A New Heart Intelligence and Evolutionary Waves with David Clements

Hi everyone. You're gonna have a wonderful, wonderful time for the next hour or so. We have David Clemens here again. It's absolute joy of course to be with you David. I think this is about our seventh conversation I think something like that.

>> Yes, somewhere around.

And uh, you know, they they've just been so helpful and so uplifting for people. So I know this one's going to be similar. And for the, I think most of you know David and his background. For those of you who don't, he was in um, very high level academia, two advanced degrees from Oxford and Cambridge, PhD. And then you began remote viewing, I think, and and that was working very successfully. And then a galactic team started to contact you and your life changed out of all recognition. So you're now a living energy systems expert. You're developing some beautiful regenerative technology to help humanity, but you also have a fabulous um, uh, part of the website which offers live streams and meditations run by your galactic team, as I understand it. Those meditations and a lot of those are free and and they are really truly life-changing for people. So, highly recommend that you join those. I'll put the link for those below and uh, yeah, you can become you can become part of uh uh of David's teachings. So, welcome David. Absolute joy to have you here.

>> Thank you, Pam. It's I've been looking forward to this for a while because I know that we talked about this just after or quite soon after we did the last interview and and uh, yeah, I'm so glad to be back. I I love chatting with you and and I I I could see how much help and and uh, and insight and hope it gives people who are listening in the comments. So, thank you everyone who's listening and I I hope you get just as much out of this conversation as you you have out of the others. So, it's it's good to be here.

>> We're going to be thoroughly cosmic today. So, um.

>> Definitely.

>> You know, it's interesting, Deb, because I remember very distinctly that it was on I think you were talking about December the 4th last year being a very significant wave. And that was, you didn't know that, but that was a very important full moon in Gemini that day. And you obviously weren't aware of that, but that that was a very powerful time. And then you talked about this powerful evolutionary wave that was coming in, peaking in late June and July.

>> Which interested me enormously because the astrology is so rare, pretty much unique in this month, which doesn't mean to say it's all going to happen this month, but it's a kind of the beginning of another upstep in evolutionary terms. So what you were seeing in this wave of energy is what I was seeing astrologically. And I also listened to a brilliant uh geohysicist called Stefan Burns and he was talking about exactly this peak time, late June, July.

>> And he was talking about how um, essentially we were having a more direct magnetic connection with the sun because we were in a kind of coronal high-speed stream between the earth and the sun and also that the earth was becoming much more electrified. And so I I don't know whether that language is what you were seeing in evolutionary terms or whether you can say more because I know you said this was completely new energy coming in for humanity in the earth.

>> Yes. Yes. Yeah. The the [clears throat] kind of the energetics that are being created and developed actually because there's such a plethora of different types of energy. It's not just magnetic. It's many many different levels and you know um, it that's a massive conversation of itself but I'll try to try to nutshell it enough um, but essentially um, so just a quick recap of what the teams have told me and and you know past to tell on in these interviews and so forth is that um, these membrane systems that are being created and have been you know, set up and and are still developing around the solar system, around planetary bodies and also So inside the planet uh, these membranes contain, how could I say, they contain levels of energetics which are a little bit like a birthing condition for new energetics to come in because we have been used to as third dimensional reality observers, whatever you want to call it, uh, we've been used to a type of energetic cons system that is highly constrained, highly compressed and behaves in a very solid like fashion. So it's very limited in what it can do and how it can behave and you know, so when I think about conventional physics um, you know, when when people talk about the laws of physics, these are very simplistic observations about the solidity and the limited behavior of how energy works in a highly compressed environment which we have been in. But now with everything changing fundamentally um, all nature of fields um um are starting to change, matter itself is changing and its behavior is starting to change and this is actually observed in mainstream physics. I remember back in the late '90s when I was doing my undergraduate degree in in mathematical physics, they were starting to see, they always observed certain decay rates um, you know, of particles like the muon decay rate was always constant and then it began to change and they didn't understand why, you know, so that's been something that's been observed for a while and so you know, because there's a lot of talk about muons and all sorts of other particles in in different in different guises but fundamentally the way I see it and what teams have given me is that um, you know, we're so used to looking at it through the material lens and and how does matter behave? Can we construct mathematical equations to map and sort of predict and and so on and so forth, but what's really deeper underneath that? What's the the literal living energetic magic you might want to say that that sort of precedes all of that? And that's kind of what's coming to the surface, you know, and on uh, these other worlds with the the beings that I connect with, their worlds are so enveloped with higher level, high what you might call multi-dimensional living energetics. Well, that could be a little bit of a whimsical phrase, but it's really an expression to say that the nature of energy and its behavior is now of a very overt living conscious sort of fluid entity if you like or being presence, whatever you want to call it. You know, there's not really a good word to describe it. Um, and so that really is what's starting to come to the forefront from us. We are moving out of this highly solid rule-based um, you know, mechanistic world of living into a fluid dynamic living thriving world, you know, because we've all been taught, you know, it's even in physics, you can't get something for nothing. You can't create energy out of nothing, yada yada yada yada. Um, so there's all these ideas of what you, but those are all programmed conditions that get us as the observer to create that in the world and reinforce that compactification, reinforce that solidification. So we're actually, you know, people think, oh, we just wait and watch the world unfold. Well, there is an unfolding, but what's really unfolding is us. You know, our consciousness is changing, the way we perceive is changing, and therefore the outer world is changing as well. And so, you know, we talked about before we started recording the waves that were coming in and there have been these very profound waves, you know, coming through, as you said, through June. They peaked in sort of middle of June, beginning of July, and now they're starting to settle off. And they have been dredging up immense amounts of stuff from deep within people. All the stuff that lingers there that people have no idea that's even there. It's happened to me as well. I've had some real humdingers to deal with over these past couple of months, you know, nobody nobody gets a free pass.

>> Yeah. So um and one of the things that um as a little message if you don't mind sorry to carry this um uh this sort of paragraph in it a little bit longer but it's um I think it's a very good message for people to know that um you know a lot of stuff that you have no familiarity with, no context of or no known relationship with will just shoot to the surface and suddenly it will throw you off and you'll feel like you're wobbling all over the place and you don't know what's going on. And a lot of this stuff has been so hidden, so stuffed down that you had no idea that even existed inside your conscious field system. And now these waves are coming to dredge that out, to release it from you so that you can expand. It's like taking out the anchors that keep you in this highly compressed, highly compact, solidified, limited world of rule-based energetics. Um, but that's that's all part of the huge change that we're going through. And yes, you know, um Stefan is is is right that the sun itself, the relationship with the sun is absolutely changing because as the energies raise and the multi-dimensional nature of our interconnectivity starts to open up, new gateways start to open and expand for us. And suddenly the interconnectivity not just with the sun but with the core of the earth and you know, with the sun acting as as a point in a huge interconnective stellar system and galactic system. It's massive and suddenly all that is starting to come online and now just like streaming energy, you know, a linkage of river, you know, you know, and now suddenly this little dam is opening up and suddenly you're getting all that beautiful, highly uh, you know, intelligent living uh, liquid light that's coming through and you're bathing in it now, you're having such greater connectivity with with like I said, stellar systems beyond our sun, including our sun, the the galactic core and so on. It's really, really huge. It's massive.

>> Because this is an evolutionary leap not only for Earth but for the whole galaxy. I've heard you say.

