Topper’s Talk | Archit Dongre | AIR 3 | UPSC CSE 2024 | Classroom Foundation Course

Around 30 questions, generally, I have observed. And other than that, sir, I try to do this educated guessing thing. It ends up coming to around 80 questions. So, it naturally happens that way. I never choose that I want to do these many questions. We had also given this Vision ka Abhyas, three Abhyas tests happened, all India ones. So, I had gone to the examination center. I had done all the practice that needed to be done. Uh, I gave around 15 mock tests for Prelims. Uh, because of the simple reason that its key, too, will have to be revised. And once you give a test, for me personally, sir, it takes a lot of time to revise at a key. Four hours, five hours, I take to revise at a key. So, I have done a lot of picking and choosing from answer, topper answer copies, in terms of structuring the answer. Answer writing, where diagrams could come. Sir, I think in that period, one should take a break. Genuinely take a break. Because if you start studying for the next attempt, you will burn out by half way down the mark, right? Is that I prepare each thing in my DAF very well. I had documents on my iPad for every subject point in the DAF. Confidence is one thing, it should not be baseless. I went and I prepared what I actually did not know. Your confidence comes from the fact that I know what I will be talking about.

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To welcome our foundation student, Archit Parang Dogre, stage, who has secured an All India Rank 3 in the UPSC Civil Services Examination this year. Before we start, I would like to welcome Archit here and just say a few words about him. He hails from Maharashtra. After, after his schooling in Pune and Mumbai, he pursued a B.Tech degree from VIT Vellore. After his stint in the corporate sector, he made the deliberate decision to actually prepare for UPSC examination. In his second attempt, he scored a 153 rank and has been under IPS training. This is his third attempt. And in this attempt, he has scored a total of 1038 marks and 190 in the interview. A huge round of applause for Archit. A very interesting thing is that Archit took Philosophy as his optional, and not because of what, what the trend was, but what he really liked. That also reflects his, one of his interests. Archit has been associated with us as a foundation student and also in Abhyas initiatives, amongst others. Now, to reflect this, to actually celebrate this achievement, I would start with the felicitation. I would have requested our esteemed faculty members to come to the stage. I would request Smriti Ma'am to come to the stage and please do the honors, Ma'am. Please, a huge round of applause for Smriti Ma'am.

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Now, I would humbly request Himanshu Khatri Sir to please come on stage and do the honors, Sir.

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I would request Aamil Hasan Sir to please come on the stage and do the [Music] honors.

Now, I request Jay Krishna Sir, please, Sir, come on stage and do the honors.

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I would request Jatin Gupta Sir, please come on the stage and do the honors of felicitating. A huge round of applause for Sir.

Now, I would request Rajesh Sir to please come on stage, Sir. A huge round of applause for Rajesh Sir and Archit.

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Now, without any further delay, I would invite our panel members to come on the stage, please.

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So, a very warm welcome to all of you and, and thanks a lot for turning up on this beautiful, warm, sunny Sunday morning here in Delhi and to be able to, to spare your time. I don't need to introduce Archit. We have already known a bit about him through whatever introduction was given about him. So, I will come straight to the point because you people are here to understand what went into his journey and possibly take inspiration from him. So, first of all, congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you so much, Sir. And we are extremely proud here at Vision IAS that we have been able to contribute to your journey. We also have amongst us Himanshu Khatri Sir, who is an IRS officer from the batch of 2014, and is presently associated with Vision as a faculty, and perhaps one of the most loved faculties here at Vision. So, if we can please put a huge round of applause for two of our other panelists today.

So, Archit, going back into your background, and we will try to keep this conversation as engaging as possible. We will take questions from the audience also in between, but please keep your questions as brief as possible so that we have time for more questions to be taken from the audience. So, Archit, would it be safe to call you a Punekar?

Sir, I have been staying all across India because of my father's job. So, but currently, I am settled in Pune. So, it's safe to call me a Pune.

So, you spent some time in Mumbai as well?

Yes.

So, let me ask a very burning question that I always face when I traveled to your part of the country. Do Mumbaikers make a better Vada Pav or do Punekars do theirs?

Sir, I have to stay in Pune. So, Pune. Punekars. I don't think people from Mumbai would agree to that.

Definitely not, right? So, because last time when I was in Pune, I asked that where you get the best Vada Pav. A friend told me that it's three hours from here in Mumbai. So, anyway, jokes apart, we would want to understand what really went into inspiration for you to prepare for this examination? Was it something that started in the early years or was it something that you decided probably as you grew up? What, what led to that?

Sir, my decision to go for the civil services was not one of like the childhood dreams that most people have. It was a very, a decision that I took very later on in my life. So, basically, when I was working in my IT company, I was looking at different streams of career options that I could choose. So, a lot of things came up in my mind. I was planning to go for an MBA, maybe go to the US for a Masters, pursue engineering in a, in a higher level. But, uh, I came across civil services as an option, and that kind of intrigued me a lot. Basically, the diversity, diversity is what I was looking for, because I did not want to get stuck to a particular project or a particular company. So, in that sense, civil service really picked my interest, and that is when I decided to go for this exam. Actually, in my college days also, early on, somebody had proposed this idea to me. But at that point of time, I was not quite ready to go for such a competitive exam. But it took some time for me to decide that this probably would be the best decision going forward.

If I ask, was there any one particular moment when you truly felt that I want to now give this exam? Because a lot of people face this dilemma which you are facing or which you faced. That whether I should go for Masters or whether I should go and pursue a job or whether I should go and take the leap of faith and prepare for the exam.

Sir, uh, I looked at the examination and the nature of this examination. We have the Mains exam, it is a subjective paper. For me personally, I feel I do better when I am allowed to express myself. Which is the same reason why I could not do very well in my earlier JEE papers, which is an MCQ based paper. I need, I need space to express myself and project my ideas. And I think that is where my skill lies. And I feel like the Mains exam gives me this opportunity, and I thought this would be somewhere I could do well. So, I made a conscious decision to not give the CAT or some MCQ based exam where it's just an OMR sheet. But a paper where I can reflect my ideas, my thoughts. So, that is why I decided to pursue this exam.

Fair enough. And you, you have been in the IPS training. How is the IPS training been for you? Has, has it been a roller coaster of an experience, if you could just tell the audience a bit about that? And I am sure Himanshu Sir would also be all ears to hear about the IPS training.

So, sir, the IPS training is fantastic. I mean, the most scientifically designed training there is, in my opinion. Plus, the faculty, the ustads, the instructors, they are always there for you. And I mean, a great deal of attention is paid to each probationer that is there, in terms of physical development. You will have deep opportunities to do everything, battle obstacle courses, running, firing, horse riding, swimming, like you, what have you. And in that sense, I feel like it is one of the best personality development changes that you can have, is to undergo the training. And sir, just truly grateful to have been a part of the training.

Yeah, great. And, and you, you being someone who has been brought up in the environment of armed forces, your father a decorated officer. Did that, did that in any way create a confusion in your mind if you should pursue a career in the defense forces or civil services? Was that also an option that was there in your mind?

Sir, from home, very thankful for this. My parents never forced me to do anything. They did not project their ideas on me. My father has always been saying, "Jo karna hai kar," like, whatever you want to do, do it. But do whatever you do, do it well. So, this kind of pressure like go for the forces or go for the civil service, never an point of dilemma in my mind. It was a personal decision. I chose it out of conscious choice. So, yeah. No such ideas or dilemmas.

Are, are, are there any similarities, Sir, between IPS and the armed forces training, which could have possibly been, like, would you have any inputs on that in terms of what you have been exposed to?

Well, I had, as part of IRS Customs, there is like, roughly one and a half to two months of, you know, police training, you would say. Uh, but, yeah, I was surprised that, you know, we were exposed to more weapons compared to what he has, has been so far. Uh, if he had completed his training, he would have, uh, our training happened in NISAH, Hyderabad. Right? So, that's the, uh, CISF training academy. So, they have a very, uh, brilliant training, and it's, I can understand the regime which they follow. It's their training is also very scientifically designed. So, yeah, that's it.

So, I wanted to like, you know, ask a question. You resigned from your job. So, at that point of time, obviously, I understand that your parents supported you because your father said, "Jo karna hai karo." You did not clear your first attempt. You missed by two marks your Prelims. If you had not cleared the second attempt, then what was your backup plan? Would you have gone back to your private sector job and continued giving attempts? Or you would have started preparing for some other government examination where you got the opportunity to express yourself as a backup? Or you would have simply stuck to, uh, the UPSC and like, hypothetically completed?

Sir, so before I quit my job, I was on very good terms with the people in that, in my workplace. Uh, a few of the other people in my work environment, I had kind of switched their companies and joined a startup. So, I had somewhere in the back of my mind spoken to them, "Ki, if I end up not clearing this exam, what are the opportunities?" So, they were very welcoming. "You can join us, you can work, you can learn, and from there, we can see where you can go." So, this kind of a setup had been designed already. Other than that, I was also clear that if I would not be able to clear this exam, there were opportunities to pursue higher education, maybe go for a Masters, uh, pursue an MBA, or a distance learning course. So, all these options were there. But, uh, to be very honest, I was never really dependent on those backup plans. I was completely immersed in this preparation. Uh, to be, I never thought of a situation where I would not clear. So, kind of obsessed with this preparation type. So, but leap is a very important component. That is one aspect.

For sure, sir. But had you not cleared your second attempt? Then would you, would have gone to that startup?

Sir, I had very clear instructions from home. Three attempts, that's all I get. Okay. So, my father had made it very clear. Don't spend too much time. More than three attempts is not wise. Or if you want to give further attempts, be sure that you are doing it employed somewhere. So, that is what I had. So, there was clarity on this part. So, it was not much of an issue or a burden in my mind. So, that was the case.

Because that is important because at times we get stuck in the UPSC cycle and, uh, there for, uh, you know, then with each passing attempt, the psychological burden, it keeps on actually increasing.

Yes. Yes. So, that is important. Uh, any, uh, like, although, you know, your interview was pending. Any advice would you have for working professionals? That is, those who are like, uh, like you are also part of IPS training at that point of time, you cleared, you know, and got the present rank. So, therefore, is there a possibility that someone can be a working professional and at the same time prepare for this exam? Or there has to be like, at least one year or two years of dedicated preparation? Meaning, how, you know, it can be?

Sir, from the stories that we hear, it's definitely possible. People are getting top five ranks also with a job. Uh, to, how to manage that, in that sense, I think it is going to be difficult. There, there have to be sacrifices. But the essential game here is of time management. So, for example, in my first attempt, when I was preparing, I had a 10 to six job. So, I used to wake up at around 4:30. 4:30 to 10, I used to study. It was a work from home job, luckily. 4:30 to like 9:30, 5, I used to study. And post my work hours, from 6 to 8:00, I used to go to the gym. At two, 10, I used to again study for two hours. The current affairs, basic things. And then I used to close my day. So, I used to get around six hours of sleep as well. I used to get around five to six hours of study as well, and to do my job also. So, but sometimes on the weekends, you have to capitalize a lot. Uh, weekends, I used to put in around 13 to 14 hours non-stop. Because that is, uh, the time that you get out of your job. Uh, so, these are the things that you have to do. Time management is going to be of the essence.

Yeah. So, basically, it's a very disciplined kind of them.

For sure. Yes, certainly.

Okay. Would you face any bouts of lack of motivation as well? Because that's a question that we get very frequently from the students that initially, the discipline or the enthusiasm is a lot, but when you start preparing over a period of time, it starts fizzling out. Was there a period like that, ever, and what did you do in that kind of situation, if it happened, that when you felt that the discipline is, uh, slightly going up and down? Bodies or the energy is not, or the enthusiasm is not the same. First time when you read, it feels very good, right? Second time is when it starts becoming more.

