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Oh, that's fine. It'll come back.
>> Question. Um, why do girls prefer older guys?
>> Um, I feel like usually a lot of younger guys are kind of immature. Honest. Honestly, that's all I can add to it, I guess.
>> Honestly, I feel like older guys have more guidance and knowledge about life. They can teach a younger woman more things.
>> I'm a cougar, so I'm going to go for the younger guys. I'm I've dated my fair share of older men and honestly I like my 25, 26 year olds. I think they're so fun.
>> You're a predator.
>> I'm 29. I'm 29 years old. I'm 29 years old. It's legal. I'm not dating an 18 or 21, 22. I'd say like 27, 28. It's like it's fun.
>> I don't know this.
>> We could turn your headphones on.
>> No, they can hear you.
>> No, I know. I I don't know if she can hear me.
>> No. Can I hear you?
>> No. Cuz I'm not speaking anymore to you. What's wrong with me liking a 27-year-old? I'm 29. My fiance, my ex-fiance was 27. He was a great guy, very mature, had his own business. How dare you?
>> Just so I can you elucidate a little bit more cuz you had made a comment that like um people are predators. I'm assuming you meant like men um like one of the agreements you had was like um the guys that you had seen wanted women under 30. Yeah.
>> And that they were predators. What do you mean by that?
>> So like a 33-year-old going for an 18-year-old I think is a little inappropriate. I think a 10-year gap, and let's say I'm 25 and the guy is 32, that seems a bit fine. But when it comes to a girl that's just getting out of her pre-teen ages,
>> okay,
>> and dating a man that is there are some cases and some relationships that work really well and they're beautiful relationships and the guys are great and I that is amazing, but not a lot of people have good intentions.
>> So, you would say anything beyond 10 years is is too much.
>> Um, I feel like it depends on the age of the person is. So if you're like 33, like I said, dating an 18-year-old, that's inappropriate. I think that's slightly inappropriate.
>> As they get older, as they get older, it doesn't matter. So like if let's say someone's 18, you know what I'm saying? And someone's 33, you know, cuz that's that's those are years like adolescence. You know what?
>> That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of development going on.
>> Let's say a girl's 30 and the guy's 45. Is it?
>> That's fine because the woman frontal lobe is developed. She's able to make the decisions thing is coming right.
>> It is true. I know. I always talk about it because you kind of passed your immaturity phase. You're telling me a 29-year-old is the same as an 18-year-old.
>> Did you know about your frontal lobe at 18?
>> Uh, no. I didn't know when I was 18.
>> What age were you when somebody said your frontal lobe wasn't
>> Oh, when I when I was 13, my father would tell me all the time.
>> So, but you just told me you didn't know about it when you were 18.
>> But like I wasn't thinking when I was 18.
>> I see what you're saying. I would say that 25 is when your frontal lobe is developed. I
>> start making better decision. I didn't ask you guys for the scientific. I said, when did you hear about your frontal lobe?
>> Oh, when I was young, don't smoke marijuana cuz your brain's not going to develop properly.
>> No, no, no. Okay, let me say this verbatim.
>> At what age were you ladies
>> when they said your frontal lobe isn't developed at
>> You learned that at 18.
>> You learned it at 13.
>> This is bull. Is this thing on, man?
>> Is this thing on?
>> It is on. I'm literally telling you I got caught smoking weed and my parents lost their
>> saying your brain is not developed your frontal lobe is not developed.
>> Just so I make sure that I have um do all of you guys it seems like we have two ladies here that agree with the you know prefrontal lobe not being developed is significant with making decisions. How many of you guys agree with that?
>> Raise your hand.
>> I mean, don't they teach you that on like DAR or whatever? Isn't that like
>> I'm just asking like if you guys agree with them that like hey your your frontal lobe isn't developed so it's so you agree I saw you raise your hand. What about you? Do you agree with that? I mean, yeah, I agree with that.
>> Okay, so fair. Um, anyone else agree with that?
>> Okay, just you four. Okay, how do you guys think we should fix that issue? Should we raise the age of adulthood?
>> Yes, of course. I definitely believe that it should be like 25.
>> 25.
>> Oh, for sure.
>> So 25 makes you an adult?
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So that would mean that you would not be able to do Only Fans and you would not be able to do porn. You guys are totally okay with that?
>> I am a thousand%. So you guys are not considered adults until
>> I think I think it's disgusting that women and men can be in the adult industry at 18.
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> And the fact that they're they're using it to like just be like, "Oh, I just turned 18." Like and they use the cusp to make them like like subscribe. Like that's disgusting because
>> would this be only for men or women in your guys's?
>> Both.
>> You think both genders are not adults until 25? Yeah, absolutely.
>> Maybe a little older for guys.
>> No, men have men are like I feel like guys are like I feel like guys hold their innocence a little bit longer than women do nowadays. So
>> I I when I see a 20-year-old guy or 21-year-old, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, you're so cute. You're literally like fresh out of high school. Like that's adorable." Like dumber than women.
>> I feel like guys are smarter than women.
>> No,
>> I mean judging by this table
>> guys are really smart. But I feel like they're just picked on in society. They're just
>> Okay, how about let's say this. Guys are smarter in different areas and women are smarter in other areas. We need each other, but I don't think that like like women are very emotional and I think like
>> nurturing
>> being 25 is like the where we should be like not 21, 18, whatever,
>> man. All that 25 is crazy work. It's crazy work. Let's be honest, chat. Like
>> 25 men, women could be legal, man. I'm trying to take shots when I'm 21.
>> Okay. Not alcohol.
>> 25 is OD. I'm not saying I mean like look, it's OD. You know that. Come on. Huh?
>> Like I'm not saying alcohol. I'm not saying alcohol. I'm saying like emotions.
>> I'm I'm saying
>> sorry. I'm not saying emotions. I'm saying like for relationships
>> 25 like is when your frontal lobe is whatever. You can drink at 21.