>> Yes. Exactly. Yes. Something um, I can feel my teams here. They're quite excited to share something. Um, they're saying, uh, what's happening now is um, they're saying, think bigger than your galaxy. Uh, they're saying this is a multi-galactic uh, universal uh, unfolding and it's bringing together every, what they're showing me is this whole interconnected web of light streams that are enhancing [snorts] and going all the way out. It's, they're saying, think of a, pardon me, think of a tree with all of its root systems and all of the branches and leaves and suddenly the core of the tree suddenly lights up and streams of light now go through all the fibers of the tree, through the root system. They're working their way to the very tips of the roots everywhere. They're saying that's what it's like on a universal scale. That's what's happening.

>> And so they're saying this is immense. They're saying there are civilizations out there uh performing immense work in different areas, [clears throat] different galaxies. This is huge. This and and you know, even though the planetary ascension that we're going through is a massive, massive thing because a full planetary ascension is like this has never taken place on this planet before. It's a first.

>> As as far as I'm I'm I'm aware from my teams, they're saying yes, that's correct. Um, but this whole thing as you know, when you look at it on a on a universal scale, what's happening, this whole upliftment is colossal and you know, what the role that Earth is playing in this is massive and I believe it's partly to do with and this reminds me of some of you know, the ancient masters that came here. They came here to seed such light into the darkest places um, because to do so, it's like imagine going down, down to the bottom of the ocean. You set off this immense light and that light would work its way through every water molecule, spread out from the deepest place and work its way back up to the surface. And so in a way, that's kind of what they did. They started the seeding work and it it obviously took place long before they came as well. So it's a step-by-step system. But when they came in, it it's the most um, recalled and renowned point at which very advanced beings came in to see supersede light into break the system down from within. Because remember, one way to look at this is part of the bind that humanity's got itself into is being involved in environmental energetic system that is so confined and ratcheted down where it becomes so limited, you can't do anything other than just barely operate. And that's what it become. And so light, intelligent light had to be seeded into the very fundamentals of the entire system, the material makeup, matter itself to change it, recode it, reform it so that it releases and lets go and suddenly the living fluidity that of the real nature of energy comes back and the thriving can can come back again. So it's it's quite a, there's there's a number of ways you can see it, but that's a nice way of looking at it. And I feel that's what's happened. And so the system per se, darkness, whatever you want to call it, never had a chance because you know, uh, living intelligence is the fundamental towards everything, you know, and what we call darkness is just a perception. And it was uh, said to me that it's when you look at something and it appears to have a diminished level of love intelligence within it from your perceptive vision, it appears dim or dark. That is what darkness appears as. But as soon as it becomes full of love intelligence, it luminesces. It glows. Suddenly now the holographic forms that you are now looking at are now filled with living light intelligence. And now they're organized and harmonized by that intelligence because it's in it. It's actively working inside it and now it's doing its magic and that's how and so it becomes luminescent. So that becomes light. Um, so really it is that, you know, uh, darkness per se is not a real thing. It's a perception of the lack of love intelligence. And that comes back to the game of free will because to have the game of free will, you need this sort of perceptive contrast of lack and then to be full of so that you have this spectrum of all all things in between. So, yeah, it's there's a lot of different threads you've got there, but I don't want to hog it too much because I'm sure you've got absolutely, you know, it's all absolutely fascinating. So clearly we are in an incredibly accelerated period of evolution and and you know, galaxies and beyond. And you've actually said that we are hyper accelerating now. Humanity is hyper accelerating. And I know there's no such thing as linear time, so this is quite a tricky question to ask. And our evolution will go on to infinity forever and ever and ever. Are we kind of in a sort of um, a bubble period where it is particularly intense and then it will start to level off a little bit or will it keep this intensity for you know, forever and ever and keep upping up and upping or is this a particularly concentrated period?

>> Yeah, I can feel the teams laughing. They're saying that's really up to you. Um, in the sense that they're saying that you can be as enriched or as still as you wish to be. Um, they're saying but part of this unfolding, these massive waves are coming through as a planned purposefulness.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, and they're saying it's a Padian being I believe here at the moment and I also believe the Syrians are here as well. Um, they're saying they would like to come forward to share some some perspective. Um, so okay. My highest self. Uh, please go ahead and the teams love light teams that are here. So they're saying the earth is going undergoing tremendous change which they're saying they're smiling and saying you already know that of course. Um, but they'd like to discuss some of the changes on a deeper level. Um, and so what is happening, they're saying, I I just touched on it a little bit with what I was saying about the luminescence of matter and the filling of love intelligence. Um, they they're saying they would like to take it a step further because they're saying your world has essentially in a manner of speaking and they're saying they're hesitant to say these words, but imprisoned in a way, not quite in the way that we would understand it, but they're saying think of a bubble that appeared to be so separated and so disconnected from everything outside. They're saying that's really what they mean. Uh, so they don't, they're saying they don't want people to misunderstand, you know, what it is they're saying, but it has created such a sense of separation with the the the the.

>> Okay, sorry. Could you just slow that one down a little bit? I I missed that word.

