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[Music] Hello, and welcome once again to the White Lotus of Light Conversational Series. I am very, uh, pleased and I feel very blessed to have today, uh, Grand Master Timothy Hogan. For those who don't know, he is a world-renowned esotericist, leader of a number of Templar lineages, and I'm just going to go ahead and read this introduction so you can know who Tim is.
So, Timothy Hogan is Grand Master, the Order of the Temple of Secret Initiates, a Knight's Templar lineage, and he runs the Templar Collegiate, which I am a member of, and the Martinist Order of the Temple in conjunction with it. He is also a high initiate in several other traditions, including within Freemasonry and multiple Rosicrucian lineages. He is also a Gnostic Bishop and has been ordained as a Tibetan Poa Rinpoche. Beyond this, he is an author of multiple books—I have a lot on my shelf over there—and he is an expert in cross-cultural symbolism. He also does work in the entertainment industry and does track two diplomacy and is known for his lectures at universities and U.S. embassies worldwide, as well as private events.
And so, um, Tim, oh my gosh, well, how are you doing for starters?
Oh, I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Uh, I've been really looking forward to this. You know, the last show we, we did, I felt was, was really great, and I'm sure this will be too.
Oh, fantastic. Thank you so much, Tim. Yeah, I'm humbled to have you on. And one of the things, by the way, um, folks, you know, I, I've studied sort of the esoteric and occult and also secret societies and mystery schools and that sort of things for going on 20 years, but I was always kind of leery of joining various groups. And then I heard Tim on, actually, the show that I somewhat model my channel after, which is, um, Forum Borealis, um, gosh, probably about four or five years ago now. And what really stunned me about Tim is you heard that very lengthy, um, introduction of all the—and believe it or not, Tim is actually, uh, underselling all the stuff that he has going on. Uh, as I said in the previous episode I had him on, I call him the walking library of Alexandria. He's like one of the most phenomenally knowledgeable people I know, but you can see even just looking at him, Tim is an incredibly humble human being, and it's his humility that actually is the most, um, impressive to me characteristic, and it's what immediately attracted me to him along with the beautiful message that he brought, um, in, in that interview. And so, um, [Music] you know, I consider Tim a friend, and he's just, he's just a really awesome, humble person, which is amazing because he's so incredibly knowledgeable.
Well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. And so, um, uh, we're going to start with the first step. We're going to talk about Tim recently took a trip to Egypt. I tried to go and just, I couldn't get like my passport situation resolved timely because everything's backed up still with the coveted stuff. And, um, I really wanted to go because it was Egypt, and they went to all kinds of places. And we're going to kind of spend the first half of the show—we're going to do a two-parter here—the first half we'll be talking about, um, Tim's recent trip to Egypt and kind of the Templar connection, uh, to the Giza plateau, the Taurus as it was called in ancient times, and, um, also even going further back, the connection to, uh, Egypt through things like the Edfu building text, which is part of the trip that Tim recently took, uh, to, uh, what Plato called Atlantis, or as some people called the antediluvian or Ice Age civilizations. And so, um, Tim, I'm going to periodically try and bring up some pictures to illustrate this, but can you tell us a bit about that trip and its significance to you? And like, was there anything that you know, so much like, does anything surprise you anymore? Is there any, was there any new information or revelations on this trip?
There was actually, there was a lot, uh, which surprised me. I mean, I, I've, you know, I've been to Egypt before. We did initiations in the Great Pyramid back in 2011.
Oh, yeah.
Which kind of, if you Google November 11, 2011, Great Pyramid shuts down because of rumors of secret Masonic like rituals going on inside of it—that was me. You know, see if you Google that, you'll, you'll find a bunch of articles from the Guardian and other places about that. But, uh, you know, the last time I was there in 2011, it was during the Arab Spring, so things were a little more, uh, crazy at the time. But this, this trip was, you know, very stable; it was great. Um, we, um, we did get to go to, uh, dozens of temples and secret sites, many of which we, we got to go into areas that are closed to the public.
Wow.