>> Look. Look what's happening. Don't you find it interesting how he asked the question, right? Don't you find it interesting how he asked the question, right? Like, why is it why does women like men that are younger? And in in general,
>> like women like men that are older, I mean, women like men women like men that are older and men like women that are younger. You know what I'm saying? So, like that's the situation. It's just it's biological. You know what I mean? and we're going back and forth 25 and the third. Don't get me wrong, you're 33 years old trying to date and marry a girl like 18.
>> We want a man who's gonna prove himself like plan things like do things, you know, I got two questions. Can the ladies raise their hand if it is true or not true?
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Who here is 25 or older? Raise your hand. Okay.
>> Hi, please.
>> Yeah, hi. Now, who here has had sex with a man or made a decision at 25 or older? Raise your hand.
>> What does that even mean?
>> Is there a liar button right now?
>> NO. NO. WAIT. LIKE, WHAT IS this decision?
>> Like, stop. Have you had sex with a man that didn't work? Did you pick the wrong guy?
>> Oh, at 25 or older? Did you pick the wrong Okay. Did you pick the wrong guy at 25 or older?
>> Raise your hand.
>> Raise your hand. Okay. So, your frontal lobe 25
>> doesn't mean anything. You were doing it at 18. You're doing it at 25.
>> You're doing it at 29.
>> When do we stop using this excuse?
>> It's not an excuse.
>> When you're there's not enough maturity going on in your brain.
>> So, maybe it's an experience thing. Maybe it's an experience thing. Like you have to experience
>> like your love.
>> Maybe that's what it is.
>> Okay. Okay, ladies. Back this way now. Wait, no. Hold on. Did you answer? No. Right.
>> Huh?
>> About what?
>> Why do No. Where were we? We were right here.
>> I have no idea.
>> Why do women prefer older men? Was it you or you?
>> I think it's my turn now.
>> Yeah.
>> Honestly, um, can you hear me? Um, honestly it's just having more experience and being able kind of like what you were saying like um as a woman like I want someone to lead me and and and
>> and take care of me and so
>> older tends to be better.
>> Okay. For you
>> I like older honestly.
>> Okay.
>> Same with her.
>> Yeah.
>> For you. I think that I like it's impossible for be attracted to guys my age because I see them as equal to me and I don't want to be with somebody like equal to me.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> And for you?
>> Um younger men.
>> Yeah. You get it, babe. They're so fun and they do so much. They just laugh.
>> Um Okay. For all the girls that said older, uh what's the appropriate age gap or what's the maximum age gap you think?
>> We'll start here.
>> She said younger. So, well, yeah, but
>> probably like anywhere between 5 and 7 years, I think. I don't know.
>> Seven years.
>> Yeah.
>> Feel like that's reasonable.
>> I would say five and 15 years. Um, my what I like is like 11.
>> Wait, wait, wait. 11 years. Is that good?
>> Yeah, I like 11 years.
>> But that's kind of like specific though. How How would you pick that?
>> I mean, I've had it before twice. I've had it before twice. So like it's just something I like.
>> So what if you meet what if you meet a guy who's your perfect astrology sign, he's perfect height, money, and he's
>> 8 years.
>> Sure, sure, that's fine. But what I'm saying is like usually they have their together by then.
>> Okay.
>> So I just want them to have their together and then I'm fine.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> What age?
>> No, I agree. Like 5 to 7 years, that's that's pretty good. Yeah. And for you,
>> I I normally tend to go for like a little younger to my age. Oh. Oh,
>> yeah.
>> I would say like 5 to 10 years.
>> Mine depends on energy, honestly.
>> Can you describe the energy for me? Bills, get a video up and next.
>> So, like some people just have really good energy and some don't. I don't I don't know. It's just the connection you feel with somebody. Everybody's different. Hayden, real quick, um, in your opinion, what age gap is good for men? Like, how how long should it be?
>> Uh, the bigger the age gap, uh, the more of a W that is, I think, for you as a man. But uh I I wish I think it should be that women live with their parents until they're married and then ideally they get married as young as possible and as low a body count as possible. Ideally a virgin before you get married. This is how it's supposed to be. And what we have found out is that when women are given the option to not get married and have kids, um they tend to not pick that. So I think it's always been this way, but in the past, uh we haven't been rich enough for women to have HR jobs or do only F, you know, there wasn't so much excess that women could have jobs and do nothing. uh they had to get a man who had a real job and uh I don't know they don't have to anymore. So uh I uh I don't know women don't like men that much
>> and we know that for a fact now.
>> Thank you.
>> Um
>> Mike, what is your preference or what's your men's story for age gap boys? I think it really just comes down to I feel if the girl is 18 to 25, those are the key, you know what I'm saying? The key ages for men and women, right? Anything after that, it don't really matter too much. But I feel like let's say girl's 20 and a guy's like 35. Look, I know it's cliche, but it's like he has nothing in common. You know what I'm saying? And it's kind of like there's no it's just sexual attraction and you know she can be nurturing she can be all these things that he wants in a woman pure all these things but it's like what do you talk about at night? You know what I'm saying? Do we have the same references? So I feel like as a man a guy to be let's see I'll say like five five to five to 10
>> after 25 don't matter too much but if you're 26 years old you're dating a guy at 60 still kind of wild. Okay,
>> ain't going to lie,
>> Rico.
>> I mean, there was data that said that the most successful marriages was a 5 year a 3 to 5 year gap, I believe,
>> of the men being older. However, my biggest concern isn't the age gap. My biggest concern is where the are y'all fathers? Like that's my biggest concern because to date a man 11, 15, 20 years older than you, like did y'all have y'all dads in your life? Did you have a good dad, a strong dad, one that didn't play?
>> Yeah.
>> There's no way.
>> Wait, wait. Did you five? Huh?
>> Did you?
>> No. That's why I was
>> So you didn't either.
>> I know. And I was off the made a lot of mistakes at 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. But
>> Mhm.
>> I know where my where where my mistakes come from,
>> but I'm not going to sit here and lie.