>> Um, uh, they're saying they're using a a type of expression I'm not used to, so I'm finding it hard to to find the word to describe it. But essentially, it's like they're saying the game of humanity. They're saying, "Let's call it that." Uh, the environment of of humanity, whatever you want to call it. They're saying um, what's happened is in that game um, they're saying it's a little bit like uh, they're showing this analogy. Imagine a group of children on a playground and they get taken into the school and the doors get locked and then they just, that's where they stay and they they get used to just being in there all the time and they don't, they forget that there's a world outside of them. And they're saying what's happened to humanity is that we have forgotten that there is an entire plethora of multi-dimensional levels of existence all around us, all outside of us in perception terms. Um, that we have forgotten and have had a very little instance of that connectivity or the sensitivity or the feeling of that. [clears throat] And they're saying it's created this condition of ever greater compacting, compacting and separation that had to be turned around. They're saying because it was going into a very, very uh, you know, unpleasant place. They're saying and they're saying this the initiation of this turnaround actually took place a long time ago. This isn't recent. Um, but a lot of the things that we are noticing are quite recent as to many of the uplevelings. So, they're saying the uh, the turnaround actually was um, they're talking thousands of years ago um, where things were turned around. They're they're saying your your history is a lot more ancient than your books are are saying. Of course, we we of course know that. Um, um, but yes, sorry, please. I didn't mean to interrupt you like that. Um, please continue. Um, they're saying yes, there have been many civilizational civilizations on this planet. Many of them very advanced. Many had left this world and and developed technologies that they could could go elsewhere with. Remnants of which, they're saying many have found in different places, including Antarctica. They're saying um, so this, you know, they're saying they encourage people to look into this more because you'll you'll find some very interesting things. Um, but they're saying more to the point, what's happening is the core of humanity and the core of their being, the the heart intelligence that is where the veils are really lifting and that is where people are starting to feel all sorts of weird goings on, you know, imbalances, discomforts, all sorts of strange things going on. They're saying um, and they're saying this is expected in their eyes, this is part of the process. They're saying they're saying you see humanity. And they're saying that with such a lot of love and reverence. Uh, they're saying that um, you're going through a massive transformation which is not a transformation of just being more intellectual. And they're saying of course, you know this. They're saying you're undergoing a transformation where you are literally returning to the core of your, you have this profound chance to go so deep into the core of who you are to be a living powerful emanation of source intelligent light within human form. They're saying this is the grand experiment of the human form right now. And they're saying it it is immensely exciting for them. They're saying they're seeing things switch on in humanity on a subatomic, molecular, DNA level that are just profound. And they're saying this involves what they will call light science that's beyond what we know right now, but we will become accustomed to it and understand later. But they're saying but suffice to say now, uh, they're saying that so many things are coming into play that uh, are going to be immensely riching enriching to the human condition beyond what you can imagine right now. It's it's it's really, really profound. And they're saying literally each of your Earth days brings something so profound and new in itself. It said you you're [laughter] he's saying it's it's a male and it's he's saying yeah um, humanity is of such interest to a delightful interest to just many, many immense races because they can see what's happening as well. Um, and he's saying he's I was just about to leave now as uh, there's a female who's coming forward now. I think it's um, okay, so this is an Octuran female. Okay. Okay. So, uh, my high self and, uh, the Octurian female, please go ahead with what you like to say. Um, so, uh, that's interesting. So, she's handing out holding out her hand and she's showing me something, uh, energetically on her hand. So, she's saying this is a representation of, uh, you know, or a, uh, an an image of the heart center. And she's saying something is changing. She just wants me to be still for a second so I can see. Okay. Please go ahead and and and show me. Okay. Wow. Let me try and describe this to you. Okay. Is it Are you Have you finished? Would you like me to describe that now? Yeah, she's nodding. Okay. What a really delightful being. Very, very sweet and gentle, but incredibly, incredibly advanced. So, she held out her hand and just showed me um, a sort of energetic image of the heart's energetic system, what it is right now. And she was saying what it's transforming into. And it just went like this and transformed into this immense um, I'm not sure if I can find the words to describe it. She's saying that the the opportunity for humanity to be such a direct emanator of source intelligence. Do I have that correct? Is that what you mean? She's sort of she's nodding, but there's a little caveat to it. Um, okay. So, oh, she Okay. She's saying, um, imagine imagine even Okay, I see what she's saying now. So she's saying the heart center is not only the core of our living intelligence. It's the core of our perceptivity. And she's saying the the galactic connectivity that we're getting, this is where it's developing from. And she's saying that when you reach a certain level, you will literally feel the living consciousness of stellar systems, galactic systems right here. You'll have perceptivity of them right here. They're saying the the Let me see if I can get this right. The the It's like, okay, so let me say this and you can correct me if I if I've got the translation wrong. [laughter] It's like the living light library of the human system, the human form with that level of source connectivity with your higher self embedded in the human form. So much is they're saying is is is an experiment that is really just incredibly profound because they're saying the experiential um, again, the it's very difficult because they're showing me very multi-dimensional concepts and I'm I'm finding it a bit difficult to find a word to translate that into to explain it. Um, okay, so if you can help me [laughter] my higher self find the right words for this. So, okay, my higher self saying picture an ocean and you are in the ocean. Um, and now all of a sudden um, you know, you become aware that you are the body of the ocean as well. And that ocean is filled with living library energetics of consciousness and understanding and experience that spans not just this world but entire galaxies. They're saying that is where you need to be looking. Um, that's how big it is. They're saying it's this is still developing. Um, but this is what is slowly coming online for each of us as we wish it to be. They're saying the availability because of the genetic makeup of of the human form from many master races, because of the Earth herself, her lineage, her connectivity, her whole framework in this whole thing, the whole thing together in symbiosis is creating what they're saying is like a a light recipe that is like no other. It really is. It's it's really profound. And so they're saying they would really love people to play and ponder with the idea of just having such expansivity of awareness inside your being um, unlike you have never imagined before. They're saying that's that's where you have the opportunity to go. And that's these waves coming through, they're saying are clearing the bedrock. They're clearing the dust, the debris, the mud that is getting in the way of that coming into better fruition and saying it's all part of this pulsing that comes through. It purges, dredges, pushes out, settles you down. You get a settling time so that that that space can now be filled with more advanced light energetics. Then you get another wave through that pushes more dredge out the way. And they're saying it's it's clearing the human form so that we have such a multi-de and and they're sort of smiling a bit. They say we we know how that gets that that terminology gets used a lot in different ways but they want to make it very clear. They're saying imagine around you a nested series of fields all around you and ever expanding back towards source. They're saying those are the expressions of you in ever expanding form back to source. Uh, they're saying this whole process is allowing you and helping you to connect more deeply, deeply, deeply with each of that almost sort of fractalized field system so that you have such a profound and deep access to that that you are literally just emanating that in human form. And they're saying the the the ability to be a bridge to such high level living energetics in a sort of third, fourth, and fifth dimensional setting. They're saying it's never been done like this before. It's it it's this is such a new thing. And they're saying the conditions that humanity are creating by doing this work is opening up even more doors as we go along that were not expected to be open. that even more expansivity and new projects can be uh enacted because of it. They're saying it's they're saying it's such fun with you humans. It's never it's never uh, they're saying in your human phrase, it's never a dull day. [laughter]

>> So.

>> Having more fun up there than sometimes we are having right. [laughter]

>> But I I know they've said you know, we are way ahead of expectation and accelerating. So it's fantastic. So it sounds like you know, we are going to become more and more luminous as beings as well, you know, shedding that density, which is wonderful. And I've also David, I mean, that's all beautiful what you've shared, just you know, how lucky are we to be here at this time, you know, it's remarkable. But and you've also said that um, the whole fabric of spacetime is changing.

>> And of course, that's inner as well as outer. But can you expand on that a little? I mean, what what exactly did you mean by that? And um, is the, you know, are the orbits of the planets changing in their relationship to each other or their relationship to the stars? And again, being aware this is all inner um, and just being a mirror reflection in outer, but I'd love to understand that better obviously as an astrologer.

>> Sure thing. Well, let's start here. So um, you know, mainstream physics will tell you that, you know, there's spacetime and matter or particles sit in that and they study the behavior of that and that basically overarch physics as we as we know it. Um, what the teams were saying to me uh, was that the the very nature and energetic configuration, if you like, of space and time itself and what we perceive to be time. And they're saying there's a lot of un new understanding that's going to come, not just about our perception of linear time, but multi-dimensional time flows as well. Um, flows that go back on themselves, flows that do all sorts of things. You know, they're saying time is more more dynamic than we understand it to be. Um, but to bring space into the fold, they're saying that they've spoken before about these um, how to describe them? Um, they're like sort of energetic uh, nodes that connect each other in this huge beautiful uh, connected system that acts like a bit of a fluid. It can flex, it can move, it can bend. Um, but each [clears throat] of those nodes um, has a lot, there's still a lot I'm learning as well, but there's a lot of um, energetic function to each of those nodes and one of which is experiential memory. And so, you know, I I I'm think I think I've spoken before about when people can go to an area which is say war torn or, you know, where there's been some very, you know, damaging energetics there, but can still feel like something is going on, like something is replaying again and again in the spatial area. And uh, what they they were saying to me was that these nodes actually store experiential imprints like memory, you know, and so one of the things that's being changed in the spatial grid system is the memory of old traumatic events that just keep getting stuck and replaying and replaying and replaying and and you know, don't break free and and heal. That's happening. But also the whole system is changing because they're saying one of the constraints on um, on matter itself is the very nature of how the spatial system has been made to be and we changed that with our conscious perception. They're saying that's part of our relationship with our environment. And they're saying part of the condition of how we have really confined ourselves down into this sort of third-dimensional kind of highly constricted, highly solidified is that's had an impact on the spatial system itself. And so that is being undone as well. So they're saying it's not just an area with which to fill things with. It's an active part of the very living holographic system that makes up what we perceive as our outer reality. And it's layered, they're saying, as well. And one of the other things that's happening is they're saying, if you remember the bubble they talked about, as if humanity had been contained within a disconnected bubble or or a perceptive prison, if you like, in a seemingly separate to everything else. We're in this little bubble. We have no idea what's going on around us. We're not even aware there's anything else outside this bubble, kind of thing. And they're saying the the clearing and and transformation of the spatial grid systems is very much part and parcel of the dissolving of that perception of separation, that bubble of we're in here, nothing else exists. And as that dissolves away, we realize, oh my goodness, there's everything is interconnected and we were never never truly separate. Um, and so, yeah, there's Do you have anything you'd like to add to that, my higher self or my Octarian family?

