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هفته پنجم جنگ با بهروز یوسیان افسر سابق اطلاعات اسرائیل_شنبه 15 فروردین روز 36م جنگ

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Greetings to you. Thank you very much for taking the time to talk. How many messages are coming from Iran, and fortunately, our past week's program was seen much more through satellite. How much people are now... Well, in the first few weeks when we were talking, some people disagreed with you a little. Now that we are moving forward, they say, "Mr. Youseian was right, his words are coming true." They are just now realizing that, well, we are an impatient nation. That's why you, after all, have years of intelligence work, have a lot of patience. At first, of course, an impatient nation wants to achieve everything quickly. And now that it's taking time, they see you are right, Mr. Youseian. I don't want to waste time or talk nonsense for two hours. First of all, you entered the sixth week after the fifth week. How did you see the fifth week again? Give a summary so I can ask questions. In the fifth week, American forces arrived in the region. Mr. Trump, well, again, he extended the negotiations, if they can even be called negotiations, for a few more days regarding the American forces, with, well, that aircraft and helicopter, etc. And we will talk about the non-zalek. The economic goals of the Islamic Republic, such as petrochemicals and Mobarakeh Steel, and the non-zalek that they said the financial injection from the Islamic Republic must be taken from them, have started to be attacked. You said this in the first week. You said this in the first week, and exactly this happened. I know. I also said it on other channels like Voice of America, etc., and then I saw reactions saying my viewpoint is very extremist. But as you said, we waited, and in the fifth week, we are seeing that this is what has happened, and it will increase further. Because we will talk about it in detail now. The way they are hitting now, for example, they hit the petrochemicals. It's not petrochemicals. It's an industrial electricity area that sends power to the petrochemicals. They hit that small area to cut off electricity to the petrochemicals. It's not that they hit the petrochemicals, according to the Islamic Republic. But this war will continue, and the economic targets of the Islamic Republic will become more and more military. Now, regarding the plane that crashed, and its maintenance, I want to ask about that separately. I have estimated that there will be at least 6 months of war, and we have now entered the second month. Mr. Trump added 10 days. If we add these and stick these topics to it, Mr. Trump added 3 weeks. The day before yesterday, he said 3 weeks, "We will hit for another 3 weeks." That's 21 more days, which is exactly two full months. Even with Israel, there are still missile launches from Hezbollah. If friends follow my and your programs closely, I had said they should take southern Lebanon. Yes, it's happening, it's happening. They have no choice. They are destroying 23 villages. It has been decided that Israel will establish a 10-kilometer security belt in southern Lebanon, which is also a lie. It's useless because from northern Israel to the Litani River is about 30 kilometers by land, and about 10 kilometers by air. Between northern Israel and the Litani River, if you take it by air, it's 10 kilometers. If you take it by land, it depends on how the Israeli army advances. Israel has said it will create a 10-kilometer security belt, and that too is a mistake because it cannot create a 10-kilometer security belt when the enemy is 20 kilometers ahead. After a month, two months, three months, four months, the number of Israeli ground forces casualties will be so high that Israel will have to withdraw again, and it will be the same old story. Or they will have to push everyone out to the Litani River, which will be up to the river. Now, Israel wants to take everything up to the Litani River. Two weeks ago, you were a bit discouraged. You said they would go back and forth like a yo-yo, but I, although you are a veteran, said that the decision has been made to completely evacuate the Litani River area, and the trend is now towards that. It's not just the Israeli army, or the right-wing parties. They are lying to the Israeli people. The discussion is about them wanting to advance 10 kilometers from Israel's northern border. These 10 kilometers are 23 villages, and they have evacuated those 23 villages. They want to make this 10 kilometers a security belt. But from these 10 kilometers to the Litani River, there are still another 20 kilometers. They will take that too, slowly, slowly. They will take that too, gradually. These are the problems of the Western world, they want to deceive themselves. The discussion is that if there are Shiites up to the Litani River, the security of northern Israel will not be guaranteed. Now, up to 10 kilometers. At first, when Behrouz Youseian said it, they called him an extremist. Now that it's 10 kilometers, they say Behrouz Youseian, you are telling the truth. There is no other choice. The Middle East region has its own rules. Well, now let's move on to Iran. Let's move on to Iran. Let's move on to Iran. We want to go week by week. Politico suddenly published news that Mr. Trump is going to announce a ceasefire tonight. That Politico article was ridiculous. I was tearing myself apart at the time, saying, "It's impossible for something like this to happen." Then Trump came and said, "3 more weeks," and the next day, which was yesterday, yesterday morning, he said, "I will open the Strait of Hormuz, give me a little more time." That is, exactly what you said from the first week, that he cannot explicitly say, "I want to fight until September." He keeps moving forward, and with these wordplays and delays, he keeps pushing it forward. Why did Politico or CNN give such a strange report that half of the Islamic Republic's missiles are intact? We know that half of the Islamic Republic's missiles are not intact, because we are seeing their missile launches. I don't know if you read that Time magazine article. It was a very long article, very long. I read it all, and it painted a bleak picture of a war against Trump, saying Trump was defeated. The Pentagon is confused. They didn't think the Islamic Republic would attack Arab countries. Trump is surprised. The Pentagon is completely surprised. It just doesn't make sense to me. This atmosphere that the media