two women. Have you ever seen that documentary where the guy was married to two women? He was like a doctor. I can't remember what his one job was in Spain. But he was from Spain. Had a wife and kids. Was getting married to this American woman. And he was flying back home on the weekends. And like, convinced her that he was a brain surgeon. And then he had to travel for work. And like, had this whole elaborate life. Like, and but was just going back to see his other family. He's always on guard.

Yeah. Sounds horrible. How [ __ ] psychotic. Sounds horrible. Isn't that? But like, that's crazy. It is. There's nothing that I, I mean, I just met you, so I don't really know. But you don't really give me crazy vibes. Like, yeah. I go out of my way not to like. We're on the crazy scale. You and me are very, very low. I go out of my way not to like, you know, I don't know, not to be emotionally. I'm trying to think of a way to explain it. Like, I don't let. I would never be so out of control of my emotions that I would like, do anything that would be considered, I don't know, psychotic. You know? I'm not the guy that's like punching holes in walls as you're having an argument with your girlfriend. Like, I never understood that.

Sweetie. Oh my God. You're the sweetest. You really. Yeah. Just like those kind of things when I see that, I'm like, guys, you're a big Great Dane. Like, just a big baby. Yeah. Just, yeah. It just doesn't interest me. Me. Hey, but I'm like, someone who would rather walk away and shut down than to react, you know? But that's probably. You know what's smart? That's very linen shirt of you. Very linen shirt of me, right? Yeah.

I'm about to, I'm about to do a photo shoot end of next month. Everyone. It's going to be me in like European gar. I'm going to have like linen shirts, sipping wine, making like small like European coffees. Oh my God. Do you have like an inspo board?

Not on me. But yeah, I've, I've got like. Don't lie to me. I don't. But the girl that's running the shoot does. Oh, thank God. So she's like, "Here's what we're going to do." Which I'm creative direction. The best. Yeah, I'm just lit. 'Cause it also like reflects on them. So like, it's nice when you both come in with like, "All right, let's [ __ ] rock this." Yeah. I'm, I'm assuming she's going to literally just be like, "Here are the five looks we're looking for today." That's what she needs to get. Yeah. I'm keen. And you're going to do some hair down and some hair up?

I think so. I don't know. Like, yeah, probably. I got to figure out what I'm going to do with my hair. It looks so good both ways. Yeah, I don't know what it is about your bun. Yeah, we were watching our video back earlier and you were just like, "Your bun is crazy." Like, while I'm absolutely smashing her and she's not even real, she's not even noticing the actual action that's happening. She's just looking at my hair bun. 'Cause I mean, can you imagine being that hot where even your hair bun is so hot? Can you imagine being that hot? I'm pretty pumped about it. That your hair. You keep talking about it. All you like, "Oh my God." And it's just so hot. Like, your back, back was so strong. And then you were moving your hips so, so fast. And then you're just your beautiful head next to me with your bun. It was just. I was. When I keep calling you, I said, "You look like a lesbian." Like, if I just, if you maybe cut off a little bit of the arm muscle. Is this a lesbian or is this a Polish? It's a beautiful hair, right? I've got lesbian like hair. That's a clip for socials. Boom, right there. Oh my God. Clip it. You look so cute. Thank you. I love the bun. Thank you. Thank you. It just keeps out of, uh, camera. I actually like having my hair down 'cause it's cool. Oh my God. But when I'm like eating [ __ ], it like drapes over and hides the action.

I know. It's so annoying. You have to get little hair clips. So annoying. Can you imagine? Hold on. Let me get my hair clips. Yeah, exactly. Like, imagine eating [ __ ] me like this. Okay. Yeah. Right. Right. It's just, I'm just better to put it up from the beginning and just get her done, you know?

That is so. I totally get that. 'Cause whenever I go to suck dick, I love. I have this is not my all my real hair, obviously. But I wear it 'cause it's hot. Like, who doesn't want to blow job from someone with really pretty hair like laying on their leg while they're doing it? Like, soft blonde, like rolling waves. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you're not wrong. Like, longer hair seems to be more feminine, you know? Like, it looks good. It looks good. But yeah, no, I hate having my hair down 'cause and I'm like sweating. It's all like over my face. I'm like, yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, when you're getting like [ __ ] [ __ ], like you want to, you want to have it like tied, tied up.

Way we have totally come through on this episode. Yeah, this is actually sick. You get me. You know, you get me. You get me too. I love hanging out. Yeah, likewise. It's been great. We need to do it again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. So we'll eat something delicious again. Yeah. [ __ ] those. That's going to be part of our. Just so you know, it will involve. This is such a funny part. Yeah, it's hilarious. So we just drink. For those. How the [ __ ] do you open up your lungs to drink? You were like, 'cause I, 'cause I'm not. Ain't no. That's how you just drink. 'Cause I ain't no [ __ ]. I was [ __ ] for real. I send it. [ __ ] [ __ ]. Sending it. Oh my God. That's a lot.

So anyway, you're strong. You're Neanderthal even when you drink water. Yeah, that's right. Just going to get it in. You know, I had a friend, a girlfriend that could drink beer like that. She's from South Africa. She was awesome. We used to go to the bar and she'd be like, she'd go, "Bet guys." She'd be like, "I bet you buy us both a drink. I can chug that beer faster than you." So we would just be drinking all night. She'd just be like, "Oh God." And she's a lesbian. This chick's sick. She's so cool. She's like in the band. And she like would dress in like silk pants and like silk shirt. And she was just this like really cute, little, innocent South African like who could just [ __ ] open her throat up for beer. She was awesome.

