Who was Jesus? How did his life intersect with The Zohar? Billy answers all my questions 🔥

I have Billy Phillips with me here, and Billy changed my life with his course called "Unreacting Jesus."

For the past four years, since the onset of what I call the shift in the world, I have been going down every rabbit hole I can, trying to find truth in every corner that I can. And one of my biggest, most burning questions always centered on who is Jesus? What's the real story? Because I know, I know that he's been vilified on one side, and he's been deified on the other side, and I feel like there's truth somewhere in the middle of that.

And Billy, somebody on my Telegram chat, Esther, my good friend Esther, dropped your course in the comments, and it caught my attention. And I said, "Let me check this out." And I purchased the course, and it was the best $99 I ever spent in my life because you gave me the peace that comes from knowing the truth. And not only, Billy, did you answer my question of who is Jesus, you answered my question that I didn't even know that I had. Okay?

So Billy answered the question for me, not only who is Jesus and what is the truth about the life of Jesus, but what, what is the Zohar? I didn't even know that I needed an answer to that question. And you have opened my consciousness in such a way that I'm no longer triggered. Triggers, um, of, of Christianity, hearing the name Jesus as a Jew. So many of us are triggered when we hear these things. And now I find myself, it's such a hallmark, a benchmark of healing, to be able to hear conversations that would have triggered you with brand new ears and brand, and brand new available consciousness to take in the truth.

I'm still triggered when I hear the name. It's hard, right? Are you really? Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very weird. But go ahead. I'll get into it. Thank you for that honesty. Yeah, we're going to get into it with the questions that I have for you. Um, but I just want to start out by thanking you for your time today. I really appreciate it. Appreciate you having me.

Okay. Okay. So the first question I have for you, Billy, is, who are you?

I'm a student. I'm not a teacher. I'm a student of Kabbalist Rav Berg. Um, because I deal with this topic, I deal specifically with the area of, you know, the historical Jesus and Kabbalah and Zohar and science and quantum physics. Uh, and Zohar because they deal with Jesus and Kabbalah. Uh, people think I'm Jewish. You know, I'm a Jew for Jesus? No. Or they think I'm a Christian? No. I'm born Jewish. My last name used to be Yoskovich. My great-great-grandfather changed it from Philip Yoskovich to Philip Phillips, long before the American Idol guy came along. So I was born a Jew, am a Jew. The proper term is Israelite. We're not talking about tribes, we're talking about who we really are, right? The, the souls who stood at Mount Sinai. You know, 3,000 years ago. So I went to Hebrew school, you know, begrudgingly, hated it because I always asked questions. And the answer was always like, "Why do we do this?" "Because it's written." "Why do we do that?" "Because our fathers and our grandfathers and our forefathers and the patriarchs did it." I don't want to tell you what I said, it wasn't, but, you know, not for me.

Now, I never doubted as a kid that there was, you know, a Divine Force, God, if you will, for lack of a better term, you know, permeating the entire universe and reality. But the Judaism that I grew up with didn't speak to me because it wasn't answering answering questions. Okay? And of course, I saw, you know, a lot of, whatever. And then when I'm an adult, in my early 20s, when my father passed, the rabbi came to our home. First time we ever had a rabbi in our house because we, I came from a secular family. My grandparents were, you know, were were Orthodox, if you will, on one side of the family, but otherwise, it was a secular, secular household. When the rabbi came, I bombarded him with all kinds of questions again about Judaism and life after, everything. There were no answers.

So by my mid-20s, no, late 20s, early 30s, I was making a ton of money in business. And I achieved everything. I was starting to achieve everything I wanted. I mean, I had an office with a sauna in it and a sunroom, and I had a $100,000 car, and I had robots that I was building for a theme park project. I was developing all the toys you'd want. I was empty. Not consciously, I wasn't saying, "Oh, I'm empty." It was subconscious. I was walking into the bookstores, grabbing science books, looking for meaning. And I was fascinated by science. And I'm reading the science books, I'm going, "Holy gees, there's truth here. There's answers." But then I saw, but they don't tell you why. They're telling you how. Same as Judaism. "Why do we do this?" "I don't know, but this is how you do it. This is, this is how you wrap the film. This is how you pray." But why? And science couldn't tell you why.

And I sensed the same, I'll use the word ego, in the scientists because they were going out of their way, in many of the books, not all the books, in many of the books I was reading, they're going out of their way to prove there's no need for God. So I knew that was malarkey.

So one day, I knock on my door in my office. I had a two-way mirror, right? And I could see, you know, he looks like a religious Jewish guy in my lobby, and he wants to talk to me. And I figured, "Oh, let this guy in. I'm gonna, I'm gonna make mincemeat out of this person because he's not going to answer the questions that I have." That I have. And I know I have few little answers about science and what success in life through business. So I called him in, sat down. Lo and behold, this guy answered my questions. Wow. He was from the Kabbalah Centre, New York. He was coming to, you know, share, selling, you know, copies of the Zohar. I never heard of the Zohar in my life. Never heard of Kabbalah. But when he used the word Kabbalah, this is a true story, when he just said, you know, "It's about Kabbalah," I felt like an electrical current go through me. Right? And we spoke for three hours. And he answered questions, many of which dealt with the unification of science and Torah, you know, to explain things.

But what really sold me is after three hours of hitting him with, and I'm a maniac, I'm question, question, question, and I'm super skeptical, but not skeptical in a negative way. Skeptical, but not, "Please, I hope you have the answer." But I'm going to hit you with everything. Not trying to prove him wrong. Please prove me right. What about this? What about that? What about? And the son of a gun is answering every question. But what sold me, what gave me real comfort inside, was that when I hit him with one question he couldn't answer, he says, "I don't know the answer to that question." Wow. Which validated all the questions he did answer, 100%.

And that's your appeal also tremendously. I heard you in the course. Anytime you didn't know something, you said, "I don't know." Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Look, my teacher taught me, by the way, and this is a good preface to today's interview, don't believe a word I said. I'm never going to give you my opinion. I'm not allowed to give you my opinion unless I pre-qualify and say, "Just my opinion." My teacher, Rav Berg, told me, "Just quote the Zohar, quote the Kabbalists, the sages of history. I don't care how brilliant your opinion may be, don't give it. Just quote." So it's all, so if I don't know an answer, sorry, I'm not giving you my opinion. Or I'll give you my opinion, but I'm saying first, "It's only my opinion." I have no answer, you know, from the Kabbalists. So that's what I do. I'm not here to give you some brilliant theory. I'm just going to share, you know, what I learned from my teacher about this topic and the Kabbalists of history. And that takes the ego out of it immediately. Cuts the ego.

Well, you always have ego. I gotta keep, I gotta keep my, my hand on my ego's throat throughout. But the key is just recognize it. As long as you know, yeah, it's my dumb ego, and you're just trying to fight it. But no one can be without ego. We're not supposed to be without ego. We're supposed to just repurpose it for the sake of sharing and or just identify it in the situation. Yeah, I got ego. I want everybody to love me. Ah, just my ego. So now I know. Please, I don't want them to just, I want to really truly be a channel. And I know I can't be a channel because I got ego. That's enough. Yeah, that's enough.

And we do all, and we do all love you, Billy. You're so universally loved. I think God gave you this mission because you have such a universal appeal about you. You, I feel like you're the great in-between person for Jews and non-Jews. You're just, and even down to your name, Billy Phillips. It's just, yeah, crazy, right? Perfectly suits you. Yeah, yeah.

My next question is, how did you become close with Rav Berg?

Oh, okay. I'll share a story. So when I first got involved, because it was a student of, of Rav Berg who came to my office, you know, one of the Kevra, one of the, you know, the army of soldiers that the Rav built around him to bring this wisdom to the masses, the people who want to learn. Uh, I immediately connected with him. I wasn't really interested in the Rav. Didn't know who the Rav really was. Never met him. And when, um, this person tried, his name was Aton, when he tried to connect me to him, I said, "No, no, no. Just answer my questions. I don't want to go too far. I got a business to run. I love it, but I'm not getting deeply involved at this point." So he gives me a video. He says, "Watch this video. It's, it's Rav Berg. It's the Rav." And I would never call him the Rav. So embarrassed now. But I'd call him Berg. Listen, if Berg was, and he would cringe every time I said that. Remember, I came from a secular world. I didn't know about, you know, respect, even honor the one, you know, literally for a rabbi. You know, I never respected the rabbis. The rabbi that I grew up with in my synagogue, he would take his car keys and throw it at a student if he wasn't paying attention. So yes, so I hated rabbis.