has created against Trump, saying he wants a ceasefire, then Trump spoke, and give an analysis. Thank you. Look, I'm saying this for those who haven't lived in the Western world, or your sound cut out for a moment. I think it was an echo. Your sound is back. Yes, please. Between the Western world, and Israel is the same, its media is divided into two parts. One part is left-wing, and one part is right-wing. The left-wing, well, Americans, or Democrats, liberals, as opposed to Republicans. Israelis have different names. But it doesn't matter. There's a left and a right. The left is terrifyingly painting a bleak picture, saying everything is a disaster. The right is terrifyingly beautifying everything, saying everything is going great. But neither is correct. The news media have thousands of political reasons to say nonsense, whether from the left or the right. There is no ceasefire. Just last night, we saw Mobarakeh Steel of Isfahan during this negotiation period, for example. We saw the electricity of petrochemicals. On the other hand, we are seeing the actions and activities of the Islamic Republic. There is no ceasefire. This word "ceasefire" is a way out. But why is this word "way out" used? Because they want to keep the price of naphtha somewhat balanced. If all the newspapers write "war, war, war" without any reason, the price of oil will skyrocket. Therefore, there is a trend in their policies, but there is no ceasefire. The negotiations that exist, even if they do, will be completely useless. Neither from the Islamic Republic nor from the United States and Israel. So, this is the first part. The second part, what are the points in this article? Because the article has many points, let's analyze them as you see fit, according to the program's priority. Look, the article was very long, I mean, it was something strange. Time magazine, I think it was 10 pages long, but the whole point was that the Americans, this part is very important to me, the Americans didn't think the Islamic Republic would attack Arab countries, and the Pentagon is completely surprised. This is nonsense. Neither Israeli intelligence nor American intelligence was surprised at all. The point is, why is Time writing this lie? Because they want to say that the Republicans didn't know what quagmire they were getting into. I mean, all those who say it's a bleak picture, or all those who say everything is going great, bring them all down from these four pages of the Time article. There's no reason for Republicans to say everything is going great. They're just saying it. Democrats, if they say everything is going disastrously, they're just saying it. What about this CNN report? The CNN report that said half of the Islamic Republic's missiles and drones are untouched. Is that logical? Is that logical? The Israeli and American governments say 70% have been destroyed. According to media figures, 30% remain. Now you're saying you read somewhere that it's 50%. What's the difference between what the Israeli and American governments are officially saying, that 30% remain, and a newspaper saying 50%? What's this 20% difference? They are estimating. No one has actually gone into the news media before the war to count the Islamic Republic's missiles, and count them now, and check how many have been destroyed. It's an estimate. The Israeli and American governments are estimating that 30% remain. Radio and television sometimes say it's not destroyed yet. There's a 20% difference here and there. But look at the launches. You, Israel, the Islamic Republic, for years claimed that if they went to war with Israel, they would launch 1500 ballistic missiles a day, or even Hezbollah made such a claim. Now, the actual launch rate of the Islamic Republic's missiles has not exceeded 20 per day. That is, how many missiles are they launching at you daily now? If you ask the leftists in Israel, they will say, "Oh, we are terribly under fire." If you ask the rightists in Israel, they will say, "Oh, it's getting less and less every day." But if you ask Behrouz Youseian for the reality, it's between 15 to 25. For example, now we are in Eid al-Adha. The Islamic Republic knows that during Eid, they launch more missiles, meaning instead of 15, it becomes 20 to 25 per day in some places. But after Eid, the Islamic Republic will reduce those 25 to 15 again. Now, the Israeli leftists say, "Look, Israel is under missile fire." Then the Islamic Republic translates all of this Hebrew into Persian and shows it. But no one says that because of Eid, the Islamic Republic has increased its launches by 5 to 10 per day. Well, look, I had this statistic of 20, but the question is, what has been the lowest number of launches per day in the Islamic Republic in the last 35 days? What has been the highest? The average can be said to be 15. Even 15 to 20. Well, if you take the lower numbers, I'll continue your question exactly. The lowest numbers, these are the Israeli right-wingers. The highest numbers, you mentioned the highest, which is about 25. These are the Israeli left-wingers who say the average per day is about 15 to 20. Well, look, 15 to 20 is a far cry from the claim that the Islamic Republic wanted to destroy Haifa and Tel Aviv. That's why I say this is a bluff. This is psychological warfare. Or, for example, what Mr. Trump also said, that the war would end within a week. Whether you look at it from this side or that side, everyone has their own interests. This is psychological warfare, creating an atmosphere for their own interests. Regarding your statement that Israel and Haifa will be razed to the ground, let them launch 100 missiles, 100 missiles. Look, that requires 100 launchers. That means having 1000 missiles or solid fuel. Do you think the Islamic Republic has 100 missiles with solid fuel? Calculate it. Or if you take 100 missiles with liquid fuel, how many hours will it take to refuel 1000 missiles? It's not something that 100 launchers would come out with 100 missiles with liquid fuel that would take several hours to refuel. Not only Israeli intelligence, but even Afghan intelligence, even African intelligence would understand. It's not that easy. But they say it's nonsense, they want to create a psychological atmosphere. They say, well, before I ask questions about yesterday's event, which is actually changing many things, and the pilot, I'll ask that at the end of the program. But every week I have to update. From the first week, you have believed that the war will be long, at least until September. Otherwise, I think