Was she also sex worker? Was she also? No, right? I met her in college. Damn. She was awesome. And now she. And then so that was right as she was finding out, I think for her, that she was gay, right? And yeah, she's just awesome. It's really cool to see her like, she's coming to her own in such a cool. Like, when you know, when you see someone like that person's genuinely happy. And when I look at her, I'm like, "That person is genuinely happy." And she rocks. Like, she is one of those people that you meet and you're like, "That's like an unforgettable kind of person." True. She rocked. Just imprints on you. Yeah. But she could definitely chug a [ __ ] beer. All that. All these qualities need to be a good beer drinker. Important. It's important. That's a funny story where she was just hustling dudes for drinks and get and getting extra hammered. Like, she sounds like a [ __ ] legend. Was hustling? That's so funny. Yeah, it's classic. It was very old English of her.

I met her when I was in England. Really? M. Well, that makes sense. The more you talk about like her, the more I'm like, "Oh yeah, makes sense." She can chug beer. She's from England. Yeah, it's like saying a dude from Australia can chug beer. It's kind of like a right of passage. I wish I could more. 'Cause I love the thought of it. Like, I've worked at like old pubs when I lived in England. I used to manage a little like country pub. Well, you can't open the throat up and just. I can't smash it down. I have like a puss throat.

Actually have a question. So, you know how I deep-throated you today? Yes. Are there some girls that only exclusively do that? And if so, is there ever a break or they just keep sliding it all the way down?

I've. I don't know the answer to this. There has only been like, no. So the short answer is no. Normally people aren't there for face [ __ ]. They're normally just the deep throat is part of the arsenal of the [ __ ]. Like, "Let me just throw an extra good trick there." Yeah. "Let me just throw in a double be." It's like a one or two thing. Like a double deep throat and then go back to regular blow job, whatever. So.

That is so funny. Yeah. Yeah. But there's been some who are like, "Just [ __ ] my throat." But it's like, but you know, just my thickness is the probably max capacity for a lot of girls. I think it's really good thickness. It's like, not so thick where it's overwhelming. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, it fit perfectly. It stretched in all the right places. It was just, it was very nice. Honestly. Again, you got it all going for you. You really do. [ __ ] I'm happy. And you deserve it. Thank you. You deserve to have it going on. Thank you. Appreciate you. That's so sweet. Like Taylor Swift, but a guy. Let's not get too crazy.

Do you like T? I mean, to be honest, the music, there's a couple of bangers. But there's. I'm not sat here being like, "I know a bunch of Taylor songs and I think they're awesome." Because I feel the same. I like her music though. Yeah. I mean, I'm more an anomaly. Yeah. I'm an anomaly. To be honest, I find it very interesting a social kind of experiment where it's like, what is she doing that's so different? Everyone else to have an extra thousand, sometimes tens of thousands of people outside this the sold-out stadium trying to listen to like her sing from outside. That is so sweet. That's ridiculous. It's sad, but it's also like, it just shows like how much she connects with the general public. I don't even know if it's that. I think it's like the simpleness of people. Like, there's almost like there's like random people that they're drawn to. And it's, it's just like a cultural shift towards it. It's not actually true or like valid. It's just something. There's so much like natural. I don't know. Like, sometimes like people get obsessed with someone. And it's just like, they're obsessed with her 'cause everyone's obsessed with her. There's not like the Beyonce kind of thing. You know how like before Taylor Swift, it was kind of like Beyonce, like everyone called her Queen Bee. And you know, when she put out that, the middle of the night randomly. Like, it's just this like pretend interest in someone. And I don't think that like, like the Kardashians. It's just like, it's this interest of the masses. It's not necessarily a valid interesting thing.

Do you think it's more just like, like, like they're not the best? Like, I'm sure there's more better trained musicians. And I'm sure there's better singers. So what do you think she's doing that's different to get to achieve that?

I just think it's like perception of her. I don't know. I think it's the perception built up around her. I also think there's a lot of good business practices. You know, like she has a very good PR team. Like, I just saw that they had like a concert canceled. And there was like charm bracelets in everyone's hotel that like booked a ticket to get to the show when it was canceled. You know, I don't think she's ever said anything mean or hurt anyone's feelings. So it's like, you know, it's just kind of like an American sweetheart. It's kind of like what people want girls to be, you know, polite, sweet, not not really stir any controversy, like sing about appropriate things. Like, if anything's edgy, like just make it edgy enough, but don't go over the limit like where it's distasteful. I feel like she stayed in those boundaries. So it's kept a lot of like the religious nuts in this country very happy. So it's like a very Disney. She's very Disney. Like, she is very. She's also very like young adult. Yeah. Nostalgia kind of. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I probably. I was on the outside of the age bracket of her. Like, she started herself. No, I can't. [ __ ] are. No, I always think that's your weird thing. No, my thing is he's drinking water 'cause it's true. Drink water. If it's true. That makes me laugh while I'm drinking. But it's actually to me, I'm like, if someone's like weirdly obsessed with Taylor Swift, if I meet a girl and I'm like, if I'm, if I'm in the dating pool and like the girl's like, "Yeah, I'm kind of, I'm going to the Swift concert." And then like, you start to see her like, as it gets closer and she's turning into a full Taylor nerd. I'm like, "Dude, this is too much woman."

There are a few. It sounds like you're talking about it in an exact instance. May I have a sip of that, please? Yes. So not, it's not. There's not an exact instance. But there is a few people that you know that I thought was like, really attractive until I saw how into Taylor Swift they were. Then I was like, "Ah, it kind of cuts it down 20% for me." It's [ __ ] strange. Yeah, when you're like a proper grown adult.