So he gives me a video to watch on the Rav giving insights into Rosh Hashanah. Gives me a video. But it's late one night. I put it in my TV. I watch. Thinking, is this guy going to be a charlatan or this great holy sage? It was neither. It was like you said, it was, it was just chill. Like you could interpret it any way you want. He's just there sharing. Handsome man. But, but it's not this guru. And he's just, looks like a snake oil salesman. He's just, is. And, and that was what was compelling. I wasn't a mystical guy at that time at all. I was in, you know, not that I am now, but I, I was a very intellectual. So I did something very surprising. It even surprised me. I said, "I need a sign. I can't waste my time with this, you know what I mean?" I love talking to the guy who comes to my office about Kabbalah, but I need to know if this guy is who he says he is, who they say he is, and if he's for me.

So I went outside. It was after midnight. I leaned against my wife's car and I said, literally to God, I said, "Look, I'm not playing around here. I need an answer. I want a sign. And it's got to be blatant. I'll sit there for two hours, you know, till two in the morning, if I have to. I don't care. But I want to see a falling star to tell me it's him. I haven't seen a falling star since I was a kid." So I said, "Show me a falling star." And I'm living in the suburbs of, you know, uh, Toronto, in a city called Thornhill. And you don't see falling stars there. And I hadn't seen one since I was a kid at camp. So I leaned back and I was prepared to wait, really, an hour, two hours. And instantly, this falling star goes across the sky. I'm, I'm gonna curse. My pants. What? I freaked. Yeah. It's, it's, yeah. No more signs. And I ran into the house, I woke up my wife, and I had an anxiety attack. I did. I had a panic attack. I couldn't cope with it because it was too bizarre.

So that was the beginning of getting to answer your question of getting close to the Kabbalist Rav Berg. You know, so then I said, I was prepared. I'm diving in. This is what I've been looking for my whole life. I always knew there was a God. I knew science had answers. I knew, you know, there must be answers in Torah, but I didn't like organized religion. And so I dove in head first. It was the most exhilarating, insane feeling I've ever felt. Every time I learned a piece of wisdom, every time there was a secret, and I slowly began to learn and feel and experience and got close to Rav Berg, which is, you know, a whole other story.

How many years were you close with him? Um, ballpark? 25, 30 years. And he still, he still talks to you? Yeah, yeah. Most insane story. Insane. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah. He comes to you when he needs to. Absolutely.

Okay, so I want to move to my next question. You, you touched on this in the course. Um, and by the way, for everybody listening, I'm going to post the link for the "Unreacting Jesus" course below. So, and I recommend taking this course. It is a life-changer. These are the follow-up questions that I have for for Billy that he so graciously agreed to answer. Um, Billy, can you explain why, why now is Zohar permitted to be taught widespread?

Okay, so that was actually, it actually occurred around 15, I think it was 1541, when the prohibition of learning Zohar was removed. It says in the year, there's actually two. There were two points. There was one with Kabbalist Aram Azulay, Moroccan Kabbalist, who said, "It's now time. You can study Kabbalah." And the, and the Zohar itself, you know, identifies the year. I think it's 1840, when the gates of heaven above, when the gates of wisdom below will open up. They removed the prohibition. So let's just say it was 15, you know, the 1500s. Still didn't happen then. Then comes along Rabbi Isaac Luria, who deciphered, organized, revealed the insights of the of the Zohar in a way that could start to be understood. Because prior, it was like a puzzle piece was all over the place. All those brilliant, insane wisdom secrets of, but it was all over. Rabbi began to systematize it and and added a commentary and etc. Still didn't happen.

It took until, and it says, basically, if the, if the Messiah, if Messiah does not arrive, you know, but by that date, let's call it 1840 or 1541, you must open the doors of the Zohar so that at least it will happen with mercy, right? As opposed to judgment. We're going to get there, right? The question is how and when. If we go full term, the whole 6,000-year cycle to the seventh millennium, then we're going to get there through judgment and pain and suffering, and we'll be transformed by the pain. But if we can proactively transform ourselves and give up the ego, repurpose it to serve others as well, instead of just ourselves, and we spread that Zohar, we can get there through mercy. And Kabbalist, uh, Rav Yehuda Ashlag opened up the Kabbalah Centre in 1922 for this singular purpose, to accelerate and ignite the redemption of the world through the spreading of the Zohar. And, and so that's when it really began to happen.

But he, I didn't know that. Opened the Kabbalah Centre? Yes. 19 in America? No, in Jerusalem. Oh, it's called Yeshiva K' Yehuda. Oh, oh, the branch of that. We are, that is our lineage. Okay, fine, fine, fine. I really didn't know that. Wow. Okay.

And why was it under wraps until then, though, Billy? Do you know the reason?

The answer for that, as Rabbi Ashlag called it, the Iron Curtain. There's this iron curtain that's been concealing this wisdom. And, and there are forces. Darkness hates light. So the dark forces in our world prevented it. And the Zohar itself says it. The Zohar itself says it's the mixed multitude, the Erv Jews throughout history, who ignited, instigated the building of the golden calf, the hatred for no reason among Jews during the Second Temple era. They come in every generation. Not me saying this, it's the Zohar. They come in every generation, they seize, they seize power in the yeshivas, in the courts, in the secular governments, etc. And their job, by the way, they're just doing their job, right? Their job is to keep the wisdom from the people. And very important, it's very easy to blame the Erv. But they only get their power from me if I react, if I'm selfish, if I'm controlled by my ego, and I'm rude to my wife, my kids, my friends, business people, even if they deserve it, I'm feeding that negative power. And that gives the Erv power. So the government says, "Zohar is always corrupt." The establishment. But we created that government through our individual interactions. So again, it always falls upon us. We cannot surrender control to the establishment. No one is coming to save us, right? Right, right.

It's so important, Billy. We have to starve the beast. Yes, yes, yes. That's it. That's that's that's 6,000 years of wisdom in one sentence. You just said. So true. The beast. And it's over. It's over.

But you said something, Billy, in the course about how the arrogant will dismiss it. Why it's safe now is because, do you know what I'm referring to?

Okay, that's Rabbi Ashlag too.

Can you explain that to me again?

Yes. Rabbi Ashlag says one reason we don't have to worry now is that we can bring this wisdom out, but the world will be so materialistic, and there'll be so much progress in the world, that there'll be enough there to dazzle everybody's ego, to addict them, to attract them, you know, fame, celebrity, uh, uh, even today, social media. Everyone's, you know, they're addicted to to nonsense. So he says, if, when you bring the true wisdom out, that real arrogant, negative, evil people, they'll run away from it, right? It's not going to fulfill them, right? They're gonna want instant the fame, the glory, the, you know, the power over others. They're not going to be, now it's kind of safe now to unleash it. Okay. It's all part of the grand design, by the way, too. This is all the natural, by the way, evolutionary process to bring this wisdom to the world through a set time period. And we have to accelerate that. We could make it happen now, but it's unfolding. And right now, would say, you know, it's a combination of, yeah, we did instigate an acceleration of the process because the Zohar is out now. It is. It's everywhere. It could, you know, so it's a constant war to get it out there because it is the light. It is the light that radiates, you know, from the Creator, right?

So the next topic is a big one. Um, I grew up religious, and, and the best way to clear a room is to say the word Jesus. You know, it's, it's like, still to this day, you know, if I make a post about it, or my parents get mad at me, I'm afraid my high school principal will call me. So my question for you, Billy, is why, why, why the taboo? Why the anathema around Jesus? Why, why are we not supposed to talk about him?