Sir, for me, it's kind of a neural network thing. That if there is a lack of discipline, I start getting anxious. So, I feel guilty, and then I suddenly get back on track. That kind of self-regulating mechanism I had observed in me. But other than that, sir, I, I genuinely enjoyed the preparation. I like to read these things. My optional was out of interest. So, I could not, and chose this out of my own will. So, there is no much cause for complaint, right? So, I was basically on track. I had my fair share of bad days. Definitely, there is a, there will be a time when you burn out. Go out with friends, meet family, take a trip. 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We will have to revise it multiple times. So it should not be like you will half the half way through the preparation and then you realize you are not really enjoying it much. Like avoid these kinds of things. That would be my take on it.

But other than that, you can look at other aspects such as the availability of resources. Uh availability of mentors. And if you want your overlap with GS. Which is the three four pillars that people generally focus upon while choosing their option. But for me personally, sir, I chose out of interest. But uh people can explore these options. Like slightly stretching upon this if you will allow me. Let's say, I am a student who does not know what is my interest. So, can there be some specific tools and sub-specific strategies or mechanisms through which I can assess that, okay, you know, this is the subject where in future, right? I can excel upon. Maybe this is my interest because initially there can be many students who are like, "Oh, whatever you teach, we'll study, man. We want to become IAS, man. Okay? Whatever you do, just do it. IAS is enough, right? Whatever you say, we'll study, man. Nowadays, philosophy is trending. We'll become philosophical. Okay? So, it means, which topper are they taking nowadays? Which topper should we take?" No, but your point is very important because interest is the key, right? Because that will actually allow you to study for longer hours, right? You will get, you know, burnt out relatively much later if you are studying the subject of your interest. So, can there be some pointers through which we can know that my interest is more here or a little less here?

So, I think you can look at your temperament. For example, sir, anthropology tends to work better with engineers. As generally, I have heard this opinion. So, maybe what background you are from? For example, you have an economics degree. Maybe economics could be a good option for you because simply based on the fact of familiarity. Plus, you have done that degree already in your undergraduate. There has to be some kind of interest you would have had while taking that subject. So, I mean, you will have to find out. Maybe go through the syllabus. Read. Attend most of these optional coaching, sir. I think they have an introductory class. They give you a few sessions free. So, maybe look at a few sessions to see what generally picks interest. But at the end of the day, don't just base it purely on marks. Like, "Oh, that topper is taking it, this one is taking it." Don't do that. You might end up making a bad decision.

Also, sir, I would like to add a point that taking an option out of interest is not just because you can study long hours. For example, I read a few books unrelated to the syllabus on philosophy. And I would add those points. It gave me an edge over other philosophy aspirants. So, these kinds of things will also help you. So, in that sense, I feel like interest is very important. Definitely. Meaning, if you are only in those areas where you are interested, you can actually beat, you know, you can actually excel, excel, right? So, yeah, Archit, you talked about overlap with the GS also. If you could tell the students, since we are talking about philosophy optional, how did it help you in GS preparation? Because again, the general understanding is that certain options have a significant overlap with GS. But I believe that even philosophy has a lot to give to GS and vice versa. So, if you could speak a lot, a bit about that.

Sir, philosophy in terms of GS overlap, I strongly think that ethics has a very good base for philosophy to be added. So, meaning, for almost every question in ethics, you can use philosophical terms. It comes in almost everywhere. Utilitarianism, because philosophy not just has these Indian and Western philosophers as a part, there is a religious philosophy and there is a socio-political philosophy as well. And socio-political philosophy will encompass most of your principles from GS 2 as well, the constitutional principles, because the idea behind why democracy, what is autocracy? So, all these things will kind of help you. Other than that, sir, I think in the essay paper, philosophy, because that has become a pain point for many candidates in the recent years, the philosophical kind of topics. So, that helps you a lot there as well. Yes, sir. So, for example, there is always going to be an essay topic which, uh, slightly leans back on the principle of change and development. So, I always start my introduction in these types of essays with the idea of Samkhya philosophy. Like, endless cycles of destruction and construction. So, it kind of gives a nice start to the essay. A good segue into your arguments. So, I feel like you can capitalize on certain aspects by using philosophy as an option. Update, right? So, that's kind of helpful. So, did you ever feel like quitting UPSC preparation after taking philosophy optional? No, sir. Not too much philosophy. Yeah, I think philosophy can do that to you at times, right? The subject, the subject itself can open up your mind to a world of possibilities. But then it should be in a good way, in a good way. Yeah, right?

Coming back to your decision to quit the job, Archit. Because I have been through that stage. Or when it becomes very difficult to decide whether you want to take that leap of faith and prepare for the exam. Hmm. In that, how important was the support from your family? And what did they say to you at that point of time? And did you feel any amount of doubt at that time that I am leaving the job, but what if this doesn't work? Then do I get back to it? So, you talk a bit about it, if you can just come back to that again. The decision of taking that leap of faith. To leave the job and to leave what you are doing at that point of time.

Sir, the leap of faith was primarily based on one thing, is that I had studied for lesser hours, but those hours were very good, productive hours. Because I had positive of time, I ended up utilizing that time very well. What happened was that I was not very clear about how many questions to attempt in the prelims paper. So, I ended up attempting around 60-63 questions, which is quite less. Uh, I attempted around 87 questions now. So, I missed the cut-off by just two marks. And that is kind of when I realized that I have to take this leap of faith because I need to push through this attempt. So, there is no saying like if I would have stayed in my job, I would not have gotten the same rank. I cannot say that. Probably, probably could have gotten the same rank as well. But just that this inner gut feeling, I followed that. I want to take the leap of faith. Also based on the fact that my financial condition was good. My parents always supported me. Uh, I sustained about a year in Delhi based on my savings purely. So, that kind of embarrassment of asking money from my father started in the second year, but it was pretty good, a good situation up till the first year. So, nothing of that sort, but just pure inner gut feeling that I wanted to give a full-time attempt and that's why I chose.

Uh, so you said that you attempted only 60 questions. So, let me put it like this. So, like whether you should be Rahul Dravid or Sachin Tendulkar or, uh, Sehwag when it comes to attempting the prelims. Like, what is like how much defensive, how much aggressive? Certain, meaning, just like a small idea. Let's say the question paper is extremely tough. The candidate does not know that it is extremely tough. You know, she has just encountered the first three questions, first five questions. So, exactly what goes into the psyche in the examination hall where you decide whether to be gravit? That is, only attempt those questions where you are extra sure or follow a balanced approach. Right? Mildly aggressive or be like over-aggressive. Obviously, if the question paper is easy, then being defensive, defensive will hurt you. So, what, how should the student actually judge this thing? How did you go through it? Because you cleared all the three, uh, you cleared the rest of the two clips. So, how did you go about it?

Sir, the way I attempt the paper is, I do not have a fixed set of questions, like I have to do this many questions in my mind. I know from, from the fact that generally in the UPSC level of difficulty in GS 1, I end up attempting between 85 to 87, sometimes up till just 82 questions as well. Uh, how I decide the amount of questions I want to do is, I look at each question. I never solve the paper in two iterations. I go linearly from one to 100 and I mark as I go in the OMR. Uh, I look at each question. I think about this question, what do I know about it? Do I know anything about this? What are the chances of getting this question right? If I do not know the concept itself, I will never attempt it. I never do a blind guess. No matter even if my attempts come till 17, I will not do a blind guess. So, I never think about the particular, uh, point that I have to do this many questions. But I always look at each question individually and try to get marks out of it. That is my approach. That is, like, before I gave that second prelims, I had clearly decided in my mind that I have to extract marks from the paper. So, I look at each question, read all the options, then I think about what I know about this. And based on that, I try to eliminate options, and that is what I would call is educated guessing. Based on what my knowledge is, I try to crack the question. So, in that sense, sir, uh, if you do directly from the sources, what I know, it's around 30 questions. Generally, I have observed. And other than that, sir, I try to do this educated guessing. One thing, it ends up coming to around 80 questions. So, it naturally happens that way. I never choose that I want to do this many questions. So, but, but in my first attempt, sir, the mistake that I made of attempting 60 questions is that I did only half the educated guessing that I should have done. I should have done more educated guessing. Uh, a slight amount of risk has to be taken. You will never be sure, completely sure about the guesses you are making. But if you are even 50 to 60% sure, I think it's a valid attempt. That ball. Was it your first attempt when these, uh, UPSC came out with that unique kind of options, multiple options? That is my second attempt. Second attempt. So, that, how make statements are correct? Seven, five, six. So, even if a student knows that two statements are correct, but they are actually wrong, right? He will get marks. So, that's it. Was it a shocker to you? How did you, like, ah, operate in the exam? Because it was a very big shocker because I will tell you the first prelims that I didn't qualify. That I had this kind of fear in my mind about prelims. That if I quit my job, I have come here, if I don't qualify prelims, one year again in this cycle, just doing nothing. So, I was quite apprehensive about the prelims paper. When I opened the question paper, my fear turned real. But at that point of time, this whole thing that I have to crack this paper. Because, sir, I have practiced in a way that I was like, I have to dominate this paper. I will not cow down under pressure. So, I firstly, one of the things that I do which helps me a lot is, I flip through the paper to get a sense of awareness, general awareness that I am in this paper. I don't, there is nothing unexpected left for me to see. Now I know this paper is there. These are the questions. Now let's start solving this paper. So, one by one, I tried to crack the questions. I tried to solve the answers. And more or less, sir, because the preparation was good, I knew quite a lot of questions around. So, when you have glanced through the whole paper, right? You are in the worst-case scenario, that confidence level is very down. That, in that sense, that the options, the way they are designed, they are very unique, very new. So, at that point of time, how did you deal with that? How did you calm yourself down?

Sir, firstly, a lot of practice had gone into this. Uh, we had, as out given this Vision ka Abhyas 3 Abhyas tests happened, all India ones. So, I had gone to the examination center. I had done all the practice that needed to be done. In the second Abhyas, I remember, sir, I had got around 117 marks. I was 82 in the list. That kind of gave me the confidence that that's actually what I wanted to see, that if we are giving an all-India paper, what is my standing. So, when I came to this real paper, I was like, "There, I was in the top 100 at least." Even if this is a relative paper, cut-off will be decided relatively. So, if I was good there, I have to be good here also. So, that kind of fear didn't affect me that much. And also, sir, I know that prelims is a game of confidence and mindset. So, I did not let that affect me. Uh, very thankful to myself that I was not able to get cowed down under pressure. I maintained my cool, took one question at a time, looked at the options, and calmly tried to manage the paper. So, that really helped.

Okay, I have a question. So, you said that the performance in Abhyas was good, so confidence came. I see the flip side also at times. Hmm. That students, they are well-prepared. Many times, the scores in the test series or in tests do not come well. So, they then start looking at it in a negative manner that I am probably not very well prepared for the exam, or I should skip the attempt or something like that. Did you encounter that kind of fear at any point of time in any test, and how did you manage that stress and anxiety?

Sir, mostly getting low marks was in my optional papers and a few prelims papers. The way that I went about it is that whichever paper went bad, I used to revise the keys of that paper very well. In fact, in the last 20 days before the prelims, I had not given a single mock for the simple reason that I don't want to affect my confidence. Because I say it again, that prelims is a very big game of confidence and mindset. It is to take out numbers from the examiner's kitty, you have to ace the paper. So, in that sense, whenever I had a bad paper, immediately come back home, see what you have done wrong, what kind of mistakes you have made. If there are silly mistakes, most of the mistakes used to be because of the simple fact that I am not reading the question properly. What they are trying to ask me, I am getting over-excited because I see some familiar options and I go ahead with it. So, these kinds of mistakes, I also kind of tell myself, read the question properly, look at the options, think about what you know about the question, and then solve it. Like, this is my four-step procedure. I practiced a lot about this in prelims, especially. So, just coming back, revising, making sure that you don't make the same mistakes again and improving. And if somebody does that, sir, I genuinely feel like it's always an upward linear graph. A few dips here and there. But overall, it's an upward linear graph. So, you will see your own progress, and these kinds of bad days and negative emotions are avoided. You, you generally are confident that I have improved over a period of time, and it will generally help.