>> Um, yes, they they would like to add. They're saying there is a synergy. They're saying there, imagine this. They're saying around galaxies, and they've spoken about this before, there are certain membranes that exist. So that energy operates slightly different within each galaxy. So it has its own environmental playground system, if you like, you know, different, you know, it's like, you know, one school does this, another school does that, you know, it's kind of a little bit like that um, but they were describing each galaxy is within its own membrane, each solar system has its own membrane and within the solar system there are other membranes as well and within a membrane, the physics or the energy behavior can be vastly different inside this one compared to inside another one. It's like when you blow bubbles and you see bubbles, it's like just fields of membranes and within each uh, each one of those, the nature of how energy moves and behaves inside that membrane is very different or can be very different from another. Just to give it a visual feel to it. It's not quite like that when you blow bubbles, you know, it's just they're bubbles. Um, but in the membrane context, that's how it works. And this is what's changing. Now, the beautiful thing about this is they were saying that you can only get access to membranes or change them if you're at the at an eighth dimensional level or higher. So, lower beings can't mess around with these. Um, it's not something that they can interfere with. They don't have access to them. It's one of the beautiful ways that the whole universal system is set up. You only get access to the good stuff if you can show you can attain the high levels and you can you can behave centeredly and properly. Um, if you misbehave, you only get access to very limited amounts and you know, and what have you. Um, and they're saying that is effectively what is going on that the spatial system within the solar system and within the planet itself and within the other planetary bodies as well uh is being slowly morphed and changed to bring it more in alignment so that it can synergize with and uh essentially connect with the flows and the streams that are coming through the sun. The the uh through its core, through the galactic core and the network of stellar systems that the sun itself is connected with as well. And so, yeah, that's uh what they're saying is happening. They're saying it's an immense. They're saying the analogy of the root system is a good one because it gives people more of a visual of all these different roots threading into different stars, different stellar systems, and these light flows feed through to them and emanate through the star, expanding into the solar system, radiating the the life forms in that solar system with that particular quality of light information or light intelligence. So, it's kind of hope that gives a better flavor of what's going on. And did that answer your question? And at some point astrology is going to change out of all recognition. So no pressure there then. Um, [laughter]

>> Right. Yeah.

>> Be very going forward much, you know, much more recognizing the consciousness of each of the planets as well [clears throat] and interacting with them as as elements of consciousness from within us and also uh mirrored out as well. It it's just very quickly. Sorry to interrupt there, but the the Octarian lady is here again, or the Octarian female. She's saying yes. And it's we we're going to start to re re-evaluate our understanding of what planetary systems are and what they do as a function, what they are as a design,

>> And the many things that we're not yet aware of. She's saying because there is so much going on that humanity, she's smiling, humanity thinks it has a handle on, but really doesn't, you know, it's it's really exciting. She's saying there's so much excitement in store for us and the discoveries that that are going to be made um, yeah, it's it's very cool.

>> Wow, that's beautiful. But yeah, [laughter] anyway, look forward to all that, you know, that sounds incredible. And I've also heard you say David that you you visited the done recently and I'd love to ask you about that, your experience of doing that.

>> Yeah, it's in actually there's a couple of times in the actual meditations themselves that um, >> and it's very interesting because when we do these meditations, the teams of and the collective higher selves with everybody doing it seem very keen for people to directly experience things, not just get information because information is is nice, but it's not the same as really having an experience of something. And so a couple of times, perhaps even more than that, they've asked us to go through the boundary of what we perceive to be the sun into the interior to sit and feel what's in the interior, what it really feels like. And it's, I mean, I I studied stellar structure when I was it in academia, so the the conventional view of stellar structure and the interior of stars um, and yeah, I can tell you the the perception that I was given many times by going inside is nothing like what stellar structure would would have everyone believe is inside. And inside the interior, and there is a core inside there, just like very similar to the earth, a living intelligent core. And in the interior, it felt more like, do you know those plasma balls that you get, you could put your fingers on and all the plasma streams meet your fingers? It was more like that than it is um, you know, as we think of it as just a big ball of just, you know, fusion reactions going on, nuclear reactions. Wasn't like that at all. In fact, it was cool in the interior. It wasn't hot as we perceive it to be.

>> And um, you know, the Octuran female is back again. She's um, it's interesting, she's kind of doing this for a second. She's saying um, um, she's saying there's so much that has been hidden from you. Uh, so much that you have been misguided with in terms of your understanding of what things are. Um, she's saying initially it might seem like all your knowledge is going to turn on its head, you [laughter] know. Um, because of the nature of things of how it's going to be revealed, but she's saying it's going treated as such a fun, almost like a child beginning to learn from the beginning how things really are, kind of thing. But anyway, um, so did you did you have anything to say about the interior of the sun there? Um, no, she's saying she just wanted to include that. Okay.

>> Um, so yeah, again, back to my experiences at the very core, there was one meditation in particular where you go through the core and go through the stream, the multi-dimensional stream gateway to the galactic core, and that was quite an incredible experience doing that. Um, I don't remember off the top of my head which number that was. I believe that was one of the free meditations we do. So anybody listening can go and do that.

>> Pretty sure it was. Yeah. Um, but yes, the the and this is one of the big misnomers I I I love to clear up is as as you know um, a former mainstream physicist, now a living energetic physicist, as I I think of myself in in what I do, I would say that what science has really taught us is solidification, separation, and isolation. And pick things into their component bits, put them back, you know, and try and map them and therefore you understand what you're talking about. But no, no, not at all. Um, living systems are interconnected living systems that are so beyond everything. You know, having been a scientist, I've walked in the same halls as some very famous people. I've had conversations with them about all sorts of things. And you know, for my my take on things, science is going to undergo a big renaissance. It really is. It has to. There's no other way. Um, you know, a a lot of things, you know, religious perspectives, all perspectives are going to undergo a massive renaissance because it's been predicated on the idea of separation, control, isolation, a whole number of different factors, none of which are actually real in the bedrock of reality as it really is, is the way I see it. And we're going to be introduced to living energetic systems in a far more advanced way. Um, and technologies that.

>> They're not really, they're not technologies as we know them. They're living energy field systems.

>> Yeah.