Uh, and, uh, in, in some new areas that, uh, you know, have just been found. And, uh, you know, it was a little overwhelming. I mean, one of the main things we were looking for out there was evidence of lost technologies—those for one, you know, evidence of technologies that have been used in the ancient world, which we found a lot of examples of. We also were looking for, um, we were tracing—almost most people don't know that the Knights Templar, you know, the order that I represent, had a whole base of operations there in Egypt, uh, clear back in the, the 1200s, and they just kind of took over certain areas to, to work out of that they were studying. So we were visiting those areas. I mean, for example, at Philae, the Temple of Isis at Philae was, uh, was the Templar headquarters for a long period of time. And so even to this day, you can go there and you'll see what you would expect, the traditional Egyptian hieroglyphs and that type of thing, but then there's also, uh, Templar crosses carved everywhere from, from when the order was there. Uh, we also went to, at Dendera, the Temple of Hathor, Dendera; there's a, there was also a Templar preceptory that was there, and so there's still tense of that, as well as some Templar graffiti. But the main reason they were there was because there is all kinds of depictions of lost technology in that particular, you know, temple as well. And so I'm going to see if I can find the picture you're probably talking about, uh, and correct me if I'm wrong, um, the rather infamous sort of helicopter, submarine, tank kind of pictures—is that we're talking about?
Yeah.
So that was at Abydos, another place we went to. I actually have that bad boy. Oh, well, here I'll put that up just for people to see, but then I'll see if I can find that what you're also talking about because yes, Dendera, they have—yes. So that's there. We go. That's it, uh, that is at, uh, uh, Abydos. Yeah, which was basically this alchemical school; that's where that's where they were teaching alchemy; that's where they were making, you know, alchemical substances, some of which, you know, had a use that we believe, uh, was, you know, fairly sophisticated, not only for medicines but also for technology. So that was, you know, that was a big one.
Can you give an example of that?
Yeah. So, so one of the things that, uh, was pretty well established, particularly by the Pharaoh Thutmose III—you know, there's evidence that it had been around, you know, prior to that, but Pharaoh Thutmose the Third, and he was around in about, uh, 1350 BCE, so, you know, ways back—but he developed a—well, he, I don't know, he didn't develop it, but he utilized, uh, it—he developed a whole manufacturing technique; he was kind of like a the Pharaoh that established the early workshops, if you will, to, to create, to create mass amounts of what we would now call, um, what, what would we referred to in the Bible as mana?
Yeah.
But it's really, in the, the Egyptian text, it's referred to as, um, mystics, which is like a, it's a, it's a white gold powder. But it, uh, and sometimes that's mistranslated as turquoise, only because of the region that it's largely found in, is there's a lot of turquoise on the region that it's found in. But this powder has, uh, it's, it's powder that's in a mono-atomic state.
Ah, I've heard of this.
Also known as asymmetrical deform nuclei, high spin nuclei, uh, it's also known as a Cooper pair in physics; it's also, it's known as a number; it's also been referred to as, as orbitally rearranged monoatomic elements. These are all modern terminology for it. In the ancient world, it was referred to as mana, and this mana was—is—well, it is, uh, because of the fear of it at first, it doesn't, it doesn't show up as anything when you test it. So if you were to do a spectroscopic, scopic analysis on it, um, it doesn't, you know, there's a couple different ways to test what a chemical is; you can do a spectroscopic analysis, you can do a chemical analysis, but this, this substance doesn't seem to react to anything, so it doesn't show up as anything, which is why it was called mana, which in Hebrew just means what is it?
Really?
Yeah, that means what is it? That's what mana means in Hebrew.
Yes.
What is interesting because that's describing what it is; it's what is it? We don't know. I mean, if you test it, it doesn't show up as everything, but it, but it's clearly something. And by the way, here's, uh, Thutmose the Third.
That's correct.
Yes, that's Thutmose the Third statue of him at Luxor. Yeah, but he was all, you know, he was established stuff all over the place, but he, um, the substance was really, um, it's superconductive, yeah, and it has some really unusual qualities, one of which is if you were to take a container filled with it, and you were to take a same container filled with nothing, you subjected the container filled with mana to a weak electrostatic field, it actually causes the container filled with the mana to weigh less than the same container filled with nothing. So it does because the weight to change, so there's a, there's a levitation effect with it.