So, Jatin sir, is that what you call mindfulness? If I am, I mean, I think Archit can explain mindfulness better. Mindfulness actually helps a lot because, uh, in, like, whatever we have studied for a year, that is right in its own place. What you do in those two hours, that is the real game. And to be self-aware, like, for example, sir, in the CSAT of 2023, that was also a shocker. Like, I was not prepared for such a tough CSAT. I started doing maths because of my engineering background, and I was like, "Maths is short-shot marks, no subjectivity." So, I started with that. I realized that I am not able to crack these questions, it's taking so much time. In that paper, thankfully, I was self-aware because I had flipped through the paper. I had an idea that comprehension questions are there at the end, they are scoring questions. I changed strategy mid-paper. I went to the English questions, 27 questions I did non-stop. Then I was like, "Okay, even if I get a few wrong, at least 45 marks are in the bag. Now I have to pick and choose the easy maths questions and qualify." So, course correction within the paper. And that will, that will be very important. We don't know what this year's prelims will be like. Nobody knows. New options, maybe match the following, whatever they want. Fill in the blanks. Nobody knows what it is going to be asked. I think this is a very important point for all of you that, "It happens many times in the exam that you get scared by seeing something." So, you need to know how to change your strategy according to the situation. This is very, very crucial. I think this was a great input.

I have one more question about preparation for prelims. And why we are not talking about the book list and a whole lot of other things is because we believe that all that information is already available to you. You know, we would want you to talk more about the preparation aspect so that these people understand what truly goes into preparing for the exam. So, is there any magical number of, number of tests that you should give, and then one becomes confident? When did you feel it? One, you said that when I got 117 in Abhyas 2, I felt very confident after that. But is there any number of tests, minimum, that a person should give? And second question is, what should be the breakup in this? That I should give some, I can give some at home as well, and these many I should definitely go and give in the exam center.

Sir, I think the magical number is the number at which you feel confident that I, I am good, ready for prelims, and I will ace it. When you have that confidence, it is good enough. And especially, obviously, because you are getting marks which are above the cut-offs of the previous years, whatever that is. Uh, that. Uh, I gave around 15 mock tests for prelims. Uh, because of the simple reason that its key also has to be revised. And once you give a test, I, for me personally, sir, it takes a lot of time to revise that key. Four hours, five hours I take to revise that key, because I will go back to my study material, revise it from there as well. I will highlight in that. Because at the end of the preparation stage, at just 20 days before the prelims, I will be revising all those keys, especially the highlighted parts. So, in that sense, I think the magical number is very individual. But I would suggest at least six to seven tests should be given for the simple reason that you will realize what is your sweet spot of attempting questions. What is your accuracy levels? You realize that if I make educated.

Guesses, I am good at it. So, I should probably do that more. So, in that sense, it will help you a lot. Sir, what was the second question? The second question was, how many tests should one take at a minimum? And sometimes, students think, "Oh, let's just do it at home because it's very tiring to go and give the test and then come back and do the entire analysis which you talked about." Sir, going to a test center, with students standing in line, with your admit card in hand, ID proof in the other hand, sitting in the exam hall, waiting, and those terrible benches, which is a part of getting into UPSC. You will have that. The fan is not working, it's making some noise. Somebody else is doing this with their leg. It's irritating you. This is all part of the process. You have to get familiarized with this. I remember in my CSAT paper, somebody started crying behind me. And it was kind of, I remember once. I was giving an exam, and two of the invigilators. They were talking about their family problems, like what the father-in-law said. And all of that conversation was also happening. So, these are real challenges. But my experience was even worse. My first examination hall was for UPSC, right? So, literally, even the tension I wasn't feeling, they made up for that deficiency. Right? Guns are there. You are standing in line. Right? And you enter into the hall. Which will be like maybe five times bigger than this hall. Right? And then this big clock is there, right? And then everyone is waiting and then a big sound. Ding! Right? And the examination temperament, which was completely messed up in the first attempt. After that, I decided that I need a smaller center, it's better for me. Someone keeps shaking their leg, someone is crying behind, I'll quiet them down. But I need that. So, that's how it, you know, it, I had a different experience. So, these are the things that you have to get comfortable with. So, people will realize that sitting in the comfort of your home, you will always get higher marks, 10-15 marks will always be higher. You can pause the timer, you can go for a washroom break. You can't do these things in the real exam. So, have some exposure to the all-India test, the mock test. And also, one thing is that you have to get competitive here. It's a competitive exam. You have to be used to people competing with you, trying to get those one or two marks more. So, it will make a difference. So, if I had one mark more, I would be ranked. Yeah. So, it makes a lot of difference. So, you have to get used to acclimatize to these kinds of environments. I think giving tests in real time and real environment conditions is definitely better. Archit, we would want to take a few questions, probably from the audience. Right now, if you have any questions related specifically to Prelims? Because we have just touched upon Prelims exam taking strategy for Prelims. You may please put up your hands and then we will pass around the mic. If you have any questions about, if you are in that stage where you are thinking of quitting your job or how can I manage my preparation along with a job, if you have any questions, you may please put up your hands right now. Yes. Hello sir, congratulations first. Thank you. And as the UPSC syllabus is very vast, so we fail to revise it multiple times. So, what could be the most effective revision techniques that we can adopt in this preparation? We will take one more question and then we will come back to this. There is one more. Rahul. Hello sir. First of all, congratulations for your success. What would you suggest as a strategy for a 26-year-old attempt, means after completion of any specific subject? What strategy should be opted so that one can crack it in their first attempt? Okay. So, two questions primarily: revision and how do you go about after once you are done with the subject? So, firstly, answering that question on revision, you have to have a revision cycle going on while you are reading something new as well. So, the way I used to do it is, for example, I have read Polity. Now I am starting with Modern History. So, what I used to do is, while I spent half my day doing Modern History, a few hours at the end of the day would be just to revise what I read earlier. And this used to be like a weekly cycle. Once you are done with most, like keep doing this schedule, your timetable, make a proper, like date-wise revision plan. So, at the end of three-four months, when you are done with a large chunk of your syllabus, you will be done with a few subjects as well. So, that is when you start giving tests. So, before the test, revise the whole syllabus again, in short, whatever notes you have, whatever subject material, foundation class notes you have, and give the test. I think giving a test is one of the best ways to do revision. Because you will be forced to revise. Plus, you will be replicating it on paper also. So, it will go through your mind once again. And other than that, just keep having periodical revision cycles again and again. This revision in full force will happen when you are done with your reading material. When you have gone through the first readings. The second, third readings are basically revisions. That is the time when you start making these small A4 sheet notes for your Mains as well. You will be evaluating from your other different sources. You will be giving tests periodically between this June to like December. So, revision plans will harmoniously sync into this kind of class reading and preparation as well. Coming to the way to go about a 26-year-old attempt. I have this very firm belief that you should be absolutely prepared for your Mains exam before your Prelims exam. So, between June to December, what you should be doing, in my opinion, is preparing for Mains thoroughly. This includes your GS and your optional. Read all the material that you have, make those A4 sheet notes for each point in the Mains syllabus. And keep doing your optional also side by side. Once you are in, let's say, September-October. This is the time when I think you should start giving full-length tests of Mains. Three-hour tests in exam conditions. What this will do is, improve your answer writing, which you will be doing every day as well. I will talk about that later. But you will be improving on your answer writing. Plus, you will have the confidence that I am able to give three-hour papers for Mains. This helps when in December, you will have put aside your Mains and optional preparation and will be starting with your Prelims preparation. You will be full-time giving Prelims tests, you won't have much time to do your optional or maybe do answer writing for that matter. When you are doing that, in the middle of March, you get this anxiety that even if I clear Prelims, what will I do with Mains? This will help you because you know at the back of your mind that my Mains notes are ready, I have given three-hour tests, I am good with answer writing, and I just have to pick it up. And once your Prelims results come and you have qualified for Mains exam, you have around 80 to 85 days. This is not the time when you can start reading new things or start doing an optional paper. This is a time you start revising those short notes that you had made and just pick up that answer writing where you have left it from. So, this is the way I think you should go about your 26-year-old attempt. I have a question because you brought a very interesting point about how you go about revising the subject on the same day, and a lot of times we call that as the concept of active recall as well, through tests, etc. My question is, if someone is an absolute beginner, they are attending classes here, you were our student, what would be your preparation for the class? Class se pehle kya karte the? What you used to do? And then during the class, what would your focus be on? And after the class, what you used to do specifically with respect to that class? I think that will really help many of the students who are attending the classroom program here or anywhere else. Sir, the basic funda behind this is that my foundation classes and my own preparation, they are two different things. I don't match them necessarily. Like, if they are teaching Geography in class, I am paying full attention. This is my endeavor to get as much knowledge as I can from the class, so that I have to revise less. So, when I am in class, I am all ears. But when I am in the library, what, what I was revising before I came to class, I will continue with that. So, I have this whole different thing going on behind. With class, when this, for example, I am doing Geography in class, but behind, I am revising Polity. When the Geography revision period comes, I will just pick up these class notes and revise them. So, these two things, three things can go on side by side. Plus, you will be doing your optional also in the other half of the day. So, this kind of three things can be managed very well. And before sleeping, I used to do one hour of answer writing daily. From June to December, that is what I have done. Again, very early. That, very early. And in fact, I did not do the traditional, "wait, people say, write a good answer, structure that answer." I went into it, like, 10 minutes for a question, seven marks, seven minutes. 10 marks, seven minutes. So, I just went into that. Initially, I could not even complete the answer, but then I stopped the timer, then I completed the answer. Then I should check. And this is one of the exercises that I used to do that between June to this. I used to take topper copies. 47 minutes, two 10-markers, and three 15-markers. I used to transcribe these questions as is on blank sheets of paper. Write those answers in 47 minutes, and then see what they have done better. So, I have done a lot of picking and choosing from topper answer copies in terms of structuring the answer, answer writing, where diagrams could come, what committee recommendations, data, facts, whatever they are using, I just, a lot of your research work gets taken care of. They have done the hard work. Done the hard work. So, you were able to do this in your first attempt, or you were able to do this, you know, second attempt? Second attempt. So, when I came to Delhi, that is when I had time to do this. This is a very useful tip, sir, because we also keep telling the students the same thing, Archit, that topper answer copies are your best resource to understand what is being awarded exactly, right? So, how you get the rewards. So, this is very useful. Another question that I have is, now Prelims will be over on May 25th. After that, there is a period, and that's the period full of anxiety, right? For all the candidates. How did you manage that time between giving Prelims and waiting for that Prelims result? Because that's the worst thing to do. And then how did you manage your emotions at that time? Sir, firstly, I would like to say a few things from my experience. Do not go on Telegram. Don't join these insider groups. It is all nonsense. Okay? They know nothing. The result will come fast, and it will be on the UPSC website. That is when you can see your name in that. Don't get involved in these endless, mindless conversations that they have on Telegram. Maintain mental peace. Secondly, use two-three days to spend time with your family. You can go back home. Spend some time. This is the time that you will have because if you get your name in the Prelims result, you will have to start working very hard. You will have no time for your family, nothing. So, take a short break. De-stress yourself. You have been through a lot. It's a difficult process. Reward yourself with a break. Thirdly, wait for a while before you start matching with keys. I have seen that initially, the keys that come have a lot of mistakes. You will end up celebrating too early, which is the worst thing. Or you might end up feeling underconfident about your result. So, just maintain calm. Spend some time with family, take a break. Then, when good quality keys start coming up in the market, you can match your answer and your question paper. You have a fair bit of idea about how you are performing. Even if you are on the border, irrespective of whatever marks you are getting, if you intend to give another attempt, please start working on your Mains again because that is the period you have for your optional. So, don't waste time. But yeah, don't get involved in these insider conversations or these Telegram groups. They are the worst for your mental peace and stability. So, and that also brings me to the point of social media as well. Yeah, were you present on social media? Was there a temptation to go on social media at times? How did you stay away from that? So, I had an on-and-off relationship with Instagram because I used to install it, use it for a few days, and feel guilty that I am on this app for so long, and then uninstall it again. So, these kinds of on-and-off things used to keep going on. But WhatsApp texting with friends and these things, I was connected with everybody. But not very active on social media. But yeah, at the end of the day, just to relax a bit before I go to sleep or before I end the day, I used to be on Instagram, maybe watch something on YouTube. So, that is helpful. Right? It makes, because back here, we were talking about how your friend circle that you made here while you are preparing for the exam, helped you in multiple ways. Right? So, if you could just tell a bit to the audience about that. Sir, a big part of my success has been my peer group, undoubtedly. My flatmates, we have all been selected in the same year as well. So, it kind of speaks about the bond that we have and the preparation that went in. Other than that, I think one of the things that I would like to say is, if you are studying, you are in the library, please don't go out to make a friend group. You don't have to do that. If you are studying seriously, you will end up having friends who will come naturally to you. So, don't try to speak to somebody just because you think this person will help me or I will make a good peer group. Match people that, match your vibe, basically. Because I have seen a lot of study groups end up becoming discussion centers, and then you completely miss the point. So, best is self-study alone. And if you want to substantiate with discussions, because discussions help a lot in revising, when you are discussing some subject matter, before Prelims especially, have you read this fact? Do you know this? Who is the chairman of this committee? Which ministry does this body come under? These kinds of discussions help to reinforce your revision. Did it ever happen with you that you are doing this discussion, and at that point of time, you feel that the rest of the members of the peer group are more prepared than me, and then it leads to, like, "No, sir, I only give tension." Only give tension. You did never give tension. But jokes apart, sir, we were all studying the same sources, more or less. And whatever he didn't know or I didn't know, I used to, it's a good thing that "Oh, you told me. I'll read it." Like that. I was part of a peer group, and then I would feel in my first initial attempt that, "Yeah, I don't know anything." But yeah, emotionally, the peer group really helps. Sir, and especially when you are waiting for the result, that period is very full of anxiety. You are away from parents, especially also. So, your friend group will kind of help you. You will go out somewhere. Maybe go out for a dinner. So, these kinds of things will keep you involved in the preparation. Plus, like I said, sir, when you come back home from the library, you are read all day, you are bored. There is something weird going on, somebody is hitting somebody, there is running around going on in the house. These kinds of things kind of help you. You feel happy that you are here. So, there is a sudden wave of fun in that chaos. There is a student of mine, a brilliant student. Okay. But this attempt, the student will not be able to give because he became so over-involved with studying that he developed like a cervical-related pain or something. Even the best of the hospitals have not been able to diagnose how it is, and now he is not able to study continuously even for 15 minutes. Right? Brilliant candidate. You have followed meditation. You have talked about de-stressing. You have also, your optional is also Philosophy. Now you have been part of the IPS training, which has one of the best in the world, designed physical fitness regime. So, I think you are the right person who has the right combination of the physical and the psychological. So, many of the students, they go through this, right? Both kinds of scenarios. They are highly tensed but working hard, but then such kinds of things happen. So, if there is anything, any regime which the present candidates, they can follow, you know, while they are in Delhi or at home, to, you know, stay like average level fit, not to have such kinds of mishaps. Right? Sir, from my experience, and I made a lot of mistakes in this regard. When I was here preparing, I did not give much time to this physical development and exercise thing, which I genuinely should have done. Because when I left Delhi, I was around eight, nine, 10 kilos more than my weight. My stomach was coming out, and like, it just didn't feel good. And you have to feel good about yourself to be performing well in the interview. So, a lot of people do join the gym before the interview to cut down weight, look good, and feel confident. But speaking about people that are studying here currently, I feel like you can for sure take out at least 40 to 45 minutes out of your busy schedule. And there are a lot of parks around here, I have heard. And so, you can go take a walk. You can maybe try to go for a small jog. Yeah. Just keep yourself physically active and ensure that you come out, take a break between a few hours so that you don't put a lot of stress on your lower back. Also, if you are joining a library, please ensure your seats are good. They are the ones with lumbar support, and you have these kinds of amenities available. Focus a lot on your diet here because you will tend to eat a lot of things which are very unhealthy, oily. I mean, physical fitness is about 80% about diet and 20% is about exercising. So, ensure that you are eating good food, fat-free, less oily. It will help you study also because in the afternoon, you will be kind of sleepy. So, it ensures a good productive session.