>> That operate in the most advanced ways. And it's going to be appear to be so different. I mean, people have seen and taken pictures of light ships, massive light formations in the sky that are incredible, you know, and these are indicative of these advanced races that come in with these what you can only describe in a very loose way as light intelligent ships, you know, and it it really is extraordinary. And again, just coming back to your question about the sun again, it it had the similar quality inside there. It was a living intelligent uh, complex of field systems um, that was very different, very different from what we would think of as being the what we are taught to be as the sun is, you know, so I've had to do a lot of unlearning in [laughter]

>> What I yeah, chuck all the tech away and start again, absolutely. So, you know, everything is becoming more more fluid, more malleable, more morphing, and more conscious. So we're we're going to recognize consciousness in everything in in the vehicles. They're going to be operated by frequency. You know, it's going to be just an extraordinary multi-dimensional world that we're moving into. And it's starting now, isn't it? Because people are starting to have those experiences.

>> Yes, there's I mean um, you know, the observation of um uh, orbs um, you know, there's many words to describe them. Plasma balls, you know, things phenomena going on in the sky. It's really increasing. A lot of people, a lot more people that didn't notice it before and now starting to see it.

>> And yes, the Oh my, oh boy. You know, the there's just so and and I've seen some other people who have worked in, you know, in different areas. Some of them quite close to um, should we say um, deep deep projects, so to speak, you know. And um, I it's incredible because I remember um, I don't want to say too much information, but I'll just gloss it over a little bit, but I asked one person who had contact with some people who are working in these programs and he and he and he said to him, "So what's uh, what's the nature of what you've got behind there? How how far are you advanced behind the scenes?" And this contact of his replied, "Well, you know Star Trek." He said, "Yeah, yeah." I said, "Well, what we have would make that look very silly."

>> [laughter]

>> Yeah. [snorts] So, and that was direct from somebody who was a solid guy. Um, I mean, I can it's that, you know, I I don't want to mention his name because he hasn't given me permission to, so I won't say it. He has passed away now. So, but still, I he hasn't, I didn't get direct permission, so I I won't say, but I will I think it's okay to say that to give people a flavor without revealing too much information. So um, but it just gives you an idea of, you know, h things that are going on behind the scenes. So uh, you know, it's uh, yeah, the future is going to be very, very interesting. That's for sure.

>> And and it's arriving, it's arriving right now. And these waves are going to keep increasing, aren't they David? All the way through this year. Keep on coming. [snorts]

>> Yes. The next big one, they're saying there's they're saying there is some sort of what they consider microwaves. Micro, that's a [laughter] micro waves. Micros. Yes, let's clear that one up. Or smaller waves, you know, that's probably that's a better way. They're laughing. Um, and they're saying, but there's one there's another big one, crescendo, coming in August around August the 19th. They're saying, okay, is going to be I don't know if that date is significant.

>> It's eclipse month. It's eclipse month. So, yeah. So the 12th is a total solar eclipse and obviously the 19th is a week later, but yeah, big astrology through August. That's that's really interesting. So another big evolutionary wave to carry us through.

>> Wow.

>> Yes. They're saying they would like to say this this one coming through is even more refined, as you know, they've spoken of before. They go, they're expecting them to become more refined as they go forward. And they're saying they want to qualify what they mean by refined. And what that means is it's becoming more the light uh, okay, they're just trying to use my vocabulary to try and uh, put the the info together, but they're saying that um, the the quality of the the living light information that is coming through, the seeding of these little packets of light that are going to unfold when they go into you and literally release uh, light, they'll call it light functionality or light intent that's going to uplift, expand, and evolve as it as it goes into you. They're saying the refinement of them is so fine because the the finer it goes, the more it's bridging you to the more fine uh, sort of high-dimensional living energetics of things. And they're saying um, it it gets more deeply absorbed in those who are ready to absorb in that particular wave set. But they're saying, don't worry.

No one misses out because as another group is then ready to move on and then be receptive to this, they get the opportunity to do the same as well. So they're saying it is happening in different ways for different groups of humanity. But as they're saying when you look at it as a whole, everybody is moving, you know, it's like it's like a bus. You know, you've got people sitting all along the seats of the bus, but they're all going to pass through this, you know, this this place of high energy, so to speak. And they're saying it's all to do with where you are in your receptivity to energy, where you are in your path, your puzzle piece solving. There's a whole mix of different things, but ultimately it comes down to resonance. You know, where you are resonated, your frequency, what you can resonate with and therefore receive and exchange with. That's part of the process as well.

And they're saying they want to be very clear to people. Don't get upset if you if you feel like you're behind. They're saying there is no such thing. They're saying even that analogy we made before is it it it generates a false perception of of oh you know you know these guys are over here you're behind here you're catching up. No they're saying that you must understand that a lot of people purposefully chose to incarnate into some very deep waters in order to see light get in that muck see light at that level to break the system apart from within those levels. So they're saying look at it like that. You're not behind, you're not ahead. You're just working on a different aspect of the project. So they're saying that's the way to look at it. Um because they're saying it's it's something they notice a lot in humanity. Humanity has a an a deep tendency to keep comparing themselves to one another. Oh my goodness, I feel really bad and insecure now because you're doing this and I'm not doing it. They're saying that's not the way to look at it at all. Not at all. It's like, think of everyone who has come from very advanced places. You all chose different parts of the field to work on. Some of you went right into the troughs to to muck out all all the excuse my French, the crap in there. Some of you went over to a more uh, you know, savory part to do work over there. I hope over here. It's all different things like that. So, they're saying try to see things like that and try to shed the idea that you are less than or behind or anything like that because that's not the way it is.

>> But they're saying for the waves coming through, they're getting sequentially more refined and they stay within the body of the earth as well. So the earth is literally charging with these multi-dimensional light energetics. It's filling, filling, expanding, expanding and it's reaching into the atmosphere, into the oceans, to everywhere. Everything is being um um touched by this living intelligent light streams that are coming through. That has a cleansing function as well on the land and in in the waters in the sea.

>> Yes, they're saying cleansing and transmutational because it's uh some systems rather than being broken down and and literally uh nulled out or removed are actually being transformed back into a better state that they used to have.

>> So it's it's a shape. It's it's like a a spectrum of lots and lots of different functions that it does. Um, but as an interesting question here, if you're interested, we we could ask the teams how that's all progressing on a scale of how they

>> So they're actually saying, we're glad you asked that question.

>> They're saying that things are proceeding. Um, uh, okay. So, I didn't catch that word. It's um, [laughter] smiling. Um, they're saying it's not quite a word to describe it in your English language, but they'll try to give the sensation so that I can then uh bridge it through. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, that's interesting. So what they're showing me is they're saying if you remember in their conversation before they spoke of many doorways opening that weren't expected to open and they weren't they they weren't seeing as being a possibility to open on those timelines when they were looking before. So remember when these beings look at things they look at potential timelines what's going on now what the most probable timelines are and all the possible other streams that could be taken as well because it's all about our choices. Um and they're saying that so many doors that will enable just um profound um light experiences are opening. Some are just opening a little bit right now. They're just wedging open a little bit, but they were slammed shut. They're saying before they were not opening. [snorts]

>> And that what they mean by doors, they're saying this is in human terms metaphorical. What it really means is is access to higher energetics. Because they're saying this one spoke they I mean they mean me mean yes they mean me when I spoke before about you can only get access to things if you reach a certain level.