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Beard and I had a full beard for like the first 25 years or more, until like recently. Two, two years like this. You be dangerous. Do you think the beard, the full beard's gotten you more attention, or just this mustache? Got any more tempted? Cuz this is [ __ ] risky, my friend. Why? It's a good risk, though. H s like risky. It's just like such like a, like you took a risk and it worked out in your favor. Yes. So I'll be honest, like that could, that doesn't look like that on everybody. On you, it, it's like, "Why is wild man with a mustache?" Yeah. It's like more wild. It's like, "Oh, that guy [ __ ]." Yeah, yeah, exactly. "That guy with that [ __ ] mustache, he [ __ ]. He [ __ ]." Yeah, exactly. And then you go to my Twitter and you're like, "Damn, he does [ __ ]." You are beautiful. Thank you. What a [ __ ] vibe it's been today.

So you've been doing a lot of like mainstream, and particularly lately, you've been getting some cool roles with some big companies. Like, how's that been going? And yeah, anything to talk about? So I was originally started with an agent when I first started, cuz I was kind of like clueless. And then now I'm not with an agent, so I self-book. But being with an agent kind of taught me what I didn't want, cuz I didn't like going into porn. I was kind of, I just wanted to try it. Like, with OnlyFans, we do well on OnlyFans. Like, I don't need to do porn. It was more so like, I've always wanted to do porn, so it was Alex just letting me do porn cuz I wanted to. So I've tried everything. So like my agent would book me for some like [ __ ] guys that like, you know, like they have a company or, you know, where it's just their [ __ ]. Like, it's basically they're, you're, they're paying you to do their OnlyFans content and stuff like that. Yeah, for their websites with their subscribers. I don't know about that. Like, where you're like, "Yeah, okay, send me the [ __ ] link." It doesn't exist, right? So that was definitely not what I wanted to do. So.

And then there's like, just other roles. Like, there's a lot of really fun porn. I don't really like fun porn for me personally. Like, I like like the Vixen, Black Toshi. Like, I like that like deep blush. I like that thoughtful, feminine porn. I like things like, I like attractive people. I like good storylines, good dialogue, like beautiful settings, like thoughtful. And some of those scenes are just really well-shot, and it's just like a hookup like masterpieces. Yeah, totally. It's and I think that that's so beautiful, like to me. And I'm also, I'm really into there's like a lot of like sex movies. Like Wicked, have you ever heard of Wicked? No. They do like fun movies and they're like parodies, parody movies. So like I did one was called Sunny Gold Melons. And it was basically, I can't remember. It was like, do you remember there was a porn star, John Holmes? Yeah, huge dick. This guy was swinging a forearm. Like, I've seen videos of it and I'm like, it's probably like bigger than they still sell his bigger than dreads. Probably. Probably. They still sell his, uh, someone will tell me it's but let me know. Doc Johnson still sells his dildo. Really? Wow. [ __ ] weird. I like, take it off the market in my opinion. Like, that's so crazy. But maybe not, because people that are attracted to murderers should have access to toys too. He's a murderer? Yeah. I, I don't know the full story. I just know got a dick. What happened? He killed. He like was like with a drug. He got really addicted to drugs and then started like [ __ ] people over for his drugs and got involved with these gangsters and then tried to rob them. And then for him trying to rob the gangster that he was involved with, they made him like go commit a murder to like prove his loyalty or something. Like, you should listen. It's very interesting. There's a lot of podcasts about it. Sounds very interesting. There's a lot of interesting like information about it. And like, because we're in the sex work industry, it's really interesting. Like, it's an interesting story that you're like, "Wow, that's what it was like back then. That's crazy." Yeah, cuz they were all coked up. Well, that's the thing. Can you imagine studio porn? I've never done cocaine, but I can imagine what it's like based on movies. Like, can you imagine doing cocaine and doing studio porn scenes with like weird like dialogue? Well, you know what's weird to me? Like, that's when ites to experience. Yeah, but you are still quite L. Like, for me, when I've, whenever I have, hypothetically, if I were to think about what life would be like if I was doing that somewhat regularly, I would think that the biggest problem with that would be trying to come because there is a thing called Coke dick, which is where you can just go and go your poor dicks get all of it. Any like fun substances, your dick's like, "I'm." Yeah, totally. So I mean, like, these guys must have already had some pretty good control, or they were just finding other ways to. I think they were finding other ways. I think you'll really enjoy it because it's like all about that lifestyle. I think it was like the 80s. He was dude, I love that a porn. I do. But I look at it. I look at all those guys. I'm like, honestly, I do it so much differently to all those people back then. It was a wild world west back then. Yeah, right. I haven't really seen much of it. But, but there's something hot about that. I love like real amateur. Like, I don't e. People don't even have to be good at [ __ ]. Like, I just like real. Oh, back in the day, there was like [ __ ] 10 videos people had access to. So they just shared with their friends on VHS. If you know, if you're not old enough to know what VHS is, then you'd have to be hungry for it. Oh, dude, dude, what I got to do to get that tape? The amount of tapes that like I just got like handed at school or like it just like kind of circulated. The circulated the lads. Yeah, [ __ ] oath. Wow. Crazy. You're such a bro. That was so funny. Tru o. Yeah, dudes are disgusting. Young dudes full of testosterone. Also majorly disgusting. Yeah, you guys are crazy. Yeah, we are, man. There's this great meme that says, um, "Boys do go crazy." It says, "My my dick's taking me to places I wouldn't even go with a gun." And that is the truest statement I have ever heard. Because I remember a specific story where I was at the nightclub in Vegas, just finished three days in Coachella. It's like 4:30 a.m. and there was this beautiful girl. And we were just like, I, it was about to club's about to close. I was like, "We should go and have sex right now." She was like, "Absolutely." Anyway, and we got in the cab and just the, the vehicle just kept going, just kept going. And what do you [ __ ] mean, abducted you? No, no, no, no, no. It was just like suburb by suburb. We went out of the strip and then it's started to get like more ghetto, more ghetto. And I like literally like ended up in some like, wait, were you at her house? Yeah, went to like her house. Oh my God. And I was like, "Maybe not." And I was like, walking through this house. It was just like, like, "This is about to be the best blow drive I've ever got." Oh, exactly. You look at the, yeah, you look at the like the setting and you're like, "Trash house, bed, upbringing, about to be a good night." You said it. She [ __ ] said it. Everyone. But if I must tell the story in its entirety, there was this, there's this very feisty Hispanic girl with her who did not like me for whatever reason. I was probably mouthing off. I proba double liked you, that's why she had to hate you. She's like, "Well, I guess I'm not going to get him, so now I have to get another way." Whatever it is, she was literally sat in the couch like next to us, just like staring at us. No. And I was just like, "Look, I came all the way out here. I'm scared to go out there, so I'm just going to stay here until you're ready to go to sleep." And we just kind of had a Mexican standoff until shut up until like quarter to six in the morning where she was like, "[ __ ] you." Then yeah, literally just like staring each other down. "I'll [ __ ] stay up all night." [ __ ]. Oh my God. And anyway, I out, I out-endured her because of my dick. And then I raed this chicken. I was like, "That's the best 20 minutes of my life." Anyway. Oh my God. Then get out of there. But, and then I got a cab back. But I was like, "[ __ ] this place is scary." But then the sun had come up, by the way. Thank God. Well, there's a certain safety when the sun's up. Yeah, it feels like, um, less dangerous for sure.