As well. So, focus on your diet and ensure you take at least 40 to 45 minutes out of your schedule to take a walk or move around. Some bodily movement. Eating healthy is important. In Delhi, Chole Bhature is found to be very good. So, you have to stay away from it. I mean, on cheat days, it's okay, but right there, enough. Yes, sir. Okay, coming back to the awkward part of it. All the students, they read the same book, but it leads to different results for different persons. So, one is the structural part. For example, we have already talked about revision, making notes, and that. But how do you read a book? Like, do you go for, like, a first quick reading, and then in the second reading, you try to focus? Or while doing the first reading itself? Because language is a very potent barrier for many of the students. Language is new. Each subject has its own vocabulary. I do not know. I have just been the preparation. I do not know what is fiscal. Right? Or I do not know what is. Especially, this is a problem in ethics, right? Such new terms are there. So, those who are not from any philosophical background, they do not know what it is. Ontological. It's a very new word. And then I am reading this book. I read this page, but I just don't understand. Language barrier is there. Knowledge barrier is there. So, like, I am working hard, but like, how to go about it on that day? Like, if I am thinking about, like, that's that's one hour. Or, sir, the reading the book part, I used to have a first reading. I used to just read it in a linear fashion from first to end and try to understand what I am reading. Try to memorize as much as possible. In the second reading, I used to have a highlighter. I used to highlight whatever I felt was important from the UPSC perspective, based on the PYQs that I have seen, based on the questions that I am seeing, and what I feel genuinely is important. That part. In the third reading, I used to use a different color pen. In the fourth reading, a different color pen. So, at the end of the readings, I used to only read the part which is highlighted. For example, a fat book like Laxmikant, I can revise that book in three hours. I can do that because of the things that have been highlighted. Because many things are now just in my memory. I don't have to go over it again. So, that kind of, that is the way I went about reading a book. Coming to the part where you people are facing difficulties with respect to language and understanding the concept. I think, sir, ChatGPT, Google, these are wonderful avenues to get some clarity. I mean, if you put a prompt on ChatGPT like, "Explain to me what fiscal is in very plain terms." It will do that for you. I mean, it's one of the best resources out there right now. So, use AI to your benefit, and things will become easier, hopefully. So, any other ways, Jatin sir, you think that AI can be used? So, I think AI has ways in which it can be applied. Is that even if you want to get an initial feedback on the answers that you are writing, you could probably get some understanding. I also see this. I don't know whether this works or not. But if you have, a lot of time students come, "Sir, we are writing long answers." So, I suggest to them that you type your answer into ChatGPT or just upload the screenshot of that and ask ChatGPT to provide you a small, concise answer. That way, you will understand that, "Okay, how to make it shorter?" If you are not able to understand it by yourself, right? So, the prompt can be, "ChatGPT, do not miss out on any concept, any information. Purely on the basis of word count, reduce it to 150 words." I think that really helps. I will just take this opportunity again, sir. If we have any questions at this point of time from the audience, and then we will come back to Harshit again. Yes. One to AIR two, Harshita Goyal, and AIR three, Dongre Harshil Parag, have been common. 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So that, so that you don't get anxious in the paper. That you are able to fundamentally read all the questions. Go through the paper fluidly. If you have to, jump from one page to the other. So, that kind of flexibility and sense of awareness, you have to maintain in the paper. Right now, what's said is, read, revise the important parts, the important syllabus points. Especially subjects which are very scoring, like Polity. I think around 11 to 15 questions every year. And those are easy questions that you will be able to answer from Laxmikant. Like, they will ask you questions based on philosophical aspects of the Constitution. Like, "What is due process established by law?" What, like, these kinds of questions. So, these are very basic questions, and these are very scoring questions. Environment, national parks, geography, places in news. The scoring aspects of Prelims. Start revising these things now and get them done very well. And Economics, the most basic questions based on, like, "What is inflation? If I increase the repo rate, what will happen to inflation?" These kinds of basic, fundamental, factual questions. Ask to be good with them. You might also, alternatively, revise your current affairs. Whatever notes you have, just go over them. Have the basic idea of the static topics behind them. Revise that aspect as well. And just, maybe for one or two hours in a day, you can practice CSAT if you are not good at it. But that depends on your personal choice. Sir, also, since you mentioned the kind of questions, there are a set of expected questions, and then there are very random, unexpected questions that you are just not ready for. Maybe something that you have not heard of, or you are just not simply expecting, even out of Polity, scoring subjects like that. So, how do we go about it if the quantity of those questions is higher in the bill? I mean, like I said, if you have some partial knowledge, if you are 50 to 60% able to decide that, "Okay, this can be the answer." I am kind of positive, an inner gut feeling is coming, or your knowledge base kind of indicates that this is the answer. I would say, just go for it. If it is completely random, it will be random for everybody. Because, see, whatever you are studying is what everybody else is studying. There is no aspirant who is doing something other than what everybody else is doing. Right? Your sources and more or less whatever your preparation is going to be the same. So, if you have a question which is random, you have no idea about, just leave it. Don't do a blind attempt. That's what I would say. Best, in my opinion, is this. On the same line, don't lose what you have earned so far. Right? Don't lose it. Right? I mean, don't try to capture those types of questions which are very unique by using any new source or anything new. In the process of doing that, if you forget something from the hard work that we have done for the whole year, two years, you will feel very bad. "Oh, this was even in my notes, but I was not able to answer it." That tough question will be wrong, right? That will be wrong for many people. But the one that was in your notes, that you wrote somewhere, sometime. That's why I see that he is very, giving like, very sound advice. Capitalize on what you already have through revisions, right? And try to see the static in the current and current in the static, very well. Put, sir, there is a question from a student there. There, behind, once. Then we will come to you. Yes, please. Please kindly stand up in your seat and ask your question. Pass the mic over there as well. Yes, sir. Congratulations for your achievement. And sir, I have a question that when we attempt for UPSC, we have a lot of materials out there in the market. How to choose the right material? And should we go for the limited sources? Should we go for the variant ones? Or should we stick to the only one we have? I would definitely say, go for limited sources. Because, see, books will keep coming here and here. There will be new material being added every day. Right? You cannot do that much. Whatever fundamental foundation class notes, for example, that is your base. That will give foundation knowledge. Right? On top of that, one source book is necessary for each subject. I think more than that is not required. Because you will be substantiating these things with your current affairs as well. So, a lot of concepts will get revised here and there. You will have a detailed source book for your extra knowledge, and fundamental concepts and clarity will come from your foundation class notes. So, otherwise, I don't think more than three things should be used for a subject. It will be too much to do and too much to revise. And you might not end up remembering most of it. So, keep limited sources, practice more, and capitalize more on, like, using, applying that knowledge. That will be more helpful. I think, Archi, if I may add to that question, current affairs is a big pain point for most of the candidates. What was your approach towards current affairs? You could just explain that in brief for us. Sir, I tried to read the newspaper every day. Some days I could not read it. But I tried to be regular with it from June till, like, the Prelims time. That was my thing. Newspaper? One newspaper, The Indian Express. The whole newspaper or only the editorial? How did you decide that what is right, what is not, what to ignore, what to read? Sir, like, the UPSC syllabus points, we have a general idea about what is good, relevant for the UPSC paper. Like, if something about development schemes or something that becomes relevant. But it's about some political factions fighting. That is not very relevant. You will get that sense of idea when you start reading the newspaper and reading the subject material we have. Other than that, sir, I think special emphasis should be put on the explained pages. Those are very helpful, actually. And stick to something. You have just one source for current affairs and the newspaper. And don't put too much emphasis on current affairs. Because if you see the PYQs, I hardly find any current affairs question. Maybe two or three questions that come every year. But something might be going on in the current affairs, but it might be happening back to your static part. Yeah. So, they use that as a prompt to ask a question. Exactly. And both in Prelims and Mains as well. So, I think that is the right, that's very useful. I mean, see, whatever material they have made has to be from some sources as well. They must have picked and chosen from different sources to make it concise. You can choose individually what you feel is the best. For example, I find Laxmikant very comforting. I find it because in my second attempt, I studied Laxmikant. I could solve a lot of questions from that book. So, I have belief in that book. Books. So, I read only Laxmikant for Polity and my class notes for the judgments. And that, those class notes are very helpful in Mains, especially for me. But for Prelims, I think Laxmikant is a very good book. You can stick to it. So, it depends on your individual choice. There is no one way to do it. Because the content is the same in both books, right? I would suggest, like, just stick to one. Whatever you choose, start with your source. Maybe take a standard book, for example. Whatever you don't understand in that book, you can refer to a different source to get clarity on that subject. This is something you can do. I just, whatever I felt was the best book for me, I chose that. I did not have any criteria. So, I can't tell you that this book is better or that book is better. No, we don't have to blindly rely on anything. We should, we should trust and we should verify. Right? But we should trust, but we should verify. Right? Point number one, like, for example, at Vision IAS or any coaching institute, the intent is not just this thing that because someone is a coaching institute, right? At least for reputed coaching institutes, that just because we are a coaching institute, therefore, we should have a material for it. There is no such intent. The intent is how to help the student, right? That is, if there are three good sources, can we assist the students in compiling it into one somehow? That intent is there. Step number one. Second is, well, verification. If you believe in this, verification is nothing. It's very simple. Whatever is a very famous book, take one chapter from it. You say, like, your classes are also going on. Let's say a chapter is completed in the classes. No problem. Get that chapter from your friend, from Vision's material, or from whichever coaching institute you are from. Right? Read one chapter from there. Read one chapter from here. Wherever you understand better, that is the best source for you. For example, I have read Laxmikant many times, but I could never, for example, understand Supreme Court, and I could not understand Supreme Court judgments from it. So, for me, that place is DD Basu. Which for Harshit is the place of Laxmikant. So, I understood from that. So, everyone is different. Every candidate is different. You have to find where you sync. Because there is a language issue, right? Someone explained something in one way, and you understood it very well. But the same thing explained by someone else, you don't know, it doesn't sync. You have to find your sync. Right? So, this is the best way, in my opinion. You verify, and wherever you feel it, go for it. Right? Thank you so much, Himanshu sir, for explaining that really beautifully. That's very important because there is a lot of confusion, right? That which source to refer to. I think that Harshit, I have a question for you. And this is very pertinently linked to you. I have seen many candidates in the past. Once they get a rank, after that, breaching that rank barrier becomes very difficult. You at times get stuck in that range of 100, 150 to 100, because you don't even know exactly what is going wrong. You didn't do anything terribly wrong last time. But there is something that you did much better this time. Yeah. So, how did you work on that? Because once you have achieved success, you know basics what works. But what was the difference in 153 and three? What really changed that, in your opinion? Sir, to prove problem approach here. Firstly, I wanted to maintain the subjects where I had good marks, and I wanted to drastically improve on the subjects where I had marks, marks, or low. So, what changed drastically in this attempt was, I did answer writing like anything. Like, every day I was writing around 10 answers, getting it checked from three people, my flatmates only, and writing tests. So, because, sir, once you get a rank, you know that your subject material and direction has been right. Now, it's the game of getting that edge. Every question, if I get one-one mark more than others, I get 20 marks more in a paper. So, that kind of approach helped me a lot. So, from GS Three, I revised economy handouts, whatever I had, the data, facts, diagrams, budget, economic survey. I made a compilation of all these things from the handouts also. I had, I had, and I took it from 89 to 108. So, this is a stupendous achievement. Because considering the marks that people have got in GS Three, I am, I am sorry to interrupt you here. If you can just explain a bit more about GS Paper Three, because many candidates this year also scored low. GS scores in the 80s, marks came in the 80s. Even the 86. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Very good. Sir, GS Three, my, my paper is also online. You can see it. I played a lot on data, facts, graphs. Like, I had this feeling that maybe last time I did not get good marks because my paper felt like a GS paper and not like an economics paper. It has to have that shade of economics in it. It has to be slightly technical, analytical. I studied a lot of examples. I had examples for almost everything. AI and agriculture, I was writing M-Kisan like examples after every point. I changed the structure of my answer. Earlier, I used to write a point, I used to have a keyword in the middle, I should underline it. This time, I changed it to, I write a point, I write the keyword first, and then I write my sentence. Just visually appealing to the examiner. Because I had that, "I need five marks more." I took it to the edge. So, diagrams everywhere, graphs. Population question comes, I draw that graph of India from 1950, how the population boom happened. And practiced it. Kept a notebook maintained with data, facts, and statistics. It was a notebook I had. And like, I just generally realized that if I talk about something without a data fact, it feels like I am talking in the air. I say that India is significant milk production, but I say it's 24% of global milk production. It gives a different, feel to the answer. It makes it more substantial, adds credibility to the answers. So, I played on these things.