>> They're saying to carry that forward as we expand as we gain deeper access to more refined light we then get access to the higher functionality of that living light that's the door opening essentially and so that's what they mean by these there you know it's not like a door It just opens up in front of you like we think of a door. They're saying it's you're gaining access to things that you could not get access access to before and at a rate and in a way that is literally unprecedented. They're saying um it it's it's really incredible. And they're saying that the people humanity the way humanity has has been working on this and doing this so diligently through some of the most difficult circumstances. They're saying and they do understand that they see they see this very clearly. They are just in in awe of what humanity has managed to do through such density and to keep going and to come out the other side with better access, higher access, more deeper access to things that they never access before. And they're saying a lot of this stuff that's coming through is not normally present unless the world is incredibly advanced. You know, we're sort of talking sort of fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, and higher dimensional, you know, existences. They're saying those are actually trickling through to you now because of the access that we're we're creating.

>> They're saying we hope that gives you a better understanding of what you're doing. And they're saying the more you do that, the more you're going to contrast the the crud that's coming out as well. So, they're saying bear that in mind when you look out into the outer world. And this is they're saying this is a very very important message for humanity. When you look what's going on in the world, they're saying, "Please do not get attached or focused on," oh my god, it's all falling to pieces. Everything's going down the drain pan.

>> Absolutely.

>> They're saying quite the opposite. When you clean your house out, you see the rubbish leave as it as it exits the door, you know, and you're going to think, "Oh my god, my house is a mess. Everything's going down the drain. It's all going upside down." Um, they're saying, "No, it isn't. They're saying if you could see as they see the levels of light on this planet now compared to the small pockets of residual um uh they're calling them dark holographic aspects. Um just it's holographic forbes with the absence of love intelligence in them. If you could see the contrast between how much light is there compared to the small residual pockets, you'd think, "Oh my goodness, we're nearly there." And they're saying you'd be right to see that because that is exactly what is happening.

>> It means David that the the collapse of the old world is going to be even more heightened and obvious and accelerated. Yes. Because the light is coming in so fast.

>> Yes. And they're saying that also falls into human perception because they said unfortity is humanity's the majority of humanity's perception has been so attuned to the normal dens densified going on and functions of the old world. And that is one of the things that many people are struggling with which they're not necessarily fully aware of because you know that it's it's they're saying when you settle down and really ask your higher self to see things as they really are and what you're struggling with, you begin to see that quite a significant amount of that is the resistance to let go of the old way of seeing things. You want the new, you want the new energies, but it's still holding on to the old ways of looking at things. And they're saying that is where a lot of tension is being created in a lot of people right now. So they're saying they would like they're making as an offering. They're saying they offer this information to help you better understand and become calmer, more settled, more serene in your own consciousness when you become unsettled. Because it is just old artifacts, old ways of seeing things. Because sometimes we see things in ways that we really don't want to see any different. We really want to see it like this. You know, we can get quite quite staunch about it. You know, that's kind of humanity, I guess, in a way or as it has been. And and I and I can say I found this in my life as well from my early goings on, you know, through many years, you know, I hit some real slammers of walls, you know, and in the end after I had my hissy fits and, you know, all sorts of language and everything of going through some very difficult times. Um, I'd settle down and and my higher self would come in say, "Now, do you understand? Now, do you see?" I said, "Right, I understand now. Sorry." You know, it's [laughter] like, you know, but they don't mean it like that. They were saying you have to just settle down let all the emotions you know fall off let them come out then settle then you have the pawn stills and you can see everything clearly now you can see what was really going on and that's the difficult part for people when you're going through the motions um it's I find it's good practice you know just to allow it let it be enjoy the fact that this is coming out don't embroil in it don't engage in it do not identify with it. Just let yourself settle. Go out for a walk. Get in nature. Just do something. Just say, "Yep, it's there. It's doing its thing." And that in itself can be a bit of a practiced art because we're so used to directly wham engaging with things. And you know, you a lot of people I I used to do quite a bit of that when I was younger and it didn't help at all. As you know, people know it. All it does is it takes you deeper and deeper and deeper into that spiral. It takes you a little bit longer to come out when it uncoils. Um, and so this is the thing that I would I would recommend to to people from my own experience is that whenever this stuff comes up, just allow yourself to feel the yuck, you know, just it is offloading. And the more you can do that, the more graceful you'll because it's like a practice art, you know, the more you practice doing that, it will become more natural, more, you know, what you do normally. And this stuff will just come off you so quickly and it will feel like, oh yeah, that used to take weeks to of bothering and everything to go through. Now it's like two minutes. It's out and it's gone. You know, and it's it's a big thing for humanity to learn to do to just be the peaceful observer of yourself, what you feel, what you are feeling, and what is going on right now. Definitely.

>> So be in stillness. Listen to your meditations because they're exquisite and life-changing. And also, you know, simple phrases I use are things like, "Show me how to embody more light today. Show me how to embody more light." Or, "I'm welcoming in the new light codes into all of my cells for my awakening." You know, phrases like that to welcome it in as opposed to

>> Oh, sorry. Did I interrupt you?

>> No, no, not at all. No,

>> Sorry. I They just came in there, so I didn't want to run you were speaking. Sorry. Um, they were saying, uh, but they would add to that. They would say more so the feeling because what they like to encourage people to do is uh really get to know your sensorial energetic self. Um they're saying there are some areas where um and you know I can say for myself included you know having been very heady in my previous times um they're saying they are noticing quite big pockets of the developing community or conscious developing community um are getting held up with mental grip still you know trying to do everything mentally. They're saying what they would like to offer as an encouragement is try to feel the sensation more even if you don't feel much at the moment. The more you encourage the s the perception or sensorial nature of your feeling of energy um the more that you can actually transform because they're saying part of the difficulty is the human mind has been conditioned to grip. It's been conditioned to and and they're saying the mind's version of understanding and it's been said before is control whereas the heart's version of understanding is compassion which is a complete release and allowing of flow and seeing everything as it is in one way of speaking it as I would say um and so there's just saying for for those people who are struggling just ask yourself are you doing this more mentally than you should you know and do you just need to relax come down into your heart center and just be more playful. And and they're saying it's not about mentally making yourself come out of your mind and go down to your heart. They're saying it's about really relaxing the mind, being really joyful and playful with your mind. Don't bash your mind. They're saying just be playful with it because it's how it's been trained to operate. But it will be it will learn a better way. And the more you can just be playful, be kidittish, goof around, do something silly, you know, get in that energy, you know, then you naturally just settle into your heart center. You don't make yourself go there. You settle in there, you know, quite naturally just by doing that. Then you get the feeling of your higher self much better. You know, the flow of the energies. Um, so and they're saying in a way you're kind of moving from a paradigm where a lot of this work was done mentally because that was the availability at the time and now you're moving you're making that jump over to more being into the heart intelligence center. And so the mind will become an instrument of the heart rather than the governor of things. So that's another aspect they're saying. Uh that's the Arcturan lady who's back again saying that as well. So sorry they just wanted to drop they come in.

>> Wonderful. [laughter] No, absolutely beautiful. Yeah, it's also precious and valuable. But a phrase I often think of when I'm dropping into that state is just imagine that your butter melting in the sun. [laughter]

>> You know, just complete surrender, bliss, stillness, you know that it's it's beautiful. So, I'd love to ask you, and it's a slightly unfair question, David, because you're not an astrologer, but next year on the 2nd of August, 2027, we have the longest eclipse of the century. 6 minutes, 22 seconds, and it's going to be at its darkest point over the Egyptian pyramids, which people, [laughter]

>> Hey, presto, super powerful. The astrology is very powerful. That whole chart is very powerful. So, is there anything you can tell us about the potency of that that eclipse because it feels like a real peak point in our evolution? Does that make sense?