I slept in a train station in New York City once when I was like in my early, in my early 20s. I used to take Adderall and I was a [ __ ] nutcase. I, cuz then I would just, so I naturally am like a doer. So like, I would take Adderall. I don't need to be [ __ ] taking Adderall. I'm already. This was recreationally, not prescribed? Oh, yeah. No, this was for fun. All right, gotcha. This was for a good time. Every day during that period. And I would just like drink margaritas and like work. I'd have like four jobs at a time. I was just a menace. And I was such like, oh [ __ ]. I went to New York City to see one of my favorite bands. I end up sleeping with one of them. And then like the beautiful wrap to the night, I slept on the train station floor next to a homeless person. [ __ ] vibes. What? And I was like, "This is a good [ __ ] time, man." But as soon as the sun came up, I was like, "I got to get home." Yeah, exactly. Like, "What was my life?" Oh my. I was snuggling up next to that guy, the homeless guy, all night. And then as soon as the light came, I was like, "You." "What?" "You just laid down next to a homeless dude?" Yes. "W." "I was tired." And it's like at a, he wasn't seeming like a nasty person. So that's very trting. You have like, in Grand Central, you can sleep in this one. I mean, I'm not telling anyone to do this, and I'm not saying it's probably not even legal. And I didn't actually do any of this. Yeah, but yeah, I slept. There was like a part that people could sleep in that they were like locked out of the train station, but you can like sleep in the entryway. Right? So I was like, "Well, well, obviously this homeless dude seems cool." Anyway, he gave me a piece of cardboard. He was cool. He was super nice. What a good guy. Yeah, that's why I didn't mind sleeping. I was like, "Whatever." You know what? I find I'm going to shower as soon as I get home, right? But in the time, I was all snuggled up. Thank you. Good for you. I'm glad it was a good experience for you. Hopefully, I don't get canceled for that. No, not at all. I mean, that's, if anything, that's a very uplifting, nice story. He was awesome. Yeah. [ __ ] yeah.

So what's your split at the moment between like pro collabs and coll, like pro scenes and collabs? I don't know. I like, honestly, like being at home, it's so hard to like feel creative because we have such a small apartment. So coming out to LA, we have like this big house with a pool. And it's, I thought I was going to be most excited to come out and do sh sus, but I've actually been really excited to like make my own content. Like, I'm slowing down in different ways and I'm enjoying like my space and I'm like enjoying the process of making things again because like when I'm at home, I feel like I have such a limited space that I kind of just have to rush through things that I don't take the time to enjoy like edging Alex while I'm like doing things like while I'm waiting on a video to download, like, you know, watching a video or reading something that turns me on or like looking at something, like making little Pinterest boards because I'm sick. But yeah, just like slowing things down. I have worked for like a couple good companies that I'm like feeling really inspired by. So for me, I just feel really like, to me, it's like kind of crazy that I'm working like the best company. Are you able to say who you're working with, or is that not allowed to be said until it's released? I don't know how it works. I don't know. Let's. Well, allegedly. Let me just get that for you. Thank you. Allegedly, my favorite company is Vixen. I love what they do. I think that everything that they put out is so, it's like the perfect porn to me. It's the perfect porn. Half, half porn. Totally. Which I think is like legendary. Like imagine 40 years watching those episodes that they're making. Like, they do it so, like, I'm so obsessed with everything that they do that the fact that I even get hired for like some of their brands, I'm just like, "What a [ __ ] honor." So good. What a [ __ ] honor. And it like gives you confidence. Like I feel so, I'm like, "Wow, I'm so proud that like my favorite company has hired me and believes in me enough to be in their videos." Like, and it just, I don't know, like, to me, it's really fun because I'm like finding like, "Okay, I don't have to work with company like that don't align with who I am sexually." Like, I'm not as like, I'm not as silly of a sex person. Like, like the dialogue stuff makes me really anxious and it takes me out of my body and my mind. I like to be very connected when I'm sleeping with someone. So like the scenes that allow that are more like the studios and the scenes that I go after, rather than like, I don't want to have like this like 45-minute dialogue about stepmoms and stepdads and like, that's not that's just not me. And I have, I know tons of people that are so [ __ ] funny as hell that like kill those roles. Like Millie, best at those roles because she's [ __ ] hysterical. Like, I would watch her porn scenes for entertainment as well as because she's hot, because they're [ __ ] hysterical. Like, she plays those perfect, like she's the perfect person for those. I look like a dumbass when I do those roles. So it's just like, I'm like, "Now learning like I'm refining like what I'll say yes to and what I won't say yes to." Yeah. Y.