This time and I think it kind of worked. What kind of sources can and the candidates refer to in order to make this little list of compilation of numbers and stats? If you can just help them with, sir, ChatGPT? ChatGPT is good enough. Whenever I feel like it, I'll go to Google and see, sir. Sir, I genuinely like using NITI Aayog for a lot of these things. For example, India at 1775, these documents are good. #hashtag AI for All National AI Policy. So I use these answers. The EU's data protection act that came, graded risk, risk-based assessment. So use these words. Dropping terms is very important. I think in GST, it has to look as if you have gone through a lot of material. So I have another question. You said that I went back. I figured out these are the subjects in which I have not done well. I tried to understand that I have to pick up each number. Did you change the sources in this? Did you change any of the books or any of the sources, or did you add something in your lab in the third attempt? Sir, the sources were just the same. Okay? Just the current affairs, whatever our Mains 365 and other handouts that are relevant for this year, obviously, we have to read that. Other than that, sir, 85% is just answer writing, structuring, and delivering the content of the paper because the knowledge in my head is not enough. It has to be shown on paper. That is, at the end of the day, it has to go to the examiner. And that was what my endeavor was. So I think that really brings the point out again that you don't need to change your sources attempt after attempt as well. All that is required is a change in your approach, a change in understanding what lagged in the last attempt. It's not necessary that you have to read more books because this exam unfortunately ends up becoming a knowledge accumulation exercise as well because you are enjoying reading so much new material that you tend to only accumulate. So understanding what is lacking, knowledge accumulation, sir, knowledge is in a good book, it's decently there. That is language acquisition. Knowledge acquisition, if you read properly, then in that book, there are two good books. I think good enough. Was there any improvement and any change in strategy that you brought about in Paper Four, Ethics? Sir, so GS Two and GS Four were good. Last time I had 123 and 127, sorry, 122 and 127. This time I got 123 and 126. The total remained the same in both. Because I used the same sources and my strategy was good. Like in GS Two, I use a lot of judgments, articles, committees. Like my answers will be full of them. So that is, I think, what works in GS Two. And for Ethics, sir, I included a bit more philosophical concepts this time. The marks are the same, but I think that kind of maintains that level of quality in the paper. Case studies, I write as many as possible, as many situations as possible. I write everything in it. If any innovative examples are coming that I have read in current affairs. Feel free to use GS knowledge here and there fluidly throughout papers. It is absolutely allowed and it does not, in my opinion, give any negative impression. For example, philosophical concepts can be used in Ethics, GS Two, but it has to be extremely relevant. It has to fit there. Otherwise, it looks out of place. But you can use knowledge across papers? There is no limit to that. Did you feel more confident this time in terms of your preparation? Or was it, that doubt always remains? Sir, there is always tension before the exam. But at the back of our mind, a support system was built at the base level, so I was like, I will give this attempt. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. That kind of confidence, that kind of fearlessness was there. So I think that helps. Which just goes on to show what role confidence and self-belief play in preparation. So if somebody can replicate it without necessarily having that backup, you will still do better in the paper. You just need to have that confidence in you. So, yeah, fair enough, that's a very important point. One more thing, you talked about answer writing. You started very early. For those, let's say, someone who has joined a foundation program right now, when they are preparing, let's say for 2026, and they have joined the foundation program in May. Right? When should they ideally start looking at doing any little bit of answer writing? What you recommended, June, or should they wait for a bit of knowledge to accumulate, and then start? But what should be the approach? Sir, when you have done with a small portion of the syllabus, like, for example, here in class, one class happens, you get assignment questions. Right? Start with that itself. Once you are done with, like, let's say, 5-10% even of the syllabus, that subject's topic, point, like it. Do the PYQs. Just write it down. You can write the same question again also, just to see the improvement. But my point is, do it. Like, people don't start answer writing. There is a big inertia. You will never ever be done with the syllabus. You will never be ready, or you will never be feeling as if you are ready. That will never happen. So just start. The sooner you start, the better you will get. That is what I think. That's a very important point because there is a writer's block, right? In the same way, there is an inertia in candidates also. They don't write. Yes, sir. They keep reading. They keep accumulating knowledge very well. They have read a lot, understood everything. But you don't know how to express it in that limited amount of time. It's. And I think why, when you start doing daily answer writing, the focus should be that now I want to do answer writing and graduate to giving tests. Those three-hour tests are the main deal. You have to do that. So when you go to that level and you start giving tests, you will kind of get interested in the preparation, to see improvement in marks daily. You want to see improvement in marks in tests. It will kind of become your obsession. You will be interested. You will be involved in the preparation. So when, when do you start giving tests? When do you think that's a good time to? Sir, I think to give tests, the minimum amount of subject knowledge that you have will come around September-October, given that you study well, 4 to 6 months, both in GS and optional. So you will be done with around 1/4 of the syllabus in some subjects. So you can give a paper on that, like just an Economics three-hour paper, like that. So you can start with that. So, but the point is, the point is not to deliver content, it's to start writing the paper so that you get used to the habit of writing a three-hour test and structuring your answers, delivering the content that you have studied. Is it actually coming down on paper? So these things you will have to start very early on, like September-October, at least I think you should start giving tests. You will have that fair bit of knowledge by then. Right now, I have one more question related to Mains and that gap between Mains and the results, again, again, that same anxiety. So what do you do in that period? Because I have seen most candidates end up wasting maximum time after Mains because Mains is very grueling. Yeah. So after that, what was your strategy in this attempt and in the last one as well? Sir, in this attempt, there was no time to waste. It happens because the result was there. I knew I had to give an attempt. Completely sure that Prelims will clear because, as I said, I had confidence. So in the second attempt, I cleared Prelims by five-six marks. This time, by 15 marks. So I mean, I meant more about after Mains. Okay. The period after Mains, when you are waiting for the interview result. That's a long period. Yes, yes. Sir, I think in that period, one should take a break. Genuinely take a break. Because if you start studying for the next attempt, you will burn out by halfway down the mark, right? So take a break, maybe 15-20 days, relax. Then, depending on how you feel about the paper, start preparing for the interview for a few hours a day, and the rest of the time, please give for Prelims. That is what I would say. But because, sir, these days, I think the interview is starting very early on. Sometimes it starts in the first week of January also. So be sure that you are revising your DEF, you are ready with the subject material, at least collect the material so that when, if you have a very early interview, you are able to go through the material. But, yeah, keep a few hours of the day for Prelims as well, just revise your subject material. And sometimes people tell me that I feel my optional paper was not good this time. So you know what you did wrong? So start doing optional well. Like you have such a time to correct. Of course. So you did extremely well in the interview, both the times. Himanshu sir, I will come to you also with that question. You have done extremely well in the interview. When you appeared, you scored 200+ marks. What went into interview preparation, and again, is it something that can be done in like two months? I will improve my personality to be able to showcase to the board, or is it an ongoing process? And what did you do in between? Both the questions. Sir, firstly, interview preparation is hectic. If you go into it, there is a lot of things to be studied. Meaning, if you can start with your school, then behind your school, is there a name of some freedom fighter? So you will read about him. It will take days to do one topic. So the thing, so the way to go about interview preparation is that I prepared each thing in my DEF very well. I had documents on my iPad for every subject point in the DEF. Optional, you have to be very good with it. So the thing is that, sir, because my optional is of genuine interest, I can have a conversation on philosophy, and this happened both times. And I feel like discussions on philosophy are very enriching for both parties. So that kind of conversation, a cordial board is always conducive for good marks. Other than that, sir, I think giving a lot of mock interviews helps. Like you mentioned, can personality be built in two months? Honestly, it is not possible. A lot of your background, a lot of your history, what you have been doing all this time will matter. But in two months, you will be watching videos of, let's say, people who are good speakers, like Dr. Jaishankar, how he speaks, how he puts across his points. Things you will realize when you watch a lot of videos. And sir, when I think that when the time comes to give the interview, you will be around so many people, you naturally start becoming a good speaker and like good at presenting your points. You will give a lot of mocks, will practice, you will get feedback, you will see your own video, they will send you your own video, you will be able to see, okay, maybe this is not the way to present this point. So it will happen. It will happen, sir. Somebody who practices it will definitely work. Himanshu sir, in your opinion, you have been in the services as well, and you have done so well in the interview, you have guided so many students. In your opinion, what exactly are the basic things that any candidate should work on in the interview, apart from what he said, DEF? Are there some basic personality traits which you can specifically focus on, not just at that point of time, but throughout your journey of preparation, as Arjit talked about? So the biggest shocker came to me when I faced my first interview, meaning when I cleared my first Mains, after that, when I started preparing my DEF, I realized that the syllabus of the interview is actually the largest. Because, as Arjit said, we have to prepare our Mains also, and plus there is so much more because so many questions can be created from every smallest of things. So, fine. In my second interview, from day one, what I started doing, if I am doing current affairs, if I am doing anything which is related to my DEF, because now I have filled it. So therefore, I would have some folders on my computer. I will simply put the article into that. For example, if I was a civil engineer, so anything that comes in civil engineering, any at world level or at India level. So I will put it there. So therefore, this time when I, when the call came for the second interview, I had my own syllabus. So a very unique thing is that coaching institutes and others, they do provide you syllabus and content for it for up till Mains. But with respect to interview, each personality is unique, each life is unique. Its syllabus, you can craft it yourself such that from the first day, whatever is related to you is coming in current affairs, just store it, even without reading. So you will have your own data set. One is at the cognitive level, so that was there. And second, at the psychological and emotional level, it was like, Bhagavad Gita, "Karm kar, phal ki ichha mat." In my second interview, I deliberately tried to train myself, meditate that I do not, you know, I don't want to care whether I will get into it or not. I just want to answer whatever the question is. And when I was in my first interview, my ears were red, I could feel the heat. Okay. In my second interview, with that training, with that meditation, etc., I was just myself. Right? And fine, we had a very good discussion with the board. So one thing I feel that if our interview is in a discussion format, that is a good interview. Those candidates who say that we answered all the questions correctly, that means because it is a discussion that you are able to assess the personality traits of that person. So that brings me to a question, Arjit. We were talking earlier. You said that some questions, I didn't know the answers to in the interview. Right? So did that play on your mind in the interview? And secondly, what was the preparation for questions like that, which you knew would come up in the interview, for which you would not know the answer? So how do you tackle that kind of a situation in the hall? Sir, with all the experience from the mock interviews, I think the best way to deal with them is to be honest. You don't know, you don't know. Don't venture out to say something you don't know because they pick it up and then they start grilling you. So just, I am not aware. I will read about it. Just have a positive attitude because you will eventually end up going home and reading about it because you will be curious, what was asked? Like, why didn't I know this? That is one aspect. Just be very honest in the interview. Sir, other than that, like what sir said, the discussion format is a very helpful way to gauge that the interview is going well. Because imagine, I am asking somebody questions, they are answering. You are putting yourself up for more questions. If it's a conversational interview, you are kind of leading the conversation. You have the scope to manage what is being asked, what is not being asked, even for a temporary period of time. So, I think what he said is really true for the interview. Did you feel nervous at any point of time during any of the interviews? Sir, the first interview that I gave, mock interview, I was horrible. Meaning, I was not even able to smile, not able to present my points. I was stuttering. So these things have happened. Like I was anxious, completely anxious. But that's the thing that I developed later on, is like I thought to myself that I am going to go in, whether they like me, they like me, they don't like me, they don't like me. That kind of eased me, that I have to be myself. Few things that I kept in mind always, that always have a balanced opinion, which you should have in general. Be aware of the things in your DEF. You have written them, it is about you. If you don't know them, it kind of paints a bad picture. That, and just be confident. Confident and calm. That's, that's what. And and did you worry too much about which board you will get, not get? Because when you are sitting there in that waiting hall, there is a lot of conversation. Always, sir, I tell you, you, you, you, you, you, you, an interesting story. Like I was, so what happens is, you sit in that hall and somebody comes to take you to the interview room. So generally, that person is asked, whose board is it? Let me know. So last time, I was sure that I will not ask because I don't want to have any preconceived notions in my mind because voluntarily or involuntarily, you end up hearing something or the other about some boards. So, he was taking me and I was sitting on the. He just looking at me. He is smiling. He is anticipating that I ask him something. But I didn't. So, it was kind of funny, but yeah. I don't have any ideas about any board. I just want to go there and present myself. So there is no research required to be done on the boards that are interviewing. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, to research my interview. It's not about them. So, yeah, very important point. I think because this happens a lot, that people tend to overanalyze and have preconceived notions, as you said, and then this thing. So this is, I think, was, was there anything in particular that you worked on after that, let's say, first fiasco that happened in the interview? What specifically did you do after that? Apart from the fact that you relieved your mind of that stress, that okay, whether they like me or not, it's okay. But what exactly did you do after that? Sir, confidence is one thing, it should not be baseless. I went and I prepared what I actually didn't know. You have confidence comes from the fact that I know what I will be talking about. I have to be aware of my subject material, my DEF. So I prepared really thoroughly for it. And I was prepared. Like I used to ask my father to ask me questions. Like, ask me questions on the state. What is going on? I used to, in fact, in my flat, we replicated a board. So that was a very good exercise because these are the people I know, I have fun with. I am very informal with. Now I have to be in front of them and be formal. That is an exercise in itself. And you understand the mindset of the interviewer, yes, as well as you sitting on the other side. So we had different, you know, external friends come in as panel members. I didn't know a few people on the panel. The chairman, I knew very well. We shared the same room. So it was kind of a different experience. But these kinds of, so the test-giving exercise is also part of that. Go sit with a lot of unknown people. That's how you will get over it. That's the way to do it. Will we, we will take an opportunity to just ask for questions from the audience and then. Yes. You have already, there, please. Here, please. Is there only one question? Everyone has to ask now. Please speak. Kindly stand on your beat.