>> Yes, it does. Yeah. So, my higher self, my Arcturian loveite family, uh, source intelligence, would you like to offer any information on this? Um, so the Arcturans and the Syrians are coming forward on this, which is kind of interesting because I believe the Syrians had quite an involvement in the development of that culture as well. So that doesn't surprise me, I guess, in a way. Um, okay. So my highest self and my my lovelight family, please go ahead.

>> Um, so we would like to they're saying we would like to offer this as this is a Syrian male who's here. Uh he's saying coming back to the idea of energy streams and alignments and when things open up and when things flow. Um it's he's showing me showing me an image of something. It's a little bit like certain points certain gateways will open and allow flows to flow through and allow energies to work in certain ways. He's saying this is one such time and it's a very powerful time. Um he's saying that there he can't go into specific details he's saying but he can say that their ancient civilizations were very purposefully setting up these ancient structures to function in a very particular way.

>> And they are they have an interconnection and you know they operate in a they operate with okay he's sort of doing this a little bit okay um he's saying part of the reason is is because um there's active ongoings right now which he he can't be too specific on but he would like to give the audience or people listening a little bit of a flavor of of to your question. So he's saying that imagine the earth much like your own body where your body has a lot of vessels or blood vessels other things your whole nervous system a lot of things interconnecting flowing opening you know just a a very very dynamic system of exchange and he's saying um that your planet is returning to this and a lot of those ancient systems are switching back on you know um as the earth cleanses and clears a a lot of those nodal points particularly where a lot of those artifacts are built um very purposefully uh things are switching back on and they're going to be done in stages because they're saying humanity and and the earth itself is not ready for a full switch on so to speak it has to be done in stages um for acclamation to take place and they're saying it's very important uh and he's saying it's much like these ways throughout the entire process you get a surge and then you get acclamation surge acclamation surge acclamation. That's how it mostly operates. And he's saying it's the same thing with with this one. So something is going to be taking place. He's showing me something, but he doesn't want me to talk about that. Okay. So, but suffice to say that you are very correct. Uh he's saying in in where your question was going and um but he's saying more can be revealed after the event when it when it takes place. So, um, yeah, that's, yeah, it seems like there's quite a [laughter] quite an interesting going on around that, which they want to be a little bit, you know, um, uh, sparse with some of the information, but sometimes they do if something is an ongoing thing that they want to make sure is all works.

>> Beautifully, then they won't necessarily say everything. So, um, yeah. So, he's he's backing away now. He just, you know, has said thank you for that opportunity. So,

>> Yeah. So, yeah, I hope that somewhat helps your question.

>> Therefore, there's going to be a huge amount of human interest in that because it's, you know, it really enormous.

>> So

>> Yeah, I was going to say I understand that because I'm quite keen on on knowing more about that stuff myself, but you know, often they'll tell me, well, that's enough at the moment as well. So [laughter] it's like you know and I think it it's it's kind of necessary as well because not only for the ongoing operation aspect but also because of the fact that um um part of the the beauty that the the teams that I work with often do as a as as um as the way they assist is they love for people to have their own experience. You know, they they often mention about, you know, knowing knowledge is one thing, but actually living the energy of something and getting your direct uh sensorial perception of what just took place can often be very different. And so that's that's one thing I find they're often very keen on on letting people do, which I think is a very beautiful and very good way of doing it, you know, um because, you know, we're some we're all sometimes too keen about wanting to run on about giving lots of information, but I think the experience of things is is is the real key.

>> Yeah. And again, it's learning to feel it through the body rather than just learn it through the mind. You know, it's being in the moment in the body, isn't it? That's really important. And that's why it's really important to keep your nervous system calm. A lot of grounding, um, breath work, candle gazing, meditation, anything. Hug a tree, be in nature, anything that grounds your your nervous system because there's just so much happening that's changing so rapidly that we haven't lived at this pace of change before. I think it's important to say.

>> If you don't mind, yeah, my my higher self and actually I feel the the core intelligence within me. Um uh I mean the source intelligence and my high selves are the same but it's it's it's the stepping down expression. So sometimes I use them a bit interchangeably. Um but that uh what's coming through is saying that yes humanity has has been taught and has learned to overuse the mind in ways the mind was never meant to be used. So yes you are you are supposed to have intellectual function. It was supposed to have intuitive function but those are supposed to be uh instruments or extensions of the heart intelligence is which is where we're going back to now and I as the way I see it uh in my own experience that's one been one of the biggest difficulties in moving through my own path in making that transition from being very intellectual and very head-centered where my whole world was intellectual to being um you know um of the heart center and my mind being an extension of it. It wasn't you know for my path it wasn't easy. Um but they're saying but I I forgot the joyful playful bit because you know it was I was always being too serious about things you know and um but they after a while that message sank in and they were saying that that's the key these you're not being silly by being playful. You're being more of your true nature when you're being playful because the true nature of source intelligence is playful. It's inquisitive. It's wonderful. It's delightful. It's all those beautiful things. Those aren't whimsical things. Those are natural natural uh qualities of of that energy and you can quite easily return to them just by enveloping yourself in them and and and doing that you know. Um, so um, yeah, sorry that's just to add it's it's really you know this has been a beautiful conversation. I mean you've shared so richly with us Dave and given us so much inspiration and and excitement about you know the kind of future we can start to look forward to imminently. I mean, we're absolutely in it now. So, in this crucible of change. So, you know, God bless you for all that. Is there anything else you'd like to leave us with before we before we close?