>> So, there was there was a a video done yesterday and not because it's someone that we know, but it was very villain because this girl was on our show and I know her real age. Now, the guy she's dating is 41 years old. Watch the video and give me your honest opinion about this situation. Here we go. And then we'll come back to your question. Oh, you I'm 41.
>> And you?
>> Don't worry about it.
>> 20. She's 21.
>> Yeah.
>> That's an age gap here. What makes you go for a man who's 20 years old?
>> So, he's 41. Mar, do you remember?
>> Yeah. Home, bro.
>> Um,
>> her name's Bella.
>> So bad with [ __ ]
>> So, question for you real quick.
>> How old is this girl in in this video?
>> 21.
>> Pull it back up.
>> Huh?
>> She looks 19. Um, she looks around 20.
>> She's 21.
>> 21.
>> How How old is she?
>> Oh, I think she's like probably 21. She looks 18 to me. 20.
>> Hayden, how old is she?
>> Uh, she said she was 21 in the video. Are you saying she was lying?
>> Okay. How old is she?
>> I was going to say 21, too, but you know, she might be Kevin.
>> No.
>> Okay, let's play the video. older than you
>> because I have daddy issues.
>> Oh, at least she admits it.
>> I like older men because I feel like younger men just don't know how to do it. Like, first of all, they're not experienced. And second of all, there's like a lot of younger guys who are going to have like a lot of money, but they won't spend it. And they don't know how to take care of a woman.
>> They're too much of a boy. I'm less of a [ __ ] boy now that I'm a mature amer. Women that are in their early 20s, they go for older men. But a lot of these older men are ugly. You'll have guys that are taller, have bigger penises, that are maybe for four decades, ladies and gentlemen.
>> Cringe. Anyhow, that's video. That's a video. It gets worse.
>> And I think that's what women look for is the whole package. So, she hit the lottery with me getting a guy that's in his early 40s that looks like he is in mid-30s. So, do you consider this a situationship or a sugar daddy sugar baby thing?
>> No, he hasn't even gave me no money.
>> I haven't given her money. Yeah, I just take her out and stuff, but uh
>> No, he's a really funny guy.
>> I'm funny. But have y'all already done the deed?
>> Don't ask me that question.
>> Yeah, we made we met
>> No, we did not.
>> Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, whatever. We're adults here, but uh
>> No, we did not. I'm noting my sex life on social media. Yeah, we'll just say that the viewers could assume if we did or not, but but if I if we did do it, was it okay? Was it okay for you, Bella? Was it above average? At least
>> she knows exact the video, please. I can't
>> know exactly what she's doing. She knows.
>> This is what young men are facing. By the way, though, if you're a young man, that's the girl that's supposed to be
>> she has daddy. I need to go first. All right. Please go. Hold on. There's more.
>> I don't want to watch anymore.
>> Wait. Wait. There's more. Continue.
>> Oh gosh.
>> You see yourself being serious with him?
>> Yeah.
>> And he plays too much. So that's why we're in a situationship.
>> Yeah. But if I could be 100% monogous, then you would be in a relationship with me.
>> Yes.
>> Would you ever see that happening? Yeah. I like Bella. I think she's like really cool. Like look at her. She's naturally beautiful. These are real, by the way.
>> Most women have to pay a lot of money for boobs like that. So yeah, I can't see myself in relation. How old are you?
>> Okay.
>> Okay, that's the end of the video. Um, we'll start here because Hold on. You want to go first? Uh, Rico or Hayden? Mike?
>> I'll go last.
>> Okay. Thoughts on the video. And is it disgusting? Is it normal? Is it cool? Is it cringe? What's your opinion?
>> I mean, I think it was cringey. Personally, I've been with somebody older at a younger age and they definitely took advantage of me and like videoed me without my consent. did not see the camera mounted on their wall. Yeah. So, and they were almost 40 years old and I don't know. I just think it's gross. I do think that is a gross age gap and a very manipulative one.
>> That was a lot, man. Um, sorry to hear that, but that's a lot. Okay,
>> that's life. Honestly, I think it is cringey cuz I'm 23 and it's a lot of guys like 40 and up is interested in me and it's like nothing we have in common,
>> you know? It's just like
>> I mean, sex,
>> but it's just like it's just uncomfortable for me. It's uncomfortable to watch, too.
>> But you would would you actually want a lot in common with a guy that's older than you like that?
>> What I want?
>> Yeah. Like would you want a guy to actually have like your same hobbies and interests?
>> Of course. But somebody more
>> What are your hobbies and interests?
>> Um
>> the beach.
>> You have none. Fantastic.
>> I'm learning I'm learning that about myself. No.
>> So, you want a guy that's learning about himself, too?
>> Yeah.
>> What's the purpose of dating an older man?
>> Uh, it's not maturity.
>> It's definitely not
>> to that degree.
>> Okay. What about you?
>> I think it's really cringey. I think she's getting her bag in that situation. It was very obvious. If she was interested, she'd say, "That's my man. It doesn't matter what he's doing. I'm very interested in it." But it No, she said it was a situationship. If that was my man, I'd say, "That's my man." But but she said she get paid though.
>> She's not getting she's not getting money.
>> You don't. But he's taking her out and she looks really br Come on.
>> She knows exactly what she's doing as a
>> break. Give me Okay, cool.
>> Yes.
>> For you.
>> I agree. Pretty cringe.
>> Yeah.
>> For you, Charlotte.
>> Oh, okay. So, I think it was like honestly like the guy wanted it more than she did. like she was just in it for the money or whatever, wherever he was taking her. And then he was, you could tell that he was on a power trip.
>> Like he was on a power trip the whole time. So yeah.
>> I mean, you explain how he was on a power trip specifically.
>> The way he was talking.
>> I mean,
>> like his his vocabulary just like the way he undermined her and everything like
>> No, he um asked her questions. He just he just like um
>> But would you expect that out of someone that's 11 years older than you?
>> Well, okay, here's the thing. If someone is interested in me like that, I would want them to treat me a certain way. Like like good. I wouldn't want them to just be um like all about themselves.