And then ask your question. Yes, Rahul, please pass a microphone here as well, to the front. Sir, firstly, I would like to congratulate you for your success. And the question is, sir, I would like to ask, how was your schedule, a day's schedule as a full-time aspirant? How did you used to manage your optional with GS and current affairs and the CSAT preparation? As we come, I personally come from a non-technical background, being a humanities student. So, how did you use to manage it?

Uh, so, uh, in terms of managing the time for GS and optional. So, the initial period from June to December, uh, I put a lot of emphasis early on in completing my optional. So, 60-40, you used to be for optional and GS. Okay? So, when I'm almost done with my optional syllabus, I would start with GS, I would give it more time. 70-30 for optional, GS, uh, GS and optional. So, this is how you basically divide your day into halves. First half of the day for GS, second half of the day for your optional. Uh, CSAT, if you want to practice, keep it at the end of the day with your answer writing. Maybe do answer writing a little bit earlier and practice CSAT for one hour at the end of the day. I did not practice CSAT throughout the preparation, but only during the prelims time because it was not that much of a problem for me, and that I knew because I had solved previous year question papers. So, do that exercise and you will know if you have to practice it every day. But other than that, just divide your day into slots. So, first half of the day for optional, maybe after lunch because you are feeling sleepy, do your current affairs or newspaper reading, and then the other half of the day when you are again active, from four to like night, whatever time you close your day, for GS. And one hour for answer writing, which you should definitely incorporate. Yes.

Please pass it behind as well. Yes. First of all, congratulations, sir. Thank you. As you scored more than 60% marks in your optional paper, how would you prepare your optional paper? Like, strategies, sources, and important golden rules? Because I am thinking of that, you are optional, I am thinking of, inspired by you and thinking of philosophy. No, sir, I am also interested in that. Okay. So, see, I think one of the major, uh, role played was by my mentor. You need to have some guidance on the way you are writing answers. Because, see, I am also from a non, uh, technical, I am from a technical background. I have no experience in philosophy. So, I have no benchmark that a philosophy answer should look like this. That is for somebody else to tell you that. Okay? So, the role of a mentor is very important. Uh, secondly, the way to go about your optional is that I relied on in-depth notes. You can choose whatever source you want. Stick to that source and definitely go through topper copies because it is kind of obvious that we don't know what philosophy answers are good. Which answers are good. So, toppers who got good marks, you can look at their answers and see. I will tell you what my observation was. It's like, if there is a question on a particular philosopher, for example, Plato and the Theory of Forms, you should put all the aspects of that philosophy and that theory into your answer in a short, crisp manner. There should be no feeling left that, "Oh, he didn't deliver everything." So, that kind of thing, you will realize when you see the topper copies that these are the things that, that, that, that, that, that, that to take care of. So, I think get your sources in order. If you need, if you think you need mentorship, please go for mentorship and join a test series, which is very important. So, you have to practice a lot of answer writing. Maybe from there, you will, when you get feedback on your answers, you will know that I am on the right direction or not, and accordingly, you can change your sources. Okay? That is the way.

Hello, Archit, sir. Hello. I am Kushagra, and first of all, a huge congratulations to you for getting this rank. Sir, in the discussions happening now, you mentioned that in the 2024 attempt, your entire focus was on how to get that extra one or two marks. So, sir, my question to you is, what were your resources for value addition? And sir, one follow-up question is that you mentioned that you focused a lot on quoting NITI Aayog reports and India at 75 reports. But sir, those were very bulky documents. So, how did you effectively utilize those in your answers? I wanted to know that.

NITI Aayog and Budget and Economic Survey, sir, I think most coaching institutes will give you a short summary. So, from that, remove your relevant points. Like, for example, for Mains, there is one A4 sheet that I maintained for each topic of the Mains paper. So, in that, I had kept value addition. I improved it with different sources, like the notes and handouts that coaching institutes provide, plus the answer writing that I did with topper copies, which I continued even during this Mains preparation. I didn't just do it from June. That has been my number one exercise that I do for answer writing improvement. So, I took out the data from the 2023 toppers. I took what diagrams they made. AIR 2's paper in 2023 is very good for seeing how he writes his answers, meaning very good use of flowcharts, diagrams. You can incorporate those things. So, that is how you will get that edge of one-one mark more. So, don't, I am not necessarily saying that you should focus on sources. You can go on Google also. You will find knowledge and data everywhere. You can use ChatGPT for that matter, if you want data on specific things. Just fact-check it later. But, look at how answers are being written. Like, there are so many ways of writing an answer, making it appealing to the examiner. Basically, force him to give you marks. That is what I am saying. Also, Archit, I mean, AI was being discussed, right? So, right now, this is the input for all of you. You can even use the reports uploaded to ChatGPT, whichever Gemini, Perplexity, whatever you are using. And if you ask the right question from AI, like, "Give me these five statistics from this report on India's agriculture, on India's healthcare, on India's education," it will give you those. You can go on Publicly, put it on Deep Research, and ask it to only use government sources. Your work will be lesser. So, I think ChatGPT and AI have made this aspect of preparation very easy for all of you. You need to know how to use it in the right manner. With a little bit of experimentation, many of you can learn and understand how to use it better. Yes, a few more questions I have. Yes, please.