The way I think about it, and the way I've heard it, is that there was an intentional protection from the Aod Zora aspect because Jesus was made into a God. So the rabbis intentionally made it so taboo to protect Jewish people from the false idol worship. That was one explanation I had heard. And then from you, um, I understood the concept of the anti-Kabbalists in the world, like they could have portrayed Jesus as a villain as a way to stop the spread of Zohar, because I've learned from you that Jesus was a Kabbalist. So I don't know if it was a protection, I don't know if it was both. Can you explain how you see it?

Yeah, well, I can just, instead of worrying about protecting ourselves from idol worshiping and Christianity and Jesus, stop the idol worshiping within. We Jews are idol worshiping every day. So that's the problem. Jesus is not the problem.

Um, how do you mean? How do you mean?

I'm saying they're so busy trying to keep us from Christianity, but they're not fixing our, our own internal, right? You know, uh, uh, fix yourself before you fix the world. Stop bringing what's out there. It's, it's what's within us. The enemy is always within. Yes.

Okay. So, but this whole Christianity, Jesus, Judaism, Islam, it's, it's all part of a pre-designed evolutionary process. So I'm not going to get into the weeds. I'm going to share what the Kabbalists say is really going on. I'm going to give you a condensed version because it's hours and hours, you know, it's, but I'll give you a simple version. So what's going on? 3,400 years ago, we were on Mount Sinai. We had the opportunity to bring revelation, Messiah, and end it. But we didn't really. We didn't really blow anything on Mount Sinai. It was a natural process that had to occur because the Israelites in the world had reached what's called the 49th gate of negativity. And if you reached the 50th gate of negativity, it would have destroyed the world because Satan had us by the throat in a death grip that would destroy the world. So what was Mount Sinai really all about? To release that grip. So there was this infusion of divine energy and light, bam, into the cosmos that leveled the playing field. And we were given tools now, at that point, this technology called the way of Torah, to transform ourselves so we don't reach that 49th gate again and transform ourselves enough to reach a critical mass of transformation to bring the Messiah, revelation again.

But you know what really happened too, as part of this process? It wasn't a building of the golden calf that was the problem. The Israelites had certainty in idols and negativity and addiction to negativity in Egypt. That, that's the real slavery that was happening within. And Egypt was what's H, was the reflection of that externally. Okay. Long comes Moses to take us out of Egypt, which means to take us out of our own ego and slavery. And, and when we had this situation at the Red Sea, when we saw the 10 plagues, you know, it was a battle about our certainty in the light, not certainty in slavery, right? It's so easy to believe in, you know, pessimism. Oh, God. But it's so hard to believe something's positive. Like we always say, "It's too good to be true." We have certainty in our doubts and worry. We have doubts in everything that could be good. That's the inner Satan. That's the inner opponent. Okay. So that's the real slavery going on. He controls us. Okay. And then it manifests physically in the material world as us being enslaved in Egypt. Okay.

What happened at Mount Sinai? They saw all these miracles, the 10 plagues, which are a reflection of the 10 dimensions, the 10 Sefirot. Okay? Now, there's a positive 10-dimension Sefirot, the Tree of Life, and then there's the negative side, which Satan uses. The negative force that the tend because as, okay, there's parallel worlds, Tree of Life, Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The 10 de, the 10 plagues were striking at the 10 dimensions of the dark side to destroy the whole system. And that would free us. Ah, we're free. Okay. And then we could leave Egypt. We get to Mount Sinai. Moses is gone. He's, he's missing. You know, we think he's missing. Uh, while he's gone, um, the Jews begin to panic. The key that all we had to do is have certainty in the light. The Satan goes to Hashem and says, "Let me test these people. They complain, they whine, they they nag. Every time there's a miracle, they're complaining. Moses, take us back to Egypt. You brought us in the desert to die." These people haven't transformed yet. Now they're at Mount Sinai. They even fell asleep at one point. H, H, let me test them. They're not ready for revelation. So he, God says, "Okay, test them."

So it was as real as you seeing me now. When the Israelites were worried, "Where's Moses? Why didn't he come back down from the mountain?" He's six hours late, which is a code for the six dimensions. I don't want to get too complicated. Take my course. Satan conjured up an image, as real as you and I, of Moses being taken to heaven because he was dead. Now, how many of us would say, "God forbid, when a loved one passes, that's an illusion? It's not real." Have certainty. We can't do it. So in the way I understand the Israelites, that was hard. They saw he's dead. But when they saw he was dead, their consciousness fell back into uncertainty. That was the real sin. That's what then caused the building of the golden calf. Because they're not stupid. Jews aren't stupid. We're stiff-necked, but we're not stupid. So they weren't building a a cow to worship it. It was technology. They built the cow, the calf. Gold is a great conductor, right? Our stereo speakers are made of gold, you know, gold-plated. It's a wonderful conductor of electricity. Gold is a wonderful conductor of spiritual energy. They built that golden calf because they thought, "We lost our connection. We love this energy of Mount Sinai. We got to reconnect." Okay. But that their consciousness had fallen. And that's what caused the shattering of the tablets. They literally fell out of Moses's hands when he saw the golden calf because their consciences also fell. They thought Moses was dead. They threw everything out the window with their consciousness. "Oh, Moses is dead." After the Red Sea split, after all the plagues, after experiencing Mount Sinai, you're not, and that's what happened.

Now, there was an opportunity for a second revelation 2,000 years ago. The two tablets of Moses, which is the conduit to connect us to the full 10 dimensions and channel that light into our universe, that light of immortality, bliss, Messiah, everything. Re-resurrected as the two temples that stood in Jerusalem. Temple number one was destroyed, emulating the shattering of one of the tablets. But we had an opportunity with Temple number two. And so that's why you see in that generation, Rabbi Akiva, Rabbi Meir, Rabbi Gamliel, all the great Kabbalists, including Rabbi Yehoshua ben Yosef, which is came to be known as Jesus. Okay? So the, there was an opportunity to bring this wisdom to the masses again, to do another revelation. Once again, the Jews' hatred between each other for no reason, the temple was, was completely corrupted, was idol worshiping, payoffs, and scandal, and even murder amongst the Jews. So the temple shattered. Second tablet shattering all over again. They would have, now, this is what my teacher taught me and other Kabbalists. The hatred and jealousy and envy and the Shan between the Jews was so great that when they would go to the Torah and go to the Second Temple, they're broadcasting all this negativity into the cosmos, right? We're supposed to be a light unto all the other nations, instead we're putting out all this negativity. And that's why the temple was shattered. Take it away from the Israelites, from the Jews. They're, they're destroying the world. So instead of us destroying the world through the Torah and the Second Temple, broadcasting our envy and jealousy and victimhood and "look what he did to me," it was shattered.

Now, they would be exiled, according to, you know, the Torah, into an idol-worshipping nation. So Christianity was built to be that idol-worshipping nation. But God didn't want to abandon us, obviously. This is from now, Kabbalist Rabbi Moses David Valli, who was the teacher of Ramal, Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, and then he became his colleague when he saw the greatness of Rabbi Moshe, you know, Cordovero. So Moses David Valli says that God didn't want to abandon us, both us and the Gentiles. He wanted us, so, you know, furnish us with an umbilical cord, a connection to the Torah. But he also had to fulfill a decree that the Jews had to live in an idol-worshipping nation amongst the Gentiles. As Rav Berg said, the gentile people who they will, you know, slowly, generation after generation, have their ugly egos washed away. The, the Jews at that time would be would assimilate into Christianity amongst, you know, the righteous Gentiles. Any negative Gentiles, reflection of us, we created. Okay?

So the secrets of the Torah, the Zohar, were put into Christianity. This acts as a lifeline. So if you took the secrets of the Zohar literally, Son of God, Trinity, it all comes from the Zohar and Judaism, believe it or not. It's idol worshiping. But the moment you put on the lens of Zohar Kabbalah, you look at it through that lens, you understand what it really means. It's pure Torah. And this was God's way of fulfilling the decree but not leaving them abandoned. So that when it is time for redemption, both the Gentile nations will realize, "Oh my God, everything about Jesus, it's really Torah." And they'll come back. And the Jews will transform through the power of the Zohar and serve their role, which is to bring the Zohar, because Zohar is the light of Messiah. That's the light. That's the, it's the light of the second tablets that Moses had, that which will bring the redemption when we transform. I can't go into the details now, but we'll have, we'll have that Zohar energy and bring it to the world. So that was really the design, you know what I'm saying? So it was created. It wasn't like, "Oh, there was a mistake." You know, uh, uh, "Why did Jesus?" And, by the way, it wasn't Jesus. It wasn't Rabbi Yeshua. It was Paul. Right? Paul was sent by the Sanhedrin to build.

