Venus transits to natal Saturn

All right, so when we have a Venus transit to Saturn, we have seriousness within relationships in general. It's what we're always looking at: commitment and, uh, adjustments when it comes to what we owe, typically within a relationship or within a commitment. And it's not party time, but we can get things done in terms of advancing relationships in a serious way.

So when we're looking at the hard transits, which are the conjunction, the square, the in-conjunction, the opposition, we are going to be looking at a certain amount of separation or loneliness. That doesn't mean that we will become officially separated, but it's possible. Sometimes it's a, a repair of a separation, particularly with the opposition. But, um, we are potentially committing to something or developing something that is very meaningful, stable, and consistent.

So as we're looking at the Venus transits to the planets, have you noticed that Venus transits to planets signify a type of relationship that can start, and the type of themes within existing relationships that we're dealing with from, you could say, implantation, conjunction, to fruition results, opposition? So it's just so important to look at that. Every time Venus, an aspect transiting Venus, makes an aspect to any planet, it is signaling some kind of cyclical action that's happening in relationship with others, and relationship with money, self-esteem.

So the conjunction, um, um, to Saturn of any kind from any planet, or Saturn makes an aspect to himself, it's always some kind of test that we're receiving. So we have a test of loyalty with the conjunction. We're in an existing relationship, a test of commitment, a test of stability. Uh, it, so it's a stress test. We have a certain amount of pressure that is put on the relationship, or that we're feeling. And then how we handle that, how we shoulder that, how we respond to that, how the relationship holds up under that, the result that we see tells us what we really got.

So this could be a transit that, if we're in a highly Neptunian relationship, this is going to bring an event related to seeing what is really the case when it comes to what we've got here. Not what we'd like to see, not what we're hoping it might turn into if we just hang on or hope that the other person changes, but what have we actually got here? It can make things very apparent. That's why we don't like Saturn because he makes things obvious. Yeah, it keeps us safe. That's what the obviousness does. It doesn't let us exist in a fanciful illusion or pad ourselves with ideals.

Um, so much reminds me of my mother. I was growing up and I, you know, tell her a tale of, you know, the type of man I'm going to grow up married to. She'll be like, "It doesn't sound like anything I've ever heard of in reality." I'd be so mad at her because she didn't, she didn't understand. She was some old woman who had life experience. What did she know? So Saturn is that voice of reason that we don't want to hear. I know, Katie, it's the nature of Saturn, isn't it? It's the voice of reason that we don't want to hear because it makes life harder. But looking back in retrospect, I realized that it probably was the case, and we're grateful for it.

So we are establishing a certain amount of gratitude at the conjunction that we probably don't know that we're going to have because it is the beginning of clarity, and it is the beginning of the clarity regarding what kinds of truths we're going to accept and what kinds of commitments we're going to make and agree to in advance for year, for about a year's time, for the length of time that it takes for Venus to go from conjunction to Saturn to back to conjunction, because we always look at things as complete cycles and cycles within cycles, hemispheric cycles, which is a mirror of a complete cycle, and cycles within cycles.

So, uh, we're not happy, but I do think that we, uh, can become exceedingly grateful about what we find out. So there can be a feeling of separateness, a chasm that we can't cross, a, um, a feeling that we want to connect, we want to love, we want to express ourselves, but there is a reason why we cannot do that. You see this, the Sun hard transits to Saturn too. So we are acting on things at the conjunction in regards to just feeling compelled to find out the truth.

It is very possible to start a new relationship under this conjunction, and it's one that could be with somebody much older or much younger, or somebody that has a difference in maturity level or life experience. Um, it's considered a karmic connection when we have Venus transits to Saturn. We consider them to be karmic, potentially karmic relationships. Venus transits to Saturn, Venus transits to Pluto, probably Venus transits to Neptune. It's really Saturn and Pluto that we look at as karmic because there's a consequence. There's something that we are paying for or receiving, because sometimes karma is a receive for what? Well, it's, it's always a receive. It's a give and a take, action and reaction, and karma's action, and then the feedback from that. Sometimes the feedback's very good, and that might be something that's very much built in. That's the type of reward that's built in to the kind of relationship that we're beginning.