That's incredible.
And we think that this may have been partially how—well, the hieroglyphs themselves do suggest that they were using this to levitate or move stones and other things. And in fact, the temple walls—that's exactly what they say they were doing with it. And so we found it. And where was that at that has the temple walls that say that? I might even, uh, we've found that another place, one—the, the biggest one of course was at Edfu where the, uh, the building techs are.
Yeah.
But it was also, it's also found at Luxor and, um, a number of other places we found the hieroglyphs for it. So the what's interesting about that, I mean, is, uh, it implies that they were particularly using this mana in conjunction with, uh, these boxes that we would, we would recognize today as being like, um, uh, arcs.
Oh, there's a box right there. That's one of the boxes.
This one right here?
Yeah.
Yeah. So if you look at the bottom here, that, that's a box, and they're always shown with these rods, you know, on either side of it, like an ax. And those rods are, are designed to, um, to control the current that would be issuing from the box.
Is this also one here?
Yeah, that's one there as well. And you can see the, the field around it; you can see—yeah, actually being levitated, you know, off the ground.
Whoa.
Yeah, you can see where they're standing, and it's up off the ground, you know, right. And there's nothing there really except for this thing that you're saying is, uh, symbolic of the electromagnetic field, field around it.
Yeah, because like here it's on the ground.
That's right, with their feet. And then here where it has the, the activation, it's floating.
Wow.
And you can even see like, if you look out kind of the left there, you can see like, uh, like a, like a field that's coming down from the, the arm there and the left-hand side that's going—yeah, there you go. Let's go down to the, the thing to help move it. So there's, there's several examples of that. And, and from a biblical standpoint, you know, we know that, for example, uh, if you, if you consider the Ark of the Covenant is, you know, the most famous ark—is this an ark here as well?
Yeah, that's a replica of one.
Yeah. So that's one of the replicas of them. But so—and that's a, that's a Edfu; they have that replica of the ark. So what these arcs or these boxes were is they, they held the mana, and of course the Bible talks about that as well. It says, you know, that the Bible, I mean, or that the ark held, uh, mana in it, and that people would carry it with these two rods, just like you can see here, this picture. But the problem is the, those arcs, the, um, the, the materials that they were made out of, they would have weighed several tons, and yet two people could carry them with rods, right? Uh, so that's a problem if, if you consider standard physics, but it's not a problem when you consider that there's this mana that's in it that—well, first of all, the materials of the ark act as a capacitor; they build up static electricity over time, and, and then they're discharged usually through the top, through the, the garlands or the, or the wings of the, of the winged figures, you know, on the top of that; they would emit this electrical discharge, and that's part of the reason why no one could touch the ark without getting shocked to death. So, so this mana, you know, if you put the mana, the superconductive substance in the ark [Music] and it was building up the static electricity, the static discharge, it would activate the mana, which would cause the distribution of the weightlessness, and therefore we shouldn't be surprised with—in the Bible, who's in charge of guarding the ark is the Levites, and of course this is where we get the term levitation from, or levitation from.
Wow.
So it's, it's, in those rods, you know, they would control the current, but they could also use those rods to ground the electricity. So if the ark started building up too much electricity, just drop the, the rod against it, it would cause the electricity to go into the, the rod and into the ground, and then you could handle the, the ark without shocking yourself, you know. So there's depictions of this all over the place there in Egypt.
So I have a question, like, you know, there's, there's whether that—so here you see the levitation; you can see this right here.
Yeah.
You see the, the gravitational waves lifting it up.
Yeah.
Wow. So I have a question; they say there's, there's another picture of the same thing. Yeah, um, so, uh, you know, in the classic Indiana Jones movie, like the art, and also I think someone in the Bible, though when I tried to run this down, I didn't find a lot of information that backed that up, but in the Indiana Jones movie, it's, it's used as a weapon. Is it, is it, um, do you, do you think that there was any like anything to that, it being used as a weapon to like level enemy armies or whatever? I mean, there's something kind of like that in the Bible from one of the versions I read, but it's, it seems a bit of a stretch—certainly not as dramatic as Indiana Jones and, uh—
Yeah, I think I, I think it probably did, uh, cause I mean, if you had an ark, which by the way, we could build one; I mean, we know the materials—this—so that's the Edfu building text right there; that, that's part of the Edfu building techniques.