Okay, so I need to know, really, where, where's that from? That, where did you hear that?

Because I had that was revolutionary. Where did you hear that?

Oh, that's common amongst a few Orthodox rabbis in history. I forget who, but Rav Berg told me.

Okay, fine. Okay. But there's more to it. And this goes back to Rashi. And I did a lecture, so it's on my site on it. That it was Peter who actually wrote up all the tenets, all the doctrines of Christianity. The Apostle Peter, whose name is even in the New Testament, Shimon bar Yona.

Okay, okay. Who really created the structure of Christianity? So Paul, a role in terms of, you know, he used to persecute Jesus, but then he's the one who, you know, started gathering people and, you know, but it was Peter, Shimon Bar Yona, who actually constructed Christianity. So it was done, just to clarify, it was done with intentionality by the Sanhedrin to create Christianity. Yes. And using Peter, who Shimon, great sage, great Kabbalist, to actually do the encoding of Zohar. Remember, when, what is Zohar? This C, no one knows this.

Billy, a lot of people do. A lot in the closed Orthodox community don't know this. Yeah, yeah. Look, there's a prayer we do every Passover, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and every Shabbat, Nishmat Chai. Right? Was written by Peter. Peter. I just read that somewhere. Yeah, yeah. It was written by Peter. So the rabbis do know it. Uh, uh, uh, but they don't talk about it. Why don't they talk about it? Because it's up to us, the people. The rabbis, either they're corrupted or they're afraid. Whatever reason. But it's also by design because no rabbi's going to save us, right? No government's going to save us. We have to do it. A guy named Billy, just a guy. But who gave me the wisdom? My teacher. And like, so it's happening now. It's our job. And everybody who hears us today has to go inside, get rid of your skepticism, whatever's triggering you, and look for the light. Know if you're being triggered, it's your Satan. And if you say, "Yeah, but that's also Satan," you got to fight that. And then bring this fight to the nations. Look, Kabbalist brother, Yehuda Ashlag says the, the prerequisite for bringing Messiah is bringing this wisdom of Zohar to the Gentile nations. That's it. And the Jews? Yeah, but the Jews will come later. Why do they say the Gentiles first? Because Jews don't change. Oh, when the Jews see that, when the Jews see the Christians are now adopting it, and they're loving Zohar, and they're coming back to Torah and understanding what's really going on, uh, then the Jews will will begin to. That's interesting. But there will be an army of Israelites, which I consider you to be, and everybody, you know, who the, the small few who will bring that wisdom to the masses. I just read it in the Zohar yesterday. Yesterday. It's for, uh, Parshat Pinchas. It says there are, you know, majority of Jews who don't understand the secrets of Torah. So how, where's their role in the redemption? Their role is to learn from the few who do know the secrets, to bring it to them, and then they will bring it to the masses, as well as the few. As well. So the Zohar says it like this, in Parshat Pinchas, the Zohar says the Israelites, we're all one body of humanity, but like a body is made up of diverse organs, a liver, a kidney, a spleen, a heart. The Israelites are the heart of the body. And what does the heart do? It pumps the blood to nourish all the organs. If the heart does not do its job, if there's blockages, the artery, if the heart becomes weak, and those blockages are our ego and the negativity we do, then the other organs don't receive their light. And then, you know, gangrene can set in in the foot. Anti-Semitism is metaphysical gangrene. It's from a lack of blood flow, light flow to other nations by the Israelites, because we, not the Gentiles, we have the biggest Satan within us, us, because we are the biggest channels for the world. So we have to take down Satan. And when we do, we are the greatest distributors, you know, radiators of light for the cosmos. And that's why it says we need, we came to be a light unto all the nations. You know, that's what you did for me, Billy. You shifted the focus. You asked me earlier, one of the biggest things you did for me was made me understand that to hold myself in radical accountability. Radical accountability. Because we want to say, scream anti-Semitism, we want to blame the external for our woes. But when we change on the inside, the whole external. And, and the enemy knew to go for the heart, you know, the enemy knew. And the enemy knew to get other people on board with him, you know, to make, yeah, because what you said before, you said, "Starve the beast." Well, the enemy said, "Starve the other organs in the body. Stop the heart flow. Stop the blood flow." Right? And then the other nations automatically hate us because they, they're really saying subconsciously, "Jews, give me my blood. Give me my light." Right? They don't want the land. They want the light. But if you don't give them the light, they're going to take the land and your bodies. You really impressed me with your grasp of this, Billy. Like, I'm amazed. Amazed.

Okay, is Christianity considered a, what did Rav Berg say about that?

Well, that's that's the beauty of what Rabbi Moses David Valli says. Depends how you look at it. If you take Christianity literally, idol worshiping. If you understand the secrets of Zohar, you go, "Oh, look what Peter did. It's really Torah." So it's all relative. Theory of relativity. It's relative to the individual, right? If, if you're full of ego, you're gonna, you're gonna look at Christianity like it's idol worshiping because you're worshiping your ego. If you beat up your ego and truly transform, that means you got the wisdom of Zohar, you'll see, "Oh my God." And you and then you'll be privy to hear the secrets, which we haven't revealed yet. I don't know if you can reveal them now, but our course does. How the whole Passion of the Christ, the whole story, it's a code for the Tetragrammaton, right? V. It's got nothing to do with what traditional Christianity believes. But that's okay, because as Rabbi Moses David Valli says, they're supposed to hang on to Jesus. They're worshiping a Jew. They're hanging on to him. And Rabbi Moses David Valli quotes Zechariah, I forget the verse, where it says, "There will be a Jew, and the nations will hang on to his seat, to his shirt, you know, saying, 'We know God is with you.'" So they're hanging on to Jesus because that's their lifeline to the Torah.

So who created the anathema? Who created the taboo on Jesus?

A of, okay, fine. Mixed multitude. Okay. The theory says, run the yeshivas, run the courts, run the synagogues, run the secular government. It was the Erv, in every generation. But we cannot blame them. It's us. Radical accountability. Yeah.

Um, why did Moser Abino take out the Aramaic? Do you know?

Because I mean, it was, listen, big picture, it was supposed to happen, okay? Like I said, Mount Sinai, really, what really, in a deeper level, wasn't about, we missed the opportunity for revelation. That was baked into the cake. What really, what really Mount Sinai was for was to just get Satan's hands off our throat, level the playing field, because we were approaching the 50th gate, which would have destroyed the world. So that all really happened just to start all over again and give us the tools now to fight Satan, which is the path of Torah. That's the tools. But Satan then came along and created a religion. That's the secret of the golden calf. It's about religion. Religion. "Jesus will do it for me. My rabbi will do it for me. My accountant will do it for me. You know, the government will do it for me." You know, so we, we created an organized religion instead of a path where each individual can go within, using the Torah, using the path, and upper with the ego. But the ego, look at the world. Look how strong it is. The ego has the microphone. So it, of the negative people in the world control the whole world on the through the news, through the media, through the, how come? But 90% of the people are good. Well, how come they're controlling everything? You know, so it's strong. The negative. We're waking up to that. More and more people are waking up to that. 1% realization. Yes.

Um, it triggers me about when you say organized religion because, like, we have to be organized. We're Jews, you know, we have to have a do a lot of the rituals. Get So when you say organized religion, I, I kind of get triggered because I'm part of that world. Can you explain that?