Other times, we're going to be looking at karma in terms of being foundationally present in a relationship is very difficult because of the nature of Venus-Saturn. It's, uh, something where there's a great deal of work or a feeling of, uh, of, um, inertia. You know, we, we're, we're constantly having to push against it. It's a relationship that doesn't, it doesn't necessarily have a lot of flow. Might be very rewarding, but, uh, it's going to require something of us, uh, a lot of something of us. Uh, we don't have a lot of money and resources, income. There's not a lot of excess at this time, and it makes us look at what we've got, establish what, uh, how we can best work with it, uh, how we can maximize what it is. Thinking a bit more about how we can stretch and work with what we've got.

All righty, so let's look at the sextile. I need to print up some kind of, uh, I should really think about that. Print up some kind of transits, a journal workbook, because I know I would use that. I'm sure it exists, but I mean, doing it in a way that I want to. All right, hold on. My other, my mom messed with the Starlink yesterday. She reset the password and she micro-moved the transponder, the thing that sends the signal, and now it's on. It's worse for me than it usually is. So I think we had a question. Oh, yeah. I had this one back in, uh, June. Uh-huh. Not a, not a cozy transit. I hear you, Katie.

So when we're looking at sextiles, we're always building upon the conjunction. We're building upon what was planted because we look at aspects in terms of complete cycles. And sextiles are where we are working with, uh, with others. They are cooperative aspects. So we're building on what was planted at the conjunction. If we made a commitment, uh, we have renewal, restart when it comes to finances, relationships. Sometimes it's a recommitment to how we esteem ourselves and what we're going to put up with. With the conjunction of Venus to Saturn, we can really be taking stock of what is our boundary, what is it that we want and desire, but what, uh, what at what cost? So we can be building on that.

Even at the sextile, relationships that began can be very useful. We can start a significant romantic relationship, but it is one that is marked by a similarity in, uh, goals. It's very grounded, and we can have other things going on. We could, you know, have some hot transits going on at the same time, like could signal a good amount of attraction. But this, this in itself puts us in a mindset where we're looking at all the factors, not just looking at the muscle, we're looking at, uh, the brains, and we're looking at what someone really has to offer, what do they really bring to the table. So we aren't as concerned about, with concerned with what is skin deep. It's like, what, what is really in common? What is useful? What am I going to get out of this? So it is a, a rather strategic transit to start a relationship.

But that doesn't imply that it's going to be a contractual only type of relationship. We're just in a right mind when it comes to, uh, I think risk versus reward, and making a better choice, and we usually would in terms of what do we really think is going to be able to work out. Uh, we are cooperative with others. We can feel like, uh, others have good things to offer. We're not closing out others' ideas. We're not closing out what, uh, what might enhance our life when it comes to finances, what, uh, what kind of advice that we, advice that we seek. It's, it's going to be very useful. Hold on. All right, advice that we seek is going to be very useful. We are looking to who might know more than us and who actually has experience. So we're drawn to practical knowledge and to get advice and seek out companionship and to surround ourselves because sextiles are very cooperative and they are social transits to surround ourselves or connect with people to connect with people that have been there and done that. So we are not interested in getting advice, you know, from people that have theories. We want people that have failed and know how to avoid it or what to do with that. So some very good things, very useful things that can happen for us. Uh, we can really solve a lot of problems with this sextile. We can be willing to look at what has been building up in relationships or in our financial life that is starting to put pressure, um, on us. They're starting to build distance, things that can could result at as in separation or in a feeling of, you know, not being as connected as they would like to be. So we have an opportunity to solve those things, um, because we're a bit, uh, you know, more likely to just accept what what is instead of want to exist in the realm of what should could be. So we're very, we could find very useful solutions to problems in different areas of life.

Sorry, Jewel, did you say that, um, you're more likely to accept what is rather than what should be? Is that what you said? Yep. Okay. Yep, yep. We don't, uh, we, we don't see a lot of usefulness in what should be, I think, because we're just ready to to deal. So there's, you know, a groundedness that's there. And I think often too, with Saturn, we're just at our wits' end. We're like, "Just let's just clear the board," because it does have that square aspect to it, you know, the closing square aspect to it. Saturn. All righty.