That's incredible.
So you can see here that, that's a stargate; that's literally what that means is stargate, or Saba. So in, in the Egyptian heartless Saba, it's the, the stargate, and then—which is, by the way, is where the term, um, Sabaeans comes from.
Versailles?
Ah, yeah, is from that. But, uh, but here, you know, you could see, you know, they're, they're, uh, it's, it's part of the depiction of these boats, um, you know, moving through the stargate. And, uh, I think there's more on that as well.
Yeah, there's another one you can—so it describes this, uh, this cataclysm with the cosmic waters, and then this escape on these boats, you know, which is kind of interesting; it seems to depict, uh, the story of Atlantis. And you can argue what the stargate is; there's another stargate, but these stargates, um, there, there are—there's another one, and you can see that, that, that, that that symbol above the star is actually represents a mouse, and it represents sound. So it's the sound emanating from this stargate, you know, the resonance—another, another word for it would be resonance.
Wow.
Um, in fact, that normally it's, it's not uncommon to depict with Hathor. So that's—so if you go back to that slide—sorry—this one?
No, no, the other one you were just at.
This one?
Oh, no, the final one, sorry.
This one?
Yeah.
This one? Yeah. So here you see another box, another—so that's actually another, um—
Oh, I see it here.
Yeah, that's another ark there, and then above it there are the, are the white cakes, or the with the white powdered gold cakes, which would be what we would call the mana that went with the ark. And that's, that's that particular scene right there is, I think I believe that one was depicted at Luxor itself. And you could see the mercy seat there that goes above it even.
Yeah.
So we found evidence of these things depicted all over the place.
Yeah.
Fantastic. Yeah, I mean, uh, Egyptologists aren't really used to looking at it at that, at that way, right? You know, we're fascinated—as a Templar, part of our Templar tradition, we've, um, documented and preserved a number of arcs throughout history. So, you know, we were looking at the some of these Egyptian ones, including, you know, there's also legends of a, of an ark being brought to, um, an area in Egypt known as Elephantine Island, which is off limits to the public, and we went there as well. Uh, that, that place looks like, uh, looks like a bomb went off at it, to be totally honest, um, and, uh, I mean, everything—I mean, there were 100-ton carved granite structures that had been completely just toppled over, and, and court quartzite, um, uh, building structures that have been completely blown apart in the southwest of it, everywhere—the broken pottery everywhere, uh, and then there was also, um, we also interestingly at Elephantine Island, there's a temple at Thutmose the Third temple, and in the temple has depicted, um, a figure wearing a Mayan headdress, that's why—which is really far out because I mean, it, it's very clearly Mayan, and—
Were there pictures of this?
I'm trying to find it; there, there is—they're a little hard to see; they're in there somewhere, one of my posts, but they, they have a—yeah, it's a, it's Kom Ombo?
No, not Kom Ombo; that was like a—so that was like a healing place, but that was one of the earliest had one of the earliest depictions of the caduceus.
Well, I think I maybe found it; it's a Temple of Isis at Philae, as well as some giant unfinished obelisk, Aswan, and the Island of Elephantine—is it in that?
Yes.
Yeah, the island. Okay, I'll share it, and then we'll see if we can find it. I tried to pull these up ahead of time here. So yeah, so there it is; that's Elephantine Island. You can see it's like kind of—I think that's—doesn't look like—no, that's the unfinished obelisk, sorry.
Oh, that—yeah, right there.
Okay. That's interesting and impressive, and it shows how, you know, it's like Baalbek and Lebanon where there's these—oh, yeah—giant rocks in situ, and like there's no way that they were moving things with base guys.
Yeah, that's Philae right there.
Beautiful. Keep going forward with that.
Yes, that's Philae. And you'll see—see the Templar cross there. And there's another one right there.
Yeah, that—and, and you, um, you said that like these marks were, were made later by Templar, correct?