Who would you want to shoot with if you were going to shoot pro? I want like my first scene at least, I wanted to be with someone who I really vibe with, you know what I mean? Like, I would want really good chemistry. And there's a few girls, I'm sure that fall into that category. You being one of them. Like, I would definitely want to be with someone who. That's probably the hottest [ __ ] list of girls. That's probably the hottest list of girls that you have in your head. Yeah. I, I just know it. Yeah. It's just people that are like, I think because I'd want to feel more comfortable because it's like, I'm already nervous enough about it being my first time. But I think it would be a really interesting experiment just to try it one day. I look forward to that day for you. Thank you. I could see. I want to see you with like a beautiful company. Same, same. It can be fun. Oh my God, they would eat you up. Imagine. Well, yeah, I mean, you're like built for it. You're like carved of marble and your hair is made of gold. Well, it's definitely the hair is such a good addition because there's no one who has long healthy hair as a dude. Oh, you had to throw the healthy part in. Healthy hair. You're like, long, not balding, very healthy. Okay. Donald Trump. True though. But yeah, I don't know. Like, I have a very unique look. But I think if I was just a gym bro with like a normal short, short side, like short back and sides haircut, I would like not look as unique, you know? Yeah, but you'd still be hot as [ __ ]. I'm trying to imagine you. But yeah, I totally agree. No, granted, I'd still look physically the same. Yeah, yeah. But it's your aura. The hair lets me know you [ __ ]. You're very flashy. Very flashy. I love that. Very like flirty. Not not in a distasteful way. In a very sexy, like, very natural.

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And then he definitely did all the work and needed a [ __ ] break. I will give it to him. I jumped off, laid down, and just dragged me off for like 10, 12 minutes. And [ __ ] at a certain point, do you ever start to think about things like when you're doing them mechanically? Start to think about how they're working, and then you get confused and you're like, "What the [ __ ]?" I kept doing that. I was like, "No, no, no, stay in pattern. Stay in pattern." When was jerking you off pretty good? Whatever, whatever you were doing. But do you know when you're like, just about there, then you switch up something very little? I didn't want it to happen. I was like, "I really don't want like the change in pattern." So I was trying to stay in step. But then I was like, "I don't remember what I was counting." Fck. I was having a meltdown. I was like, "That's." Well, you did so good. Like, I literally, my ears were ringing afterwards. Yeah, jacked [ __ ] my. I made sure to flex the whole [ __ ] thing. Yeah, exactly. "Whose dick is this? Whose dick?" Never it. But you do this. "Whose dick is this?" That is so funny. Oh [ __ ]. "It's yours." "I'm coming." Oh my God. Oh [ __ ]. That is so funny. Yeah. It's [ __ ] good. Good [ __ ]. Yeah. But yeah, [ __ ] hot. [ __ ] hot. [ __ ]. It really was. I can't wait to edit that. Yeah, absolutely. You, I love you. You're so awesome. Thank you. Likewise. I'm glad that. So much fun. Yeah, I'm glad it has been. I got to get back on my side so they can split me out. Yeah, it's okay. It's all right. Am I allowed to tell the secret? No. Every now and again, every now and again, you can. That's whatever. Like, they can know the, they can have the fourth wall revealed. S out again. They're actually together. Oh my God. I saw it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you said recently on your Twitter that you were going to have, um, said that that that you were going to have, you needed to have like a split between your collabs and like your personal like videos, and you've made more of a point to have that as a divide. M. Do you have two OnlyFans now? One per, one for personal and one for that? And what made you make the change? So I have two OnlyFans. The first one is my personal OnlyFans, so Savvy Sucks. The second one is, so it's the newest edition, but this is like where we originally started from, is Sex by Design. So that's Alex's and my couple page. So we have everything on the wall on that page. So that's like, I, when I started doing Savvy Sucks, it would really started as me and Alex doing all, every, every blow job I gave him for like four years is documented there. Every time we had sex is documented there. But then as I started doing pro stuff, people would come into my Savvy Sucks page and not really want that part. They just kind of wanted like this like hot blonde skank. Like they didn't want this. They didn't want someone that was in love with their partner giving [ __ ] to a guy with an average dick. They wanted to see me with a giant dick or like, you know, a a professional porn star male. Like, so we wanted, we still wanted a space for that, but it did need