Uh, let's look at the square. So this is one of the lonelier transits that we can experience. Uh, a lot of times we can feel like we want to get a point across, we want to solve something, we, we want to to bring something to a conclusion or a resolution, but there's blockages to doing that. So where we, we're so effective at the sextile, uh, we can be wrestling at the square, and we may succeed in making some amount of progress, but there's usually something that is unresolved to some degree that we might get to resolve at the trine. Uh, um, so there's a, a certain amount of stress, uh, avoidance, difficulty, you know, when it comes to, you know, wanting to to deal with something, but often not having the, we, we, we, we have a problem, but we don't have. So we have a problem, but we may not have the, the tools to solve that yet. We may not have the ability to solve that yet. We may not be equipped to solve that yet. So there's a certain amount of helplessness, I think, that we're dealing with that has us feeling unable to connect, or, you know, we can't connect, um, intimately in the way that we want to. So we've identified some problems. We may be able to make some progress, but there isn't a total resolution. Money is tight, feelings are tight. Uh, we can feel like we, we don't want to confront things, or we may know that we need to confront things, but we don't. We just don't have the reserves to do that. So there, there is a certain amount of procrastination that we're dealing with at the square here between Venus and Saturn. So we're having to work through some inertia. That means things aren't flowing. Things don't flow with the square. With hard aspects, there's a type of dam that we're having to work through. So squares are like we're a salmon, and we're working our way up the rapids or the salmon ladder at the dam. And the more that we work at it, the more that we apply ourselves, the more we put our back into it, the more we master that, that problem, that that condition, we, we build the strength. And so we are building, uh, some amount of value. And that could be through taking stock of seeing what we have, what to us. We did that very carefully at the conjunction because we had less coming in, less abundance, less love, less commitment, less, um, flow. And we experience that again at the square. So we look at what's important to us, what do we really value, and what would, would we like to build upon? At the square, we may lose attraction for certain things because again, what it is that we want to commit ourselves to, what we find valuable in terms of what we're committing ourselves to, we might be reassessing that. So we can see some breakups or distances or separations as we're taking another look.

All right, so that brings us to the Trine. I have a date with Prince Eric on the day that I have the Trine. So I'll be looking so forward to this one. Nothing to complain about with the Trine. So we know the trines indicate flow, ease, and we've seen in the series of Venus transits that when we have Venus trine, whatever it brings an exceedingly good and often blessed and successful relationship opportunity. We saw that with the Venus trine to Jupiter last week. We see this with the Venus trine to Mars. We see this with trines in general. Thank you. I'm liking this dude. Nice guy, sexy guy. Oh, he does look like Prince Eric too, actually. Right now, he just happens to have that haircut.

So there is, um, there is a good combining of past and future when we are looking at trines and what trines bring because we have a perspective. Trines very much describe the ninth house and Jupiter and the ninth, and and Jupiter, uh, particularly in Eastern astrology and Vedic astrology. Trines are, that's where we find our joy. That's why they, they're so focused on the ninth house. What's called the D9, the ninth divisional chart in Vedic astrology, that's what they always look at first to determine relationship potential, because it's your fortune. The ninth house is your fortune. Jupiter's our fortune. So this is why we associate trine, and by quintiles also, over the, the ninth house as fortunate aspects, fortunate transits. Venus is a fortunate planet. So in particular, when Venus makes a trine, Venus trine to a Sun, Venus trine to whatever, it's an exceedingly good relationship opportunity and something that typically results in success.

So when we have the trine from Venus to Saturn, relationships that begin, that because it's a, well, it's opportunity, so opportunities that come into our life, relationships, financial opportunities, partnership opportunities, educational opportunities, creative opportunities. What comes into our life and what we choose to commit ourselves to is almost assured success. That doesn't mean that it will last forever and ever and ever. It may have a shelf life, but it is a successful commitment or venture or opportunity because we have a very good mindset regarding what do we want in terms of commitment, the long-term, and the relationships specifically, whether they be romantic, and frequently, frequently they are, but it could be business relationships or friendships, relationships that we commit ourselves to or bring into our life, that we specifically consummate. You know what I'll be doing? That we specifically consummate on this date, soulmate unions. That doesn't mean that we're going to be together forever and ever because, you know, Jewel likes to take things for a test drive before they get too serious. So we'll see what happens. But these are usually very, very good, beneficial connections that are stable, that are commitment-worthy, that we've entered into using both hemispheres of our brain. So for that reason, they have a very good chance of success. So this is a really good thing to put on your calendar, is a trine from Venus to Saturn when it comes to beginning new relationships, and also partnerships that involve finances, that involve business, that involves exchange of money and trust, because the relationships that we begin have a high degree of trust built into them in the at the foundation.