Yeah, they just took over the old temple, and then there's another one—yeah—left these marks on them, and some other—there's another one; they're all over the place. Boy, our ancestors, so to speak, uh, really got out there with those crosses everywhere.
Yeah, that was—so that's one of the alt—the other two main altars in the, in that couple of devices—there's Johnny Enoch. All right, let's see here. So that's the—so that's the actual temp—so that's the temple at Elephantine Island. And if you keep moving forward, I'll explain what we're looking at. So this is Elephantine Island, which looks like a part—there is these, uh, butterfly clips, uh, markings, you know, between the stones, which used to be filled with metal in them. Some people believe that they were actually, um, acted almost like, uh, like they had, they broadcasted electricity to a certain degree, and that these spots were like, uh, like Wardenclyffe Tower with Tesla.
Exactly, like Wardenclyffe.
And that the, those, the areas where those butterfly clips are, rather than being to hold stones together, they were actually used to, uh, uh, receive the electricity. So you could—here—so here it is, that Elephantine—you can see that line, that straight line going straight down the middle of it.
Yeah.
Kind of goes—we don't know what that is, but it seems to be marking like some sort of a lay line, yeah, or maybe an astrological marker.
Oh, here's more of where these clips just be—yep.
Interesting. And so they were doing some kind of wireless—oh, wow. What is it? So that was knocked over; so that's like a 100-ton gramic, uh, structure just completely toppled over, probably made with some copper tools.
Yeah.
You can't cut that with copper, right? I've differently about that, how they, how they've made that, but yeah, no, there's clear—there's so much evidence of—especially unlike some of that, uh, pink granite to where it's like there's machining on it; there's no other explanation because there's no way that copper is much softer than that granite; it's not even close. I forget what it's called, the Ohm scale or something like that.
Yeah.
There's measure hardness, and there's, there's no way that some of these things in granite were—so there we go. So that's the Mayan—
Wow.
Wow. So I haven't seen this one yet. So this is on my mind too. Yeah, so that's a Mayan headdress, you know, uh, in this temple of Thutmose the Third on Elephantine Island. And so remind me what's the era for Thutmose? You said about 1300 BCE?
Yeah, yeah, 1350 BCE.
Yeah. So viewers, mind you, mainstream archaeology says the Mayan culture is like, I want to say 1200 years ago, like 800, maybe, maybe 600 or 480, like at the absolute oldest; that's their claim. And this—it predates that by like almost 2,000 years—1,600 years.
That's—
Yeah, there's no way. And you don't find that headdress anywhere else in Egypt with those feathered plumes on top; that's not a, that's not an Egyptian thing; it's a very, very clearly something you find in the Americas, uh, I mean, certainly amongst the, the Nahoa cultures of which, um, the Maya and the Aztec and others came out of, and eventually, you know, seemed to have spread up into, uh, North America with some of the tribes up there. Wow. But the, the, the thought is, I mean, of course, those Nahoa cultures, they say that they originally came from a, that was called, um, Atlan—right—Ocelong, got destroyed in this cataclysm, and they escaped in boats to the New World, and then they started building pyramids and everything else. So, you know, some have seen the story of Atlan—and Plato's story of Atlantis, which is also found on those Edfu, uh, building texts, you know, it's the same story. The fact that we have this Mayan figure here is really suggestive of, um—well, it seems smart—oh, go ahead.
Well, it just suggested a lot more contact in the ancient world than it was normally—exactly. I mean, it implies two things, that—or possibly a third thing, which is even more anathema to archaeology—which, my opinion is, archaeology is one of the biggest like snow jobs that there is, which isn't to say there's no value to it; it's just that it's so heavily controlled. It's very clear to me that various governments—and an easy one that any viewer, no matter what their mindset would agree with, is the, um, the Islamic government of Egypt doesn't like to say things are older than a certain amount because if they do, that goes counter to a Muslim doctrine, and that, that's risky because, like Tim was saying earlier, there was an Arab Spring that happened, you know, back in 2011, and if, if the government of Egypt were to acknowledge that certain artifacts were older than the, uh, total year count in, according to the Islamic texts, like the Quran, then that would cause a great deal of disruption. So that's a very clear—nobody really argues it—obvious example of where a government has an interest in suppressing, especially how old certain historical things are. But this seems to imply that A, the Mayans are much, much older than we're told; B, that there was trans-oceanic, transatlantic contact that went all the way into the Mediterranean, Egypt; or a third possibility—and these aren't mutually exclusive in my opinion—is that there's an antecedent culture that was, you know, transatlantic in nature, or at least ended up with refugees who fled to both sides of the Atlantic after some kind of cataclysm, uh, you know, likely someplace along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. And I say that simply because that's close to where the Azores are and close to, uh, where there would have been land above the water when you had a much lower water table, much lower ocean levels during the last Ice Age, which is exactly the time frame that Plato gives us via Solon via his trip to Egypt.
