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What do you think? Tyra is an optional wish list. So insignificant that it doesn't compete with God's exclusive existence. You're a total apocratus. There's never been such apocus. I I don't I don't I don't know if we should spend a lot of time and energy trying to convince Crown Heights. There's so much resistance for so many different reasons. I don't know if it's worth the energy. I don't know. And I'm not even sure this is going to help.
But all we have to do is put it online. Fine. Put it online and see what happens. But we really need to reach out to the bigger world. So let's do it.
>> The non-Jewish world or the orth not theic. You're saying the the non-Jews.
>> Yep. Maybe that's what uh means. Don't talk to labavators.
Well, I mean, the other side of that is if we don't do anything with Crown Heights, they for sure won't get it. I I I'm very hopeful.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm very hopeful that it will it will have the impact.
>> Yeah. it will have a boomerang effect. The outside world accepts it. Then
>> it's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled. So they already have a preconceived idea of what is teaching. And then to undo that is much harder. They um
>> much much harder.
>> Yeah. There's one who keeps calling me. Stop it. Stop saying that. It's not right. It's not true. Is not him. Vehement. What's your problem? What's your problem?
When I first came to Morristown from a lit first day of Sed in the morning, I sat down, we opened a mimer. I think it was and the word came up. So I asked the the bak that I was learning with what is etsum means. That was his answer. Is and throughout my you know yeshiva years that was always the answer. No one could really. It's meaningless. It was meaningless. It means essential. What does that mean? But like you point out all the time, these words, it can't possibly mean it must be. It can't possibly mean it's needed. It can't. That's just for whatever reason that was the
>> Yeah.
>> paradigm.
>> But that piece that Yonyi sent me from the middle of that that blows everything out of the water. It's it's like it is the most powerful quote we have because he says clearly that is in
>> that word that everybody has to avoid you know he's not nitas he's not nitas he says without a cover this is him and he is nitas in it must have been a mistake
Yeah. Well, thank you for doing this. My hope is that we can really deep dive into the sources in the following chapters of the book just like you mentioned uh the Marash. you know, those are the sources that um I think a lot of people need to hear just because people need the sources and um I hope that's a big part of the book.
>> I know. Yeah. But need the sources is a big part of the problem.
>> It's like we can't really use our own intelligence. This is what religion does. This is not what Yiddishka is. Religion dumbs you down. If it's written, it's right. And if it's not written, it's not right.
What do you think? What do I think? What's my opinion? Meaningful, important. Well, to you it should be. So that that's such a copout that if I show you that it's written, then you're going to have to accept it. Don't you accept it? Not asking for kabala soil. We're asking for seahor, which is what kabad used to be. Yeah, kabad is great. If it had a little seal, it would be even better.
So this is six generations ago. This is not revolutionary new. And he says even though it is written no thought can comprehend him not even the highest levels of creation even before skip a few words. Despite that, there is a level of thought which is essential and internal to God literally, not right. which is which is connected to the essence of God himself and he is trapped in it literally. Now the word trapped, do you have a better word for it?
Huh?
>> Contained.
>> Yeah, true.
>> He's like in separate. It's inseparable. And what is that? But the the thoughts and the wisdom of Tai, which is not only a theory or a concept, but it is his ultimate pleasure, his essential pleasure. Because His entire being is invested in this because it is his internal and essential wisdom literally and therefore the wisdom of Torah is not like any other wisdom which is an expression that is external and that's in insignificant compared to God. But this internal the the wisdom of that is literally him.
Is that the whole thing or it continues? That's it.
>> That's the whole That's what I got.