So if we're in an existing relationship, this is when we can make some really good strides when it comes to figuring out what kinds of commitments are beneficial for both of us and renewing our commitments because we can solve problems extremely well. We can come up with solutions. We are willing to meet the other person where they are without sacrificing our own needs or our own position or our own worth. You, so the way that we're viewing what it is that we deserve and what we're willing to sacrifice for and give to and and go the extra mile for, and turns a relationship the way that we're thinking, it just results in the best commitments and opportunities. So put this one on your calendar. Look at it twice a year.

So that brings us to the opposition, which is not the happiest week of the year, but it is a rebalancing, specifically at what we may have entered into at the conjunction, what kinds of ideas started to implant within our mind or, uh, come out through our behavior, what kind of cycle was begun when Venus was conjunct to Saturn in terms of our values and what's realistic. All that is coming to fruition. We're seeing the results of that at the opposition of transiting Venus to natal Saturn. So we are often times apologizing, we are reestablishing a commitment. We might be eating some crow in terms of how we might not have lived up to our end of the deal or our commitments, or calling somebody else out. It can be a very, um, isolating, sometimes humiliating few days in our life, and we're looking at, you know, feeling like, "I really want to connect, or I really want to explain myself, I really want to make progress," but, um, I don't have the resources. And it is actually best if we don't, and usually we won't make that leap, we won't make that apology, we won't make that call or that connection or solve that problem until the days after this opposition has peaked. So, um, it's just so, there is an urgency, there is a loneliness. We may not have all the pieces that we need, and that contributes to this, um, you know, this feeling of just unfinished business that we can't fix. We can't fix things during the days that this is going on, but just wait until it's peaked. The days after, the week after, you will be able to restart. You will have an opportunity. You'll have enough, uh, information. We're lacking courage, I think, and, and, and I think that there's just a feeling of being poised, but just not having, you know, the timing is off. The timing is off. So it's actually not a great, um, time to begin a brand new relationship. Sometimes we can't, but usually, usually it's going to be a readdressing, or a restart, or a relook, or a renewing, or sometimes a, a rewiring, or an apologizing when it comes to what's already happening, what's already going on in our lives, something that, you know, a commitment that's already there, or something that we revisit. Sometimes it can be a relationship with somebody that we have known, and it can be a starting, but it, it involves karma. It, it actually involves a karmic, um, a debt of some type, or something that we are renegotiating, or repaying, or taking, or reestablishing. That's why we, we, we associate it more with what's already in motion.

All righty, so do I have any questions? Um, yeah, Jewel, what if you have this in the natal? Well, then you're goddamn lucky. That is a really good done. Okay. You froze with you looking like totally surprised by that talk. Um, you're lucky. That is a really good way to associate love and money and, you know, self-worth, um, and to see yourself as automatically more as automatically high value. With the opposition? No, the, no, no, no. I thought you said the trine. Oh, no, no. I meant the opposition because the opposition sounds, uh, uh, really bad. Yeah, the opposition. The difficult aspects between Venus and Saturn in the natal are not easy to deal with. No. With, there is a questioning of our worth and of our value, and we tend to underassess ourselves.