So yeah, fascinating.
Yeah, cool stuff. But this, by the way, these photos you're seeing of Elephantine Island, I mean, that whole island is closed to the public; it's not—this is all, uh, you know, not—it's not something that you're gonna—that must be irregularly—
Yeah.
It's amazing. But archaeologists have been digging there for the last 60 years because we, we do know that at one point in time there was also a Jewish temple there on that island, which is kind of unusual. Graham Hancock talks about it, uh, some in his research related to the Ark of the Covenant, uh, but it does seem to, you know, that there is speculation, you know, that this spot may have been, uh, one of the holdout spots for one of the arks, one of these arcs that we find in antiquity.
Wow.
And they're digging forward right now, still. Yeah. So, um, oh, and by the way, there's also the whole, the whole area is, the granite is turning into slate in the area, which—what—
Yeah.
It's really—how is that possible? I don't know; it's, it's straight—you can see it all throughout the island; it's, it's the, the granite is transmuting, uh, literally into slate, and it, it seems to suggest that, I mean, that there has to be some sort of radioactive or high-energy thing in the region that would be causing it to do that. So it's, it's really—there's certain areas of the island that you, you see it more than others, but yeah, it's, it's—I mean, have they looked to see if it's safe, like radiation-wise?
I don't know. [Laughter] You know, I'd be a little alarmed if rocks were changing around me. You know, I've already, I've already had all the kids I want to have this lifestyle. [Laughter] They should be okay. Well, if you have any more, somehow, I guess you could have, uh, that have superpowers, right? Isn't that, that's just science, I think, Tim. Um, wow. So was there anything else, um, on that trip that you wanted to, um, sort of cover? I mean, like, it's, I, I there are some amazing pictures that I just like, and maybe I'll just ask you some questions about some of those. Um, here's a good one that somebody took, and I believe that this is, um, in one of the like sort of secret areas that you guys were able to get access to.
That was—yeah.
So that was that Dendera, which is where the famous zodiac is; it's also where the light bulbs are.
Ah, yeah, the, the—all right, so it's this series—yeah, right. Correct. That's—oh, it's so beautiful. I'm—
Totally beautiful. There's like a spare feeling on the ceiling, you know, on the maze going through there. Oh, it's just so gorgeous. I can only imagine what these places look like and they're, hey uh, on the tops of all those uh, pillars. And yeah, you have to remember Hatha means resonance, or it means sound. Yeah, so incredible. You know, it's really, really the details. Yeah, it's it's amazing. Um, I just, I mean, that's actually so right there, that's the earliest depiction of the Eye of Horus. Wow.
And and what's the estimated age for this, like both public and like what we might privately consider? Well, I mean, the the official, the official explanation is that it was a temple that was later um, restored by the Greeks, but that um, but privately some archaeologists will say that they believe that this temple could be as 20,000 years old. I mean, wow. That puts it like uh, that puts it back nearly a full turning of the great whale. That would make it, yeah, that's really small back and it's just been, you know, it's it's had layers of things added to it. You know, I mean, here, here you see uh, yeah, depictions of like uh, flying serpents and and and such. They're in the middle and angels. It looks like a cherub, like in terms of the number of wings and stuff. Yeah, wow.