you even said in some place that you allow the war to last for two or three years. In the fifth week, it ended. Are you still sticking to your word? At least, at least the war will last 6 months. I have said this everywhere. More importantly, in these 6 months, it depends. I will return to my previous statements that friends in previous programs said it depends on whether the economic goals of the Islamic Republic become entirely military goals or not. That is, whether oil and gas, the central bank, the stock market, and the financial injection of the Islamic Republic are taken. Now, I'm not saying oil and gas must be blown up; a military attack is possible, like the capture of Kharg. The discussion is about taking away the financial resources of the Islamic Republic so that the Islamic Republic has no money to manage 90 million Iranian citizens, 8 million Iraqi citizens, Hezbollah of Lebanon, and the Houthis. No money. This is the first thing. The second thing is whether America will send forces to the Strait of Hormuz to open it and have control over it, so that the Islamic Republic cannot get money again. Will they send ground forces? These first 6 months are about what to do. But yes, I am still saying it will last at least 6 months. So, in this fifth week, the signs you saw, do they still support your opinion of 6 months or even more? You, now, we will talk about it. Now, I agree with you for the viewers who are... I am trying to challenge them, otherwise, in these matters, I agree with you a lot. Now, the forces that friends see America has sent, and the forces that are planned to be sent more, that's why Mr. Trump has again said, "We want to negotiate for another 3 weeks" with the targets that have not yet been hit, which are starting to begin, like Mobarakeh Steel, petrochemical electricity, etc., with the Strait of Hormuz that Mr. Trump says he will manage himself, which he must take. If we consider all of these, it will take more than 6 months. Excellent. Now, regarding these things that have happened in the last two days, which have moved in that direction. They said a ship will arrive in 3 weeks, but yesterday I heard from unreliable sources that another ship has already arrived near Tripoli and Boxer, which are Marines. Two more ships are coming from Japan, Rushmore and Pratial, where Rushmore seems to specialize in ground operations for the ground forces. I don't know exactly what Pratial does. The repair of the USS Grafford is finished on the island of Crete, and it is also entering the region. So, we now have 7 ships. And 4,500 Marines, as of the 31st, are on two of these ships. Boxer and Tripoli. When did they arrive? Centcom also confirmed, at least Tripoli. Centcom confirmed. A thousand airborne troops from the 82nd Airborne are coming, and we know they are rapid reaction forces, and they are supposed to take airports, etc. But America is sending 10,000 troops, some of whom are Delta Force, whom we know are special forces. A significant portion of these 10,000 approved troops are from the 75th Ranger Regiment, which are heavier ground forces. This shows that America wants to not only take control but also establish a presence. Because taking control and establishing a presence... Well, you are a military person, you can explain better. How do you see these forces? In the previous program, and we have had several programs consecutively, if America wants to win this war, it must deploy ground forces. I said that, and they said, "Oh, America is not sending ground forces," and I received so many messages. It's not worth it. America overthrew Saddam only because, in the end, it sent ground forces. It was the same in Afghanistan. It was the same in Libya. It's impossible for a war to be won without deploying ground forces. Period. Israel, whose air force is among the top 10 in the world in terms of technology, etc., and Hezbollah, a terrorist group, has not been able to surrender them solely through its air force. That's why we are talking about the Islamic Republic. We are talking about a country of 1,065,000 square kilometers. It's impossible. American ground forces must be deployed to win this war. There's no doubt about it. So, you see these forces, they are in line with them wanting to enter. Well, yesterday something happened. The news yesterday was strange. First, it was reported, forgive me, among all these names you mentioned, if from the beginning to the end, all these forces you named, you have mentioned most of them in your other programs. In your opinion, how many people are there in total? Who are the American ground forces? All these forces that America has brought or is going to bring, as far as it is being discussed, are 18,000 people. Okay. In your previous two programs, if you remember, you asked me about 50,000. You said 50,000. They will bring at least 5,000 more troops. For a hundred other reasons, they have no choice because NATO is not helping, not sending troops. There are two possibilities for the NATO troop shortage: either Mr. Trump has to bring more troops, which he is doing, or Israel has to provide more support and work harder, which it is doing. This NATO shortage must be compensated. NATO must finally get involved in the story because I saw the NATO chief say he wants to go and see Trump again. It seems they have become very active after Trump's reprimands. NATO's interests are very different because NATO is not just a military force; behind NATO are European countries. European countries are certainly not opposed to the Islamic Republic because they have many other interests. You saw France, yes, it used its veto power. Now the Islamic Republic is saying to France, "You can pass through the Strait of Hormuz, pay tribute." Now Germany, Britain, and other countries also have very significant interests with the Islamic Republic. Therefore, NATO has a lot of stories. But if Mr. Trump really wants to continue, he is fighting now. NATO is not providing troops. Therefore, Mr. Trump has to bring these troop shortages that NATO is not bringing. So far, it has become about 20,000. I said 50,000, and they will bring more. It depends on how much Mr. Trump threatens NATO, how much he sanctions NATO, whether he leaves NATO or not, which also has its own problems. The weaker NATO becomes, the more Russia and China will enter Europe or NATO and their influence will increase. Therefore, that is a separate discussion. Well, Mr. Youseian, yesterday something happened. The news first came that American forces had landed in Behbahan