Well, so, you know, when you said that, um, uh, you know, the only reason I ask is because you said with the opposition specifically, I'm assuming it's the case with all the hard aspects to a degree, but that you won't be able to, you know, you should kind of, you don't feel equipped to deal with the things that you want to deal with. So if you have that natally, what, you just have this problem all the time that you're just like, "There are loads of things unsaid, unfinished, undone," and you're just like, "Well, I want to solve them, I want to address them, but I just can't." So you never do? Well, I, for most people, makes them intensely hypergamous. We wrestle with an overblown, you know, sole idea. We're going to solve our problems through hypergamy, marrying up, finding our value, establishing our value through commitment or through somebody outside of ourselves valuing us or building status outside of ourselves. So with the opposition, we, we do want to solve a lot of our problems by marrying up or by earning in such a way where, you know, we prove ourselves materially. So there is a lack of belief in our, you know, our intrinsic value, and that's what we're learning to build is, you know, realizing that. And then to people with Venus hard aspects, have a really hard time walking away, you know, once they get involved materially or establish a commitment. Moon-Venus aspects to Saturn, hard aspects, um, we tend to lower our value, we tend to be taken for granted because we first of all sell ourselves short, marry down, date down, because it's safer. And or sometimes in men, they can marry, marry high up and then be needy into giving, and, you know, the woman will lose attraction for him and won't appreciate him. There's a lot of shame involved in that. So first of all, we lack discernment when it comes to our, uh, sexual market value. We'll make the wrong choice, then we'll lower our value through, uh, an improper behavior of give and take, and, and usually will give too much with the hard aspects, or it's inappropriate the amount of give and take. Uh, we give, give, give too much, particularly with the, uh, in conjunctions. And then, then we can go from alternately demanding to to giving or to self-effacing. With the opposition, you're just generally stingy, and isolated. With the square, uh, yeah, with the conjunction too, but they all represent an idea of safety through transactional relationships, safety through transactional.