Yes. So I'm not saying that I learned that we're supposed to get rid of the technology. But that's what it is. Torah is a technology. To fill in is a technology. The whole binding of the left side, which is the ego side, right? Is your soul. Left. Everything is a technology. When you study Zohar, you begin to see, "Oh my God, this thing is genius. It's brilliant." We're not saying do away with that. We're saying do away with the consciousness of organized religion, where they're giving an Aliyah to the guy who bids the highest. Then you blew the whole consciousness. Now, idol, you know, money is now the is what you're worshiping instead of who's got the consciousness that could channel that specific Aliyah, which corresponds to a specific Sefira in the 10 dimensions and a specific chariot, Joseph for Moses or or Aaron and. But the rabbis don't, who don't have that information. So that, you know, the highest bidder gets it. And this guy deserves honor and honor. It stinks. Yeah. Did it work? It doesn't work. So unfortunately, there's only a handful of you know, Rav Berg hated the word synagogue, sanctuary. We always called it the war room.

I like that. It's a war room. We're the other way to war in our ego. That's what that's what we have the Torah for. Every week, wage war and another aspect of your ego. Because if you remove your blockages, the light will fill you. Doesn't have to be your rabbi who does it. But the rabbis are there as a channel as well. These are true Kabbalistic rabbis to bring down that light. And then it gets distributed amongst the the recipients. And and everyone's working together, using technology to wage war against the dark side. And being smart by realizing the dark side begins within. It's not about morals.

When you say all this, I start to feel a little defeated because it feels so far away. It feels like, and that's Satan, hopelessness. We're so close because the crazier the world gets, there's always perfect balance. There's equal amount of light. So when you start feeling hopeless, wow, good sign. He's scared. He doesn't want you to sense how close we really are. Certainty. I needed that. Giving you certainty in your hopelessness. Have certainty in no, we're right there. And I can change. And I can solve any problem in my life using Torah. Any problem. Any problem.

Don't ask God. God doesn't say yes or no. God is just light. If you don't take your lamp and plug it into the wall socket, to the electricity, the light won't go on. You gotta plug into to God. He doesn't say yes or no. No means you didn't plug in. You didn't flip the light switch. God is just an infinite, endless energy of only goodness and light that we, through our free will, learn how to connect to, to put the light on in every aspect of our life. It's a constant work until we finally reach a critical mass of light. There's light than darkness. And we could be there at any moment. It could pop off any second. Any moment. Could be your neighbor. He does one kind action and that tips the scale. Bo. Yeah.

Okay, the Baal Shem Tov, I once heard a story that he took, he wanted to take Jesus out of Gehenna, but he ended up sending him back. Have you heard this story?

No. Can't comment. Never heard it.

Okay. Can I give you an opinion? Please. It's not directly related to that one, but I heard a nice story just a couple weeks ago, which I'll. Okay. Where one of the great Kabbalists, I forget who it was, uh, went to God and said, "Come on, why can't you bring Messiah now? Bring it now. Why do you keep delaying and delaying and delaying?" And he says, "Look, if we bring Mashiach now, the majority of Jews won't be part of the world to come." Oh, they haven't transformed yet. Do you want it now or you want it later when they can all participate? So he said, "Later." So like before you come out and the truth of Jesus comes out, who he really is, what it really means. No, no, no. We're not ready yet.

Oh, Billy, because, go ahead, finish.

But here's the key thing. Through the Zohar, we can end it now with mercy. Because the Zohar is light. And if you study even science, Einstein's theory of relativity proves that when a photon, which is a particle of light, is traveling at light speed, there's no time and there's no space from the perspective of the particle of light. Okay? It's called time dilation. Time shrinks to zero. And it's called length contraction. Space shrinks to zero. So when you're in a realm of light, there's no future anymore. It's right now. You're being the Messiah. What's killing us, delaying us, is that we're creating time. And it's the ego that creates time. So deep, so deep. It's light that gets rid of time. We're, we're here to remove time, to bring the future into the present. And the Zohar is the light of Torah. The Torah is the body, the Zohar is the soul. It's your soul is above time and space. That's why I said, "Spread the Zohar. Spread the Zohar." It's not any more complicated than that. If you spread the Zohar, meaning you live it, you share the books, or you whatever, you just scan it or read it, uh, uh, and, and share those books. How? That's all under the heading, "Share the Zohar." More light. You're taking away the future. You're bringing to the present. You're removing.