>> No, he um included her in the whole thing. He was asking her questions and everything.
>> I guess
>> I would argue he was too inclusive of her, but that's fine. So, you don't think he was too
>> I just think he was a little like too over the top about himself. Like he should be humble. I like I like humble men.
>> Sigma.
>> Yes. Sigma. Like men that are humble that that they don't
>> sigma male. That's not an alpha.
>> Not an alpha. I like a man that knows he owns the room without having to say.
>> I want him to own the room, but at the same time, I want
>> sigma males. Sigma males making a comeback. Okay. Sigma males are where it's at. That man who knows the thing is the thing is you guys know what sigma male means.
>> I do know he owns the room but at the same time
>> he doesn't go in the room.
>> Oh yes he does.
>> He doesn't y
>> he doesn't go in the room. Sigma males are like loners. Like they don't like to be around people. They're not social at all. They're awkward as [ __ ]
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. I don't know.
>> That's true. My mother's a sigma female.
>> Maybe what I'm saying is is like a hybrid sigma and alpha. I don't know. I think I I think if you're in if you're in an environment you're telling me a sigma male is never going to leave the house. Yes, of course they like to be alone. Their personality is more exclusive. They like to be by themselves. They're huge introverts.
>> Yes, I'm not finished. But they also like to spend time with people who mean a lot to them.
>> Whereas an alpha male is very present as well as an alpha female.
>> True.
>> Okay. So, we're on the same page.
>> Yes. I like a man who is very confident in himself and knows what he offers without having to present it to the world.
>> No, no, you're missing the point, ladies. Like, see, this is what like always perplexes me with women.
>> The problem with you guys is you uh assume the end product. You never think, how did the end product get there? You're saying you want some sigma male. Well, how the is he gonna meet you if he's always inside and he doesn't like to meet new people and he's introverted? See, you guys interpret the world through your lens. Oh, I'm a woman. Men coming up to me. So, women must go up to him. That's not how it works. We have to be the ones to be extroverts. Go out there, risk rejection
>> because you're a provider.
>> Let me finish what I'm saying. We have to go out there, risk rejection, waste a bunch of money, waste our time, get dressed, go out, etc. Like, you don't have women.
>> Can you finish talking, please?
>> Sure.
>> Shut up. Talk.
>> Yeah. So men have to make an enormous investment to even begin the courting process. And a lot of times it's going to fail for you. And sigma males are socially awkward. Unfortunately, women are very sensitive to socially awkward men. You guys don't like that. If a guy comes up to you and he's weird in his tonality, he doesn't put his sentences out coherently. He doesn't speak in an active voice. He speaks in a passive voice. You look at him like, "This guy's [ __ ] weird. He might be the sigma that you're talking about, but is he going to actually attract you in a social environment?" Probably not. is not awkward is ways.
>> That's the issue.
>> Women say, "I want this guy, but you guys don't understand that that guy comes with certain things that you will not be attracted to." A lot of times when you first meet him, the only time I've seen like Sigma guys like you guys claim meet a girl that's hot or whatever is typically through like some social circle, someone introduce them. He's a little weird, but you you should date him. But that guy struggles with talking to women. How the do I know this? I've talked to thousands of men that are sigma males like you guys are claiming. These guys have problems.
>> What?
>> Have you tried? H what?
>> Tried what?
>> Like have you tried like have you just tried it?
>> Tried what specifically
>> to like go into a girl's games and did she turn you down? Like have you tried
>> what?
>> What the
>> I'm so confused with what you're saying.
>> What?
>> Have you TRIED
>> SIGMA males are not socially awkward? I don't think you understand.
>> Sigma males are not real quick. I got to speak on this on baby. Hold on real quick on baby. Go ahead.
>> I'm going to say this. When I was in college, all right, it's sigas and it's alphas, fraternities, right?
>> Look, sigas got some good attributes. You know what I'm saying? They do. You know what I'm saying? They love, they caring, cool. But the alphas had the motion. At the end of the day, if to be an alpha man, like in general, women want a guy that can provide the alpha, the sigma, I feel like a lot of women, I want a guy that's does some very soft. Get the [ __ ] out of here, man. THEY WANT TO PROVIDE SOME ALPHA [ __ ] I GET THE [ __ ] out of here. No, there's anomalies. There's I'm speaking from a general standpoint. You feel what I'm saying? But in general, women want a guy that's on alpha. Let's be real.
>> I like a quiet man who can put his foot down and say enough.
>> You're not single. What are you talking about?
>> So many guys. I just choose to be single.
>> This is why this is why I I like I truly do believe it's pointless women and what they're attracted to. They're never going to be honest or or they'll be attracted to things or they'll say they like things that they're actually not aroused by or attracted to. I want a nice guy. Nice guy shows up, gives him roses on a front date. He's boring and I actually take him seriously. I want you guys to treat me well. Takes you on a super extravagant air balloon date. He's not tall enough. It's like I don't listen to what you guys say cuz
>> if to me I take your guys. Stop. Let me finish what I'm saying. Dare you. You know, as I've been listening here to the course of this conversation and seeing what you guys say and just watching the contradictions and writing them down, I've just come to realize like the only way you're going to actually fix the dating market and bring marriage back and bring things back is you have to just remove rights from women cuz you guys are horrible when it comes to picking your own partners. You don't believe me? Why are women hypersphilax? Why do they go for someone like a Ted Bundy? Why are women showing up to Luigi man hearings? The guy murdered somebody. He's a crazy mother. When women are there, he looks good. Because women, unfortunately, the things you guys are aroused by, the things that you guys like, are not politically correct. You can't sit there and say, "I want a guy that's not going to call me back. I want a guy to call me shut the [ __ ] up when I say I want a guy that put me on my place." You're never going to admit this. You're going to say, "I want roses. I want a guy that's going to treat me well." But then you curve all those guys. So when you say, "I want a sigma male." You don't understand that the sigma male is not really going to be put in a position most of the time to attract you.