Yeah, and then that's also where there's this, these staircases. You know, there's there's a speculation, some say it's just worn down, others suggest that it looks like there was some sort of uh, hydrofluoric acid melted the stone. I mean, I have my own theories. I I think it might um, I'm writing a book right now related to um, some ancient Egyptian alchemy, and uh, one of the one of the things that I explore in there is this, I I believe 100% that one of the things that the Egyptians were using was hydrofluoric acid. They create that, and that of course um, melts particularly the silicates that you find in granite. Yeah, things. And so that's what they were using to etch the granite and to carve the granite was uh, was with this acid. And and this to me looks like, and there's several other examples I found, and it looks like an acid spill, you know, one basically dropped the thing down the stairs and it just, that's funny to think like that, there's an accident that like lasts who knows how many thousands of years later.
So these were like secret, there's these secret chambers in there, and so like these are the Dendera so-called Dendera light bulbs. You know, there's speculation on on the one hand you could say it's depicting a creation story from the time of the Zep Tepi, which was the time prior to this pharaoh's ruling and how they brought the knowledge to Egypt, but on the other hand, on his, there's those boxes again. Yeah, I'll click those in a second, but you were going to say, on the other hand, you think that it's, well, it could be light bulbs. I mean, yeah, but listen, I mean, it sure looks like it, doesn't it? Especially it's a it's a, there's no evidence of soot or anything in in there, so we don't really know how they were even able to light that chamber. Right. Be it could be that the um, yeah, they're just using these light bulbs. Yeah, and if you, so if you here you see those boxes again. Sorry, I'm like a second behind you. Here, we'll go to this. So there's the four, those are four boxes, for more of those boxes, arc, so you can see them issuing the electricity out of the top of them. You know, and then this is interesting. Yep. And that's in the same area as those light bulbs, like it's just the next panel over in the same little chamber. So wild.
Yeah, and I think there's a place where there it is. So, so it's up high in a wall, there's this a a panel that slides out, which is just super, super cool. Yeah, it's this little secret entrance, and I mean, you wouldn't even know. So this, this like you wouldn't even know it was there unless you knew it was there. I mean, and and uh, yeah, so if you see it, see that's that's Jay going, you know, trying to fit through there, you know. Yeah, going into there. So it's clear that's where like these these mysteries were being, and I think that's again this way. Let me see if I can find this picture here. Can you see that? Yeah, that's all of us in there. Yeah, that's awesome. One of those chains, there's a bunch of these little chambers that and there you can see at the bottom of, right. Oh yeah, that's where, that's how we got into it. You know, it's through, that's wild. Yeah, and is this part of that chamber or is this something else? Yeah, it looks like it's upside down almost. I know it's, well, it's kind of warmed up. It's weird little chambers with low doors, you know, and then it looks melted on the floor again, like that's very strange. Yep. And then meanwhile, look at these perfect right angles all over the place, and then there's parts of it that are, yep, very strange. Whoa, what's this? Tah? I think that's Ta uh, at the time of the Zep Tepi, you know, before the pharaohs ruled. And is this a wheat thresher or is that a squish? I don't know. We don't we don't know exactly for sure, or like the thing that pharaoh has, I forget what it's called, and he's in some sort of a mirror actually. So the thing, that thing uh, below it you see, he's in like that circle disc, it's resting inside of like uh, oh yeah, I see. You know, we don't know really it is, but it's uh, it looks like it could be tech as well. Interesting. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there it is, like in sort of greater uh, context there. Wow, so incredible. And there's more of those melted stairways. I think that might be, I think that's a second example actually. And then above that, that's the uh, that's the zodiac at Dendera. You know, it's one of those depictions of the zodiac. I mean, it's a replica of it, the original got removed and taken to the Louvre, and I believe it was at the Louvre in Paris, but they made an exact copy of it and sent it back, which they which they installed. How generous of them to send back a copy. So that's uh, Muhammad Ibrahim, he's just describing the zodiac up there, and it's more than a zodiac because it's it's almost like a star map, and it it describes, you know, different levels of the universe and wow, how to how to trans, you know, how to move from one part of it to another. It's almost like a road map for the universe.