Time and space, happening now. It's all happening now. Yes, that's where things are accelerating. Yes, we can get. Yes, so the Zohar, the Zohar is like the emergency, you know, exit button, to get out of jail card. If we get enough Zohar, all the calculations, all the sins, everything are washed away by the light. And everyone is included in Gula. Everybody, all, all the nations, all the nations. But the Israelites will serve the, the role as the heart to all the nations, right? Pumping the blood. Yeah. So everyone, yeah. So, yeah. So we all have different functions and different roles. Um, but all nations participate, right? All, all righteous nations, right? I always had this feeling inside me that it's, it's the rock that you're most afraid of lifting is where Gula is hiding. And I always felt like that rock is, is Jesus, you know, because every Jew was afraid to touch it and lift it and see what the truth was about his life. And I feel that truth is like, it's like the grit for the wheels of Gula. Like we get traction from the truth. I heard you in your course say that Jesus, Yeshua, was the Messiah Ben Yosef of his time. Yes, Rabbi Moses David Valley, uh, Kabbalist Rabbi Abraham Abulafia, common. Jesus was the potential Messiah Ben Yosef of his time. That's explosive. I don't know if you realize how explosive that is. I'll go, "Bom!" Better. You know what it says in the Zohar? What? There's a big debate, right? All the, all the, all the traditional rabbis like to say, "Messiah has not come yet, and he doesn't die and come back a second time." Wrong. Oh boy. In Zohar, is it? I think it's in Balak where it says, "It's all again." Because, you know, because again, Christianity, it's not about, okay, literal. It says in the right. It's not literally. It says in the Zohar, "Messiah Ben Yosef will come and he will die on this hill, which is the letter you have, Yud, K, V, K." So it says, "He will die in the hill, which is the lower Hey." Jesus died on a hill in Golgotha. Gotha lies at the tip of the letter Yud in the Zohar. Okay, that's where. There, it's called the skull. And it's not L. Well, it means that's just, they're using anthropomorphic terms in the Zohar to explain how the sphere art work, how the T sphere art work, and how they manifest in, in the name of God, in the Tetragrammaton. So it says, "The letter V is the holy son, the Messiah." And Messiah Ben Yosef connects to that letter VAV. And he will be on the hill, which is beneath Golgotha. The Y. He's at the final Hey. And he'll die on that hill. And then he'll return. So there it is, right in the Zohar, right? He dies and returns. Mik. Well, can I tell you my theory about that? Yeah. Just heard from Rabbi Mendel Kassen that Yeshua, I don't know if you ever heard this, was a reincarnation of Asaf. That Yos. Yes, of course. And he also says that Trump is the to, as the good aspect of Asaf. So I was conjecturing, theorizing, that it's the same soul with the same mission, the Messiah Ben Yosef of eradicating, e, anti-establishment, eradicating evil from the face of. I mean, there's no one more anti-establishment right now on the world stage than our boy Trump. So my theory is that it could be that that's the second coming. He, he, he does not say what Rabbi Mendel Kassen, that Trump is the Messiah. No, he doesn't. I want. I say that he doesn't say that, right? He says, he says that Marcus Aurelius, who with Yehuda Hanasi, right? They call him Rebbe, was friends with Marcus Aurelius 2,000 years ago. And Marcus Aurelius gave permission for the first yeshivas to be built. And that's paved the way for the Mishnah. It saved Judaism, right? And that Marcus Aurelius is the reincarnation of, of, uh, Asaf. And, and, and he connects Yeshua. He doesn't talk about Yeshua. He talks about Asaf. K won't go there. I don't think he goes. He talks about Asaf and Aurelius coming back. And that's, he saids that's who Trump is to pave the way for Messiah. Not that Trump, Mashiach. He'll pave the way for the Mashiach. To save. Marcus worked with Yehuda Hanasi to save, bring the Mishnah, to save Judaism. H. H. Uh, he, he reincarnates. And that could be Trump, who will then again save Judaism. Meaning he'll unleash, he'll do what's necessary to destroy the negative nations. Doesn't be physical war. And that will bring, uh, the Messiah. And, and, yeah, he doesn't go to, he doesn't go to the extreme that I go to. But the way that I see it is that, you know, Trump, there's two phases. This is, I learned from a book called The Kator by a stud. You know, exactly. So in that book, it made me understand the two phases. The, the ground phase of the Mashiach process, Mashiach Ben Yosef phase, leads up to the galactic phase or the supernatural phase of Mashiach Ben David. And they kind of hand one stick to the other. Yes. Mashiach Ben Yosef comes to wage war, right? Which is the war. But the, but it should be the war in our consciousness to wake up the Jews to wage the proper war. If you don't wage war on your consciousness, you'll wage war against, you know, uh, anti-Semites. Right? No, but I think that Trump is involved in a reversal of the scope, a reversal of the, the sleep that we've all been in. He's showing us who is who. He's showing us there's a great reveal happening, I think, through his hand. And I don't know, it's just my personal theory that, yeah, he could, he could be it. That's, yeah. So the, you know, if the Rebbe were sitting here would say, "Nice theory, but we don't care about anybody's theories. Just quote. Just quote the Kabbalah." But now, having said that, now I'll talk about my own personal opinion. It's, that's it. I agree with you. Something's going on. And the 1% work and this hatred towards Trump, I mean, it's mystical. It's absolutely, in my opinion. No quotes. But the Rebbe did say, my teacher did say back in the late '80s or early '90s about Trump being president one day. He did. Bob Berg said that. Rabbi Berg said that. Yeah, back in the late '80s, early '90s. What he said? You remember the word? He said, you know, he talking about Trump and who he is and, and he just, you know, you know, it was like, I think it was after a morning, uh, lecture, he just talking to the students around him going, "You know, Trump, and, you know, president, he'll be president." Was he a fan of Trump? Don't know, right? But he is a fan of counterculture people. He likes the sca, like the BAM. He always, that's why he got me. He loves the scoundrels, the rascals, the thieves, the crooks. Me too, because we can transform. Right? Greater arc of transformation, greater character arc. Someone who's born righteous, lives righteous, and dies righteous, doesn't reveal a lot of light in the world. He brings blessing and helps people, but there's no trans, it's transformation. The arc. If you go from a little bad to a little good, small arc light. If you go from terrible to wonderful, huge arc. It's the arc of transformation. We need to bring Mashiach. That's why Mashiach, it says, goes into the Kipa. He goes into the dark side. Jesus in hell. It's, that's into the, the most negative becomes the most righteous. M. You, if you want to win a championship fight, if you want to beat Mike Tyson, you gotta get into the ring. Yes. You want to take down Satan, you gotta get into the ring. We get into the ring in a small scale. The Messiah gets into the ring in a big scale. So he'll be negative and cursed out. And then when he transforms and destroys him within that arc of transformation, massive. And that brings great light into the world. But we're obsessed with, "Oh, he's good, he's righteous, he's holy." No, give me the scoundrels and let them change. Just a little bit, right? And I think God loves to surprise us, you know, to shock us. It says in the Gemara, Sanhedrin 99B, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi met the Prophet Elijah, who was standing at the entrance of the cave of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai. And they go on to talk about in that conversation, "When is Mashiach coming? Who is Mashiach?" And it says that Mashiach is waiting at the gates of Rome, taking only one bandage off at a time because he wants to be ready to go. He's sitting with the lepers. The way my brain understood this is that there's a lot of winks and nods in this Gemara, a lot of illusions. I understood that, um, the Mashiach is looking at Rome to show us, guys, that's, this is where the epicenter of the control and the lies came from. And Messiah understands that when we start to peel back who is Jesus, what is Zohar, why were, why do the Jews think he was a villain? Why do the Christians think he was a God? When we all start to come to a mutual understanding around this one big nut, you know, this one big wound inflicted on humanity, we're going to, he's going to have to run. Mashiach is gonna have to get up and run because it's gonna be go time. Um, so what, what I thought of you, Billy, was when it, it said the conversation opens at the entrance of the cave of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai with Elijah. Tell me what you think about that. You know, Elijah and a V represents the wisdom of Zohar. He represents the secret. He taught Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai in the cave, right? So, uh, and interestingly, uh, H, uh, okay, I don't want to go there. So, oh, I hate when you don't. Complicated. And I don't have enough information to share. But yes, I agree with you that obviously that section holds insane secrets, right? Secrets. They were in on it. They, they were in on all of this behind the scenes orchestration of the Zohar being implanted into Christianity. I mean, this unravels the whole damn thing. Absolutely. The Zohar says, I mean, it's, it, it triggers because I get uncomfortable sharing it many times because I'm going, "Oh, everyone who knows is gonna think I'm Jews for Jesus." I know. It's so. I'm gonna say, "Now is the hardest space to traverse to understand what I'm going to say." The Zohar says, "The Yud is the Father, the Hey is the Holy Spirit, and the VAV is the Holy Son." That's the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the Trinity. The Trinity. Now, when you hear that, you go, "They think people, you're gut reaction, it's validating Christianity." No, Christianity validates the Torah. You know, Trinity is, and I hate the term Trinity because it's, it has 2,000 years of connotation, and words have power. So when you hear it, it is going to trigger you. Your job is to shut down the triggering because that's Satan. He doesn't want to know the truth. And realizes it's all Torah. That's why when you open a Torah scroll and you're reading it, you should have three columns for the three columns, the Tree of Life. It tends for what? Three columns, Trinity, right, left, center. It's three. Uh, we have three meals on Shabbat. You need the three to create the oneness with the light. It's, you know, in the Zohar is the mystery of three in one and one from