>> You're talking about when attraction is already there and it's working. But the problem is that that guy is not going to put himself out there to talk to you a lot of times. Or if he does, you're going to brutally reject him cuz he's awkward, which many of them are. I've talked to thousands of these guys. It's like women want to enjoy the pizza, but you don't know how the pizza's made cuz you guys are dumb. Do you feel like
>> we have to make we have to understand the pizza because we're the ones baking. We have to be I'm being honest. We have to understand you guys. You don't have to understand us. I must understand you to get laid. You don't have to understand me. Get my attention. So this is why women are so unaware of what men are attracted to. And this is why you guys struggle with retaining guys. This is why you struggle with [ __ ] a guy and then getting married. That's why cuz women don't understand like who hurt you. Why are you so like upset?
>> Hey, crazy word.
>> Honestly,
>> no, I understand what you're saying. I understand the education, but like you seem hurt.
>> If I give uncomfortable psychological realities about how women may select, how does that mean I hate women?
>> I'm not saying you hate women. I'm saying you seem hurt.
>> You You're inferring it. I'm saying you feel like I feel like you're hurt by somebody. That's what it feels like.
>> I have a question for the ladies, right? And this is just a it's a very simple question.
>> Is it possible? Is it possible?
>> Okay.
>> That you could be wrong.
>> 100%.
>> 100%.
>> How dare you?
>> Let me ask you this, right? cuz we just
>> you say you like one second two seconds like it.
>> So let's just say if it's possible that you could be wrong.
>> Okay.
>> Can we for one second just say
>> maybe I'm wrong?
>> Yeah, I% will take accountability.
>> But what does it take for you to say
>> that's it? Maybe I'm wrong. I'm I'm wrong. Like that's it. I'm just saying I just thought that he seems hurt. Like that's
>> No. No. We're not I don't want to do this feeling thing. Like you feel like you didn't like what he said, so you come out of
>> It's not that It's not that I don't like that.
>> You seem insecure.
>> No, I'm not. I I just am genuinely concerned for his feelings.
>> But we're concerned for you. We're not concerned for his feelings. We're concerned that you're saying you want something that you don't know the real characteristics of. So like if I try to educate you, it's not coming from a negative place. If anybody tries to educate you, it's not coming from a negative place. It's just the possibility that your reality get that is incorrect.
>> But can I educate also or no?
>> Oh, the second they use that can I educate you? You know,
>> why didn't you say when I when I spoke negatively about sigma males? Why did you ask me if I hated men?
>> Wait, what?
>> When I spoke negatively about sigma males and I talked about their social awkwardness, their ineptitude when it comes to female psychology and understanding not being able to be attractive. Why did you say I hate men?
>> I said that you hated men.
>> Okay. I don't think I said that.
>> Why did you not ask me if I hate men when I gave you,
>> you know, not redeeming realities about sigma males?
>> No, I just said I like sigma sigma males. That's all I said.
>> That's it.
>> She lost. She lost.
>> She lost. She lost.
>> I I said negative things about female psychology. Fair. And female nature. Fair. Earlier.
>> Sure.
>> Okay. You responded to that by asking me who hurt me or do I hate women? Right. I'm just saying like you seem like you're you're very like
>> fair. Now I'm going to ask you why did you ask me if I hate men or who hurt me when I was critical of men
>> because like I I just said like who hurt you? That's it. I was asking you. You don't have
>> She's a tribalistic feminist.
>> She's in the sisterhood.
>> I just said I'm
>> or sorry I didn't say men. Sorry. I just said like who hurt you? I'm calling out the discrepancy where you automatically assumed I hate women cuz I was critical of women. But when I was critical of men, you didn't say a word. That's what I'm calling out. There's a Do you see the discrepancy there?
>> Uh like I don't remember it being like that. But
>> you assume that he was he was talking about like when Sigma male, right? You just assume. No, I'm just I'm just saying like like I literally
>> I literally just was like
>> but Taylor, you like the space Taylor, right? That's your name.
>> Yeah,
>> Taylor.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's just take you from space and bring you back down to Earth.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Let's just sit here for a second.
>> Yeah.
>> With us. All right.
>> For the remainder of the conversation, just
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Thanks.
>> All right. It's fine. Um, you I know you guys want to say something. I'll turn it. Yeah. Go ahead, please.
>> Kind of kind of to like spin off of that, right?
>> And correct me if I'm wrong. Question for the ladies, right? When y'all say like you want a sigma man, this is what I think. I think I want an alpha man, a malf, but every now and then, you know, he's he has sigma qualities. And I feel like it's it's not black and white, you know?
>> Yeah.
>> Um, and I think that's why we're having this debate right now, cuz it's kind of like
>> that's what I was trying to have. I wasn't trying to be like
>> just sigma or just alpha. It's an alpha male that every now and then just sigma qualities. You know what I'm saying?
>> They want both.
>> They want both. But they want more alphas.
>> Now imagine this. You were referring to DMs, right? So social media has changed the landscape of dating forever. But if I'm a sigma male and I can talk in person, I could DM you. But here's the problem. Let's say I DM you and we meet. I'm still awkward as [ __ ] Still we still lose sigas.
>> Is it not true?
>> No, that's not true.
>> Did you guys mean to say like nonchalant rather than I feel very I I actually like a nerd. I know it sounds so weird. I can
>> be an alpha and I [ __ ] love a nerd. No, I love a nerd. You're a boyfriend.
>> Put you on white. Was he a nerd? DAD,
>> ALL MY EXES ARE NERDS.
>> NO, NO, NO. Then put you on Coke. Was he a nerd?
>> He's not nerd. Thank you.
>> He was not even my type. If I really look back at it by following but following but following through on my other longterm relationships. I like a nerd. So
>> like can't an alpha male be a nerd?
>> Yeah. What do you mean by nerd? You mean like they have like hobbies?
>> Yeah. Like I like when they have like action figures and stuff in the house and like weird like that. Like I have no like Yes, it is. Are you
>> I love a Pokemon guy. I like a guy who likes Lord of the Rings. Star Wars.