That's interesting because that's kind of like the Mayan, the Mayan calendar, is that I've read that it's also like something to determine where you are and the plate as they described it as space-time. It's a map to figure out where you are in time and space, um, which is interesting because that gets in that whole, there's the theory of the holographic universe, and that actually everything is all existing like right now, the Roman Empire is right now, the Zep Tepi period is right now, ancient Egypt is, etc., the Middle Ages, everything, it all exists simultaneously, and it, it since it's already in existence, it's kind of like that you're along the Great Wall of China and it has a mural of all of time, but you can only see a part of it at any given moment of experience because it's so vast. Yeah, is that sort of what this is describing, something akin to that? Something like that. I mean, it definitely, I mean, it definitely shows the different star constellations, it shows paths between certain star constellations, and uh, you know, and then I mean, of course, it's a zodiac, it shows the zodiac too, so it shows that, you know, the timing of the procession of the equinox or of the wow, you know, the great year. Yeah, the great year. So it's it's a it's pretty complicated to be honest, but it's pretty cool.
Yeah, so is there any um, that's Templar graffiti that's there. Oh, this right here? Yeah, funny back in the 1200s when they were doing studies there and trying to figure it out at that time, and that's the uh, that's kind of the little temple area that they were, you know, doing work in, but it has a at the back there it had it has this kind of gate, you know, this door, but it doesn't go anything. And fascinating, that's kind of, we don't know why, but that's wow. Apologists will say, oh well, it's for the afterlife, or it's a doorway to the afterlife or whatever, right? Yeah, it's always something simplistic and made with copper tools, right? And a bunch of slaves working really hard to build a ramp that would be more of an engineering marvel than the pyramid itself, to build a ramp that would be four kilometers long or whatever to pull it up. Um, so so Tim, I'm thinking um, unless there's something you wanna else, just in the interest of time, because I I know you're incredibly busy man, I was thinking that maybe we would we would stop here and then um, in a second come back and do part two with some questions to answer, or was there anything else in the Egypt trip that you wanted to like point out and I can see if I can track down the pictures or not?
Well, you know, I just say that you know, we are going to go back there in March of 2023, uh, right now we got plans for March 16th through the 31st, 2023, so my birthday, March 31st, so I feel like I have to go. Yeah, so we'll be there during the spring, you know, equinox, and uh, that's cool. So, and we're gonna go to all these places again, plus more, and uh, I mean, it's uh, the trip is organized via Saboteurs, the the name of the tour we have is Our Stargate Tours, so you want to be careful mentioning that when you go through French customs though, they might get a little alarmed. Yeah, but that'll, you know, that that's something that you know, certainly uh, will be open to um, you know, people who want to go. I mean, we're gonna we're gonna show a side of Egypt and show some things that just aren't open to the public and television. And is that for Templar only or is it open to the belt? No, it's it's going to be open to the public uh, for people who want to go uh, we we will have some be doing some ceremonies there, you know, for Templars only, but um, but there's other things, you know, there's plenty to, I mean, there's plenty of states. So busy, it's a two-week trip. Is that the thing that Johnny Enoch advertises uh, Initiation into the Mysteries of Egypt? Because I can just throw that up on the screen because that's correct. Okay, can we just say I gotta hit that? I think if you go to my Facebook page, I just posted uh, so Johnny Enoch tagged you in something yesterday, and so Initiation the Mysteries of Egypt from March 16th through the 31st of 2023, spring equinox, and it mentions a bunch of amazing, amazing people. Um, yeah, and boy, they say enjoy a fascinating lectures about lost ancient technologies, alchemy, and emerald tablets, remote viewing, Templar secrets and more details to come to come soon from Sabatours.com, all one word, um, life-changing adventure includes five-star luxury hotels and Nile cruises, private permissions and exclusive visits to ancient temples, and of course Tim will be there to be doing a lot of the explanation, but a lot of other kind of luminaries in the esoteric and Egyptology, well, whatever, um, alternative Egyptology field will be there, like Johnny Enoch and so forth. So um, well Tim, I think that uh, unless there's something else you want to add, we'll go ahead and end part one here, and then we'll come back with the Q&A from viewers. How's that? All right. So I'm gonna go ahead and stop now. Thanks, by the way, for watching, viewers.