to be separate because they're very different audiences. Which is very bizarre. There's a lot of crossover, but there's definitely like, it's very different. Yes, definitely. But we wanted both of them to be able to exist because like, makes sense. Yeah. And it's really fun. Like, it's just like all of our little like behind the scenes and bloopers. Like, cuz Alex and I like to get to know people. Like, that's like for us, it is very much like old like MySpace vibes. Like you like create your little community, have your little chats, like you have a fun time. You like send, like I do like birthday gifts for some of like my oldest subscribers. Like I'll send them like little snack boxes and stuff like that. So it's like, there's there's like a level of humanness to our page that I don't really have. Savvy Sucks. That's beautiful. Yeah, it rocks. It, it, but it definitely has taken a long time to like carve it out because it's hard to know what people want, you know? Like, cuz I think a lot of like people that were coming in for Savvy Sucks were like turned off by that, you know? So, and I think it's a very like gentle balance of what you post, you know? Cuz if they see so much of something that they don't like, they're going to be like, "I don't want to look back tomorrow." Yeah. So I just want like it to be like pretty friendly. Well, when you think about it, like marketing, the more I think about marketing, the more I'm kind of pushed towards like not being a complete generalist. Like, you want to niche down. And that's essentially what you've done with your amateur page with your partner. Basically, like your people are there because they're like, "Amateur." They might enjoy an average-sized dick because that like is more relatable to them personally. It's so nice. It's so nice because a lot of guys do say that they're like, "It's just nice to see someone." Like, I don't know why guys equate average-sized dicks to ugly women. Like, cuz they're so surp. Everyone's just like, "There's no way." They're like, "He must be rich." I'm like, "No, actually, I'm the rich one. I love him because he's [ __ ] awesome. Like, I love him because I think he's hot." Like, it's just so crazy like that people assume that just because you have an average dick means you'll have like an average ass [ __ ]. Like, that's just not, that's not the math. Well, I actually know, I know, I know a lot of girls who can take a big dick and can take a dick in, and they [ __ ] [ __ ] love it. I couldn't take big dick every day. I'm going to be real honest. I'm a wuss. Well, you, I didn't mean to be offensive. It's, it's fun. Oh, yeah, you did. Gr. Yeah, exactly. Well, no, the, there are some girls I know in the industry who are like, even with average size dicks, whatever is going on with their vagina, whether it's too tight, or there was a girl I had on who has a condition which like is contracting muscles of like the inner vagina. I'm not sure how. And like, sometimes she can't even get her like finger in there sometimes. That's so scary, right? But there's like certain, there's a lot of girls, like not a lot, like I would say like, Is she okay? Yeah, no, she's fine. Like, okay. It doesn't hurt her. I mean, sometimes it hurts her. She can't take like big dicks. Like when there's like BBC dicks like in town, that it's she really struggles. But my point is, is that like, not, I think those girls actually prefer an average size dick. And they're super hot girls. So like, it's not like if you've got an average size dick, that's like, "Oh no." I never cared about dick. You, I never cared about dick before porn, ever. I never was like, like, really, whatever you had was fine with me. Like, I've slept with guys with very, very small penises. Like, and I was like crazy about them. Like, I'm talking like maybe three inches, and I was still like, "He rocks." Like, I don't, I never really. Hold on, I have to take a sip. Have a sip. I have dry mouth. I'm sorry. We kind of have this great, great, um, clippable line with a water bottle in front of your face by Crystal Geyser. How good is it? Thank you. It's so good. You're such an animal. Those edibles. Yeah, yeah, I really am. When I'm drinking water, it's like, I must get as much in as humanly possible. Why do I have a mustache? No, why? I thought you were looking at it. No, I was like, "How stoned are you?" I'm real stoned. Oh my God. Yeah, you should be. I think I gave you like four of them. I was like, "Hey, you want to?" You're like, "Yeah, sure." I'm not. You want two more? Yeah, yeah, sure. Those edibles feel good. They feel real good. They should make edibles and then bags of just the candies without the weed. So then after like when you want to take more edibles, just because the candy is good, you can be like, "I can eat these. I don't have to get that high." Just because they're that delicious. Yes. Oh, wow. Because like, it's like convincing you're like, "[ __ ] I, I guess I'll eat them all." We've got the donuts still here and coffee.