Okay. Uh, okay, fine. Um, so are you saying that the men are more likely to, um, marry up, and the women are more likely to marry down? That's very common. Yeah. Very. It's not every time. Yeah. Not every time. Well, um, uh, if you, sorry, this is the last, but there's an imbalance of some kind, you know, on one, one side or the other. Uh, but if you're trying to, um, establish, you know, uh, your worth through these external environments, then why, why would you marry down? It's safer. You know, nobody's going to leave you if they hold you in higher esteem, okay, because they know that you hold that, that you have more status, right? You just have a higher value, usually because of how you think of yourself. And typically, the one that thinks the most of themselves is the one that is going to walk out for the right reasons. Yes. That doesn't mean we have a narcissistic idea that I'm going to walk out to gain power or control or to traumatize you or something. No, I'm going to walk out because I don't deserve this. Yeah. That's typically the one that. And, and both of us can suffer if it's an extremely codependent relationship. Neither one of us may be willing to do that, but the one that can do that is the one that's got the other one by the balls. Yeah. One has more power in the relationship. Um, and we, with the hard aspects from Moon or Venus to Saturn, typically suffering with being too loyal, or the idea of being too attached, or too committed, or too this, or to that, or too responsible to be able to sever that tie and to establish or punctuate our worth. So, um, yeah, women will often, especially women, you know, with the hard aspects, especially the in-conjunction between Venus and Saturn, it's the absolute worst one, I think, to have. They're usually very materially successful women, you know, high-earning women, you know, but and then they want a high-value, high-earning man, you know, guys that are already attached, guys that aren't available, guys that don't have a car, guys that, you know, are lacking the ability to give them any kind of real commitment. They're getting stuck in situationships or friends with benefits, because that's all affirmation of what she thinks she can get and what she thinks that she deserves. So with men, we tend to find women, you know, who are much higher earners, or that have a lot more, um, stability, that are, especially Moon hard aspects of Saturn, oh God, but Venus hard aspects of Saturn too, find, you know, women who have got it together, and that he just because he is feeling like he's the server, he's underappreciated, he's emasculated in some way by that. So he's committing himself to, especially the in-conjunction between Moon or Venus to Saturn, a man's chart, you know, he'll get with a woman who's like a business, she's got it together, she's, you know, she's, you know, a high earner, she knows her priorities, she knows what she wants, and, um, he feels like he can't do anything right. He doesn't, she, he, he gives, gives, gives, and there isn't an establishment of his worth. He is by nature taken for granted in whatever relationship he finds himself in, and that will happen if the person that you're with thinks that you have no boundaries, limits, you're a giver, and you'll just be there for whatever. So it's the idea of unconditional commitment, right? Do you know what my condition? My my commitments are decidedly conditional. How do you like that? I'm 49 years old. What the seriously? Seriously. No, young people like, "Oh, I'll be with you forever, no matter what, whatever you love, I love too." Really? Really? Give it six months. No, no. You know what? My commitment, it hinges on behavior. If the behavior isn't there, neither is the commitment. Yeah. Everything you're saying reminds me, that's what we don't get with these hard aspects to Saturn. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. Oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry. Uh, I think it was just a timing issue. It just, um, reminded me of when you went over Will Smith's chart. That was in Will Smith's chart and, oh God, yeah, yeah. The dude, we saw that. We looked at the next chart too, the, the other celebrity too, was caught in the same type of situation. I remember they both had Moon, I'll have to look back in the charts, but they both had Moon in conjunction to Saturn. Say, oh, wasn't it Brad? Maybe it was Brad Pitt who had the conjunction. I don't remember. One of them. Oh, Brad Pitt. Yeah. We're going to, I'll have to look back. I can find it, but it's the same story. But yeah, Will Smith, I mean, perfect example. Yeah. You know, high-earning, successful guy that is determined to maintain this extremely humiliating commitment to a woman who's got it all together. And if he would stand up to her, which she wants more than anything, that woman wants a weapon. She wants it so bad. Oh my God. You want to see a woman turn her vagina faucet on? She would go crazy. Yeah. If he were to get extremely, um, assertive. I completely, I completely agree with you because, um, watching her in action, it almost seems like, you know, her mind is going like, "Oh my God, how much do I have to humiliate this man?" I know. Perfect trauma bond. They keyed in exactly to what each other's problem is. She needs a guy that's going to beat her down in order to get her to submit because she's that much of a bitch. And he needs to become so okay with any, with walking away from any woman at any time, at any stage in that relationship, if she is not appreciating him and respecting him. And if he were able to do that, they would both get exactly what they're looking for. But they're trying to teach each other. And it's probably, they have a trauma bond that it's very similar to what I, I don't want to go there. It's, I'll go there briefly. It's what we describe is either the empath-narcissist dynamic or twin flames. Yeah. And they're very overlapping. Yeah. Yes. So it, it's this dynamic where you've hooked into each other's nervous systems in such a way where if you go through these successful separations, and during those separations, you, your, you heal yourself, and then when you come back together, you have a new opportunity. Usually, you're going to run up against more problems, and then you're going to separate, you're going to work on yourselves, and then you have an opportunity. This is how they could probably eventually solve their problems, but they never are able to break the trauma bond. They're never able to take that space where they can successfully focus on themselves and focus on their own issues related to value. And then you can come together, you have another successful chance, but if you cannot break that bond where you have that opportunity to work on yourself, you can very rarely ever have a different result in a relationship. So they're going to continue in the same cycle. Definitely, because neither one of them has the strength to have that space. Yeah. Well, but you can often see this. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. No, you go ahead. Talk. I'm going to heat up my while talk. You can see me in my jammies. I was, I was just going to say, because it's obvious, um, it's obvious that that is not even, uh, what they want to do because they spent so much time and, um, focus on bringing in, um, you know, all of these therapists, making all of these therapists famous for, um, kind of perpetuating this narrative that they have, you know, about staying together no matter what. You know, no, that's, that's how they deluded themselves. Yeah. That it's, that it's no matter what. That that comes from their natal thing. It's plugging into each other's thinking, and they never have to experience the pain of separation. And it does hurt when you're trauma-bonded to somebody, or when your nervous system recognizes somebody because that can happen right away, especially if you have really hard contacts to Venus, I'm sorry, to Uranus in synistry or in a composite chart. That's that out of the blue, that's your nerve, that's chemistry, that's not love, that's chemistry in your nervous system recognizing somebody. You're, you're familiar to me. Yeah. And sometimes that, that can be a good thing. You're familiar to me in a very good way of gravitating towards you. Usually, it's not. Usually, it's your nervous system recognizing something that is is more dangerous, but you're still drawn to it. Yes. Uh, I think the case with those two, it's like very Plutonic from what I remember. They had each other's, each other's Pluto is conjunct the other Sun. And then of course, they also have Sun conjunct Pluto in the composite chart too, right? Right. Yeah. No, there was, they're, they're a mess. They're individually a mess, and then they're enhancing each other's mess. So yeah. All right. Um, Avery, question. Yeah, I was wondering what happens when you have like a positive Venus to Saturn transit, but on the opposite end, you have a negative Saturn to Venus, like they're going on at the same time. Does the outer to inner take priority? The Saturn transit to Venus is going to last much, much longer. That's going to be the bigger force. The Venus transit to Saturn is only going to last days, right? So it's like the cycle and the cycle you were talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could be very interesting timing. It's much more likely that during that cycle that that Saturn is to Venus, and then Venus comes to Saturn, that makes it much more likely that we may establish a very lasting, uh, connection. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Thanks. Consequential. Yeah. Uh, YP. Um, so let's say we have natally, um, Semex to the sex, second house ruler. And so when the transit Venus is square to the natal Saturn, it's also sextile to the natal second house ruler. If that is the case, we still feel like we don't have money and we don't have the means to, uh, figure this out. Yeah, we're going to have a couple of things going on. Yeah, we'll have some of the, the lack of, of income, the lack of gains, but at the same time, we will have in the area of life that rules resources, you know, some amount of stability or success or opportunity. So that's a mitigating type of transit where, yeah, something can be coming through, but we also have some, uh, some or some some difficulty in life, but we also have some really good things going on at the same time. So it, it can make it a lot less difficult to deal with overall. And like the, the, the example that you and Tuska just talked about, the in-conjunction natally between Venus and Saturn. So let's say, um, I would guess that the conjunction between the trans Venus to the natal of Saturn will make this thing even more, just proportionally worse, right? That the natal in, uh, of sacrificing, of not getting what they really want. But then just when, like the Venus goes through, you know, a little bit later, and then become a trine to the natal Venus. With this instance, would that also help, but the, the transit Venus is still semisextile to the natal Saturn? Would that be a time, uh, to bring more perspective? I think the trine is going to be more in play. That's going to be the stronger influence during that period of time. But yeah, that's another instance that we have some amount of, you lack, um, or problem that at the same time is balanced by some incoming opportunity or some very good things. So you could look at that like, uh, you know, I don't have as much in the bank as I'd like to right now, but wow, look at all these parties I'm going to, all these friends I have, look at this abundance I have in other areas of life. So that kind of thing. Okay. And I guess, um, for you personally, that you have the perfect trine between Saturn and Jupiter. So when Venus goes to the opposition, it actually gives like an escape valve to the Jupiter. And that's nice. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, Venus where it's coming up to to be conjunct to my Jupiter and in that perfect trine to Saturn at the same time, that's one of the best weeks of the year. But I'm talking about the transit Venus and Saturn just happens to be, well, talking about, oh, sorry, you go ahead. Yeah, I was just talking about the transit Venus opposite to your natal Saturn that at the same time, SE at the same time that is going to be, um, yeah, in a good aspect to to Jupiter. So yeah, we have something that can be a little bit more difficult, but at the same time, it is, uh, usually something that brings in opportunity. So that is usually not a negative transit for me entirely at all. Okay. Wow. So yeah, you do have to look at transits in terms of something that might, that's because we can see that where a planet in transit can be making a very difficult aspect to something in our chart, but it's connecting through a really easy aspect, and that, um, will bring up the themes of the hard aspect, but it gives us solutions at the same time. It gives us opportunities. It gives us good things that can provide this automatic or easy response to that problem that's being presented. It's a hard transit, so you see. Yeah, yeah. Guess just nothing can go wrong with the trine that, um, just, it's just no matter how you, how you look at it, it's just always bring, I mean, natally, if you have a trine, then then whatever hard transit that comes, it's always, um, some sort of escape valve or some, some sort of mitigation factor that, that, that is there ready for you to solve it. So yeah, yeah, it's a given. Sometimes we just get those, you know, wind in our sails in life that we don't have to work for, and has to do with our assumptions, right? Trines, trines are big assumptions about life, positive assumptions about life, that just always seem to come true. We just don't, no question what goes on there. Has a lot to do with teaching us and illustrating how self-concept is everything when it comes to your experience of reality. It really is. Yeah. Shit. Katie, you got it. Um, yeah, that's interesting. Um, I, I have two questions. One is just a like a logistical question. I was wondering, um, are you still planning on doing that talk on the alchemical marriage? I am. I might do that next. I, I'll probably do that next week. I don't know when, but I'll, I'll announce that. I'll give you at least four days. Okay. Okay. Sounds thanks. It looks, I will. That that is, yeah, similar to, I don't know, there's just a lot of that theme coming up right now because we just had the conjunction of Venus and Mars, uh, to Pluto. So I think that's going to be one of the big thingses that we're seeing this year is that, um, I guess re-integrity for sustained commitment, the capacity for, uh, relationship. That's all we're looking at. The divine feminine, the divine masculine. You're going to be seeing those buzzwords everywhere this year because of that particular conjunction. Interesting. Um, I, I was also, were you going to say something else about it, or should I go on? I was also, um, just wanted like, uh, for those of us with hard Venus-Saturn aspects, boohoo. Um, I, I'm assuming that, um, working on your Saturn issues would go a long way towards fixing, um, um, fixing these challenges or overcoming the hurdles associated with those aspects because I have, I mean, personally, it's for me a lot of good Venus aspects, except for the square to Saturn. Yeah, yeah. We're looking at our capacity for commitment and how, yeah, how do we view that? What do we feel like we owe? Um, what do we feel like we deserve? And, um, you know, what are our material expectations, um, about commitment? What should commitment bring to us? How should it support us? Um, is something that we give to, or is it something that we are okay with receiving within? What does the so up to conjunct Saturn, you know, really just around here, uh, I think at the full moon between the new moon coming up here and the full moon, uh, yeah, it's going to be a big theme. Um, I have a question, Jewel. Go ahead. Um, so if someone were to have, uh, Venus square Saturn natally, and Neptune contra-parallel to Venus, what would that look like? Like, um, within relationships or think that we deserve it. We can feel trapped within commitments or feel unnecessary isolation within commitments because we're often not dealing with conflicts appropriately, or some amount of isolation or avoidance, or slow-growing sense of, uh, distance. But at the same time, have this intensely idealistic nature about us, or expectation about what relationships can bring us. That is the worst combination that she can have, in my opinion, the natal chart, even the contra-parallel. Okay. Well, just in general, the, no, well, yeah, because we, we'll have an opposition there. It's, they're not the easiest thing to deal with. But in general, when we have inner planets that are in a difficult aspect to both Saturn and Neptune, that could be really a hard thing to deal with because we have all of these idealistic expectations and, you know, romantic fantasies about commitment and what we want and, you know, finding the one. But then we will commit ourselves to relationships that are completely boring and beneath us, and definitely not, not what we realistically deserve. So we can have our expectation up here, you know, level 10, but then the reality could be way down here at level two. Yeah. And so the space for disappointment is just massive. Now, what is more common is, you know, somebody doesn't have a ton of Neptune, or reasonable, a reasonable amount of Neptune. They may, you know, we have an expectation, it's more like a five. You know, I'm going to get some of what I want, not going to get everything that I want, and, you know, it's, it's a good enough deal. So that the expectation is at maybe a five, and then what we find in reality is maybe a four, maybe even a six. But do you see how the space between this? We're not following 10 stories when it comes to what we think we're going to get and what we actually think we deserve and settle for in our experience? That is because the, that's a singing the Katy Perry song about falling from the high and hitting the sidewalk, and it sucks. So we want, uh, to not have too many floors to drop. And that's probably going to happen. We're probably going to drop a lot of floors. We have those such a disparity when it comes to Saturn and Neptune in our chart. You feel like a plastic bag. Yes. No, no. I think that was the other one. I think that was that annoying Firework song. That one was more, yeah, more positive. I can never forget, like I just go up to people and say, "Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?" I would know what you like. I would get it. In other words, that person is really unrealistic when it comes to the relationships that they've attached themselves to. Yeah, that's basically what we get. Hopefully, we grow out of it when life kicks the crap out of us some, when we realize that, geez, you know what? I think, and my expectations, and my thoughts, and the way I think myself up is really out of tune with reality. I better do something about that. So the degree of our suffering is the degree that we are out of tune with actual reality. That's basically, that's the basic truth. Okay. Thank you.