>> Yeah. So, my highest self, my source intelligence, my Arcturan lovelight family, uh my platon love light family or my Syrian love family. Is anything that you would like to add here? I know that you mentioned my higher self that you'd like to add a message when we uh before we started recording. Yes. So uh it's the core intelligence within me. Um it's a message of hope and um but it's not hope as we would define it in human terms. It's not a it's not a oh my I hope this works out. It's it's saying rest assured dear humanity that everything is working and everything is flowing. Um, and as has been said, far better than was expected 10, even 20 or 30 of your years ago, you are making transformative progress in ways that were not expected to be, as was just said many decades ago. And as been said in this conversation, many many gateways and openings are opening daily for you by what you are doing, the energy that you have inside you and that you allow to emanate from you. And so here is the message. Relax humanity. This is already well in hand. What it is asked of you is to simply relax into your being. Enjoy your day. Enjoy your family. Enjoy yourself, your life. Celebrate yourself. Celebrate what you do. Let go of the harshness. Let go of all judgment. There is nothing to judge. You have done and are doing exceptional work. No matter how you feel about yourself, whether you feel you're not doing enough, whether you feel exhausted, simply being the expression that you are emanating the living light intelligence within you is exactly what you came here to do. And yes, there have been clearing patches and there are clearing patches and there will be perhaps more to clear depending on where your path is leading. But the most important thing and the reason for the clearing is so that you can emanate more so that you can ground more of the real you into your human form and experience. And this in its nature is of joy. It is of beauty. It is of sweetness, of kindness. It is of flow. Do not be scared or ashamed to be those qualities for they will effortlessly take you into your core. They will effortlessly remind you of who you really are. For as it has been said, this is not an intellectual exercise. Dear souls, you are relaxing back into who you really are, the real you. And in doing so, you are learning to let go of every intellectual, shall it be said, facade or identity or however you choose to call it. That which you hold on to that is not in fact you. You see, dear souls, the closer you become to yourself, the more you let go. And when you have completely let go, you will have returned to your true self. It is that simple, sweet ones. And so when you find yourself struggling, ask yourself this question. How and why are you holding on? And what is it that you are holding on to? And what is it that you fear to lose by letting go of it? Because it is not you. And so sweet ones with this message remember simplicity, playfulness, joy, sweetness and relaxation. It is asked of you to practice and delight in these for these simple measures will help you accelerate far faster than you can possibly imagine. It really is that simple, sweet ones. You are all so dearly loved. There are immense civilizations that are looking after many facets of this unfolding project. You are in good hands. You are in the perfect hands of your higher self in every moment. And in those times when you feel that your higher self is not there, those are simply the times when you have a lot of shall we say human stuff coming through, passing through, passing out and your higher self is taking care of you and assisting this purging with you. But as it passes out, it saturates your ability to perceive and feel your higher self. So it gives you the illusionary perception that your higher self is not there, is not helping you. But this is not true, sweet ones. It is not true. The opposite is in fact true. Your higher self is more deeply with you, more deeply assisting. But like being in a room that you were once in silence and could can perceive the slightest sound is now filled full of people shouting at the top of their voices, screaming for your attention as they pass through out the door. That is the analogy of what it is to have human stuff come up and out and leave. And did your higher self leave you? No. It was with it within you, within that room all along, helping everything pass from one door out the other with as much grace and as ease as you will allow. And that is another key, allowance, sweet ones. Allow your process to unfold and be aware where your beloved minds may engage and try to engage and sort things out. There is nothing to sort out, sweet ones. Peacefully allow and peacefully observe. And with this message today, it is wished for you the sweetest love flow that you will allow yourself to connect with inside your center in relaxation, in joy and peace. You are love intelligence. You always have been and you always will be. And so it is. That was really beautiful. David, [laughter]

>> You've just given us so much uh so much to feel wonderful about, hopeful, excited, inspired. Um was really beautiful. Um that was jam-packed of golden nuggets.

>> It just kept coming. It's like

>> It was extraordinary. [laughter] It was just you couldn't have got any more in. I mean it was just absolutely jam-packed with wisdom, you know, higher obviously much higher galactic and ancient wisdom and it was it was really beautiful. It's like I you know I can't be more grateful for your your time and the opportunity to talk to you again because these these conversations are always so precious for me personally and and for everybody listening. I hope you've really really loved it as much as um I have um in conversation with David. So

>> Thank you very much Pam and yeah, thank you everyone who's been listening and again, you know, the teams uh often congratulate everyone on the work they're doing because it and and that's not for empty reason or just nice you know [laughter] I guess what you want just being nice so to speak. Yes, it it it is really meant because I really get the feeling of just how in awe they are because again it's so easy as a human being to look up at high mighty beings like wow look at them they're so cool and what have we got down here you know sometimes it's easy to see it that way but the way they see it they see it the opposite they look at us in utter reverence because to come down here and do what we do in the mix of what we have to do it in takes an immense amount amount of high-level being to do that. And I'm not kidding when I say that. I really mean that. The the the souls that have come here were was selected because of their very very uh deep and profound experience in being able to ascend under difficult circumstances in difficult energetics in environments having learned that and have that in you. So if you are here in human form on this planet, you are one of those qualified people or beings. So you know they it wasn't just a case of oh yeah yeah jump in there have a just help yourselves. No that that aspect is being handled very carefully because the right souls in the right place at the right time have to be there to do what they're here to do. So just remember that when you're not feeling so good about yourself. Just remind yourself that you have been you selected yourself and the teams that are part of the process of who comes who comes to incarnate here you know recognize the light that you have and agreed in in council that yes you should go here and you should do this. So just remember that you know that's the light that you have inside you and that's why you're here. So definitely

>> No, it's beautiful and thank you for that and it's you know, it is a courageous lifetime. I sense a truly courageous lifetime of being the bridgebuilders to

>> A very different level of consciousness and uh and when we can see it in that context, it's it's enormously exciting. And I think just occasionally, as you know, you've shared with us tonight, we need to catch our breath and pat ourselves on the back as we look down the mountain and realize how far we've come up the mountain. And it's been a hard trek and you know there's more to go but we can relax more knowing that we're we're beyond that tipping point now. That's what I feel energetically. It's like a snowball rolling down a hill now. You know it's getting

>> Oh, sorry. Sorry. You were still

>> Oh, no. It's just getting easier because there seems to be such a momentum behind this new consciousness that it feels easier now than it did a year or two ago. Much easier. I I feel.

>> Yes. And I and I feel all along because you know they've always reminded me, David, just relax. Just let go. It's fine in times when I've gotten higglypickly about things that were going on for me. And uh it's it's so true. And I feel that the actual tipping point of this actually took place quite some time ago,

>> But it's like it was boing and we sort of tipped the balances and we were working our way up. And and I think that's it just it really is important for people to remind themselves, please just if if if there's one human bit of advice I could turn off your TV, stop watching the news or

>> Well, you call it the news. I call it something else, but it's [laughter]

>> Get rid of your television. That's a really good idea.

>> Yes. I mean, I I have to say, you know, just even just give it a week. You know, turn off all the social media you might I mean, I'm not just a suggestion. You can do what you like, but you know, I found when you just just let give that stuff a break, you'll notice such a significant change in your peace, your balance, everything will start to settle down. You'll realize the actual agitation that was being whipped up inside you without you realizing it just by doing that stuff. Just simple little things like that, you know, that I think that was the message they were trying to say. Get on with enjoying your life. You know that you're not you're not in you're not in amongst this serious stuff where everything's about to go wrong. No, just put that to one side. That's not your concern. You know, just be joy. Emanate it. Just enrich. Fill the world with that. You know, that's how you're going to really move forward even faster. And at the same time, you're going to be really happy doing it. So, you know, definitely.

>> The more love and joy we feel, the more we're going to magnetize that inut numbers, you know, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So, no, I'm a great proponent for that. Even have t-shirts saying that as as you may know. So, [laughter] [clears throat] so David, total joy, total joy to share with you and yeah, I I'm sure people will absolutely love this and just find it so valuable. It just it's just such grounded advice as well as being very high level advice and um yeah I just really honor the time with you and um

>> Likewise, thank you very much. Yeah, definitely. I I I love And you know, I often I get so many comments from people saying when you two get together, it was just, you know, you talk about the most brilliant things and I I I really, you know, because you know, I think of you as such a a wonderful friend and an amazing soul, the stuff that you've gone out and done and the work that you do and uh yeah, we we tend to conjure up a lot of cool topics and have some great energy creators. So, absolutely, it's the same for me with you as well. Well, pure joy. Pure joy. So, thank you, Dave, from the bottom of my heart and thank you everybody who's been listening and just hope you absolutely love this. And uh and remember, we're rocking it. We're rocking it.

>> Yeah. Lots of love to everyone. Hope you got

>> Lots of love. God bless. Bye.