and one or two other cities, and ground clashes had occurred. This was in the early hours yesterday when pro-Islamic Republic websites published the news. Then, immediately, this news was deleted, and they suddenly said, "We hit an F-35." Then it became clear, gradually, that Barak Ravid and others in Axios reported, "No, this is not an F-35, it's an F-15, and two pilots are actually missing in Iran." Last night, until the very last moment, it became clear that one was rescued, and American forces finally entered Iran last night, practically after the Tabas incident and the release of their hostages in the 1980s. They rescued one pilot. They are still saying nothing about the second pilot; his status is still unknown. Last night, Fox News said he had established radio contact. However, Associated Press denied the story, saying no radio contact was established with the pilot. How was yesterday's event? Did the Islamic Republic really hit an F-15? Then they said two Black Hawk helicopters were shot down, one A-1 aircraft was shot down. Yesterday was a strange day. Please analyze yesterday separately for us. Please. First, I saw two sources. One source says F-35, and another source says a different type. There is no official confirmation of which one it is. There is a very important reason for this: if it were an F-35, it could be reverse-engineered. They would send it to Russia for reverse engineering, or they would reverse-engineer it themselves, and this would make the technology of the most important aircraft in the world obsolete, which would take the war to another stage. This is one. Second, continuing my first point, they were saying Iran's air defense was completely destroyed by the Islamic Republic. Iran's air force is in the hands of Israel and America. If that were the case, how did the aircraft fall? Therefore, there are issues that arise in the course of war. It is true that perhaps until a week ago, Iran's air force was in the hands of America and Israel, almost completely in that region. But this does not mean that in the last week, the Islamic Republic has been idle. They might have brought and installed 4 new pieces of equipment. One of their commanders said, "New weapons have arrived, we are hunting." Therefore, these discussions are not static; they fluctuate greatly. This second part, meaning that Iran's air defense might be gaining some strength in the last week, to a greater or lesser extent. In addition to this, consider Russia and China. It is true that they have not entered the war, and it is true that they do not officially support Iran, but it is currently their summer season, the season for selling weapons. They also come and say, "Mr. America, do whatever you want. Do you want war? Do it. We are sitting here. We gave our monopoly. You do whatever you want. But the market is hot right now. We want to sell weapons." The market for Russia and China is hot right now. They want to sell weapons to the Islamic Republic. They can sell it to the Islamic Republic for $1 now, or $100, because the Islamic Republic needs it. So they sell it. They won't say, "Mr. America, okay, you hit our monopoly, and we won't sell, we'll just sit and watch." Therefore, behind the scenes, these two friends are there. America comes and says, "Okay, you don't interfere, but sell your weapons, for example." So, throughout the war, no matter how much Israel and America hit, there is still a possibility that the Islamic Republic will buy weapons as much as it can and deploy them. This is the second point. The third point is the discussion about American ground forces in Iran. Again, look, if, let's assume for a moment, although it's not impossible. If the Islamic Republic captures this pilot alive, is there a possibility? Yes, it might lead to a very high psychological warfare. Therefore, ground forces must eventually go into Iran. It cannot be like this. And as you are seeing now, you mentioned it, you said a few seconds ago that America must send ground forces, and will send more. Well, if they capture the pilot, with the propaganda that the Islamic Republic will conduct and the pressure on Trump, can it end the war? No, it's impossible. The Middle East must have a master. And this war will determine who the master of the Middle East is: either America or the Islamic Republic. Now, all the people of Iran, even the supporters of the Islamic Republic who watch my program, should sit for a moment and truly think: Will America sit by and let the Islamic Republic become the master of the Middle East at the end of this game? It's impossible. It doesn't matter at what cost. It doesn't matter at what cost. The Islamic Republic will not be allowed by America to become the master of the Middle East. Especially with that view of their Imam of the Age. Therefore, if they capture him alive, the propaganda will be terrible, and the casualties will be even higher. But this will not stop the war. There is an analyst from the Islamic Republic named Sa'ad Izadi. He strongly believes that if the Islamic Republic can kill 500 American soldiers, the American system and laws will practically stop Trump from waging war. How much is this... On what basis does Sa'ad Izadi make this analysis? On what source? There are some laws in America. There are some laws in America. When the number of casualties increases, they practically stop Trump from continuing the war. Afghanistan and Iraq practically stopped the wars. I didn't get it. I want to know your opinion. Whether that pressure, that legal and human rights issue, that social pressure in America, how many casualties can stop Trump? Exactly, this is the question from the previous program. It's not about casualties at all. It's about the national interests of a superpower. The number of casualties is not important at all. Sir, the entire analysis of the supporters of the Islamic Republic, all their analysts, have two or three things: one, the price of oil goes up, the war ends. Two, American casualties increase, the war ends. Three, we put pressure on the Arabs, and they get stuck. That one has been defeated. Now they are focusing heavily on the price of oil and American casualties. One, the price of oil. Now, in ChatGPT, check how many barrels of oil America is selling. According to Reuters, America's oil price has hit a record since 2017. In March, America had the highest oil sales. This news is everywhere. America is selling now. I don't have the exact number of barrels, but I will go to the live broadcast for a moment. Just put it