three. The mystery of three in one and one from three. It's Zohar, which is, and they put in Christianity to trick everybody. Because if you take it literally, it's out worshiping. So you think Torah, it's Torah, it's Torah, Torah. It's just, it's just mind-blowing. It's just completely, it shakes you out of, out of the stupor. It's enough. It's enough to take you right out of the lies. Um, but do you think, Billy, that the rabbis orchestrated all of this? We did. We empowered the rabbis to our history through our negative behavior. But of course, yes. Arc of a mixed multitude, lies and lies and lies, like we see today going on in the media. This, this is not new. Everything you're seeing today is not new. It's been going on through centuries. What it's been happening, says Kabbalists, Rebbe Berg. It's just been hidden under the rug. But when the Zohar shines in the world now, you see here all the garbage that's been hidden all along. So it's forcing it out. It's the same corruption, the same media control, the media throughout history. When there was just messengers walking around verbally spreading lies, spreading lies. But it's our fault because we listen to our ego. And he gives us lies. He tells you to judge somebody. And that's a lie because you don't see their soul. You see their ego. So it's your ego judging someone else's ego. And your soul and their soul are left out of the picture. They're buried, hidden away. Right? When you're mad at somebody, if someone says something that bothers you, if you saw with special glasses, "Oh, they didn't mean it. It was their Satan who did it." And then you, and, and you had glasses and saw, "And it's Satan making me mad at that person." It's over. It's over. Game over. But the greatest trick the devil pulled is what? Making us believe he didn't exist. Yeah. So we don't believe it's our ego. But Billy, on the flip side of that, do you think the rabbis like transported Zohar intentionally inside the vessel of Christianity? The Sanhedrin, transport. I think, and Yeshua got together and masterminded the, the Christianity be the vessel to hold Zohar. I told you it was Peter. Okay, fine. Peter. So in my story from the same guy who wrote Nishmat HaChaim, that guy. Yes, yes, yes. And it goes back to Rashi. Rashi, there's even a ver. It's, it's, it's, it's heavy. It's heavy scholarly work to prove what Rashi says. But even Rashi acknowledges it. Tell me. Can you tell me? No, it's too complicated because you gotta go. I gotta like this paper. Okay, fine. If you want to know the story, let me give you his name. He did all, he, he did most of the work. And I spoke to him many times. Okay. What's his name? Oh boy, oh boy. I forget his name. I, I'll, I'll email it to you. Then you can post it. Okay. I don't know how to see the question. The whole process to show it's to do with the fast of Tishrei. There's a fast of Tishrei. And we're really celebrating Rebbe. We're really celebrating Peter. Yeah. We're, because no one knows who we're celebrating. How crazy is that? Yeah. It's Peter. So it was, uh, Rabbi Shimon. I'll tell you one thing. Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai told Jesus, "Do not try and expose the corruption." What he, he tried to stop him. So why did Jesus go ahead with it? Tell me. Why? He said, he said, in essence, "It's, it's your ego." Like, now, it's not at the time. But Jesus's wife, Miriam, told him, "Fulfill your destiny. You've got, you got to stop this corruption." You know. And Rabbi Shimon said, "You're gonna kill you. They're too powerful." Was it a mistake? Was it a mistake? Nothing's a mistake because it's all part of the grand. Nothing's a mistake. But did he act impulsively? Jesus? Like, was that maybe why he was put in Gehenna, quote unquote? I don't, I don't know. I haven't discussed that. I don't know if he went. If he was there. I don't know. You know, the rabbis changed the manuscripts. The Rebbe told me, "You can't trust the books." They, the war in history. The real war was not fought on battlefields. They were fought in the books. So the whole section of Jesus going to hell could be all lies. I don't know. But, but there are lies about Jesus that have been written throughout history. They tried to, they tried to put lies into the Zohar. Many things to discredit the Zohar. So that's what I just share what my teacher said, what Rabbi Moses David Valley says, what The Zohar says, what Ramal says, what Mo Abulafia. And then it becomes self-evident. And then you see the secrets that are. Then you realize. So Rabbi Shimon and Jesus lived at the same time. The Rebbe told me the timeline is all lies, manipulated. Everything. Look at the media works today. The, if you watch CNN, you hear one story. If you watch Fox, you hear another story. And like two different realities. Absolutely. Everyone buys into the reality that resonates with their own state of consciousness, wherever they are. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong. No politics here. Just two realities. So the lies have been going on throughout history. And they would change the books. And they would put things in there to discredit it. So they may put something in the Zohar that says, "Oh, they think, oh, it only came from the 13th century." You know, because there's some, there's a reference here. They were tampering with the manuscripts. The wars that went on when they first printed the Zohar, the first ever printing, there were two printings happening simultaneously in the city of Cremona, the city of Mantua. It's been a war since day one for the light versus darkness. So Rabbi Shimon and Jesus were contemporaries. Yes. And Rabbi Shimon understood that it wasn't the time. And Jesus really didn't. Jesus also knew it wasn't the time. He says it in the New Testament. Oh, he says that he knew he was his student made run for it anyway. His disciples. No, he wanted to expose the corruption. He didn't want. He knew it wasn't right. He wanted. Oh, he didn't want to bring the Gula necessarily. He wanted to expose the corruption. He thought that would be the way. Oh, okay. Okay. And that's not the way. You got to spread the light. But Jesus, he said, you know, his disciples said, "Why are you speaking in parables?" Right? He says, "Because so they'll hear but won't understand." Understand? Only you guys get the secrets, right? And the secrets. Enough light in the parables holds light as well. Yes, yes. Like the story you just told now from the Tet about sitting at the gates of Rome. It's a parable. It's a parable. What's? What are they really trying to tell us? That's what I always look for now. It's a total. The Zohar retrains you to decode reality. You have to decode. Yes. People are asking questions. Billy, I just don't know how to open that part. Oh, I can see them. Hold on. How do you do it? Can you tell me what you're clicking on? Yeah, I'm just reading it. I, if you click on your, uh, it should be participants. And you can click also chat. You'll see questions in the chat. Okay. Oh boy. Lot. Okay, let me see here. See if anything calls out. Yes. So someone said, "But did Jesus not die on the tree?" So it says in the Zohar, sorry, it says in the New Testament, five locations he was hung in a tree. There's no word "cross" in the, uh, New Testament. And so when you talk to scholars or theologians of Christianity, they say, "You got to take the New Testament literally. Literally." That's their thing, right? During Paul's time, it was the reason Christians came to Jesus because he revealed secrets. And early Christianity was all about the secrets. But then when Constantine took over, it was all about the literal meaning. So that literal meaning, because that's how you hide the secrets. So if you talk to a theologian today, that it's the word of God, you take it literally. Well, then Hakham says he was hung in a tree. Well, it's a metaphor. You just said you got to take it literally. Can't have it both ways. So, you know, there's so much discrepancy, right? Uh, uh, uh, yeah. So he was hung in a tree. And that, that coincides with, uh, ancient Jewish teachings as well. But he was slaughtered for trying to bring the wisdom. And, you know, for who he was. And, and it says in the Zohar that Messiah Ben Yosef will be killed. And then he will return. And why do they have Jesus wearing a crown of thorns on that cross, which is really the Tetragrammaton? Why, why was he wearing a crown of thorns? The tip of the Yud is called the Thorn. It's also called the Crown, Keter. It's referring to the Yud. And what's Golgotha, where he was? That's also in the tip of the Yud in the Zohar. It's called Golgotha, the skull. Of the skull. And why was Golgotha on the hill? That's the Hey. And what's the Father? It's the Yud. What's the Holy Spirit? It's the Hey. So you have the Yud and the Hey. And then who's the Holy Son? Says the Zohar, the letter VAV. And why did Jesus wear a purple robe? Says no Zohar. The Holy Son, Tiferet, wears a purple garment. And why did Jesus have a spear that, that, that stuck him in the side? The Zohar says, and the Holy Son in the purple garment, uh, uh, beneath the skull, the Golgotha, there are spears of judgment. There. It's all about the Yud, K, V, K. That's why Jesus never talks about God. He talks about the Father, Abba Father, because the Yud is the Father. And it talks about the Son in Christianity because that is the VAV. They talk about the Holy Spirit, that is the Hey. They just don't know. It's fascinating. Jesus talks about the Father, the Father, the Father. The Yud is the Father in the Zohar. Well, when you, what I hear every time you talk is that the New Testament decodes into Zohar. Yes. That's, that's all you. Concept. You don't have to memorize all the details. I'm not one that's great with details. But I just understand the broad concept. The New Testament on the decode, trans becomes, is, is Zohar. Is Torah. And, you know what, Billy? The Jews are just as guilty in terms of learning surface, literal level Torah. I hate to say it. My whole life, we're just, just, just guilty. We cause that. Right, right, right, right. I always forget. We cause that. I always forget. We're the light, the heart. We got, you know, if there's a lack of blood flow, you get a heart attack. You get gangrene in the leg, or you get disease. The organs in the body need the blood. We came to bring the light. And we don't. Whatever we're seeing in the world is really something we're doing wrong. Yes. We control everything. Well, I saw you reading the questions, Billy. Go ahead and go back and see if there's anything else. So someone's asking, "Can we receive the Holy Spirit on Shavuot?" No, you could read something. Yes, but you could receive something better. What really happened on Mount Sinai? This is another secret, I think, to most, uh, practicing Jews. Mount Sinai was immortality. It was immortality. The light, Shechinah, so bright, death was swallowed up. Now, that infusion of immortality energy, that light, that infusion