>> I just thought of a really good question.
>> What do you girls think about guys who watch sports? It's the weekend. He's like, "My team's playing right now."
>> Like like uh uh let's say basketball. He's like, "Oh man, my team's playing. I hope my team wins." And he watches basketball every weekend. Is that attractive?
>> I'm opening him. I'm opening his beer and bringing him a little
>> He watches basketball every weekend, but is he making money or is he a dead? It's a big difference.
>> Uh he's he makes he makes $6,000 a month
>> and he works 40 hours a week
>> and all of his free time
>> 40 hours a week though. He's slaving away to put food in the fridge.
>> Well, he's doing the wrong job then.
>> 40 hours 40 hours a week and all his free time goes to watching sports. What do you guys think about when a guy watches and I'll tell you what I think, but yeah. What when a guy's main hobby is watching sports, whether it be football, basketball, baseball,
>> it's once a week, like a Saturday night thing.
>> No, during the his during the season he's he's following a team
>> and during the season he's just always watching.
>> I think that it's like anything in life like too much of anything is bad.
>> I like a martial arts. It's okay if he's obsessing with martial arts, but I don't like too much of a sport. Unless it's like
>> so like and then he can watch
>> fight night. I'm like hoping the guys come over and I'm cooking a bomb dinner for everybody and they all got their beer and stuff and like I'm just like tell me when you need something.
>> Love that.
>> I feel like they don't give a as long as he's still
>> real quick for all the ladies at the table. How many of you guys like a nerd? Raise of hands.
>> Love a nerd.
>> What the is I love I I like him.
>> Can we define nerd?
>> You have a definition for So, so please who here Clark?
>> Let me let me define it quickly for them. It's someone that has um you know unorthodox interests maybe in comic book, anime, video games. Fair action figures.
>> I feel like it's actually kind of a trend now. So, the word nerd nerd is kind of a loose term
>> and is engaged in things that would traditionally be considered
>> looser partaken. When she says nerd, she talking about she talking about Clark Superman [ __ ]
>> Raise raise a Star Wars.
>> Raise your hands. How many of you like nerds? Just give me So, how many of you like nerds? Okay.
>> And they stay home and they play their video games.
>> All right. So, let me just show you guys real quick. When women say they like nerds, this is what they're thinking of. Uh, let's pull up the picture real fast.
>> Okay. When when when
>> do you mean when women let me explain cuz I I want the audience to understand this cuz men like actually believe what women say at face value. And I'm here to describe to you guys like this is what I mean.
>> When a girl thinks of a nerd, she's thinking of like Clark Ken on the left. But the real nerd is the on THE RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT ONE'S CUTE.
>> What am I trying to say?
>> I'm like a nerd. And then you get them in the gym and you upgrade them.
>> I like that.
>> Maybe you don't like So again, you just put them right again. He just showed every one of my exes is scrawny and they've all got glasses. So please don't say anything. What's she saying is you like a nerd that's already built up.
>> I just said no. All my exes are skinny.
>> But you just said put him in a gym.
>> Yes. Get them to work out with you like though.
>> No, it is a nerd that No. No. I would never want to. I'm going to fall in love with the person that he's trying to get him to get muscles
>> because if he wants to listen, if I'm dating,
>> there's nothing wrong. There is nothing wrong. In a relationship, you are supposed to benefit one another. So all your bodies honest like look I didn't really majority of them I can't even talk about my because he's someone online but the one thing I loved about him was watching all of the Star Wars sagas and being able to talk about it and going depth into it but whatever it's not I'm the girl that just engages with I just engage with it I'm not I don't console real quick just for the audience that's watching Uh, gentlemen, like when girls say nerd, I want you guys to understand when they say nerd, they're not thinking of you. They're thinking of Clark Ken on the left. They're not thinking of the guy on the [ __ ] right. Like, I need guys to understand like women always assume attraction when they say I like this guy.
>> I date such ugly men. Like, I'm so sorry. I did ugly guys.
>> Hold on. Hold on real quick. You have a question? In regards to the gym, does it not like almost give you the ick if you have to kind of like tell them to do it themselves rather than rather than
>> No, I would like I like teaching.
>> He's going to benefit me in his ways and I'm going to benefit him in my ways.
>> It doesn't give me the ick. Imagine if you didn't know how to read
>> like majority of society nowadays and your boyfriend's with you every day teaching how to read. Imagine if that gave him the call. That's not the equivalent though. Like the
>> But it is the equivalent because you're looking at it in a woman's perspective to a man. It is the equivalent.
>> But it just seems like you like want to change like what they're coming to.
>> If he told me I actually hate the gym and I love my physique this way, I'd say, "Babe, that's you."
>> No, you won't.
>> Okay. Yes, I would. I've dated the I dated all my exes are in the I've never cheated in my life.
>> Here's the problem. And and we'll go back to the
>> I would never cheat video. There's a good amount of traumatized women
>> who just want a man that they can control. And that's the nerd. You're trying to build this man to be something to fit a narrative that he can never fit. Cuz if that was the case, he would have already been doing the things that was necessary to get you.
>> Not a lot of people have motivation if they don't come up from an upbringing of going to the gym or knowing how to train. just going to go to a
>> Every [ __ ] guy knows how important it is to be in shape to some capacity.
>> Yeah. So some push.
>> No, but it's not a push. You're not the push. You're not the push.
>> So you're saying women don't motivate you in some sort of way.
>> No, no, no. What I'm
Saying is the woman that if it takes a woman to motivate a man to be better, he was never a man to begin with. He was a male. And that's the woman I mean, that's the man that the woman like yourself tend to go for because that's the one that you can control. That's the one that you can own. That's the one that you can manipulate. That's the one that you can literally feel the safest with because he has no dominance over you.
No, I actually like a man that can put me in my place. Thank you very much.
No, he's absolutely, absolutely put me in his place. He's not real quick. You have a question? Uh,
No. I have something to say.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what a man does or doesn't do.
A female, never happy.