into ChatGPT, America's oil sales. Reuters, did it write something? I don't have it on this phone. I have it on my phone. I can't do it now. But Reuters wrote that America's oil sales are probably close to 5 million barrels per day, if I'm not mistaken. Did you get disconnected? Okay, we're back. Now, over 15 million barrels per day. 13 million barrels per day. Russia. How many million barrels of oil is Russia selling now? Russia, if it sells a lot, 2 million. God forbid. Over 10 million barrels of oil is Russia selling now. So why would Russia let the war end? Russia, after the war, the Islamic Republic, 10 million. Was it that much before or after? Before the war, it was much less because it was in Tehran. Russia, sir, has said, "Listen, brother Trump, hit the Islamic Republic, lift the sanctions on me, and I'll sell." Everyone is getting involved again. We go back to your previous program. Superpowers are benefiting from all sides. They have all agreed. They are not going to sit and chat about these negotiations you see, for example, Mr. Trump with Russia, with China. I was shocked to hear 10 million. Honestly, I didn't think it was 10 million. Friends, now on the live broadcast, or give a signal. Check. America's oil sales are very important. Because America's oil sales, when the Houthis were able to block the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, America was selling 1.3 million barrels per day. I had the news. Then it became 5.2 million. Because of the Houthis. What you are saying now, 13 million, my whole system is a bit disrupted. Let me allow myself to be disconnected for a moment. Okay, but I want to, because this is a very serious discussion. I want to check ChatGPT. My mind is a bit confused. 13 million is a lot. Even when the Islamic Republic was selling 2 million, it made a lot of money. So, after America... I know that before the Houthis wanted to block the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, it was selling 1.3 million barrels per day. Kids, 5.2 million. So, if the war with... I read on Reuters that it set a record, but Reuters didn't write that many barrels. That it's 13 million now, or 10 million for Russia, changes all the rules of the game. I'm just a bit shocked by what I just heard. Hope, currently produces between 14 to 15 million barrels of oil per day. Okay, how much does it sell? How much is for domestic use? Let's put that aside. Right now, as I'm talking to you, Saudi Arabia is going to export 8 to 10 million barrels per day. It's currently exporting 7 million, which I knew, through that oil pipeline that goes to the Red Sea. The discussion is about increasing it to 10 million. Okay. Now, put America aside with Russia. Because of this oil, who needs it? The European Union. The European Union also has NATO. Now they are coming and saying, "Mr. NATO, either you fight with us, don't you need oil? Or this Strait of Hormuz is good for you." So, what you said now, these figures you have obtained, that America and even Russia are not foolish enough to end this war, means that on the surface, this war will continue for at least 6 months. This is the minimum. Exactly. I am saying this. Forget about what the supporters of the Islamic Republic say. Forget about the excitement of the Iranian and Israeli people who want the Islamic Republic to fall. The discussion is much bigger than this. Numbers are being moved around the world that are about the interests of global superpowers. They want to see, "Look, these dry figures you mentioned, I'm completely... I always have these statistics, up to a certain point, but I don't know why I haven't gone and checked the oil sales statistics barrel by barrel. What you just said now, I am now sure that this war will continue for a long time. He's not crazy to end the war. Now, I'm only talking about oil because you mentioned it. But if you want to have more analytical programs, dedicate a half-hour program to the stocks of American war contractors. What were the stocks before the war with Iran? What are the stocks now? Next week, we will talk more about this. Stocks, the stocks that the world buys on the global stock market. For example, look at Russian oil stocks. Not oil barrels, look at the stock prices. See what gold prices are like in the world because of this war atmosphere. The discussion is that the interests of superpowers are deeply involved. This was the first part. Why? Because we are getting off topic. The point was that ground forces, and then yesterday, that plane that was hit, and if American casualties increase, because the Islamic Republic says one thing is oil money.

I am disrupting the world with oil money, which, at these figures, makes one laugh. I mean, how do they have the audacity to have their analysts on IRIB and all that, and then on the other hand, they say if America's casualties increase, the war will end. There is a problem in the Eastern system. I'll say the previous sentence again, regarding oil, let's close this topic. Regarding casualties, we will go and talk. In the Eastern system, there is a big problem that mixes everything with theology. For example, I went to Iran University for 3 years for Civil Engineering, but in Iran, I really wanted to study Political Science, but it didn't happen because the good programs were in places where my mouth and my thoughts would be killed. And then, Political Science in Iran, they also teach the Quran and theology. Political Science cannot be taught if it also includes theology and beliefs. Political Science has its own calculations, which must be done without God, Moses, Muhammad, the Quran, and theology, so that you can absorb and analyze. That's why I have always said that I am a conservative person. I am a believer myself, but for the sake of my family, wife, and children, when you go and sit in the Ministry of Intelligence or want to talk about Political Science, you must put everything aside. The discussions must be very, very without theology. Here, we are talking about barrels of oil, not God, not the Quran, not Muhammad, not Moses, not Jesus. They don't decide about barrels of oil. That's why the Islamic Republic or countries like this, their misfortune is that they bring theology into the study of materialistic transactions. Then, 2 plus 2, according to "Salavat" (prayers), must become 5 because a miracle happens. Now, they say some nonsensical things. The Islamic Republic or this branch of believers, casualties, now Trump, Trump yesterday, you wanted to go to casualties. Casualties, of