Hello, sir. Hello, sir. Everyone of us is aware of the importance of PYQs. But what was your approach to analyzing the PYQs, especially in Prelims? As for me, after a few readings of PYQs in Prelims, as we are aware of the answers, it seems irrelevant and repetitive. So, will you explain your approach to analyzing the PYQs of Prelims and what should be the extent, like how many years we should go for that, either 10 years or 12 years? So, please hear your.

See, I did PYQs from 2013 till the present date, up to the last year's paper. Okay? Because the pattern has changed for Prelims. Okay? That is my approach. So, from 2013 to 2023 for you, uh, the relevance of PYQs is not because the question will be repeated as is, that will probably not happen. The relevance is because you will realize what are the important areas that you have to focus more on. For example, I have seen this play by Vijay Tendulkar, sir, that question has been repeated so many times in UPSC. What does that tell you? That tells you that plays, literature, sources in the modern history era are important. They ask you so many books. Like, Baba Balwantr's book was asked about, sir. So, these are the, you know, the dimensions that they are asking. So, literature sources, revolutionary movements in modern, modern history, these are important. This is what you will know when you analyze PYQs multiple times. Also, please go through the options. Uh, options can also be a basis for questions. Why I am saying this is because, since UPSC has asked this option, they know about it. It is in their cognizance. So, they can probably frame a question on this. So, do your best to predict the paper. You will not be able to know exactly what will, what is being asked. But this is what you can do to the maximum limit. Uh, other than that, it's also a good resource. Now, you can practice giving a paper. You will be familiar with the language that UPSC uses. For example, maybe you find a trend in the language where they put a difficult question or make a wrong statement. Somehow, you get the essence, you get a gut feeling when you go over those questions again and again. This will definitely be to your advantage. So, not because the questions will repeat, but because for you to get familiar with the important areas that UPSC is asking about. That is the relevance of PYQs.

Very important point that you mentioned, Archit. I have often seen that once there is a wrong option in a question, two to three years later, they make a question based on that same wrong option. Absolutely, sir. So, right. Repetition, it happens in that sense, but not as a Xerox copy. So, yeah. Right.

Yes. Any more questions? Yes.

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Sir, what was your schedule in between the phase of Prelims and Mains? What was your daily schedule like? And I would like your recommendation if a candidate has passed Prelims but has not done much answer writing before Prelims. So, what would be his approach in between?

Okay. So, for Prelims and Mains, in between the time, again, I divided my day into GS and optional. Okay? At the end of every day, I used to give around two hours for answer writing. Because now it's about answer writing and structuring. One hour, I used to write without topper copies, and one hour I used to write a mini test or something. Basically, my hand should run, and the pen should be on the paper. That is why. And for two hours. Every Sunday, alternatively on a weekend, you can give a paper. You have to give a paper. A three-hour paper of Mains. That can be, uh, based on a test series. So, that's why I suggest you to join a test series between Prelims and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and Mains will be very beneficial because they will have a timetable. Uh, and accordingly, you can also structure your study schedule. Because if there is an Economics test, then you will start studying Economics three-four days before. So, that will kind of keep you in discipline also and will ensure that you are delivering the content. Revisions will happen accordingly. So, join a test series, uh, for both optional and your GS. Uh, divide your day for GS and optional revisions. And obviously, because you have done things from June to December, everything will be ready. Your revision material will be ready. It will be short and concise. So, revisions will also happen faster. So, that is how I would suggest to that thing. I am asking that if one has not done that answer writing in between June and December, that two-hour of daily answer writing is your way to get back on track. And when should we stop it before the real exam? Like, the exam is on 30th May, okay? So, how much time before should we stop, stop the answer writing? This year, I have given a Mains paper one day before my exam, before Mains paper, because I wanted to have that confidence in my mind that I have written one paper for GS 1, 2, 3, 4. It is an exercise of confidence. When you want to stop is when you are confident that you can do well. Thank you. Any other questions? Yes. We will take the last, last few questions, and then we will wrap this up.

First of all, thank you so much for such an insightful discussion. And congratulations on your huge success. My question is, I am a college student and I will be starting my preparation after two months. So, what is the first step, according to you, we should take to start, like, before coaching, should we do something to prepare? Like, basic NCERT reading and all, or online or offline, which would you suggest?

See, because you have, you have an advantage. You have two months. Uh, I would suggest that start reading a newspaper first of all. Get aware of the current affairs. Just put, get into the habit of reading. Secondly, please focus this time. Use this time to decide your optional subject. So, you are very clear. It will not take much time for you to decide which class to go for, if you choose to go for a class. What resources to follow, etcetera. Have, basically, this is a time for you to plan well. Plan well now so that you don't falter later. Okay? This is a very good period for you. Uh, other than that, I think for me, I feel like online would be a better option. I personally enjoy sitting in offline classes, but if you want to be efficient, you want to save time, because, see, online, there are benefits. You can put it at 2x. You don't have to spend time commuting to class and back. You might not end up wasting time after class with your friends. So, these things will help you. But it's totally an individual decision. If you are able to maintain discipline, commute fast, sit in class, grasp better, then I would suggest come to class. If you are, basically, it depends on the output. If sitting in class, you understand better and you can deliver better, then nothing like it. And definitely, it's upon individual preference. And sir, how to maintain the consistency for three to four years? Like, I have four years left in my first attempt. So, how to maintain that? I enjoy your college days then. Yes, just like, why I thought you had two months to graduate? No, in second year. Okay. Then enjoy college. Forget about it. Yes, that time, college time will not come back. So, you should enjoy that time as well. Right.

Archit, one question for you. You qualified in your third attempt, got AIR 3. It could have been possible in the first attempt as well, because the ability was always there. If you had to go back and tell yourself, maybe one or two things to change in your younger self, what would they be? That I have to tell the Archit of two years ago, "Don't do this, or do this." What would those two-three things be?

Sir, to be honest, actually nothing. Because this AIR 3 is a compounded version of that. So, I was doing everything right in the first attempt as well. It was just that I did not have the time or maybe the energy levels. I feel I should have gone to the gym a little less. I spent two hours in the gym. That is one thing I would have changed. But yeah, more or less, sir, the effort that I have put in the first attempt still helped me till the third attempt. Meaning, the way I read Laxmikant over and over again in the first attempt, Spectrum in that first attempt, I remembered that throughout. Before the exam, I did not even have to revise these books at times because it was so clear to me. So, it's a compounded effort over the years, patience and perseverance, and that incremental improvement. The essence of this exam, basically, which is very, very crucial.

Any other question that we have from the? Yes, please. You asked a question here. Ask one more. You asked two. Ask first. Congratulations, sir. So, my question is, like, as you are sharing about your journey, you said that maybe it seems that you have prepared before joining coaching also, and you became one attempt, am I right? Yes. So, can you share your timeline, like, along with your courses? Like, how you started your preparation, maybe with your job, or like, I ordered the standard books because I Googled, "What are the books for UPSC?" Laxmikant, Spectrum, NCERTs. These came. I went to Amazon. There is a seller who bulk sends you all these books, all UPSC in 3000 bucks or something. He sent me those books. I picked up one book, started on my table, like I said, from 4:30 to 10, and then whatever time was left, I read these books. I read these books multiple times, made no notes of them or anything, just understood the concepts. After them, on 5th May, I resigned, and 5th June was Prelims. So, that one month, I spent revising these books all over again. I had read through all these books. First, one or two readings were done. Mocks, I could not give at all in the first attempt. Sir, my mock scores were around 65-70 marks only. So, this time, like when I gave mocks this year, it was always above 100. Yeah. So, that kind of improvement happens after you revise multiple times. So, that is one thing. So, basically, it gave me a familiarity of the subjects. NCERTs I had gone through, and then I came and joined the foundation course. So, it kind of supplemented my knowledge. It gave me an, an, an, an, an, an, an, an advantage, definitely. Yeah. So, you gave your first attempt in 2022? Sorry. 2022. 2022. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

Archit, one more thing. From this, I think many people are very interested in the schedule. They are intrigued. So, this is also a story and a question as well to you. One of our students, he got selected a few years back, got a top 50 rank. A newspaper reporter went to him. He asked, "Sir, how many hours did you study?" He said, "I used to give six to eight hours on a daily basis." So, he said, "Oh, no, no, sir, how can it be in six to eight hours? You must be studying 12 to 14 hours minimum." The newspaper. Yes. Right? So, in the newspaper, despite him saying that, they ended up writing 12 to 14. So, next time when he was talking to me, I told him, "Next time, don't say this. Say you studied 18 hours." So, he actually said that, and that also got printed in another newspaper. I'll say 26. So, please, please, for the audience, for everyone, once and for all, please tell how many hours are genuinely...