At the end of the day,
Say it again. Say it again.
Say, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what a man does or doesn't, we're never satisfied at the end of the day.
I like the end part, but let's do it again, but let's say it right. Uh, it doesn't matter what a man does or doesn't do.
Yeah, that. There you go. Oh, she missed skin.
I feel like maybe I should drink some tequila. Maybe that would make the episode.
I need some.
You know, it's just interesting because, uh, look, um,
I'm going to be very honest about this. Um,
Sure. I, I, you're saying, "Look, I can train a guy and take him to the gym with me, but that's going to become taxing and you're going to lose attraction for him over time because it's a man's duty to be stronger than you, to be able to protect you."
If you have to be the one to bring him to the gym to train, like he's not handling his masculine performance. So, you're going to lose attraction for that. So, that's like, and and this is why again, I don't mean to be, this is why I don't take you guys seriously. This is why I don't take anything seriously when women talk because you guys live in a facade. You guys wear makeup, wear heels, extensions, eyelashes. Like nothing about your life is real. No one knows when you guys are on your period. It's all deception. It's all feminine mystique. And that's, that's what makes you guys attractive, that we don't know. A lot of you weren't comfortable sharing your body counts. That's a big part of the feminine mystique, right? You cover yourself up. You don't show interest. You're supposed to play hard to get, all these different things. So, I understand that you guys have a vested interest with not being honest about what you're attracted to and especially what you're aroused by because they're not politically correct. But, um, this conversation has proven what I've always said. Women will say what they're like, what they like, but they'll never admit what they're actually aroused by and respond to favorably. Right? You're never going to admit that you want a guy that has other women. You're never going to admit a guy that tells you to shut up when you're being annoying. You're never going to admit that you want a guy that's strong, can pin you down whenever, you know, you guys are having sex. You'll never admit these things because then we, you would have to come to the conclusion that like we're, like you don't want that. It's here, told you guys that you're equal to us, but in reality, you're not. And you guys want it that way, but since we live in this clown world, right, we have to create this facade that we're all equal and that, you know, we're the same and everything, but you guys are not attracted to that. You don't want no pencil neck nerd. I already know she wants a Clark Kent. I knew that before.
I've dated. I date. I have a specific type, actually. So,
Yeah, let me ask you. How long did that relationship last where you were dragging into the gym? How long did that last?
Four years.
Okay. Why did the relationship end then?
Um, I actually, oh, how'd you?
Um, I, well, he didn't have a job for eight months at the end of our relationship and spiraled into a depression.
Interesting.
And I went manic, absolutely nuts because he was gambling on fights instead of working. Um, and then I was working and training every single day because I used to do bodybuilding. So, I was training in the gym in the morning and then I was working because I had a very, I was busy with work. I had a lash technician company in the bottom of our house. And one day I just snapped. I was buying all the groceries and all I asked for. No, I wasn't mad that I was doing it because I bought him his laptop to learn trading. I bought him his phone and all I wanted was groceries in the house. I have no problem doing this. He took care of me. He helped me start my business. And after eight months, it's not, bro. It's actually really sad what I did. Um, until this day, I actually look back at it and it's probably one of the largest regrets that I have.
Perfect example of like social constructs don't adhere to reality. You live in Vancouver, Canada, a very liberal, progressive area where you know, you know,
I live on the conservative side of Vancouver. Thank you very much.
Okay. But you're still,
No, I live, no, I'm a cowgirl. I live in the, I live in the conservative side.
Okay. If you were, if you were a conservative, you never would have dated a guy that doesn't make money and,
Actually made a ton of money and he lost his weekend and doesn't go to the gym. You would have never gone with. Had a body condition called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. Have you ever heard of that? So his joints actually overlubricate and if he trains, his muscles would extend. So I took care of him.
Okay. So I'm a disease. Fair.
No. Don't say that.
Like it's, look, the reason, the reason why you got frustrated and you snapped is because your natural female imperative cannot be with a guy that isn't decisive and not a decision maker and a provider. So of course, like you can only take so much. You might tolerate more than a regular girl, but the bottom line is is that, um, you're not going to be able to sit there and provision for a man long term. Most women can't do it. Every girl has a breaking point and you had yours.
No, I, I, what I did was wrong. So I took the accountability.
Why were you able to use wrong?
Why was I able to do wrong?
Yeah. If you know that this is the right guy,
Because I had terrible friends that influenced me to make the wrong decisions.
See, every time you talk, I hear somebody else is the problem.
I'm not sure if you're telling what you actually hear someone else or you trying to tell. Stop talking. I'm sorry.
No, I'm actually saying that you blame everybody but yourself.
No, no, no. I did. I, what I did was wrong. I, what I did was completely wrong, but I had a lot of, you know, when you have like girlfriends saying, "Leave your ex. Leave your ex." And as a girl, you're, no offense, but you're [ __ ] when you've got bad influences around you.
So, so listen.
I've been in a relationship. True.
No, it's true. I listened to my girlfriend. Uh, I was 23 years old, 22, 24 years old.
How long were you? Four years.
So, 21 to 24 or 24 to 28?
I was dating. No, no, no. I was dating him from till 24. I left at 24.
So my question is,
Mhm.
You almost got,
My little frontal lobe.
My question is this.
My frontal lobe, guys. It's my frontal lobe.
My question is this. Um, what did you tell your friends to make your friends say you should leave him? They actually didn't think that I was going to leave him. And then when I,
That's not my question. Say again. No, I told you.
What did you tell your friends? No, no, no. I'm going to say it again because I don't want the run.
What did you tell your friends about your relationship or your man that made your friends say, "Hey, I want to protect your interest. You should leave him."
I told them too much.
Oh, it's not my,
I told them too much.
Okay, let's say it one more time, but let's get more specific.
I told them too much about my problems. Whenever I was fighting, I was going to my girlfriends. Whenever there, there was a,
What was the biggest problem that you told your friend?