course, in the negation of something else, I have another discussion because Trump tweeted. He tweeted that I will take the Strait of Hormuz and oil will gush in the world. I think he meant that. And today he said something again, who wants to have oil in their hands? He made a kind of hint, he said it in two sentences. He wants to, as much as he can, as much as there is space, his forces will reach, and through this, they will earn money for now, especially the oil sales companies in America, because they are behind Mr. Trump. The American people don't matter, those oil companies matter, because they are making a lot of profit from here. 14, 15 million, what you are saying, barrels of oil they are selling. So, Trump must now, from here, he must take his profit, Trump, of course, oil sales or oil production or anything. Then he will go towards Kharg Island to take Iran's oil too. This way, it is clear. Exactly because of these plans, I said in the first programs, I said in the end, the war situation in Iran will reach a point where America might take Kharg Island. This thing you are saying is almost impossible now. One feels that it is becoming a certainty, because the Islamic Republic, if it says it has drunk the 90 "Jameh Zahra" (a religious phrase) and signed a treaty with heroic flexibility, I don't know if they, according to their own words, have theology, their own model, I don't know how many of their mujtahids saw Imam Zaman in a dream and told them to sign. I don't know. But in a non-theological state, if I say it, Kharg Island might be taken. Yes, that makes me feel at ease. For example, Javad Zarif, who wrote an article in the American media last night, Haddadian and these people said that if you don't retract your words about peace with America within 3 days, we will spill blood in your house. They said they don't care about the government, they will protest in front of your house and drag you out. I myself said in previous programs, I personally declare that we are Zionists, we are infidels. Negotiation with us, and what did they say, the Little Satan and the Great Satan, negotiations are forbidden, forbidden, forbidden. I tell all my Basij friends to check your theology. It is forbidden to negotiate with the Great Satan, with us, or with America. Do not accept any message, any treaty from us. Do not even sit with us. This war must continue. You are Satan, do not negotiate, stand firm until the end, fight only, because they are truly working very much in our favor. Let's stand firm and fight. Okay, let's go. I'm serious. I'm really serious. It was a joke, forbidden, forbidden, forbidden. We came to export the Islamic Republic's Twelver Shi'a Mahdist ideology from the first day. You want to make everyone like you, or consider everyone an infidel, as they say, and kill them. We are the Little Satan, we are small. You want to make the Great Satan small too. You must fight until the end. God willing. How do you want to negotiate? How do you want to negotiate when you have struck down Khamenei, their leader, their supreme leader? They must stand until the end and take revenge. It's not like that. You have political Shi'ism, they have taqiyya (dissimulation), they have tawriyah (ambiguity), they have conspiracy, so they can be outside of this matter. There are subtleties in political Shi'ism. But I myself am saying, I am the Little Satan. I am smaller than all of you. Do not negotiate with any of us under any circumstances. Okay, let's go to the casualties part. So, with this oil strike you mentioned, casualties have no place in this war. Meaning, no matter how many casualties they suffer, America will continue the war until the end. Think about it, tomorrow 100 soldiers, for example, are going to be killed in this war. With these figures of oil, weapons, and interests that I am talking about, 100 soldiers, unfortunately, I am saying, unfortunately, I am saying, for the interests of such a superpower, it is nothing. You can do a check-up now, in this very ChatGPT, very ordinary. Who has the oil of Mosul in Iraq now? I don't have ChatGPT now. Later, friends will look it up. The oil of Mosul in Iraq is with America. Meaning, when America left Iraq, they have commitments, official commitments with Iraq. The oil of Mosul belongs to America. Many years have passed, and they are still taking free oil. The oil of northern Syria is also still with America. Because in the 14-year Syrian war, it was still with America. Now, after Al-Joulani came, the oil of northern Syria, which was with the Kurds, but its extraction was with America, it is still with America. It is clear that it is with America. Mr. Al-Joulani put on a suit and tie and sat next to Trump, right? Yes. If the oil is not America's, then America is a very big oil-eater. So, it is very, very much an oil-eater. Because, whether you say America, or NATO, or China and Russia, their interests are interests. That's why you said in previous programs, we talked about it. Regarding Israel, I myself said that as Israelis, we must pay tribute. We have no choice. Meaning, the Islamic Republic has given 90 million Iranians and a country of Iran as tribute, because it doesn't want to pay tribute, the price of not paying tribute is 100 times more. Yes, exactly. I myself am saying that tribute must be paid. There is no other way. There is no other way. Mohammad Javad Larijani said that our security is organic, not like a greenhouse country. And I replied, I said, sir, this greenhouse security has 93 missiles targeting you, but with your organic security, you cannot intercept one of their missiles. Meaning, this independence and this resistance has practically brought more humiliation to the Iranian nation. For example, you say we resist to have dignity, but in practice, resistance has caused humiliation to the Iranian nation. And the regional countries that surrendered to America, their appearance is safe, but their people are living very well. They have dignity. The fact that you, as a father, cannot provide financial support for your children, send them to the best schools, buy them the best food, buy them the best clothes, you are humiliated there, and the Islamic Republic has humiliated the Iranian nation with its resistance, because its thinking is very cartoonish, it is delusional thinking. Because all these societies are like this. In Israel too, there is a branch, fortunately, it is small and not powerful yet, because they bring theology into politics, and national interests. Independence can be