So what does the future look like for you? Have you got any goals? Yeah, do you have goals? I want to hear yours first. I haven't heard you talk in a minute. My goal is to build this podcast up. I would love to have a platform where I can just speak my mind and talk to interesting people. And I think it's a really good beacon for having people in industry and and out of industry just have like open conversations about things that are happening and issues they're having and just like their journey in general. Because most people have a good story, you know what I mean? I love that. You're just so sweet. You really, I really hope good things happen for you because you are so sweet and you're a great person to be in that position. I think try my best. You'll be a great facilitator of things. I really do believe that. Well, I also figured like, no one, there are podcasts that are specifically like plug talk, which are like a studio thing. I'm not sure if they go to another room and [ __ ] or if they [ __ ] in the studio. I'm not really sure. That's a great idea for them. I'm not sure. Wait, you're kind of doing something like that too? Well, I think that's what they, they do. But they, for me, it's more just, I'm not, don't know any other just normal male creator who does a collab and then does a 90-minute podcast. Each collab. That's honestly, it's very intimate because you're like spending time to know them. And no phones, we're not looking at our phones, we're like making eye contact, we're talking to each other. You trapped me. But not even like, it's not even about. It's more. It is absolutely exactly that though. It's about getting the audience, your audience to learn a deeper version of you that's not just your holes and how well you suck dick. Yeah, it's even though it's those things are fantastic. Is it crazy that that's what we need? Like, I totally am someone that needs like a little backstory and cuz it makes it make. Then you're like, "Oh yeah, you dog-loving bitch, you sweetheart who loves her brother." Right? But like, that's the thing. Like, it's, or I don't think it's about like them. Like, I think it's, it's about them having a better connection to you, really. So. And also, isn't it so fun? It's like hosting our own show. Like, back to the beginning when we're talking about like the Apollo show. Yeah, like it's like, so it's like we get to create our own little world. Exactly. Right. It's like we let, we let people in our little bedroom. It's kind of like, what's that the Jim Carrey movie? Oh, um, The Truman Show. Yes. That's what it feels like. Yeah, it does. It's crazy. It's so fun. I love it. And and that's the thing, you can do what whatever you want to do. Like, I think I, I started this originally because I was like, "I want safe for work content." Genuine sword. I would use genuine. I try my, I try my best. Super genuine. You get what you get because you can't talk for hours at a time per week and not have some dumb [ __ ] come out. You're like, "Not poisoned at all." I'm definitely, no, I'm definitely had some [ __ ] poisoning, but I'm working hard to water myself down 100% and become like a better person all the time. And that's the best you can do. So I think you're wonderful. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Version rocks. I'm just going to keep on sharpening this [ __ ] whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. Sharpening this tool, man. Like, I like to imagine a time when I am not as active. Maybe I have like, my goals for the future are to have like a, a clear idea of what my love life, slash intimacy life outside of work will look like. Right now, I'm very work-driven. But I would love to have a scenario where if I was to, the idea you in a relationship is so, whoever your girlfriend ends up being is going to be hot. I hope so. I can't wait for you. I will be subscribing the month you get a girlfriend. Excellent. Oh, he's got a girlfriend. I got some work to do. Got to spit on your fingers, ready to go. Yeah, legs back and loaded, ready to go. [ __ ]. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. For me, it's, I would love to have a some sort of intimacy relationship, like, and know what that looks like and have something successful in that realm, whilst doing some, whilst doing some OnlyFans. But I would like to, I think I would slow down on this. It would be sick to have the podcast making money because I'll tell you like, although I do love having sex with the women that I interview, I really enjoy C. I have to [ __ ] them too, damn it. Yeah. But I just wanted to hug and talk. But, but seriously, I do enjoy the interview itself. So like, it would be sick. I love this interview. Right? It's awes. I, I love it too. And the thing is, imagine if it was not just girls that I work with. Imagine like it got to a, like to me, the future looks like it getting to a place on YouTube, it's getting to a place on Spotify where there's actual people. Just saying no OS, no logos allowed. They're going to clip that. I'm, I'll make you, I'll make you a little door sign. Yeah, perfect for whenever should. Yeah, great. Thank you. Put it on this, this door. But like, imagine that's making its own like good amount of money on its own through YouTube. That'd be the [ __ ]. That'd be the bomb. And then people actually want to come on that are good. Maybe I have my own studio that's air-conditioned, that's like soundproof, that I go to. Lots of snacks. Yeah, obviously. CW. I think you could totally do that. I really do think you have all the workings. That show we talked about, you potentially going on. I definitely think you should go on because that sometimes like having the right engine behind you, like for me, Alex is that engine. I think that you have a lot of power on your own, but to have an engine that's maybe a little bit stronger with better connections. We can talk about it because it's not like I was off at anything. So I was just going to say, so I started the application for Love Island. And I was like, "Me, you, I really." You have, have you ever seen yourself? You're literally look like a god. That you could be a meme if, if the right media attention got to you. I really like, like, "Are you [ __ ] kidding me?" Who is that? Jesus. Seriously. I feel like I am. And you're nice, and you're funny, you're silly, you're a likable guy. You'd be a likable character. But you also probably have a little bit, you have a little stripper to you. That's great for television. That's the thing. I've got a little bit of rugby lad, Timmy. That's just, you know, sometimes he could be fighting, he could be stripping, just dumb. You know, I really think that that would be like, I feel like if I, they have those ideas and those that outreach that they have, you're a star. You deserve that outreach. Yeah, I really think that. I think doing one of those shows, especially if it's popular, really how [ __ ] fun too. That's a once-in-a-lifetime thing. That, that is. That is. But you just have to promise to take good care of yourself afterwards. All those people always go crazy. Now, the thing is, I'm lucky that my craziness, if you go on, you better tell me so then I can contact you after so we can make sure that you get on track. Soft blankets told how awesome you are. Okay, good. Excellent. Yeah, I'm, I'm lucky that I've ironed out all my bad stress coping mechanisms besides like binge eating junk food. Makes for great TV, right? Just clips of you eating. All everyone else was flirting and having a chat, and you're just like, "Totally." I, you know, I should change my social media a little bit and do mukbang. Like, just do a night where I set a whole table full of like Chinese food and I'm like, "Here we go, everyone. Full mic on. Here we go." Delicious. But like, people, people watch that [ __ ]. Yeah, they do. And I mean, but you do have to be careful because I didn't. A girl just passed away because she like ripped her stomach open doing it. Damn. So you just got to be