Required to crack this examination. Sir, I would say don't go by hours. Like, let's have a different metric for this. Uh, go by what was a target for the day. Now, I have this target that I want to give a test. I want to revise the key GS, I have to finish three chapters of it. And for optional, I want to get done with this concept. Now, I am here to prepare from 7:30 in the library. Let it take as much time as it takes. When I feel I am extremely tired, I can't do more, I will take a break. I will come back to the library, continue with my target. My effort will be to spend time as productively as possible. Utilize the time. Try to keep my speed up to a level. Don't, do not get distracted. After dinner, by 10 o'clock, I am feeling as if the day is done. I am tired. Let's close for the day. Whatever targets were left, the remaining fraction, push it to the next day. That is how I used to do it. I never put a stopwatch or counted my hours. I don't think it really helps because your focus will be more on the time than on what you are doing. So, that's so useful because it has to be target-oriented, not number of hours. If you want to count something, then count the amount of pages that you have done in a day. That would be a better system. Because you can spend 12 hours in the library and get done with only like five pages. So you basically study for 12 hours. It is good, but you did five pages. Pointless. That's that's a very useful lecture that I think that should help solve a lot of queries. Any other last few questions that we have. Yes. Give it to them, then give it to them too. This is yes. Hello sir. Sir, my question is that how, what was your approach while presenting answers? Uh, meaning, I want to know that what's the best way that we can present an answer that can have some basics about presentation, presentation of answers. See, uh, my effort depends on paper to paper. For example, if it's a GS 2 paper, I try to put an act or an article or a committee. If it's a GS 3 paper, I try to put a report, some data, facts, some economic figures, etc. So, basically, I would say that in the introduction, just try to capture the essence of the question, what the demand of the question is asking, by addressing it with the relevant data, fact, a quote, an article, or something of that sort, which gives some substantiation to the argument that you are about to present. After that, break down the question into multiple aspects. For example, they will ask you, what are the different uses of technology like AI, blockchain, and cryptocurrency in whatever in the question. So, have a sub for each of these things. For example, I use AI, then I present my arguments on AI. Cryptocurrency. I put it down, write a few arguments for this. Then blockchain. So, basically, when he goes over the question, he finds everything given to him just right there. The first impression that the answer gives is that it's a very well-structured answer. It is addressing the demand of the question absolutely. And it is replete with data, facts, graphs, diagrams, just visually appealing and full of, looks like somebody who is well-informed has answered this question. So, that is what I think will ensure that you write a good answer. Right. Yes, please ask now. Sir, how to maintain consistency and get away from distractions and stay motivated because many at times we lose our time, then feeling and realizing is guilty. So, what's the proper stage to use that guilt and come back on track and uninstall whatever is distracting you? You have after uninstalling it also, what is distracting you? YouTube? Then that small phone comes, you know, Nokia's. Use that for, I mean, sir, for payment. For payment, keep that phone, and a feature phone, just keep that for your normal use. That's because many at times we go for searching something, and because with everyone, then you get lost there. So, then one or two hours pass. Then you will have to kind of discipline yourself now. Sir, I am doing for six months, but not like you put a study timer, you put a reverse timer, right? That, that, that blocker comes, right? That after a few minutes, it will give you this notification that you have been on this app for too long. Maybe try to explore that option. That can help. Smartphones have that option. You can put a timer for how. Is there one app also, Forest app? Yes, yes, yes. There is, for productivity, absolutely. That you can use that app. Use technology against technology. Congratulations for your achievements, sir. Sir, my question is, what is a good strategy for GS 4? For GS 4, yeah, because we have to handle case studies also and questions also. I would suggest go through topper copies. There are a few toppers that you know who have got like 160 marks, 140 marks in GS 4. See how they are attempting the case studies. Basically, case studies is about, you will have time, limited time, read through the case study, understand the situation. What you have to actually get out of the case study is the key ethical concepts being discussed there. It will sometimes be the conflict of interest. It will be impartiality, it will be accountability. These things which are given in the ethics syllabus. Once you bring that out, uh, there is a set format that almost everybody uses because toppers have been using it. First, you will make a diagram, you will make the stakeholders. Then questions are very straightforward. Just answer what they are asking you. Like, what is the key ethical issue, issue discussed here? Now, use your creativity. Use, like, don't limit yourself in ethics at all. Just write whatever you feel is right. Just, you will be reading some material on ethics also if you get from the coaching classes or etc. That can be your base material to just know the definitions. Like, in emotional intelligence, if they ask you a question, you will have to define it. So, have these things in place. Other than that, I don't think there is very something very structural about ethics. It is a very open paper, and you can do these two case studies. In case studies, also you have to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, a lot of creativity because they will not just ask you something from the case study, they will ask you, what would you do if you were there? Only you can answer that for yourself. It's a very individualistic question, and you, I would suggest use a lot of creativity. Examples. You can use case studies of GS 2 also in that, uh, paper. So, it's very fluid. I would also suggest refer previous year topper copies for ethics. That's a brilliant source to understand how you go about writing answers there. From there, you will get the best idea. No book, nothing will tell you about GS paper 4 and the approach to that like topper copies. Try to find the topper of that particular GS. Like, this time, luckily, All India Rank 1 has got 141 marks in GS 4. So, meaning, yeah, GS, whoever has done very well, out of, like, in GS 3, Archit, right? So, usually toppers also get marks in the 80s, but he has got in 1068. You have got. So, in this way, if you are able to get, then you can follow. Yes, please. Other questions. Yes. Congratulations and all the best for all your future endeavors. My question to you was that what was your approach for essays and when did you start to write, write essays? Uh, so, see, my essay writing started very late. Like, I did it between Prelims and Mains only. Because of the fact that I was always confident that I write a good essay. Like, in school and everywhere, I have been writing essays. So, it was not a new thing for me. So, what happened in, is that in the 23rd attempt, I had very low scores in essays. I ended up with 86 marks. Uh, that kind of took a hit. So, this time, uh, I did some basic changes like shortening the paragraphs that I write. Uh, trying to add more creative content. If you add creative content, it becomes very appealing for the examiner to read. Because at the end of the day, it's 12 pages, and he will probably have to read a lot of essays. So, your essay has to be gripping, and, uh, basically, focus, I focused a lot on the way that I change from one paragraph to the other. It should not look abrupt. It should have a flow of itself. And, uh, it should be full of interesting things. For example, movies, books, uh, just feel free to use whatever you want. There is no strict thing that you have to use only Western philosophers or authors. Whatever movies that you have seen in your life. Whatever incidents that have happened. But just make sure that you put it briefly. So, basically, the movie or the example or the book that you are quoting should not become the primary argument. It should substantiate the argument that you are making, and in very crisp terms, it should be there. Uh, other than that, just try to maintain the flow. Uh, practice brainstorming a lot. So, you have a lot of PYQs on essay topics. Just sit down. Try to make dimensions. What would you write here? You may, you might discuss it with your friends also because essay is a very broad canvas. A lot of different unique ideas can come in, and you can sort of structure your essay in that manner. So, yeah. Practice a lot on essay brainstorming. Write a few essays periodically if you would like to do that. Uh, maybe on a weekend, or every two weeks, maybe write one essay and please get it evaluated so that you know what you are doing right, and you will be able to correct what you are doing wrong. So, thank you, sir. Thank you. Yes. Pass this here too, Ankit, the mic. Give this to the lady in front. Yes. There was one hand at the back as well. There too. Yes, ma'am, please. First of all, congratulations, sir, for your success. Sir, my question is that I am working and I have done my studies along with my job. So, I have completed 60 to 70% of my syllabus, but I haven't made notes along with it. So, now I don't understand how to revise, and along with that, sir, sorry, sir, sorry to interrupt you. Along with that, I don't have confidence that I remember what I have studied, or whether I will be able to crack Prelims or not. So, how can I manage that? Are you giving Prelims now? I am going to get the paper. So, at this point of time, because you don't have, you are saying, don't have notes ready, your things, just focus on the important parts of the Prelims paper. For example, economics, polity, geography. Whatever standard sources you have read, please go and revise that over and over again. That is the best thing you can do at this point of time. I would suggest give lesser time to things like current affairs because it will be too huge, and the return on investment on that might not be that high. So, the important parts of Prelims, the major subjects, economics, environment, geography, polity, modern history, just do these subjects well because, as you said, the 70% syllabus you have completed, just do that well once again. There is no need to start something new. But sir, it's not concise, so I don't understand where to do it concisely so that my entire revision is done once. The PDFs from where I took classes are also long. You know, you can understand. So, like, try your best whatever time you can give in this period. See, because I won't suggest to you to do any new sources. Even if they are short now. Because you are already done something, 60 to 70%, right? So, whatever you can do, try your best. And give it the best shot that you have. At this point of time, this is the best strategy. Just be confident that the paper is not like, questions will only come from what we are studying. Maybe questions will come from what you remember. So, be optimistic and be confident in the paper. That is what I would say. Sir, along with this, there is one more thing. Like, I have continued with the newspaper. Like, I read The Hindu editorials daily. So, can you tell me how I can take help from it for Prelims? For Prelims, newspaper for Prelims, you will not revise current affairs as a source from the newspaper. It is just that you have a general awareness that when you read any handout or magazine, it will not feel new to you. It will be like, yes, I read it somewhere. You have some fair bit of idea about it, and you can revise it easily. Meaning, it will not be something bulky or unknown, alien to you. Just to have a general awareness and to make your current affairs studies easier later on. We read the newspaper. Also, for ethics, people extract examples from the newspaper. That is also helpful. But it's just to basically keep you in check and that you know about the latest happenings. That's all. And sir, after my Prelims, what should be my approach for the two and a half months I have for preparation? After Prelims, just the time that you have, 80 to 85 days, take the Mains syllabus, and one by one, subject point, read it thoroughly from any source, according to your convenience. And just try to make a short A4 sheet on its important aspects. Challenges, way forward, data, facts, introduction, conclusion, like that. Do that. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Yes, last couple of questions. Yes, give it, ask. Hello sir. First of all, congratulations to you. Thank you. And sir, my question is related to optional. Like, sir, the approach, the strategy, and the overall, like, how to go about it. And sir, second is that the, uh, resources. Like, sir, there are lots of resources in the market. So, sir, how to decide with which one to study? And as you mentioned that you have, we addressed that question earlier, no, when he talked about that you have to go through a few resources. See, standard resources only. Right? There is nothing special that he has read. For history, he said, I read Spectrum. For polity, everyone is referring to Laxmikant. He referred to Laxmikant. For geography, there are NCERTs, GC Leong. So, the resources remain the same, sir. There is nothing different. Optional. Okay. What optional are you talking about? Philosophy. Philosophy. Okay. Fair. Fine. Periodically, if I felt something, I used to Google it. But other than that, I don't think you need to go beyond that. In philosophy, it's more about delivering the content. It's about answer writing practice and understanding what is the demand of the question. Other than that, there is no special source that I followed out. Nothing extremely rare that I did. It's just the same thing. I revised that material multiple times. I had it at the back of my hand, at my fingertips, and I was very used to writing an answer, delivering the content. Basically, to memorize the important aspects of the syllabus points. That is all to do. Structure and answer, get feedback from a mentor, and I think you will be in a good state. And sir, you have said that you have read so many books apart from the related to the syllabus. So, can you suggest those? I don't think it is relevant. It was before I came into UPSC. Uh, it helped me in some ways. You have read a different set of books. What I am saying is that don't restrict what you write on paper to only the sources that you have studied with respect to UPSC. Whatever you have learned, read anywhere else, you can use that if you find it relevant and apt. That is all I was saying. Thank you. One last question. I am really sorry, we have run out of time. One last question. Give it to someone here. I can see this space also, but we will take one question. We can discuss later on as well. Yes, please. Congratulations, sir. Sir, I have one question. How can we differentiate between the risk and the faith factor in Prelims? As we know, in one go, we only do 30 to 35 questions only. Hmm. Sir, that is my question. So, you will be, when you are confused about a question, you will have some partial knowledge, right? Like I said, if you are 60 to 70%, 50 to 60% sure about a question, you have some knowledge about it. Then you have to take a risk where you feel you have to ask yourself, does this option look okay? Like, is this possible? Or will it lead to some problems? Or have I read something that suggests otherwise? So, based on your knowledge, you have to make an educated guess. Try to find out the answer. Try to eliminate options. So, all these things have to be done there. So, you have to take risks for sure. But do not take risks where you don't have, don't have any idea about the concept, but which the question is asking. So, don't make a blind attempt. So, where you have a certain bit of clarity, based on the knowledge, please attempt that question. Sir, if out of four options, I know three options, and I am not clear about one option, whether it is correct or wrong, then what should I do? You, so 75%, you should definitely attempt that question. I am saying, even if you are confused between two options, you should attempt that question. 50 to 60%, 60%. Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay. We will take just one last question. I can see one hand there. You can ask later. This is the last question. One last final question, and then we are done. Yes, please. Congratulations, sir. Sir, my question was that, like, sir, I study, okay? But sir, I cannot recall, sir. Like, in history, who came when, or [music] this is a problem, and I cannot write. And sir, one more difficulty is, I showed my handwriting to my mentor, and he said it's very good, but my roommates, flatmates, say it's not good, nobody understands. So, for handwriting, sir, how, what? I think the first question has been answered. Maybe if you can just elaborate a bit on writing. And yeah, I mean, for recall, so, Muhammad Shah, 1948, these tricks, so they should be, so that problem can be solved. Sir, can you tell me more about that? Which year's student? [Laughter] Sir, yeah. So, writing, man, I think trust more on the mentors who are giving you guidance. Maybe they have mentored other people as well. But like, if your flats are saying it's not good, look into it a bit. Why are they saying that? Maybe they are trying to divert you somewhere else. But just have faith in your teachers. Maybe you can ask sir here. Okay, fine. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much, Archit. Thanks a lot. Your insights and inputs were very practical, and I think things that stand apart. I believe about you is discipline and the amount of perseverance that you have shown as far as preparation for this examination is concerned. So, can we have a huge round of applause for Archit? And, and we are extremely proud that we could play a small role in your success journey, and we really hope to hear great things about your work and the things that you can do for society and for improving things around. Himanshu sir, any last comments, and then we can... Well, as Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose has said that it requires tremendous will and tremendous perseverance to succeed, right? And, and the second one, that the youth, they are the trustees of tomorrow for any nation. So, I think that our nation is in great hands. Thank you. Thank you so much. All the best, right? Thank you. Thank you so much, and really thankful to all of you for being present here. Taking out time. Some of you have exams as well. But I hope that this session helped you in drawing some inspiration from Archit and his journey. Thank you so much again. Jai [music]