achieved, relatively, not 100%. But the fact that tribute must be paid to these superpowers, there is no doubt. With relative independence, tribute can be paid. First, that resistance they want to present, which comes from theology, spirituality, and so on, that causes misfortune. That's why you mentioned Syria. Yes, Al-Joulani came, put on a suit and tie, and then got up and sat next to Mr. Trump. It's that simple. It's that simple. And then, even ISIS, ISIS, which a while ago was beheading people. I used to have a view, some friends around me had a very anti-Israeli view, and when I talked about anti-Semitism, they would say, "Oh, they are playing games again." But after the October 7th war, I realized that there is a strange anti-Semitism in the world, and I am looking at it now. Meaning, if the Zionists and the Jewish people had not paid these tributes to America and others, they would have been destroyed in the world a thousand times by now. So, practically, what you are saying, that tribute must be paid, or that one must bow to the small superpowers, well, this has preserved the survival of the Jewish nation. But now, we who have resisted with a nation of 90 million people, the Iranian nation is practically being destroyed. We are changing the demographic composition, many Afghans and Iraqis have come among us, and Iranian identity is completely disappearing. This resistance is destroying Iran, but the bowing that the Jews did has preserved their survival. Israel would not have been formed at all if this bowing did not exist. This country where I am sitting now would not exist. I repeat, independence, we can have relative independence. Yes, Israel also has relative independence, but that collective independence that the Islamic Republic has with its theological thoughts, no. I have always said in my first program with you, I said there must be a red line in this Iran. It doesn't matter if it's Velayat-e Faqih, monarchy, or republic. Secession must not happen, because secession takes the discussion elsewhere. Put secession aside. Bowing must happen. If this bowing did not exist among the Jews, Israel would not have been formed at all. Now, what should I say? Because you would be destroyed. Meaning, if these man-eaters of Hamas had destroyed them a hundred times, you saw what they are doing on October 7th. Exactly. That's why I have no problem with independence, relative independence. But I have 100 problems with the name "resistance." Because when you say resistance, and then they take it into theology, the Jews, for example, have their own theology, they say things about Mahdism, Jewish Mahdism, something like that. Iranians make it their Imam Zaman. And later, I was with friends in Jamkaran, sitting by a well, crying, asking Imam Zaman to come out of the well in Jamkaran. Who will come out of the well in Jamkaran when Israel and America are destroyed? These are thoughts that no longer see the price of gasoline and oil, they see the price of weapons, they ruin a country, a nation. I agree with relative independence. I am 100% against the division of the country. But resistance, no. There must be tribute, bowing, as you say. There is no choice. Mr. Yosan, the fifth week is over. The sixth week, will the ground invasion begin with yesterday's events, or should we still wait another two or three weeks? I don't think there will be a ground invasion next week. America still needs to make a lot of preparations that it doesn't have. More analysis is needed, which it hasn't done yet. In my opinion, not next week. Next week, yes, please. Excuse me, but with the way things are going, with these planes and helicopters, and the discussions we've had, the war will become much, much, much, much more widespread. What is your outlook for a ground invasion? If it happens, look, the question you are asking is about America. I have always said that I am not privy to their internal protocols. These discussions about oil and weapons that I am having are because they are macro figures, figures that are taught in any university. As they say, they are taught in courses for master's students at the Ministry of Intelligence and so on. But the question you are asking is about America's internal protocols. It's about how ready their ground forces are. I don't want to say something unprofessional or untechnical. The sentence I am going to say is that if Bush comes, at least I can say it will be another month or two. It's not yet. But this discussion, this answer I gave, this last sentence is not professional at all, it's just a personal feeling. Meaning, the ground invasion will not start for another month or two. I have no professional claim on this discussion because I don't know America's internal protocols. Well, anyway, you were in the military for years and in intelligence, so your perspective is different. Your perspective is more specialized, whether you want it or not. But something that is happening now, for example, we have entered the second month of the war, and by the end of the second month, or at most by the end of the third month, we will witness the ground invasion. Meaning, in the fourth month of the war, we will enter ground wars and things like that. Whereas now, other analysts are saying that the war will end in 3 weeks. Even the analysts on Iran International are very seriously saying, they all come and very seriously say, "No, in 3 weeks, Mr. Trump will be forced to end the war." But you and I are sitting here talking about the war ending? No, the war will not end in 3 weeks. Well, yesterday I saw him give a speech with Netanyahu, he sent a message, I felt his confidence had increased again, I don't know why. He said the war will continue and we will strike harder and so on. In parallel with this, last night the Islamic Republic carried out an operation coordinated with Hezbollah. I don't know if Iraqi forces or Houthi forces also fired missiles at you simultaneously. Yes, the Houthis fired. So, the Houthis, Hezbollah, and the Islamic Republic attacked you together last night. Is it possible that these attacks could bother the Jewish people a little, to stop Mr. Netanyahu from continuing, to frustrate them? This war with the Islamic Republic is a war that, according to Israeli internal statistics, after the Six-Day War, is a war that the majority of Israeli society supports. Even the kibbutzim on the Lebanese border, whose situation is dire and they have shelters, they also say to continue. After the Six-Day War, this war with the Islamic Republic is a war that, in terms