careful. Yeah, definitely. But like, in theory, I love that idea too. I can eat like mukbang like gummy candy. I just want to be like, an excuse to be like, "Just given to my inner wants." And my inner wants is just like, "Just binge eating, just delicious food." You should do a hot dog eating contest next year. When you come back, you should be trained for Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. Because that Nathan. What is this? Nathan's Hot Dogs. Yeah. What is that? They're just like a, a snappy hot dog in America. And every year they host a hot dog eating competition. The guy that was doing it just got like offered a brand deal. He's making lots of good money. What if you're the new hot dog eating guy? Dude, imagine if that was. That is so me though. That is so me. I could do that. I don't know if I could eat as many as these guys. I remember like watching a ripped Asian. You're seeing guys eat that many hot dogs next to you. You're going to get competitive. You're like, "How many [ __ ] hot dogs did he just eat?" Exact. Well, that's the thing. They ate time. They dip them in the water and then they just go, dge, dge, two, b, boom, boom. So you've watched them? Have I watched them? I just get a kick out. Like, I watched a, I watched a like documentary on the Asian guy that was number one for years. Deep like late '90s, early 2000s. Don't know his name, but I remember this. He did like 75 hot dogs in the three-minute time frame. Crazy [ __ ]. And he is so not in this world. And he was ripped. And his, uh, documentary had this is where I was like, "[ __ ], I love this guy." Because he was ripped. He would show him going to the gym. And he would literally do like three plates on the squat for like sets of 10. Like crazy strong guy, muscular, looked great. But then would go to Sushi Train and just put like 40, 50 plates up. Then he would go to a restaurant in the evening that tried to break you. And if you couldn't finish the food, you had to pay for it. And he would always finish it. So that night, he had a spicy soup that was literally a [ __ ] bucket of soup and noodles. It was literally like, I don't even know, like 10 liters. And he finished it. Anyway, that's my story about food eating, about like food competitions and Sh. What does he do in private? I don't know. Is he addicted to shedding or something? What's? I don't. I'll tell you as someone who has eaten a lot in my time, like with diets and trying to bulk up, like I can tell you the more you eat, the more you [ __ ]. He's addicted to like one part of it. The food's not the thing. It's the, it's the. Maybe he's like sexually into [ __ ]. Maybe he's just like, "I'm going to keep eating." Yeah, because it doesn't sound like it's about the food. I'm going to do these eating. I mean, he's getting paid thousands of dollars to win these these food competitions. His belly must hurt so bad. Oh, yeah. He's probably got IBS. Imagine, imagine how how hard that guy blows ass. That's crazy. His house probably stinks so bad. He better have good air conditioning. Well, you need, if you don't have good ventilation, if you don't have good ventilation, you're not gonna. I could never be in a relationship with a guy that's constantly farting like that. I would, it would make me go crazy. I'd have to kill him. Damn. Well, I guess we're not compatible. Imagine. I guess we're not compatible. You haven't smelled today? No, I'm being polite. Can you imagine if you were my girlfriend? I'd be, I'd be, I would have F fed 40 times by now. Yeah, but I would be like this, like in your face like that. Maybe that's why you're having trouble finding a girlfriend. You me? I know what you mean. Oh, you can't find a. Yeah, it's so weird. I can't figure it out. Oh my God. Yeah. So that's so funny. Oh [ __ ]. That's good. I like your toe socks. You got these socks on that have like, they're like gloves. They're Pilates socks. I get. Again, we've, I've had this conversation like four times today with you. I've just been telling you. Yeah, you just tell me about your calloused feet. Yeah, I have really rough feet. So I have started putting lotion on them and then socks. And these are the only socks that I have. I like my toes to be out. It helps temper them. Nice. I like it. I don't want to be too warm in the feet. Did you cut those yourself? Wear one? No, I'm good. I'm might have way too big a foot. My foot is literally a size 14. That is a really. Screenshot that [ __ ]. That a. I got a huge foot. Big set of foot up again. Right. Put that at the camera right now. Now that is a fossil. That's what you see in fossils. Yeah, totally. This is like crazy. That's yeah. I got some like good genetics. And I, I have to take a picture of that. Do it. Do it. Wow. Yeah, that's hysterical. Right. That's like the biggest foot I've ever seen. Pretty big foot. Not the biggest out there. Is it okay that I'm saying these things? Totally. Yeah. Okay. I'm not trying to roast. You're not triggering me. Like, I'm trying to roast you. This is what my high school bullies used to say to me. No, nothing about that. God, I've never seen a foot that big my whole life. It's good. You could probably cast that in stone and then sell it to people and be like, "Bigfoot was here." The museum would be like, "Oh [ __ ], we got the first Bigfoot." S what? Those are some big ass feet. Yeah. I wonder like if you got your DNA tested, like how far away from like Neanderthal you are. Because I don't think you're very far. No, I, I got something going on. You're just over the. Got something in there. Got something in there. But I think it's actually sounds like it sounds dumb, but my my grandparents is are from the Peloponnese, which is in the south of Greece. And it's his V, his village, well, my granddad's village when he was a goat farmer, was 60 kilometers from the like where Sparta was. You know, Sparta, like the 300? I'm kidding. So like, who knows, maybe I got like a little, you know, Spartan genetics in my like lineage through the time. Wouldn't be surprised. Donate to this podcast if you think you should do it. Yeah, donate to this podcast. And if you get enough money for me to get a 23 and Me, I'll do it. Oh my God. Straight up. Straight up. I might even fund that myself. Because go to my and just say, "This is for the 23 and Me." And I'll put it in a kitty. And then when it gets to a certain amount. I don't know how much it. We should do a bet on how far we all think you are from the Neanderthal. I'll tell you what. I, someone wins, they get a free subscription. It's a good idea. I'll be like, "What I think I am." I'll put it up. And then and then we'll compare it to what it actually is. Alive. Like a bet. Yeah, this actually be a good idea. I'm saying. Yeah, good. I'll be like, "Okay, if this comes out to be X amount in the anal, you've got to suck my dick." Okay, now it's dick sucking. Now it's dick sucking. I mean, no, but yeah, that's the, um, I'll be there. Oh, yeah. Right. Fine. Can I please have a sip of water? Of course. We've smoked so much weed that I'm like sandpaper throat. Yeah, that was good. That's some good weed right there. It didn't take. Tastes like zoo. The second time. No, such a such an interesting smell of a zoo. Such an interesting way to describe it. Your titty is just out all the time. I should have said, wear a shirt that doesn't just create nudity immediately. I'm sorry. It's fine. Alex picked this out. He picks my outfits out because honestly, I wish Alex was the girl because he's much more of a [ __ ] than I am. Nice. Like, I'm just kind of like a little swamp person living inside of fair hot potty. Yeah. So I just, he kind of cleans me up. Cleans me up. I don't remember where I was going with that. I'm a swamp person. I don't remember. Yeah, that's right. That's right. We, I think both of our edibles are coming down. We're just like, yeah, I'm feeling all right. I'm actually feeling pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good. Just just getting it on. Just getting chill.