So,
Your biggest problem that you told your friends that he wouldn't take you on dates and your friend's advice was,
Yeah. My friend's advice was my best friend, who's no longer my best friend, said that I'm going to say a different name. That sounds like my ex-fiancé, Tyler, and you don't want to be in a relationship like that and end up like me. And which made me, you know, really think about things. And obviously, I just, I, I honestly trusted the wrong people with my best interests and advice coming back to me. I told them too much.
So layered. This is layered, guys.
It is layered.
Um,
What you're saying is this. You're telling me that your friend gave a personal example based on a situation that you're having,
And then you took their personal example and said, "Hey, you know what? I don't want to be like you. So I'm going to leave the relationship I'm in because I'm not going on dates."
Mhm.
And I was 23. So, six years later, you're sitting here saying that you regret it.
Yep.
Correct.
Absolutely.
All right. So my question to you, my final question to you is,
At what point do you say, "I need to be an adult and make decisions for myself and stop sharing my experiences with others who are not in a position that I want to trade lives with?"
Oh, you didn't hear me?
No, I did. I, no, I, no, I heard. I thought you were going to continue after that relationship. After that whole event in my life, I really realized.
So, you're telling me that at 29 years old, I just want to make sure I understand. I like to learn.
Right?
Well, when you're done with this, I have, I have a, I, I think I have something to say. It's a change of subject, but I have something I, I think could be some good content.
All right. So, all right. Quick question. So, from here on out, so you already made the mistake at 18 to 21. You were addicted. Now you went from 21 to 24 with a good guy, great guy, and made a big mistake.
So now you're telling me from here on out, you know better.
Um, here on out, it's not that I know better because I don't know better. I don't think anybody knows how to make proper mistakes like how they make proper things in their life like accidents do happen. But I am very cautious now on who I spend my life with. I've been single for a hot minute. So,
Now here's a real question. Do you deserve better? Do I deserve better than him?
Do you deserve better than what you had?
No.
No. Exactly. You deserve less.
You deserve a short. I deserve, I deserve, I deserve what I put out. I deserve what I put out. I think I'm going to be honest. I think he is the best that I would have ever gotten.
Um, the way he was and the way he took care of me. And I don't know, especially now that I'm hitting 30, the demographic is coming true. Um, I don't know if I will find that again. I speak about it. I was,
Are you going to lower your standards?
Um, I actually am really realistic with my standards. I don't expect a guy to like, I'm not like the whole, a guy needs to make 100k a year. I'm actually really, I am very reasonable with guys. I understand it's a very small percent.
I, okay.
That's fair. You deserve a different type of man. You know,
You deserve a,
I just want, no, I just want a man that loves. I want a rel, I want a happy marriage. It's not that it's, I just want to have,
You, I will say for you,
I had, I had another thing to say. I have another thing to say after this, but I will say, uh, if you are a single female, I really recommend looking up the ratio of your city. This is something I rarely hear talked about, ratio theory. I'm from San Diego. In San Diego, there's 125 single men for every 100 single women. We call it Man Diego. That has one of the most skewed ratios in the country. In San Diego, a girl can be mid and date a, get married to like a Navy Seal Chad. The couples that I see in San Diego are piling. You got alpha male Chads who make good money and they can't get a coffee date at church. There's not enough women. All the women are taken or their standards are so high because they just, I don't know, they're they're used to have. Oh, look. Look. It's even worse than 138 single men from San Diego.
Yeah. Well, well, you're, if you're a woman from San Diego and you're single and you claim you don't want to be single, that's on you. There is nothing easier than to be a woman in San Diego and get a man. You go out downtown, you go out in Pacific Beach, you go out basically anywhere. The bars, the bars in San Diego are at least 90% dudes everywhere you go. That song by Tupac, California knows how to party. That's a lie. California is the least party place you've ever seen. There's just way too many dudes.
And then it's made even worse. You go out to the bars and the dudes that are at the bars single. A lot of them haven't been had sex in years and years and years. And you can smell the desperation in the air. A sausage party is just like humiliating.
But what if I don't want to go out alone? What if I'm scared to go out alone?
A,
Take a friend. Take a friend with you.
But like, what if I don't want friends?
Make a friend. These are not hard. Uh,
I'm saying like, you can't just tell me go out and meet men or whatever and be by myself. Like, what if I'm going to get,
What? Just get on a dating app. However, and they pinch.
It's not. I just want,
If you, if you can't get a man in San Diego, you can't get a man anywhere.
So, I, I would guess that you're lying and you're actually not trying to get a man or I don't know what's going on, but if if you're a single woman looking for a man,
If you can't get one in San Diego, you cannot get one anywhere. Um, so that's what I say. And now to now to the single men, if you live in San Diego or really the entire West Coast has a surplus of men and then the entire East Coast has a surplus of women. So if you're a young man living in San Diego, you're in the most competitive dating market in basically the whole country. My recommendation for young men is to move to the East Coast. South Carolina is a great place to live. In Charleston, South Carolina, it's something like three single women for every one single man. I'll see couples in, uh, South Carolina where it's like a fat, there's memes about it, like a fat guy, a fat white guy has a hot girlfriend and I'll see that frequently in South Carolina. That same couple, if that girl lived in San Diego, she could date a Navy Seal. She can have whoever she wants. If that guy lived in San Diego, he would be an incel.
Dudes who are incels on the West Coast could get girls fairly easily on the East Coast. So, I want to, yeah, shout out ratio. I call this ratio theory and makes a huge difference. When I was 23 years old, I moved from San Diego to Charleston, South Carolina. And, uh, I, I killed it with the girls in South Carolina. Whereas in San Diego, I'm just like short and annoying. But in South Carolina, I, I've done great. He's speaking from experience. You have to take into account. No, you have to take into account that these girls want to date military guys because like they're going to be,
It doesn't have to be men. No, there's plenty of non-military. There's every type of guy. There's every type of guy and they're tall, too. Guys are taller.
Guys are taller.
Employment or whatever. Like,
What's the, um, a lot of girls don't want that. What's their education level? That's fine. There's other options. I'm just curious.