of internal national unity, I don't say 100%, but 85% have full agreement. They fully support Mr. Netanyahu to continue. That 15%, some of them are Arab citizens whose interests are different, some are radical leftists. Let's put them aside. But the complete and total majority of Israeli society fully supports Mr. Netanyahu to continue this war. Even now, on the 36th day of the war, they are the same as on the first day. You know, Hezbollah is also there. Hezbollah has joined. It's like the first day the war started, the Jewish people have the same opinion on the 36th day as they did on the first day regarding the Islamic Republic, regarding this war, regarding this war that started 36 days ago. 100. Okay, very good. So, why did Mr. Netanyahu's confidence increase a little yesterday? He was saying that the war will continue, we will strike harder at the Islamic Republic. Because there was some discussion that Mr. Trump might call for a ceasefire, Mr. Netanyahu was speaking a little cautiously, but yesterday he spoke a little more fearlessly. Are you aware of which ceasefire? Exactly, which one? They hit the oil facilities, they hit the petrochemicals. They are firing missiles at us. It makes no sense. I don't understand what they are talking about. Well, I don't understand either. The media says ceasefire every minute. I'm really confused. They use words that have some interests, whether for the left or the right. But ceasefire, they say ceasefire. Now, it was the day before yesterday, so the day before yesterday, people came and saw if there was a ceasefire or not. There was. So it's not over. So there is no ceasefire at all. Everyone write, Mr. Omid Dana, write, be happy. There is no such thing. Regarding, well, you summarize, because my questions are finished for the fifth week. If I haven't asked anything or if you have something to say that I haven't asked, summarize it so we can conclude the conversation. This war will continue for a long time. In conclusion, if anyone thinks that American forces will not suffer casualties, or Israel, no, the war has casualties. If anyone thinks that with these casualties, with 500 or a thousand, as you said about the Islamic Republic, the interests of superpowers will not be considered, then no. Even with 500 or a thousand, the interests are worth it, they will continue. I hope for the country and people of Israel, and the country and people of Iran, to have good days together in the future. Thank you very much, Mr. Omid Dana, for the freedom of discussion that you create for me every time, where I can speak freely without any political positions, left or right. It's a very clean, professional discussion. Thank you. I want to ask one more thing and then conclude. Many of our compatriots are actually stressed that if the Islamic Republic remains at the end of this war, the time is a matter of discussion, they say, everyone wants to see the end of the movie, what's happening. Do you have anything to say to calm down the people who are currently stressed, or do you have no recommendations or advice to give? To calm down the people, I myself, in a discussion where there are so many superpower interests, I don't know if even the Israeli people can be calmed down. But I know one thing. As much as I have the power, or as much as I have media positions and media power in Israel, or as much as they consult with me, as much as anyone contacts me, I am saying this: the thought of the Islamic Republic remaining in this concept should not be on the table for Israel and America. It's not about calming down the Iranian or Israeli people. It's about if this regime remains within this framework, if, and I'm only saying "if," the first thing it will do is obtain a nuclear bomb. Then all global equations will change. I will go back to our previous programs for 2 minutes. This "if" that exists, that the Islamic Republic remains and obtains a nuclear bomb, means that Saudi Arabia will also obtain one, Egypt and Turkey will also obtain one, Pakistan already has one. Meaning, the Middle East, which has 45% of global energy in its hands, the Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandeb are in its hands, will become a nuclear threat to the world. Superpowers cannot allow such a thing. That's why the discussion of the Islamic Republic's survival in this concept should not be on the table for Israel and America at all, because it completely threatens the global interests, or at least not the peace of nations, but the security of the region. Because it will lead the region to nuclearization, not just the Islamic Republic, but the complete nuclearization of the entire region. I will continue. If such an event occurs, it's not just about four nuclear bombs that each country will have. No, there is also something called "small suitcases," meaning nuclear terrorism, meaning countries can give a small percentage of a nuclear bomb to their militias around the world, and each bomber can destroy 30, 40, 40 cities in the world. Meaning, the world will become a different world. Terrorism will be a different model. That's why such a thought, such an ultimatum, cannot be on the table for the world's superpowers, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, that the Islamic Republic finds survival in this framework. Well, you have passed 5 weeks. Regarding Israel, we know that Israel does not want their survival at all, it says so very openly. But after five weeks, you said if such a thing should not be on their table, in these five weeks, do you see such a thing on Mr. Trump's table that the survival of the Islamic Republic should continue? After 5 weeks, Israel and America cannot say that the goal is the overthrow of the Islamic Republic. As much as you have heard from Mr. Netanyahu's speeches, he has always said, "The final decision belongs to the Iranian people." Because, truly, if they set the goal of the war as the overthrow of the Islamic Republic, the nature of the war changes. It is a very exaggerated goal. If they put such a thing on the table, but in my opinion, under the table, such a goal exists. It exists, and therefore, they absolutely cannot tolerate the Islamic Republic on their table. Exactly. So, we can be hopeful. We can be very hopeful that this war will end, and there will be no such thing as the Islamic Republic in this land. I hope, with hope, for a direct flight from Tehran to Tel Aviv. Amen. Live long. Thank you for coming and having this conversation. Thank you for your time. Well done. Live long. Enduring.