into the world, uh, uh, every nation on Earth experienced it. They heard revelation in their own language, okay? Wherever there were people at that time. What happened when the Shechinah, when the, uh, tablets shattered? Death was reborn. That was the birth of anti-Semitism. Geez, you blew it for all of us. We want that light back. And they know it in their soul, every generation. Okay? So what can you receive on Shavuot? Immortality. It's not just the Holy Spirit. You want to end this game of life and death, ordering chaos. We just want life and order and happiness. And the Satan inside of us is going to say, "Too good to be true. Can't be done." But what about this? It's impossible. It'll show you all the reasons why not. And your job as an Israelite, rise above the doubts and put your certainty into the light that it will happen. It can happen. You can make it happen. And we have a critical mass of people who achieve that consciousness, at least striving for it. You'll reach a critical mass. It's over. All of a sudden, the Messiah will appear. Oh, when, Billy? Two more things. Can you talk about this comet that's coming? Anything else there? Yeah, very simple. I'll just tell you right now. Yeah, the qu. I'm sorry, let me read the question. How can we overcome the that says women and Gentiles are are not allowed to learn Zohar? The Kabbalists removed the decree, the prohibition. I told you, 1541. Anyone can learn Zohar. And Rabbi Ashlag himself says, "The prerequisite, the precondition to Messiah is Zohar in the hands of the Gentiles." That's the only way they're going to understand that the whole Jesus parable, that's all the New Testament is. It's a parable, a beautiful, profound parable. Take away the paganism that was put into it just to attract people. It's a parable for the name of God, the Tetragrammaton. And that's how, that's how it held on to these people, the Gentiles. And, you know, how many Jews assimilated into Christianity over the last 2,000 years? Probably 70%, I'm guessing now. But the Rebbe did say, probably 70, 80% of the Christians in Latin America, Jews, biological blood Jews, not soul Jews, biological soul Jews, uh, uh, who, who converted over the deck. And who's China? The tribe of Reuben. Where's all the Jews supposed to be? More Jews in the world than stars in the sky. God promised Abraham. So by spreading the Zohar, you shine the light. The truth will come out. So you must, it's a precondition to bring Messiah. It's either going to happen, you go the full 6,000 years, and then we'll get to Zohar through suffering, or we can do it now by proactively sharing it. And, and it says, "Now is the time. Now is the time." Uh, I, I have to go to my site, BillyPhillips.com. There's so many free lectures there that will explain, go on, why everything changed in 2020. It's in the Zohar, 5780 in the Hebrew calendar year. Will be a massive infusion of energy. And what happened? COVID, Trump lost the election, the world became polarized. We're in it. And, yeah. So, so women, Gentiles can all access to Zohar. What they can't have the light of God? No, women, you can't have the light of God. No, Gentiles, you have the light of God. That's what we came to do. Be a light unto all nations. Be a light. Spread the Zohar. More important than spreading it, or just as important, live it. Every time a Jew resists his ego a little bit, he's nourishing the whole world. It may feel like hell in the moment. Look, I'm in Kabbalah 30 plus years. I hate resisting my ego. Shutting up when I want to speak. I hate it, especially when you're right. But I go, "Okay, I'm changing the world. Getting light." And I say to my wife all the time, "I get, I get a moment of doubt. If I, who saw so many miracles, and have all, still the same hard time with my ego, there's no chance for the rest of the world." They don't, you know, that's also Satan because they don't have to do what I did. And I have to do. I don't have to do what my teacher did. We all have our own unique relationship. And it's all relative. So a person who's far from Torah does a little bit, that brings more light than someone who's close to Torah and just does a good deed. It's about character arc, transformation. This is the most important thing. I said, of everything, we are equally important and impactful on the world as everybody else. A great Tzadik who's born a Tzadik, lives a Tzadik, and dies there's no arc of transformation. That's where the Baal Shem Tov brought the thieves and the scoundrels close, because those who are far, they change a little, they reveal more light than the great Tzadik. You have to know how the world works. So what character change? So good, Billy. Okay, are we good? Are we done? Is your last question? Because I gotta run. Yeah, thank you for this time. I just wanted to ask you, what, how would you articulate your, Billy Phillips, soul's purpose? Oh, simple. My teacher told me, "If you teach, even if you reached a million people, wow, wow, not enough." Don't teach. Entertain. Build projects that convey the wisdom and essence and teachings of the Zohar in entertainment projects. You can reach half a billion people. People. He says, H, H, uh, his teacher, Rabbi Yehuda Ashlag, told the Rebbe, "If they can use slick, brilliant, clever marketing for lies, they'll never be ashamed to do it for the truth." So part of my work is to bring the secrets that unite Jesus with Zohar through entertainment projects. Bring the secrets of Zohar, how the world works, what happened in history, and how to live our life through the entertainment, through, through entertainment. Unified Gula. Own says when science and Kabbalah are are reconciled in the world, that is also a prerequisite for bringing Messiah. He says, V'Nagon. And I lectured at NASA on two occasions, at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, and at the Goddard Space Flight Center, bringing the wisdom, the teachings of the Rebbe and the Zohar, that unify science and Zohar. And we're going to incorporate that into entertainment projects. Amazing. Cool, hip entertainment projects, kids, young adults, adults, for all markets, all demographics. So, yeah, so that's what, that's what I came to do. Those two topics, science and Kabbalah, Jesus and Kabbalah, and, and the history. And are you a filmmaker? Is that what you do by profession? I'd say now more of a writer and executive producer. And we're building this new technology to bring it to the masses. We can go straight to the consumer. And we, we have a project. I'll, I'll mention to you probably the next two, three weeks. We've been on it for a couple of years. Insane series for kids. We're excited because my com, our my company just, okay, I'll mention it. We're taking on Disney. I was fortunate. It was the light. It was the light to get trademarks and copyrights for Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, all the iconic characters of history, um, that have generated billions of dollars throughout the last 150 years. Um, we've done these amazing reimaginings of the characters to empower kids and adults and bring back the wholesomeness and ideas into these characters. So, and we target both kids and adults. They're really cool stuff. But we have one series coming up which is amazing, which is all about to show kids. I'll give you, I'll, I'll pitch it just quickly. How many times we know something's bad for us, we do it anyway? And how many times we know something's good for us, and that second voice comes in our mind and says, "Don't do it. Do it next Monday." Right? Where does that voice come from? That's the first thing that grabs people in Kabbalah. When you first start Kabbalah, that's the question we ask. There's an opponent inside of us that we don't know exists, and he sabotages us. So if we can, and that's for free will purposes. So we did a, we produced a series called Robo Stars, Robo Cinderella, Robo Snow White, Robo Tinkerbell, Robo Peter Pan, that are robots that are created perfectly programmed, perfection, happiness in a world that's perfectly programmed and blissful. And there's a hacker named Hackleberry Finn. It's all based on the iconic characters. And he hacks into their circuits. And he's the voice of the Satan. And the kids who sabotages their lives, making them be naughty and jealous and angry. And he's the enemy. And they don't know he exists. And so it's a fun cartoon animated series where this perfect world of perfect robots, like us, created perfect. But we said, "No, we want to play against this. We want to earn our perfection." That's we learned in the Zohar. We, why are we in this world? We're in this world to earn what we are, what, what God gave us for free. Because we inherited the DNA of God. When you give birth to kids, they inherit your DNA. When God created us, we, we, we inherited his DNA. What's God's DNA? To be the cause of everything. We want to be the cause. We don't want a free lunch. So we're in this world to become the cause. Every time you beat Satan, you're the cause of your fulfillment. Because now the light comes in. That's it. It's called removing bread of shame. So we're producing an animated series that teaches kids, I'm not to listen to that second voice. Oh, wow. The second voice that tells you to judge the other person. So if Cinderella and Peter Pan are in a fight, kids are going to see, "Ha, it's really Hackleberry behind the scenes programming both of them." But it'll be fun and entertaining. No teaching, no preaching, entertaining. And they'll see there's another voice. It's so brilliant, Billy. It's so brilliant. I'll tell you, because we've been, the kids have been programmed by the dark side for, who knows how long. And this will reverse all, using their same technology. We're gonna flip the script. Exactly. So that's what the Rebbe told me to do. Entertain. So that's what we're doing. You're very entertaining. Yeah. And, uh, and that's why I do, you know, colle, you know, you invited me on. This isn't about a course or teaching. It's just about sharing. So this also falls into the category of, you know, it is to teach. I'm here just to share and enlighten. Um, and you're clear. You're very, very, when you teach, there's such a clarity about you. And there's, there's an aura about you. And you're very real. And you're just like the perfect guy for the job. And I appreciate you so much. Thank you. And I appreciate everything you do. And, uh, I noticed right away, like, it was amazing to see you get it. You get it. So it inspires me and gives me hope. You taught it to me. You clicked on so many things for me. And I'm, I'm really, I'm eternally grateful. Thank you. Appreciate that. And vice versa. Like I said, it gives me hope when I see people, you know, because we all need each other. Yeah. We all need each other. All need each other. Yeah. There's no savior. Collectively, we save ourselves. 100%. Yeah. Thank you, Billy. Okay. Have a great afternoon. You too. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.