>> Yeah. Where is this? Does it give you
>> right? um bay page tud and
>> we got to put that out on on the co from enough. I found a comment on the interview that I posted with JTV with Ali two days ago and someone actually articulated this stance very well which I actually wanted to just read it cuz this is what he was saying and this is a labure you know someone that didn't learn to this is one thing but someone learns to this and has an impression and this is what the common wrote since the essence osmos is not within the realm of revelation at all as mentioned above it is entirely ly inapplicable to ascribe any description or cause to his blessed essence. Likewise, it is impossible to apply to him any specific concept or to describe him with any limitation whatsoever even with the most sublime descriptions such as no beginning as brought down by the ter by the rebate or infinite like it's brought down in terra or even boundless like it's brought down in ter or the description luminary or m like the rebab says or cause of all causes elo like the and the like this is brought down and so on and so on. So when talking about convincing labavatures it's that this is specifically where the issue lies that once you talk about God's essence he's indescribable. I I just like I I as much as I was trying to talk about it from every which angle and I think I was successful to a certain degree, I I I I don't know if we could just sort of go over that again. What's the best way of addressing that? the inherent contradiction. He cannot be described in any term and any expression in any except that he cannot be described. So he is completely limitless except that he is very limited in that he cannot be described in any way whatsoever. So you just described him as pretty much nothing. If he is beyond description, then he can be anything. Not he can't be anything. His entire essence can be centered and focused and obsessed with one little thing like don't eat worms. So, how can he be upset with that? He's he's he he's without definition. So it could turn out that the most important thing to him is that you don't eat a worm. No, that can't be. You just said there's no description. We have to find that quote where the says right which means you can't attribute any limits to him. That's not him. The Reba says what is him is this God who cannot be defined in any way whatsoever wants you. The wanting is him not the fact that he could want anything. You can't describe something. This is a scientific fact. You can't describe something by what? By what it's not. That's not a definition. So the fact that he is not limited by creation, by time, by space, okay, but what is he? Well, that's what he is. No, that's not what he is. That's what he's not. So what is he? He can be whatever he chooses. So what are you way putting a limit on him? All those statements everywhere that he is not limited and he's not he's not talking about and mitzvah. He's talking about creation. All the symptoms or the or the characteristics of creation cannot be applied to a creator. That is so simple and obvious. But it doesn't tell you anything about him. It only tells you what he's not. Ta tells you what he is. So I was learning and it quoted some quotes that are quoted often say this and this is what throws people off. For example, it was just him and his name and then after they said It was he himself without any change.
>> Mhm.
>> And that shows what?
>> Well, to most people that shows that he's above all this.
>> All what is all this? Creation doesn't apply to Ta. I think this quote from the he goes on to say um oh is 2,000 years older than creation. Right. Yeah. So what you're saying about God not being affected by creation doesn't doesn't apply to the relationship that he has with Taan. But but as it's played out in creation cuz we are in creation. So now if I put on the fillin or I don't put on the fillin now he's affected by creation. Isn't Isn't that true? is affected by twill. When you put on the twill, it affects him to put on fill. Right? When it says God says if you do this my anger will flare up against you. Whose anger? Whose anger? The anger of Ailus. Who's going to get angry? It really it makes a mockery of the whole toy. God says I'm very angry and we say no you're not. Well well we say that because it's constantly quoted from me called he has no emotions. I constantly have this conversation with people says so it's constantly quoted and then you wonder why people don't get it. Yeah. So what does that mean? He has he's not his emotions then He is not compo he's not composed of emotions. In other words, you can't take put them together and there you have an No, you don't. God is not made up of parts. That's what it's saying. So you can't attribute parts to him. Not even the parts. On the other hand, how can you say that he is not capable of love? back the statement I have not changed. How do you explain that?
So, spends a lot of time and a lot of pages on explaining how the world coming into existence does not change God's exclusivity. He is still the only existence in the world. Why? Because the existence of the universe is not real. It's merely one word out of a out of infinite words. It can't exist without Hashem. Not even for a second. It doesn't have an existence. The is still the only thing that exists. That's that's basic right. So now the question is but what about before he gave the he was different. Now that he gave the Torah, there's a change. No. So what can you say? No, he hasn't changed because really nothing. That's what some of these people are actually saying. It's all meaningless to him. That's what you're saying about the Tyra. You're out of your mind. And what about the mamish? That's also nothing. So how do you understand a mulad? Okay. The world, the existence of planets, earth, sky, it's all nothing. Fine. And is not a contradiction to his exclusive existence. So you know it turns out that the question is not really about God. The question is about What do you think is an optional wish list so insignificant that it doesn't compete with God's exclusive existence? You're a total uppercus. There's never been such epicourses. How is not a contradiction to how does that not contradict the statement that there is only God and nothing else? And your answer is because the TA is so insignificant. So the answer inus is there's only God and nothing else because creation is nothing and is everything. It's him. So there is nothing besides him. That's such a fundamental principle in in amuna.